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heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, protip: # means run command as root, $ means run as normal user. My fault on this one i didn't mention to sudo stuff like systemctl00:00
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe, oh i didnt knew that # and $ have those meanings00:00
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, for the record starting, stopping, enabling, disabling services via systemctl require root typically00:01
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: well, that is just a workaround. but please show the output of "grep r8169 /etc/modprobe.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" from another opened terminal (let the update run to the end on the first terminal)00:01
Americanu_ubuntuaaah00:01
Americanu_ubuntuit says "use netcat"00:01
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: ok, that means no output. thats ok00:02
Americanu_ubuntuah00:02
peyamBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23872149/00:02
Bashing-ompeyam: Well. it is not that either, as "you" do have the authority . Can you boot to the GUI from the guest account ?00:04
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, nothing in the ip route means your pc doesn't find a way out of the local network towards the internet.00:04
peyamBashing-om: it does go so long. the first i see is the logo and it goes away after 1 sec then black screen00:05
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, and when it doesn't get an ip address then it's sth with connectivity00:05
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe, ah alright but would it be like an issue with network manager ?00:05
Bashing-ompeyam: This ^ in the guest account too ?00:06
peyamBashing-om: It never go to "select" account00:06
peyamBashing-om: never shows it00:06
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, well connectivity issues it's either physical (bad cables, connectors) or software/firmware (drivers) or wrong configuration in NetworkManager00:07
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: when the update is done without errors, i suggest you do a reinstall and see if the new kernel works better. if it doesnt work, do "sudo service network-manager restart" again.00:07
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe, fair enough lol00:07
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, since you tried w10, it's not the physical part00:07
Americanu_ubuntuk1l,  a reinstall of what, sorry?00:08
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: sorry. reboot. not reinstall00:08
Americanu_ubuntuk1l oh alright haha i got scared a bit lol , yeah will do as soon as it's done00:08
Bashing-ompeyam: Do not know then for sure . this is a xubuntu install of 14.04, correct ?00:08
peyamBashing-om: it's been installed and worked good in 2 years00:09
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, when you upgraded the pc it might have installed a new kernel, reboot to load the new kernel into ram00:09
k1lthe updates should have installed a new kernel build. and that could be fixing that issue already. if not we have some other solutions00:09
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Americanu_ubuntuthank god for you two k1l heathenwolfe00:09
Americanu_ubuntuas soon as it finishes ill reboot it :d00:10
Guest5402is a old nvidia 6200 supported in 16.04?00:10
Bashing-ompeyam: xubuntu ? we can reset the desktop to defaults . but you loose all your own config changes .00:10
peyamBashing-om: I have no problem with that. Just need my thesis files. thats all00:10
mike_602what's the difference between apt update and apt upgrade?00:10
k1lmike_602: update only gets the list with new packages from the servers but doesnt install anything00:11
duncenerdI am trying to use iptables to change the destination IP in the header prior to routing across a VPN to reach a subnet that doesn't have routing, but it's not working00:11
mike_602If I only want packages from 16.04.1 LTS, should I not do apt upgrade or? Because when I update via the GUI and right away go to update via command line w/ upgrade, it finds more updates?00:11
Americanu_ubunturight ill brbr00:12
duncenerdsudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 172.16.16.16 -j DNAT --to-dest 10.10.10.1000:12
Bashing-om!info nvidia-394 xenial | Guest540200:12
ubottuGuest5402: Package nvidia-394 does not exist in xenial00:12
mike_602k1l, apt update will inform if any updates though and will ask you y/n if want those right? so, I don't get it :( lol00:12
Bashing-om!info nvidia-304 xenial | Guest540200:12
ubottuGuest5402: nvidia-304 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.134. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.134-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 20113 kB, installed size 93794 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)00:12
duncenerdand also a POSTROUTING SNAT statement00:12
k1lmike_602: you need to run apt upgrade to install the updates.00:12
duncenerddoes anyone have any ideas why it may not be working?00:12
bazhang#netfilter duncenerd00:13
k1lmike_602: no. open a terminal and run "sudo apt update" you will see the servers that are asked for the packages lists. nothing more00:13
mike_602k1l, so how come when I update via GUI and then update via command line right after w/ apt update && apt upgrade it finds more updates? Is it just an issue w/ the GUI that doesn't catch the updates or those commands doing more than the GUI?00:13
Bashing-ompeyam: try then ' rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ ' reboot to see if that helps .00:14
k1lmike_602: it should not be a difference.00:14
zuiss1anyone know why the ubuntu installer gives an option to use the whole disk and set up encrypted lvm, but then later in the installation process it asks you if you want to encrypt your home directory? why does it ask you that if you already chose encryption earlier?00:15
