[00:00] <acheronuk> wxl: tsimonq2 broke alpha 2?
[00:06] <wxl> acheronuk: yep
[00:06] <valorie> :(
[00:07] <wxl> acheronuk: as you can see since he's in charge of Checklist Tracking, he should be doing the work to make sure the milestones are published https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseTaskSignup
[00:07] <wxl> so yes, tsimonq2 did break alpha 2, because he didn't fix it
[00:07] <wxl> indirect breakage
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[00:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: Life sucks.
[00:35] <wxl> tsimonq2: you got a boo boo?
[00:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yes and it hurts :(
[00:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: I pinged
[00:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: Now it's slangasek's fault :P
[00:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: And it's not End Of Day yet so I didn't break Alpha 2 yet
[00:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: So SHUSH :)
[00:37] <tsimonq2> In the meantime we should all test the daily (*AHEEEEEM* acheronuk clivejo valorie DarinMiller and the whole gang)
[00:37] <tsimonq2> (as in "Scooby and the Gang" :P)
[01:08]  * DarinMiller_ is zsync'ing daily now....
[01:12] <wxl> we should be getting milestones soon
[01:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: Thank you for poking me btw
[01:12] <wxl> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/371/builds
[01:22] <wxl> tsimonq2: the fact we're not seeing any images there is perhaps concerning. might want to check on that
[01:22] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/zesty/kubuntu
[01:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: I did...
[01:23] <tsimonq2> O_______________O
[01:24] <tsimonq2> Thanks a bunch acheronuk :)
[01:24] <acheronuk> that's where the daily gets build. not sure if the same
[01:25] <acheronuk> as I said to wxl earlier, there is an apt bug causing hash sum mismatches
[01:26] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Link to bug?
[01:27] <acheronuk> not got the backlog on this machine. Laney in mentioned the debian bug somewhere in ubuntu-devel
[01:29] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Can you please go link searching? You're The Best at it. :)
[01:30] <wxl> lubuntu just popped up
[01:30] <wxl> so that's a good sign
[01:30] <tsimonq2> Yeeeee
[01:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: Bottom of this log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/303755238/buildlog_ubuntu_zesty_amd64_kubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[01:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: What's the bug #?
[01:31]  * wxl shrugs
[01:31] <wxl> acheronuk said it first, so it's his fault :)
[01:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: We Need To Find The Bug Number
[01:31] <wxl> stupid icons too
[01:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: You're the RM, automatically makes you responsible
[01:31]  * tsimonq2 runs
[01:31] <acheronuk> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/01/24/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t15:30
[01:32] <acheronuk> http://bugs.debian.org/838441
[01:33] <wxl> wonder why not affecting lubuntu
[01:34] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: You're the best at that, as always. Thank you. :)
[01:35] <acheronuk> wxl: as lubuntu don't have plasma discover
[01:36] <wxl> acheronuk: that's where those images are form?
[01:36] <wxl> E: Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_zesty-security_main_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: I have juliank in a PM
[01:38] <acheronuk> discover is now installing /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/60plasma-discover
[01:39] <wxl> who dat
[01:39] <acheronuk> which is tripping that apt bug
[01:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: Perrson who hav da fix
[01:39] <wxl> tsimonq2: maek it be da güd
[01:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: büt gud fix be brek oter tings
[01:40] <acheronuk> new appstream now needs that debian merged discover -3 version with the icons patch
[01:40] <acheronuk> though maybe it could be temp dropped for the alpha
[01:41] <tsimonq2> 07:40:05 PM <juliank> I assume the kubuntu meta package enables the hidpi icons for appstream, I'd disable them for now, this should work around the issue  for unknown reasons
[01:41] <tsimonq2> wxl, acheronuk ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[01:41] <wxl> sounds good
[01:41] <tsimonq2> 07:41:25 PM <juliank> That's my WIP branch https://github.com/julian-klode/apt/tree/bugfix/838441-keep-uncompressedas-confusion
[01:42] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo: go inspect code ^^^^
[01:42] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:42] <tsimonq2> Oh and wxl too
[01:43] <acheronuk> yep. discover not the kubuntu meta is the trigger, but real fix would be in apt
[01:44] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo, wxl: make fix go vroom vroom please kthxbai :)
[01:44]  * acheronuk is going to sleep sleep, not vroom vroom anywhere
[01:45] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: You need red red bull bull to go vroom vroom?
