[06:51] morning guys [06:52] everyday i receive at least 1 phising email - is there anywhere i can report it ? [07:00] \o all [07:00] missed, kulelu88 [07:01] maaz tell kulelu88 to ping andrewlsd if he still hasn't got history timestamps working [07:01] andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode [07:06] nsnzero: Only one, that's not bad. Since subscribing to debian mailing lists I get about 5-10 a day [07:06] Luckily all caught by the spam filter [07:10] thanks paddatrapper - i wanted to report it so others dont get caught - i have a good spam filter - common sense - unfortuanately others may not [07:13] morning [07:14] \o thatgraemeguy [07:43] nsnzero: Yeah I understand, not sure there is a place to report them that is actually effective [07:57] would be nice if these spammer can get caught [08:02] Anyone know of a good online storage service for dumping about 5-10GB worth of backups? Preferably with a low price-point [08:09] Amazon Glacier paddatrapper [08:09] and/or "crashplan" [08:10] Glacier is very cheap, until you need to recover all your data. [08:10] mega.nz free account 50G [08:10] Glacier allows you to retrieve a percentage of your data at no additional charge. +1 for nszero [08:11] with any cloud hosting, also have a plan for how to migrate to another provider, in case the one you've selected closes down (or just shutters that product) [08:12] thanks, yeah I just back-up the lxc containers and then restore them to a new host if I need to move providers, etc, but I need to find a way of doing it that doesn't require me downloading it all locally [08:14] ... if those containers contain sensitive information then you probably want to encrypt that data before uploading them. [08:14] Definitely plan on it [08:15] OTH, you could run your own LXD image registry on amazon. and use that to publish your LXC containers. [08:15] ... methinks Mega is likely the easiest option. [08:18] nsnzero: is it possible to rsync/similar to mega? [08:20] i havent used it myself - but they offer megatools a command line client - not sure if its free though [08:23] this might help - its free - https://github.com/megous/megatools [08:26] thanks. I'll take a look [08:27] And it's in debian repos === chesedo- is now known as chesedo [08:28] and this if you want to mount the share locally - https://github.com/matteoserva/MegaFuse [08:48] * andrewlsd lurks [09:26] Do we have a meeting tonight? [09:34] maaz might know [09:39] the ubuntu loco team portal needs updating btw [09:41] Maaz: meeting [09:41] Meetings are held every 3rd Monday of each month at 19h30 SAST. More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings [09:42] That page is also out of date... [09:46] paddatrapper: so we should have had a meeting on the 16th, by the looks of that info from Maaz [09:54] andrewlsd: The channel title says today at 20:30. Then I guess shall we have it? [10:43] Maaz: seen Kilos [10:43] paddatrapper: Kilos was last seen 1 day, 5 hours and 22 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-01-23 07:43:16 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-01-23 08:06:13 SAST [10:45] we should have a meeting tonight [10:48] paddatrapper: seems like you would be chair... i can share our cheatsheet in a bit if you are still up to it? [11:12] To all: the meeting page has been updated so feel free to add anything missing... [11:12] Maaz: announce Meeting here tonight [11:12] Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting here tonight [11:20] inetpro: can you send out the twitter notification for the meeting? === synapse is now known as Guest89004 [11:22] hi synapse | Guest89004 [11:23] and welcome to the ubuntu-za channel [11:38] chesedo: I read the word cheese in your nick now I want cheese puffs [11:45] chesedo: cool. That would be great thanks [12:35] jerit: nlsthzn may have some again at the meeting tonight :P [12:35] thought he never shares them either :D [12:37] inetpro: we also need to make sure paddatrapper has Maaz permissions for tonight's meeting [12:37] Maaz: last seen kulelu88 [12:37] chesedo: Excuse me? [12:38] Maaz: seen kulelu88 [12:38] chesedo: kulelu88 was last seen 16 hours, 43 minutes and 55 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-01-23 21:54:05 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-01-24 04:56:36 SAST [13:45] yikes! [13:45] good mornings [13:45] chesedo: I won't make the meeting tonight [13:46] paddatrapper: let's see whether we can get you up on Maaz [13:49] inetpro: thanks, that would be useful [13:51] Maaz: help accounts [13:51] inetpro: Manage users accounts with the bot. An account represents a person. An account has one or more identities, which is a user