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hikikohi05:52
TheMusoHey hikiko.05:53
hikikohi TheMuso05:54
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seb128good morning desktopers09:01
willcookemorning seb12809:01
willcookeHow are you feeling today?09:01
seb128hey willcooke! I had a good night, feeling less tired/feverish which is good09:01
seb128still having the cold annoyance, sneezing, etc09:01
seb128but it's already an improvement :-)09:02
willcooke:)09:02
Laneymorning09:03
seb128hey Laney, how are you?09:03
Laneyhey seb12809:03
Laneygood thanks!09:03
Laneyit got really foggy last night09:03
Laneywas cool09:03
Laneyhow about you?09:04
seb128cool like "can't find the road anymore so I'm biking in the middle of nowhere"? ;-)09:04
seb128I'm fine, had a good night sleep and I'm feeling a bit better today!09:05
flexiondotorgMorning seb128 Laney willcooke hikiko_09:05
seb128hey flexiondotorg09:05
willcookehey flexiondotorg09:05
flexiondotorgStepping out for a bit. Back in a hour...09:06
davmor2Morning all09:08
flexiondotorgdavmor2 o/09:12
TheMusoHey folks.09:13
willcookeevening TheMuso09:13
TheMusoseb128: Could you do me a favour? I've got MIRs filed for espeak-ng and pcaudiolib, bug 1656741 and bug 1656742 respecitvely. COuld you please add them to the desktop-packagers team for bug mail? We are transitioning away from espeak, which si no longer maintained.09:14
ubot5bug 1656741 in espeak-ng (Ubuntu) "[MIR] espeak-ng" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165674109:14
ubot5bug 1656742 in pcaudiolib (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pcaudiolib" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165674209:14
seb128hey TheMuso, done09:15
TheMusoseb128: Thank you.09:15
seb128yw!09:15
hikiko_morning all09:16
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Sweet5harkmorning all09:29
Sweet5harkseems we are a globally distributed sick room.09:30
hikiko:)09:30
Laneyhey Sweet5hark and hikiko09:30
Laneyhey davmor2 and flexiondotorg and TheMuso09:30
* Sweet5hark is still on antibiotics, but starting to feel better.09:30
LaneyI had a runny nose last week for a couple of days09:31
Laneybut then it got better instead of worse09:31
* Laney STRONG09:31
* Laney STOMPS YOU09:31
hikikohi Laney davmor2 flexiondotorg Sweet5hark seb128 willcooke flexiondotorg well +all09:31
hikikoI still have flu :p09:32
davmor2hikiko: :( get 100% soon09:32
hikikothanks :)09:32
davmor2Laney: How's life in the grim north?09:33
Laneydavmor2: I see blue skies, and I see ice09:36
Laneylooks nice :309:36
davmor2Laney: I see no ice, see how much grimmer it is up north ;)09:36
Laneynot grim09:38
Laneyit is a GREAT winter day09:38
TheMusoWe've just come out the back end of a scorcher here... Thankfull a southerly buster came through and the evening is a pleasant one.09:38
TheMusothankfully*09:38
LaneyTheMuso: I read soemthing about a record run of high temperature09:42
TheMusoLaney: That certainly may be the case in other parts of Aus.09:45
TheMusoLaney: We did have a record breaking overnight temperature a week or so back, 26 or so degrees C.09:46
TheMusoThats in Sydney.09:46
LaneyTheMuso: https://www.theguardian.com/weather/2017/jan/24/sydney-heatwave-expected-to-shatter-weather-record-set-before-federation <- that's the one I read09:47
TheMusoNo idea if we got there but I wouldn't be surprised if we did.09:50
TheMusoOh thats for today.09:51
TheMusoYeah well in my local area I think it got to about 36.09:51
TheMusoStill darn hot.09:51
LaneyYep yep yep09:53
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sil2100Trevinho: hey! I see your appmenu silo is ready for release since a while - I generally leave such no-packaging-changes silos to be released by the landers, you want me to press the button?10:59
Sweet5harkahh, libreoffice-l10n finally completed the build. now for keeping stuff afloat ...11:05
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willcookeding ding15:30
seb128hoi15:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-01-2415:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan 24 15:30:37 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:30
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:30
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Sweet5harkgrmbl,  something is fscked up about epoxy and i dont even know what that is.15:30
willcookeRoll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong (out), flexiondotorg (meeting), happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)15:30
qenghoAiee!15:30
