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fishcookerim on ubuntu 14.04... after i do reconfig /etc/network/interfaces... how to restart the network... i do /etc/init.d/networking restart but it don't use latest config09:25
rbasakfishcooker: easiest way? Reboot. If you want to bounce the loopback interface, then stuff may fail anyway. Complicated way? Bring down the interface(s) you're changing *first* using ifdown, then edit /etc/network/interfaces, then ifup what you need afterwards.09:27
rbasak"/etc/init.d/networking restart" doesn't really make sense in the modern era of hotpluggable NICs and complex network layouts such as bridges and bonds.09:28
rbasakAnd we don't have a goal-seeking networking configurator (yet).09:28
jamespagebug 165951509:52
ubottubug 1659515 in tempest "Some tests fail when running keystone v3 with policy.v3cloudsample.json" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165951509:52
fishcookerwhat's the diff between ifconfig eth0 up/down with if[up/down] rbasak?09:55
rbasakfishcooker: ifupdown keeps track of things in userspace for you, including doing DHCP, DNS, etc. ifconfig bypasses that and speaks to the kernel directly and does none of that.10:07
fricklerjamespage: cleaning up old stuff I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1632538 , can you please check if that is good to go from -proposed to -updates now?10:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1632538 in OpenStack Compute (nova) newton "Using generate_service_certificate and undercloud_public_vip in undercloud.conf breaks nova" [Undecided,Incomplete]10:29
jamespagefrickler, looking now10:34
jamespagefrickler, I can't do the move myself - but you've updated the tag so the SRU team should pickup soon10:35
jamespagerbasak, I know its not your day but is this something you could do ^^ ?10:35
jamespagecoreycb, are we good to push proposed->updates for ocata?10:45
rbasakjamespage: trying but I'm just getting LP timeouts right now, sorry.10:56
jamespagerbasak, urgh11:57
jamespagerbasak, I think that went through (I just saw an email for one series)11:57
jamespagethe 16.04 I think11:57
rbasakjamespage: retried both, done now I think, including the automatic bug comment.12:03
jamespagerbasak, thankyou - much appreciated - frickler ^^12:03
rbasakYou're welcome12:08
fricklerthanks from me to both of you12:31
coreycbjamespage, yes i think we can.  there's a bug in designate that seems to be an upstream bug.12:32
coreycbthat's all12:32
samba35when i want to use update-alternative it says "" in manual mode "" what it mean ? do i run update-alternative every time ? can this be done auto ?12:40
jamespagecoreycb, ok promoting now13:29
jamespageyou announce email lgtm btw13:29
coreycbjamespage, ok thanks13:29
jamespagecoreycb, we might need to get neutron-lbaas-dashboard packaged up13:51
zulcoreycb: there is some new deps out this morning but b3 is startnig to release as well, so im going to get to the deps first then start on b313:51
jamespageits the lbaasv2 dashboard so currently with newton you can't horizon configure LB's13:51
jamespageworks OK from the CLI tho13:51
coreycbjamespage, ok13:51
coreycbzul, sounds good13:51
coreycbjamespage, i'll see if we can get that into ocata13:52
zulcoreycb:  nova might be blocked because python-os-xenapi is not in the archive yet and no archive admin has reviewed it13:53
cpaelzerjamespage: zul: coreycb: whatever it is worth todays retry on the weird container pid issue I reported worked fine14:11
cpaelzerstill it was worth to write about it so people can find it in the chat log and such14:12
zulcpaelzer: the s390 thing?14:13
cpaelzerzul: yeah the container pid namespace assertion thing14:13
cpaelzerzul: had 1 ppc and 2 s390 hits - so not arch exclusive14:13
zulcpaelzer: ah ok14:13
coreycbcpaelzer, ok i'll let you know if we see it in the future14:14
frickleris it intentional that murano-dashboard for UCA newton is still at 2.0.0, while the rest of murano is at 3.0.0?14:47
fricklerI also just found a nasty issue in it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/murano-dashboard/+bug/165957014:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1659570 in murano-dashboard (Ubuntu) "Installing murano-dashboard=3.0.0 deletes needed files" [Undecided,New]14:47