on a specific source. [13:51] You can use it like this: [13:51] I am on [13:51] link user to on [13:51] remove identity on [from ] [13:51] create account [] [13:51] delete (my account|account ) [13:51] rename (my account|account ) to [13:51] set (my|) to [13:51] list (my|'s) identities [13:51] Maaz: permissions for paddatrapper [13:51] inetpro: I don't know who paddatrapper is [13:51] lol [13:52] paddatrapper: try this: "Maaz: I am paddatrapper on irc" [13:52] obviously without quotes [13:52] Maaz: I am paddatrapper on irc [13:52] paddatrapper: I've created the account paddatrapper for you [13:52] paddatrapper: I am not connected to irc [13:52] Maaz: I am paddatrapper on freenode [13:52] paddatrapper: This identity is already attached to account paddatrapper [13:52] whats up all [13:52] Maaz: permissions for paddatrapper [13:52] inetpro: Permissions: none [13:52] hey shifter [13:52] Maaz: grant chairmeeting to paddatrapper [13:52] inetpro: Alrighty [13:52] Maaz: permissions for paddatrapper [13:52] inetpro: Permissions: +chairmeeting [13:53] paddatrapper: done [13:53] thanks [13:53] has anyone used bitvise ssh before on windows? [13:53] hey paddatrapper [13:56] paddatrapper: don't know whether it matters that we said irc rather than freenode above [13:56] if you want you can just remove identity and we try again [13:57] shifter: what is windows? [13:58] anyone know of a good alternative for bitvise ssh, something that can open a terminal window and a sftp windows [13:58] inetpro, its cancer, i recently found the cure [13:58] haha :-D [14:11] inetpro: What's the time? [14:12] Hello ubuntu-za [14:12] shifter: putty or winscp [14:12] Hi sakhi [14:12] thanks superfly, do they have sftp windows as well? [14:12] hi superfly happy for you :) greencard. [14:13] sakhi: thanks! [14:14] shifter: I don't know. I just know that those two are tools some colleagues of mine used. I last used Windows more than 10 years ago [14:15] Any suggestions on Linux based VPN (besides OpenVPN) that will allow users connection to their Windows DC's and other local MS services? [14:15] lol, thanks superfly [14:15] sakhi: what about pptp? [14:15] inetpro: It does, it it dependent on your config file - by default it uses freenode, as each irc server (freenode, atrum, oftc, etc) is a different source [14:15] hey superfly [14:15] Hey paddatrapper! [14:16] Maaz: link user paddatrapper to paddatrapper on freenode [14:16] paddatrapper: Just do it yourself [14:16] Pf-Sense (vpn) -> Auth -> AD -> Services. I need to have *nix on the edge. [14:16] superfly: How goes things? [14:17] superfly: that should work, will check it, will also look at what IKE. [14:17] paddatrapper: slowly. Finally got a desk, so now I can at least set up the mac again and have a desktop machine [14:18] superfly: Nice! Getting there [14:18] paddatrapper: am uncle gave us a PC, but we need to go fetch it, so I'm not sure what its specs are [14:18] *an [14:18] paddatrapper, sakhi: What's the time there at the moment? [14:19] I've completely lost track [14:19] superfly: 16:20 [14:19] Thanks. I want to try to be at the meeting [14:20] superfly: Meeting is in 2h10 [14:21] OK, 9:30 my time [14:24] if I wanted to run sublime test form the terminal, how would i do that? [14:25] *test [14:25] *text [14:25] shifter: you use vim :) [14:25] lol eventually [14:26] let me crawl first before I move to hyper speed [14:27] lol, vim isn't too bad [14:28] actually, it's easier to just go straight to vim. It's so completely different to other editors that you'll only get more confused if you use others. [14:28] aw maaaaaaaaaaan [14:29] http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html [14:29] shifter: read that ^^ [14:30] shifter: also this: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/ [14:30] ok, prepare for more annoying questions LOL [14:32] https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Yckiwntz2PIGsbSn6Q3COPmCLLntVw7h1DJwk9mbeEg/mobilepresent [14:33] im still on the first resource [14:34] superfly: hi, do you know of any good *complete* and in-depth vim guides? [14:35] vi is the "killerest" LOL === chesedo- is now known as chesedo === MaNL is now known as MaNI === sakhi_ is now known as sakhi [15:46] chesedo: I don't. I used the first article I linked to, and then I just used it on a daily basis for anything that involved typing, except e-mails. [15:46] You can probably figure out a way to use it for e-mail too, I just haven't bothered because my e-mail is web-based, [15:58] chesedo, shifter: also, use Neovim, not vim. And get some good plugins installed. I'll put up my configuration just now. [15:58] im trying out vimtutor [16:04] chesedo, shifter: also, http://vimawesome.com [16:07] chesedo, shifter: I'm using vim-plug as a plugin manager. See https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug [16:07] chesedo, shifter: this is my init.vim for Neovim: https://bin.snyman.info/mmm8mcm7 [16:08] superfly: mutt for email, with $EDITOR=vim will allow you to use it for email too [16:09] paddatrapper: does mutt work with imap? [16:09] * paddatrapper has his config in git: https://gitlab.com/paddatrapper/dotfiles [16:09] superfly: last I checked yup [16:09] I was using it with Gmail for a while, then got lazy [16:10] paddatrapper: I have my config in bzr on a server I control ;-) [16:10] I need to install loggerhead or something [16:10] superfly: Nice, a little _too_ much work for me there [16:11] I need to fix the current issues I'm facing before I even consider adding more to my infrastructure [16:11] paddatrapper: actually, all you need is bzr installed on the server (and in the case of git, git) for a remote repo. for a frontend you'd need something like cgit [16:11] one day then :) [16:12] man this is hectic [16:14] chesedo, shifter: also, install Hack: http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/ [16:31] paddatrapper: so, is this meeting happening? [16:58] * superfly feels like he's missing something [17:25] superfly: Seems I can't maths - supposed to be in an hour [17:25] ah, OK [17:25] Sorry was busy with supper [17:25] np [17:25] It's currently 10:25am here, so I've pretty much got all day ;-) [18:02] paddatrapper: just a tip, we should have an AGREED to end every topic. If you look at the last meeting's minutes, you'll see that there are lots of topics, but nothing to say what we actually discussed or even decided (if anything) [18:02] Maaz: help meetings [18:02] superfly: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this: [18:02] (start | end) meeting [about ] [18:02] <Maaz> I am <True Name> [18:02] <Maaz> topic <topic> [18:02] <Maaz> (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement> [18:02] <Maaz> minutes so far [18:02] <Maaz> meeting title is <title> [18:03] <superfly> paddatrapper: I think using "idea" might also be a good idea... if you'll excuse the pun [18:03] <paddatrapper> superfly: thanks. Yeah will do [18:04] <superfly> paddatrapper: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161122#Summary to see what I mean [18:05] <superfly> maybe I should raise it as an idea in the meeting ;-) [18:05] <superfly> how meta :-P [18:12] <nsnzero> evening all [18:12] * smile pokes superfly [18:12] <smile> is there a meeting tonight / today? [18:12] <superfly> hi nsnzero, smile [18:12] <nsnzero> at 8.30 [18:12] <superfly> smile: yes [18:12] <superfly> in about 15 minutes [18:12] <smile> okay :) [18:13] <nsnzero> greetings superfly and smile [18:13] <superfly> nsnzero: 11:30 my time, I think [18:13] <smile> Don't forget it's 19:13 here, nsnzero :p [18:13] <nsnzero> my apologies 8.30pm [18:13] <smile> oke :) [18:16] <nsnzero> back in the day my grandfather used to wind his watch , now we have to charge our watches [18:16] <smile> kmf: welcome [18:17] <kmf> hi smile [18:18] <nsnzero> thanks for joining us kmf [18:19] <kmf> np nsnzero [18:19] <superfly> sup kmf! [18:19] <kmf> howdy superfly ... hoe's die weer? [18:20] <superfly> kmf: 'n bietjie koud, maar nie sleg nie. beter a kaapstad se winter, en veels beter as gauteng se winter [18:20] <superfly> *as [18:20] <kmf> lol ... keep to engrish sounds better [18:28] <nsnzero> almost meeting time ... [18:29] <paddatrapper> 2 minutes according to my clock [18:30] <chesedo> a few seconds [18:30] <paddatrapper> and [18:30] <chesedo> hi kmf [18:30] <paddatrapper> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - January 2017 [18:30] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:30] <kmf> chesedo: hello! [18:30] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:30] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:31] <paddatrapper> Welcome all those who made it, thanks for being here! [18:31] <paddatrapper> Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. [18:31] <paddatrapper> Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze [18:31] <Maaz> paddatrapper: Okay [18:31] <chesedo> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:31] <Maaz> chesedo: Yessir [18:31] <paddatrapper> The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170124 feel free to add any last minute stuff [18:32] <paddatrapper> everyone happy with the agenda? [18:33] <nsnzero> Maaz: i am nsnzero [18:33] <Maaz> nsnzero: Righto [18:33] <chesedo> paddatrapper: I'm ok with it [18:33] <kmf> +1 [18:33] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes [18:33] <Maaz> Agreed: All happy with previous