[01:43] <diddledan> this is reassuring: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/824069134363332608
[02:02] <diddledan> emergency! kittens! https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/824074862981500929
[07:28] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, morning
[09:09] <SuperMatt> good morning
[09:09] <SuperMatt> WFH day today :D
[09:10] <davmor2> SuperMatt: I almost always do :)  I sometimes work from the caravan too :)
[09:10] <davmor2> SuperMatt: the commute is aweful right
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> heard of someone who worked during their commute and that time was taken into consideration so an hour each way commute meant only 6 hours in the office per day...
[09:53] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy A Room Of One’s Own Day! 😃
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> i'd cheer but i'd wake up a bunch of people... :-P
[09:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Q3mHyzn78
[10:33] <SuperMatt> oooh, I'd love a room of my own, but the cat and wife have differenr ideas
[10:34] <zmoylan-pi> you just need to set the cat against the wife and while they're fighting go off and find a quiet corner... :-P
[10:34] <SuperMatt> They love each other too much
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> never said it would be easy...
[10:36] <SuperMatt> It couldn't happen, I'ms sure of it
[10:37] <foobarry> can anyone see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180652 please?
[10:37] <zmoylan-pi> what i'm hearing is that they're so tight that they must be plotting against you... :-P
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> 'you are not authorised to access bug #'...
[10:39] <foobarry> my login doesn't seem to work with the bugzilla
[10:43] <awilkins> Is there an Ubuntu / Canonical team that has overall responsibility for VPN?
[11:13] <SuperMatt> I'm sure they just pull from upstream projects
[11:41] <diplo> Hey guys, if you were to change /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[11:41] <diplo> would you use sysctl or echo value > /proc/sys....
[11:41] <diplo> ?
[11:41] <diplo> Just a temp test
[11:42] <SuperMatt> I think both would work
[11:43] <SuperMatt> I would do sysctl myself, because chances are I want it to persist
[11:43] <SuperMatt> and I'd write it to /ect/sysctl.conf (or whatever)
[11:43] <diplo> yeah it's a issue with our software so it's a quick test on a customer site
[11:43] <diplo> Doesn't happen on any other site
[11:43] <diplo> Will try sysctl :) thanks
[11:47] <foobarry> need a new dishwasher, any recs? needs to be slim
[11:49] <zmoylan-pi> ...and run linux? :-P
[11:50] <diplo> OK to add to the question above, pid_max - anyone know how the max is calculated? I've got different values on different systems
[11:50] <diplo> Combination of proc / memory ?
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> if i was going for an appliance like a dishwasher i'd be looking at which magazine survey ratings instead of single ancedotes.  just my 2c
[11:56] <diplo> +1 - I sold my dishwasher, prefer handwashing
[11:56] <diplo> Apart from dinner parties :P
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> that's when you serve fish and let the cat lick everything clean before boiling it all... :-P
[12:01] <foobarry> weirdo
[12:02] <diplo> hah, my wife always asked why I hand washed, I think our dishwasher was rubbish tbh, but it got me away from her as well :)
[12:03] <foobarry> i do think dishwashing is a sign of a marriage under strain
[12:03] <diplo> Well we are divorced :P
[12:03] <foobarry> QED
[12:03] <diplo> But I actually don't mind doing it, my girlfriend uses a dishwasher and her plates / glasses never seem as clean as if you hand wash them
[12:30] <SuperMatt> If they aren't coming out as clean in the dishwasher, then you're over loading it, or not topping up the salt
[12:31] <diplo> I did suggest that to her :) but I decided not to pursue it
[12:31] <zmoylan-pi> then the dishwasher should be able to point that out
[12:31] <diplo> Much preffered solution zmoylan-pi
[12:31] <diplo> :P
[12:32] <diplo> Anyone got a redhat access portal login ?
