| cmaloney | morning | 11:54 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h | Morning | 12:05 |
| shakes808 | morning | 14:26 |
| * rick_h hates being at dealerships with the tvs always on loud on news | 14:28 | |
| jrwren | rick_h: simple solution: sell your cars. :p | 14:29 |
| rick_h | jrwren: going to be hard to get the 10,000lb trailer to VA that way | 14:29 |
| * jrwren was last at a dealer when car was purchased 2 yrs ago. ;) | 14:29 | |
| jrwren | rick_h: a little pain now for a lot of pleasure later, eh? | 14:31 |
| rick_h | jrwren: definitely | 14:32 |
| rick_h | jrwren: on the brain since we were spending time last night looking at spring break plans to head to VA and maybe stop in the TN smokies on the way back | 14:32 |
| * rick_h turns on noise cancelling and puts the music on to drown out the news | 14:33 | |
| shakes808 | rick_h: are you the only one in the sound booth? just turn it down.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 14:35 |
| jrwren | time to carry a tv-b-gone? | 14:37 |
| jrwren | bonus if yout built it yourself. | 14:37 |
| jrwren | double bonus if it has wifi and runs ubuntu-core | 14:37 |
| jrwren | tripple bonus if it runs ubuntu unstead. ;) | 14:38 |
| rick_h | shakes808: heh, no there's 7 or 8 folks here all sitting in front of the tv riveted | 14:38 |
| * rick_h is off to the side laptop'ing away | 14:38 | |
| shakes808 | jrwren: https://media.giphy.com/media/qqzOG3rgcqXbW/giphy.gif | 14:39 |
| shakes808 | rick_h: gotcha, that sucks. | 14:39 |
| rick_h | meh, I'm just whining | 14:39 |
| shakes808 | Then maybe you need you need that "tv-b-gone" solution I just posted :) | 14:39 |
| brousch__ | I find this career path very interesting. Leveraging PYthon skills without the web crap, for science! https://www.datacamp.com/community/blog/web-development-data-science#gs.IOEePfg | 14:42 |
| jrwren | shakes808: lol | 14:42 |
| jrwren | brousch__: that is funny. I did python without the web for many many years before I ever did python for the web. | 14:42 |
| rick_h | it's one of hte things I <3 about python is that it's skills you can use for anything | 14:44 |
| brousch__ | Yeah, but it's hard to find non-web Python jobs right now. We actually have some here, but it's considered legacy code and is moving to Go. | 14:46 |
| jrwren | poor python. people under the false impression that go is better and faster. | 14:46 |
| brousch__ | Concurrency is the issue sited here. | 14:47 |
| brousch__ | Spinning up a ton of Python processes to talk to redis | 14:47 |
| jrwren | there are so many great python solutions for that, moving to go is foolish. | 14:51 |
| brousch__ | It also kind of sucks that we're stuck on Python 2.7, because of Salt | 14:52 |
| jrwren | that does suck. | 14:53 |
| brousch__ | Moving a bunch of stuff to Xenial and systemd right now | 14:53 |
| jrwren | I used fabric. I never used salt. | 14:53 |
| jrwren | but, if salt is only for deploying, can't you use python 3 for your apps and still deploy it with python2? | 14:54 |
| brousch__ | We could, but like I said, the Python apps are considered legacy | 14:54 |
| * jrwren shakes head | 14:55 | |
| jrwren | i really dislike this industry, the older I get. | 14:55 |
| jrwren | I should have been a doctor or a lawyer and just programmed for hobby. | 14:55 |
| brousch__ | Doctors and lawyers will be replaced by Watson | 14:56 |
| brousch__ | jrwren: Are you still at Canonical, working on Juju? | 14:57 |
| rick_h | I could never have been a doctor | 14:57 |
| rick_h | turns out...I hate people | 14:57 |
| rick_h | especially stupid ones. I'd never get a patient base. | 14:57 |
| * shakes808 agrees | 14:57 | |
| rick_h | "oh quit your fussing...are you dead yet?" | 14:57 |
| brousch__ | Funeral director? | 14:57 |
| jrwren | brousch__: yes, still here, working with rick :) | 14:58 |
| rick_h | wheee | 15:00 |
| brousch__ | Isn't that written in Go? | 15:00 |
| jrwren | brousch__: it was originally python. it was rewritten in go. IMO this was a mistake. | 15:01 |
| _stink_ | brousch__++ | 15:01 |
| jrwren | brousch__: I'm monday morning quarterbacking. I've no insight into the history of that decision. My opinion is mine and mine alone :) | 15:01 |
| brousch__ | I appreciate your opinion. You have a lot of experience in this realm | 15:03 |
| jrwren | brousch__: I've made python go very fast. both for CPU bound and for IO bound applications. pypy and cython for the cpu bound stuff. pycurl for the io bound stuff. | 15:05 |
| shakes808 | PHP question, if anyone knows. I am seeing this -> http://pastebin.com/BuiSXxEV What is the \SimpleXMLElement? I can't find any references why there is a \ preceding the Class name. | 15:06 |
