[00:00] <jnewt> should it have purged something?
[00:00] <exad> Ben64: 3300000 2900000 2300000 1700000 1400000
[00:00] <exad> It wouldn't move past 1.7 until I turned off powersave
[00:00] <k1l_> jnewt: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[00:02] <jnewt> there we go
[00:02] <Ben64> exad: you should check the bios to see if it's set properly
[00:02] <exad> Ben64: it is, in windows it's recognized
[00:02] <meximelt> hello
[00:03] <Ben64> i didn't say windows, i said bios
[00:03] <HumanAI> you said bias?
[00:03] <exad> in bios it shows 4.0 ghz
[00:03] <meximelt> I'm having a problem with a server I'm running on virtualbox, I can access the server from my network, but the vm itself cannot access the internet.  I have it set up as a bridged network and have tried adding a NAT adapter as a second adapter
[00:04] <k1l_> jnewt: after that is done: sudo apt install nvidia-graphics-drivers-378
[00:04] <Ben64> exad: 4ghz is the turbo frequency, it wouldn't be set to that
[00:04] <exad> I overclocked.. decreased the multi, dropped ram freq, etc, increased fsb, then balanced off the frequencies of ram and nb and got it stable
[00:05] <exad> but for some reason, this os won't detect it
[00:05] <HumanAI> you need to reinstall
[00:06] <k1l_> HumanAI: please stop that not helpfull offtopic in here.
[00:06] <Ben64> exad: sounds more like you underclocked
[00:07] <exad> Ben64: nono, I just gave some slack to play with the fsb
[00:07] <exad> then raised the ram and nb speeds back to stock
[00:07] <exad> It's at 4ghz, I'm positive
[00:07] <meximelt> oh wait wrong chat, I will try the vbox chat, thanks have a nice day
[00:07] <Ben64> exad: if that was true, it'd be at 4ghz, and it's not so... it's not
[00:08] <exad> lol Ben64 well it's not in linux but it is in the bios and windows!
[00:08] <exad> are you trolling me? D:
[00:08] <HumanAI> i sai this channel shouldnt support overclocked machines its the same has asking for support for an unofficial deivative distro
[00:08] <Ben64> nope, you're too sure of yourself to see the truth it seems
[00:08] <bazhang> !ot | HumanAI
[00:08] <HumanAI> if you overclock your basically on your own
[00:09] <bazhang> HumanAI, please stop NOW
[00:09] <exad> I was just hoping someone might know a way to force it to recognize it
[00:09] <Ben64> it doesn't 'recognize' anything, it shows what it is
[00:09] <exad> Ben64: why would my bios lie?
[00:10] <Ben64> i'm guessing you're reading it improperly
[00:10] <exad> Brb
[00:10] <HumanAI> if you overclock you are can run into al sorts of random issues
[00:12] <jnewt> k1l_: nvidia-graphics-drivers-378 was not found, but nvidia-378 is installing.  same thing right?
[00:12] <k1l_> jnewt: yes
[00:12] <jnewt> cool.
[00:15] <exad> Ben64: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RCvM7qJGJyXPe2ysnFkNz6Yt26fGWVJRUw
[00:16] <Ben64> exad: need to see more
[00:16] <Ben64> or you could set it all back to default and see if it goes to 3.5
[00:18] <jdm> anyone have any advice on installing phpbb 3.2 on ubuntu 16.04? none of the documentation works and neither does the 3.02 repository install
[00:19] <jdm> i get 404 not found when attempting to connect to http://mysite/phpbb3/install
[00:19] <exad> hmmmm brb again
[00:20] <jdm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpbb3/+bug/1622728
[00:21] <HumanAI> so ubuntu supports dx12 api?
[00:22] <nacc> jdm: heya -- is there a phbbb3 that does support php7?
[00:22] <k1l_> jdm: yes, ubuntu switched to php7 with 16.04. is phpbb3 tied to the deprecated php version5?
[00:22] <jdm> im looking into it now after reading that link
[00:23] <jdm> the phpbb3 documentation is nearly useless
[00:23] <nacc> jdm: looks like debian deleted it, as did ubuntu after 16.04 :/
[00:23] <nacc> jdm: so probably not
[00:23] <jdm> all the phpbb3 site says is PHP 5.4.0+
[00:23] <jdm> which is obviously pretty vague
[00:23] <HumanAI> svm_invictvs: may i call you patrick?
[00:24] <jdm> any reason why they would drop support for phpbb3?
[00:24] <jdm> other than it not supporting php 7.0
[00:25] <nacc> jdm: let me find the bug
[00:25] <Ben64> it doesn't have a great record of security
[00:25] <jdm> [18:24:52] <Jim-A> Our most recently releases version (3.2.0) does support PHP7 just fine.
[00:26] <jdm> any reason why i would be getting an error 404 when attempting to connect to http://mysite/phpbb3/install and http://mysite/phpbb3/ as far as the apache configuration goes?
[00:27] <nacc> jdm: yes, it was removed in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=816655, unmaintained and the version that was in debian/ubuntu did not support php7
[00:28] <jdm> are there any other repositories that have 3.2 in it?
[00:28] <nacc> jdm: looks like i probably should have requested its deletion in 16.04, as well
[00:28] <k1l_> jdm: look on launchpad for a PPA, or see if you install the software directly from the project
[00:28] <nacc> jdm: you'd have to look in the PPAs or install from source
[00:28] <jdm> do i need to add a virtual host specifically for phpbb3?
[00:29] <k1l_> nacc: if it doesnt work with php7, yes
[00:29] <jdm> ive got two domains assigned to one IP via apache virtual hosts
[00:29] <nacc> jdm: it's easiest probably to just setup trusty in a container or VM, honestly
[00:29] <jdm> both work just fine
[00:29] <exad> setting it to stock, does show proper 3.5ghz. It appears that it doesn't read the fsb increase at all..
[00:29] <jdm> im running 16.04 LTS
[00:29] <jdm> in a DO droplet
[00:29] <nacc> k1l_: yeah, not everything was easily testable (or had tests that would catch it) and the transition was something like 400+ packages :)
[00:30] <nacc> k1l_: and unfortunately, cannot delete it from the release
[00:30] <Ben64> exad: :)
[00:30] <nacc> jdm: we can hope that someone does step up in Debian and then we could SRU a php7-compliant version back, but it seems sort of unlikely at this point
[00:31] <jdm> any alternatives to phpbb3 that have the same layout?
[00:31] <exad> Ben64: Are you still thinking I didn't have an overclock?
[00:31] <nacc> jdm: you could file a bug in debian about that, and see if there are volunteers now that hte upstream is php7 compliant
[00:31] <Ben64> exad: indeed
[00:31] <jdm> i really dont want alot of white space considering it looks like shit
[00:31] <k1l_> jdm: you could ask the phpbb3 team if they want a fixed version back on ubuntu and debian and if they can maintain it
[00:31] <jdm> which is what the other open source alternatives look like
[00:32] <jdm> im in #phpbb now and am asking them
[00:32] <exad> Ben64: I think linux is just stubbornly limiting the fsb to 200 on boot
[00:32] <Ben64> exad: nope
[00:32] <nacc> jdm: i'll subscribe to the bug and see what i can do
[00:32] <jdm> the UI that phpbb3 looks nice
[00:32] <jdm> professionally layed out and doesnt have alot of white space
[00:32] <Ben64> you can install it from phpbb's site or a ppa
[00:33] <jdm> i tried to install using their zip and tar and ma getting a 404
[00:33] <exad> Ben64: Why would it show up everywhere else but here? not to mention, tested gains in speed
[00:33] <jdm> the repository install i get a mysql error
[00:33] <Ben64> jdm: then you picked the wrong directory
[00:33] <jdm> when attempting to finish the install using /install
[00:33] <jdm> i have it in /var/www/ and also placed it in /var/www/html
[00:33] <jdm> still get a 404, am somewhat of an apache noob
[00:33] <exad> I will just assume that rather than try to help you just want me to think I'm an idiot and give up
[00:33] <Ben64> exad: maybe you just increased turbo speed
[00:34] <exad> Ben64: I didn't, I set it all to manual :/
[00:34] <exad> and increased the fsb
[00:34] <Ben64> what is "it all"
[00:34] <exad> Turned off turbo
[00:34] <Ben64> ooh
[00:34] <exad> turned off power management
[00:35] <Ben64> i'd really recommend leaving all that on, and just pushing up the multiplier
[00:35] <exad> Ben64: that way doesn't yeild as much gain in performance
[00:36] <exad> Anyways, I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually
[00:38] <exad> Finally I worded my search properly
[00:38] <exad> Ben64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OverclockingCpu :(
[00:38] <exad> I was right but I lose anyway
[00:39] <Ben64> how do you lose
[00:39] <exad> because there doesn't look to be any tools for amd
[00:39] <jdm> what about the 404 error and a misconfigured apache config?
[00:39] <jdm> misconfigured on my part
[00:50] <AKid> am I invisible to you?
[00:50] <Ben64> no
[00:50] <AKid> thanks
[00:50] <fatfinger> lol
[00:51] <AKid> so people just ask programming questions on here and such?
[00:51] <Ben64> ubuntu support questions
[00:51] <jnewt> where do i tell nvidia X Server Settings window to save the X Configuration so that it will be used every time?
[00:52] <Ben64> jnewt: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:53] <jnewt> ok, thanks Ben64
[00:58] <GladiaTeur> Hello there guys can someone help me set cronjob to restart my server every 40 hours
[01:02] <PickledEggs> GladiaTeur: does it have to be exactly 40 hours?
[01:02] <PickledEggs> GladiaTeur: you could put something in /etc/cron.daily to have it done every day
[01:02] <GladiaTeur> PickledEggs it can be two days for example
[01:02] <GladiaTeur> Or everyday night
[01:04] <Ben64> GladiaTeur: why reboot though? i'm curious
[01:04] <fatfinger> heheheheh PickledEggs ... :)
[01:05] <GladiaTeur> Ben64 just to sync the server and to be faster it's a nat server
[01:05] <GladiaTeur> nat web server*
[01:05] <GladiaTeur> using ubuntu 16.*
[01:06] <Ben64> rebooting doesn't make it faster
[01:06] <Ben64> and you can sync it when it is on
[01:06] <PickledEggs> GladiaTeur: you'll want to edit your /etc/crontab file - for every other day the entry would look like this: "0 2 */2 * * root reboot"
[01:06] <PickledEggs> that would reset it at 2am every other day
[01:07] <GladiaTeur> Thank you PickledEggs for your help and being nice
[01:08] <PickledEggs> you're welcome
[01:08] <PickledEggs> "0 2 * * * root reboot" would do it nightly at 2am
[01:10] <GladiaTeur> Ok thanks for the update too
[01:28] <guyFromWeb> hey, finally got my assaultcube server working!!! can anyone help me setup static ip on Ubuntu??
[01:29] <wedgie> out of curiosity, what was the problem from yesterday?
[01:29] <guyFromWeb> i didn't have static ip :D :D
[01:29] <guyFromWeb> so wrong internal ip to portforward
[01:29] <guyFromWeb> well the static ip was the issue
[01:29] <guyFromWeb> i can set it up on mac, not on ubuntu tho
[01:30] <fatfinger> guyFromWeb, isnt that ISP related?
[01:30] <rbux> dafuq..
[01:30] <wedgie> so the portforward was wrong. Got it. You running desktop or server?
[01:30] <exad> guyFromWeb: wouldn't it be easier to set up in the router?
[01:30] <guyFromWeb> fatfinger: sorry, idk what ISP is...
[01:30] <rbux> internet service provider
[01:30] <fatfinger> idk what idk means
[01:31] <guyFromWeb> exad: if i set it up on router, couldn
[01:31] <exad> oh wan :/
[01:31] <rbux> everything behind a router.. idk means i dont know
[01:31] <guyFromWeb> exad: if i set it up on router, couldn't the Ubuntu still change its ip? sorry about these noob questions
[01:31] <rbux> common examples: verizon AT&T Telekom O2
[01:31] <exad> guyFromWeb: is this a server to access outside? or inside the local network?
[01:31] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: it could. 2 ways of doing it: configure a dhcp reservation on your router, or set a static address in ubuntu
[01:32] <guyFromWeb> the server will be accessed by people that will not be connected to my wifi, so outside
[01:32] <exad> guyFromWeb: Then whoever provides your internet will need to provide you with a static ip. It's not usually free
[01:32] <guyFromWeb> O.o
[01:33] <wedgie> exad: i think his immediate problem is that his portforwards stop working when his computer gets a different internal ip from dhcp.
[01:33] <guyFromWeb> i used to have a minecraft server, i had static ip setup ONLY on my mac, and it worked fine
[01:33] <exad> Then you also need a static IP set up locally in your router to point the traffic
[01:33] <rbux> dhcp reservation would be more secure IF you let DHCP manage your entire server-environment-network+subnet
[01:33] <guyFromWeb> so idk why i would need to setup static ip on my router
[01:33] <guyFromWeb> (i don't know) lol
[01:33] <guyFromWeb> (laugh out loud)
[01:34] <rbux> its for security reasons
[01:34] <guyFromWeb> rbux: it's really just for 2-3 people in school xD
[01:34] <rbux> if youre the kinda guy that just doesnt care about clean secure networking just set it up via ifconfig
[01:34] <exad> guyFromWeb: computers have a local ip address to identify them on your personal network and a wan ip address to identify them on the internet
[01:34] <wedgie> rbux: what do dhcp reservations have to do with security?
[01:34] <guyFromWeb> ok
[01:35] <guyFromWeb> i care about security... :D
[01:35] <exad> both need to point to your server to forward the data properly guyFromWeb
[01:35] <guyFromWeb> so i need to pay for it?
[01:35] <rbux> @wedgie dhcp-configuration itself is highly relevant for securing networks in my opinion
[01:35] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: no. These guys are getting ahead of themselves (they're not wrong, just that you have more immediate problems)
[01:35] <exad> you may need to pay your isp to set up a static ip over the internet. but that depends on the ISP. you have to contact them and find out
[01:36] <wedgie> rbux: howso?
[01:36] <guyFromWeb> O.o ah ma
[01:36] <guyFromWeb> *man
[01:36] <edgar> edde222
[01:36] <guyFromWeb> wouldn't this work? https://kb.netgear.com/25722/How-do-I-reserve-an-IP-address-on-my-NETGEAR-router?cid=wmt_netgear_organic
[01:36] <rbux> never pay for anything.. just do everything yourself and get advice from pro's @guyFromWeb :P best way to educate yourself
[01:37] <guyFromWeb> yeah lol
[01:37] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: you have 2 ip addresses that you have to care about: the IP address assigned to your server, and the external ip address assigned to your router.
[01:37] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: short of paying your ISP more money, you don't have any control over the latter, so we'll deal with that in a min
[01:38] <rbux> @wedgie if im totally honest i use unknown protocols for securing networks.. but that would be too much information for guyFromWeb for now :P
[01:38] <guyFromWeb> yes it would xD
[01:38] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: you DO have control over what your server's IP is. And you can control it two ways: dhcp reservation on your router, or statically assigning it on your server
[01:38] <guyFromWeb> wedgie: so if you said that dhcp reservation is paid, i could do the static assign?
[01:39] <rbux> your server should definitely be registered if you use the DHCP-solution..
[01:39] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: no, dhcp reservation is also free. Just something you have to configure in your router. Basically you tell your router to always assign your server the same IP address, based on the server's mac address
[01:40] <guyFromWeb> wow ok i understand part of it, but how could i do that?
[01:40] <wedgie> depends on your router.
[01:40] <guyFromWeb> so can i use this? https://www.manualslib.com/manual/645728/Netgear-Wndr4500v2.html?page=39
[01:40] <guyFromWeb> my router is WNDR4500v2
[01:41] <Jigbot> Tired of niggers?
[01:41] <wedgie> then that looks like what you want.
[01:41] <rbux> if dhcp encounters errors it will not be possible for 'attackers' to hijack your servers IP.. ok.. its just taking them a little longer but its common network-security-guideline :)
[01:41] <kk4ewt> and does your isp give you a dhcp ip or do they give you a static ip
[01:41]  * wedgie squints at rbux
[01:41] <guyFromWeb> wedgie: so i will do the steps provided in the link, now do i still have to do something in Ubuntu? like do the static IP in Ubuntu?
[01:42] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: no, ubuntu is getting its IP from DHCP. And that stuff you're doing on your router is controling what IP your ubuntu gets.
[01:42] <guyFromWeb> kk4ewt: i really don't know, sorry :D
[01:42] <guyFromWeb> wedgie: and it won't affect other users connected to the router, will it?
[01:42] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: shouldn't.
[01:43] <guyFromWeb> ok i'll do that right now
[01:44] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: getting that set up is step 1. The next thing you have to worry about is your external IP (as the others have been talking about). This is the IP that you give to your friends in order for them to connect to your server
[01:44] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: just know that that IP can change over time. In my experience they usually don't change more than a few times a year but there is no gurantee. When it changes you'll have to tell your friends the new address.
[01:45] <guyFromWeb> wedgie: how can you prevent the change?
[01:45] <wedgie> if you want a more stable name that your friends can use, look into Dynamic DNS. That's not really an ubuntu question, though, so google will be your friend
[01:46] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: you can't prevent it from changing. Well, you can, but that would almost certainly involve paying your ISP more money every month
[01:46] <rbux> @wedgie nicely done.. @guyFromWeb www.giyf.com
[01:47] <guyFromWeb> rbux: i can find the steps, i just needed to know WHAT to setup :D
[01:47] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: to be clear, there are 2 different addresses we're talking about. The one assigned to your server (which you are now creating a dhcp reservation for) which is probably 192.168.something
[01:47] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: that one will stay stable for as long as you want
[01:48] <guyFromWeb> okay
[01:48] <wedgie> the other IP is your PUBLIC ip. Go to www.whatismyip.com or a site like that to see it
[01:48] <guyFromWeb> and the one i give my friends is the one that i can google :D
[01:48] <wedgie> that is the one your friends will need to know and is subject to change
[01:49] <rbux> in IT-World its common for beginners that beginning of $something and the end of $something is something you have to redefine without time-parameters :P
[01:50] <guyFromWeb> okay :D
[01:50] <guyFromWeb> thanks all of you guys
[01:50] <rbux> @guyFromWeb if you are generally interestet in setting up servers i recommend www.golang.org its googles language built for inter-server-communication
[01:51] <rbux> at least thats what it was back in 2013
[01:51] <guyFromWeb> rbux: yeah, i wanna get into programming, but i really don't have a good knowledge of networking right now
[01:51]  * wedgie squints at rbux again
[01:51] <wedgie> what does golang have to do with setting up servers?
[01:51] <guyFromWeb> the worst thing is - i know Java (not all, but fairly enough I could say), and they are teaching us BASIC
[01:51] <kk4ewt> guyFromWeb,  so are you setting up a server or just your desktop
[01:52] <rbux> nice. the world needs every padawan :) but 'do not be evil' ;) just keep it in mind when coding
[01:52] <guyFromWeb> kk4ewt: it's on Ubuntu laptop
[01:52] <kk4ewt> then dhcp should be fine for you
[01:52] <guyFromWeb> ye
[01:52] <guyFromWeb> it's just for school really
[01:53] <rbux> @guyFromWeb java-basics are nice but try to learn non-OOP-languages instead.
[01:53] <guyFromWeb> rbux: why
[01:53] <rbux> @guyFromWeb skill-increasement ;)
[01:54] <guyFromWeb> yeah, i didn't start with the best language, but at least i'll have it easier for now (maybe)
[01:54] <rbux> sooner or later you will recognize that its not the matter of language ;)
[01:55] <rbux> they're pretty much all the same.. especially the OOP's
[01:55] <wedgie> guyFromWeb: there is not bad language to learn. Java is a fine first choice. Most concepts transfer readily to other languages. BASIC on the other hand...
[01:55] <rbux> give golang a try.. its easy, well documented, highly powerfull etc...
