[12:29] bluesabre: how long do you think we should wait re the lock issue before reminding r_a he was going to take a look? [12:56] flocculant, I think its safe to remind now [12:56] gotta run, bbl [14:19] bluesabre: I'll try and remember this evening when he's around then [14:35] akxwi-dave: iso boot to desktop thing has now been seen in gnome and budgie - with a couple of bug reports - ours is now a dupe - but one is marked high importance at least [14:39] Yup cheers saw the emails come in wonder if my little post in ubuntu-dev helped? [14:40] perhaps - don't idle there :p [14:41] * flocculant wanders of to logs [14:42] entirely possible :D [14:49] * flocculant bores himself stupid installing 'flavours' to test lock there [14:49] lol have fun sir.. [14:52] * flocculant really should work out how to do that in qemu ... [15:23] \o/ [15:26] wxl: you're affected by bug 1656399 [15:26] bug 1656399 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Unable to unlock Xubuntu XFCE session after suspend." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1656399 [15:37] also seems I made a mistake when checking old versions of lightdm - one I said works doesn't [15:39] which makes it appear to be pitti's change in November [19:05] flocculant: hey, what's the state of the locking issue in a nutshell? is it lightdm now, or is it us? or pitti? or transitioning to systemd again? [19:06] ochosi I think it's lightdm [19:06] at least if I revert to an older lightdm then locking works [19:07] confirmed the same behaviour in lubuntu earlier today [19:07] humm right [19:07] ochosi: and light-locker is at same version as it is in yakkety [19:07] any reaction so far from robert on this issue? [19:08] only that he wanted a lightdm.log [19:08] yeah, light-locker is not really actively maintained these days, so i'm not surprised it's the same version ;) [19:08] but then I've not been hounding him either [19:08] right, i guess he would be the right person to go with [19:08] hence pinging Sean about that earlier [19:08] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/lightdm/lightdm_1.21.1-0ubuntu2/changelog [19:09] if you can provide the lightdm.log and follow through with him if he needs more that'd be awesome [19:09] is when it fails [19:09] ochosi: yea - he has that on the bug - 5 minutes after he asked :) [19:09] :) [19:09] nice work [19:10] expecting him to show up soonish in -desktop - I will ping him there and nudge a bit :D [19:11] we should sue the same lock as Ubuntu - then if it fails it's easier lol [19:11] sue/use [19:13] ochosi: just a quick one - which package would this bug need to be against on xfce bugs? I'll report (or find existing) upstream to link against bug 1658772 [19:13] bug 1658772 in thunar (Ubuntu) "xubuntu, thunar, desktop background" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1658772 [19:14] someone I don't know about using zesty xubuntu :) [19:14] biab [20:17] ochosi: pinged him in -desktop [20:23] flocculant: that works for me (re: xfdesktop) [20:23] it's not recursive [20:23] so it doesn't loop over all subdirs [20:23] but it works as expected [20:24] ochosi: odd why it is different in yak [20:24] i don't think it is [20:24] the xfdesktop version should be exactly the same [20:25] well - it looks different - I see zesty as the reported screenie and yak as the one I linked [20:25] definitely different [20:26] ochosi: if you've 5 could you pop by -desktop? [20:26] re the lock thing - I can't answer a question :D [20:29] ochosi: basically I can't answer " do you think light-locker hasn't completed all its actions before it's killed?" [20:29] hmm, the xfdesktop thing doesn't make sense to me, so the open file dialog has the right side disabled and you can't click anything? [20:30] ochosi: yea [20:31] and if, for instance, I had pics in /home/pics - I can't pick it - BUT if I had /home/pics in thunars sidepane then I can [20:31] sry, gotta run [20:31] bbia [20:31] b [20:31] yep - cya [21:09] flocculant: so maybe a good idea (following up on robert's comment): test with a different greeter (e.g. unity-greeter or something) and see whether it's actually a greeter problem (i.e. the greeter crashing or something [21:10] ochosi: just saw that - was just installing it :p [21:10] awesome :) [21:10] omg [21:11] ? [21:11] can you think of a greeter which doesn't install the world with it ... [21:11] unity-g isn't much better than the kde one lol [21:12] hm, there used to be some html greeter [21:12] but tbh ours was always the lightest [21:12] so even with --no-install-recommends? [21:12] i thought then unity-greeter isn't that bad.. [21:12] 99 to newly install [21:13] :/ [21:13] no install recommends is better :D [21:14] ok couple of reboots coming up [21:24] ok cool [21:25] flocculant, re: requirements, check mailing list :) [21:27] ochosi: first things first - unity greeter fails to start session [21:27] secondly why do I do this to myself :( [21:27] flocculant, slightly masochistic? [21:27] forgot removing our greeter took out default settings - which left me with an xfce session [21:28] now I've got rebuild my desktop and shortcuts ... [21:28] I have so many vm's I could test in first ... [21:28] knome: slightly idiotic more like :p [21:29] :P [21:29] close, close [21:29] omg lots of words in that mail :p [21:30] oh, sry to hear [21:31] ochosi: anyway - in a short while I'll test unity-greeter with recommends [21:31] see what that does [21:31] just want to get the desktop set again :) [21:33] :) [21:40] ochosi: ok - installing in a vm now :p [21:41] sigh [21:42] I'd set some low time to test lock earlier - now it's locked half way through installing ... [21:45] ochosi: nope - no go with unity-greeter 'Failed to start session' [21:45] that's odd, but add that to the bug report [21:45] maybe it helps robert somehow... [21:45] yup [21:47] ochosi: he wants greeter log - any clue where that is? [21:48] sure flocculant [21:48] if you want me to review anything, ping me please [21:48] oh - yea - that's dealt with now - thanks anyway :) [21:48] :) [21:49] I was a bit 0_0 there ... [21:49] lol [21:50] ochosi: I assume he means the one in /var/log/lightdm *shrug* [21:51] biab after I force reboot following failed lock ... [22:08] team has mail re: t-shirts [22:10] now I just need to work out why keyboard shortcuts aren't working :( [22:10] minor! :) [22:11] says you ... [22:11] :p [22:11] i was joking [22:11] :P [22:11] now I shall get back to my Starter for 10 mail in reply [22:11] yea I know :) [22:18] flocculant: thanks for following up [22:18] ochosi: no problem :) [22:48] knome: just a very quick one - have we thought much about a first boot screen like mate/budgie ever? [22:48] spent a boring hour this afternoon installing 'flavours' to test lock - the budgie one intrigued me a bit [22:49] there has been talk about OEM stuff, i don't know about that kind of thing though [22:49] s/have we thought much in the past about [22:49] it's a bit intertwined, so should be discussed all at once [22:49] not so sure about that [22:50] i'm all for that if there's need/willingness to do something like that and the technology is "ready out there" [22:51] I'll just grab a screenshot of the budgie one [22:51] poke bluesabre ^ [22:52] http://i.imgur.com/vEXq7dL.png [22:52] right... [22:52] some of the options have quite a lot of text [22:53] yes, and this is quite the information overload [22:53] the choice there being 'buttons' [22:53] we kind of do the sameish with the slideshow [22:53] well kind of [22:53] anyway - was just a thought come question [22:54] now though I am going to do like zebedee and split :) [22:54] night peeps [22:54] nighty