[05:52] <hikiko> hi
[05:53] <TheMuso> Hey hikiko.
[05:54] <hikiko> hi TheMuso
[09:01] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[09:01] <willcooke> morning seb128
[09:01] <willcooke> How are you feeling today?
[09:01] <seb128> hey willcooke! I had a good night, feeling less tired/feverish which is good
[09:01] <seb128> still having the cold annoyance, sneezing, etc
[09:02] <seb128> but it's already an improvement :-)
[09:02] <willcooke> :)
[09:03] <Laney> morning
[09:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:03] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:03] <Laney> good thanks!
[09:03] <Laney> it got really foggy last night
[09:03] <Laney> was cool
[09:04] <Laney> how about you?
[09:04] <seb128> cool like "can't find the road anymore so I'm biking in the middle of nowhere"? ;-)
[09:05] <seb128> I'm fine, had a good night sleep and I'm feeling a bit better today!
[09:05] <flexiondotorg> Morning seb128 Laney willcooke hikiko_
[09:05] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[09:05] <willcooke> hey flexiondotorg
[09:06] <flexiondotorg> Stepping out for a bit. Back in a hour...
[09:08] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:12] <flexiondotorg> davmor2 o/
[09:13] <TheMuso> Hey folks.
[09:13] <willcooke> evening TheMuso
[09:14] <TheMuso> seb128: Could you do me a favour? I've got MIRs filed for espeak-ng and pcaudiolib, bug 1656741 and bug 1656742 respecitvely. COuld you please add them to the desktop-packagers team for bug mail? We are transitioning away from espeak, which si no longer maintained.
[09:15] <seb128> hey TheMuso, done
[09:15] <TheMuso> seb128: Thank you.
[09:15] <seb128> yw!
[09:16] <hikiko_> morning all
[09:29] <Sweet5hark> morning all
[09:30] <Sweet5hark> seems we are a globally distributed sick room.
[09:30] <hikiko> :)
[09:30] <Laney> hey Sweet5hark and hikiko
[09:30] <Laney> hey davmor2 and flexiondotorg and TheMuso
[09:30]  * Sweet5hark is still on antibiotics, but starting to feel better.
[09:31] <Laney> I had a runny nose last week for a couple of days
[09:31] <Laney> but then it got better instead of worse
[09:31]  * Laney STRONG
[09:31]  * Laney STOMPS YOU
[09:31] <hikiko> hi Laney davmor2 flexiondotorg Sweet5hark seb128 willcooke flexiondotorg well +all
[09:32] <hikiko> I still have flu :p
[09:32] <davmor2> hikiko: :( get 100% soon
[09:32] <hikiko> thanks :)
[09:33] <davmor2> Laney: How's life in the grim north?
[09:36] <Laney> davmor2: I see blue skies, and I see ice
[09:36] <Laney> looks nice :3
[09:36] <davmor2> Laney: I see no ice, see how much grimmer it is up north ;)
[09:38] <Laney> not grim
[09:38] <Laney> it is a GREAT winter day
[09:38] <TheMuso> We've just come out the back end of a scorcher here... Thankfull a southerly buster came through and the evening is a pleasant one.
[09:38] <TheMuso> thankfully*
[09:42] <Laney> TheMuso: I read soemthing about a record run of high temperature
[09:45] <TheMuso> Laney: That certainly may be the case in other parts of Aus.
[09:46] <TheMuso> Laney: We did have a record breaking overnight temperature a week or so back, 26 or so degrees C.
[09:46] <TheMuso> Thats in Sydney.
[09:47] <Laney> TheMuso: https://www.theguardian.com/weather/2017/jan/24/sydney-heatwave-expected-to-shatter-weather-record-set-before-federation <- that's the one I read
[09:50] <TheMuso> No idea if we got there but I wouldn't be surprised if we did.
[09:51] <TheMuso> Oh thats for today.
[09:51] <TheMuso> Yeah well in my local area I think it got to about 36.