[02:23] <DarinMiller_> Daily iso install was fairly smooth. Flash installer failed first time due to "too many levels of symbolic links".
[02:24] <DarinMiller_> Flash install icon appearred in tray awhile later and 2nd attempt was successful. ??? !!
[02:25] <DarinMiller_> I was also double prompted to install proprietary drivers. I installed after the 1st prompt, but received a 2nd sys tray prompting before rebooting.
[02:25] <DarinMiller_> Otherwise zz 17.04 daily install was a breeze.....
[02:26]  * DarinMiller_ no pun intended....
[02:26] <tsimonq2> Weeeeeeeeeeee
[02:41] <DarinMiller> One other note regarding zz daily install, kmserver logout crashed and forced reboot from terminal stalled requiring REISUB...
[02:42] <DarinMiller> Anybody else see the same issues?
[03:06] <tsimonq2> Ok I need sleep nini o/
[03:09] <DarinMiller> nite tsimonq2
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[10:04] <sitter> valorie, clivejo: FWIW, there are two things of note: a) packages are not covered by the CLA, so if one were to maintain the changeset as a patch it would not be subject to CLA requirements b) if you were to find someone to work on it and tell them the problems without showing them the code they'd not be deriving from my work and so it wouldn't matter anyaway (that being said my changes are fairly hackish in nature as there is no long term 
[10:04] <sitter> maintenance plan for ubiquity on my side)
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[12:39] <acheronuk> clivejo: made a start on k3b I see :)
[12:47] <clivejo> :P
[12:50] <soee> o/
[12:51] <clivejo> wanna see if its stable enough to try and get it into zesty
[13:01] <acheronuk> clivejo: as the KDE4 version of k3b version will no longer have the cd/cddb libs it needs because of the new apps libraries replacing them with Kf5 version, if we don't we are going to have drop k3b
[13:02] <clivejo> yup
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[13:16] <tsdgeos> acheronuk: or you can install two different versions :o
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[13:21] <acheronuk> tsdgeos: we would need to do some awkward stuff with renaming source packages packages to do that, which could leave us conflicting with what debian decide to do when they get to this.
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[13:21] <acheronuk> but it may be an option if it comes to that. a Kf5 k3d would be better though
[13:22] <acheronuk> *k3b
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[13:50] <clivejo> acheronuk: did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpgme1.0/+bug/1647204/comments/25
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[13:50] <clivejo> makes sense
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[13:52] <acheronuk> clivejo: yep, I saw. I will try a ppa build with that fix in a bit
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[15:13] <clivejo> who wote this KCI fixing?
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[15:27] <acheronuk> clivejo: tsdgeos .hmmmm.... gpgpme still hanging for ages with that patch. I'll leave it running, as maybe just maybe it will finish within the timeout, but not overly hopeful
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[15:53] <acheronuk> yofel_ clivejo: do you think packages like the old kdepim4 and baloo (KDE4) can now be removed from zesty? to have the new KF5 kdegraphics-mobipocket which KF5 okular depends on, would break that old kde4 stuff
[16:04] <clivejo> I dont know
 No kubuntu images still? I thought you got this fixed @tsimonq2
[16:10] <acheronuk> wxl: the 'fixed' apt seems to still be in proposed, with 1 or 2 tests left to finish running
[16:14] <acheronuk> clivejo: they are inevitably going to get killed sometime. just dunno if now is ok, and if we have to wait for debian or not
[16:15] <clivejo> looks like we need to wait on Debian
[16:15] <clivejo> otherwise someone will just sync them again!
[16:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: not sure on that. I think maybe some blocks on that if manually removed, but not 100% sure
 @wxl23, Working on it
 Chilllllll
 Firewall is going down at 24
 2300 sorry
 Ugh I'm going to lay down
[16:35] <acheronuk> a minute or 2 interruption on each service maybe, and everything back to normal by midnight
[16:35] <acheronuk> not too much trauma as long as it goes ok
[16:35]  * acheronuk hopes
[16:37] <acheronuk> clivejo: from a debiann and ubuntu dev on -release
[16:37] <acheronuk> [16:22] <acheronuk> can a source be removed from zesty if it's still in debian unstable? and if so, if there any protection from someone trying to be helpful and re-syncing it?
