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[00:36] <valorie> clivejo: back to work on the docs, looking at your work
[00:36] <valorie> I notice you link so some of our old packaging doc pages such as https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI/QMLIgnore
[00:37] <valorie> is the plan to move such pages to the new wiki, and get rid of those old pages?
[00:39] <clivejo> I didnt link any old docs
[00:39] <clivejo> I want to check everything before adding it
[00:41] <valorie> yes, you linked that page above on https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/kci/
[00:41] <clivejo> the plan is to have up to date docs that can be kept up to date, without fighting with looping log on pages and flaff
[00:41] <valorie> right, but to do that we'll be getting *all* development documentation into Phab
[00:41] <valorie> correct?
[00:42] <clivejo> last edit was Rik
[00:42] <valorie> ok
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[00:42] <clivejo> most of us have lots of notes we took when we learned
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[00:43] <valorie> right, I just want us to be on the same page, moving towards the same goal
[00:43] <valorie> so far it's looking good
[00:44] <valorie> did you see this? https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/remarkup/
[00:44] <clivejo> yes
[00:44] <valorie> acheronuk, tsimonq2, himcesjf
[00:44] <valorie> cool
[00:44] <valorie> I'm liking it
[00:44] <clivejo> me too
[00:44] <clivejo> I made a table - https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/status/
[00:45] <tsimonq2> Can't look at it, phone is busy and I'm on tty2 >__<
[00:45] <valorie> good call on getting us moving on it, clivejo
[00:45] <valorie> oooo, fancy!
[00:46] <clivejo> always wanted something to see at a glance what is where!
[00:46] <valorie> that's handy
[00:46] <tsimonq2> Good idea
[00:47] <tsimonq2> We needed something like this ages ago...
[00:47] <clivejo> The topic can be confusing at times
[00:47] <valorie> yes
[00:47] <tsimonq2> Let's just remove that stuff from the topic then and just have that link there
[00:47] <clivejo> not yet
[00:48] <clivejo> as we are still finding our feet
[00:48] <valorie> I use the info in the topic
[00:48] <valorie> and don't want to have to click elsewhere when I'm answering questions in IRC
[00:48] <valorie> I have to click elsewhere often enough as it is
[00:53] <clivejo> shame Ubuntu/LP doesnt have Phab
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[00:54] <valorie> after using the Ubuntu wiki, then the Phab wiki -- night and day
[00:54] <valorie> LP does have many cool features
[00:55] <clivejo> ok, bed time for me
[00:55] <clivejo> night all
[00:55] <tsimonq2> Sleep tight clivejo 
[00:55] <DarinMiller> night clivejo
[00:55] <valorie> but since there is no devel work on it, it's showing age
[00:55] <valorie> niters
[00:55] <tsimonq2> Don't let the bed bugs bite
[00:55] <valorie> sweet dreams
[00:56] <clivejo> tsimonq2: can you help wxl with https://phabricator.kde.org/T5119
[00:57] <clivejo> There is a LP bug for it somewhere
[00:58] <tsimonq2> When I get my install working again... >__<
[00:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: What's left to do?
[01:00] <valorie> oooo, wxl, now that GCi is over: what remains to be done for Alpha 2?
[01:00] <valorie> anything I can help with?
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[01:13] <wxl> valorie: if release notes are all fixed up, we're good
[01:13] <tsimonq2> yeeeee
[01:13] <wxl> tsimonq2: go test it in yakkety and leave a note on the bug
[01:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: I would if I had a working computer, bud
[01:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: What bug?
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 Wxl: just finish it up. Its a bugfix release
[01:23] <wxl> you're the boss. :)
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[01:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: What. Do. You. Need. Help. With. To. Get. Konversation. SRUed?
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[01:27] <wxl> tsimonq2: well i just got the ok to move forward, so should be nothing.