[01:55] <dTal> don't knock BASIC, it teaches imperative style, variables and control flow without distractions
[01:56] <guyFromWeb> i'll be honest since i know some java then basic is really pointless to me
[01:56] <guyFromWeb> I like Java syntax more :P
[01:56] <wedgie> dTal: perhaps, but i generally prefer to learn on a language that you might actually use in the real world. 2 for 1 that way
[01:57] <rbux> @guyFromWeb i can totally understand your feelings towards BASIC.. and i do not like MS-related Languages as well.. ok i need them sometimes but i dislike 'em :P
[01:58] <guyFromWeb> yep lol
[01:58] <bazhang> !ot | rbux guyFromWeb
[01:58] <rbux> wedgies way is the best.. simplify everything.
[01:58] <dTal> well then it's C for practical programming with a Java like syntax, Python for "git 'er done", and Scheme for learning the ways of the force
[01:58] <bazhang> rbux chit chat elsewhere please
[01:58] <guyFromWeb> oh wow
[01:58] <guyFromWeb> :D
[01:58] <dTal> okay ontopic
[01:59] <guyFromWeb> dTal doesn't get any warning? :D
[01:59] <guyFromWeb> yeah i'm going
[01:59] <guyFromWeb> thanks for the help again
[01:59] <dTal> ubuntu 12.04: all my magic SysRq combinations are scrambled. Space does nothing. 0 does what space should do. m does what 0 should do.
[01:59] <rbux> @bazhang just trying to help guyFromWeb but i totally copy and understand your point.. lets switch to OT cuz it really is gettin OT :)
[02:00] <bazhang> thanks
[02:00] <dTal> thoughts?
[02:01] <dTal> scancodes seem normal
[02:03] <rbux> upgrade to at least 14.04 is my first thougt :P
[02:03] <tengelic> cat proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[02:05] <tengelic> dTal
[02:06] <dTal> tengelic: it's enabled, like I said 0 does what space should do - I get the "help"
[02:06] <dTal> rbux: I installed this with Wubi back in the day, it's running on a Vista NTFS partition
[02:06] <dTal> I'm afraid if I try and upgrade it, it might explode
[02:07] <Bashing-om> !wubi | dTal
[02:08] <dTal> well gee that's useful
[02:08] <dTal> thanks for the advice
[02:09] <tengelic> Choose another tty and check the output of sysrq commands. The 0 record in the forementioned file have nothing to do with space
[02:11] <dTal> tengelic: it is a 1 in the file. Because sysrq is enabled. As is obvious by the fact that alt+sysrq+0 gives me the sysrq help. Which is wrong.
[02:11] <openupthesky> hi all, quick question. I'm trying to configure a mouse in xorg. I set options in a file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d and it works fine at the login screen, but after logging in it gets reset. is there another place I should put it?
[02:12] <openupthesky> ubuntu 16.04.1 lts, btw
[02:14] <tengelic> dTal: do you want to change loglevel?
[02:14] <dTal> no I want sysrq keys to work, or at least identify the pattern behind their wrongness, so that next time the laptop hangs I can sync the filsystems
[02:14] <transitbot> Question
[02:15] <dTal> because frankly hard power-offs are incredibly risky with Wubi
[02:15] <transitbot> I installed a program and went to open it and nothing happened.. how do i see what happened?
[02:15] <RNeville> which video card does Ubuntu support best - AMD or Nvidia?
[02:15] <transitbot> ubunu 14.04
[02:15] <wedgie> transitbot: going to need more details: What program? How did you install it? How did you try to open it?
[02:17] <transitbot> Reason 9 , installed with WINE , trying to open with WINE and nothing happens
[02:20] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Presenly sepends on what card, what release, and your use case . AND is hard at work developing a fully functional open source driver . Currently nVidia works across a larger spectrum .
[02:20] <MarkB2> My computer has three video outputs.  One is on the motherboard, and two more are on a plug-in video card.  There is a selection in the BIOS for primary display.
[02:20] <MarkB2> If I set the primary as motherboard, ubuntu comes up on the display plugged into that port.
[02:21] <MarkB2> If I set it to the plug-in board, ubuntu just crashes.
[02:21] <RNeville> thx Bashing-om
[02:22] <MarkB2> How can I set ubuntu to exclusively use the plug-in board instead of the onboard video?
[02:23] <MarkB2> Please?
[02:24] <MarkB2> I do see the nouveau driver installed... but it seems bound and determined to use the onboard video.
[02:25] <wedgie> MarkB2: can you elaborate on "just crashes"?
[02:26] <MarkB2> No keyboard response.  At least one of the keyboard LEDs flashing.
[02:26] <MarkB2> No response to the power on/off button.
[02:27] <MarkB2> The only way I've found to regain control is to hold down the power button to shut off power then turn power back on.
[02:27] <Bashing-om> RNeville: I can concede in the near future that AMD will be the better choice .
[02:27] <transitbot> :P
[02:27] <MarkB2> Get into the BIOS, flip the video select back to "motherboard", then continue with a normal boot.
[02:28] <tengelic> Bashing-om: I heard that story. Nvidia cards are supported by all game on steam, so it's obvious.
[02:28] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: If this is hybrid " nVidia/Intel " graphics, Then it is the function of 'nvidia-prime' to switch graphic's sets .
[02:29] <MarkB2> Bashing-om: Motherboard is Intel 915, plug-in is NVidial 6200 .
[02:29] <MarkB2> Make that "Nvidia"..
[02:29] <Bashing-om> tengelic: Currently, that is a fact . no doubts .
[02:31] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: If it is one or the other ( non hybrid) then so far as I know bios is the only option to control the chip sets .
[02:32] <MarkB2> Just looked through /var/log/syslog .  It's full of messages from nouveau.  "fail set_domain", "validating bo list", "validate: -22"
[02:32] <MarkB2> There are hundreds of repeats.
[02:34] <Bashing-om> tengelic: But - be aware - I recemtly made that choice and I went nVidia - BUT the card I got is too new and has no support in the 14.04 release for my use case !
[02:35]  * MarkB2 is a newcomer to ubuntu ... more familiar with another distributoin.
[02:35] <MarkB2> grr.. *distribution*
[02:37] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C diplay ' let's consider installing a proprietary driver . - As I noted above . my nVidia card has no nouveau support in 14.04 .
[02:38] <MarkB2> One moment.
[02:39] <newcoder> What's the difference between ubuntu and fedora with gnome? one is .deb and another .rpm, any other difference?
[02:40] <MarkB2> Bashing-om: pastebin.ca ?
[02:40] <cfhowlett> newcoder, too many to list in the support channel.  please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <cfhowlett> newcoder, or read the wikipedia pages
[02:42] <MarkB2> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ca/3760414
[02:47] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: Well, we do have hybrid graphics . But real old card and will losse support from nvicia this year . If ya want we can intall the 304 version proprietary driver ; per http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[02:48] <MarkB2> Bashing-om: I'll take a look at the Nvidia web page.  Would be nice to get both screens running at the same time.
[02:49] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: Well worth trying to install the proprietary driver .. and then you have nvidia-prime to control the graphics . Only takes a couple of commands and it is a done deal .
[02:50] <MarkB2> Looking now.. thanks.
[02:51] <Bashing-om> maddawg2: We want to install - if that is your choice - from the repo with apt ( the package manager ) .
[02:52] <mike_602> Hello. Anyone know how to automatically run a virus scan at boot up?
[02:53] <mike_602> more specifically I'm using Sophos antivirus
[02:53] <underd0g> mike_602: add the program to your startup apps
[02:55] <mike_602> Wish I could, but it's only a command line program
[02:56] <kruger764> First time in an IRC Channel... This is interesting...
[02:56] <mike_602> kruger764, what up :)
[02:56] <underd0g> mike_602: then make a bash script with terminalname (gnome terminal -e (command)
[02:57] <underd0g> mike_602: and then you can add the script to your start up scripts
[02:57] <underd0g> mike_602:
[02:57] <mike_602> underd0g, how do I make a bash script?
[02:57] <underd0g> mike_602: or your Xsession
[02:58] <mike_602> underd0g, can I do via the "startup app pref" and click add, and put the command there? :)
[02:58] <underd0g> mike_602: open an edit or (geany or gedit or vim) then then type the syntax i just told you, and then go into terminal and chmod 755 the file name
[02:59] <underd0g> mike_602: im not sure but try it out
[02:59] <mike_602> thx
[02:59] <underd0g> mike_602: np
[02:59] <mike_602> wonder how I'll know if it ran or not though? :( lol
[03:00] <underd0g> mike_602: check htop or top and see
[03:01] <mike_602> good idea thx
[03:02] <mike_602> underd0g, about to do it now brb and I'll let you know if it worked :)
[03:04] <kruger> What's going on mike_602
[03:05] <kruger> So not sure why but chrome keeps randomly crashing my pc
[03:05] <kruger> Even did a fresh install of ubuntu :/
[03:06] <kruger> ideas anyone?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> dmesg | tail in a terminal might be worth looking at
[03:08] <kruger> Just checked that, not seeing anything obvious
[03:09] <kruger> it's usually when something graphic intensive is going on... such as a video or reddpics
[03:09] <cfhowlett> kruger, launch chrome from the terminal.  keep one eye on the terminal for error messages
[03:09] <cfhowlett> kruger, that failure mode suggests graphics problems.
[03:10] <kruger> Yeah, looking into updating nvidia drivers now.
[03:10] <kruger> Let's see if that helps
[03:10] <AndroUser> odis, hola
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !es | AndroUser
[03:14] <kruger> cfhowlett, time to test out the new drivers.... brb
[03:15] <cfhowlett> fingers X
[03:17] <jony> hola
[03:17] <jony> como estan?
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !es | jony
[03:19] <drinkingjar> Hello, what does 'dobin' mean?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> drinkingjar, this is ubuntu support.  ask ubuntu questions.
[03:26] <Genuine> can someone help me with ip/mac address spoofing?
[03:27] <underd0g> Genuine: what about it
[03:27] <Genuine> i can't change them on my pc i tried to follow a guide but i failed.
[03:27] <mike_602> underd0g, not sure if that worked for the auto antivirus lol no worries though, I'll just do it manually. Cronjob, is that a way to do it manually?
[03:29] <underd0g> Genuine: i would check out kali linux for that and look at torsocks
[03:33] <underd0g> mike_602: did you try that other way you thought of
[03:33] <mike_602> Did way I thought of. Didn't try your way yet
[03:33] <underd0g> mike_602: oh okay
[03:33] <Genuine> underd0g, the website i try to access refuses tor
[03:33] <Genuine> i will look into kali though, thank you.
[03:33] <underd0g> Genuine: yeah alot of webpages dont accept socks proxy but its easy and usefull when it works
[03:34] <Genuine> yap
[03:35] <biocage> Can anyone help with an issue where Chrome makes window management go wonky?
[03:36] <biocage> Often, when I have chrome open, I lose the ability to change windows via mouse, or use keyboard shortcuts for Unity (but alt-tab works, switching to console vt and back to X temporarily restores functionality)
[03:37] <underd0g> Genuine: try hping on ubuntu, its cli
[03:38] <underd0g> biocage: i have no idea why that would happen, but you can try to update chrome or uninstall it and reinstall it
[03:38] <biocage> underd0g: I've tried that with no luck.
[03:41] <jnewt_> I'm getting a segmentation fault when trying to start firefox, just happened out of the blue. several messages before the segmentation fault, would pastebin, but no firefox :(
[03:41] <Ben64> see if any firefox is running (ps aux | grep firefox) and kill them
[03:42] <Ben64> then try starting firefox with a new profile (firefox -P)
[03:42] <jnewt_> negative Ben64, no other instances
[03:42] <jnewt_> tried firefox -P, same result
[03:42] <Ben64> do "firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[03:43] <jnewt_> says "use netcat."
[03:44] <biocage> huh, termbin's cool.
[03:44] <Ben64> biocage: indeed
[03:45] <biocage> nuts termbin doesn't seem to like binary data
[03:45] <jnewt_> small simple browser i can apt-get install quickly?
[03:46] <biocage> jnewt_: links
[03:46] <cfhowlett> jnewt_, read the link about browsers        /msg ubottu browser
[03:46] <Ben64> jnewt: firefox 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:49] <jnewt_> http://termbin.com/chc6
[03:51] <jnewt_> did that termbin help?
[03:54] <jnewt_> the only similar error i can find is someone who may have had too weak hardware.
[04:08] <Etothetaui> when I do "scrot /Pictures/Screenshots" it says saving to file failed
[04:08] <Etothetaui> I want to have my screenshot be saved in a folder other than ~
[04:13] <jnewt_> midori and google chrome work fine.  just firefox is busted
[04:14] <cfhowlett> jnewt_, purge it completely, reinstall.  make sure you remove the .config from /home
[04:15] <thickness> Looking for hacker
[04:16] <Etothetaui> Is there a channel for noobs, because I can't figure this out but I feel liek it's a dumb question
[04:16] <cfhowlett> thickness, look somewhere.  not in this channel
[04:16] <Etothetaui> *like
[04:16] <cfhowlett> Etothetaui, man scrot will tell you quite a bit
[04:17] <jnewt_> cfhowlett, did purge, removed all files from ~/.mozilla, install, start, same error
[04:17] <cfhowlett> jnewt_, sounds like a chat with the mozilla firefox channel might be in order.
[04:18] <Etothetaui> cools
[04:24] <Tabascomang2> I got banned by fail2ban, I removed the ban from iptables. Restarted sshd, fail2ban and firewalld. Also rebooted computer, checked iptables. My IP is not in the reject of any sort. And yet I still get connection timed out with putty.
[04:26] <jim460> I'm getting a "System Error" box at startup with a wizard asking if I'd like to submit the report. How do I find out what the error is and what to do?
[04:29] <cfhowlett>  .......... say "yes" to the report?
[04:30] <wedgie> Tabascomang2: fail2ban can be set up to use hosts.deny... but in any case maybe a better question for #fail2ban
[04:30] <jim460> cfhowlett,  But the message is displayed every time I restart
[04:30] <jim460> cfhowlett, I'm trying to figure out what the problem is so I can correct it.
[04:30] <cfhowlett> because reporting the issue doesn't mean fixed issue.  see your dmesg output
[04:31] <jim460> k checking dmesg
[04:32] <Tabascomang2> I've tried that channel but there's been no response for like 40 minutes now. :(
[04:32] <Tabascomang2> I've checked the hosts.deny too just to be sure, nothing in there too.
[04:33] <jim460> cfhowlett, dear god this is a lot of output. Is there anything I can grep to get the more serious errrors?
[04:33] <kang00> Bhoj hi
[04:33] <cfhowlett> jim460, try tail dmesg for the last part and see if any errors jump out.
[04:34] <jim460> cfhowlett, Nothing stands out.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> I think error reporting is handled by apport but I don't know how to read that output.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> someone else will
[04:34] <jim460> cfhowlett,  Another problem is when I print no matter which program everything is scaled to the corner...The scale settings are at 100% and the print preview looks fine
[04:36] <WormFood> Why is multiarch broken on a fresh install of 16.04? I can install no i386 packages, because every i386 package conflicts with the amd64 packages already installed, such as libc6.
[04:37] <jim460> I'm going to try rebooting...just did some updates and hoping that will fix.
[04:37] <cfhowlett> jim460, I'm on xubuntu so ... never had that issue and no experience using ubuntu with unity.
[04:38] <WormFood> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch and this page is just wrong. I follow their instructions, and it simply doesn't work.
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: have you messed with ppa's of any kind?
[04:39] <WormFood> no lotuspsychje
[04:39] <WormFood> it's a fresh install
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: can you tell us the whole story? whats your endgoal with the libs?
[04:41] <WormFood> My goal is to be able install i386 packages, because they don't release 64-bit packages for the software I need to use, like teamviewer for example.
[04:42] <cfhowlett> WormFood, i386 is a dying platform.  plan ahead.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: ive installed teamviewer on 64bit without issues
[04:43] <WormFood> cfhowlett, what the hell? Do you honestly think I want to use 32-bit packages? I'm forced to use this garbage, because they don't care about Linux, and don't release 64-bit versions of the software I need.
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/previous-versions/
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: teamviewer has multiarch
[04:44] <cfhowlett> my gosh, that looks like 64 bit w/o multiarch
[04:44] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, that isn't really helpful. I'm not a Linux noob. The problem is multiarch is busted, and I don't know what to do to fix it. The ubuntu webpages on the subject are simply wrong. I do what they say, and I get errors.
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: i doubt that multiarch method doesnt, work...perhaps you can only mention your experience
[04:45] <WormFood> What the fuck guys? This is only one program as an example of what doesn't work. Even if I get this to work as a 64-bit program, it still doesn't solve the problem of multiarch not working.
[04:45] <cfhowlett> drop the profanity, WormFood
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: if you do find a broken wiki, please report to the ubuntu ops
[04:46] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, when I try to install the libc6:i386 package, it tells me it conflicts with the libc6 package already installed
[04:47] <WormFood> cfhowlett, you're no help at all. You're not addressing the issues I'm having.
[04:47] <Random832> i don't even understand what instructions you're following, that page doesn't seem to have any
[04:47] <Random832> WormFood, can you paste the exact output?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !info multiarch-support
[04:48] <WormFood> "The need for 32-bit program support on a 64-bit system is indicated by a file /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch containing foreign-architecture i386. It is unwise to disable this unless you know what you are doing." <-- try this on 16.04, and see if you don't get an error too
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: can you try this package?
[04:48] <Random832> WormFood, I have no idea what's going on, but it works for me without ever having had to do such a thing
[04:49] <Random832> and it said "is indicated by". It didn't tell you to create it.
[04:49] <WormFood> Random832, I can't easily copy/paste because it's on a different machine (I personally don't use Ubuntu, I'm doing this for a friend)
[04:49] <WormFood> Random832, the file doesn't exist, and the contents they claim it should have, gives an error.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> hmm component main & required should mean 16.04 is perhaps already multiarch supported?
[04:50] <Random832> ...they didn't tell you to create it. it's probably an implementation detail of an older version of dpkg, but once again *they didn't tell you to create it*, the only instruction they gave regarding that file was not to delete it if it exists
[04:51] <WormFood> Random832, it's not clear, what it should be, because when I make sure it's exactly the way they say it should be, then it doesn't work.
[04:51] <Random832> ...delete the file. they did not tell you to create the file.
[04:52] <WormFood> Well, I'm not going to leave it there, when it's obviously wrong.
[04:52] <Random832> jesus this is an old page and maybe a little bit misleading, but you're not listening
[04:52] <Random832> like did you even try to install it without that?
[04:52] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, mutliatch-support was already installed.
[04:53] <WormFood> of course Random832. I've done everything reasonable to make it install. It constantly hangs, claiming that libc6:i386 conflicts with libc6, and refuses to install anything at that point, or gives me wacky options, to uninstall 1/2 my system
[04:53] <Random832> part of the reason i wanted to know the exact output was to see what versions it is talking about
[04:54] <Random832> what does it do if you try to "apt-get install libc6 libc6:i386" - sometimes i do this if apt gets confused and wants to remove something and it'll tell me the real reason
[04:54] <WormFood> Random832, it's a stock, fresh install of 16.04, from the dvd image. The old user directory has been moved over, but that is all that has been done.
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: like cfhowlett said, 32bit will vanish in the future, perhaps a good time to use 64bit of software on your 64bit system?.
[04:55] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, then perhaps you can convince everyone to release both 32-bit, and 64-bit packages, for their commercial software. Until that time, I'm forced to deal with this 32-bit crap.
[04:56] <WormFood> And yes, 32-bit is dying, but it still has a lot of life left in it. I still program on 8-bit (embedded) systems, so nothing is truly dead, it's just shifts uses.