[09:51] <TheMuso> Still darn hot.
[09:53] <Laney> Yep yep yep
[10:59] <sil2100> Trevinho: hey! I see your appmenu silo is ready for release since a while - I generally leave such no-packaging-changes silos to be released by the landers, you want me to press the button?
[11:05] <Sweet5hark> ahh, libreoffice-l10n finally completed the build. now for keeping stuff afloat ...
[15:30] <willcooke> ding ding
[15:30] <seb128> hoi
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-01-24
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 24 15:30:37 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:30] <Sweet5hark> grmbl,  something is fscked up about epoxy and i dont even know what that is.
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong (out), flexiondotorg (meeting), happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <qengho> Aiee!
[15:30] <Sweet5hark> o/
[15:31] <hikiko> hello
[15:31] <desrt> yup
[15:31] <andyrock> hey
[15:32] <willcooke> 1 more minute...
[15:32] <hikiko> :)
[15:33] <willcooke> oki, let's start
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:33] <andyrock> hey
[15:33] <andyrock> #1. Proposed a branch for recording failing test on jenikins for unity8
[15:34] <andyrock> #2. Worked a little bit for the a11y problem with compiz
[15:34] <andyrock> #3. Reviewing a comping branch
[15:34] <andyrock> eow
[15:34] <willcooke> thanks andyrock, good stuff
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:34] <attente> hey
[15:34] <attente> apparmor dconf patch testing and review with desrt, meeting with security team to figure out missing requirements
[15:34] <attente> mir patch backporting from gtk4 to gtk3 to reduce the delt
[15:34] <attente> started debugging combo box problems in gtk-mir/miral-shell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/miral/+bug/1655997
[15:35] <attente> (eof)
[15:35] <willcooke> great! thanks to you and desrt for the work with the sec. team
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:35] <desrt> hey
[15:36] <desrt> attente mostly covered it.  got together last week to discuss the interface between the proxy and what is needed from apparmor
[15:36] <desrt> and indeed, had a security team meeting.  imho, that didn't go very well
[15:36] <desrt> the one thing that we really needed from them was not delivered (even though they delivered some other things)
[15:36] <desrt> so that's completely clear now
[15:36] <desrt> work continues....
[15:36] <desrt> eof
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks desrt #
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:36] <dgadomski> hey
[15:36] <dgadomski> * backported fix to #1550983 from Debian to Xenial/Yakkety
[15:37] <dgadomski> * investigated a blank screen issue with intel vga on vesa driver, no conclusions yet
[15:37] <dgadomski> * checking a potential usblp issue
[15:37] <dgadomski> eof
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:37] <willcooke> bug tracing:
[15:37] <willcooke> #1656450
[15:37] <willcooke> Desktop notifications stop working
[15:37] <willcooke> should be notify-daemon crash
[15:37] <willcooke> #1656071
[15:37] <willcooke> Expect Preview in 16.10 When I Press Space, Instead, Nothing Happens.
[15:37] <willcooke> #1644781
[15:37] <willcooke> Sushi-start fails with 16.10 upgrade, both Unity and Mate
[15:37] <willcooke> due to sushi-start crash
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg
 Time appropriate greetings!
 · If you seen Dell and Barton George getting coverage in blogs and podcasts over the last couple of weeks, I've been working with Barton in the evenings to help broaden the exposure of the new Ubuntu Powered line-up from Dell.
 · About a dozen upstreams and ISVs on the go.
   · Helping upstreams and ISVs unblock snap progress now that dbus support in snapd is in much better shape.
   · Snapcraft assistance for several projects who've shown interest but lack the time to get started.
 · Testing Zesty themes. Aside from Firefox Notebooks (upstream issue) everything is in good shape.
 · Testing Xenial dailies and liasing with System 76 who said they wanted to be more involved in the HWE testing last October.
   · System 76 have smoke tested all their supported computers, both upgrades and oem-installs.
