[07:10] <CoderEurope> Happy Australia day !
[08:18] <SuperMatt> good to see, now that chrome and firefox are starting to report insecure sites, that more sites are going https by default
[08:47] <diddledan> morning
[08:55] <diddledan> SuperMatt: yeah, they're making people actually start to think about security
[08:55] <diddledan> both end-users and site-owners alike
[08:55] <kn1ghtw0rk> I have a first line support guy in my team that is seriously making me doubt my sanity
[08:57] <diddledan> kn1ghtw0rk: surely your lack of sanity should be the first warning sign, no? ;-)
[09:11] <kn1ghtw0rk> I have never had an abundance of sanity
[09:12] <kn1ghtw0rk> you all know that
[09:12] <diddledan> I'm glad I'm not alone :-)
[09:12] <diddledan> life would be boring if we were sane
[09:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:00] <diddledan> davmor2: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/514480991952699392/RkBBZpB2.jpeg
[10:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Australia Day! 😃  🌏  🐨
[10:04] <davmor2> diddledan: I think this is slightly more disturbing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgI7kIkwca8
[10:05] <diddledan> HAL FTW
[10:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: just for something that isn't men down under https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GtyMeEcPPE
[10:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:13] <davmor2> JamesTait: no coffee yet men at work, land down under kinda got merged into one that and I copy pasted :P
[10:14] <foobarry> bought a dishwasher at 8pm last night, was installed before 9am today :|
[10:16] <diddledan> foobarry: that's a fast turnaround
[10:25] <foobarry> yeah
[11:28] <zmoylan-pi> so how did you decide in the end which brand to go for?  the one with no blue leds? :-P
[11:34] <foobarry> bosch. was interested in samsung but they didn't seem to do slimline ones
[11:35] <foobarry> need to fit in 45cm gap
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> didn't they just recall a home appliance as it was impersonating their latest mobile offering?
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> samsung that is
[11:35] <foobarry> used topcashback and an voucher code to make things a bit cheaper
[11:36] <foobarry> well i would like an oven to make things hot
[11:36] <foobarry> and a hob to flame things
[11:36] <zmoylan-pi> a samsung fridge perhaps... :-P
[11:38] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: Yeah. In the USA their combi washer/dryer (I think) had a conflragation "feature"
[12:24] <daftykins> aww yeah new specs all the way from Hong Kong - https://www.dropbox.com/s/vu061glld8bampw/IMG_20170126_122104.jpg?dl=0
[12:25] <daftykins> bottom pair, missing a lens... are the ones i trashed in my spill 2 and a bit years ago
[12:27] <daftykins> it reached 0 deg C this morning D:
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> yeah 2 weather warnings in south of ireland... mostly just rain but does feel nippy out
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> and renewables ie wind is now providing 60+% or irish leccy at the mo... http://smartgriddashboard.eirgrid.com/
[12:33] <daftykins> oh dear that gives me a 503
[12:34] <daftykins> does that mean someone broke wind?
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> they seem to be running that server on a rasp pi and it often can't keep up with number of connections
[12:42] <daftykins> yay it's alive now
[12:43] <daftykins> that's pretty cool if accurate
[12:44] <daftykins> strangely, they're planning on running a large power cable from the northern tip of France just to the east of me here - up through the island of Alderney - to England O_O
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> the person i got the link from is an engineer who fixes the wind turbines amongst other things so i'm inclined to believe it's at least rougly accurate
[12:45] <daftykins> very neat
[12:46] <daftykins> i'd bet there are some fun systems to play with in power generation
[12:49] <daftykins> oh my specs were shipped by a courier named sky net, i think it's the rise of the machines
[12:50] <zmoylan-pi> lots of big toys... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G4hO76H6AU
[12:51] <daftykins> glaxo smithkline o0
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> all the big pharmacuticals are huge in ireland for manufacturing and research
[12:52] <daftykins> hmm, tax angles i take it?