[16:37] <acheronuk> [16:22] <mapreri> AFAIK yes on both, but nothing can stop somebody from manually uploading it.
[16:38] <acheronuk> and on the stuff that matters, when new KF5 stuff is there, anyone trying to upload the old would probably not have much luck
[16:57] <acheronuk> tsdgeos: new apt seems to be migrating
[16:57] <tsdgeos> ¿?
[16:57] <acheronuk> tsimonq2 I mean ^^^
[16:58] <acheronuk> sorry
 Up to an hour for services through
 acheronuk and @wxl23: When that migrates (please make sure it does!) respin ASAP please and thank you :)
 Link me acheronuk
 Plz 😆
[17:20] <acheronuk> I'l running zesty on this machine, using the main http://archive.ubuntu.com/ mirrors, and I just got the new apt to install in the release pocket of zesty main :)
[17:21] <acheronuk> so seems to be there on the main mirror
 Ah so I should respin?
[17:21] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt
 Looks like it
[17:22] <acheronuk> well, it's on the main mirror. if the iso's use another or a cache I suppose it may lag, but I'd hope they spin direct from the main
 Well let me give it a go
[17:29] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[17:29] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
 Rebuilding
[17:32] <acheronuk> clivejo: that patch did not fix gpgme
 :(
 Sounded like a solution
 How do I need to fix gpgme? :P
[18:03] <acheronuk> make it build
[18:03] <acheronuk> on launchpad
[18:04] <acheronuk> without cheating
 Define "cheating" :P
[18:05] <acheronuk> hacking out or otherwise disabling the hanging test
 Challenge accepted
[18:07] <acheronuk> tfor starters
[18:11] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] has been updated (20170125.3)
[18:11] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] has been updated (20170125.3)
 Builds up
 !testers | go test alpha2!
 Bag
 !testers
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[18:19] <acheronuk> !testers
 Thx
[18:20] <acheronuk> ubottu is clearly jealous of other bots
[18:20] <acheronuk> never claimed you were ^^^^
[18:20] <BluesKaj> pong
[18:21] <acheronuk> alpha2 candidate builds to test :) http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/371/builds
[18:30]  * BluesKaj wgets
[18:36] <marco-parillo> Thanks BluesKaj I assume that was in response to: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/371/builds
[18:38] <wxl> BluesKaj: my suggestion is to zsync but to each their own
[18:46] <acheronuk> good start. slideshow says "thank you for choosing kubuntu 16.10"
[18:46] <wxl> that often happens with milestones
[18:46] <wxl> still might need a bug report to remind us
[18:51] <BluesKaj> wxl, tried zsync, it's no faster than wget here with the html 
[18:51] <wxl> BluesKaj: it's not about speed but integrity
[18:52] <BluesKaj> yeah, but I usually don't have that problem
[18:52] <wxl> until you do :)
[18:53] <BluesKaj> had more probs with zsync, drop outs etc causing integrity probs as you callit
[18:53] <wxl> it's got the same built in protection as torrents
[18:53] <wxl> which is not to say that network issues don't happen
[18:54] <wxl> they CAN happen on anything
[18:54] <BluesKaj> exactly
[18:54] <wxl> assuming such issues don't happen, there's no integrity checking in wget that i know of
[18:55] <marco-parillo> Hmm I am getting a black screen, but I do have the panel at the bottom. The kicker can load Firefox. If I type install to the kicker, it starts the installation program.
[18:56] <wxl> in a vm marco-parillo ?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> so if something goes wrong I'll just try again, but I'm sure from experience the DL will be fine
[18:57] <marco-parillo> wxl: Yes, Virtual Box, Win 7 host/
[18:58] <wxl> marco-parillo: mayhap try the usual grub settings like nomodeset or whatever. you also might want to check dmesg, syslog, and/or Xorg.0.log and see if there are any clues as to what's going on
[19:01] <clivejo> hummmm
[19:01] <clivejo> kdeconnect is broken :/
[19:03] <clivejo> I do like the progress bar on the task buttons in plasma 5.9
[19:07] <acheronuk> ok in virualbox here
[19:07] <acheronuk> plasma-discover is broke
[19:07] <clivejo> something about remote keyboard
[19:07] <acheronuk> shows no applications at all
[19:07] <clivejo> but I think thats a new feature
[19:08] <wxl> so you're having the same problems as marco-parillo ?