mike_602k1l, it is though as I've noticed all this week and on 2 different computers both with Ubuntu Unity 16.04.1. Should try it sometime to see what I'm talking about :) It's weird00:15
k1lzuiss1: the first one is LUKS, the second one is encrypted home partition.00:15
AmericanuK1l now that sudo command wont work00:15
AmericanuIm on phone now00:16
AmericanuI mean it wonr re-establish connection00:16
peyamBashing-om: Nothing happened00:16
k1lAmericanu: what exactly? sudo service network-manager restart00:16
AmericanuYup that one k1l00:16
AmericanuI woud of typed it but my phone is slow00:16
peyamBashing-om: is there any way to reinstall or install 16.04 without loosing my files?00:17
Guest5402Thx, is there a viable usb 'external video card' that would work or are those any good? ive not tried one00:17
k1lmike_602: the gui updater does show you once a or two weeks the updates notification. only earlier if its security related. maybe you mean that.00:17
zuiss1k1l: but if you choose LUKS it still asks if you want to encrypt home. but the first option should have already encrypted home00:18
zuiss1so it will be double encryption or something?00:18
mike_602k1l, I run the GUI updater every time I turn on my computer, fully update that way. Then I run sudo apt udpate && sudo apt upgrade and it finds more packages to install00:19
k1lAmericanu: ok, i will make the bot link you a howto for "nomodeset". use the "one time on grub" version. but dont add "nomodeset" but this commands there" net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0". then boot that changes and see if that works00:19
mike_602zuiss1, maybe the first encryption is for root only? not 100% sure00:19
zuiss1mike_602: i doubt it00:19
k1lzuiss1: its both different methods with differen pro and contra.00:20
k1lzuiss1: if you make both, the user data is encrypted again, so once the system is booted (and luks decrypted) the home folders of the users are still safe.00:20
k1lzuiss1: its more about what state or workcase for what encryption method00:21
AmericanuYeah if you tell me what to get and how to do it k1l00:21
k1lAmericanu: sorry :)00:21
k1l!nomodeset | Americanu00:21
ubottuAmericanu: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:21
zuiss1k1l: does the second option to just encrypt home not use LUKS?00:22
mike_602Getting root access to Ubuntu via the Grub, is that still possible? If so, that's not too cool :( Anyone read about that before?00:22
k1lAmericanu: do the temporarily method with the other command i gave you instead of nomodeset00:22
heathenwolfeAmericanu, k1l it's getting late here... good luck with further debugging. I hope it works out for you00:22
AmericanuSo i only add those net.ifnames and biosdevname?00:22
k1lzuiss1: no, that is not LUKS00:22
AmericanuSure then heathenwolfe  thanks for helping tho!00:23
k1lAmericanu: with the numbers00:23
k1lnet.ifnames=0 biosdevname=000:23
Bashing-ompeyam: U have not sone so, but I do understand that in the reinsall (something else) if one unchecks the 'format" option for /home then your personal data will not be overwritten . But we are not to that stage yet !00:23
zuiss1so should i choose to also encrypt home directory even if i chose to use LUKS earlier?00:23
zuiss1what's the downsides?00:24
k1lzuiss1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome00:24
heathenwolfeAmericanu, well it didn't solve anything. When computers cooperate Ubuntu connects automatically to the internet, seems sth funny is happening under the hood.00:25
AmericanuYeah i know heathenwolfe . You still tried which I appreciate!00:26
AmericanuK1l so should i just add the sudo command at end of grub thing?00:29
k1lAmericanu: no00:29
AmericanuOh those 2 params00:29
Americanu?00:30
k1lfollow the instructions for temporarily adding nomodeset. but instead adding net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=000:30
k1lwith =000:30
heathenwolfeAmericanu, you're welcome. Now you know for next laptop, look for Intel networking cards00:30
AmericanuAhh00:30
AmericanuIts a pc desktop heathenwolfe  :d00:30
heathenwolfeAmericanu, when buying next motherboard or desktop00:31
heathenwolfeAmericanu, sorry...00:31
AmericanuHeathenwolfe Aah ok will do ! And dont worry :d00:32
ZythyrIs it possible to reclaim free space from a NTFS file system in order to isntall Ubuntu on it?00:32
k1lZythyr: yes. you can shrink the partition00:32
heathenwolfeAmericanu, cheers & good luck00:32
AmericanuThx goodnight mate00:32
Zythyrk1l Do I just do it in Gparted on Ubuntu Live CD?00:33
k1lZythyr: yes00:33
ZythyrAhh okay that sounds simple.00:33
k1lZythyr: but the installer should offer you that aswell "install alongside windows"00:33
Zythyrahh okay let me try that00:34
ZythyrWhat if do manual configuration. How do I make sure booting occurs properly00:34
AmericanuK1l added that 2 params with =000:35
AmericanuIts booting up now00:35
AmericanuK1l so still no network :(00:36
k1lAmericanu: does "sudo service network-manager restart" work?00:36
AmericanuK1l nope aparently00:37
AmericanuK1l It says ethernet network disconnected00:38
AmericanuAny other solutions?00:40
k1lAmericanu: is "ifconfig" listing "eth0" as device?00:41
AmericanuYes00:41
yalopovguys hi00:41
yalopovheeeelp00:41
yalopovi don't know what to do this problem is annoying aaaa00:42
AmericanuK1l eth0 is there and that enp3s0 is not there anymore00:42
yalopovim using ppas from launchpad and they're so fucking slow00:42
yalopov:'(00:42
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yalopovsorry00:42
k1lAmericanu: ok, that was the idea behind changing that settings in grub for this try.00:42
k1lAmericanu: does "sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off" make any changes?00:43
naccyalopov: afaik, there's no guarantee that PPAs be fast00:43
yalopovi'm pinging ppa.launchpad.net but it seems ok, using httping shows like 500ms00:43
Americanu_ubuntuuhm00:43
Americanu_ubuntuactually00:43
Americanu_ubuntui kind of got it to work with changing the ethernet connection from enp3s0 to eth000:43