[12:32] <diplo> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/874023
[12:32] <SuperMatt> The wife and I live alone, but we have made sure we have enough plates, etc, to last us a few days until the dish washer is full, and then we put it on
[12:32] <SuperMatt> The mother in law does about 3 loads a day. Don't know how
[12:32] <diplo> Oh my! I couldn't wait that long
[12:32] <zmoylan-pi> solution: paper plates :-)
[12:33] <diplo> I wash as I cook/complete then wash up as the kids finish
[12:33] <SuperMatt> I will rinse as I go along, and put things in to the dishwasher then
[12:34] <SuperMatt> but my wife is a "soaker"
[12:34] <SuperMatt> it always makes me shudder
[12:34] <SuperMatt> I don't mind something being left to soak, but if it has been left for more than half an hour, it's not going to make any more difference
[12:35] <diplo> I'm a soaker for 5 mins whilst I do something else, like my water red hot
[12:35] <diplo> God are we getting old!!!! :(
[12:36] <SuperMatt> I know, I have a wife and a mortage, both things I didn't have 2 years ago when I left my twenties behind
[12:37] <diplo> Well I am old then if you're in your twenties ( obviously not as old as popey though! )
[12:37] <diplo> :P
[12:37] <foobarry> SuperMatt: do rackspace offer managed windows servers?
[12:37] <foobarry> where they patch and look after SQL server dbs etc?
[12:40] <SuperMatt> I don't work for RS any more, but yes, they do
[12:40] <foobarry> i know :P
[12:40] <foobarry> any idea on pricing, or wasn't your area...
[12:40] <SuperMatt> wasn't my area at all
[12:40] <SuperMatt> but more expensive than linux
[12:40] <foobarry> sure
[12:41] <SuperMatt> I think you can get managed DBs from Rackspace too
[12:41] <foobarry> thanks
[12:41] <foobarry> that'll do
[12:41] <SuperMatt> and some may say that's preferable
[12:51] <diplo> Who do you guys use for dynamic dns ?
[13:09] <daftykins> no-ip here
[13:10] <daftykins> diplo: although the last domain i bought from namecheap.com allows dynamic update from a client utility, so that could work too
[13:16] <diplo> I've been thinking buying a domain specifically for it yeah, I guess if I can get dhclient to work with it that would do
[13:17] <diplo> Wonder if any of the other registrars allow that
[13:17] <diplo> no-ip wants you to renew monthly doesn't it.. I think that's who I am with now, keep forgetting to do it, quite happy to pay a small sum or may just script something myself
[13:19] <foobarry> dyndns is $40 pa
[13:19] <foobarry> sounds a lot
[13:20] <daftykins> they don't do a free account anymore, but no-ip do.
[13:20] <daftykins> diplo: just pay no-ip the $25 USD for a year then :>
[13:22] <diplo> Yeah, thought about it.. but for what I get/want I was thinking more like a tenner :D - Just reading up whether I can update 123-reg or gandi with an api :P
[13:22] <diplo> Oooh I can with digital ocean I think! ooh!
[13:22] <popey> diplo: THANKS! :D
[13:23] <daftykins> o0
[13:23] <diplo> heheh
[13:23] <diplo> Someone has beaten me to it daftykins - Shell script ahoy
[13:23] <daftykins> every time i've tried to use a dynamic DNS updater on an ubuntu server with repo packages, they've all been utterly useless
[13:24] <diplo> yes, which is why I wanted something else daftykins
[13:25] <diplo> I had an issue with afraid.org because of dhclient on the version of ubuntu I was on and my router didn't support it
[13:25] <daftykins> yeah i just wanted to share just how rubbish they are and see whether anyone else had encountered the same
[13:30] <daftykins> seems to be my experience of universe packages :P
[13:30] <daftykins> "oh neat i found an appropriate program... oh it doesn't work"
[13:33] <SuperMatt> I've just moved my DNS to digital ocean. I needed 20 zones, but they limit you to 10. Despite being a saturday morning, I sitll got an upgrade
[13:33] <SuperMatt> digital ocean have their heads screwed on
[13:34] <SuperMatt> The limit is only so they don't get people creating accounts and registering a million spammy domains
[13:39] <diplo> Ah right I see, I may move all my stuff over to, see how  Iget on with this dns :P
[14:09] <diplo> And success! The one I found was old api but fix0red it now \o/
[14:13] <diddledan> Bryan Lunduke "The Lunduke Hour: You put Linux on THAT?!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlBS66kd3JE (some swearing)
[14:16] <SuperMatt> that reminds me, is it the time of year for Lunduke's Why Linux Sucks talk?