Sweet5harko/15:30
hikikohello15:31
desrtyup15:31
andyrockhey15:31
willcooke1 more minute...15:32
hikiko:)15:32
willcookeoki, let's start15:33
willcooke#topic andyrock15:33
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andyrockhey15:33
andyrock#1. Proposed a branch for recording failing test on jenikins for unity815:33
andyrock#2. Worked a little bit for the a11y problem with compiz15:34
andyrock#3. Reviewing a comping branch15:34
andyrockeow15:34
willcookethanks andyrock, good stuff15:34
willcooke#topic attente15:34
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attentehey15:34
attenteapparmor dconf patch testing and review with desrt, meeting with security team to figure out missing requirements15:34
attentemir patch backporting from gtk4 to gtk3 to reduce the delt15:34
attentestarted debugging combo box problems in gtk-mir/miral-shell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/miral/+bug/165599715:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1655997 in MirAL "[gtk] Save as dialog: dropdown menu surface positioned wrong" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:34
attente(eof)15:35
willcookegreat! thanks to you and desrt for the work with the sec. team15:35
willcooke#topic desrt15:35
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desrthey15:35
desrtattente mostly covered it.  got together last week to discuss the interface between the proxy and what is needed from apparmor15:36
desrtand indeed, had a security team meeting.  imho, that didn't go very well15:36
desrtthe one thing that we really needed from them was not delivered (even though they delivered some other things)15:36
desrtso that's completely clear now15:36
desrtwork continues....15:36
desrteof15:36
willcookethanks desrt #15:36
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:36
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dgadomskihey15:36
dgadomski* backported fix to #1550983 from Debian to Xenial/Yakkety15:36
dgadomski* investigated a blank screen issue with intel vga on vesa driver, no conclusions yet15:37
dgadomski* checking a potential usblp issue15:37
dgadomskieof15:37
willcookethanks dgadomski15:37
willcooke#topic FJKong15:37
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willcookebug tracing:15:37
willcooke#165645015:37
willcookeDesktop notifications stop working15:37
willcookeshould be notify-daemon crash15:37
willcooke#165607115:37
willcookeExpect Preview in 16.10 When I Press Space, Instead, Nothing Happens.15:37
willcooke#164478115:37
willcookeSushi-start fails with 16.10 upgrade, both Unity and Mate15:37
willcookedue to sushi-start crash15:37
willcooke#topic flexiondotorg15:37
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willcooke<flexiondotorg> Time appropriate greetings!15:37
willcooke<flexiondotorg> · If you seen Dell and Barton George getting coverage in blogs and podcasts over the last couple of weeks, I've been working with Barton in the evenings to help broaden the exposure of the new Ubuntu Powered line-up from Dell.15:37
willcooke<flexiondotorg> · About a dozen upstreams and ISVs on the go.15:37
willcooke<flexiondotorg>   · Helping upstreams and ISVs unblock snap progress now that dbus support in snapd is in much better shape.15:37
willcooke<flexiondotorg>   · Snapcraft assistance for several projects who've shown interest but lack the time to get started.15:38
willcooke<flexiondotorg> · Testing Zesty themes. Aside from Firefox Notebooks (upstream issue) everything is in good shape.15:38
willcooke<flexiondotorg> · Testing Xenial dailies and liasing with System 76 who said they wanted to be more involved in the HWE testing last October.15:38
willcooke<flexiondotorg>   · System 76 have smoke tested all their supported computers, both upgrades and oem-installs.15:38
willcooke<flexiondotorg> 🎬15:38
willcooke#topic happyaron15:38
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willcooke1. nm bug #164728315:38
willcooke2. opencc SRU to yakkety, bug #165767715:38
ubot5bug 1647283 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "WiFi being detected as ethernet when race condition on renaming for persistent name" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164728315:38
willcooke3. opencc arch dependent data files, debian #85173315:38
ubot5bug 1657677 in opencc (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU]fix versioned Breaks/Replaces" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165767715:38
ubot5Debian bug 851733 in opencc "ocd data files are arch dependent" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/85173315:38