[19:08] <wxl> ?
[19:08] <acheronuk> me?
[19:09] <wxl> yes
[19:09] <acheronuk> wxl: nope. plasma is fine
[19:09] <acheronuk> plasma-discover is broke
[19:09] <wxl> oh k
[19:17] <marco-parillo> Clicking on the slide show link to contribute did not seem to launch a web browser, but the installer seemed to complete successfully. I should be able to re-boot in a couple of hours when I get home. Also I can try on real HW then.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/sDgf0nCZ/file_1823.jpg
 Niceee
[20:26] <acheronuk> clivejo: new packagekit in debian https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/packagekit
[20:26] <acheronuk> so maybe that might help?
[20:28] <clivejo> maybe
[20:28] <clivejo> not sure whats up with it
[20:29] <acheronuk> it didn't work here before the latest appstream or merge with debian, so can't blame those, but I though that was just this machine
[20:29] <acheronuk> clearly not
[20:30] <clivejo> did those last apps Rohan uploaded get in ok, or still waiting in the new queue?
[20:32] <acheronuk> what would you guess?
[20:33] <clivejo> in regards?
[20:33] <acheronuk> if they are still in the new queue or not?
[20:34] <acheronuk> ok. they are still stuck there
[20:34] <clivejo> well we have a love queue
[20:35] <clivejo> lovely
[20:35] <clivejo> nice to pile up more and go nowhere
[20:37]  * acheronuk pours a glass of something nice
[21:07] <BluesKaj> ok , wxl, acheronuk beta installled all 980packages  -1 , partitionmanager balked so i removed it and the rest od the install succeeded
[21:17] <clivejo> Beta?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> claydoh, maube I'm mistaken,. thaouht i saw veta in there somewhere anyway what I installed was a daily http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/371/builds/141474/downloads
[21:30] <BluesKaj> clivejo,^ , sorry claydoh, wrong nick
[21:30] <clivejo> you you mean the Alpha 2?
[21:30] <BluesKaj> ok alpha 2 then 
[21:31] <BluesKaj> 980 some packages
[21:33] <BluesKaj> anyway I have go...seems ok so far altho i don't use network-manager or pulseaudio ..partitonmanager had to be removed to errors
[22:00] <mparillo> OK, clean installs of both 64 and 32 bit to VMs.
[22:00] <mparillo> On real HW, I burned a USB and booted fine on my HP EliteBook that had Kubuntu on it, but kernel panics on my t410 with Manjaro.
[22:01] <mparillo> I have had trouble dual booting Manjaro and Kubuntu (I am too much of a newbie to keep both on the same drive), but I was surprised to see it when booting from the USB thumb drive. I would have guessed it would not look at GRUB on my main drive.
[22:38] <mparillo> In a VM, executing the 32-bit encrypted version, it almost completes, and then gives me Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.
[22:42] <mparillo> Will try 64-bit
[22:46] <tsimonq2> mparillo: s/64-bit/amd64/
[22:46]  * tsimonq2 runs
 Good
 Same thing really
[22:49] <tsimonq2> No they aren't, actually.
[22:49] <tsimonq2> Both amd64 and i386 are 54-bit.
[22:49] <tsimonq2> s/54/64/
 Oh stop
[22:49] <tsimonq2> Go look it up...
[22:49] <tsimonq2> I won't spend my time arguing with you about facts
[22:50] <mamarley> Many i386 implementations have certain 64-bit aspects (such as a 64-bit data bus), but i386 processors definitely do not have 64-bit general purpose registers, which are usually used to define the bitness of a processor.
[22:51] <mparillo> Minor inconsistency when setting the LVM Encryption Password. As soon as both match, the Continue Button lights. But, when you set your username and password, if you mis-match you are not told about it until you click on the continue.
[22:51] <mparillo> I know there is additional information you COULD add later, but paper-cut.
[23:00] <mparillo> I got the same Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed in a VM, this time AMD64 Encrypted test case.