yalopovi'm currently dowloading at  8.838 kB/s00:43
Americanu_ubuntulike the device tab k1l00:43
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: please show a "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"00:44
yalopovi mean, thats too slow, on cannonical repos i get like 400 kb/s00:44
Americanu_ubuntuhttp://termbin.com/hxl100:44
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: i am not sure not if that will work with settings those grub parameters permanently or if this was just luck now :)00:44
Americanu_ubuntuk1l should i type that sudo ethtool ?00:45
Americanu_ubuntuk1l aaah00:45
BluPhenix316hi guys, where do you save your xorg.conf when using nvidia-settings? I've tried saving it to /etc/X11 and /usr/share/X11 but the settings aren't applied when rebooting00:45
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Bashing-omBluPhenix316: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf . But the use of this file is depreciated except for "special" use cases .00:48
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: ok, i have to leave now. but i will show you some bits: test with reboot with setting the parameters again on grub. if that works again, then you can follow the howto to make that permanent.00:48
BluPhenix316Bashing-om, yeah that hasn't worked either00:48
BluPhenix316as i mentioned previously00:48
Americanu_ubuntuk1l should i try first without those params?00:48
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: you should make sure that its not set to "enable wake on lan" on windows. that card seems to have a lot of issues when switching from windows and linux back and forth.00:49
wafflejockBluPhenix316, you on 16.04?00:49
Americanu_ubuntuk1l ill double check it on w1000:49
BluPhenix316wafflejock, 16.1000:49
Americanu_ubuntuk1l thanks a lot, you and heathenwolfe gave me hope on trying ubuntu lol00:49
Bashing-omBluPhenix316: Beats me so far, what is the end goal here ?00:49
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: if that all doesnt work: do install "r8168-dkms" on ubuntu when you somehow manage  to get internet again.00:50
BluPhenix316i've tried saving to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf but X doesn't use those files anymore00:50
Americanu_ubuntuok00:50
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: first run with those parameters again in grub (one time solution)00:50
BluPhenix316Bashing-om, I have 2 monitors, but i'm trying to arrange them so the monitor on my left is displayed as the monitor on my life00:50
BluPhenix316i can do it via nvidia-settings, but it doesn't persist across reboots00:50
k1lAmericanu_ubuntu: if that works, then make it the permanent solution from the howto. that would be easy one. no matter check on windows if you have enabled wake on lan. that must be off.00:51
Americanu_ubuntuok i will do that k1l00:51
Americanu_ubuntuill do them now actually00:51
Americanu_ubuntuthanks a lot for the help k1l00:51
k1lthis is opensuse but it shows, that the card is the issue: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Realtek_8169_driver_problem00:52
k1lbye :)00:52
Bashing-omBluPhenix316: Sorry, no experience with dual monitors . No ideas .00:52
Americanu_ubuntubye bye :D00:52
BluPhenix316i have ran into this in the past, i know you save xorg.conf somewhere in /usr00:52
BluPhenix316i just can't remember where00:52
BluPhenix316i've tried /usr/share/X11 but that hasn't worked for me, i wonder if it is /usr/lib/X1100:53
BluPhenix316that seems silly but i dunno00:53
wafflejockBluPhenix316, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/yakkety/man5/xorg.conf.5.html has the list of paths it searches there00:54
ZythyrHow do I ensure my Ubuntu doesn't install in EFI mode00:54
wafflejockBluPhenix316, thought it searched somewhere in ~/.config/ in recent versions but not seeing anything about that00:55
BluPhenix316wafflejock, yeah that is what is throwing me00:55
BluPhenix316it should work in any of the locations i have it saved00:55
BluPhenix316but it isn't00:55
AustralopithecusHello I am running ubuntu mate 16.1 with kabby lake intel GPU, and my computer has crashed and the screen is flickering with blocks of colours (looks really broken) anyways I have tried alt+prnt screen REISUB and it isnt working00:57
Australopithecusis there a safe method to reboot other than that?00:57
ZythyrI am isntalling Ubuntu 16 using a USB drive. How do I prevent UEFI install? I want to do a regular BIOS compability install00:57
Australopithecusas I dont want to hard reset if I dont have to00:57
phpHey00:59
phpI installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my home server and cannot resolve DNS00:59
wafflejockAustralopithecus, can you get to a tty with Ctrl+Alt+F1 if so can do sudo reboot, or sudo shutdown now, I think not sure if that works if your other attempt didn't though00:59
phpmy /etc/resolv.conf contains 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 nameservers00:59
wafflejockphp, you try using nslookup or dig to see what's going on?00:59
Australopithecusi cannot00:59
Australopithecusthe screen is kind of going black now01:00
Australopithecus@wafflejack01:00
wafflejockAustralopithecus, sorry that's the best I know of if you can't get a terminal at all think you have to hard reset01:00
wafflejockmaybe someone else has another option though01:00
phpwafflejock, connection timed out01:00
phpthis is weird01:01
phpwafflejock, now it's saying Server 127.0.1.101:03
phpNo idea where that's from since I removed it from /run/resolvconf/<something here>01:04
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tatertotsit kinda tells you exactly where it's from if you read the top of the file01:04
phptatertots, it doesn't01:05
tatertotsso your resolv.conf doesnt inform you that your changes will be overwritten and not to hand edit the file?01:06
tatertotsit doesn't ?...wanna look again01:06
phpIt says that.01:06
phpBut it doesn't say where it's from.01:06
tatertotsyou know where that info is coming from01:07
