[00:05] so, I just plugged my laptop into a monitor (via VGA). and the task bar (task manager) disappeared. When I go in to "add widgets" it says there is still one there, but I can't get to it [00:05] suggestions? [00:05] I tried also adding a new one, but it is super tiny and floating in the middle of the desktop for some reason and I can't remove it [01:42] hi [01:42] so so so weird... [01:42] I have two hard drives, both are mounted yet... both have the same drive designation (/dev/sdd, and the other is /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdd2... what gives?) [01:42] s/have/get assiged === gordo is now known as gordo_ === gordo_ is now known as max6698 [02:15] <[Relic]> sounds more like partitions on a single drive like sda1/sda2/sda3 sdb1/sdb2 etc. [04:08] Does anyone one know how I can save the passpharse for my ssh key [04:16] ? [04:51] !ssh [04:51] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [04:51] luis_: ^^^ === nic_ is now known as shortstheory [05:10] !info keychain [05:10] keychain (source: keychain): key manager for OpenSSH. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0.1 (yakkety), package size 26 kB, installed size 80 kB [05:11] luis_: I tend to use that [05:30] <[Relic]> any wayland instructions / debug how-to type of pages for 16.10? [05:33] <[Relic]> when I try to use wayland plasma it just blinks and goes back to the login screen, so looking for some slightly more indepth ideas for figuring it out or debugging [05:35] [Relic]: during euro-work hours, please ask the plasma devels in #plasma [05:35] or even #kwin [05:35] they want lots and lots of tester [05:35] s [05:36] and debugging [05:38] <[Relic]> can't test or debug if it just blinks and returns to the login screen [05:47] <[Relic]> I think I should just go back to 14.04 and stop playing with this stuff. === jayhunold is now known as jhunold === stanley is now known as Guest33482 === Guest33482 is now known as stanley_ === cristiano is now known as Guest76735 [10:57] Howdy folks === ant_ is now known as ant__ === ant__ is now known as ant_ === ant_ is now known as ant__ === ant__ is now known as kenuku === kenuku is now known as ant__ === ant__ is now known as kenuku === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:15] Hi guys. [14:15] I need some help in installing kubuntu. [14:15] Have a hard time how to dual boot from windows. [14:16] anyone can guide me about it? [14:16] !dualboot | user|93197 [14:16] user|93197: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [14:19] in ubuntu the install program was easy because it offers install ubuntu side by side. but in kubuntu installer it doesn't have one. How could I set it up that i don't need to format my drive like ubuntu installer. [14:20] Hey BluesKaj, just reporting another instance. Running Kubuntu off USB on a new system. Same lag problem when on AC which normalises when on battery [14:20] Sysinfo for 'TuxStick': Running inside KDE Plasma 5 on Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) powered by Linux 4.8.0-34-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80GHz at 1800 MHz, RAM: 3584/3845 MB, Storage: 27/56 GB, 270 procs, 0.44h up [14:22] himcesjf no point, think you should research that on your own [14:22] BluesKaj: Right [14:25] BluesKaj: How about you testing it by yourself? [14:26] himcesjf, why ? I prefer to run off sata drives hdds or ssds. USBs are for temp files IMO [14:27] BluesKaj: Well, if you are interested to help identify cause [14:30] not really , I'm busy testing 17.04..I'll leave the USB research and testing to you , himcesjf [14:31] user|93197: The Kubuntu installer should offer that as well [14:31] user|93197: is this a windows 10 system? [14:42] its windows 10. it only show 4 options [14:42] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/eS2GyE5XRuOTM5lRiHWq?signature=1cbd763f76e1f977bd29b2c76f7fe86d7296167c44d1a3881ae684c712f475b5&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODU0NDQ2OTd9 [14:43] there is no side by side offer install. [14:43] this is just the example. but i downloaded the lates version of kubuntu. [14:44] user|93197, choose manual [14:44] then after i choose manual what should i do next? please guide me thank you. [14:44] that will give a list of the partitions availble to install to [14:46] if use manual. will my hard drive will be formatted right? or how can i set up it to be in side by side by my windows? [14:46] if you haven't partitioned the drive already I recommend you do so with gparted live media before you try to install [14:47] user|93197, do some research about partitioning hard drives if you want to dual boot, it's worth the effort [14:48] Ok thank you. [14:49] !dual boot [14:49] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [14:49] user|93197,^ [14:53] user|93197: for one, 15.10 is EOL so dont install that [14:53] user|93197: only 16.04 or 16.10 (or 14.04 or 12.04 I guess but dont) [14:54] user|93197: also I think you need to disable the fast startup stuff in Windows prior to install, otherwise the drive is marked "dirty" or something, and the installer wont detect another installed OS [14:57] hmmm, just booted 16.10 on a windows10 machine next to me, it did not have fast startup disabled, and the installer sees the partitions just fine and offers resizing etc [15:06] I see. So I need to disable the fast startup so the installer will detect the OS inside of it. [15:06] I'll try it. [15:07] user|93197: Like I said, it worked for me without doing so. I just recall seeing it mentioned before [15:08] user|93197: the main thing is that you should not install 15.10 [15:09] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/mJxX6IuPS8axqjKuJyJs?signature=ee3db7cbe4eb71021e8db1d9d9758a9f028d8d7e81ca93caa519fe97db5da40a&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODU0NDYyODF9 [15:09] hi [15:09] here is the screenshot of my USB ready to boot for install. [15:09] 16.04 [15:10] user|93197: you're fine then. just the image you linked showed 15.10 installer [15:10] my system upgraded to the Development version (11.04)... I thought I had Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades... yet it skipped past 10.10!!! [15:10] user|93197: so yea, try disabling fast startup I guess [15:10] er [15:10] I DO have Prompt=normal [15:10] ok thank you. I'll be back. I'll try it. [15:11] EvilRoey: which means you were on 10.04? which is not supported either [15:11] oh arghhhhhhhh I did do-release-upgrade -d [15:11] argh [15:11] is there a way I can roll back to 10.10 from here? [15:11] I hope stuff doesn't break fundamentally [15:11] Not really. And 10.10 is not supported [15:11] already I see that I am having trouble installing Virtualbox. [15:11] hateball: what do you mjean? [15:12] EvilRoey: That 10.10 is EOL [15:12] sorry I meant 16.10 [15:12] anything before 12.04 is, and 12.04 goes EOL in some months [15:12] heh :) [15:12] .. [15:12] I'd like to roll back to 16.10 if that's possible [15:13] Well there is no supported way of doing so [15:13] ok. [15:13] Is anything broken in 17.04 for you? [15:13] I just want to get past this little thing trying to set up Virtualbox's latest dpkg: [15:13] yeah there were broken things [15:13] that's why I upgraded [15:13] http://pastebin.com/zU8QuCzi [15:14] I asked in #vbox but no one is answering [15:14] ok lets get this straight... you were on 16.04 then? [15:14] but instead of upgrading to 16.10, you went to dev release 17.04 ? [15:14] I was on 16.04, upgraded mistakenly with the -d option to 1.04 [15:14] er [15:14] 17.04 [15:14] 17.04-devel, rather [15:14] hateball: yes [15:15] yeah well there will be no easy way to roll back, chances are you'd break even more stuff [15:15] right.. [15:15] I am guessing vbox hasnt been updated to build its modules against the kernel in 17.04 then [15:15] right. [15:15] at any rate, I'd ask in #ubuntu+1 [15:15] thanks!!! [15:16] vbox 5.1.14 seems ok here on 17.04, or at least I've not hit issues [15:16] oh? [15:17] EvilRoey: do you have kernel headers etc installed? [15:17] kernel 4.9.0-11-generic [15:17] always [15:17] hateball: I should yeah.. [15:17] I mean, it's worked every other time. [15:18] I don't even see what the error is that is causing it to fail [15:18] the /lib/modules/4.9.0-11-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko built here clearly [15:18] virtualbox-5.1_5.1.14-112924~Ubuntu~yakkety_amd64.deb [15:18] is what I tried installing. [15:19] that is what I have [15:19] ok [15:19] I mean. [15:19] I upgraded from 16.04 -> 17.04. [15:19] maybe it is missing something from in between [15:19] ? [15:19] eek! [15:20] heh shyeah [15:24] eh... [15:24] ;o [15:25] perhaps there is no package for zesty, but that clearly says yakkety at least [15:25] but if it works for acheronuk... [15:26] right, I know [15:33] I've only rarely found issues running vbox for a previous release on one version newer [15:51] hi [15:51] how do I make an install USB? [15:53] What you want to install ... [15:53] "make an install USB" makes no sense. [15:53] 16.10! :) [15:53] ok [15:53] I want to boot off this thing [15:53] that's why I said make in install USB. With the Kubuntu 10.10 image. [15:53] er [15:53] 16.10 [15:53] not 10.0 [15:54] EvilRoey: Kubuntu includes a usb image maker. [15:54] Check the startup disk creator. [15:54] Copies the iso to a usb stick for you. [15:54] unetbootin [15:54] ? [15:55] copies any distro to your usb bootable [15:55] lordievader: yes! How do I invoke it? [15:55] Smurphy: cool, what's the