| jrwren | tuning uwsgi for the web stuff. It is amazing how fast you can actually make it go. | 15:06 |
| jrwren | shakes808: google is your friend. "php simplexmlelement" first link: http://php.net/manual/en/class.simplexmlelement.php | 15:07 |
| jrwren | or, in my case, duckduckgo. | 15:07 |
| jrwren | shakes808: same thing for backslash: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=php+new+operator+backslash&atb=v32-7b_&ia=qa | 15:07 |
| shakes808 | jrwren: thank you. i think i wasn't getting anything because i searching literally \SimpleXMLElement and \ in the search instead of typing out "backslash" ... :| I see it with the namespace\foo, but haven't seen it with just \namespace before. | 15:14 |
| jrwren | shakes808: afaik, that tells it the root namespace. | 15:15 |
| jrwren | shakes808: and since namespaces are newer in php, most things are in the root namespace | 15:15 |
| shakes808 | jrwren: makes sense. thank you | 15:17 |
| rick_h | has anyone else's twitter feed turned into just a maas of depression? | 15:53 |
| * rick_h has to close it...too much | 15:53 | |
| jrwren | yes | 15:53 |
| _stink_ | Melancholy as a Service? | 15:53 |
| jrwren | especially this morning. | 15:53 |
| cmaloney | rick_h: Yes | 15:56 |
| jcastro | jrwren: ping | 16:03 |
| jrwren | jcastro: pong. On a call. I was planning to lyft there and get there on time. | 16:07 |
| jcastro | ok, omw. | 16:08 |
| brousch__ | Hm, shouldn't this page show Ubuntu 16.10 by default? https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop | 16:17 |
| jrwren | brousch__: scroll down. it is there? LTS is apparently prefered. | 16:19 |
| rick_h | yea, LTS is the default for most things | 16:19 |
| brousch__ | That seems strange for the Desktop page | 16:19 |
| rick_h | I guess desktop might be ok to not be...but meh | 16:19 |
| rick_h | that is a giant space down the page from 16.04 to 16.10 | 16:20 |
| rick_h | would be nice to get that closer together imo | 16:20 |
| brousch__ | Yeah, I didn't even seen it until jrwren mentioned it | 16:20 |
| brousch__ | They gave me a Windows desktop at work to go along with my Windows laptop. I might as well nuke the desktop and try some Ubuntus | 16:25 |
| jrwren | if it is windows 10, try ubuntu for windows. | 16:26 |
| brousch__ | Ew | 16:29 |
| brousch__ | It will basically be for running vagrant+virtualbox | 16:29 |
| brousch__ | It's win7 | 16:29 |
| jrwren | ah, the best windows | 16:31 |
| brousch__ | ++ | 16:32 |
| brousch__ | Xubuntu is the bizomb | 21:14 |
| jrwren | +1 I love Xubuntu | 22:18 |
| jrwren | I think it is my favorite Ubuntu flavor. | 22:18 |
| jrwren | I've not ruled out lubuntu just yet either. | 22:18 |
| greg-g | some days working from home where within the immediate 2 next door neighbors there are a total of 6 boys (8mos - 7 years) is a bit tough. | 22:24 |
| greg-g | bulk of them (4) are 5-7 | 22:24 |
| jrwren | so they can go outside and play and be out of your hair? | 22:24 |
| jrwren | jcastro got me checking for att fiber like what what waht... click click click... NOOOoooo!!! | 22:25 |
| greg-g | just got them out there :) | 22:25 |
| greg-g | one was up next to my office door screaming into a walkie talkie "CAN YOU HEAR ME?!" I went out and said "You're talking into a walkie talkie, you don't need to scream." "OK" he says. then proceeds to scream more. | 22:25 |
| greg-g | kids man | 22:26 |
| _stink_ | haha | 22:26 |
| _stink_ | my 4 year old does that | 22:26 |
| jrwren | take walkie talkie away. | 22:27 |
| jrwren | tell kid to leave the building. | 22:27 |
| jrwren | I am not a popular dad. :) | 22:27 |
| greg-g | :) I didn't do #1, but did #2 | 22:27 |
| _stink_ | rage smash walkie talkie? | 22:27 |
| jrwren | _stink_: yes... or... consider yourself very patient and self controlled for not rage smashing walkie talkie | 22:27 |
| _stink_ | win win | 22:27 |
| rick_h | greg-g: is there was a close by coworking space I'd be in air at least a few times a week | 23:43 |
| rick_h | Always fun when the boys go nuts all over | 23:44 |
| greg-g | yeah, there's one downtown, just about 7 blocks away, I haven't yet even priced them | 23:44 |
| cmaloney | We priced one over by us for when we lived in our old place | 23:51 |
| cmaloney | so JoDee could have an actual office space | 23:51 |
| cmaloney | It was a bit pricey, and they seemed hot on the whole "office vibe" | 23:51 |
| cmaloney | wherein people would randomly talk to other people | 23:51 |
| cmaloney | Wonder if you can rent a storage locker cheaper. | 23:52 |
| jrwren | sounds like the ones around here. | 23:52 |
| cmaloney | "Yes, I'd like a 12x12 with a fiber connection" | 23:52 |
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