 🎬
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:38] <willcooke> 1. nm bug #1647283
[15:38] <willcooke> 2. opencc SRU to yakkety, bug #1657677
[15:38] <willcooke> 3. opencc arch dependent data files, debian #851733
[15:38] <willcooke> 4. zfs-linux linux 4.9 compatibility
[15:38] <willcooke> 5. prepare information for bug #997200
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:38] <hikiko> hey :) low gfx: I am still trying to figure out what's missing from compizconfig and it doesn't update the profiles instantly + extend the lib, +sick leave monday
[15:38] <hikiko> eof
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks hikiko
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:40] <Laney> JUST IN TIME
[15:40] <Laney> • Reviewed/gave feedback/eventually uploaded a branch to add Scale=2 directories to Humanity
[15:40] <Laney> • Debugged ubiquity-dm being broken (broke oem-config and only-ubiquity/maybe-ubiquity mode), turned out to already have been fixed so poked ubiquity developers to merge that, done now
[15:40] <Laney> • Little bit more work on prepping gnome-software patches to go upstream
[15:40] <Laney> • Think some of the iso builds are hitting https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=838441, looking to debug atm
[15:40] <Laney> • autopkgtest:
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ made blacklisted packages be more visible (e.g. in excuses)
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ got some patch reviews: lxd reboot detection fix, fix for fetching packages if "Package-List" is last in the apt-cache showsrc output
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ made a reproducer package for not killing the infrastructure if a test causes a kernel panic - panic() hell yeah, just need to fix it now
[15:40] <Laney> ⚜
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:41] <qengho> * chromium beta arm fixes. No upstream stable release this week.
[15:41] <qengho> * browser-test snap, debugging audio problems in confinement. Icky.
[15:41] <qengho> * tor-middle-relay snap updated, 10 minutes this morning. launchpad build+upload of snaps is *so nice*.
[15:41] <qengho> EOF
[15:42] <willcooke> :) thanks qengho
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:42] <seb128> • contributed to some snap mailing list discussions
[15:42] <seb128> • archive admin reviews
[15:42] <seb128> • tweaks to the snapd desktop launchers
[15:42] <seb128> • xenial desktopish SRU verifications and tried to get some items unstucked
[15:42] <seb128> • cleaned a bit the sponsoring queue
[15:42] <seb128> • usual rounds of launchpad bugstriaging, IRC discussions, etc
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[15:42] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - sick on friday
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice 5.3.0~rc1 as snap (on amd64 only), bumped to 5.3.0~rc2 then
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - temporarily disabled some tests to pass snap on armhf
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - temporarily disabled some more tests to pass snap on i386
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice 5.3.0~rc1 as dpkg (but missing dbg symbols) -- initial merge for 5.3/zesty
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - some fixes to get LibreOffice 5.3.0~rc1 l10n to build too (allow root builds)
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - various more tweaks and fixes, some removal of delta to Debian
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - bumped/merged dpkg to 5.3.0~rc2 and enabled dbgsyms in ppa builder (currently building)
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - TDF Board, ESC, AB calls
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - some TDF admin: budget approvals, tenders, PR coodination
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - some trusty backporting forwarded to Debian
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - backlog: didnt get to some backporting for precise still :/
[15:43] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:43] <willcooke> * Got PulseAudio v10 uploaded to Zesty. All my bluetooth hardware and audio hardware in general working ok.
[15:43] <willcooke> * More discussion with Konrad and Seb about getting new bluetooth stack and pulseaudio bluetooth fixes into Xenial.
[15:43] <willcooke> * Started going through upstream pusleaudio bluetooth patches, and put together a source package based on the Xenial updates source package. Need to set up a Xenial environment to test properly to see if they break anything.
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - CUPS snap: Studied current state of the snapcraft docs and applied some stuff to the snap
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Release of 1.13.3
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2017: Put up student project ideas for OpenPrinting, posted the mentoring organization application for the Linux Foundation, video conference student interview.