command? [15:56] EvilRoey: You start it and follow the steps... [15:56] usb-creator-kde [15:57] OH MY GOD just gimme the command lordievader [15:57] Smurphy: thankknk you [15:57] jesus [15:57] unetbootin is hit and miss [15:57] I come in here and five minutes until someone actually tells me. [15:57] EvilRoey: Search for the program, I don't know the command to launch it. [15:57] sorry, I'm smiling while I say this, I don't mean to be antagonistic :) [15:58] lordievader: ahhh got it [15:58] so usb-creator-ke, as Smurphy says [15:58] in the start-menu, search for creator (Just type it). [16:01] thanks [16:01] so right off the bat it presents this status box saying Installing, which is blank save for a horizontal gray line [16:01] when I try to close it, I get asked if I want to quit the application [16:02] I ignored it and clicked "make usb" or something like that on the window behind it [16:02] it wrote to the usb stick [16:02] it now says "finishing" [16:02] ok...rebooting, brb [16:32] well that went quicker than I expected [16:32] yeay USB [16:32] that was my first time installing via USB [16:33] usb is fase than dvd/cd [16:33] faster [16:35] if disk creator doesn't work dd is a good alternative, just have to be more careful [16:35] ok [16:36] I thought about dd but then I had no idea about the boot sector portion.. I can't just dd an .iso to a usb device and expect it to boot, right? [16:37] yes [16:37] you can [16:38] oh interesting. [16:38] BRB [16:39] dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX(USB) bs=4M , for example [16:40] actually /path/to/iso would be more correct [16:44] EvilRoey, dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX(USB) bs=4M , for example, but there are many options one can add to the command. I jsut like to keep it as simple as possible due to my terrble typing abilitiy :-) [16:45] ah :) [16:45] BluesKaj: btw, good morning :) [16:45] BluesKaj: so reinstalling is less a hassle than it used to be, I foudn out today [16:47] yes 'mo rning EvilRoey , yeah I used a plop cd on this old machine so i could install via USB [16:47] ahh [16:47] is there a "maxi" version of the installation iso? [16:47] like, 5+ GB? [16:47] I have a 14 GB stick. [16:47] and this installation image uses 1.1 GB of it :P [16:47] was almost twice as fast iirc [16:47] BluesKaj: yeah!! [16:48] most kubuintu iso's are between 1 and 1.6 GB [16:52] The Lubuntu image still fits on a regular CD but not any others === lethu_ is now known as lethu === Exposure is now known as PatrickM === PatrickM is now known as samtap [18:39] Hi. Could someone help me with getting my Audio working? The onboard audio is Realtek ALC892 and it's detected my hardware and I can control it through kmix and I can see that it receives audio but it doesn't come throught my headphones. What should I do? [19:03] I just installed 16.04 64 bit on my new Dell laptop. I am up to date on all my updates. I started Discover to install some software, and no matter which catagory I click on it comes up blank. Does anyone know the command to manually install Synaptic Package Manager? [19:06] AceKing, install muon with apt [19:06] OK, just figured out the command. I was putting in to much info to install. I just ran sudo apt-get install synaptic [19:06] BluesKaj: OK [19:12] eh I guess that my 5+ years old card just doesn't work on linux [19:16] derreks, which card? [19:17] BluesKaj: ALC892 from Realtek [19:17] Hi [19:22] derreks, open alsamixer inb the terminal and make sure auto-mute is disabled then run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, a reboot may be needed [19:23] Hello. I'm trying to remap my mouse thumb button. I've tried xte, xbindkeys, imwheel, and a few more. They all bind the mouse thumb to a key correctly, but there is an issue: when I am holding another mouse button (ie left click) and then I press the thumb button, then the thumb button will do nothing. [19:23] the modprobe command loads the driver so there won't be any output, derreks [19:24] tested it with xev, having thumb_1 remapped to SPACE key, and while pressing thumb in fact printed space, pressing thumb while holding left click printed button 8 (default mouse thumb button), so S O M E H O W the sole act of holding a mouse button DENIES EVERY REMAP TOOL AVAILABLE FOR LINUX. [19:24] BluesKaj: I'll reboot now. [19:24] I've googled for hours and there are some people who had my same issue, but no one provided an answer!!!!! i'm going crazy. I've been 4 hours on this. I just want my mouse thumb to behave as a keyboard key, why is it so complicated? [19:25] configuringMOUSE, cross posting is frowned upon on feeenode [19:27] BluesKaj: still doesn't work [19:28] BluesKaj: *huh?