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: if you find a broken wiki method, please report to #ubuntu-ops
[05:00] <WormFood> libc6: breaks libc6:i386 (!=2.23-0ubuntu3) but 2.21-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[05:00] <shortstheory> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz (797MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (3.0 GiB Free) Swap: 2.7 GiB Total (2.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 211.2 GB / 257.0 GB (45.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 520 @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 1d 9h 31m 5s
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> shortstheory: system showoffs in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss please
[05:01] <cristiano> hi
[05:01] <Guest21767> how to doing
[05:02] <Guest21767> how u doing
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Guest21767
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: is your system up to date?
[05:03] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and it doesn't do anything. Well, it just updated google-chrome, so it shows that it is working, but it hasn't updated any ubuntu packages, that I've seen.
[05:03] <Guest21767> which linux is best for hacking
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: lsb_release -a plz
[05:04] <WormFood> Ubuntu 16.04.01 LTS
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !piracy | Guest21767
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: ok, looks good
[05:05] <WormFood> I can't copy/paste it, but I believe that is the most relevant thing from that output that you'd want.
[05:05] <jim460> I'm getting a Internal Error box on restart. It is saying cups-daemon 2.1.3-4 crash.  This keeps happening.. What to do? Reinstall Cups? I'm also having issues with printing all of a sudden and imagine it is related.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !info libc6-i386
[05:07] <Guest21767> tell me guys
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !info libc6-i386 xenial
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> hmm weird, apt-cache shows it
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: on my system it installed correctly : libc6-i386 (2.23-0ubuntu5)
[05:10] <Countess_Bathory> Guest21767 log in to google then, do some google searches on that question
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> WormFood: with sudo apt install libc6-i386
[05:11] <jim460> How do I reinstall CUPS? It's crashing on me
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !cups | jim460
[05:11] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Package libc6-i386 >> xenial-updates (libs): GNU C Library: 32-bit shared libraries for AMD64  >>> 2.23-0ubuntu5: amd64 .
[05:11] <Guest21767> why r u not replying guest
[05:12] <Guest21767> why r u not replying guest 212767
[05:13] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, still no go. I think I know what the problem is. I'll let you know what I find.
[05:14] <jim460> lotuspsychje, Thanks but is it against channel policy on telling me how to reinstall cups?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> jim460: cups is a service, after a reboot should work out of the box
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> jim460: perhaps stop/start the service can fix your issue?
[05:16] <jim460> lotuspsychje,  CUPS was working just fine. Out of nowhere it started crashing. Rebooting the system does NOT help.
[05:16] <jim460> lotuspsychje,  I tried doing all updates and restarting but it is still a problem.
[05:18] <malkauns> is there any environment other than compiz that does trail-focus?
[05:18] <jim460> lotuspsychje, I've tried sudo tasksel remove print-server  and then sudo tasksel install print-server
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> jim460: on wich ubuntu is this?
[05:19] <jim460> lotuspsychje,  Newest version of Xubuntu
[05:21] <avis> i love ubuntu more than debian
[05:22] <avis> debian may have save my life, but too many of you i loved
[05:23] <peaches870> Hello.
[05:23] <peaches870> I am trying to use Ricochet IM with my Ubuntu.
[05:24] <peaches870> It says that my contact was added in October.
[05:24] <peaches870> But says Request Pending.
[05:24] <peaches870> Is this because they are not online?
[05:24] <jim460> I'm at a loss at how to fix this. Would I seriously need to reinstall Ubuntu or switch Distros just because CUPS is crashing? Printing is vital.
[05:24] <peaches870> Will they receive my request only when we are online at the same time?
[05:24] <peaches870> They've never received any request from me but as yet we haven't been online at the same time.
[05:25] <xXEoflaOEXx> peaches870, You have sent them a request, so they must be online, else, it will not work. You must re-request only whether they have logged in.
[05:25] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, I'm 99% sure, my problem was caused because the "best" repo it picked, is out of date. Now it's updating all the ubuntu packages, and I expect after that, it will work as it should. I'll let you know one way or the other.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !yay | WormFood
[05:27] <peaches870> xXEoflaOEXx, You are familiar with Ricochet?
[05:27] <peaches870> xXEoflaOEXx, So we need to be online at the same time for the request to be seen?
[05:27] <peaches870> xXEoflaOEXx, With other IM programs the request is sent and received whether or not the other party is online at the same time.
[05:27] <peaches870> Is this because of the TOR aspect?
[05:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> peaches870, Yes, You need to be online at the same time for the request to be seen. but if other people received the request on other I'm programs and they are offline, they received it.
[05:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> IM*
[05:31] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, I'm not there yet, But I think this will fix the problem
[05:31] <peaches870> xXEoflaOEXx, Interesting, and this is because of the TOR part?
[05:31] <xXEoflaOEXx> peaches870, Yes, but I am not sure.
[05:32] <peaches870> xXEoflaOEXx, Is Ricochet is one of the best simple to use encrypted chat IM programs?
[05:32] <xXEoflaOEXx> peaches870, Yes, but I am not sure.
[05:33] <peaches870> You said the same thing in your last response.
[05:36] <avis> debian is so mean.  #debian freenode saw me at my best, and loved me entirely.  then they screwed up permanetly and not my fault just to piss me off for being awesome.  i use ubuntu !!!!!
[05:41] <xXEoflaOEXx> avis, Do you have your Ubuntu question?
[05:43] <malkauns> i do
[05:43] <malkauns> is there any environment other than compiz that does trail-focus?
[06:00] <deus402> tomreyn: still no outages, longest record yet
[06:23] <jeffreylevesque> if i want a minimal user
[06:23] <jeffreylevesque> what groups should he be included in by default?
[06:24] <jeffreylevesque> users,input?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> jeffreylevesque, I'm on xubuntu 16.04.  my desktop user settings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23867881/
[06:29] <jeffreylevesque> nice
[06:29] <jeffreylevesque> i found - https://wiki.debian.org/SystemGroups
[06:46] <jeffreylevesque> how can i disable `sudo su`
[06:47] <jeffreylevesque> so users can only type sudo?
[06:54] <elias_a> Any suggestions on antivirus/malware detection sw for Ubuntu? Been running my PC for ages without but now I think it might be a good thing in order to protect other people.
[06:55] <hateball> !virus | elias_a
[06:58] <elias_a> hateball: Well, as I said, I think I need to protect other people. Scanning email would be a good thing for instance.
[06:59] <cfhowlett> elias_a, in my experience: enable firewall, adblockers adn default java/flash to off.  run rootkithunter once in a while.  tell browswer to flush each session and save nothing.  YMMV
[06:59] <elias_a> hateball: And limiting the risk to recipicients running Windows is not enough as there are also Android viruses and exploits out there.
[07:00] <elias_a> cfhowlett: How do you make sure you are not passing on viruses via email, then?
[07:00] <hateball> elias_a: So read up on the options then
[07:01] <elias_a> hateball: Will do.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> elias_a, never has happened yet but on my email client- thunderbird, I have my settings set pretty high on the security side.
[07:09] <CoderEurope> Happy Australia day !
[07:19] <neeedhelpplz> Hello
[07:19] <neeedhelpplz> can anyone help me with a problem I am having please?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !ask neeedhelpplz
[07:20] <cfhowlett> !ask | neeedhelpplz
[07:20] <neeedhelpplz> ok I had win10 on a hardrive and ubuntu on a secondary. I formatted the hard drive containing ubuntu, now when I turn on my computer it boots into grub recovery. How do I remove this?
[07:21] <Wumbel> Set the first boot device to windows boot
[07:22] <cfhowlett> neeedhelpplz, this ^^^
[07:22] <neeedhelpplz> I have tried that as I was using windows as my primary OS and have not touched the boot order
[07:23] <cfhowlett> neeedhelpplz, there should be a windows 10 tool to fix the bootloader
[07:23] <neeedhelpplz> so now if I want to enter into windows I have to select the boot device before grub starts
[07:23] <Ben64> does it boot when you select the right device?
[07:23] <neeedhelpplz> yes it boots straight into windows no problem if I select it
[07:24] <Wumbel> make it permanent
[07:24] <Ben64> then change it in the bios, and you're done
[07:24] <dev__> You can install the windows bootloader from win installation disc
[07:24] <neeedhelpplz> my bios is a little weird it does not show me the name of the boot devices, it shows UEFI hard disc
[07:24] <dev__> Shift+F10, loads cmd
[07:26] <neeedhelpplz> let me have a go again and see what I can do thanks
[07:26] <dev__> .exit
[07:30] <ilyaigpetrov> Hi. How long will it take before Chromium 55 will be added to Ubuntu Trusty repositories?
[07:30] <CoderEurope> dunno
[07:30] <cfhowlett> ilyaigpetrov, no way for us to know for sure so ... "when it's ready".
[07:30] <ilyaigpetrov> Chrome 55 was released so long ago, more than a month ago I think
[07:33] <WormFood> lotuspsychje, It's working now. It wasn't updating packages, for some reason, but changing the repo fixed that.
[07:36] <karstenk> Good morning! I have a 20GB Partition with my encrypted $User folder. Is there any chance to get the data from inside? I have my passphrase. But as I have used ecryptfs-recover-private I had only a readme file and a Access your private desktop file. But the size of the encrypted folder is about 16GB of the 20GB available.
[07:37] <karstenk> origin that partition was mounted as /home
[07:43] <bhikkhusubhuti> Need some help. My ic-recorder recently started locking up my computer.  It does not do this in a live boot.  anyone out there?
[07:44] <blinkingprompt1> lol
[07:49] <Speiros> Where do I go for help with commands in Terminal?
[07:50] <EriC^^> here
[07:50] <Speiros> Ah, thanks EriC^^.
[07:51] <Bashing-om> Speiros: Here for ubutu is fine .. but ya might want to do in terminal <command> --help .
[07:51] <Speiros> Thanks too, Bashing-om.
[07:52] <Speiros> I seem to be stuck right at the beginning.  ls is showing my directory I want to enter (just the desktop), but when I cd /Desktop it says it can't be found, but it is there.
[07:52] <EriC^^> cd Desktop without /
[07:52] <EriC^^> or cd ~/Desktop
[07:52] <Speiros> EriC^^ Ok, I'll give it a shot.
[07:53] <EriC^^> ~/ means home dir
[07:53] <Ben64> when you start with / it means the root directory
[07:53] <Speiros> Ah, makes sense:)  Thanks, and it worked too.
[07:53] <Speiros> Cheers too Ben64:)
[07:53] <Ben64> if you wanted to start with / you'd have to do like... 'cd /home/$USER/Desktop'
[07:54] <Speiros> Ben64 Yeah, I had trouble getting in from that angle, but got into home through it, but not the username  lol, probably the symbols used in the username.
[07:55] <Ben64> if you type it exactly how i have up there, it'll work
[07:55] <Ben64> or put in your actual username
[07:55] <bhikkhusubhuti> anyone know why my usb-ic-recorder locks up ubuntu.  How to reset the list of usb devices it knows.  liveboot does not do this.  ic-recorder used to work.. I plugged it in while it was playing..
[07:55] <Speiros> Thanks:)
[07:58] <nwe> hmm how should the preseed file for uefi looks?... I have problem with this one.. http://pastebin.com/9rhT6nAk
[07:58] <ZJAY> does anyone know why finger isn't installed automatically on ubuntu?
[07:58] <EriC^^> sexual harrassment lawsuits
[07:59] <EriC^^> j/k
[07:59] <ZJAY> lol
[07:59] <JP____> What was the software install application for lubuntu again?
[08:00] <JP____> *the visual one*
[08:00] <ZJAY> is it safe to install no security issues with it if anyone knows?
[08:02] <JP____> What was the software install application for lubuntu again?
[08:03] <CoderEurope> JP____: try #lubuntu
[08:03] <JP____> they are dead :(
[08:03] <JP____> but i think i found it
[08:03] <JP____> thnx
[08:04] <Haris> hello all
[08:04] <Haris> how do I manually get pkgs for 14.04 LTS ? I have no Internet access to this one site
[08:04] <Haris> to=at
[08:04] <dev__> Which package
[08:04] <Haris> its a DR (disaster recovery) setup
[08:04] <Haris> php pkgs
[08:05] <Haris> php5-5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.19
[08:05] <Speiros> I've made my way into the directory I wanted to be in, and although I can see that files exist in the folder, I can't seem to "see" them through Terminal to make the changes I want to make.
[08:05] <Haris> php5-cli, php5-common, php5-curl, gd..
[08:05] <dev__> Internet access to which site
[08:05] <EriC^^> Speiros: what command are you using to edit them?
[08:05] <mnf> hello
[08:06] <Haris> general Internet access .. is not available at this site
[08:06] <Speiros> I'm removing metadata off my pics.  I'm using exiftool.
[08:06] <Speiros> EriC^^  Sorry, meant that to you mate.
[08:06] <Haris> so can't install on auto through apt-get auto-Internet fetch
[08:06] <dev__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/974/how-can-i-install-software-or-packages-without-internet-offline
[08:07] <EriC^^> Speiros: what error does it say? what command are you using?
[08:08] <Speiros> EriC^^ I'm typing "exiftool -all=/imagename.jpg"
[08:08] <Speiros> It says "No file specified", yet the file is exactly what I'm typing.
[08:09] <EriC^^> Speiros: the "/"
[08:10] <EriC^^> shouldn't be there
[08:10] <Speiros> EriC^^ Ah, okay.  Thanks.  I'll have another go without it.
[08:10] <Haris> need to reconnect wifi. bbl
[08:10] <doublejane> hi there, could i ask a noob question: where is @/tmp/dbus... from the output of lsof?
[08:11] <Speiros> EriC^^ Thanks.  Worked a whizz:)
[08:11] <EriC^^> Speiros: cool, np :)
[08:11] <bhikkhusubhuti> perhaps I should say how to reset the list of usb devices in Ubunut
[08:12] <bhikkhusubhuti> It works in a LIVE USB but not in my installed session (anymore)
[08:25] <Dave114> anyway to mount encrypted HFS partitions in Ubuntu these days?
[08:25] <Speiros> Thanks for your help EriC^^, Ben64, and Bashing-om.  Mission complete:)
[08:28] <soud> hi guys, somehow my disk is at 98%, but / seems to only contain less than half. see https://bpaste.net/show/501c102e0ee7 . any idea why it's showing 95G in use when really it's only 33G?
[08:29] <flain> Hi. I have a problem. I can't seem to find what causes my port 8000 to be blocked. Using the command "sudo lsof -i -P -n | grep LISTEN", the program "webfsd" of user "www-data" appears to be the one using. With "nmap localhost", it shows "http-alt". I know I can just "kill" it, but I want to know what causes it. It was not like this last week. Thanks.
[08:33] <avieks> if i want to reinstall windows, will it destroy my dual boot?
[08:34] <malkauns> most likely
[08:34] <avieks> that's what i expected too
[08:34] <avieks> :/
[08:34] <Speiros> avieks Considered a virtual computer?
[08:34] <ducasse> !fixgrub | avieks
[08:34] <avieks> nice. thanks
[08:34] <PickledEggs> flain: webfsd is a webserver
[08:34] <EriC^^> avieks: set it to manual partitioning and then follow ubottu 's link
[08:35] <PickledEggs> flain: have you tried visiting http://localhost:8000 from a browser?
[08:35] <flain> PickledEggs: I tried. And it says "File or directory not found"
[08:37] <flain> I haven't started any server before running an appengine app which also binds to 8000. Then failed. I usually kill the app using it beforehand so the bind becomes a success.
[08:43] <Ben64> flain: you already figured it out. webfsd is running on that port
[08:44] <flain> Ben64: Yeah, but is it possible to know what application made the command?
[08:45] <Ben64> flain: .....webfsd
[08:49] <flain> Ben64: I see. I'll just have to figure out how it runs on boot.
[08:49] <Ben64> you installed it for some reason
[08:49] <Ben64> you could just ... uninstall it
[08:50] <xcvxcv> o/
[08:50] <flain> Ben64: Maybe the updates? I recently updated via System Updates without reading stuff.
[08:50] <doublejane> flain: i found in archlinux that systemctl can give a list of all the startup programs
[08:51] <Ben64> flain: nah, you installed it
[08:51] <flain> Ben64: If I uninstall, won't it have any side-effect on my system?
[08:52] <doublejane> flain: r u using virtual machine? that could make life easier
[08:53] <Ben64> flain: unless you need it, nope
[08:55] <PickledEggs> flain: what do you get if you run 'dpkg -S webfsd'
[08:56] <xcvxcv> exit
[08:57] <humoroustwo> Good morning
[08:58] <PickledEggs> flain: or 'apt-cache rdepends webfsd'?
[08:58] <PickledEggs> humoroustwo: good morning
[08:59] <humoroustwo> After I create a hotspot (and close it again), network-manager doesn't show any wireless networks, and reports that all networks are out of range
[08:59] <humoroustwo> I can still connect to networks through 'connect to a hidden network', but obviously this is a bit inconvenient
[09:00] <doublejane> humoroustwo: could it be a bug of network-manager? what says in wicd?
[09:00] <ragecraze> guys when i start my computer, i have wifi and everything is great, if i restart it says no wifi detected? i have to restart again to be able to connect to wifi!
[09:00] <humoroustwo> Also the network indicator is bugged, and shows the wrong icons (it's currently showing the up/down arrows)
[09:01] <ragecraze> how do i solve this?
[09:01] <doublejane> ragecraze: bro just restart the network: sudo /etc/networking restart
[09:01] <humoroustwo> ragecraze, It might be worth doing this as a startup script, it's what I did
[09:02] <flain> PickledEgg: It says: /usr/share/man/man1/webfsd.1.gz  | /usr/bin/webfsd  |  /usr/share/webfs.conf.auto
[09:02] <humoroustwo> ragecraze, does it do the same thing when you suspend and resume?
[09:02] <flain> doublejane: No, I'm not using virtual machine.
[09:03] <flain> PickledEggs: apt-cache says no packages found.
[09:03] <ragecraze> humoroustwo i dont know i havent tried
[09:03] <ragecraze> is this a common problem?
[09:03] <flain> I guess I could just uninstall webfsd then? I currently see no need for it.
[09:04] <humoroustwo> I couldn't say :/ all I now is that it affected me
[09:04] <doublejane> flain: i know some IT managers always worry about changing the system. In this case we always use VM to test. If system booms then just recover it from snapshot
[09:04] <humoroustwo> PickledEggs: I don't have wicd. Restarting network manager does not fix it
[09:04] <brianhunter> alkis: I appear to have sorted the issue I mentioned yesterday about Ubuntu freezing when playing video.  It appeared to have been an issue with my CPU CSTATE.  The editing grub solution from the following link to force a cstate of 1 seems to have done the job - https://askubuntu.com/questions/761706/ubuntu-15-10-and-16-04-keep-freezing-randomly  - Thanks for your help yesterday.
[09:04] <humoroustwo> I'm on U16.10
[09:05] <flain> doublejane: That's a very helpful info. Let me fire up a VM.
[09:05] <doublejane> humoroustwo: is wlan on? u may check it by running ifconfig
[09:05] <humoroustwo> One sec, going to debianpaste
[09:06] <humoroustwo> doublejane: It does look like wlan is on
[09:06] <humoroustwo> Worth noting that I'm connect via wifi right now
[09:08] <doublejane> then it should be a problem of network-manager, just forget about it and use wicd-gtk instead
[09:11] <humoroustwo> Well that is odd
[09:11] <flain> doublejane: It seems that webfsd does not exist in Ubuntu's default packages. I guess it is safe to remove, and maybe if something requires it, then I'll install it again.
[09:11] <humoroustwo> Is the nm-applet --sm-disable flag depricated?
[09:12] <humoroustwo> doublejane: Running that command fixed it... somehow
[09:12] <flain> Thanks PickledEggs, Ben64, doublejane. :)
[09:13] <PickledEggs> flain: good luck
[09:13] <doublejane> humoroustwo: thats cool, so u still love network-manager
[09:14] <doublejane> flain: gl bro, have u remove the rc.d script of it?
[09:15] <flain> doublejane: What do you mean?