phpI've checked on it now and it seems that /run/resolvconf/interface/NetworkManager is being populated with 127.0.1.101:07
phptatertots, please don't treat me like an idiot.01:07
tatertotsi don't name call01:08
phpI didn't name call.01:08
php"please don't treat me like an idiot" means "please don't treat me as if you think I am an idiot"01:08
tatertotsjust fyi your router01:08
phpblagh read your message wrong01:09
phpironic considering I don't want to be called an idiot01:09
phplol01:09
wafflejockphp, if you do dig +trace www.google.com, it should show you basically the whole path to get that resolved01:09
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nooobbbhello01:10
nooobbbcan anyone help me?01:10
wafflejocknot sure why you're seeing 127.0.1.1 there though can pastebin what you're seeing too somewhere that'd probably help, not sure how much I can help with the actual DNS config though I just stumble my way through it01:10
nooobbbI'm trying to install ubuntu01:10
nooobbbbut the USB won't boot01:10
cpufreqdhello, when booting i saw an error message looked further and it is the cpu frequency daemon that's causing trouble. I've had a couple of slowdowns that I'm blaming on the cpu so it is more than likely related, any help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23872397/01:11
phpwafflejock, I think the network config is screwed now. Can't ping any IPs anymore.01:13
phpwafflejock, fixed it01:14
phphad to legit turn off my network and turn it back on01:14
php:D01:14
MarkB2I'm about to start an attempt to install the "official" NVidia driver for my Ubuntu 16.04.1 64-bit installation.  It wants me to exit the X server.. and I'm embarrased to say I don't know how to log out and terminate the server to get just a login prompt.01:22
MarkB2Every time I log out.. or kill the server manually, it gets restarted and >poof< I've been 'X'ed again.01:22
MarkB2<oops>  Apologies.  Think I found it.  Sorry.01:24
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Mahpoul22how did you do?01:29
Mahpoul22@MarkB201:29
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olympionexI'm having trouble running snap try with snap/snapd vs 2.21 on 16.04.  The confinement is specified as classic and when I run snap try --classic or snap try --devmode, I still get the error that it requires consent to use classic confinement01:32
olympionexI searched to see if this was a bug, but I didn't see it if it is01:33
Richard_CavellHi everyone.  I am having to seriously consider installing 32-bit instead of 64-bit Ubuntu because my EFI is 32 bit.  Do I lose a lot by doing that?  (I have 3 gigs of RAM)01:33
cfhowlettyour efi is 32 bit?!  did know that was even possible01:34
Richard_Cavell2006 iMac01:34
olympionexsorry, i was in wrong channel01:34
cfhowlettRichard_Cavell, strongly suggest your consult the mac specific resources.   /msg ubottu mac01:35
Bashing-omolympionex: #snappy ??01:36
olympionexBashing-om: yes, for some reason my /join didn't work and I didn't realize i was just in default channel01:36
Bashing-omolympionex: :) No harm no foul .01:37
jayjomy machine boots straight into gnu grub, how do I repair from here? ls lists drives01:38
jayjoThe possible commands do not look helpful. Is this drive corrupted? how did that happen?01:40
doublejanejayjo: do ur bios support EFI Shell?01:41
jayjoI can try to boot into it01:41
doublejaneyep then find out the ubuntu EFI file and see if it can boot successfuly01:42
jayjoIt appears it cannot01:43
jayjojust a blinking cursor01:43
doublejanewhats the first order of boot?01:44
doublejane"hard drive" or "EFI:hard drive"01:45
jayjoWhen I go to the boot menu it says mac osx with clover, but that's installed on a second harddrive, I've been using the primary drive with ubuntu for over a year with no real issues as long as I could access the terminal01:46
disican anyone explain this? https://gist.github.com/dmtucker/8d782dafbd1c80fd0f1b6d1cbe475b9701:46
cfhowlettdisi, yes.  it's a series of non-contextual terminal output01:47
disicfhowlett: it is an SSCCE of differing POSIX behavior between bash and sh...01:48
doublejanejayjo: what happens if u unplug the mac drive?01:48
cfhowlettdisi, I suspect the #bash channel would know more01:48
jayjoi haven't tried that yet. Right now if I boot with the default drive it goes straight to "GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.7" - what is the reason of booting here?01:51
doublejanethe bios determines the boot into GNU...01:52
MisterExcuse me01:56
MisterJust wondering if k1l was still here or if anyone else could give me some help.01:56
Bashing-omMister: I might be of some help; If I were aware of the issue . I am free :)02:00
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MisterThank you very much Bashing. I recently bought and old Lenovo PC with Linux installed.02:05
MisterAnd I wish to upgrade from 32 to 62 bit.02:05
Misterand i believe I've downloaded the file, but now I need to do something with the usb stick02:06
MisterAnd formatting or burning, or something of the like, and I've completely forgotten how to do that.02:06
cfhowlettMister, first you need to check if your old pc is even 64 bit compatible02:07
MisterYeah, we checked that.02:07
doublejaneMister: wew that should be a very old PC, no need to have 64 bit unless the memory exceed 4GB02:07
MisterIt's 64 bit compatible. The gentleman I spoke to after I showed him the specs said he had no idea why the person before me installed 32 bit.02:08
MisterBecause I can't run steam off of my 32 bit apparently.02:08
MisterBut I've downloaded Ubuntu02:09
MisterThe new one, and I have a usb drive, I just don't know what to do next.02:09
jnewt_i can't click links in hexchat or right click->open in browser.  any idea why?  works fine on windows.02:10
cfhowlettMister, read the tutorial         /msg ubottu usb02:11
cfhowlettjnewt_, also how much ram do you have?02:12
MisterWhere can I find the tutorial?02:14
cfhowlettMister, /msg ubottu usb           in your irc02:14
CountryfiedLinuxGood evening.02:16