* [19:29] I am closer to my internet box and I am able to connect wireless but not when I am further away, how come? [19:30] derreks_, do you have your settings in system settings> multimedia>Device Preference and hardware input tabs set up? [19:30] !crosspost | configuringMOUSE [19:30] configuringMOUSE: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [19:31] BluesKaj: I think so. [19:32] make sure [19:32] BluesKaj: please, blow me [19:32] How should it look like? [19:32] It sees audio cards. [19:33] configuringMOUSE, I'll ignore that, but your attitude needs adjutment [19:35] BluesKaj: yeah, we could argue about what's more disrespectful, "blow me" or trying to restrict another person freedom so that person will speak only about what you want where you want it [19:35] derreks_, use the test button in device preferences on each one listed , choose the one works and move it to the top then apply [19:35] None works. [19:36] configuringMOUSE, it's the rules , the info bot is invoked for a reason when you try to hof =g support from seberal chats at once [19:36] several [19:37] is invoked? you invoked it.. leave me alone, man, i'm not in the mood [19:38] derreks_, in alsamixer, make sure your vol ctls are turned up to at least 80%, with no MM in the little box, that means mute [19:40] BluesKaj: nothing is muted and everything is at 100% [19:40] auto-mute is disabled ? [19:42] it's on the far right beside loopback [19:43] BluesKaj: Woah. [19:43] That was it! [19:43] Thank you! [19:43] :-) [19:46] Any thoughts on my question? [19:47] R13ose , how far away? [19:49] and which wifi frequency settings, 2.4 or 5Ghz? [19:57] R13ose: Out of signal? [19:58] BluesKaj: I am not sure how far away but I am one floor away for sure. Yet my phone gets the connections in the same spot. Frequency is 5.785 GHz [20:00] phone over wifi I assume, R13ose [20:01] R13ose: What signal strength does the laptop(?) receive? [20:01] lordievader: how do I check? [20:01] BluesKaj: yes my phone gets wifi [20:03] R13ose: sudo iw dev station dump|grep signal [20:06] lordievader: -70 [-70, -81] dBm [20:06] I am connected wireless now [20:06] That is quite low indeed. [20:06] R13ose, 5Ghz doesn't penetrate floors and walls as well as the 2.4Ghz channels do , try the lower 2.4 Ghz channels , especially below ch6 since you're in Canada [20:07] Your phone probably has an antenna with slightly more gain, making it just enough to connect. [20:08] Isn't 5Ghz better? [20:09] Not necessarily, has its downsides. [20:09] Smaller range being one of them. [20:09] if you're closer to the rourter yes, because there's less traffic, but 2.4 has more range [20:10] Why can other laptops work in the same area? [20:10] Different antenna's [20:10] we just told you , alot of laptops default to 2.4Ghz [20:11] some don't even have the 5Ghz option like mine [20:11] Oh, I misread [20:11] How do I change to 2.4? [20:15] I have to change it in my router if I had the 5Ghz option , my laptop can use only 2.4 , so i don't know about yours [20:16] Wouldn't be surprised if NetworkManager has an option for it. [20:17] nmcli shows '802-11-wireless.band' and '802-11-wireless.channel'. [20:18] Ok [20:20] I don't see anything in networkmanager myself === thomas is now known as Guest87817 [20:23] R13ose: Do you know the 2.4GHz channel the router operates on? [20:24] If you do, you can set it through: nmcli conn edit ; set 802-11-wireless.channel [20:24] ; save [20:28] lordievader: channel 11 [20:29] lordievader: can you put that in a pastebin, I will try that later. I just moved the laptop and wireless failed. I will take a break [20:33] R13ose: There are irc logs... [20:34] R13ose: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/01/26/%23kubuntu.html [20:36] Thanks [20:37] R13ose, also if your router has antennae the move around to get the best signalpropagation , sometimes at a 45 degree angle to either side of the router works well like so \ / [20:38] BluesKaj: none [20:39] right, you have that white bell router with no antennae , I had one of those..worked well on 2,4 [20:39] BluesKaj: nope, it is black [20:40] a something stream? [20:41] Sagemcom [20:41] Model: Fast 5250. Home Hub 2000 [20:46] bell fibe [20:51] Yep [21:02] Bbl [21:18] somewhere [22:13] lordievader: I tried the command and goes inti nmcli > which if I quit says usage for save. [22:16] my sympathies to R13ose for having to resort to nmcli [22:17] valorie: is this that bad? [22:28] I found it endlessly frustrating to use [22:28] but I assume once you know all the commands, it's much easier [22:38] Yes but I want to see if I can fix my wireless === lethu_ is now known as lethu [23:41] Seems everyone is gone [23:53] R13ose: it might be good to restate your problem, and a short list of how you have tried to fix it so far [23:53] not that I can help