[09:15] <doublejane> that could prevent the program from startup
[09:16] <humoroustwo> doublejane: no comment
[09:16] <humoroustwo> It took me ages to get my hotspot working in the first place
[09:17] <flain> doublejane: Where can I find rc.d?
[09:17] <flain> Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob haha
[09:18] <doublejane> probably by scaning it: find /etc | grep <program name>
[09:19] <doublejane> grep -r <program name> /etc
[09:19] <flain> doublejane: I see it. Do I remove it (or just rename it to something else)?
[09:19] <doublejane> more preciesly, change /etc into /etc/rc*.d
[09:20] <doublejane> u could just move them out of rc*.d folder
[09:21] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu 14.04... after i do reconfig /etc/network/interfaces... how to restart the network... i do /etc/init.d/networking restart but it don't use latest config
[09:21] <geirha> The preferred method of adjusting the sysvinit scripts, is with the update-rc.d command
[09:22] <flain> doublejane: Oh, the only item found was /etc/webfsd.conf. Nothing was found in rc folders.
[09:24] <geirha> could be a systemd service
[09:25] <boy_30m> #davao
[09:27] <doublejane> service --status-all
[09:27] <boy_30m> #phippines
[09:28] <flain> geirha, doublejane: [+] webfsd shows in "service --status-all"
[09:28] <flain> I mean webfs
[09:29] <doublejane> yea just disable it
[09:29] <geirha> if you uninstall the package, it should remove the service as well
[09:29] <doublejane> may use rcconf command
[09:33] <geirha> but it's not an rc script ...
[09:35] <doublejane> the name of rcconf is a fake, it is only a friendly gui to enable/disable services
[09:36] <doublejane> update-rc.d is better
[09:37] <doublejane> 'sysv-rc-conf list' + 'update-rc.d' = chkconfig@old.version.ubuntu
[09:37] <doublejane> fml
[09:41] <soud> hi guys, somehow my disk is at 98%, but / seems to only contain less than half. see https://bpaste.net/show/501c102e0ee7 . any idea why it's showing 95G in use when really it's only 33G?
[09:41] <mathematic-alpha> Hi all .  I have issues booting Ubuntu after installing windows
[09:42] <ppf>  soud run that du assudo
[09:43] <ObrienDave> mathematic-alpha, you need to install windows first then ubuntu
[09:43] <k1l_> soud: sudo du -sh /*
[09:43] <k1l_> mathematic-alpha: run the ubuntu usb and reinstall the ubuntu bootloader?
[09:44] <kang00> Rufus can process any of below file?
[09:45] <kang00> .img or .iso or .vhd of os?
[09:45] <k1l_> kang00: it works with ubuntu.iso files
[09:45] <The_Myth> .iso for sure. the others i dnt know
[09:45] <mathematic-alpha> K1l_ thanks but not sure of how to do it
[09:46] <cotin> @tatertots
[09:46] <k1l_> !bootrepair | mathematic-alpha
[09:46] <tatertots> hiya cotin
[09:47] <mathematic-alpha> Thanks k1l_
[09:47] <hanspeter> Hello
[09:47] <flain> doublejane, geirha: So I used rcconf to disable the webfs service. Maybe this will solve it finally? Haha
[09:47] <kang00> Ubuntu is shared in .img file also?
[09:47] <ObrienDave> iso
[09:47] <hanspeter> Does anyone know how to play Microsoft's AOE3 on Linux?
[09:48] <k1l_> !wine | hanspeter
[09:48] <k1l_> hanspeter: and look at their app database to see how good its runnning and what to do
[09:48] <hanspeter> I use wine but it tells me "Grapics driver missing"
[09:49] <gum_> help! I am unable to play video on ubuntu 16.04 lts in mozilla browser website is http://www.hotstar.com
[09:49] <hanspeter> Try another browser gum_
[09:49] <hanspeter> Or install Adobe Flash
[09:49] <doublejane> flain: sure, u can reboot afterwards and see
[09:50] <k1l_> gum_: what is the error?
[09:50] <gum_> hanspeter and this is also not working in chrome too. but in windows platform this works  on both browser
[09:50] <doublejane> u guys wanna play video games on linux?
[09:50] <gum_> k1l_ : no error just black screen
[09:51] <flain> I see. Thank you guys doublejane and geirha! :)
[09:51] <doublejane> i used qemu with a graphic card to play video games
[09:51] <hanspeter> what is qemu
[09:52] <k1l_> gum_: install adobe-flashplugin package
[09:53] <doublejane> https://bufferoverflow.io/gpu-passthrough/
[09:53] <gum_> k1l_ package name ? "Unable to locate package"
[09:53] <doublejane> heres the instruction for qemu
[09:53] <k1l_> gum_: enable patner repo
[09:54] <gum_> k1l_ what is it? "enable : patner not a shell builtin"
[09:55] <k1l_> !partner
[09:55] <clissold345> !flash | gum_
[09:56] <gum_> clissold345 ubottu : it is already installed
[09:57] <k1l_> gum_: "apt-cache policy adobe-flashplugin | nc termbin.com 9999" please show the output url in here
[09:58] <gum_> k1l_ : http://termbin.com/f4xx
[09:58] <k1l_> as you see its not installed
[09:59] <gum_> k1l_ : so how to installed it. in software center its shows abode flash plugin in installed. and also gives option to remove
[09:59] <k1l_> gum_: sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin
[10:01] <gum_> k1l_ :  Now i installed it but video is not playing.
[10:01] <k1l_> restart firefox
[10:05] <gum_> k1l_ : it not working . but video shows loading .
[10:06] <vlt> Hello. How can I tell Firefox to ignore already runnning instances and start anyway? I want to get rid of the “Firefox is already running but not responding” message.
[10:09] <gum_> help ! video is not playing in browser mozilla on ubuntu 16.04 lts website is http://www.hotstar.com
[10:09] <gum_> its only loading just like that https://imagebin.ca/v/3ACajN4PprdN
[10:11] <gum_> ?
[10:12] <k1l_> gum_: same for me. looks like the site got issues
[10:12] <gum_> k1l: but why its works fine on window platform for mozilla and chrome brower
[10:21] <plato_> im unable to play .flac extension files on 16.04, can someone help?
[10:21] <k1l_> plato_: what error do you get?
[10:22] <plato_> k1l_, when i try to open it with parole i get "gstreamer backend error - could not determine type of stream"
[10:22] <k1l_> is the file ok?
[10:23] <plato_> k1l_, it's partially downloaded
[10:23] <k1l_> so no?
[10:23] <plato_> k1l_, but partially downloaded files of other extensions work fine, such as mp3 and so on
[10:24] <k1l_> i dont know if that works with flac.
[10:25] <plato_> k1l_, earlier a 0day exploit was discovered within gstreamer and was patched. i noticed that ubuntu-restricted-extras no longer allows you to play mp4 files in firefox as a result, does this occur for you also?
[10:28] <k1l_> is the package "flac" installed?
[10:32] <sachin> Hello! anyone tell me the process to create bootable drive with presistant storage using dd command?
[10:34] <Speiros> Bye folks.  Have a great day.
[10:39] <plato_> k1l_, yes
[10:42] <nwe> hello, I have problem with preseed and uefi to work.. It´s running my preseed file, but it make the disk totally wrong.. what Im doing wrong with the partition? http://pastebin.com/6pshaVfr
[10:50] <brunch875> I hate having to pull my phone to check authenticator codes. Is there an ubuntu application for that?
[10:51] <k1l_> brunch875: the general idea behind 2fa is, that its not the same device.
[10:54] <brunch875> k1l_: even so, I'd like to give up a bit of security for commodity without disabling it completely
[10:56] <jamesp_> Hello everyone, pulling my hair out with LXC containers and IP routing, can anyone help me? So Ive got 3 public ip addresses. I tried this example http://askubuntu.com/questions/256304/public-ip-address-for-lxc-container
[10:56] <jamesp_> Everything can up but the IP in the container is not pingable
[10:57] <jhonnyBeGood> LOG:  using stale statistics instead of current ones because stats collector is not responding .... The stat process does not start up
[10:57] <jhonnyBeGood> why????
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:12] <jamesp_> So any advice anyone has on containers, would be fab
[11:12] <jamesp_> :)
[11:12] <Guest1243> morning guys
[11:14] <nock> Could somebody help restore the splash screen please? It disappeared after updating to yakkety. No googled solution works :( and i've tried many
[11:16] <helpplease> what's the alternative to HOSTS file when I need a format like "80.80.81.82     80.80.81.83", instead of: "80.80.81.82      myhostname"? either I'm doing something wrong or it won't work with 2 numeric hosts
[11:20] <ppf> there's no such thing as 'numeric hosts'
[11:21] <ppf> there are hostnames and ip addresses
[11:21] <ppf> if you want your machine to have to ip addresses, then assign both to your interface
[11:24] <hateball> helpplease: if you want to redirect traffic from one ip to another you'll need to use iptables
[11:24] <YoDo> when is weechat in ubuntu's default repo gonna be updated?
[11:25] <helpplease> hateball: what's the alternative to hosts redirect using iptables?
[11:26] <ppf> you rewrite outgoing/incoming ip addresses that match the ip you wish to alias
[11:35] <helpplease> ppf: how do I do that?
[11:38] <tec_> hi
[11:38] <ppf> helpplease: https://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/NAT-HOWTO-6.html
[11:38] <tec_> ma scuppiai
[11:39] <tec_> ciao me fra
[11:39] <tec_> dopo mu vidu mbare
[11:41] <helpplease> ppf: don't you know how?
[11:42] <ppf> helpplease: did you look at that link at all? that's iptable documentation on how to do address translations
[11:43] <helpplease> ppf: yes or no
[11:45] <ppf> i won't be spoonfeeding it to you, if that's your question
[11:50] <k1l> YoDo: after the release ubuntu packages only get security and heavy bugfix updates. but no verison upgrades.
[11:52] <YoDo> thanks
[12:32] <alan__> :)
[12:33] <quickwritereader> hi
[12:33] <alan__> hi
[12:37] <bhikkhusubhuti> need help resetting usb devices.  My Sony Voice Recorder was plugged in while playing.  Now it locks up my commputer if I plug it in again.  It never did this before.  Live USB of mate does not lock up when I plug it in  HELP
[12:38] <bhikkhusubhuti> My USB is not broken.  But something inside ubuntu is broken specifically for this device.  Other usb devices work fine
[12:39] <bhikkhusubhuti> sorry .. liveusb of mate can run my sony device fine
[12:40] <Ben64> have you tried restarting
[13:01] <kaxmi> Salam, I installed ubuntu on a 16GB USB, I have 2 DDR3 2GB RAM, It's a little bit slow (Live version was faster). I'm using ext4 for this USB...
[13:02] <kaxmi> What should I do to fix that ?!
[13:02] <ikevin> kaxmi, does all your drivers are installed?
[13:02] <kaxmi> @ikevin Hello, Yes it is...
[13:05] <kaxmi> How about converting ext4 to ntfs ?
[13:06] <ikevin> ntfs is a windows fs
[13:06] <kaxmi> Is ext3 ok ? cause it installed on a USB.
[13:07] <ikevin> ext4 is perfect, so, you can tune some things like adding "noatime" option to your mount options
[13:08] <ikevin> you can also use tools like "atop" to see what ressources are used
[13:10] <kaxmi> @kevin tnx dear <3
[13:15] <jamesp_> When using iptables, is it possible the firewall runs before the NAT prerouting?
[13:15] <jamesp_> so firewall comes first, then the NAT
[13:16] <jamesp_> at the moment seems NAT is taking effect way before the firewall, so rules are ignored.
[13:17] <ikevin> jamesp_, you mean INPUT/OUTPUT filtering before prerouting?
[13:26] <jamesp_> yes ikevin :)
[13:26] <ikevin> jamesp_, you can use the "forward" table for that
[13:27] <jamesp_> Oh right, hmm this could be fun
[13:27] <jamesp_> any examples mate?
[13:28] <jamesp_> if im missing a SNAT rule on my firewall, for my NAT
[13:29] <efli> дорогу в русский чат убунту, хелп плиз!
[13:29] <jamesp_> could that stop that server being able to get an outgoing internet connection?
[13:29] <jamesp_> it can be seen from the outside world, but has not outgoing internet
[13:29] <k1l> !ru | efli
[13:30] <ikevin> jamesp_, iptables -A FORWARD -i enp0s7 -o vnet0 -p tcp --dport 1500 -j DROP
[13:34] <jamesp_> Hmm this is very annoying, so ive got LXC containers with some additonal external IPs
[13:35] <jamesp_> hitting that ip from outside world routes to the container fine, via NAT
[13:35] <jamesp_> but the container has no internet outgoing
[13:45] <Bl4ckK4ne> hello
[13:48] <okwaho> hey
[13:49] <jamesp_> yay i got it working, gateway was not right
[14:11] <michal__> hello, i just installed ubuntu 16.10 and softwere center dosent start. I updated os and upgraded but still no luck.
[14:11] <michal__> Can someone help me please :) ?
[14:15] <HumanAI> hi there op fearing folks
[14:15] <michal__> yo
[14:17] <hateball> michal__: you ran "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" ?
[14:17] <hateball> michal__: if you try starting software center from a terminal, does it give any interesting output?
[14:17] <jamesp_> I have this forwarding iptables rule ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:http
[14:18] <jamesp_> with default chain as drop
[14:18] <jamesp_> however the access to the website is not working
[14:18] <jamesp_> if i remove the rule and set default action to accept, it works
[14:18] <jamesp_> any ideas what im doing wrong>
[14:20] <jamesp_> all the rule does is , if tcp connection has destination port of 80
 if i remove the rule and set default action to accept, it works <== allow ESTABLISHED,RELATED connection
[14:33] <ikevin> jamesp_, iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[14:37] <jamesp_> ok will give it a try
[14:39] <jamesp_> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:http state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
[14:40] <jamesp_> still not getting the website showing though
[14:40] <ikevin> you have set all in 1 rule?
[14:40] <jamesp_> yes
[14:40] <jamesp_> is that not right?
[14:40] <ikevin> do it on 2 rules
[14:40] <jamesp_> righto
[14:41] <ikevin> if it's not working, be sure it's http and not https
[14:41] <jamesp_> working! - so if i block port 80 now that forward will stop?
[14:42] <ikevin> if you want to stop the forward, just remove the forward rule
[14:42] <jamesp_> ok so ive got this
[14:42] <jamesp_> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere             state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
[14:42] <jamesp_> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:https
[14:42] <jamesp_> yes i know its https :)
[14:42] <jamesp_> but 80 is still working
[14:43] <ikevin> look like ok, 2nd rule allow new connection, 1st rule allow if connection is already established
[14:44] <jamesp_> im lost, sorry im not the best at iptables lol
[14:44] <jamesp_> i jsut wanna be able to filter out ports so they can be blocked before the NAT takes over
[14:45] <jamesp_> so only port 80,442 goes to one server  but only 22 might go to another server
[14:45] <jamesp_> the nat is working fab , and firewall to the host is working fab as well
[14:45] <ikevin> with this 2 rules it's the case (if default rule is DROP)
[14:45] <jamesp_> so why is 80 allowed?
[14:45] <jamesp_> if the rule is 443
[14:46] <jamesp_> oh wait, its stopped working now
[14:46] <jamesp_> lol
[14:46] <ikevin> :)
[14:46] <ikevin> be sure that the default rule is on DROP (or REJECT)
[14:50] <theos> hi all
[14:50] <agd> hello theos
[14:51] <theos> what is snapd? and why did is start on its own and started using all of my bandwidth?
[14:51] <k1l> theos: snapd is the background service for the snappy packages.
[14:51] <theos> k1l why did it start on its own?
[14:52] <agd> for the sake of a greater Good
[14:53] <k1l> theos: why not? it looks for updates for installed packages. like the update notifier does for apt packages
[14:54] <theos> k1l oh? thats it? there havent been any popups from the update-manager after i installed 16.04. i have to manually start it to check for available updates
[14:55] <theos> i was thinking of removing the program or renaming it
[14:55] <k1l> theos: the update notifier will look for updates and if its not marked as critical it will wait and isntall them once a week or so (i dont know the time frame now)
[14:56] <k1l> theos: i still dont get what your issue with snapd is
[14:56] <theos> k1l my issue is that it was downloading data without my permission
[14:56] <meekara> hello all I've an issue with alsa loopback device
[14:56] <OerHeks> You can easily disable the service, i would not do that,  sudo systemctl disable snapd.refresh.service
[14:56] <meekara> does anyone who have experience with alsa ?
[14:57] <ikevin> snaps are crap :(
[14:57] <k1l> theos: it was updating the installed snaps
[14:57] <theos> OerHeks why would you not do that?
[14:57] <k1l> theos: see "snap list" to list the installed snaps
[14:57] <theos> k1l i see. what are "snaps"
[14:58] <k1l> theos: snaps are a new package format for linux distributions. its a different approach than .deb packages.
[14:58] <OerHeks> theos, your concern is networkactivity without permission, that updating should not use that much bandwidth
[14:58] <k1l> theos: and i doubt it was using that much bandwith
[14:58] <agd> snaps are crap, ikevin is drab
[14:59] <theos> k1l i checked with nethogs. snapd was using almost all of it for a very long time. then i had to kill it
[14:59] <theos> i dont have much bandwidth though but still
[14:59] <k1l> i guess it loaded the 79MB update for the snap service.
[15:00] <k1l> if you dont want it, remove it.
[15:00] <agd> 79MB? that's more money ikevin makes in a year!
[15:01] <k1l> agd: ikevin please stop that in here
[15:01] <theos> ok thanks everyone. i disabled it
[15:01] <agd> k1l, me and ikevin have a long running joke amongst eachother
[15:01] <agd> nothing serious
[15:03] <jamesp_> ikevin, would destination ip by the internal nat ip or the external public ip
[15:03] <jamesp_> on the forward rule
[15:04] <ikevin> jamesp_, it's an outgoing connection, so destination ip is the ip of your http(s) server
[15:05] <jamesp_> from which perspective though
[15:05] <jamesp_> public or internal
[15:06] <ikevin> public
[15:14] <theos> so what would happen if snapd is disabled? i can still install and update apps manually?
[15:14] <OerHeks> theos, the snaps lists will be outdated, i guess you run into issues
[15:15] <theos> OerHeks what kind of issues?
[15:15] <ChadTaljaardt> Does anyone know if "cantenna's" work?
[15:15] <k1l> theos: no, no snap apps.
[15:16] <OerHeks> theos, like not finding packages at all, or other errors.
[15:16] <OerHeks> ChadTaljaardt, extended antenna? sure they work.
[15:16] <theos> OerHeks but the update-manager can still find updates? and i can use apt/apt-install to find and install new packages?
[15:17] <OerHeks> theos, if you disable snapd.refresh.service, tell us what happens? never tried such ation
[15:17] <ChadTaljaardt> i have a cantenna im trying to get working for my uncle, he lives on a campsite and is far away from the router so he needs a long range internet. He bought a cantenna and he coudnt get it working so he gave it to me, but i have no idea how to get it working
[15:18] <k1l> theos: snap and apt/deb are 2 different things
[15:18] <theos> OerHeks ok.
[15:19] <theos> k1l yes thats what i came here to understand. "what in the world is a snap"
[15:19] <OerHeks> ChadTaljaardt, just 1 cantenna on your machine, does not make it work, the accesspoint needs to have the same device to bridge the long distance too
[15:19] <k1l> theos: i explained to you already
[15:19] <ChadTaljaardt> OerHeks so he needs a cantenna at the office and a cantenna at his house, and then point them together?
[15:20] <OerHeks> ChadTaljaardt, yes.
[15:20] <ilyaigpetrov> Hi guys. How many of you still use Chromium/Chrome older than current version 55?
[15:20] <OerHeks> https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy
[15:20] <k1l> theos: if you need more extensive information look at http://snapcraft.io/ or #snappy
[15:20] <k1l> ilyaigpetrov: no one, since ubuntu doesnt ship that old chromium anymore
[15:20] <theos> ok thanks
[15:20] <agd> is NSA allowed to contaminate ubuntu?
