[02:07] <m0nkey_> Gah, it's been almost two and a half hours since I went to the dentist, and my mouth still hasn't unfrozen.
[02:13] <m0nkey_> Odd sensation though, drinking cold water feels warm on one side of my tongue
[06:46] <knightwise> morning
[08:02] <diplo> Morning all
[08:21] <foobarry> hello from a train
[08:22] <foobarry> never irc'd on a train before :|
[08:25] <diplo> I used to do that on my way up to Nottingham on the train
[08:25] <diplo> Bored our of my brain :P
[08:28] <foobarry> heh i'm on my way to leicester
[08:33] <diplo> Poor you :P
[08:41] <foobarry> i need MOSH
[08:46] <SuperMatt> You want to mosh?
[08:46]  * SuperMatt starts playing some Iron Maiden
[09:38] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:07] <SuperMatt> morning
[10:11] <brobostigon> morning
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> o/
[10:23] <diplo> Hey guys, we support customers remotely using teamviewer, someone has mentioned Zoho assist, any of you guys used it before ?
[10:31] <SuperMatt> What do you support your customers in doing exactly?
[10:31] <SuperMatt> personally, I don't trust any of the remote software
[10:33] <diplo> Neither do I, desktop support occasionally, setting up sessions to our software
[10:34] <diplo> We're using a very old version of teamviewer licensed and it's either upgrade time or try another product, just thought i'd see what others use
[10:39] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:34] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Not a lot of help, but lots of alts here - http://alternativeto.net/software/teamviewer/?license=free (Zoho Assist is in there too)
[11:34] <TwistedLucidity> We make do with Go-To Meeting etc (which doens't work on GNU/Linux)
[11:35] <TwistedLucidity> Oh, I've restricted the license to Free/Open; easy enough to add proprietary back in.
[11:40] <davmor2> Rocketchat does voice and video calls I believe
[11:48] <foobarry> anyone use google keep?
[11:48] <foobarry> opinions vs evernote?
[11:48] <davmor2> foobarry: I do but only cause I use voice to make notes and that is what it defaults to
[11:50] <davmor2> foobarry: personally I think it is more basic than evernote but it depends how many of evernotes features you used
[11:52] <foobarry> sharing notes, reading on my phone, also share to evernote from a web page
[11:52] <foobarry> the evernote web clipper is really good
[11:53] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Does it allow for remote control?
[11:53] <TwistedLucidity> "it" being RocketChat.
[11:54] <davmor2> foobarry: keep I think does all of that only obviously using all google services.
[11:54] <TwistedLucidity> And, more importantly, can it punch people who don't read the step-by-step instructions that are in front of their face?
[11:55] <diplo> We do use on some linux desktops TwistedLucidity - hadn't taken that into account actually thanks
[11:55] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: no, no you can't, but you can run sudo snap install slappy ;)
[11:56] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: LOL
[11:56] <diplo> I use Keep for my shopping lists, make it at work and tick off in the shop
[11:56] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: If it's Linux-linux, just "ssh -Y" the wee sod. Or proxy VNC over SSH.
[11:57] <diplo> Yeah, the people who are controlling it etc are not the cleverest
[11:57]  * TwistedLucidity sorts his parent's router by proxying the web interface over a reverse SSH tunnel. Feels l33t.
[11:57] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: not sure about features you would need to check on theirs site, as far as I am aware it is somewhere between slack and hangouts
[11:57] <foobarry> Like the Chrome Save to Google extension, the Keep clipping function doesn’t clip the entire page, so it’s still not a full replacement for apps like Pocket and Evernote. Still, these are nice updates if you want to use Keep not just for taking notes but also quickly saving things from the web
[11:57] <TwistedLucidity> Used slack for ~5 mins, never used hangouts; but I shall check. Thanks!
[11:58] <TwistedLucidity> For Pocket, consider Wallabag.
[11:58] <foobarry> pocket doesn't work for me
[11:59] <foobarry> first few web pages i tried just didn't work
[11:59] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: On the RocketChat page now. No idea what it does, too busy playing with the floating dots on their banner :-S
[12:00] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: sucka
[12:01] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: just read the features and click on the demo
[12:01] <TwistedLucidity> Ooo, it's in a snap. Right, really need to figure out how to get a snap to use an external MariaDB instance on not bundle it's own. But will deffo test it out.
[12:09] <SuperMatt> diplo: I use Keep in the same way
[12:09] <TwistedLucidity> LOL. Screensharing is undocumented.
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> "Why can't I remote monitor the server?"
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> "Is the service running?"
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> "No. Do I need to start it?"
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> ARGH!
[12:31] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: Hello World isn't just a developer demo, it's an introduction the pain the world will inflict on you when you hit the release button :)
[13:47] <foobarry> aww google keep clipper doesn't store the text from a web page
[13:47] <foobarry> just a link
[13:47] <foobarry> evernote is so much better
[13:48] <davmor2> foobarry: I did say it was more basic
[13:49] <davmor2> foobarry: my usage is mostly reminders and shopping lists so it is perfect for me
[13:54] <foobarry> its a shame or i'd switch over
[14:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[14:10] <davmor2> SebthreeBQM10HD: hi
[14:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, hi
[15:43] <diplo> Anyone updated cPanel DNS via a script ?
[15:43] <diplo> Like my example for Digital OCean the other day, most of the stuff I'm finding is a few years old, but thought I'd ask around before writing my own
[15:54] <SuperMatt> my opinion of cpanel is "ARGH! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
[16:05] <davmor2> popey: you are evil
[16:10] <diplo> SuperMatt: Agreed.
[23:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ]
[23:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> -6777yyyyy
[23:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi