[05:30] <Roey> .tell
[06:33] <hateball> Another day, another missing panel
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
 Hi
 I've been facing hard times w/ kubuntu on Xenial.  Often coredumps and random crashes.
 I would like to revert to kde4.
 I tried to find it on launchpad, but no clue.  Is there a repository for kde only packages or I do need to add trusty repository at all?
[09:59] <acheronuk> Trusty 14.04 is still KDE 4, and is available until 2019
 Yap.  I got it.
[10:00] <acheronuk> you can DL the iso for that still
 I'm rebuilding for Xenial in Launchpad.
[10:07] <acheronuk> tell us how that goes
 The drop of Xprotocol support on systray made it too difficult to use right now.
 I can't get pidgin, keepassx and other gtk based applications to work properly.
 kdebase is done.
 https://launchpad.net/~helioloureiro/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
 humm... actually failed
[10:18] <acheronuk> I once tried to build the KDE desktop stuff for wily, and ran into too many issues. I imagine Xenial would have even more
 It is package dependency issues.
 However built it, had missing libs in its own system.  So didn't notice the missing ones in requirement.
 I found such errors in my packages as well after I push.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:32] <assmith> I'm trying to setup a network bridge.
[13:32] <assmith> What determines the hwaddr of the bridge?
[13:33] <assmith> and can I change it to use a different interface?
[13:43] <lordievader> assmith: The parent of the bridge.
[15:20] <TBotNik> All: Is there a good channel for MySQL help?
[15:25] <lordievader> TBotNik: There is probably some mysql channel, go ask alis.
[15:25] <lordievader> !alis
[15:26] <TBotNik> Thnx!
[17:30] <krise> Hi. Im geting  following error when tryng to make dist-upgrade https://paste.kde.org/puyj8mwj3   . What couses this problem ?
[17:55] <krise> and i get this error when running some update action https://paste.kde.org/puojcsoea
[18:05] <Dragnslcr> krise- for the first one, did you run the command it suggested?
[18:05] <Dragnslcr> For the second one, run: ls -al /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/arial32.exe
[18:05] <Dragnslcr> Check the owner and permissions
[18:21] <krytarik> krise: For the second one, LP bug 1607535.
[18:23] <krise> when running apt-get -f install ,  i get this https://paste.kde.org/pstpv78g5
[18:25] <Dragnslcr> Make sure there aren't any other programs that use apt running
[18:25] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix
[18:26] <Dragnslcr> If there aren't, try that command
[19:07] <cfaulk40> evening :)  Can anyone help me? I've just started my old machine up, still running vivid vervet, and i'm getting told I can upgrade to something called xenial
[19:08] <vivid> vivid is end of life
[19:08] <cfaulk40> When I try, it's not working, apparently do-release-upgrade doesn't support upgrading vivid to xenial.
[19:08] <cfaulk40> I know, it told me my release isn't supported anymore
[19:08] <cfaulk40> how do I get up to xenial to bring the machine up to date?
[19:10] <krytarik> !eolupgrade | cfaulk40
[19:10] <cfaulk40> brilliant, thank you :)
[19:10] <krytarik> Sure.
[19:55] <Krise> HI . IM booting into some initramfs
[19:55] <Krise> I dont know what to doo
[19:55] <Krise> Please help
[19:57] <genii> Krise: Was it booting before?
[19:57] <Krise> Yes
[19:57] <Krise> Before i messed up something
[19:58] <genii> ...presumably with GRUB ?
[19:58] <genii> Krise: Do you have a livecd/usb around that you can boot to?