[15:21] <k1l> agd: no
[15:21] <agd> the question is not whether ubuntu is contaminated by the NSA, but rather if NSA has the allowance to do so
[15:21] <_arktos75_> its not like them to ask for permission ....
[15:21] <agd> k1l: if ubuntu is based in the USA, surely it is allowed
[15:21] <agd> and from what has been shown: if NSA is allowed, it will do it
[15:21] <k1l> agd: so why are you asking such trolling questions? please stop that in here
[15:21] <agd> im not trolling, k1l
[15:21] <ilyaigpetrov> k1l: yep, except Trusty users, but I guess it's only used by old servers now
[15:21] <agd> im merely telling everybody here that your system has NSA in it
[15:21] <k1l> agd: this is the technical support channel. keep it clear for technical support
[15:21] <agd> ok
[15:22] <k1l> agd: last warning not to misuse this channel
[15:22] <k1l> ilyaigpetrov: hmm
[15:23] <michal__> Hello, i just installed ubuntu 16.10 and ubuntu-software dosnt work... it doesnt open. Can someone help me ?
[15:23] <ilyaigpetrov> k1l: Trusty is LTS
[15:23] <k1l> ilyaigpetrov: you are right. it was just updated for xenial and yakkety
[15:23] <agd> michal__, why have you installed 16.10?
[15:23] <agd> michal__, it'll be finished in a few months
[15:23] <agd> michal__: use your head and get 16.04
[15:23] <k1l> agd: stop it
[15:23] <k1l> michal__: dont mind the troll
[15:23] <OerHeks> agd, not helpfull
[15:24] <michal__> im new i said on the website its good..
[15:24] <michal__> it *
[15:24] <michal__> "The latest version of the Ubuntu operating system for desktop PCs and laptops, Ubuntu 16.10 comes with nine months of security and maintenance updates."
[15:24] <k1l> michal__: 16.10 is fine. what is the exact issue?
[15:24] <michal__> Its in beta ?
[15:25] <k1l> no its not. the user was trolling you
[15:25] <michal__> So o click on the icon and nothing happens
[15:25] <michal__> the old one works...
[15:25] <OerHeks> michal__, if you run updates, do you get an error?
[15:25] <michal__> i installed it..
[15:25] <michal__> nope, its all up to date
[15:26] <k1l> michal__: can you run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal?
[15:26] <k1l> michal__: is unity the desktop? (its the standard one for ubuntu)
[15:27] <michal__> so, 0 to install 0 to update
[15:27] <michal__> im using defoult one 7 i think
[15:28] <k1l> can you open a terminal and try to start "ubuntu-software" from there?
[15:28] <michal__> i installed old software center from ubuntu 14.04 i think, and its working
[15:29] <michal__> yea sure
[15:29] <OerHeks> michal__, what happens when you run from terminal: gnome-software
[15:29] <jamesp_> hey ikevin , that Forwarding works fab
[15:29] <jamesp_> but now for some reason, all the nat servers cant get outgoing internet
[15:29] <michal__> ubuntu-software do nothing no error, dosent even exit command
[15:29] <michal__> just stay open forever
[15:29] <ikevin> jamesp_, you need to allow them in the forward table
[15:29] <michal__> gnome-software the same
[15:30] <jamesp_> righto , let me try
[15:30] <michal__> no errors :(
[15:31] <jamesp_> yay its only bloody working .. fab!!
[15:31] <jamesp_> ikevin, thanks so much for your help today
[15:31] <k1l> michal__: hmm
[15:31] <ikevin> jamesp_, your welcome
[15:31] <michal__> http://imgur.com/a/Wp2yY - i took screen shot
[15:32] <OerHeks> k1l, should he reinstall ubuntu-software or run dpkg --configure -a ?
[15:33] <k1l> OerHeks: worth a try. also i dont know why that is broken on a new install already.
[15:34] <OerHeks> me too, maybe updates have passed that require reboot, unlikely as 16.10 gives a line that reboot is needed3
[15:34] <michal__> i had to install "synaptic" from the beginning and the old software center let me install google chrome
[15:34] <k1l> ilyaigpetrov: i looked into launchpad and saw, that its 53 chromium build through the udpates and security repos. so maybe file a bug report to get the 55 build shipped to 14.04 too
[15:34] <michal__> it wasnt working from the beginning..
[15:36] <ilyaigpetrov> k1l: I think if somebody still uses Trusty on Desktop then its their problem not mine
[15:38] <michal__> sudo ubuntu-software also do nothing :(:(
[15:39] <michal__> should i try to reinstall it ?
[15:39] <OerHeks> michal__, run dpkg --configure -a # to reinstall the whole desktop and see what happens
[15:39] <michal__> like this "dpkg --configure -a #" ?
[15:39] <michal__> with # ?
[15:39] <OerHeks> without #
[15:39] <michal__> okey
[15:40] <michal__> okey done
[15:40] <Zeranoe> Is it possible to somewhat "share" files between a local and remote machine? I'd like to use a local editor to edit a remote file, and would like to avoid SSHing in to use Vim.
[15:40] <michal__> i took 1sec. no error
[15:40] <michal__> it *
[15:40] <michal__> should i reboot or something ?
[15:41] <k1l> Zeranoe: you can use scp to cp it to your machine
[15:41] <OerHeks> michal__, no, just click software center icon again.
[15:41] <michal__> loading....
[15:41] <michal__> ok, so icons appared on the task bar and then vanished .. :(
[15:41] <michal__> icon *
[15:41] <k1l> Zeranoe: or you open the window of the remote program with ssh -X on your local machine.
[15:42] <Zeranoe> On Windows it's as easy as browsing to the remote machine with \\machine :(
[15:42] <OerHeks> michal__, strange.. you might want to try a reboot, but i doubt it makes a difference.
[15:42] <michal__> :(
[15:43] <k1l> Zeranoe: well, its as easy on ubuntu with nautilus but you didnt tell you have a samba share or nfs share running there
[15:43] <michal__> i will try to reinstall with "sudo apt-get remove --purge software-center" is it ok ?
[15:43] <gile_> Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location. How would you like to proceed? install different location, continue without bootloader or cancel installation
[15:45] <k1l> Zeranoe: if there is a ssh server  running there is sftp support. so you can even use that in nautilius to connect to it
[15:48] <adalbert> Yo, is it safe to remove *.deb in the /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory ? It safe's me 500MB
[15:49] <gile_> monkeydust
[15:49] <k1l> adalbert: i would let apt autoclean and apt autoremove take care of that.
[15:49] <adalbert> ok thnx
[15:50] <adalbert> man apt
[15:51] <gile_> I cannot install bootloader. What should I do?
[15:52] <timyp> gile what is your install media?
[15:53] <gile_> timyp: I am using a USB Lubuntu
[15:53] <gile_> lubuntu 16.10
[15:55] <gile_> I try install cannot lubuntu 16.10 using USB bcoz bootlaoder
[15:56] <ioria> gile_, did you select 'update while installing' and are you connected to internet when you install ?
[15:56] <gile_> ioria: yes I do
[15:56] <gile_> ioria: is it reason why I cannot install
[15:57] <ioria> gile_,  you cannot finish the installation because of grub or you installation does not start at all ?
[15:58] <ioria> +r
[15:58] <gile_> ioria: stuck at grub
[15:59] <gile_> ioria: it speak, an error occurred and not possible to install bootloader at the specified location
[16:00] <ioria> gile_,   can you select 'try ubuntu' instead of 'install' ?
[16:00] <gile_> i can
[16:00] <ioria> gile_,   do it and be sure to be connected to internet
[16:00] <gile_> i internet unstable it is
[16:01] <gile_> lubuntu page is down now if you try also
[16:01] <ioria> gile_,   what is 'lubuntu page ' ?
[16:02] <gile_> ioria: it i cannot open because drupal it show
[16:02] <gile_> i mean error
[16:02] <OerHeks> indeed, http://lubuntu.net/
[16:03] <ioria> gile_,   ok, but you don't need that
[16:03] <OerHeks> but you don't need that page, give ioria details about your system, what is on your 1st hdd?
[16:03] <gile_> ioria: so what problem it is my install
[16:03] <ioria> gile_,   if you don't boot the live we'll never know
[16:04] <ioria> gile_,   there is a bug for grub installation on lubuntu 16.10 btw
[16:05] <OerHeks> ouch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1639324
[16:06] <ioria> OerHeks, great
[16:08] <ioria> gile_,   basically , you need to be connected and select 'updates' , so i asked you to choose 'try ubuntu' from the main menu ,  so we can gather infos , be sure you are connected and then try to install again
[16:08] <who> help me, I wanna know how to use exploit with fileformat txt ?
[16:08] <ioria> brb
[16:08] <Pici> who: That sort of discussion is offtopic for this and any other Ubuntu channels.
[16:08] <OerHeks> who, wrong channel for exploits, try the kali channels
[16:10] <who> ok.. Sorry
[16:10] <who> thank you
[16:12] <xRob_> Yo guys
[16:12] <xRob_> My razer naga doesn't work on Ubuntu
[16:13] <xRob_> by "doesn't work", it doesn't even light up when I plug it into a usb port
[16:14] <k1l> xRob_: the mouse works on another usb port and another OS?
[16:14] <xRob_> k1l: yessir
[16:14] <xRob_> it works on the same usb port, but on Windows
[16:14] <alkis> brianhunter: nice. ill keep an eye out for that flag when i start installing on my laptop
[16:15] <mitchell> hey all i am trying to install ubuntu using a live usb and i am reusing an old hard drive.  i get a kernel offset diabled unable to mount root fs on unknown block (2,0)
[16:15] <mitchell> what can i do?
[16:15] <k1l> xRob_: https://sqroot.eu/2014/getting-razer-naga-to-play-well-with-ubuntu looks like it needs some work to be done to get that mouse working
[16:16] <k1l> xRob_: or look at this post, that includes a PPA and is a bit newer: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/06/configure-razer-mice-in-linux-with.html
[16:16] <xRob_> k1l: figures :'( Razer doesn't have any linux drivers. I'll follow the second link you sent me, and we'll see if it works.
[16:18] <mitchell> halp!
[16:19] <ilyaigpetrov> !police
[16:25] <k1l> mitchell: can you use gparted to reformat the drive?
[16:35] <leru> hi, i have an problem on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS. i get this error message "pam_systemd(su:session): Failed to create session: No such file or directory". but it doesn't say which directory it is.
[16:35] <xenophiaN> hi
[16:36] <xenophiaN> anyone on this IRC
[16:36] <xenophiaN> ?
[16:36] <noimnotninevolt> nope.
[16:41] <k1l> leru: what are you doing to get that error?
[16:42] <leru> k1l, i'm running this(http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Server_startup_script) script. so i guess it's just the "su"
[16:44] <leru> k1l, everything else seems to be alright: http://pastebin.com/raw/CyjJiatZ
[16:46] <arunpyasi> mahesh, oe fucche
[16:47] <mahesh> yes my sir arun
[16:49] <k1l> leru: better use the ubuntu one http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Ubuntu_startup_script
[16:50] <leru> k1l, oh, okay. i'll try this one. thank you very much!!!
[16:56] <mozammel> hi, anybody can guide me to access .mdb data base how I can access from Libreoffice 5.2, I'm using ubuntu 16.10,
[16:56] <IhrFussel> If you change user group settings you have to restart ALL scripts for them to apply the new permission settings?
[16:58] <mitchell> kll thanks
[16:59] <OerHeks> mozammel, maybe mdb tools can do that http://askubuntu.com/questions/284359/can-microsoft-access-files-be-edit-in-ubuntu
[16:59] <OerHeks> never tried myself though
[17:04] <mozammel> OerHeks: that one is not useful, I actually want to access .mdb from Libreoffice.
[17:05] <Southern_Gentlem> mozammel, what happens if you do (make sure to play on a copy
[17:05] <donofrio> thought you could do that perhaps ask #libreoffice
[17:09] <squeakytoy> Hey all. I need some generic advice here. For a folder, I have an Apache2 looking at it, but the folder is also FTP home directly, meaning, if you FTP up a file, it lands there. Apache uses the user "www-data", the ftp-server the user "ftpuser". When I upload a file, the file rights becomes only rw for the owner (ftpuser), meaning Apache cannot serve the file. How do you generally fix stuff like this?
[17:11] <squeakytoy> i mean, is it stupid to have two users, one for apache, one for the fto-server to start with?
[17:12] <Guest80676> What's the correct way to enable the nvidia card in an Optimus laptop? (16.04.2) I don't need to switch it, I can live with the card running the whole time, ...
[17:12] <bSchool> squekytoy in my opinion, change the non-www file home to not within www but above it, then add him to the same group as the ftp user so that he has access
[17:12] <Guest80676> What's the correct way to enable the nvidia card in an Optimus laptop? (16.04.2) I don't need to switch it, I can live with the card running the whole time, ...
[17:13] <Southern_Gentlem> Guest80676, once every 10 minutes is enough
[17:13] <Guest80676> Southern_Gentlem, I'm just fighting with nick changing :(
[17:13] <Southern_Gentlem> Guest80676, google optimus ubuntu
[17:13] <deadbit> What is the best method of having Ubuntu run in a triple boot environment? I literally need it to boot into ubuntu.
[17:14] <squeakytoy> bSchool, but the files that are upload only have "owner" rights, not sure how I can manipulate this even tho they are in the same group?
[17:20] <hhn090> hello i've a problem, i installed ubuntu 16.04 and stuck at boot screen with message: "/dev/sda6: clean, 121539/6234222 files, 1053787/24914550 blocks
[17:20] <hhn090> "
[17:29] <avieks> i have a cifs share in fstab but it doesn't get automounted at boot. why?
[17:29] <avieks> i need to sudo it afterwards
[17:30] <yacc> avieks, paste the line from fstab?
[17:33] <avieks> /avieks/abc /media/abc_share cifs dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777,guest,iocharset=utf8,noperm,rw,_netdev,uid=1000,forceuid,gid=1000,forcegid,username=avieks 0 0
[17:34] <tatertots> eww
[17:34] <yacc> avieks, so when you manually mount it, does it ask for a password?
[17:34] <ghost_> ?
[17:34] <avieks> yes, root pass
[17:34] <OerHeks> Try the IP instead of the DNS name?
[17:35] <OerHeks> oh, credentials, user and password should be in that line or in an file
[17:36] <ghost_> how can i get bluesnarfer on back box
[17:36] <ghost_> or can i even get it on back box
[17:36] <DonalD_> all my computers have the same DNS name has its assigned IP adress
[17:36] <OerHeks> ghost_, we don't support backbocks and derrivates
[17:36] <OerHeks> !backbox
[17:37] <avieks> thanks for the tips, will try
[17:38] <DonalD_> OerHeks: so i need to install ubuntu and add blackbox repo so i still can get help on this channel?
[17:39] <OerHeks> DonalD_, no, we have no control over packages and such.
[17:39] <OerHeks> they have their dedicated channel for help
[17:41] <Guest55016> is there any good channel for python programmers?
[17:41] <Pici> Guest55016: oddly enough, #python
[17:41] <Guest55016> lol, thanks bro
[17:42] <Pici> Guest55016: you'll need to be registered and identified to speak there though,  see /msg nickserv help register   (more registration help available in #freenode)
[17:42] <DonalD_> yes odly its not a ## channel
[17:49] <squeakytoy> if a file has rw for a specific owner, can i get another user have read access of that file.. aotumatically?
[17:50] <squeakytoy> somehow
[17:50] <nacc> squeakytoy: huh? using normal unix permissions, a file cannot have rw for a specific owner, just whoever the owner currently is.
[17:50] <OerHeks> squeakytoy, sure, make a group with those permissions, and add the current and 'another' user member of that group
[17:51] <nacc> squeakytoy: but i think you are referring to 'groups', by what you said
[17:51] <squeakytoy> My FTP server uploads a file with owner X, but Apache is owner Y, needs to read it, hm
[17:51] <ikonia> sort the permissions out then
[17:52] <squeakytoy> in what way?
[17:52] <ikonia> squeakytoy: look at groups or masks
[17:52] <OerHeks> Oh, i see i am wrong, one user r/w and apache only read?
[17:52] <squeakytoy> OerHeks, if i inspect the file, group has ni rights, doesn't the file need to have rw on group level as well?
[17:53] <tgm4883> acl's should also work
[17:53] <squeakytoy> the file gets "-rw-------", so I am not sure groups would work here?
[17:53] <ikonia> acls' don't work out well with ftp depending on the server
[17:54] <tgm4883> ikonia: can't you force acl's on everything in a directory? Doesn't sound like FTP needs to care about it since we're worried about Apache having access
[17:55] <ikonia> tgm4883: it's to do with how some of the ftp servers for privileged seperaration or assume "user" roles
[17:55] <tgm4883> ah
[18:06] <Retr0id> I've just completed a minimal install, and I'd like to go back and add some packages I need to make networking work. Can I do this from the bootable installer? how?
[18:06] <OerHeks> Retr0id, mini iso has no live environment, i think you have to start all over
[18:07] <Retr0id> Hmm. I did select the "manually selelect packages" option during tasksel, but it didn't seem to do anything
[18:07] <OerHeks> What desktop did you choose?
[18:07] <koulis1984> hello all :)
[18:08] <Retr0id> Me? "None of the above"
[18:09] <OerHeks> Retr0id, oke, then start the install again and choose a desktop, else use the server iso for manually setting networking?
[18:09] <FatherWh0> I'm about to install Lubuntu on a thumb drive for the second time. I hade to use the thumb for something else temp. This time I'd like to save a snapshot (image, whatever) to an external of my final install. What's the best way to do this and do I need to chose LVM?
[18:11] <Retr0id> > "You can also select "Manual package selection" which will take you to aptitude. "
[18:11] <Retr0id> How do I make this option work?
[18:11] <OerHeks> Retr0id, i think you need to choose a desktop first?
[18:12] <Retr0id> No
[18:12] <Retr0id> I've done this before
[18:14] <OerHeks> Retr0id, this page gives a hint > sudo apt-get install gdm/lightdm/lxdm network-manager   >> https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-a-minimal-ubuntu-on-old-laptop/
[18:14] <OerHeks> so it can be done, if you have installed a desktop i guess
[18:14] <Retr0id> Yeah, and that command requires network
[18:14] <Retr0id> *facepalm*
[18:16] <Retr0id> Hm, perhaps I am running into this bug?
[18:16] <OerHeks> Retr0id, no, packages should be available, if you keep the cd into the drive
[18:17] <Retr0id> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1578642
[18:17] <akik> Retr0id: the command is tasksel if you have that
[18:17] <Retr0id> I'm on 16.10 though. Anyone know if that bug still applies?
[18:18] <Retr0id> Can I run tasksel/apt from the installation media?
[18:18] <Retr0id> I'm going to try chrooting in from the installer
[18:22] <cuore_>  /qui
[18:26] <Bl4ckK4ne> hello
[18:28] <Retr0id> I can confirm that chrooting in from the install media works. I thought ubuntu was supposed to be simple...
[18:30] <BluesKaj> Retr0id, it is, if you have a bios , uefi not so much , unless you use legacy mode and turn off the security and fast modes
[18:32] <Retr0id> What does that have to do with things? I have a BIOS though.
[18:36] <gkarr> woot
[18:39] <yacc> BluesKaj, well, that's only because UEFI tries to be mini-OS (arguably with more OS functionality built into it than MS-DOS had), hence all UEFI implementations are not really such, the "no serious bugs" UEFI implemention still lives on as vaporware.
[18:40] <yacc> BluesKaj, legacy BIOS is not much better, but it's buggyness and crazy behaviors we have studied for 2+ decades, so it works usually slightly nicer.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> yacc, I couldn't be bothered with UEFI/BIOS and GPT when I received my laptop, it was msdos table and legacy for me, after wiping W8.1 off the map
[18:43] <Retr0id> well, now my system is boot looping. That's enough ubuntu for the day...
[18:44] <BluesKaj> Retr0id, you already posted that
[18:45] <Retr0id> Uh. no I didn't.
[18:46] <jnewt> i want to create a "shared" ntfs partition on my disk.  I have a bunch of unallocated space, but I already have 4 partitions and can't figure out how to create a logical partition in the unallocated space.  tried gparted from live disk, but got the same error as from non-live and windows
[18:47] <jnewt> my partitions are windows (small 100MB boot thing),  windows (120GB), ubuntu (/), ubuntu (/home)
[18:48] <akik> jnewt: you would need to create an extended partition first
[18:48] <configuringmouse> Hello. I'm trying to remap my mouse thumb button. I've tried xte, xbindkeys, imwheel, and a few more. They all bind the mouse thumb to a key correctly, but there is an issue: when I am holding another mouse button (ie left click) and then I press the thumb button, then the thumb button will do nothing.
[18:48] <jnewt> akik: how do i do that?
[18:48] <configuringmouse>  tested it with xev, having thumb_1 remapped to SPACE key, and while pressing thumb in fact printed space, pressing thumb while holding left click printed button 8 (default mouse thumb button), so  S O M E H O W  the sole act of holding a mouse button DENIES EVERY REMAP TOOL AVAILABLE FOR LINUX.
[18:49] <configuringmouse> 've googled for hours and there are some people who had my same issue, but no one provided an answer!!!!! i'm going crazy. I've been 4 hours on this. I just want my mouse thumb to behave as a keyboard key, why is it so complicated? Man, not even the basics are covered in this operating system!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP
[18:49] <akik> jnewt: one solution could be moving the /home data to the / partition and then converting the /home partition to an extended partition
[18:49] <jnewt> so i can't create an extended partition in addition to the 4 primary partitions I have?
[18:49] <akik> jnewt: nope
[18:50] <Bombo> what is wrong if i do '
[18:50] <jnewt> akik: ok.  I'll have to figure out how to merge /home and / then.
[18:50] <Bombo> what is wrong if i do 'apt-get install lxde' and it does not install lxde-common and openbox?
[18:50] <deus402> I have my ip set statically, and somehow i just lost all dns resolution. here are my diagnostics so far: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23870553/
[18:52] <deus402> it was working fine and then it just stopped... everything seems configured right, not quite sure what i'm missing.
[18:52] <jnewt> well, all of the instructions seem to be for moving /home to separate partition, not the other way around.
[18:53] <Retr0id> deus402, are you sure your traffic isn't being filtered somehow?
[18:53] <akik> jnewt: you just need to move the /home data to / if it has the space for it
[18:53] <Retr0id> Maybe your ISP wants to force you to use their DNS, or something
[18:53] <jnewt> akik: I have plenty of room everywhere.
[18:53] <akik> jnewt: you will have a mount line in /etc/fstab for /home if it's a separated partition
[18:54] <deus402> Retr0id: all other devices on the network are still working fine.
[18:54] <jnewt> right, i do
[18:54] <deus402> hrmm, i'll try dig with my isp's dns
[18:55] <Retr0id> deus402, try setting resolv.conf to "nameserver 8.8.8.8" ?
[18:55] <Retr0id> (as a temporary test)
[18:55] <jnewt> so what, i create a folder on / (ie temp_home), then copy everything from /home/ to /temp/home/ and then remove the fstab line, reboot and then create a new /home and copy everything back?
[18:56] <akik> jnewt: sounds like a plan, you just need to "mv /temp_home /home" after the fstab mangling
[18:56] <Retr0id> You could unmount /home, and remount the partition somewhere else
[18:56] <akik> jnewt: /home will be an empty directory then
[18:57] <Retr0id> then copy the files
[18:57] <deus402> Retr0id: dig also fails with my isp's nameserver. also, shouldn't dig @8.8.8.8 work even if resolv.conf was totally boned?
[18:57] <Retr0id> It should
[18:57] <akik> jnewt: i meant "mv /temp_home/* /home"
[18:57] <akik> Retr0id: you can't unmount /home if it's in use, which it normally is
[18:58] <Retr0id> not if you log in as root, surely?
[18:58] <Retr0id> and you need to be root anyway
[18:58] <lucidguy> Anyone see an issue with enabling immediate writes to bash_history this way?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/67283/is-it-possible-to-make-writing-to-bash-history-immediate
[18:58] <Retr0id> deus402, try this: nc -uvvv 8.8.8.8 53
[18:59] <Retr0id> if you hit enter a few times, you should see "Connection to 8.8.8.8 53 port [udp/domain] succeeded!"
[18:59] <prakhar489> hi everyone,please respond if anyone sees my message
[19:00] <Retr0id> prakhar489, yup
[19:01] <deus402> Retr0id: Connection to 8.8.8.8 53 port [udp/domain] succeeded!
[19:01] <prakhar489> thanks@Retr0id, i tried irc irccloud but it didn't work out
[19:03] <jnewt> hrm.  can't log in (other than guest now)
[19:05] <akik> jnewt: if you're unable to login, you can fix the situation through a live session
[19:05] <akik> jnewt: i mean a live session through a boot disk/dvd
[19:06] <Retr0id> unless you used encryption ^
[19:06] <jnewt> yeah, live disk is booting.  i'm going to mount the disk and see what is up.  /home now says permission denied (maybe just because of guest)
[19:07] <deus402> retroid: tracepath -p 53 8.8.8.8 https://paste.ubuntu.com/23870625/
[19:09] <SamDCB> Howdy everyone.
[19:09] <SamDCB> Just getting into using irssi so I'm kinda a noob.
[19:10] <Retr0id> deus402, at this point, I have no idea
[19:10] <deus402> rebooting the router for fun
[19:12] <lucas-arg> hows nvidia optimus support going in linux/ubuntu?
[19:13] <Retr0id> deus402, one thing to try is to run this in one window: nc -lu 53
[19:13] <Retr0id> and this in another: dig @127.0.0.1 example.com
[19:13] <jnewt> akik, everything looks ok, /home has my user and the lost found, fstab only has the one line for /
[19:13] <Retr0id> if it works, you should see some data appear at the first window
[19:14] <tengelic> murrmurr
[19:14] <deus402> k
[19:16] <Bashing-om> Retr0id: Overall .. optimus support is good . A lot depends on the card .. and what driver is instaled .. and then the grey natter between the ears :)
[19:17] <jnewt> do i need to do something else to tell login where to find my /home folder?
[19:18] <akik> jnewt: no it's just /home/username
[19:19] <akik> jnewt: you can actually remove the /home/lost+found directory if you still have it there
[19:20] <tengelic> how to speed up the bootup?
[19:21] <deus402> m.2 drive.
[19:22] <jnewt> akik: var/log/auth.log has some errors about /lib/security/pam_kwallet5.so cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[19:22] <deus402> retroid: all that came up on the nc -lu 53 terminal was: l googlecom)l googlecom)l googlecom)
[19:22] <akik> jnewt: can you login to the system now ok?
[19:22] <jnewt> no
[19:22] <jnewt> i'm looking at it with live disk again
[19:22] <Bashing-om> tengelic: Remind us once more what release ( upstart/systemd ?) that you are running .
[19:22] <smalone> Has anyone gotten a celluar modem to work in Ubuntu?
[19:23] <tengelic> Bashing-om: 16.04. systemd. Once more?:-D
[19:23] <configuringMOUSE> Hello. I'm trying to remap my mouse thumb button. I've tried xte, xbindkeys, imwheel, and a few more. They all bind the mouse thumb to a key correctly, but there is an issue: when I am holding another mouse button (ie left click) and then I press the thumb button, then the thumb button will do nothing.
[19:23] <akik> jnewt: did you change the permissions on your home dir when moving it?
[19:24] <configuringMOUSE>  tested it with xev, having thumb_1 remapped to SPACE key, and while pressing thumb in fact printed space, pressing thumb while holding left click printed button 8 (default mouse thumb button), so  S O M E H O W  the sole act of holding a mouse button DENIES EVERY REMAP TOOL AVAILABLE FOR LINUX.
[19:24] <configuringMOUSE> I've googled for hours and there are some people who had my same issue, but no one provided an answer!!!!! i'm going crazy. I've been 4 hours on this. I just want my mouse thumb to behave as a keyboard key, why is it so complicated?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> tengelic: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html to know all about the booting times .
[19:25] <jnewt> akik: not on purpose.  /home is 755 root root, /home/jnewt is the same
[19:25] <OerHeks> tengelic, systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg  # this gives a bootchart, post it @ imgur and let us see
[19:26] <akik> jnewt: you should change the permissions on /home/jnewt to be actually owned by jnewt
[19:26] <deus402> Retr0id: router firewall decided to shit the bed, was blocking all outbound ports
[19:26] <akik> jnewt: the whole directory
[19:27] <jnewt> akik: can i do that from a live disk?
[19:27] <akik> jnewt: sure, you can use numeric ids
[19:28] <deus402> but for some reason only for the linux box... made no sense. even router reboot didn't fix it, but turning the firewall off and back on did.
[19:28] <tengelic> OerHeks: https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/pctyna.svg
[19:29] <cuddle> how well does world of warcraft work in ubuntu
[19:30] <sud_> new on lubuntu here
[19:30] <deus402> Retr0id, thanks for the help.
[19:31] <star_prone> hi
[19:34] <star_prone> I have a virtualbox with ubuntu server 14.04 in text mode. I have installed guest additions but I just can't figure it out how to change the resolution
[19:34] <star_prone> does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:35] <lucas-arg> star_prone, if im no mistaken you have to mount the iso and install drvier in virtual machine
[19:35] <lucas-arg> its been a while since ive used a virtual machine so... i might be wrong
[19:36] <lucas-arg> star_prone, you can see that in some menu of vm
[19:36] <star_prone> I already did that
[19:37] <lucas-arg> star_prone, are you sure? did a window installer appear while you did that?
[19:37] <lucas-arg> star_prone, did you actually installed the guest adition software??
[19:38] <lucas-arg> star_prone, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84boOmiPW8
[19:41] <pc> hola
[19:43] <pavlos> star_prone, you may have to modify /etc/default/grub (see GRUB_GFXMODE) to define the resolution. I have not been successful with ubuntu server to change resolution, on desktop installs it works fine.
[19:48] <pavlos> star_prone, see http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17027/how-to-set-the-resolution-in-text-consoles-troubleshoot-when-any-vga-fail
[19:51] <odfhw5bv9s> Hi all. Why are packages in repos as old as mammoth shit?
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !latest | odfhw5bv9s
[19:51] <BluesKaj> odfhw5bv9s, because your OS is the same age
[19:52] <odfhw5bv9s> ubottu, BluesKaj web browser must be always of latest version
[19:52] <odfhw5bv9s> Bashing-om, BluesKaj web browser must be always of latest version
[19:53] <odfhw5bv9s> but I still see firefox 50.1
[19:53] <Bashing-om> odfhw5bv9s: Now if ya want the latest and greatest, one dual boots with the 'development' version . And does the help in testing the soon to be released next version .
[19:53] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: whats the latest version?
[19:53] <genii> Install then the mozilla daily or such PPA
[19:53] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: and when was it released?
[19:54] <odfhw5bv9s> Bashing-om, Pici though several days since release of 51 have passed
[19:56] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: the ubuntu mozilla team has stuff they need to do to get the release ready for Ubuntu.
[19:57] <odfhw5bv9s> Pici: do you mean this addon installed into for Firefox for tracking?
[19:57] <odfhw5bv9s> *into Firefox
[19:57] <tengelic> odfhw5bv9s: what?
[19:57] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: I don't know what that is, but software packaging isn't a point and click thing.  There are patches that need to get applied and tested and whatnot before any software can appear in the Ubuntu repos.
[19:59] <PianoSkulls> hey is there a script out there that clears session cache before logging off?
[19:59] <odfhw5bv9s> Pici: firefox already has a release for any linux on their website. Why don't we have package, since there is a release and this is well tested by mozilla beta testers
[19:59] <PianoSkulls> Xubuntu keeps reopening my saved sessions when I turn on the computer
[19:59] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: Because we apply patches to make it fully compatable with Ubuntu
[19:59] <Pici> Thats how packaging works
[20:00] <tengelic> Pici: an addon
[20:00] <odfhw5bv9s> Pici: what kind of patches do you mean? Some kind of tracking code?
[20:00] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: No
[20:00] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: like, to set the Ubuntu home page, to specify what directory things get installed into, etc
[20:01] <PianoSkulls> guys I unchecked "save sessionfor future login" but xubuntu still saves them
[20:02] <odfhw5bv9s> Pici: are these patches to the source code? They sound more like patches for config files.
[20:02] <ppf> odfhw5bv9s: either
[20:02] <odfhw5bv9s> *to config files
[20:02] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: yes, those config files are part of the firefox source packages.
[20:03] <ikonia> there can be patches to the source code though too
[20:03] <ikonia> eg: compiler compatibility
[20:03] <odfhw5bv9s> Pici: I see no reason how applying these patches can delay a package for such large time.
[20:04] <ikonia> what is the delay ?
[20:04] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: why don't try to make compiler compatibility patches to upstream
[20:04] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: days
[20:05] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: because different distros use different compilers
[20:05] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: days is "ok"
[20:05] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: it has to go through testing too,
[20:05] <ikonia> it may also not be a high prioirty release.
[20:05] <ppf> it's also only 2 days old
[20:05] <ikonia> 2 days...thats nothing
[20:05] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: it is the reason to make code which can be compiled with all popular compilers.
[20:05] <ppf> yeah
[20:05] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: it doesn't work like that
[20:05] <odfhw5bv9s> days are clearly not ok
[20:06] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: clearly they are
[20:06] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: what do you NEED in this release
[20:06] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: I just downloaded the firefox 50.1 source from the Ubuntu repos here, and these are the patches that we apply currently: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23870887/
[20:06] <OerHeks> 51.0 / January 24, 2017; 2 days ago
[20:08] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/#firefox51
[20:09] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: do you still think thad days are OK? release of any software with fixed vulns means immediate disclosure.
[20:09] <tengelic> odfhw5bv9s: that's nothing
[20:09] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: just to clarify it's the 51 release your waiting for
[20:09] <odfhw5bv9s> The vulns are exploited in the wild!
[20:09] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: yes, if you look at them the severity is high, but the likely hood is actually low
[20:10] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: they should be treated seriously, but not panic
[20:10] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: yes. But you don't treat them seriously.
[20:10] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: I do, thats why I just said so
[20:10] <ppf> odfhw5bv9s: you have a funny understanding of how software deployment works
[20:11] <ikonia> I suspect this is not a real clearly but just a platform to complain
[20:11] <ikonia> a real complaint
[20:12] <ikonia> reading through that security list, the risks of them for a few days are not serious, while the impact is high
[20:12] <ikonia> no-one who is "quoting" that list as a reason to get upset, would not understand the principals of the distro specific packages
[20:12] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: if you don't have system giving updates for packages within short period of time since official release, you don't threat security seriously.
[20:12] <Pici> odfhw5bv9s: the last testing build that I see from the mozilla team was about 3 hours ago and it failed for most of the architectures, so there is more programming and testing needed.
[20:12] <odfhw5bv9s> *treat
[20:13] <Pici> sorry, it succeeded, I misread the tracker.  I assume they are testing now.
[20:13] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: packages are release as soon as they are ready
[20:13] <tengelic> odfhw5bv9s: gstreamer patched quickly.
[20:13] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone.  I have had terrible trouble with compatibility between my iMac5,1 and Linux distros.  Does anyone know of the compatibility between various versions of Ubuntu, and the iMac5,1 (dual booting, not in a VM)
[20:14] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: the problem is that the packages are not ready in time
[20:14] <ppf> odfhw5bv9s: they are
[20:14] <ikonia> (for you)
[20:14] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: ok, so what do you think complaining in this channel will do to resolve that ?
[20:15] <odfhw5bv9s> ikonia: it's your problem, not mozilla's that you use another compiler. It's your users problem that they use ubuntu instead of sid.
[20:15] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: it's not my problem
[20:16] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: what do you hope to achieve complaining into this channel ?
[20:16] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: if the release process is too slow for you, use a different distro
[20:16] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: it's your choice to find the distro that meets your requirements
[20:17] <odfhw5bv9s> nothing. Now I'm sure that this was done intentionally. I think that the better solution is to drop ubuntu and migrate to sid
[20:17] <Bravo> ciao
[20:17] <dax> sid as in debian unstable?
[20:17] <ikonia> odfhw5bv9s: perfect, do that
[20:17] <Bravo> !list
[20:17] <ppf> :D
[20:17] <dax> you, er, might want to read up on security policy for debian unst... oh ok
[20:17] <ikonia> I look forward to that conversation being repeated in every other distro channel
[20:17] <dax> mhm
[20:18] <ioria> odfhw5bv9s, it's just my h opinion, but more breaches fixed, more breaches found
[20:18] <SmtGge> i want to copy magic_dragon in IRC.ICQ 100000000 versions and kill them all
[20:19] <ikonia> SmtGge: not wure what that has to do with this channel
[20:21] <zuiss1> does ubuntu LTS have anything comparable to debian backports, so some packages can get installed on a LTS base?
[20:22] <zuiss1> *newer packages
[20:22] <dax> Depends on the package. Ubuntu has a backports repository but it's very rarely used relative to Debian's. Some package teams provide PPAs with updates, e.g. Kubuntu does that for KDE
[20:24] <zuiss1> debian is a good fit for me because i can use a stable base but some stuff like hexchat, pidgin, etc. i can get through backports. i want try to try ubuntu lts but don't want to go an actual 2 years without software updates for a few select packages
[20:25] <k1l> zuiss1: that is what PPAs are for
[20:25] <dax> though debian backports tends to be rather less... tending towards brokenness than PPAs
[20:25] <dax> i.e., i'd personally be a lot more comfortable with Debian Backports than a team PPA
[20:26] <dax> but your mileage may of course vary
[20:26] <k1l> well. i doubt the backports are that bleeding edge the user wants. because he doesnt like the stable release
[20:27] <ppf> !info gcc xenial
[20:27] <cotin_> trol
[20:27] <zuiss1> backports are tested by a distro maintainer instead of just being published by upstream  so there is a bit more quality control
[20:28] <zuiss1> i get the point though
[20:28] <Dreaman> k1l  how to install kernel 4.10 rc5
[20:28] <ikonia> you don't
[20:28] <ikonia> it's not released
[20:29] <k1l> zuiss1: there are a variety of PPAs. some are run by the same maintainer (team) that maintain the repo packages.
[20:29] <k1l> Dreaman: please stop asking me directly, when you already know the answer and just want to troll me.
[20:30] <zuiss1> so to find these PPAs i'd just check the upstream's site and see if they have one? or is there a list somewhere
[20:30] <Dreaman> i use alpha 17.04
[20:30] <Dreaman> :)
[20:30] <Dreaman> work in 16.10
[20:31] <ikonia> then disussion belongs in #ubuntu+1 channel Dreaman
[20:31] <Dreaman> but in 17.04 not
[20:31] <k1l> you can look at the launchpad page for the package you want. then at the bottom there is a green link to the PPAs that include other versions of that package
[20:31] <ikonia> 17.04 disscussion in #ubuntu+1 channel please Dreaman
[20:31] <Dreaman> ok
[20:31] <Dreaman> i ask in
[20:31] <star_prone> thank you
[20:33] <zuiss1> thanks k1l
[20:37] <Skaag> I have a problem with network manager, it keeps changing my wlan0 mac address
[20:37] <Skaag> how do I tell it to stop misbehaving like this?
[20:37] <ikonia> network manager will not change your mac address
[20:37] <ikonia> it's more likley you are trying to change it and it's reading the "real" mac address
[20:37] <Skaag> then I'm not sure why this is happening, it's so weird
[20:38] <Skaag> I don't want it to change
[20:38] <Skaag> I'm trying to connect this box to an access point which whitelists by MAC address
[20:38] <Skaag> so unless I have a fixed MAC I won't be able to connect
[20:38] <ppf> nm uses/resets the card's physical MAC
[20:39] <Skaag> I just ran ifconfig again, it changed again
[20:39] <ppf> that's static
[20:39] <cc-r> hi
[20:39] <ikonia> network manager will not change your mac
[20:39] <ikonia> it will use the card real mac only
[20:39] <k1l> Skaag: what ubuntu is that exactly? and what hardware?