[01:28] <tsimonq2> kthxbai
 Also try and backport it for xx  if you can
[01:31] <tsimonq2> s/xx/Xenial/
 Test from your own ppa
[01:31] <tsimonq2> If that's what you're talking about, wxl, what do you think?
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[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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[12:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:32] <soee> o/
[12:44] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[13:00] <acheronuk> clivejo: yes, I added those KCI links. mostly just as a placeholder as I think much of that info needs to go on the wiki. probably consolidated and or redone into phab pages
[13:58] <shadeslayer> clivejo: I never did that upload did I
[13:59] <clivejo> shadeslayer: nope :P
[13:59] <shadeslayer> I'm so sorry
[13:59] <shadeslayer> let me get to it now
[13:59] <clivejo> I know you are busy, so didnt want to pressure you
[13:59] <shadeslayer> clivejo: I gave you a deadline so if I don't meet it, please let me know :
[13:59] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:59] <shadeslayer> because i took yesterday off
[14:00] <clivejo> well deserved day off?
[14:01] <clivejo> shadeslayer: will you be able to make it to acheronuk's devel meeting?
[14:01] <shadeslayer> is it today?
[14:01] <clivejo> not confirmed yet
[14:01] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: doodle in an email to -devel mailing list
[14:02] <acheronuk> 1st potential date is nearly 2 weeks away
[14:04] <clivejo> http://doodle.com/poll/a3qe3nbtgxsxth2r
[14:04]  * acheronuk gave himself time to change his mind
[14:04] <clivejo> no changing minds!
[14:05] <acheronuk> lol
[14:06] <shadeslayer> clivejo: all uploaded
[14:07] <shadeslayer> sitter: ^^
[14:07] <shadeslayer> up for some grilling?
[14:07] <clivejo> :) thanks
[14:07] <shadeslayer> clivejo: I'll take a look at it later this evening
[14:08] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: no huge hurry, but would be great if you can make it
[14:11] <clivejo> now the rela fun starts!
[14:11] <acheronuk> it does?
[14:11] <clivejo> new sources
[14:11] <clivejo> release team fun
[14:12] <clivejo> there are new binarys still in the queue from last week :(
[14:13] <shadeslayer> clivejo: please poke someone in #ubuntu-release
[14:13] <clivejo> I find it more productive to beat my head on a brick wall
[14:14] <clivejo> I feel I make more progress this way
[14:15] <acheronuk> do the old sources need removing? if the new ones are the result of a split of an old one?
[14:16] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:16] <shadeslayer> clivejo: let me poke someone then
[14:17] <clivejo> yes please Master Rohan of the Universe
[14:39] <clivejo> shadeslayer: do you ping someone off the channel?
[14:40] <shadeslayer> no
[14:40] <shadeslayer> I was trying to lookup what archive admins we have
[14:40] <shadeslayer> and then got distracted
[14:47] <blaze> clivejo: https://phabricator.kde.org/T4783#76342
 acheronuk ping
 my schedule is very chaotic, I'd love to participate at your developer grilling, but I'm not sure of my schedule, so I can't give times when I'm available
 most likely, I'll even miss your reply here
 I'll watch the email for your decided date, and set an entry in my calendar
 if I can, I'll be there
 not that my presence is actually necessary
 but any way, you have my full support
 @ovidiuflorin, Thank you :) It would be nice for people to be there, but as you say not essential. However, your support is noted and appreciated, whether you are able to make it or not.
[19:09] <acheronuk> clivejo: ping
[19:09] <clivejo> pong
[19:10] <clivejo> whats up?
[19:10] <acheronuk> nother fix for a test I hope
[19:10] <acheronuk> *another
[19:11] <clivejo> on shiny?