[15:44] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Added some cancellable to unity temporary dbus proxies (fixing crashes)
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Testing compizconfig for profile switching
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Looking at the new fdo StatusNotifierItem implementation
[15:44] <Trevinho> . Some more fixes to upstream Remmina to work with snap
[15:44] <Trevinho> . Workaround to snap-desktop-helpers to create missing $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Add again remote indicators to snap-desktop-helpers
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Created a travis cron job that builds daily the Remmina snap, pushing latest git commit to edge and latest release tag to stable (using docker for both i386 and amd64)
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Remmina is then now in snap store (and got also some unexpected OMG! ubuntu coverage)
[15:44] <Trevinho> · Fixed snapcraft to detect proper arch when building in a 32bit userspace with a 64bit kernel (normally in a container)
[15:44] <Trevinho>  EOF
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:45] <willcooke> - Working on snapd-glib regression tests (will be required to get SRU exception)
[15:45] <willcooke> - Landed snapd-glib Qt/QML bindings
[15:45] <willcooke> - Bug diagnosing work
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:45] <willcooke> Anyone got anything to share?
[15:45] <willcooke> Some news to pass on...
[15:46] <willcooke> What was Phonedations - now IOTdations - are helping with Network Manager and BlueZ
[15:46] <seb128> \o/
[15:46] <attente> nice
[15:46] <willcooke> so we should get paper cuts fixes over the next couple of weeks, and them I working with them to solidify the plan going forwards
[15:47] <willcooke> *tehn
[15:47] <willcooke> then
[15:47] <Trevinho> cool
[15:47] <willcooke> but generally we are already getting more involvement and it's working out well
[15:47] <willcooke> no doubt there will be SRUs to help with soon
[15:48] <willcooke> Have a couple of new feature requirements coming down the line around live patching.  Will get the full details and let you all know
[15:48] <willcooke> anyone got anything else?
[15:49] <willcooke> going once
[15:50] <willcooke> twice
[15:51] <willcooke> thrice, and sold.
[15:51] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 24 15:51:21 2017 UTC.
[15:51] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-01-24-15.30.moin.txt
[15:51] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:51] <seb128> thanks!
[15:52] <qengho> :)
[15:52] <Trevinho> :-)
[15:52] <Trevinho> sil2100: ah, well... Those... I was waiting for code review from ltinkl, but maybe you can proceed with code checks too.. Or andyrock could
[16:04] <andyrock> Trevinho: links?
[16:04] <Trevinho> andyrock: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2363
[17:30] <jcastro> are there any open bugs on snap desktop apps not putting the icon in the right place?
[17:31] <jcastro> someone commented on the keespassxc snap on HN today that it didn't install an icon for them
[17:32] <jcastro> and I've seen some snaps not do this but I thought it was just me.
[17:32] <davmor2> jcastro: I have icons unless they expected it to appear in the launcher like it does with deb installed software, I don't have keespassxc installed though so can't confirm on that one
[17:33] <jcastro> he just said "menu item" so I'm assuming the dash
[17:35] <davmor2> jcastro: installing and trying here
[17:36] <jcastro> I've seen that the dash sometimes takes a while to realize that there's a new .desktop file
[17:37] <davmor2> jcastro: I see it in dash
[17:38] <davmor2> jcastro: and that is searching straight after install
[17:44] <jcastro> should I just tell him to file a bug?
[17:44] <jcastro> I wonder if he's using another desktop
[17:44] <davmor2> jcastro: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/personal-screenshots/keepassxc-crop.png
[17:45] <davmor2> jcastro: if he is on another desktop that might have an effect but in theory shouldn't
[17:45] <jcastro> ok I'll just ask him to do that and then say which desktop, the new place for bugs is snapd in launchpad right? not github?
[17:55] <davmor2> jcastro: right
[18:03] <willcooke> nigtha ll
[18:15] <seb128> k, enough for today, have a nice evening desktopers!