willcooke4. zfs-linux linux 4.9 compatibility15:38
willcooke5. prepare information for bug #99720015:38
ubot5bug 997200 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Test for captive portal before putting applications in online mode" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99720015:38
willcooke#topic hikiko15:38
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hikikohey :) low gfx: I am still trying to figure out what's missing from compizconfig and it doesn't update the profiles instantly + extend the lib, +sick leave monday15:38
hikikoeof15:38
willcookethanks hikiko15:39
willcooke#topic Laney15:39
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LaneyJUST IN TIME15:40
Laney• Reviewed/gave feedback/eventually uploaded a branch to add Scale=2 directories to Humanity15:40
Laney• Debugged ubiquity-dm being broken (broke oem-config and only-ubiquity/maybe-ubiquity mode), turned out to already have been fixed so poked ubiquity developers to merge that, done now15:40
Laney• Little bit more work on prepping gnome-software patches to go upstream15:40
Laney• Think some of the iso builds are hitting https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=838441, looking to debug atm15:40
ubot5Debian bug 838441 in apt "apt-get update fails with "Hash Sum mismatch", mixes hashes between tar.gz and tar file" [Normal,Open]15:40
Laney• autopkgtest:15:40
Laney∘ made blacklisted packages be more visible (e.g. in excuses)15:40
Laney∘ got some patch reviews: lxd reboot detection fix, fix for fetching packages if "Package-List" is last in the apt-cache showsrc output15:40
Laney∘ made a reproducer package for not killing the infrastructure if a test causes a kernel panic - panic() hell yeah, just need to fix it now15:40
Laney15:40
willcookethanks Laney15:40
willcooke#topic qengho15:41
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qengho* chromium beta arm fixes. No upstream stable release this week.15:41
qengho* browser-test snap, debugging audio problems in confinement. Icky.15:41
qengho* tor-middle-relay snap updated, 10 minutes this morning. launchpad build+upload of snaps is *so nice*.15:41
qenghoEOF15:41
willcooke:) thanks qengho15:42
willcooke#topic seb12815:42
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seb128• contributed to some snap mailing list discussions15:42
seb128• archive admin reviews15:42
seb128• tweaks to the snapd desktop launchers15:42
seb128• xenial desktopish SRU verifications and tried to get some items unstucked15:42
seb128• cleaned a bit the sponsoring queue15:42
seb128• usual rounds of launchpad bugstriaging, IRC discussions, etc15:42
seb128</week>15:42
willcookethanks seb12815:42
willcooke#topic Sweet5hark15:42
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Sweet5hark- sick on friday15:42
Sweet5hark- LibreOffice 5.3.0~rc1 as snap (on amd64 only), bumped to 5.3.0~rc2 then15:42
Sweet5hark- temporarily disabled some tests to pass snap on armhf15:42
Sweet5hark- temporarily disabled some more tests to pass snap on i38615:42
Sweet5hark- LibreOffice 5.3.0~rc1 as dpkg (but missing dbg symbols) -- initial merge for 5.3/zesty15:42
Sweet5hark- some fixes to get LibreOffice 5.3.0~rc1 l10n to build too (allow root builds)15:42
Sweet5hark- various more tweaks and fixes, some removal of delta to Debian15:42
Sweet5hark- bumped/merged dpkg to 5.3.0~rc2 and enabled dbgsyms in ppa builder (currently building)15:42
Sweet5hark- TDF Board, ESC, AB calls15:42
Sweet5hark- some TDF admin: budget approvals, tenders, PR coodination15:42
Sweet5hark- some trusty backporting forwarded to Debian15:42
Sweet5hark- backlog: didnt get to some backporting for precise still :/15:42
willcookethanks Sweet5hark15:43
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:43
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willcooke* Got PulseAudio v10 uploaded to Zesty. All my bluetooth hardware and audio hardware in general working ok.15:43
willcooke* More discussion with Konrad and Seb about getting new bluetooth stack and pulseaudio bluetooth fixes into Xenial.15:43
willcooke* Started going through upstream pusleaudio bluetooth patches, and put together a source package based on the Xenial updates source package. Need to set up a Xenial environment to test properly to see if they break anything.15:43
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:43
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tkamppeter- CUPS snap: Studied current state of the snapcraft docs and applied some stuff to the snap15:44