CountryfiedLinuxIs trim enabled automatically or do I need to set it up myself?02:16
CountryfiedLinuxI see this in the directory. #!/bin/sh02:17
CountryfiedLinux# trim all mounted file systems which support it02:17
cfhowlettCountryfiedLinux, more info via irc bot:         /msg ubottu trim02:17
CountryfiedLinuxAm I good to go or do I need to add something?02:17
cfhowlettdepends on your ubuntu version02:17
CountryfiedLinuxcfhowlett, 16.1002:17
cfhowlettenabled by default02:17
CountryfiedLinuxcfhowlett, Oh ok. Same for Xubuntu 16.10?02:18
cfhowlettyes02:18
CountryfiedLinuxok thanks02:18
mrwni have a Go web app, and i run on EC2 ubuntu instance, i just run with to go command, but it keep turned off,  is there like a best practice for running apps like this or servers on production instances?02:18
cfhowletthappy2help!02:18
msk-mexo?02:18
cfhowlettmight be best to ask #ubuntu-server mrwn02:19
mrwnok thanks02:19
wedgieor a go channel02:19
gnomethrowerStupid question - what happens if you completely delete the root user?02:29
gnomethrowerIs it even possible?02:29
cfhowlettnothing but bad things.  don't02:29
gnomethrowercfhowlett: I'm asking out of curiosity... I would obviously never do it on a machine I cared about02:30
gnomethrowerit seems like the most impressive way to hose a system02:30
cfhowlettgnomethrower, there's a YT video and a blog somewhere.  it ain't pretty and it ain't recoverable02:30
cfhowlettgnomethrower, there's a YT video and a blog somewhere.  it ain't pretty and it ain't recoverable02:31
gnomethrowerah, excellent02:31
gnomethrowerI've been looking for a blog/video with no success02:31
gnomethrowercfhowlett: wait, do you mean delete the file root?02:32
gnomethrowerI mean the actual root user02:32
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cfhowlettgnomethrower, delete root ubuntu           first hit on YT02:33
gnomethrowercfhowlett: I get "How to remove Password in Ubuntu"02:33
gnomethrower#3 is "Deleting the root directory ubuntu"02:33
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MisterI'm unfortunately still struggling to download rufus02:36
MisterAll I really want to do is play Spore.02:36
rypervenchegnomethrower: I think you could get the root user back pretty easily.02:41
gnomethrowerrypervenche: That's my feeling too02:41
gnomethrowerI kinda want to destroy a Ubuntu VM and then try to recover it02:42
gnomethrowerat the very least it's an interesting War Games exercise for my org02:42
rypervenchegnomethrower: Go for it. Experience is the best teacher.02:42
cfhowlettand document it!02:42
rypervenchegnomethrower: I can't really think of anything that would get ruined by it. You'd just need to recreate the user with uid 0 and gid 0. Aside from that and creating its group, I don't know that anything else would need changing.02:43
sysadminhi02:43
sysadmini need to download vsphereclient.vmware.com/vsphereclient/2/3/0/6/3/5/6/VMware-viclient-all-5.1.0-2306356.exe02:43
rypervencheSo really only three files would be affected. /etc/passwd, /etc/group, and /etc/shadow02:43
sysadminbut i am limited02:43
sysadmincan someone put it in another palace for me please?02:44
rypervenchegnomethrower: Are you new to Linux?02:45
sysadmincan someone help?02:45
excelsioraok, how do I remove emacs 24 for good?02:45
excelsiorait keeps managing to reinstall itself02:45
sysadminhey guys02:46
rypervencheexcelsiora: Are you purging it?02:46
sysadminvsphereclient.vmware.com/vsphereclient/2/3/0/6/3/5/6/VMware-viclient-all-5.1.0-2306356.exe02:46
excelsioraafter I run .configure (opts), make, sudo checkinstall - it manages to replace the new one I build daily.02:46
cfhowlettsysadmin, you need to ask vmware for product support.  not an ubuntu product or issue.02:46
cfhowlettsysadmin, you need to ask vmware for product support.  not an ubuntu product or issue.02:46
sysadmincfhowlett, i need to help02:46
excelsiorarypervenche: how can I purge it for good/02:47
excelsiora?02:47
cfhowlettsysadmin, asked and answered02:47
rypervencheexcelsiora: How are you removing it currently?02:47
excelsiorasudo apt-get remove emacssomethingorother02:47
sysadminokay02:47
sysadminit is human right02:48
rypervencheexcelsiora: Try using "purge" instead of "remove", but we should look into how it's getting installed again.02:48
excelsiorarypervenche: thanks, seemed to work02:50
excelsioradid it for emacs24, it said it did for emacs24*02:50
rypervencheYep yep.02:50
excelsioraran configure... without the args... doh02:50
excelsiorabut it seemed to report the correct config anyways02:52
excelsiorawhy would it do that?02:52
excelsioradid emacs change it?02:52
excelsioraI just did a git pull...02:53
rypervencheexcelsiora: You're installing emacs from source?02:57
excelsiorarypervenche: yes - so if it comes back, I'll try a purge of emacs* and then just rebuild and reinstall03:01
gnomethrowerrypervenche: Nope, not new - been using Ubuntu since 6.06 :)03:01
excelsiorado I need to run something after git pull to get to head?03:01
gnomethrowersorry, been AFK wrangling SaltStack states :D03:01
excelsiorarypervenche: I've had a devil of a time getting the dependencies right, and I'm sure I still need to add more things to my configure flags.03:03
rypervenchegnomethrower: That answers that question, lol.03:03
rypervencheexcelsiora: Why do you need it from source?03:03
vivimarvic503:03
doublejaneexcelsiora: using ldd <file> may help resolve the dependency03:04
vivihello03:04
gnomethrowerrypervenche: :)03:05
gnomethrowerhopefully in a good way!03:05
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excelsiorarypervenche: I have emacs26 - why not?03:08
excelsiora:P03:08
excelsiorabesides - teach a man to fish, amiright?03:09
rctihi njbjb03:30
rctihow to update in ubuntu mate03:30
rcti??03:30
PipeItToDevNullsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:35
wxboklk03:41
rcticant update the version in ubuntu mate??!03:42
PipeItToDevNullrcti: explain03:43
PipeItToDevNullUpdate what? The whole system?03:43
rcti"apt-get update" command in not working!03:44
