[00:00] <gpiccoli> Did a distro-upgrade yesterday, rebooted the machine; suddenly my mate desktop was bugged and audacious player was gone! The guilty:gtk2-engines-pixbuf was not installed anymore
[00:01] <gpiccoli> Tried to reinstall it, got: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23866507/
[00:02] <gpiccoli> Then, I downloaded the deb package and modified the dependency to match the requested one, worked fine
[00:02] <gpiccoli> So, who's "wrong", gtk2-engines-pixbuf or libgtk2, that is reporting it's version as 2.24.30-1ubuntu1.16.04.1
[00:02] <gpiccoli> ?
[00:02] <gpiccoli> Should I fill a LP?
[00:06] <sarnold> gpiccoli: does dpkg --get-selections | grep -i hold report anything?
[00:06] <gpiccoli> let me check sarnold
[00:07] <gpiccoli> is this the command sarnold: "sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -i hold" ?
[00:07] <gpiccoli> it's empty
[00:07] <sarnold> I didn't require sudo on mine. but that's curious, the error says something about held packages, so I expected to see one. :)
[00:09] <sarnold> I have the impression the "2.24.30-1ubuntu1.16.04.1 " version should only be in -proposed; if you're not actively testing something from proposed you could disable that pocket in your apt configuration, I guess, but it might still be worth figuring out why you only got half the package update apparently :/  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk%2B2.0
[00:09] <gpiccoli> oh sarnold, but I manage to bypass the original error by changing the deb package control file
[00:10] <gpiccoli> sarnold, enabled proposed in the past, to install kernel 4.8; then disabled right after and I expected it wouldn't mess with any packages of mine
[09:13] <cking> happyaron, hi, did you get my reply to the zfs packaging review?
[09:14] <happyaron> cking: yes, but not yet updated the debian packages yet
[09:14] <happyaron> spl-linux was updated
[09:14] <happyaron> just zfs-linux needs an upload
[09:14] <cking> happyaron, ok, cool, just wondered if my email got back to you
[09:15] <happyaron> but my subkey is expiring... can't do upload in the mean time
[09:25] <cking> ah, oops
[13:40] <zul> hi can an archive admin please review python-os-xenapi please?
[15:25] <pmcgowan> Laney, hi are yous till looking at bug #1644323
[15:26] <Laney> pmcgowan: no, it was done from my POV
[15:26] <pmcgowan> oh, it was reverted
[15:26] <Laney> there was something broken in xenial touch that made it break the session
[15:27] <pmcgowan> right
[15:27] <Laney> right, but sil2100 will take care of re-uploading once that is fixed
[15:27] <pmcgowan> hmm, ok will look elsewhere thanks
[15:27] <Laney> sorry
[15:27] <sil2100> Yeah
[15:27] <pmcgowan> np
[15:27] <Laney> I think Saviq was looking?
[15:27] <sil2100> Saviq said Robert Ancell would have to look at it probably
[15:27] <sil2100> IIRC
[15:27] <Saviq> Robert did say he'll have a look, yes
[15:28] <pmcgowan> sil2100, this bug is a pain, and I couldnt install the old debs for some reason, screwed up my system
[15:28] <Laney> you could re-apply the diff in a silo or PPA or something
[15:28] <Laney> if it's just for personal usage
[15:29] <pmcgowan> I can work around it by removing the unity8-session then reinstalling when I need it
[15:29] <pmcgowan> Saviq, can we see that he is looking?
[15:29] <Laney> well, or hack /usr/share/upstart/sessions/dbus.conf
[15:29] <pmcgowan> Laney, oh?
[15:30] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/302225938/dbus_1.10.6-1ubuntu3.2_1.10.6-1ubuntu3.3.diff.gz
[15:30] <Laney> just reverse apply that patch to that file
[15:30] <pmcgowan> Saviq, can we add a task and have robert assigned to it
[15:30] <Saviq> pmcgowan, bug #1654365
[15:30] <Saviq> not sure we should merge
[15:31] <pmcgowan> ok
[15:31] <pmcgowan> Laney, where is the patch, dont see it attached to the bug
[15:31] <pmcgowan> oh
[15:32] <pmcgowan> Laney, Saviq thanks
[18:11] <Laney> nacc: hi, just want to poke you about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1639962
[18:11] <Laney> any chance you could do it soonish? :-)
[18:11] <Laney> I noticed https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-zesty/zesty/amd64/g/gvfs/20170124_003147_bb0b7@/log.gz <- failing, looks to be because of this
[18:12] <Laney> and then I found out that it's basically busted
[18:12] <Laney> anyway, just wanted to poke, got to go - see you
[18:14] <nacc> Laney: ack, it's on my todo, will bump it up to this week
[20:17] <tjaalton> why do the text dialogs in launchpad flash in orange when clicking on them?