tkamppeter- cups-filters: Release of 1.13.315:44
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2017: Put up student project ideas for OpenPrinting, posted the mentoring organization application for the Linux Foundation, video conference student interview.15:44
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:44
willcookethanks tkamppeter15:44
willcooke#topic Trevinho15:44
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Trevinho· Added some cancellable to unity temporary dbus proxies (fixing crashes)15:44
Trevinho· Testing compizconfig for profile switching15:44
Trevinho· Looking at the new fdo StatusNotifierItem implementation15:44
Trevinho. Some more fixes to upstream Remmina to work with snap15:44
Trevinho. Workaround to snap-desktop-helpers to create missing $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR15:44
Trevinho· Add again remote indicators to snap-desktop-helpers15:44
Trevinho· Created a travis cron job that builds daily the Remmina snap, pushing latest git commit to edge and latest release tag to stable (using docker for both i386 and amd64)15:44
Trevinho· Remmina is then now in snap store (and got also some unexpected OMG! ubuntu coverage)15:44
Trevinho· Fixed snapcraft to detect proper arch when building in a 32bit userspace with a 64bit kernel (normally in a container)15:44
Trevinho EOF15:44
willcookethanks Trevinho15:45
willcooke#topic robert_ancell15:45
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willcooke- Working on snapd-glib regression tests (will be required to get SRU exception)15:45
willcooke- Landed snapd-glib Qt/QML bindings15:45
willcooke- Bug diagnosing work15:45
willcooke#topic AOB15:45
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willcookeAnyone got anything to share?15:45
willcookeSome news to pass on...15:45
willcookeWhat was Phonedations - now IOTdations - are helping with Network Manager and BlueZ15:46
seb128\o/15:46
attentenice15:46
willcookeso we should get paper cuts fixes over the next couple of weeks, and them I working with them to solidify the plan going forwards15:46
willcooke*tehn15:47
willcookethen15:47
Trevinhocool15:47
willcookebut generally we are already getting more involvement and it's working out well15:47
willcookeno doubt there will be SRUs to help with soon15:47
willcookeHave a couple of new feature requirements coming down the line around live patching.  Will get the full details and let you all know15:48
willcookeanyone got anything else?15:48
willcookegoing once15:49
willcooketwice15:50
willcookethrice, and sold.15:51
willcooke#endmeeting15:51
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan 24 15:51:21 2017 UTC.15:51
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-01-24-15.30.moin.txt15:51
willcookethanks all15:51
seb128thanks!15:51
qengho:)15:52
Trevinho:-)15:52
Trevinhosil2100: ah, well... Those... I was waiting for code review from ltinkl, but maybe you can proceed with code checks too.. Or andyrock could15:52
andyrockTrevinho: links?16:04
Trevinhoandyrock: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/236316:04
jcastroare there any open bugs on snap desktop apps not putting the icon in the right place?17:30
jcastrosomeone commented on the keespassxc snap on HN today that it didn't install an icon for them17:31
jcastroand I've seen some snaps not do this but I thought it was just me.17:32
davmor2jcastro: I have icons unless they expected it to appear in the launcher like it does with deb installed software, I don't have keespassxc installed though so can't confirm on that one17:32
jcastrohe just said "menu item" so I'm assuming the dash17:33
davmor2jcastro: installing and trying here17:35
jcastroI've seen that the dash sometimes takes a while to realize that there's a new .desktop file17:36
davmor2jcastro: I see it in dash17:37
davmor2jcastro: and that is searching straight after install17:38
jcastroshould I just tell him to file a bug?17:44
jcastroI wonder if he's using another desktop17:44
davmor2jcastro: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/personal-screenshots/keepassxc-crop.png17:44
davmor2jcastro: if he is on another desktop that might have an effect but in theory shouldn't17:45
jcastrook I'll just ask him to do that and then say which desktop, the new place for bugs is snapd in launchpad right? not github?17:45
davmor2jcastro: right17:55
willcookenigtha ll18:03
seb128k, enough for today, have a nice evening desktopers!18:15
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