zack_ive got a old nvidia 2600 that ive installed and found a driver for but upon boot the card displays the bios splash but doesnt show anything after and i cant go into tty03:44
PipeItToDevNullrcti: What is the output03:44
rctiGet:1 http://security.ubuntu.com vivid-security InRelease [2,855 B]03:44
rctiGet:2 http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid InRelease [2,861 B]03:44
rctiGet:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease [2,847 B]03:44
rctiGet:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates InRelease [2,855 B]03:44
rcti86% [3 InRelease gpgv 2,847 B] [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.Splitting up /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_vivid_Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease03:44
rctiE: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)03:44
PipeItToDevNullhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/367748/gpg-error-while-downloading-software-clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-got-nodata03:45
PipeItToDevNullAre you using a proy?03:46
PipeItToDevNullproxy*03:46
lucas-argguys after "trying" nvidia drivers 367 (still tearing with 950m optimus) i decided to uninstall them and put nouveau.modeset=0 in kernel options and use intel gpu instead, but had problems rebooting or shutting down the system tried installing watchdog but still have problems, reboot takes for ever... and some times it doesnt reboot at all...03:46
rctino nothing.03:46
PipeItToDevNullrcti: Is this a fresh install?03:46
rctijust 1-2 weeks old.03:47
rctikernel version is : 3.19.0-15-generic03:47
lucas-arghad same problems with 16.10 and 16.0503:48
lucas-arg0403:48
lucas-argany ideas on whats wrong?03:48
PipeItToDevNullrcti: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224411203:49
PipeItToDevNullThe server may be down, try changing it03:49
Biosphere_50i'm running 16.04 now nad have it three systems03:49
rctilet me try\03:49
Biosphere_50on* three systems whats going on lucas-arg03:49
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Biosphere_50lucas-arg: whats going on with your ubuntu 16.10/16.04 whats the problem03:50
Biosphere_50I may be able to help may now03:51
Biosphere_50not*03:51
rctithank you03:51
rctiit's not helping..03:52
PipeItToDevNullI am unsure rcti03:53
lucas-argBiosphere_50, well... after installing nvidia 367 drivers, i got tearing... no matter what i try that bug is there03:53
rctiok.. thank you for help PipeItToDevNull03:53
Biosphere_50I have the same problem but when I use the xorg drivers I have less tearing03:53
Biosphere_50did you try turning on v-sync03:54
rctiwhere are u frm? PIpe03:54
Biosphere_50also I believe thers a tear-free option in the nvidia control panel but that may be amd cuz I have both03:54
Biosphere_50tearing while playing gamiong or video03:54
Biosphere_50let me see what version I have on03:55
Biosphere_50i'm using package nvidia-367 367.5703:55
Biosphere_50lucas-arg: during gameplay or video playback03:57
lucas-argBiosphere_50, thats the same one i have, and yes during video gameplay and even moving windows arround if you movem quickly you can see the teraing in the borders of the windows03:57
yourname1reload03:57
Biosphere_50lucas-arg: what frontend gui are you using gnome, i3, lxde, kde403:58
lucas-argits so frustrating03:58
lucas-arggnome03:58
Biosphere_50I hear that dude03:58
Biosphere_50ok03:58
Biosphere_50do you have visual effects 3d enabled03:58
lucas-argi got them in kde x gnome wayland you name it03:58
Biosphere_50so all desktops are tearing03:59
rcticant update ubuntu mate03:59
lucas-argtried xfce without any effect03:59
Biosphere_50rcti: whats your error?03:59
lucas-argyes03:59
Biosphere_50whats your video card03:59
Biosphere_50ram03:59
rctiE: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)03:59
rcti 03:59
lucas-argnvidia gtx 950m intel 52003:59
Biosphere_50950m04:00
Biosphere_50should be good04:00
Biosphere_50weird04:00
Biosphere_50did you do an update04:00
Biosphere_50do you have a xorg.conf file?04:00
lucas-argi tell you fresh install nouveau dont let me even boot04:00
rctithats the thing not working.04:00
lucas-argnope04:00
lucas-argno xorg04:00
lucas-argthats why i added nouveau.modeset=0 in kernel and then installed nvidia drivers04:01
rctianything ?? @Biosphere_5004:02
Biosphere_50rcti: if you have gui access open your software sources and check your settings turn off04:02
rctidone it.04:02
Biosphere_50only use main universe restricted and check your server your connecting to change it to main server04:02
Biosphere_50rcti: whats the download from ?04:03
Biosphere_50lucas-arg: did you use the console installer or additional drivers progra04:03
Biosphere_50lucas-arg: do you have the nouveau-modeset=0 set still on kernal command?04:04
lucas-argyeah04:05
lucas-argi do04:05
lucas-argbut that shouldnt be a problem since its supposed to be using nvidia not nouveau04:05
Biosphere_50but your forcing the old driver04:05
Biosphere_50nouveau isn't the new driver04:05
Biosphere_50nvdia-367 is04:05
lucas-argi know04:06
lucas-argnouveau.modeset=0 mens its not loaded04:06
lucas-argmeans04:06
Biosphere_50I have similar hardward but i'm not using kernal commands to load the driver04:07
lucas-argso after installing nvidia nvidia is taking place04:07
Biosphere_50i have xorg.conf04:07
Biosphere_50do you have a xorg.conf04:07
lucas-argnope i dont thing i need one04:07
lucas-argthink04:07
Biosphere_50i would try one04:08
Biosphere_50if it isn't working04:08
Biosphere_50I have a sample04:08
Biosphere_50how did you install the driver04:08
lucas-argsudo apt install nvidia-36704:09
Biosphere_50ah04:09
Biosphere_50ok I used additional drivers04:09
rcti_dfg04:09
lucas-argits same thing04:09
rctihii04:09
rcti_fuck oof04:09
rctibc04:10
Biosphere_50whats does you additional drivers show04:10
Biosphere_50enabled nvidia-36704:10
rctiyou are sleep now04:10
lucas-argthey are enabled after that command04:10
lucas-argit says using nvidia blablabla04:10
rctilooooooodo04:10