[19:11] <acheronuk> yep
[19:11] <acheronuk> ~/upload/audiocd-kio/
[19:11] <acheronuk> in there
[19:11] <acheronuk> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/audiocd-kio/commit/?h=kubuntu_zesty_archive&id=817e7863422a24afd5cacbf3c06bdbb47609bb66
[19:12] <clivejo> done
[19:12] <acheronuk> :)
[19:13] <acheronuk> clivejo: could be that those tests fail the first time, and will need a re-run with all-proposed. but we shall see
[19:14] <clivejo> they pass locally?
[19:15] <acheronuk> amd64 does with all-proposed. others arches I have not sorted out easily testing with yet
[19:17] <clivejo> do you think its possible to setup that elastic hosts system to do the autotests
[19:18] <acheronuk> probably. I can now do this more or less locally, but not sure I would know where to start with anything automated somewhere remote
[19:22] <clivejo> might as well try :)
[19:42] <acheronuk> ooooh https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtspeech-opensource-src/5.8.0-1
[19:42] <acheronuk> well, I knew that was on the way, but :)
[19:43] <clivejo> ooooo
[19:43] <clivejo> what does it do?
 clivejo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[19:53] <clivejo> ?!?!?
 primul e făcut
 al doilea... nu știu dacă e o idee bună
[19:54] <clivejo> english please
 oh...
 wrong channel
[19:55] <clivejo> !english
 clivejo I miss you
[19:55] <clivejo> have I been somewhere?!?
 I don't know
 I just haven't seen you or talked to you in a while
 so I miss you
 and I also miss Aaron
 @ahoneybun ^
[19:57] <clivejo> awww bless
 I can say that I did the initial packaging for QtSpeech in Debian
 Necesitas hablar
 What happened?
 @ovidiuflorin
[21:10] <acheronuk> clivejo: looks like we may want a new KF5 version of k3b for zesty and lose audex (KDE4) from the archive
[21:13] <acheronuk> otherwise libcompactdisc and libkcddb and audiocd are not likely to migrate
[21:13] <acheronuk> *audiocd-kio
[21:14] <clivejo> has it been ported?
[21:15] <acheronuk> there is some other old KDE4 stuff that might want to go. we should do a bit of a review fairly soon
[21:15] <wxl> man alpha 2 is going to suck if we don't get some images soon
[21:16] <sintre> what everybody having to wait around to get to packaging?
[21:16] <acheronuk> clivejo: the master branch seems to be KF5, but I can't see any releases on a quick scan
[21:17] <acheronuk> wxl: when are they normally spun?
[21:17] <clivejo> we dont have it on KCI
[21:17] <wxl> acheronuk: release is almost always thursday and images come out usually two days before (i.e. tuesday). they're usually here before i even get to work. which is to say it's really late.
[21:18] <acheronuk> wxl: our daily did not build today - issue with a weird apt bug, appstream and plasma-discover
[21:18] <acheronuk> wxl: I have only just this min read the discussion in #ubuntu-devel
[21:19] <wxl> that's weird they tried to build at all, though, acheronuk. usually they turn off dailies during milestone testing
[21:19] <wxl> harumph, i guess i should subscribe to ubuntu-devel
[21:19] <wxl> oh
[21:19] <wxl> not mailing list. :)
[21:19] <acheronuk> wxl: nope. the IRC
[21:28] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/k3b
[21:28] <clivejo> not been updated in a while :/
 My computer is pretty much fixed
[21:31] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+changelog
[21:31] <acheronuk> mostly debian merges and a few random fixes since then
[21:32] <acheronuk> Neon have no KF5
[21:33] <clivejo> where is the debian packaging?
[21:33] <acheronuk> aha. https://cgit.kde.org/k3b.git/commit/?id=e0da90a0f2d26456b89b17e65d70f1d5b42dff71
[21:34] <clivejo> hummm
[21:35] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-kde/kde-extras/k3b/trunk/
[21:38] <acheronuk> clivejo: get it building in KCI, and see if it's feasible to do a pre-release preview version for zesty?
[21:39] <clivejo> do you know how to move bzr to git?
