[00:06] <motion228> hello...
[00:07] <zenvok> hi
[00:08] <zenvok> i<m new here so don't worry everything is under control
[00:08] <zenvok> lol
[00:08] <zenvok> just the receptionism thats all
[00:23] <zenvok> who's on duty tonight ?
[00:25] <j09> I'm thinking about switching to Ubuntu MATE. I've heard you don't have the bug that causes a lot wireless cards to not connect after resume from suspend. Does anyone know if this is true?
[00:27] <Astro7467> j09, I cannot confirm nor deny, but thought this issue was resolved in all Ubuntu releases 16.04.1, and a non-issue in 16.10 - and that the problem is not DE related
[00:30] <j09> Ok, I think I may give it a go. Its looks great in a VM.
[00:56] <HoppingMadMan> I have not been effected by since about two weeks j09 there was a update that came down the pipes that fixed it
[00:58] <j09> That's good to know HoppingMadMan
[00:59] <HoppingMadMan> But just remember if you are running a brodcom chips you need the firmware
[01:00] <j09> It's a Qualcomm Atheros
[01:01] <HoppingMadMan> You will be fine then
[01:01] <HoppingMadMan> I never had trouble with my Qualcomm chips
[01:03] <Astro7467> Wish I could say the same for anything I have with RealTek NICs - I hate RealTek chips - an worse is that they seem to be in everything if it doesn't use an Intel NIC.. grumble .. grumble..
[01:07] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah.... Don't worry I could say the same thing with my whole HP Laptop... I am really wish I had the cash to upgrade... This thing needs some many tweaks after install any linux ditro I just stay on any LTS because once it starts running stable I just need to pray nothing breaks
[01:25] <j09> the WIFI seems to work after resume from suspend. Nice!
[01:42] <j09> Nice. I got my Ubuntu MATE all set up and working nicely. I'm always pleasantly surprised by this distro. It's not much but I left a small tip on the donations page for the pleasure. Thanks guys.
[01:51] <christian_> hi
[02:47] <Guest63433> Anyone know how to make the top of the Window appear within the bar at the top? ... am I even making sense?
[02:48] <Astro7467> The window size is messed up and you cannot drag it down?
[02:49] <Astro7467> Try ALT-SPACE, should drp the window menu so you can do move or resize - I usually fix with keyboard - mouse can be troublesome
[02:51] <Guest63433> No, sorry. When I first installed Ubuntu-mate... there was an option that when you maximize the window... the top of the window isn't there. I guess trying to make it behave like a Mac does... where it's built into the top bar
[02:51] <Astro7467> aH UNDERSTAND - JUST A SEC
[02:51] <Guest63433> Thanks Astro!
[02:51] <Guest63433> Been looking for the last half-hour without success
[02:52] <Astro7467> Control CFentre -> MATE Tweak -> Windows
[02:53] <Astro7467> De-select "Undecorate maximised windows"
[02:53] <Guest63433> Under MATE Tweak. Got it. I tried the regular Windows config.
[02:54] <Guest63433> The reason I disabled it before was because the window controls completely vanished and I couldn't figure out how to unmaximize
[02:55] <Guest63433> I discovered I could pull it down to unmaximize
[02:55] <Guest63433> Astro any favorite software that you just have to have on Linux? I'm a little new to it.
[02:55] <Astro7467> that problem is where my 1st try at guessing your problem comes in
[02:56] <Astro7467> it happens if you play with layouts etc when there are windows open - they don't seem to get a event to re-size
[02:56] <Astro7467> *an
[02:57] <Guest63433> Hmm yeah. I'm not sure if I'll keep it... I was trying to duplicate the MAC behavior but it doesn't quite do it.
[02:57] <Guest63433> TopMenu Panel Applet doesn't respect the transparency of the top bar
[02:58] <Guest63433> and there is no way to change from maximized if you enable it... without keyboard shortcuts
[02:58] <Astro7467> I like it from a screen realestate point of view but find it impractical when doing a lot of window jumping with full screen and tiled windows plus having focus-follow with the mouse
[02:58] <Guest63433> yeah :/
[02:58] <Guest63433> maybe someday they will nail it... or I'll learn enough programming to offer a fix :D
[03:25] <HoppingMadMan> So what have I missed?
[04:07] <sadac> hello
[15:06] <swift110> hey all
[15:18] <alkisg> Hello
[15:30] <swift110> how are you ali1234
[15:30] <swift110> alkisg: i mean
[15:31] <alkisg> I'm fine, do you have some ubuntu-mate support question?