[12:52] <zmoylan-pi> no, i think a lot of them predate the tax advantages
[12:52] <daftykins> hehe
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> i remember listening to a podcast a few months back from the early 70s about medical research in ireland bringing in international companies
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> *back of a radio documentary from
[12:54] <daftykins> :D
[13:01] <daftykins> oh i got the timber treatment guys report today to forward to my insurance adjuster, so there's a bit more progress... although they want to trash the rest of my bathroom now, which will mean moving out
[13:02] <zmoylan-pi> ... or crossing your legs for a few weeks...
[13:02] <daftykins> yip :>
[13:02] <daftykins> i have to head up a clients in a moment for a shower :/
[13:05] <zmoylan-pi> get a camping shower gizmo and shower in the garden... :-P
[13:06] <zmoylan-pi> hypothermia... but clean... :-P
[13:06] <daftykins> i don't have a garden :> just a little tiny deck with not so great drainage
[13:06] <daftykins> think the tap that's there is rusted solid too...
[13:07] <zmoylan-pi> it's just a bag of water so you can give yourself a navy shower.  wet, soap, rinse, soap, rinse...
[13:16] <foobarry> do we have any coders in here looking for an exciting job?
[13:23] <zmoylan-pi> i think the coders are down the pub drowning their sorrows over having to use ms software
[13:23] <daftykins> nah they're busy building the latest applications from source because their distro's default repos have all broken software packaged :)
[13:40] <dogmatic69> Hi all, im looking for a way to send the keystroke F1 to a terminal session, but it seems like the window manager is catching it
[13:40] <dogmatic69> any ideas how I can force it to send?
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> try an onscreen keyboard?
[13:42] <foobarry> are there any good subreddits for programmingjobs?
[13:42] <dogmatic69> one sec
[13:42] <foobarry> no MS software in this job
[13:42] <foobarry> anywhere
[13:42] <foobarry> r/jobbit
[13:43] <dogmatic69> zmoylan-pi: the onscreeen dont even have function keys
[13:43] <dogmatic69> doubt it would work anyway, I think it is the window manager catching for help screens. most apps have F1 for help
[13:45] <diddledan> dogmatic69: first result on google: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/53581/sending-function-keys-f1-f12-over-ssh
[13:46] <dogmatic69> "Another way to see the escape sequence for a function key is to press Ctrl+V in a terminal application that doesn't rebind the Ctrl+V key (such as the shell). Ctrl+V inserts the next character (which will be the escape character) literally, and you'll be able to see the rest of the sequence, which consists of ordinary characters."
[13:46] <dogmatic69> try that, and hit F1.. nothing happens
[13:47] <dogmatic69> ctrl+v -> F1 ... nothing
[13:47] <diddledan> that isn't what it tells you
[13:47] <diddledan> F1 == ^[OP
[20:04] <foobarry> google drive is dreadful
[20:05] <foobarry> impossible to navigate folders with any persistence
[20:05] <zmoylan-pi> i use dropbox... i wouldn't use it for anything secure mind
[20:06] <foobarry> this is a work collaboration between different institutions
[20:06] <foobarry> no choice
[20:06] <foobarry> cannot see contents of folders easily at all
[20:06] <daftykins> i've seen Google Drive fall over and be unreliable, too
[20:06] <daftykins> no idea what you mean is happening though
[20:08] <SuperMatt> I'm all about the OwnCloud
[20:08] <foobarry> when documents are in nested folders, navigating those foldesr is really cludgy
[20:09] <foobarry> and opening docs and navigating them is too
[20:09] <foobarry> it was ages before i realised there were folders full of files
[20:09] <foobarry> maybe i need that insync client
[20:10] <daftykins> on a clients Windows 7 system, i tried moving his Documents folder into the Google Drive root so that it'd keep them backed up - problem? it breaks indexing so search no longer works within it - and the client regularly crashed a couple of years back, generally pretty terrible
[20:14] <zmoylan-pi> ooooh, shiny.... http://kde.slimbook.es/
[20:21] <daftykins> https://youtu.be/4hHIv9RmDvY kittys + laser pointer now in 4K!