[21:40] <acheronuk> I've done it one, but not sure if I can recall. the way written on the LP help page didn't work when I tried that
[21:40] <acheronuk> *done it once
[21:49] <clivejo> hummmmm
[21:49] <clivejo> cant find my notes
[21:54] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://code.launchpad.net/~rikmills/kubuntu-packaging/+git/k3b
[22:00] <clivejo> can you push that to our LP
[22:00] <clivejo> and merge with Debian again?
[22:01] <acheronuk> clivejo: can do
[22:02] <clivejo> thanks
[22:02] <acheronuk> oh, debian is not on git is it
[22:03] <clivejo> nope
[22:03] <clivejo> bit of a faff
[22:05] <acheronuk> clivejo: in our archive we have 2.0.3-0ubuntu5 and debian has in unstable 2.0.3a-2
[22:06] <clivejo> http://download.kde.org/stable/k3b/
[22:06] <clivejo> seems there was a respin
[22:07] <clivejo> weird
[22:07] <clivejo> hashs are the same
[22:07] <acheronuk> md5s are the same
[22:07] <acheronuk> clivejo: so make a zesty_archive branch that is synced with current zesty before merging anything else?
[22:08] <clivejo> yup
[22:08] <clivejo> you done that before?
[22:08] <acheronuk> then we have that safe and up to date as a stating point
[22:10] <acheronuk> clivejo: how would you do that? grab the source for each new version copy the changes, and commit each? or just grab the current and do in one syncing commit?
[22:11] <clivejo> download the debian folder as a tar
[22:11] <clivejo> create the zesty_archive branch
[22:12] <clivejo> rm -r debian in that branch
[22:12] <clivejo> and untar into it
[22:12] <acheronuk> yep, that is what I was saying. 
[22:13] <acheronuk> what I meant is do in one big jump, or in stages for the intervening ubuntu versions. I guess here in one go
[22:14] <clivejo> you could create zesty as a brand new branch
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[22:20] <acheronuk> clivejo: ok. have a zesty archive branch with the current packaging from that in it
[22:23] <clivejo> :)
[22:24] <clivejo> merge the two and create unstable :)
[22:25] <acheronuk> what 2?
[22:25] <clivejo> debian and archive
[22:29] <acheronuk> I don't have debian
[22:38] <acheronuk> so kubuntu_unstable is currently the same as zesty archive
[22:38] <acheronuk> clivejo: ^^
[22:40] <clivejo> cool
[22:40] <clivejo> wanna add it to KCI?
[22:40] <acheronuk> we can do that and watch it fail to build miserable :)
[22:41] <clivejo> needs fixing!
[22:41] <acheronuk> then fix :)
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[22:52] <clivejo> LOL
[22:52] <clivejo> funny that!
[22:52] <acheronuk> wow. surprise!
[22:53] <clivejo> it didnt even try 
[22:53] <acheronuk> patches failed
[22:53] <acheronuk> so never even go a source built
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[22:57] <clivejo> and failed again!
[22:57] <clivejo> fix it!!
[22:58] <acheronuk> for some reason that makes me think of bob the builder
[23:03] <acheronuk> https://phabricator.kde.org/T5175
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[23:15] <clivejo> acheronuk: rm this file https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/k3b/tree/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[23:15] <acheronuk> clivejo: I just was
[23:16] <clivejo> :)
[23:20] <acheronuk> clivejo: not going to claim that task as I guess a few of us are likely to want to work on that.
[23:20] <clivejo> claim it if you want
[23:20] <clivejo> you doing most of the work :)
[23:20] <valorie> I hope so! would be lovely to see k3b join the new kf5 world
[23:21] <acheronuk> you planning to do any tonight? I can get on with it tomorrow PM I expect
[23:21] <acheronuk> valorie: it will :)
[23:21] <clivejo> nope, got a headache and heading to bed soon
[23:21] <valorie> did you guys notice blaze's link earlier?
