[00:33] <bluesabre> ochosi, never understood the locking myself
[00:35] <knome> lol
[06:14] <Unit193> bluesabre: Any progress? :P
[07:32] <flocculant> ochosi: :)
[07:50] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre I guess we are back where we were last cycle - do we ditch l-l and use something else like xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver
[07:51] <flocculant> Unit193: thanks for reminding me - I think g-s is what I was misrembering as unity-greeter 6 months ago
[07:52] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre - even assuming we get l-l working this cycle, that's now two cycles it's stopped working completely on us
[07:57] <Unit193> VT switching is bad.
[08:32] <flocculant>  nix g-s - problems there - will detail later
[10:43] <bluesabre> morning all
[10:45] <bluesabre> flocculant, ochosi, As light-locker is in a perpetual state of non-maintenance, VT-switching is terrible, and breaking is typical at least every 6 months, I am totally in favor of switching to something else
[11:02] <bluesabre> Unit193, current opinion on file managers? I still think there's not a patch that actually fixes the issues without creating new ones in Thunar
[11:06] <Unit193> bluesabre: I'll have to consider that at a better time perhaps, but I think I'm personally going to stick with Thunar.
[11:06] <bluesabre> ok
[11:20] <akxwi-dave> hmm a few hours ago we had Zesty A2 on the iso tracker.. now when I go to put up the testing results its gone...
[11:26] <bluesabre> akxwi-dave, maybe flocculant pulled it off since I don't think we were planning on participating
[11:27] <Unit193> [02:29:11] < flocculant> can someone from the release team get Xubuntu removed from this alpha 2 thing please :)
[11:30] <akxwi-dave> lol.. typical..   :-)
[11:32] <akxwi-dave> should have checked.. I thought we were doing A2, but when I saw it .. thought That it had been added for some reason I missed  :-)
[12:18] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: even if it was there we would need to critically fail and not release anyway :p
[12:19] <flocculant> bluesabre: ack - I did do a quick test on g-s but problems there - not got time to look properly now but will thi evening
[12:19] <flocculant> will also check if gnome actually locks ... 
[12:20] <flocculant> and will check x-screensaver too
[13:18] <akxwi-dave> aye just tested that suspend on the iso from today..same
[16:56] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi - ok done some testing - the outlook is poor ... pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-locking-zesty
[17:00] <flocculant> I'll try and let r_a know later this evening what I've tried
[19:59] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [cont1704] r628 Changes to contributor docs following review (by flocculant)
[20:53] <pleia2> http://xubuntu.org/news/winners-lovexubuntu-competition/
[20:53] <pleia2> :D
[20:54] <knome> \o/
[20:58] <pleia2> all social media-ed
[20:58] <knome> hooray
[20:59] <ochosi> flocculant: meh, have you forwarded this also to robert? to me this clearly shows that at least wrt light-locker it's a lightdm problem as the greeter wasnt touched. also: when it works, it seems to work best...
[20:59] <knome> :)
[21:00] <flocculant> ochosi: not specifically - have added it all to the bug though
[21:01] <flocculant> and yea - as you say - seems to definitely point to a lightdm problem
[21:04] <flocculant> have specifically now - I kept looking for him then stopped :p
[21:07] <flocculant> Ask logind to terminate remaining processes in the greeter session on closing, which is more robust than trying to fix every greeter.
[21:07] <flocculant> just broke us ...
[21:10] <ochosi> :]
[21:11] <flocculant> ochosi: as far as I can see now - I'll leave it be, unless I happen to stumble across something, and just wait and see 
[21:11] <ochosi> sure
[21:12] <flocculant> not much of anything I could do now - tried greeters, tried losing l-lock and adding others
[21:13] <ochosi> yeah, i think you've done your job well
[21:13] <ochosi> in the worst case we have to try to fix up the greeter
[21:13] <ochosi> bluesabre: ^
[21:43] <flocculant> budgie is broken too ... 
[21:49] <flocculant> I didn't try the kde one nor unity8 but I've beaten my head against the rest :p