[20:39] <Skaag> any ideas what's changing my mac address then?
[20:40] <cc-r> ?
[20:40] <ppf> Skaag: are you _sure_ your mac address is changing?
[20:40] <Skaag> 100% sure
[20:40] <ppf> can you paste two ifconfig outputs where the address is changed?
[20:40] <Skaag> maybe wpa_supplicant is doing it
[20:40] <Skaag> yes
 Skaag: what ubuntu is that exactly? and what hardware?
[20:41] <ppf> wpa_supplicant doesn't modify the mac address either
[20:42] <Skaag> it's an intel NUC with an intel wifi board on it, and I'm sorry but this appears to be a debian box, not my typical ubuntu setup... (my apologies, I just realized this now)
[20:43] <OerHeks> Skaag, how do you change you MAC to that number that is whitelisted?
[20:43] <OerHeks> Networkmanager is not doing it randomly
[20:43] <ikonia> network manager is not doing it properly
[20:43] <ikonia> I suggest taking it to the correct channel
[20:43] <Skaag> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0b3417c2e58f13492aaf3d46d2e6b225
[20:44] <ikonia> Skaag: we only support ubuntu here, sorry
[20:44] <Skaag> OerHeks: I don't want to change it at all, I just want nm to use the hardware mac, I didn't see any place in the nm gui to change the mac address (spoof)
[20:45] <Skaag> yah i'll take this to the debian channel, thanks guys, and sorry again - all of my new stuff is on ubuntu, this is an older system and I didn't realize it earlier
[20:45] <ioria> Skaag, see if you have macchanger  installed for any chances
[20:46] <Skaag> I thought macchanger lets you set a specific mac address, here it appears to be random every few minutes... but I will check
[20:46] <Skaag> (I did not install it)
[20:47] <ioria> Skaag, not sure but yoou can randomize it
[20:48] <Skaag> macchanger isn't installed
[20:51] <jnewt> trying to find and install libpng14, but threads on ubuntuforums.org for using an rpm seem to point to an unavailable page. anyone know where to get it?
[20:51] <Ben64> jnewt: you don't want to use rpm on ubuntu
[20:51] <AdamTheSlave> Ubuntu doesn't use RPM's, we use .deb files, and the best way to get them is using APT/software center
[20:52] <OerHeks> !find libpng
[20:52] <OerHeks> try libpng16 ?
[20:52] <ioria> Skaag, or maybe some script like this  http://pastebin.com/qatdtbVH     somewhere, really idk
[20:53] <jnewt> Ben64: was just going by the forum's recommendation.
[20:53] <Ben64> forums aren't always right
[20:53] <OerHeks> jnewt, probably an old post, keep up with version numbers
[20:54] <Skaag> looks like wpa_supplicant has this feature to randomize the mac address
[20:54] <Skaag> very weird
[20:54] <Skaag> I'm going to force it to stai
[20:54] <Skaag> I'm going to force it to static
[20:54] <OerHeks> Skaag, move it to debian please
[20:54] <Skaag> oops wrong window
[20:54] <ioria> Skaag, so you're not using nm ?
[20:55] <jnewt> OerHeks, Alreading installed libpng16-16 via apt.  still get shared libraries problem. need libpng14.so.14.  maybe i can symlink to new one?
[20:56] <k1l> jnewt: what gives you that error?
[20:56] <OerHeks> jnewt, what are you trying to install? i would question that package/script
[20:58] <jnewt> OerHeks: an older version of cadsoft eagle (pcb design software).  I'm migrating from an older debian system that i've been running in a vm, and they got bought out and switch to cloud software.
[20:58] <ppf> jnewt: get a newer version of that software then?
[20:59] <jnewt> i didn't mean cloud, i meant subscription.
[21:00] <Ben64> use a better software then? a quick apt search shows me fritzing, geda, gerbv, kicad, pcb
[21:03] <jnewt> Ben64: I have 10 years of work in eagle.  libraries, scripts, processes and experience.  i already have kicad installed, but would like to see if i can stretch eagle a bit longer if possible.  I don't need alternatives, I need to figure out how to get the libraries installed so i can try this.
[21:03] <Ben64> then use their new version
[21:04] <jnewt> Subscription, and it would update files to non-backward compatiblity with my other eagle installations
[21:04] <jnewt> I've thought of all of this already
[21:04] <nacc> jnewt: what package provided the library in your debian VM?
[21:04] <Ben64> a great philosopher once said "you can't always get what you want"
[21:06] <jnewt> nacc: i don't remember the process.  could i just copy the libpng14 file from /lib on the debian vm into /lib on my new system?
[21:06] <Ben64> just keep your old vm for working on your old software
[21:06] <jnewt> Ben64: you're not helping
[21:07] <Ben64> you're the one in the way
[21:07] <Ben64> i want old unsupported software on new ubuntu!
[21:09] <Americanu>  Hello there
[21:10] <Americanu> Anybody on ?
[21:10] <k1l> jnewt: running that deprecated stuff in a vm on the new system could be a solution.
[21:10] <Americanu> I got an issue here :)
[21:10] <Americanu> I have a dual boot with w10 and ubuntu and internet is not working at all on ubuntu
[21:11] <Americanu> Any way to fix this please?
[21:11] <ppf> Americanu: how is it not working
[21:11] <Americanu> It shows as if its not receiving any connections
[21:11] <OerHeks> Americanu, 1st thing in my mind: disable fastboot in w10, ( not secure boot ) that could prevent networking
[21:11] <ppf> can you ping something?
[21:12] <Americanu> Not on ubuntu
[21:12] <Americanu> It says host unknown
[21:12] <ppf> and an address?
[21:12] <ppf> ping 8.8.8.8
[21:12] <Americanu> Fastboot might affect it ?
[21:12] <Americanu> Let me see
[21:13] <Americanu> Unreachable
[21:13] <ppf> can you paste ifconfig?
[21:13] <Americanu> Im on the phone now so i cant really
[21:14] <ppf> paste a screenshot?
[21:14] <Americanu> this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vekJB78u/irccloudcapture1643902794.jpg
[21:15] <Americanu> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nOvyiqfc/irccloudcapture-689096913.jpg
[21:15] <ppf> are you connected to the network?
[21:15] <OerHeks> no ip for enp3s0
[21:15] <ppf> no ip on your ethernet
[21:16] <OerHeks> try fastboot disable
[21:16] <Americanu> Do you know how  do it ?
[21:16] <Americanu> And internet wired is workijg , at least on w10
[21:16] <Americanu> Working*
[21:17] <OerHeks> Americanu, nope, w10 is a jar with trouble, it is in settings somewhere
[21:17] <Americanu> Ahhh ok
[21:17] <Americanu> OerHeks Ill search for it
[21:18] <bruce__> did you try setup the wired network manually?
[21:20] <Americanu> No i didnt set it up manually bruce__
[21:21] <Americanu> Fastboot didnt sort it
[21:22] <Americanu> How can i get thr details for a manual network?
[21:22] <teward> Americanu: you would need to ask whomever maintains that network for the details to enter
[21:23] <teward> if it's your own network, you can get a 'starting point' by grabbing some information off another system and choosing another IP in the range that the network runs on
[21:23] <teward> but since I don't know enough about your network, I can't really give more info than that
[21:23] <BlueProtoman> I have a computer with two SSDs; one has two partitions (for Windows and Linux), and one has a single NTFS partition that's entirely for OS-agnostic files (like code, music, and movies).  When trying to read from particular files in my common drive, I get ` nput/output error`s.  What could be broken?
[21:24] <Americanu> There was a commmand that rebooted the network manager and it gt sorteed once
[21:26] <GabeF7> 77777777222212222777787878787878754545000
[21:26] <Bashing-om> BlauskaerM: Windows still with the drive mounted ? Or maybe a not "safely Ummounted" situation ?
[21:30] <Americanu> Any other solution for the internet ?
[21:34] <fedecupe> good evening, I'm looking for help in installing a displaylink driver with newer evdi module. Anyone cares to help?
[21:35] <mio> hello
[21:37] <ppf> Americanu: is network manager running?
[21:38] <ppf> Americanu: which ubuntu is this?
[21:38] <Americanu> It should be ,i see the icon on top , its 16.04
[21:38] <ppf> well, you can use it to configure your network
[21:39] <Americanu> Added connection manualy and it didnt activate the internet con
[21:39] <ppf> what's it say about Connection Information?
[21:40] <Americanu> Where csn i see that
[21:40] <Americanu> Can*
[21:40] <ppf> right click the network manager icon
[21:40] <Americanu> Oh that thing , it says "ethernet network disconnected"
[21:41] <Americanu> And connection information is greyed out
[21:41] <ppf> then tell it to connect to your network?
[21:42] <Americanu> I don't want to look that stupid but i did click ensble networking
[21:43] <ppf> then click the on actual connection
[21:43] <Americanu> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/t9RwBwDT/irccloudcapture1450289585.jpg
[21:43] <Americanu> Uhm heres what it shows up
[21:44] <ppf> Edit connections?
[21:44] <ppf> your cable is plugged in, right?
[21:44] <Americanu> Yeah it is , i tried the internet with w10 20 minutes ago
[21:45] <Americanu> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/73lk1lIy/irccloudcapture18650808.jpg
[21:45] <ppf> did you do anything in /etc/network/interfaces.d/?
[21:45] <Americanu> Nope its empty there as far as i know
[21:46] <ppf> and /etc/network/interfaces as well?
[21:46] <Americanu> It has auto lo
[21:47] <ppf> okay
[21:47] <Americanu> And iface lo inet loopback
[21:47] <ppf> then use ifconfig to configure the interface
[21:48] <ppf> and also check journalctl -u NetworkManager
[21:49] <Americanu> There is a red line on the journalctl
[21:50] <Americanu> Nm_device_get_device_type: assertion nm_if_device (self) failed
[21:52] <ppf> configure the interface manually
[21:53] <Americanu> Sorry , how do i edit this read only as i cant change its permissions
[21:53] <ppf> edit what?
[21:53] <Americanu> Interfaces file
[21:53] <ppf> use ifconfig
[21:54] <noimnotninevolt> ifconfig doesn't persist changes across boots.
[21:54] <ppf> well, or change the interfaces file, yes
[21:54] <ppf> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:54] <Americanu> Oh alright cheers let me try to edit
[21:55] <fedecupe> good evening, I'm looking for help in installing a displaylink driver with newer evdi module. Anyone cares to help?
[21:58] <Americanu> Still not working .. jesus and this thijg is only for the internet
[21:58] <Americanu> Thing
[21:58] <ppf> what did you put in the interfaces file now?
[21:59] <Bashing-om> fedecupe: Sorry, but I do not recognize the term " displaylink driver " or " evdi module " . details ?
[21:59] <Americanu> Ppf so on the ifconfig i have 2 "things" lo and enp3s0, i replaced lo with enp3s0 in interfaces
[22:00] <fedecupe> Bashing-om displaylink is a "thing" to make multiple monitors work over usb (in my case is a dock), evdi is a module for that ( here my askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/874558/cant-install-displaylink-driver-with-current-kernel)
[22:00] <ppf> Americanu: that's not gonna work
[22:00] <ppf> man interfaces
[22:01] <Americanu> Im not that much of a ubuntu savy, what is man and how do i do it ?
[22:01] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, you need to add 2 lines to the file, that's all
[22:01] <ppf> you type it into your terminal
[22:02] <ppf> it's a documentation viewer
[22:02] <Americanu> Well i am inside interfaces
[22:02] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[22:02] <ppf> yes, open the manpage to read how the interface file works
[22:02] <Bashing-om> fedecupe: K; sorry out of my experience range . Mostly answered such that you know we are aware of your need . I expect others here to now pick up my slack .
[22:02] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, "auto enp3s0" and "iface enp3s0 inet dhcp" should do the trick
[22:02] <OerHeks> might be a help, but i wonder what w10 does with your network interfave
[22:03] <fedecupe> Bashing-om thanks anyway :)
[22:03] <Americanu> Well tbh i dont thnk  it can do anything as i have grub
[22:04] <Americanu> heathenwolfe:  those lies stll dont do snything to my internet...
[22:05] <Americanu> Lines*
[22:05] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, still need to restart the network service after that
[22:05] <ppf> yes, that just tells your system what to do with the interfaces
[22:05] <ppf> systemctl restart networking
[22:05] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, easiest is rebooting your pc into Ubuntu again
[22:06] <Americanu> Jesus finally
[22:06] <Americanu> Internet connection
[22:06] <Americanu> Thanks guys
[22:06] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, congratulations
[22:06] <Americanu> Thanks all of ya lol
[22:07] <heathenwolfe> ppf, thanks for the "systemctl restart networking", didn't knew that one
[22:09] <Americanu> Gonna sort the ubuntu downlosds now lol
[22:12] <Americanu> Wow :/ aparently its just the icon showing that it has connection. Its not connecting to anything
[22:14] <Americanu> So no internet connection at al aparently.. jesus whats wrong with this
[22:15] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: for some aparent reason now i have on ifconfig enp3s0:avahi
[22:15] <Americanu> Along lo and enp3s0
[22:16] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, sounds like mdns
[22:17] <Americanu> Whats that?
[22:18] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it's nothing to worry about, just automatic hostname resolution
[22:19] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: but i cant connect to the internet still... It changed the top icon tho
[22:19] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, if you have e.g. two computers (pc1, pc2) on the network, you can communicate for example ping pc2.local from pc1 without using ip addresses
[22:19] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, is your networkmanager still active?
[22:19] <zuiss1> is it true that installing ubuntu with encryption on a SSD will lead to poor performance compared to unencrypted? https://askubuntu.com/questions/53872/how-do-i-set-up-full-disk-encryption-on-an-ssd
[22:20] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe It shows up top still in , so i guess yeah
[22:20] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: clicking on connection information it says  no valid connection found
[22:21] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, I guess it doesn't show the active enp3s0 connection via networkmanager because you bypassed it via the /etc/network/interfaces
[22:22] <Americanu> What can i do tho ? I mean i still dont have connectin
[22:22] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, /etc/network/interfaces is typically for static or servers
[22:23] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, try listing "nmcli con show" in the terminal
[22:23] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, you should see a connection for enp3s0 as well
[22:24] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, then just "nmcli con up NAME" where NAME is the connection name which owns the enp3s0 if it already exists
[22:24] <Americanu> heathenwolfe:  right so under device theres -- , the uuid is showing and it shows ethernet connection 1
[22:25] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, if it's showing up in green text then it's enabled, if not
[22:25] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, then enable it via $ nmcli con up "ethernet connection 1"
[22:25] <highIQ> 6,000,000 LIES!!! THE GREATEST HOAX IN HISTORY https://youtu.be/TAtVKLATABM
[22:25] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: nope it shows in white... :(
[22:26] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, just needs enabling then or maybe terminal colors are disabled, no biggie
[22:26] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: "no suitable device found for this device""
[22:26] <Americanu> This connection*
[22:27] <Americanu> Should i delete this ethernet connection and recreste it ?
[22:27] <Americanu> Recreate
[22:27] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it's also possible via the normal network menu in ubuntu, this is just quick way to check stuff behind the scenes
[22:30] <Americanu> heathenwolfe:  unfortunately it didnt do anything different.. uhm would it be because i crested myself that ethernet connection after the instalation of ubuntu
[22:30] <Americanu> Created*
[22:30] <Americanu> Is there a way to automatically create a wired con?
[22:32] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it should have been created during installation...
[22:33] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: this is the only thing that was created
[22:34] <Zythyr> Need help. In my Ubuntu in terminal I typed "startx". Now everytime I reboot and try to login, it takes me back ot the login screen again. I can't login to the Desktop
[22:35] <Ben64> Zythyr: you shouldn't use startx
[22:35] <k1l> Zythyr: go to tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) then login, then look with "ls -al" what belongs to root-root and not your user. if its the .Xauthority file chown them back to your user:user
[22:35] <k1l> Zythyr: after that go back with ctrl+alt+f7 and login
[22:36] <k1l> Zythyr: and for the future: dont run startx,
[22:36] <Zythyr> k1l Okay let me try that
[22:37] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, okay, when you right click the connections there should be one connection e.g. "wired connection 1"
[22:37] <Mister> Hello?
[22:38] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, double check if there's a checkmark next to "enable networking"
[22:38] <Mister> Excuse me, I was wondering if I could get a touch of help.
[22:38] <Zythyr> k1l Thank you very much!
[22:38] <Zythyr> That fixed the problem
[22:38] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, and "edit connections...", select the connection, edit, go to ipv4 tab and see if it's configured as automatic dhcp
[22:39] <Mister> I think I've gotten in over my head buying a computer with Linux installed.
[22:40] <Mister> Because I have absolutely no idea what's going on.
[22:40] <Ben64> Mister: explain the issue
[22:41] <Mister> Well, I've tried running steam on an old Lenovo I bought for a great price
[22:41] <Mister> And I've been advised to switch from a 32 bit system to a 62 bit?
[22:42] <Mister> Wrapping my head around doing that has proven impossible.
[22:42] <k1l> Mister: dont run 32bit OS if your cpu is 64bit
[22:42] <k1l> Mister: that means reinstall to change it to 64bit
[22:42] <Americanu> Yes it is
[22:42] <Mister> How would I go about doing that?
[22:42] <Americanu> heathenwolfe:  it is as automatic dhcp
[22:42] <Mister> I don't know the first thing about Linux.
[22:43] <k1l> Mister: do what? reinstall?
[22:43] <Mister> Yes.
[22:44] <Mister> I just bought the laptop today, I didn't come with a disk or anything.
[22:44] <k1l> what laptop is it?
[22:44] <Mister> It's an old lenevo, probably about ten years old.
[22:44] <Mister> Maybe less. Maybe more like 6
[22:44] <Mister> 7
[22:44] <Mister> A think pad?
[22:44] <k1l> "i have a green car, its 7 years old" :)
[22:45] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: any ideas what else i can do ?
[22:46] <k1l> Mister: please open a terminal and run "lscpu | nc termbin.com 9999" that will output a url, please show that here
[22:48] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, well first of all let's take a step back & see what's happening.
[22:48] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, $ ip addr, check that enp3s0 has an ipv4 address
[22:49] <OerHeks> Americanu, you did edit /etc/network/interfaces ?? change it back perhaps?
[22:50] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, OerHeks, well i guess he has some interference between /interfaces & networkmanager, but either should be able to grab at least an ip address if they are configured correctly
[22:50] <Americanu> OerHeks:  ill change it back in a bit and heathenwolfe  enp3s0 has the physical adress corectly (the one w10 has)
[22:51] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe ts like and ipv6 i think , i mean the ip
[22:52] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe similar to f3:45:45:26:4a:57
[22:52] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, as long as it says "scope link/host" next to ipv6 no worries
[22:54] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe Oh ok it does, link/ether
[22:54] <Mister> I entered in the command and it gave me a bunch of options.
[22:54] <Americanu> What next
[22:54] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, check your default route via $ ip route
[22:54] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it should say default via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (your router ip)
[22:55] <Americanu> Doesnt prompt anything as if its an empty command
[22:55] <k1l> Mister: just copy and paste "lscpu | nc termbin.com 9999" into terminal
[22:56] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, hm... the command runs fine in my 16.04 livecd
[22:57] <Americanu> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pVT9NKcC/irccloudcapture-41523720.jpg
[22:57] <Americanu> Ip route , nothing , not even an error
[22:57] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, $ echo $?