[23:21] <valorie> to a fixed ubiquity, courtesy of neon
[23:22] <valorie> well, courtesy of sitter and Riddell
[23:22] <clivejo> yes I seen it
[23:23] <valorie> kewl
[23:23] <clivejo> but we have noone on the team with access to change it 
[23:23] <valorie> ah
[23:24] <valorie> need a core dev or so?
[23:24] <clivejo> from what I remember there is a special lincence agreement
[23:25] <clivejo> so legally I dont think it can be used
[23:26] <valorie> to what?
[23:27] <valorie> ubiquity?
[23:27] <acheronuk> clivejo: Architecture 	Builders 	Queue
[23:27] <acheronuk> amd64 	61 	475 jobs (2 hours) 
[23:27] <valorie> oh, perhaps one has to sign their CLA to work on it
[23:27] <acheronuk> so not much point pushing changes to KCI tonight anyway
[23:27] <valorie> which is evil
[23:27] <clivejo> For contributions to Ubiquity, Canonical requires copyright assignment. In exchange for assigning copyright to Canonical, you will receive a broad license in return, which will allow you to retain full rights to re-use, distribute, and continue modifying your contributed code. Please ensure you have agreed to the copyright assignment by following the steps outlined at the address below before proposing your contribution for inclusion into 
[23:27] <clivejo> ubiquity trunk. We do not want this to get in the way of your contributions, so please contact Evan if you have any questions about this process.
[23:28] <valorie> yeah
[23:28] <valorie> sucks
[23:29] <clivejo> however the Calamares work is interesting
[23:29] <valorie> at least they did fix it somewhat, "to retain full rights to re-use, distribute, and continue modifying your contributed code" after everyone raised bloody hell about it
[23:29] <valorie> but still
[23:29] <valorie> yep
[23:30] <valorie> I guess it is working so far in neon
[23:31] <clivejo> and given the friction regarding copyright in the past, I doubt its doable
[23:32] <valorie> right
[23:36] <clivejo> acheronuk: maybe pause KCI?
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 HEY, I signed the Canonical CLA, what do I need to write?
[23:37] <clivejo> can you legally sign it?
 Yep, talked to Canonical lawyers and my dad signed a paper
 I signed it
[23:37] <clivejo> oh ok
[23:38] <valorie> not sure that's enough, given that sitter did the work, but you can look at https://phabricator.kde.org/T4783#76342
[23:39] <clivejo> sitter may have signed it in the past
 Why would anyone sign the CLA?
 Oh, already written, can't help there
 @ahoneybun, It's reasonable to me
 Mm I think it's very crap
 Then again I don't write code so
 What about it?
 Well it basically gives up your right to the code later no?
 At least that's what it sounds like from yofel
 Read it.
 Don't complain about it if you haven't read it...
[23:43] <clivejo> a lot of people in free and open source software dont like when someone tries to take those rights away
[23:44] <valorie> to be fair, it did what Aaron says, at first
[23:44] <clivejo> if you want to sign it, fine, thats your call
[23:44] <Darkwing> Wow, it's been a while.
[23:44] <valorie> now they have changed it
 Holy crap
 Darkwing
[23:44] <valorie> still, you assign copyright or don't work on the code
[23:44] <clivejo> valorie: yes, its that silly
[23:44] <valorie> in KDE, you assign copyright to the e.V. if you want to
[23:44] <clivejo> simple
 The clause people are concerned about is that Canonical can take your code closed source whenever they want.
 They've never done it and they don't plan on it, so they're covering their butts. I'm fine with it, others not.
[23:46] <clivejo> why have it then?
 Because they're covering their asses for technicalities.
[23:48] <clivejo> fair enough, but in this case, sitter wrote the code and owns the copyright, so it cant be used
 Yep
 His choice, our inconvenience
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[23:57] <wxl> @tsimonq2: where's alpha2???
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