Biosphere_50ok try a xorg.conf file04:11
rctihi baba04:12
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Guest61591i can't seem to get my optical drive to work. I've installed libdvd-pkg and did the dpkg-reconfigure. the "Disks" utility states there is no media in the drive. lsblk prints "sr0 11:0 1 1024M  0 rom".04:18
Biosphere_50Guest61591: whats os you using04:38
Biosphere_50Guest61591: distro version all the good stuff04:38
DiJuAnyone here experienced with xorg, Nvidia and Intel, and multiple monitors04:42
lucas-argDiJu, cant get them to work even with one monitor04:43
lucas-argDiJu, good luck04:43
DiJuLol, thanks04:43
DiJuI have my Nvidia card driving 2 of 3 monitors and they work04:43
DiJuthe 3rd, is plugged into my mobo/iGpu/intel04:43
DiJuand i cannot get it to display the desktop04:44
DiJui've tried xrandr04:44
lucas-argi dont even know why in the world i bought a laptop with nvidia chip i hate it04:44
DiJuAre you running the latest Nvidia driver?04:44
DiJui think they have optimus support now04:44
lucas-arg367 375 378 you name it04:44
DiJuhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus04:45
DiJuu read this?04:45
lucas-argneeeehh04:45
lucas-argnope04:45
lucas-arglet me see04:45
lucas-argDiJu, i dont find watch you say04:47
DiJulook for the heading Using nvidia04:48
DiJuoh hmm04:49
DiJuyeah i was thinking that maaaaaybe your external monitor was trying to use the intel04:49
DiJuinstead of the nvidia in your laptop04:49
blackbeard21Hey, I am trying to use imwheel to increase the scroll speed and enable horizontal scrolling but the config file doesn't seem to be having any impact. Here is the .imwheelrc file - http://pastebin.com/FQUAXFhe. Maybe any of you can suggest why it isn't working04:50
guzzlefryIs it possible to trigger the auto-mount, that occurs whenever I plug a drive into the computer, without actually unplugging it? Everything seems to unmount whenever I restart.05:05
Jordan_Uguzzlefry: The moment you try to access a volume via the file manager (nautilus) it will mount.05:06
guzzlefryoh brilliant, thank you05:07
Biosphere_50blackbeard21: try increasing the wheel speed with xinput instead of imwheelrc05:12
Diju2If there are any NVIDA/INTEL and XORG w/ Multiple Monitor xperts pls msg me05:17
blackbeard21Biosphere_50, can horizontal scrolling be setup with xinupt too?05:24
blomstertjHello05:34
LoomaanaatiiSup05:42
bennyboyHi all,05:49
bennyboyI have a question05:49
bennyboyCould you take a quantum computer and some how train it to program a computer? Seeing how the architecture of a quantum computer is fundamentally different to a typical binary computer is you could theoretically set up a neural net work wherein the task you want programmed is the carrot and the quantum computer finds the most efficient sequence of ones and zeros to complete the task. You could potentially design a test circuit to em05:49
cfhowlettwrong channel to ask bennyboy.   perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic but not here.05:49
bennyboyok05:50
PipeItToDevNullbennyboy: This may be of interest to you https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/07/18/darpa-to-stage-an-ai-hacking-tournament-at-def-conblack-hat/05:52
bennyboythanks05:54
leyonhelp06:00
alkisgleyon, here: https://pixabay.com/p-153094/?no_redirect06:01
cfhowlettleyon, here's a more effective way to ask for help:  https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf06:02
leyonmy wifi is slow ;( i tried 12.04,14.04, and now 16.04.06:03
leyonmy chipset is rtl818706:03
leyoni tried everything on the internet. maybe has to do with driver :/06:04
blackbeard21xinput also didn't help in increasing the scrolling speed. Someone has any other suggestion to increase the scrolling speed?06:06
JoralI just installed 14.04.5 and I get an error when trying to install fglrx-updates06:07
blackbeard21What error do you get?06:22
JoralSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  unity-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: libcheese7 (>=06:23
Joral 3.0.1) but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.06:23
Danny128hello all06:24
xanguaJoral: run sudo apt-get update, try again06:25
Joralxangua, I have three times :(06:25
Joralalso in additional drivers if I choose the option for fglrx-updates and click save changes it acts likes it changing then just flashes and puts the selection button back on the ubuntu default06:26
lotuspsychjeJoral: have you added ppa's of any kind?06:27
alkisgJoral: isn't unity-control-center already installed?06:27
alkisgAre you not using ubuntu?06:27
Joralhavn't done anything but 1) install the system 2) update the system and 3) attempt to install fglrx06:27
cfhowlettJoral, in a terminal:    inxi -F | pastebinit06:28
Joralwell I at least know that apt works as I just installed inxi and pastebinit, stand by for me to run the command again06:29
alkisgJoral, what's the output of `apt policy unity-control-center`?06:29
Joralhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23873479/06:29
cfhowlettJoral, suggest you upgrade all available packages: sudo apt full-upgrade06:31
Joral apt policy unity-control-center E: Invalid operation policy06:31
alkisgapt-cache policy unity-control-center, then06:31
Joralfull update did not solve it but here is the policy infohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23873485/06:32
omeniussomeone here using tmux with tmux-rescurrent (and maybe even continuum). Just installed plugins and made .tmux.conf file, but rescurrent won't work even remotely06:33
JoralI meant full-upgrade (thats what I did just not what I said06:33
alkisgand the output of: apt-cache policy  libcheese-gtk23 ?06:33
omeniusdoing hotkey+ctrl+s and then hotkey+ctrl+r just echos "Tmux resurrect file not found!", so I't won't even work without reboot06:34
Joralhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23873488/06:34
alkisg!info libcheese-gtk23 trusty06:36