[20:00] <Krise> I dont know. I tried to boot from live usb but it didnt load from it and then i messed up something
[20:01] <Krise> I have live usb
[20:32] <Krise> Laptop wont boot from usb . How to fix it
[20:34] <BluesKaj> Krise, do you have uefi/bios set to boot from usb
[20:35] <Krise> Yes uefi
[20:36] <BluesKaj> Krise, what app did you use to create the iso the USB?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> on the USB
[20:37] <Krise> I dont know that
[20:38] <Krise> And i cant check that because im boot into some initramfs
[20:38] <BluesKaj> which software did you use to create a bootable image on the USB , or did you just copy it
[20:38] <Krise> DiscCreator
[20:39] <Krise> That comes with kubuntu
[20:39] <BluesKaj> I suggest you try again ..something went wrong
[20:40] <sintre> ok , heres the thing if you can get to live session
[20:40] <sintre> use kde partition masnager
[20:40] <sintre> and make sure the live usb is formated to msdos before
[20:40] <Krise> I tried many times. IM tryng to change boot priority list in bios but nothing
[20:40] <sintre> you use disc creator
[20:41] <sintre> and also what is your firmare , bios or efi/uefi
[20:41] <Krise> I have big black screen fher initramfs is blinking
[20:42] <sintre> so the usb won't even go to a live session?
[20:42] <sintre> do you have two computers?
[20:42] <sintre> i assume so atm
[20:42] <Krise> Im using tablet at the moment
[20:42] <sintre> and what os is the tablet
[20:43] <Krise> Android
[20:43] <sintre> any acess to another computer
[20:43] <Krise> Nope
[20:44] <sintre> so is your other system completely unusable atm
[20:44] <sintre> do you have any live cd of a linux distro of nykind that works?
[20:45] <Krise> I can use only bios
[20:45] <sintre> thats fine
[20:45] <Krise> I have only live usb
[20:45] <sintre> does the live usb work?
[20:45] <sintre> to get into a live session
[20:45] <Krise> I hope
[20:46] <sintre> well find out
[20:46] <Krise> But it wont boot from it
[20:46] <sintre> :)
[20:46] <sintre> ok well then its not working , so something happend in creation
[20:47] <Krise> Ok
[20:47] <sintre> either bad image or stick you were using could of had wrong file table
[20:47] <sintre> or even defective
[20:47] <sintre> i don't know android except for my phone
[20:48] <sintre> so couldn't tell you how to start to make a new one from there
[20:48] <Krise> Bu what this iñitramfs is
[20:48] <Krise> Before laptp worked and booted normaly
[20:49] <sintre> what os was the laptop running
[20:49] <Krise> Kubuntu 16.10
[20:49] <sintre> this could be a sign of hardware failure
[20:49] <BluesKaj> krise do you have a terminal app on your tablet?
[20:49] <sintre> if there was no action on your part that would of broken your install
[20:51] <BluesKaj> sintre, was thinking he could dd the iso to the usb formatted to fat32 on the tablet
[20:51] <sintre> i'm checking on andoird terminal now
[20:51] <sintre> i don't think there is an app as they don't want people rooting thier phones or tablets
[20:51] <Krise> Yes i have BluesKaj
[20:53] <sintre> then we can dd the image
[20:53] <sintre> hopefully
[20:54] <sintre> can you clean the stick and make sure the file table is ms/dos
[20:54] <sintre> with your tablet
[20:55] <Krise> Il try
[20:55] <BluesKaj> Krise, then i suggest you try dd ... format the usb to fat32 on the tablet , download a new kubuntu iso to the tablet , the in the terminal , dd if=pathtoiso of=/devsdX (USB) bs=4m
[20:56] <BluesKaj> dev/sdX
[20:57] <BluesKaj> anyway we''ll give a better command oncew we know what the device\ names
[20:57] <BluesKaj> 4m=4M ...another corrction :-)
[21:11] <Krise> Well i made new live usb disc on windows computer but it still wont boot
[21:11] <sintre> what program
[21:12] <sintre> https://unetbootin.github.io/  download this for windows
[21:12] <Krise> Lili usb creator
[21:12] <sintre> sinse you do have access to a windows computer
[21:12] <sintre> us the program on windows i linked to
[21:14] <BluesKaj> Krise,, suggest use rufus on windows
[21:14] <BluesKaj> but i have to go ....good luck , later
[21:27] <Krise> Still the same . Wont load from usb, starts loading system, i see kubuntu logo and then black like terminal screen comes on  and initramfs is blinking
[21:28] <sintre> have another usb stick
[21:28] <sintre> at this point its about elimating posabilities honestly
[21:29] <sintre> one thing i would also try if you have space and the time , is 16.04
[21:29] <Krise> Ok
[21:29] <Krise> Thanks
[21:29] <sintre> see if that if stable enough to get you to a live enviroment