[15:36] <swift110> hmm
[15:36] <swift110> no
[17:10] <tony_> hi
[17:43] <binarydepth> I was experiementing with Unity
[17:43] <binarydepth> And installing the Mate desktoip enabled themed Unity
[18:42] <rmflagg> Hello everyone!  I have a question about the interaction of Mate and Kupfer.
[18:43] <rmflagg> I don't know if anyone has any experience with Kupfer, but here goes:  When I open an application, say Galculator, and I use Kupfer to open another instance of Galculator, it doen't open a second one, but takes me to the existing instance of Galc.
[18:44] <rmflagg> When I did this in Cinnamon, it would open a new instance of the application, which is what I would like to happen.  Anyone know how to achieve this?
[19:49] <jaime> hola...  como puedo instalar el adpatador tplink wn722n
[19:51] <Akuli> we need a more verbose "don't quit within 10 minutes of asking" in the /topic
[19:55] <dersven> hi
[19:55] <dersven> i changed the password of my main-user with passwd user, but now it doesnt work
[19:56] <dersven> its a really simple pw. its not a typo
[19:56] <Akuli> did you get any error messages?
[19:57] <dersven> i cant unlock the screensaver nor sudo su -
[19:57] <Akuli> hmm
[19:57] <Akuli> and it's the same username?
[19:57] <dersven> yes
[19:58] <Akuli> have you logged out and back in? i'm not sure why that would matter though
[19:58] <alkisg> dersven: are you sure you ran passwd user and not sudo passwd?
[19:58] <dersven> i did sudo su -
[19:58] <dersven> the passwd user
[19:58] <dersven> then
[19:58] <alkisg> Then you changed the root password, not the user password
[19:58] <alkisg> Try with the old password
[19:58] <dersven> the old one doesnt work either
[19:58] <Akuli> passwd user changes password of user
[19:58] <alkisg> Try: su -
[19:58] <alkisg> Does the new password work there, for root?
[19:59] <alkisg> sudo su -; passwd; changes password of root
[19:59] <dersven> as i said i did passwd user
[19:59] <alkisg> Ah sorry I missed that part
[19:59] <alkisg> my bad
[19:59] <Akuli> does systemd have some kind of weird password managing thing?
[19:59] <alkisg> No
[19:59] <Akuli> wouldn't surprise me if it had
[20:00] <Akuli> how can you be sure?
[20:00] <Akuli> it has everything...
[20:00] <alkisg> Hehe
[20:00] <alkisg> dersven: well, an easy way to reset it is to select "recovery" from grub
[20:00] <alkisg> There you get root access, so you can reset the password
[20:00] <dersven> alkisg: yes if that was so easy.. grub isnt displayed
[20:01] <alkisg> Another is with a live cd
[20:01] <dersven> i see bios for 0,5secs then black screen, then desktop
[20:01] <alkisg> Try holding down left shift
[20:01] <dersven> ok livecd it is ;)
[20:11] <Akuli> booting straight into a shell from grub is another nice alternative
[20:11] <Akuli> kind of a hack but hey, it works
[20:12] <alkisg> if he managed to get a grub menu...
[20:12] <alkisg> He doesn't get a grub menu though
[20:12] <dersven> livestick worked
[20:13] <alkisg> You need to mount and run chroot, then passwd...
[20:13] <dersven> yes its done
[20:13] <dersven> workde
[20:13] <dersven> workde
[20:13] <dersven> worked
[20:13] <dersven> damn
[20:14] <dersven> what do you guys use for remotedesktop
[20:15] <alkisg> reverse vnc, mostly...
[20:15] <dersven> i want to phone home from work and managa downloads and stuff
[20:15] <alkisg> And teamviewer for windows
[20:15] <alkisg> There's also x2go
[20:15] <dersven> i want to connect from windows to my linux-desktop
[20:15] <alkisg> All of the above can do that
[20:16] <dersven> oh teamviewer as .deb
[20:16] <dersven> nice
[20:26] <stich> русо туристо
[20:28] <dersven> wtf teamviewer uses wine?!
[20:28] <Akuli> that's lazy
[20:31] <dersven> and its doesnt work
[20:32] <dersven> tv doesnt ask for a password on the windows-side
[20:36] <dersven> uhh strike that
[20:37] <dersven> version were incompatible
[20:37] <dersven> it really works
[22:13] <ubuntu-mate> hi, german here