[22:57] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe sorry i keep forgetting to mention your name
[22:58] <Americanu> Nothing , empty box
[22:58] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, yeah no worries it's just so other people in the channel know who you're talking with, there are other convo's here at the same time
[22:58] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, $ echo $? should give the exit code of the last run command (ip route), should be 0 or 1
[22:59] <Mister> Should I remove the spaces or anything? I've typed it in manually and it didn't give me a URL, with and without the quotations
[22:59] <Mister> I was missing the extra 9
[22:59] <Mister> I have it now.
[22:59] <k1l> Mister: that sign is a pipe: | not a L or smething
[22:59] <Americanu> heathenwolfe https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/az4kt1t1/irccloudcapture1141992665.jpg
[23:00] <gustavohmsilva_> hi guys... is there a way to change my pc from uefi to bios AFTER installing ubuntu?
[23:00] <k1l> Mister: ok, please copy the url into here
[23:00] <gustavohmsilva_> virtualbox is giving me problems with the dammt uefi
[23:00] <Americanu> Oh btw is it safe to share the ubuntu user name ?
[23:00] <Mister> http://termbin.com/o0jw
[23:00] <Mister> user@linux-laptop:~$
[23:01] <k1l> Mister: ok, that is a 64bit cpu
[23:02] <Mister> So I'm able to download the 64 bit Linux distribution system?
[23:02] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23871761/
[23:02] <k1l> Mister: what is the outpu of "uname -a"?
[23:02] <Mister> I'll type that in.
[23:02] <Mister> Linux linux-laptop 4.4.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 13 00:06:14 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:03] <zuiss1> anyone know why the ubuntu installer gives an option to use the whole disk and set up encrypted lvm, but then later in the installation process it asks you if you want to encrypt your home directory? why does it ask you that if you already chose encryption earlier?
[23:03] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, well that's the issue there isn't any route to forward the traffic to so that's why you can't access the internet
[23:03] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: did you open terminal with some permissions ? Sudo su?
[23:03] <k1l> Mister: ok, that is a 32bit OS on a 64bit cpu. i would recommend a reinstall if you start new anyway
[23:03] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, nope just normal user
[23:03] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, try as root
[23:03] <Americanu> heathenwolfe: right how csn i fix this
[23:03] <Mister> How do I reinstall?
[23:03] <Mister> Off of the internet?
[23:04] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, okay try to comment the stuff you put in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:04] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe nope , stil the same
[23:04] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, the default there is just one comment line and 2 lines for auto lo loopback
[23:04] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe done
[23:05] <k1l> Mister: download the 64bit 16.04 LTS iso from the ubuntu.com webpage. then you have the iso and you start the usb-creator program and "burn" that onto a usb pendrive. after that you boot that usb and start the installer.
[23:05] <OerHeks> Mister, download the iso, burn it on dvd or use an USB device, and boot/install
[23:05] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, # systemctl restart networking
[23:05] <Mister> Do I type in boot/install in the command
[23:05] <Mister> Or is it an option I can just clock on?
[23:06] <elisa87> please have a look at this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/876282/how-to-play-avi-file-from-a-remotely-connected-ubuntu-with-x-flag-without-dro
[23:06] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[23:06] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Standard_installation
[23:06] <Americanu> heathenwolfe:  right so i commented all the lines with # and issued the command , what now ?:)
[23:06] <Mister> Thank you guys for your help. Thanks a bunch k1l.
[23:06] <Mister> I'm going to try to do this.
[23:06] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, for good measure # systemctl restart NetworkManager.service
[23:06] <Mister> It's all a bit confusing the first time.
[23:06] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, then check # ip addr and # ip route
[23:07] <k1l> Mister: i dont know why that guy installed 32bit in first place
[23:07] <OerHeks> elisa87, "How to open a .avi video from a -X ssh session?"i think you can not, no playhing video over ssh.
[23:07] <Americanu> Ip addr is same and ip route is stil not working heathenwolfe
[23:07] <Mister> Idk, maybe he doesn't like me.
[23:07] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, okay, then i have 2 interfaces when using $ nmcli con show
[23:07] <elisa87> OerHeks: it plays .mov files
[23:08] <OerHeks> elisa87, .mov over ssh? really?
[23:08] <Mister> What is the USB-Creator program? Is it on here?
[23:08] <Americanu> Uhm i think i have one ccalled ice and one ethernet connectin
[23:08] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, disregard last thing i said, that was wrong
[23:08] <Americanu> Mister rufus?
[23:09] <Mister> I need to find a USB drive.
[23:09] <k1l> Mister: search for "usb creator"
[23:09] <k1l> Mister: on the program launcher
[23:09] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, okay let's try to get NM running now
[23:10] <Americanu> heathenwolfe:  well lets see. Hopefully its gonna be fast hah
[23:10] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, does it show no entry for device enp3s0 in $nmcli con show   ?
[23:10] <elisa87> yes OerHeks
[23:11] <Americanu> So the device row has --
[23:11] <Americanu> Like two dashes
[23:12] <Americanu> Wait sorry... The "ice" that i was saying was the rest of the word of device
[23:12] <OerHeks> if one gets a .mov to play over ssh, why would .avi be different? i never got it to work anyway, 'encrypted' movie over lan.
[23:12] <Americanu> And there is no mention of enp3s0 heathenwolfe
[23:13] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, okay, edit connections
[23:13] <Americanu> Right
[23:13] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, edit the connection where it says --
[23:13] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, check under the tab device that enp3s0 is selected
[23:13] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe it is
[23:13] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it should say Device enp3s0 (mac address)
[23:14] <Americanu> Yup it is selected already
[23:14] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, automatic dhcp as well under ipv4 but you checked that allready
[23:14] <Americanu> True it is auto dhcp
[23:15] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, try to connect with this connection
[23:16] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, so close the configs, then click the network icon and click the name of the connection
[23:16] <Americanu> Its greyed out i guess
[23:16] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, alternatively, $ nmcli con up "Name"
[23:16] <flyback> when you install packages in ubuntu are any config files etc set based on cpu detected
[23:16] <Americanu> heathenwolfe https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/r8USK1xn/irccloudcapture-499496301.jpg
[23:17] <flyback> or are all the cpu optimizations in the executables entirely
[23:17] <flyback> man I am getting senile
[23:17] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, aha
[23:17] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it says your network device is not managed
[23:17] <Americanu> "no suitable devices found for this connection" in terminal
[23:18] <Americanu> Yeah but the wire is plugged in
[23:18] <Americanu> On w10 i dont have issues with it heathenwolfe
[23:18] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, for me it lists the connection right under "Ethernet network" and then "disconnect" under it if it's connected
[23:18] <Americanu> I know i understand that
[23:18] <Americanu> Would the instalation of ubuntu be corupted ?
[23:19] <courrier> I'm planning to buy an Aquaris M10 but the Ubuntu edition is out of stock, can I buy an Android version and install Ubuntu Touch easily?
[23:20] <k1l> courrier: i suggest you ask in #ubuntu-touch
[23:20] <courrier> thanks k1l :)
[23:20] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, might be because you edited it in /etc/network/interfaces, http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[23:21] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, give it a reboot or restart the services
[23:22] <Americanu> Ok il reboot heathenwolfe
[23:22] <Americanu> Should i do that sudo command in the post you made?
[23:23] <Americanu> You sent*
[23:23] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, well first check $ ip addr and $ ip route before touching stuff
[23:23] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, see if your network menu says the connection is managed or not
[23:24] <Americanu> Ip route is still not saying anything
[23:24] <Americanu> Ethernet now say disconnected instead of "not managed"
[23:24] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, just click the connection
[23:24] <Americanu> Its greyed out
[23:25] <Mister> Excuse me k1l, but do I run or save the file
[23:25] <coffeeguy> hi in ubuntu is a thread used as a core in intel processors?
[23:25] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, screenshot?
[23:25] <flyback> if I leave in the current core2duo and load lubuntu/ubuntu
[23:25] <k1l> Mister: save
[23:26] <Americanu> heathenwolfe https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/rpRlwUvI/irccloudcapture53686366.jpg
[23:26] <flyback> then upgrade to a newer revision core2duo that has sse4 is there something set at distro install or package install time
[23:26] <flyback> that would be affected by that
[23:26] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, I have the same situation when i pull the ethernet plug
[23:26] <Mister> Thanks.
[23:27] <Americanu> Hmmm
[23:27] <Mister> I'd much rather try to work with Linux then just get rid of it and run windows 7
[23:27] <Mister> Because it seems very interesting.
[23:28] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, plugging back in seems to autoconnect
[23:28] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, and then it says "Wired connection 1" on second line and "disconnect" on line 3
[23:28] <nacc> coffeeguy: Linux does not generally differentiate between hardware threads and hardware cpus/cores, why do you ask?
[23:28] <Americanu>  Heathenwolfe i just did that and it does nothing
[23:28] <coffeeguy> hmm vmware player isn't utilizing all the cores i set for it or ubuntu isn't
[23:29] <coffeeguy> i have a 4 core intel and i set 2 cores for vmware player and top shows vmware player using 200% cpu
[23:29] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, okay so i have reproduced the results you have with $ ip route by unplugging
[23:30] <coffeeguy> with one core set it's back to 16% cpu on top
[23:30] <Americanu> Hmmm
[23:30] <Americanu> That doesnt make sense. I can connect to internet with w10 on same machine heathenwolfe
[23:30] <coffeeguy> one core set in vmware player settings
[23:31] <elisa87> please have a look at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/41884842/internalerror-see-above-for-traceback-dst-tensor-is-not-initialized
[23:31] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, sounds like something with drivers although i'm not sure on that
[23:32] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, did you have internet connection with the livecd?
[23:32] <Americanu> Well i did for a bit
[23:32] <coffeeguy> note: vmware workstation package updated today too
[23:32] <Americanu> Like i found once a command that reboots something on network mansger
[23:33] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, a bit?
[23:33] <Americanu> And it worked
[23:33] <Americanu> Like until the next reboot
[23:33] <Americanu> Ill try to reinstall Ubuntu
[23:33] <Americanu> I think itt may have not be installed
[23:34] <Americanu> Corectly
[23:34] <k1l> what network card is it?
[23:34] <Americanu> Integrsted
[23:34] <nacc> coffeeguy: can you take a screenshot of the vmware's options to specify core count to the guest? i don't use vmware myself
[23:34] <Americanu> Integrated
[23:34] <k1l> Americanu: run "lspci" and show the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:35] <nacc> coffeeguy: aiui, you specify cores per cpu, not cores themselves?
[23:35] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, integrated doesn't say anything about chipset, my lsmod mentions e1000 because i'm using intel nic
[23:36] <Americanu> I cant paste it on pastebin as i dont have internet on it ?
[23:36] <peyam> hi
[23:36] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, oops
[23:37] <peyam> When I turn the computer on , it shows the booting logo of Xubuntu and then it goes to black screen
[23:37] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, save it to a textfile using $ lsmod > output.txt
[23:37] <peyam> anyone know what to do?
[23:37] <coffeeguy> http://imgur.com/a/m6LLX nacc
[23:37] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, and then to usb stick or on your w10 partition
[23:37] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | peyam
[23:38] <Americanu> Lsmod > output.txt?
[23:38] <Americanu> It does nothing , like similar to ip route i guess
[23:38] <peyam> Bashing-om: I can not see the desktop. Im writting from irrsi in command line using ctrl alt f1
[23:38] <coffeeguy> hehe i hope i didn't show too much ;)
[23:38] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, yes
[23:38] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, it redirects the output of your screen to the file
[23:38] <peyam> Bashing-om: im sorry. Can not see anything. if you only explain to me how to get it to work
[23:39] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, cat output.txt
[23:39] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, then you'll see the output
[23:39] <Americanu> Oh sorry yea
[23:39] <pavlos> Americanu, try, lsmod | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:39] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, alternatively this will show both on the terminal and save it to a file $ lsmod | tee output.txt
[23:39] <hugo_> hi
[23:39] <hugo_> hi
[23:39] <hugo_> hi
[23:39] <hugo_> hi
[23:40] <peyam> if any could help me. My entire work is in here
[23:40] <Americanu> heathenwolfe https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0w14ScCy/irccloudcapture-1653170229.jpg
[23:40] <Bashing-om> peyam: As you are in terminal now . to install the proprietary driver run ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Reboot to see the effect .
[23:41] <Americanu> heathenwolfe https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YypT58oM/irccloudcapture-1372786817.jpg
[23:41] <k1l> Americanu: "lspci" is the command
[23:41] <peyam> i will thanks
[23:41] <nacc> coffeeguy: hrm, i'm not sure -- i'd guess based upon that screen that it's not suggesting the VM cores correspond to physical cores, but rather to logical CPUs.
[23:41] <k1l> (to list the network cards)
[23:41] <Americanu> I pasted that lsmod gives , i can do lspci too
[23:42] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, yeah sorry about all the terminal stuff, it shouldn't happen during your first foray into Ubuntu. Unfortunately things tend to break
[23:42] <coffeeguy> logical cpus ok but if set to 2 it's shouldn't be registering in 'top' as 200% or am i missing something
[23:42] <heathenwolfe> k1l, Americanu, sorry for the mixup between lsmod & lspci...
[23:42] <Americanu> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Xv7y8nyY/irccloudcapture460518180.jpg
[23:42] <nacc> coffeeguy: why not? 200% cpu means it is using 2 logical cpus
[23:42] <coffeeguy> ok
[23:43] <Americanu> This is the lspci lol its alright heathenwolfe , i do appreciate the help
[23:43] <peyam> It says that the newest driver were installed
[23:43] <k1l> Americanu: you mean the ethernet card, not a wifi card, right?
[23:43] <Americanu> Ethernet yes, wired
[23:43] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, k1l, i see Realtek
[23:43] <coffeeguy> i thought top would take into account sum load vs total cores which is 4
[23:43] <Americanu> Realtek is the ethernet one
[23:44] <Americanu> I mean thats what it says on w10
[23:44] <ubuntu-mate> hola  hola hola
[23:44] <Americanu> Hello
[23:44] <nacc> coffeeguy: i don't know exactly what you mean, or why you'd think that
[23:44] <k1l> Americanu: and you have no connection? the cable is not removed when rebooting from windows?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> !tab | peyam Else ya get lost in all the traffic
[23:44] <peyam> When start my Xubuntu 14.04 it shows the booting logo and then black screen appear
[23:44] <coffeeguy> 4 cores with 2 used is out of a 100% total would be 50%
[23:45] <Americanu> K1l i dont touch the wire when i switch os
[23:45] <peyam> Bashing-om: sorry. I closed irssi for a moment. forgot your namr
[23:45] <nacc> coffeeguy: i think you misunderstand what top is showing you
[23:45] <Americanu> Got kicked sorry
[23:45] <nacc> coffeeguy: top doesn't know what cores are
[23:45] <k1l> Americanu: just making sure, would not be the first time the solution :)
[23:45] <Bashing-om> peyam: pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' . see what we can learn .
[23:46] <coffeeguy> so top is just aware of the core it's in?
[23:46] <Americanu> Haha i know its ok
[23:46] <nacc> coffeeguy: no.
[23:46] <nacc> coffeeguy: top is not aware of the core it is in at all
[23:46] <peyam> Bashing-om: do you know How I can keep open and run the terminal?
[23:46] <ubuntu-mate> desde Mexico
[23:46] <coffeeguy> aah ok
[23:46] <nacc> coffeeguy: if by 'in', you mean the core top is running on
[23:46] <coffeeguy> yes
[23:46] <nacc> coffeeguy: you might want to read some guides generally on top,or the manpage
[23:47] <k1l> Americanu: can you show the output of "ifconfig"
[23:47] <coffeeguy> atop?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> peyam: The terminal will remain open . to paste try ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL back on terminal. pass that complete link back here .
[23:48] <Americanu> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mf1sxXMz/irccloudcapture-1081948986.jpg
[23:48] <peyam> Bashing-om: Im in here using ctrl + alt + f1 and then i typed irssi and took whole terminal. if I write it it will close irssi
[23:48] <coffeeguy> ok atop shows all 8cores(threads)
[23:48] <k1l> Americanu: well, there is the ethernet conecction. its called enp3s0
[23:48] <nacc> coffeeguy: top can also show all threads/logical cpus (hit 1)
[23:49] <Americanu> Hmm so what should i do
[23:49] <Americanu> I mean i added
[23:50] <Americanu> On interfaces and nothing happened k1l
[23:50] <Bashing-om> peyam: reoze the orsso window to gain access to the desktop .. and right click on the desktop -> open terminal here . To gain another terminal .
[23:50] <coffeeguy> i should check minimum requirements for ubuntu 16.04.1 maybe using that many cores for vmware player won't leave enough cores for ubuntu
[23:50] <Orestis> hello, I am having Ubuntu 16.10. When I watch videos(mkv or mp4) in stremio,vlc or smplayer I get some video tearing. I have the latest nvidia drivers. The problem occurs with both nvidia and intel graphics cards and with both unity and openbox
[23:50] <k1l> Americanu: try a "sudo service network-manager restart"
[23:51] <Bashing-om> peyam: *resize the irssi window .
[23:51] <peyam> Bashing-om: how do I copy that URL to you?
[23:51] <peyam> Bashing-om: Its only a terminal I can see. no GUI at all
[23:51] <coffeeguy> i thought it would with an i7 3770k 4 core cpu
[23:51] <Americanu> Nothing k1l :(
[23:51] <Americanu> Still no connection
[23:52] <Americanu> Oh no
[23:52] <Americanu> Wait
[23:52] <Bashing-om> peyam: drag the mouse over the link .. and in irssi middle click to paste the contents .
[23:52] <Americanu> It worked
[23:52] <Americanu> Now how do i keep this from resetting ?
[23:52] <Americanu> And thank you !
[23:52] <peyam> Bashing-om: I dont thing you get my point. try to click ctrl+alt+F1
[23:52] <k1l> Americanu: can you come in here with that machine?
[23:53] <peyam> and see. there is no mouse nothing
[23:53] <Americanu> Yeah
[23:53] <Americanu> Bare with me a bit
[23:53] <coffeeguy> i see vmware player is just using exactally one core in atop no matter what it's set too
[23:53] <k1l> Americanu: that will make pasting stuff more easy :)
[23:53] <Americanu> I need to install hex
[23:53] <pavlos> sudo apt install hexchat
[23:53] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, so did you add a new connetion?
[23:54] <Americanu> No just did that sudo service network-manager restart command
[23:54] <Americanu> I think thats the command that worked before
[23:54] <Americanu> Let me install hex and ill be here
[23:54] <peyam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23872101/  Bashing-om  try this. i just read and typed it here
[23:55] <k1l> that command just restarted the network. that is a "easy" workaround. lets see if we can fix the issue
[23:55] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, doesn't seem too different from systemctl restart NetworkManager..., maybe didn't you sudo this?
[23:55] <Bashing-om> peyam: Yeah .. a dohhhh moment on my part . I do not know how one can copy and paste in a F1 terminal .
[23:56] <Americanu> Whoops... I think i just typed systemctl... I didnt know i need to sudo it
[23:56] <peyam> Bashing-om: can you see the link I send you?
[23:56] <Americanu_ubuntu> test?
[23:56] <Americanu_ubuntu> right
[23:56] <Americanu_ubuntu> so hello again lol
[23:56] <k1l> systemctl is the proper command for systemd now, but that "old" service command still works
[23:57] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: ok, please run a "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[23:57] <Americanu_ubuntu> dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:57] <Americanu_ubuntu> http://termbin.com/9g2m
[23:57] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: and while i read that you can make sure to get all the updates with "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[23:57] <Americanu_ubuntu> ok cheers k1l
[23:58] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  thank you aswell too
[23:58] <Bashing-om> peyam: Ya done good, we know that the graphics are Intel and the correct driver is loaded . So next is do "you" have the authority to access your desktop ?.. show in a pastebin ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' .
[23:58] <Americanu_ubuntu> really i appreciate it :)
[23:58] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, you're welcome, let's hope this gets you going somewhere. Also debugging from a distance is harder than it looks haha
[23:59] <Americanu_ubuntu> i know especially if the noob forgets to do the sudo beforehand