zulcoreycb: i got barbican14:55
zulcoreycb: b3 needs a newer alembic15:15
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zulcoreycb: i got heat17:00
bigtonicusi need to send no-reply emails from my private subnet but the mail client needs to sent them to the smtp server securely any tutorials out there that can help me?18:44
bigtonicusso i need to send no-reply@example.com from a client on a private subnet to a server running the tls postfix server so the mail to the tls postfix server is secure18:45
sarnoldbigtonicus: do you want a full-blown smtp service on the sending machine or do you just want a simple little tool? msmtp is a nice simple little thing18:58
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bigtonicusit needs to send no-reply emails for a fqdn will msmtp do that?19:08
bigtonicusso I will be sending the email from a client but i need to configure the mta postfix server to send emails for the example.com domain19:09
sarnoldsure just set the From: header to whatever you please19:16
zulcoreycb: got glance19:26
coreycbzul, ok19:29
coreycbmwhahaha, i file a bug so we can track the designate issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/165963819:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1659638 in Designate "ocata designate-mdns fails if monasca-statd not installed" [Undecided,New]19:30
mwhahahacoreycb: ok19:36
zulcoreycb: heat busted with newer ceilometerclient, proposing fix20:32
* teward throws sticks at sarnold21:07
sarnoldafternoon teward :)21:08
tewardgreetings to thee21:08
tewardsarnold: mind if I bother you about SSL stuff?21:08
tewardvery basic question :p21:08
tewardsarnold: i am about 100% certain of this, but there's no *sane* way to backport OpenSSL 1.0.2 to Trusty or such is there?21:08
tewardNot without introducing major explosive breakages21:08
sarnoldteward: nothing comes to mind for doing that 'easily'21:09
sarnoldyou certainly wouldn't want to just replace the system openssl with a newer package21:10
sarnoldyou could compile your own in /usr/local and use it for the things that need a newer openssl, but that seems like it's outside your usual range of intentions :)21:10
tewardthat's the assumption I made.  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/nginx/+bug/1658129 for why I asked :P21:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1658129 in Nginx "Please support OpenSSL 1.0.2 in Trusty for NGINX PPAs" [Wishlist,Won't fix]21:11
tewardsarnold: you're right, ^ that's what I was asking about21:11
tewardand I'm not ready to open that can of worms.  Ever.21:11
tewardI'd sooner volunteer to be hit by a taser than open that can of evil :P21:12
sarnoldteward: this is something that a snap could handle. but I don't know how likely snaps are to work on trusty. we've sunk man-months into making that happen but not having systemd on trusty is a bit of a sticking point.21:12
sarnoldmaybe even man-years21:12
tewardsarnold: well, I am pretty "No." in these terms21:12
tewardbasically the PPAs are under my direct thumb, if I say "Sorry, not happening" I win that fight.21:13
sarnoldteward: for a ppa that's probably the right attitude to take :)21:13
tewardtrue statement21:13
tewardbut i've seen stupid things like this for the nginx package over history too :P21:13
tewardended up having to tell people it is never happening21:13
sarnoldI have a friend who is convinced half the secret to success in an open source business is knowing which requests deserve a "no" response21:14
tewardthat's about accurate heh21:14
tewardbrb coffee run21:14
sarnoldas in you've got to know what it is you set out to build and why you're doing it. listen to people but be prepared to say "that's not why we're doing this" if their vision doesn't align with yours21:15
sarnoldenjoy :D21:15
tewardsarnold: i've done that for feature requests to add new modules to Ubuntu (but not Debian) in the past21:19
tewardmostly because I don't want to make your guys lives' evil on the Security Team21:19
teward'cause it'd need reviewed :P21:19
sarnold\o/ :D21:20
sarnoldyeah my review backlog is guilty long..21:21

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