[14:16] <daftykins> diddledan: i am confused, this hour seems to be 30 mins long
[14:16] <diddledan> yeah I spotted that, too
[15:39] <diddledan> Blessed are they who just can't even, for they shall be able to. https://twitter.com/JesusOfNaz316/status/824247461325639680
[15:44] <diplo> Now with SSL certificate - woohoo!
[15:46] <diddledan> \o/
[15:46] <diplo> Onlu took me an hour and 3/4 :D
[15:46] <m0nkey_> 9:50 am On FedEx vehicle for delivery .. *squeals*
[15:46] <diplo> Learning ssl was hard :P
[15:47] <diddledan> I still haven't learnt SSL - it's all binary gibberish that I can't decipher
[15:47] <m0nkey_> diddledan, that's because you don't have the key
[15:47] <diddledan> it's almost like they're talking in code
[15:47] <diddledan> m0nkey_: we'll lose you to the machine later today then? :-p
[15:48] <m0nkey_> yes, I am entering the matrix
[15:48] <m0nkey_> as soon as it's arrived and setup
[15:49] <diplo> Created a LE cert on my VPS and then copied it down, next thing to do is to automate the renewal process and then get it to sftp it to the correct directory and check perms on update
[16:13] <diplo> https://github.com/andy-partington/shell_scripts/ if anyone wants to use the DO dynamic thing
[16:13] <diplo> Going to tidy the code up eventually
[16:29] <diddledan> how you respond to twitter - two images, one when you first join, the other after a few years: https://twitter.com/furrygirl/status/824129821273976832
[16:30] <diddledan> daftykins: notice I've been trying to explain my links better the past couple of days? :-)
[16:40] <daftykins> diddledan: i'm so proud, it brings a tear to my eye!
[16:40] <m0nkey_> FEDEX!!
[16:40] <diddledan> \o/
[16:41] <daftykins> i'll have you know i never fed the ex
[16:41] <m0nkey_> MY VIVE!
[16:42] <diddledan> daftykins: is that why they're now "ex"?
[16:43] <daftykins> oh tux you went and did it eh :P
[16:43] <daftykins> you silly billy!
[16:44] <daftykins> diddledan: lies, there's no correlation!
[17:20] <m0nkey_> Would it be wrong of me to admit I'm squealing like a little bitch right now? :)
[17:21] <diddledan> no, the squealing is wrong, though
[17:21] <daftykins> glad you're enjoying it, but we'll see how long it lasts
[17:22] <m0nkey_> daftykins, not even plugged it in yet. it's got to get to room temperature
[17:22] <diddledan> how long until you knock yourself out by headbutting your desk?
[17:22] <daftykins> hehe
[17:22] <daftykins> i think he has his own padded room!
[18:15] <m0nkey_> OH MY DEAR GOD. THAT IS AWESOME
[18:18] <KrimZon> #
[18:18] <KrimZon> oops
[21:19] <diddledan> m0nkey_: did you lean on the pool-table yet?
[21:20] <daftykins> :D
[21:20] <diddledan> ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLhlHvIajpk
[21:21] <daftykins> might as well get a pint in and lean on the bar </Only Fools>
[21:29] <m0nkey_> diddledan, not yet
[21:29] <m0nkey_> been doing some zombie training and playing in the lab
[22:15] <danielthebague> Hi folks, whats the news or status for the BQ e4.5 ubuntu phone?
[22:45] <daftykins> danielthebague: wrong channel
[22:45] <daftykins> !phone
[22:45] <danielthebague> yeah already switched to touch channel
[22:45] <daftykins> good stuff
[22:45] <danielthebague> thanks
[22:46] <danielthebague> Just out of interest is anyone in the not so near future  going to purchase a ubuntu phone handset, hopefully this isn't a sore topic