minutes [18:34] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Review of previous minutes [18:34] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review of previous minutes === smile is now known as smile|bbl [18:34] <paddatrapper> Previous minutes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161122#Summary [18:35] <paddatrapper> Everyone happy with the minutes of last meeting? Even if it was a while ago [18:35] <paddatrapper> ? [18:36] <chesedo> yes [18:36] <kmf> +1 [18:36] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes [18:36] <Maaz> Agreed: All happy with previous minutes [18:36] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Plans for 2017 [18:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2017 [18:37] <paddatrapper> They aren't around, but does anyone know the status of magespawn's application or that of tareq or Kapanda? [18:38] <chesedo> superfly kmf nsnzero thatgraemeguy shifter spinza would you guys introduce yourself to Maaz with your fullnames [18:38] <chesedo> paddatrapper: i am checking magespawns [18:38] <paddatrapper> And while we're at it, anyone else wanting help with membership, launchpad IDs, etc? [18:38] <kmf> Maaz: I am Karl Fischer [18:38] <Maaz> kmf: Righto [18:38] <chesedo> wiki page still missing for him [18:38] <paddatrapper> superfly: word wakker man! [18:39] <chesedo> lol, we took to long, he was eager 2h ago :P [18:39] <paddatrapper> chesedo: cool. I haven't seen tareq or Kapanda around at all [18:39] <paddatrapper> yeah kids must be calling [18:40] <paddatrapper> Ok then is there an update on Ubuntu for Hope? [18:40] <chesedo> paddatrapper: tareq is from somewhre in asia and only Kilos has contact with him... [18:40] <superfly> sorry, busy with some other things [18:40] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:40] <Maaz> superfly: Alrighty [18:40] <chesedo> Kapanda has not been around in a while [18:40] <paddatrapper> Wonder how Kilos is doing... Hasn't been online today at all [18:41] <chesedo> paddatrapper: I do not know if we have any... [18:41] * chesedo also wonders [18:41] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed magespawn still needs a wiki page, Kapanda hasn't been seen in a while and Kilos is the only one with contact with Kapanda [18:41] <Maaz> Agreed: magespawn still needs a wiki page, Kapanda hasn't been seen in a while and Kilos is the only one with contact with Kapanda [18:42] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed no update on Ubuntu for Hope [18:42] <Maaz> Agreed: no update on Ubuntu for Hope [18:42] <chesedo> kmf: any events planned for Ubuntu for Hope that we can help with [18:42] <kmf> chesedo: ... [18:42] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Events [18:42] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events [18:42] <paddatrapper> I'll take that as no kmf :) [18:43] <kmf> chesedo: nothing major planned, but I want to organize a GLUG party [18:43] <kmf> paddatrapper: ... sorry my wife called ... she has OP status .... [18:43] <chesedo> kmf: sound exciting!!! [18:43] <kmf> chesedo: GLUG is 20 years old I think [18:43] <paddatrapper> kmf: No problem. That she does! [18:44] <paddatrapper> That's impressive [18:44] <kmf> chesedo: spoke to Ross Addis and he is keen to do something from a RedHat side :D [18:44] * paddatrapper has no idea how old CLUG is [18:44] <inetpro> good evening [18:44] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:44] <Maaz> inetpro: Done [18:44] <paddatrapper> hey inetpro [18:45] <chesedo> kmf: is this in the near future? [18:45] <kmf> chesedo: .... I hope so ... but he is busy now ... it's the RedHat forum [18:46] <kmf> @inetpro hello Oom Gustav [18:46] <paddatrapper> kmf: I take it GLUG is 20 y/o this year? [18:46] <kmf> paddatrapper: .... ja ... I think [18:47] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed kmf wants to organise a GLUG part sometime soon for what may be their 20th year [18:47] <Maaz> Agreed: kmf wants to organise a GLUG part sometime soon for what may be their 20th year [18:47] <inetpro> chesedo: sorry, I forgot to tweet about the meeting [18:47] <chesedo> inetpro: np [18:47] <paddatrapper> Anyone able to report back about devug that happend earlier this month? [18:47] <inetpro> kmf: good to see you here [18:47] * chesedo forgot to got all things ready late last week [18:48] <kmf> inetpro: my pleasure ... you look good have you lost some weight or is it my new font that makes you look smaller [18:48] <paddatrapper> lol [18:48] <inetpro> haha :) [18:49] <chesedo> paddatrapper: seemed like kulelu88 was interested in going, but do not know anything [18:49] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed no info about