[20:18] <sladen> focus?  confirmation?
[20:18] <tjaalton> that's a bit too obvious confirmation
[20:20] <tjaalton> this is with firefox, dunno about other browsers
[20:21] <tjaalton> holding the left button on a comment box keeps the box orange
[20:22] <tjaalton> seeing it on both zesty and xenial, so guess it's a firefox feature now
[20:23] <dobey> tjaalton: on a bug comment box?
[20:23] <sarnold> tjaalton: that's a new firefox thing
[20:23] <sarnold> I never figured it out but it's damned annoying
[20:23] <dobey> yeah i am not seeing what you describe, in chromium
[20:24] <dobey> sounds like some a11y feature in firefox
[20:24] <tjaalton> sarnold: phew, I'm not the only one then :)
[20:24] <tjaalton> dobey: yep
[20:25] <sarnold> same thing happens on e.g. edit text boxes on wiki.ubuntu.com and http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:36] <mwhudson> oh wow
[20:41] <fossfreedom> hi all - can I ask a question here please with regards to ubuntu's lightdm package?  I'm trying to work out why unity-greeter is being installed in Ubuntu Budgie - I think its being install by lightdm - I've never seen this syntax for the recommends section of the debian/control file - what does this mean?
[20:42] <fossfreedom> Recommends: unity-greeter | lightdm-gtk-greeter
[20:43] <sarnold> | seperates alternations, similar as regex https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html
[20:46] <fossfreedom> sarnold: so unity-greeter is always installed when you install lightdm?
[20:47] <tjaalton> not if you install lightdm-gtk-greeter as well
[20:47] <sarnold> fossfreedom: unless lightdm-gtk-greeter is already installed.. probably apt-get install lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter would also skip installing unity-greeter
[20:49] <fossfreedom> sarnold: so I shouldn't explicitly add a depends on lightdm?  just on lightdm-greeter when should then install lightdm but not unity-greeter?
[20:50] <fossfreedom> * when which
[20:55] <sarnold> fossfreedom: I'm not sure what to recommend.. (a) I'm not awesome at debian packaging, I just happened to know this one :) (b) I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve in the end
[20:58] <fossfreedom> k - thanks for the hints.  our packaging has not explicitly added "unity-greeter" anywhere - but its some how being installed on the ISO.  Ubuntu Budgie uses lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter - so I'm trying to figure out why unity-greeter is being pulled onto the ISO.
[21:00] <sarnold> fossfreedom: hrm. are you in a position to apt-get purge unity-greeter and see what else would be removed?
[21:00] <krytarik> fossfreedom: I'd think it's too far down the dependency chain - adding it to the seed directly should solve it.
[21:02] <fossfreedom> hmm - that sounds interesting - I guess that will mean a rebuild of our meta-package?  Yep could try that.
[21:28] <clivejo> can anyone explain or point me in the direction of instruction on how to only build for certain arch?
[21:32] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-budgie.zesty/desktop says "lightdm (Recommends)", so I'd probably suggest adding lightdm-gtk-greeter to your desktop seed and see if that helps
[21:32] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: you can run germinate against a locally-modified seed branch to test the changes
[21:33] <cjwatson> ... ah, krytarik got there before me too
[21:33] <cjwatson> yes, it would require rebuilding the metapackage
[22:24] <doko> coreycb, jamespage: looks like #1404227 was never closed for the distro package
[22:46] <clivejo> doko: We are being affected by this bug - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840293 is there any chance of patching the ubuntu version or syncing with Debian?
[22:48] <doko> clivejo, infinity: looks like a dpkg merge. not sure when infinity had planned that. but this merge has other nasty changes
[23:11] <clivejo> doko: any chance of getting a fix?  symbol helper has been broken in zesty for months now
[23:30] <vincenttc> will python 3.5.3 be backported to xenial? I'm facing a bug in the email library that is fixed in that version
[23:30] <sarnold> vincenttc: it's unlikely, python whole-version backports have caused severe trouble in the past
[23:31] <sarnold> vincenttc: but if you can track down a commit that addresses your bug it might be able to be SRUd
[23:36] <vincenttc> sarnold: thanks, I was hoping it would be backported, since 3.5.2 was, but I'll try to find the specific commit then
[23:37] <sarnold> vincenttc: oh, if 3.5.2 was backported and I don't remember any giant hassles, then maybe there's a chanve for 3.5.3. :)
[23:37] <vincenttc> sarnold: any idea how long that would take?
[23:38] <sarnold> no, sorry
[23:38] <vincenttc> np, thanks anyways
[23:40] <cjwatson> it can't be as bad as updating through python2.7 maintenance releases ;-)