devug [18:49] <Maaz> Agreed: no info about devug [18:49] * chesedo rofl [18:49] <kmf> ;) [18:50] <paddatrapper> Ok then there are two events coming up - rubyfuza and devconf, anyone know more? [18:50] <paddatrapper> rubyfuza: 2-4 February 2017 Cape Town and devconf: 9 March, 2017, Johannesburg [18:50] <inetpro> sounds good [18:50] <kmf> paddatrapper: ... yes ... what about scaleconf? [18:51] <paddatrapper> kmf: I shall add it in! That's next month isn't it? [18:52] <shifter> Maaz: I am C Fleming [18:52] <Maaz> shifter: Okay [18:52] <paddatrapper> Scaleconf - 9-10 March, Cape Town [18:52] <paddatrapper> Kirstenbosch nog al! [18:53] <kmf> paddatrapper: yebo ... same time as devconf .... [18:53] <inetpro> anyone here been to previous scaleconf events? [18:54] <superfly> I went to ScaleConf 2013 [18:55] <paddatrapper> superfly: What's its focus? [18:55] <superfly> paddatrapper: mostly boasting about how much data they're processing [18:55] <chesedo> superfly: highpoint/best that you got from it? [18:56] <superfly> chesedo: anyone can process a lot of data if you have a lot of money [18:56] * superfly turns the sarcasm down a little [18:56] * paddatrapper wonders if SKA will present anything considering the volumes they process [18:56] <superfly> chesedo: the best talk, in my opinion, was actually my boss's [18:56] <superfly> paddatrapper: they did in 2013 [18:57] <superfly> they had some MS salesdrone present on Azure [18:57] <paddatrapper> As always [18:57] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed Rubyfuza: 2-4 February, Cape Town :: Scaleconf: 9-10 March, Cape Town :: Devconf: 9 March, Johannesburg [18:57] <Maaz> Agreed: Rubyfuza: 2-4 February, Cape Town :: Scaleconf: 9-10 March, Cape Town :: Devconf: 9 March, Johannesburg [18:58] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [18:58] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous [18:58] <paddatrapper> Anyone know anything about the Ubuntu education project? [18:58] <kmf> nope [18:59] <superfly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMofn2dKhA [18:59] <chesedo> same here [18:59] <superfly> (my boss's talk) [18:59] <paddatrapper> superfly: was about to ask, thanks [19:00] <paddatrapper> anything else anyone wants to bring up? [19:00] * inetpro don't remember seeing anything about Ubuntu education recently [19:01] * inetpro wondering whether highvoltage is still involved with edubuntu [19:01] <chesedo> inetpro: Kapanda and william are the main guys on it [19:01] <paddatrapper> inetpro: as far as I know, yes [19:01] <paddatrapper> in that I am redesigning stuff that he wants to include in it [19:01] <inetpro> nice [19:02] <inetpro> wb MaNI [19:02] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:02] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting [19:03] <paddatrapper> Next meeting 28 February 2017 @ 20:30 according to the agenda, is that fine? [19:03] <kmf> +1 [19:04] <inetpro> +1 [19:04] <chesedo> +1 [19:04] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 28 February 2017 @ 20:30 [19:04] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 28 February 2017 @ 20:30 [19:04] <paddatrapper> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:04] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:04] <MaNI> inetpro, thanks [19:04] <paddatrapper> Who feels like volunteering as tribute? [19:04] <paddatrapper> hey MaNI [19:04] * inetpro votes for paddatrapper [19:05] <kmf> me 2 [19:05] <paddatrapper> It's still before the start of term, so should be possible [19:05] <chesedo> inetpro: you are chickening out again :P [19:05] <paddatrapper> lol [19:05] <chesedo> I am also ok with that [19:06] <inetpro> chesedo: you guys are better than me [19:06] <paddatrapper> Maaz: agreed paddatrapper to chair next meeting [19:06] <Maaz> Agreed: paddatrapper to chair next meeting [19:06] <paddatrapper> Maaz: end meeting [19:06] <Maaz> Meeting Ended [19:06] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.html [19:06] <paddatrapper> Thanks everyone! [19:06] <inetpro> great job paddatrapper [19:06] <chesedo> awesomely done paddatrapper [19:07] <paddatrapper> thanks inetpro, chesedo [19:08] <inetpro> chesedo: my time is still too uncertain at this stage [19:08] <inetpro> life keeping me busy [19:08] <chesedo> inetpro: i'm just pooling your leg [19:09] <inetpro> good night everybody [19:09] <kmf> good night [19:10] <kmf> love you all [19:11] <chesedo> night inetpro kmf [19:20] <superfly> paddatrapper: you know what would be useful in ibid, an "INFO" for meetings === smile|bbl is now known as smile [19:36] <smile> bye! :) [19:53] <paddatrapper> superfly: yeah. There are a couple of things I'd like to pull from the Debconf bot like that