ubottulibcheese-gtk23 (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - widgets. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10.2-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 24 kB, installed size 312 kB06:36
Joralwhy is fglrx pulling it then?06:36
alkisgJoral: your initial message about fglrx dependencies and error messages was cut off, can you post that one to pastebin too?06:37
alkisg"the following packages have unmet dependencies:  unity-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed " etc etc06:37
alkisgBecause your libcheese-gtk23 is already >= 3.4.0, so that doesn't make sense...06:38
Joralhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23873497/06:38
alkisgJoral: what is your version of libcheese7? dpkg -l libcheese706:39
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Joral3.10.206:39
alkisgDoes that start with "ii" in front? I.e. properly installed?06:39
Joralyes it says ii libchese7...06:40
alkisgThat doesn't make sense then...06:40
alkisgHrm. Can you try with aptitude instead?06:40
Joralwhy is fglrx "depending" on a web cam library at all?06:40
alkisgsudo apt-get install aptitude, then sudo aptitude install fglrx06:40
alkisgIt doesn't, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/fglrx06:41
Joralok, then why does apt think it does lol06:41
Joralits wanting to completely remove xserver and all associated dependencies, which means that 14.04 has already switched to xorg-server 1.18 hasn't it?06:45
alkisgNo, it's still on 1.1506:46
Joralthen why does aptitude think that a driver conflicts with literally every xorg package?06:47
alkisgWhat's the output of this? egrep -rv '^#|^#' /etc/apt/sources.list*06:47
alkisgYou may have weird repositories enabled...06:47
Joralhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23873521/06:48
Jorali forgot I installed google chrome, that wouldn't be the issue would it?06:49
alkisgNah... it looks fine... strange...06:49
alkisgAnd apt-get dist-upgrade, or apt-get install -f, say that everything is ok and up to date?06:50
Joraldist-upgrade would put be on 16.04 which is amdgpu instead of fglrx, thats why I just installed this one tonight06:51
alkisgNo, dist-upgrade means normal update06:51
alkisgIt's not "do-release-upgrade"06:51
Joraloh, ok let me try it then06:51
alkisgIt's not related to 16.04 at all06:51
Joraldist-upgrade says nothing to do06:52
Joralits like something is intentionally blocking fglrx06:52
Joralwell its 1 am for me so Ill have to fight with it tomorrow06:58
Joralthanks for trying06:58
zeroushi :)07:13
KotileijonaHey07:14
zerousI am new to linux in general. I was reading the source of echo.c in coreutils and came across bindtextdomain(). I have googled about it and understood that it sets the base directory for a given message domain. But I don't understand what a message domain is and why it exists in the first place. ?07:16
zerouss/echo.c/echo07:16
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prakhar489if anyone sees my message,please respond.07:32
bazhangprakhar489, whats the ubuntu support issue07:33
prakhar489bazhang,my message sometimes didin't get delivered sometimes.07:34
stevenmI think hell just froze over... there is a microsoft ubuntu repository :S07:36
aviekshaha whaat07:38
stevenmavieks, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/linux/sql-server-linux-setup-tools#ubuntu07:38
stevenmpackages.microsoft.com07:38
jarnosNetwork manager tells "device not ready" for Wifi in (Xubuntu) Xenial. Restarting network manager does not work.07:38
stevenmit contains powershell, mssql-tools and msssql-server (and a few odbc stuff)07:39
stevenmyou'd think skype would go in there too eventually07:39
avieksah07:40
tekisuiha07:40
aviekssql makes sense in a way07:40
tekisuihow i make [download.01.org] trusted ???07:41
tekisuimake it a source ?07:41
tekisuiis now binair07:42
tekisuiseems to work07:45
tekisuiwhole system might go black soon :D07:45
pendicolI'm connected to a server via SSH; How can I force the package manager to handle its traffic through that route?07:48
pendicolssh as a proxy07:48
pendicolfor web browsers it can be done simply by setting proxy on 127.0.0.1:<port> and running ssh with 'ssh -D <port> ...'07:49
pendicolbut what about 'aot'?07:49
pendicolapt*07:49
tekisuiamai07:49
tekisuiok am still alive07:49
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pendicolin other words, tunneling traffic of 'apt' over the ssh connection is possible?07:50
tekisuii dunno07:51
tekisuiam happy i got sound with linux07:51
tekisuidaswidanye !07:51
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distributedwhat does this cryptic-looking command do?08:00
distributed:(){ :|: & };:08:00
alkisgdistributed: it defines a function that spawns itself a lot of times and can be used for bombing08:01
distributedbombing?08:01
distributedlike your computer blows up just by running a command?08:01
alkisgdistributed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb08:02
distributedsounds dangerous08:02
alkisgNo, it just wastes all the cpu so that your pc needs a reset08:02
distributedo.k.08:02
distributedthen i should run this scriptomatically at boot on my mom's computer?08:02
foddoNo.08:03
distributedwhy not?08:03
distributedwont it then reset it when it boots or something?08:03
bazhanglets get back to ubuntu support please08:04
M4dH4TT3rohh btw ikonia was just going to let you know i know what that display issue the other day was now, apparently nvidia drivers need to be explicitly defined in xorg.conf, besides that the only issue i still have with it is a known bug with uefi08:10
_jyo_hello, I am looking for some help to change the power settings on a ubuntu 16.10 install that will not boot08:16
_jyo_Would appreciate some help08:16
cotinuse Ubuntu 16.04 LTS _jyo08:17
cotin16.10 are for "Ubuntu devs"08:17
_jyo_cotin, I need to retrioeve some data from this instal, I have an exam early next week08:17
_jyo_Intend to return to 16.04, but would prefer to do it after the exam I need the computer for a presentation.08:18
cotinWell you could install 16.04 alongside 16.10 and you would be able to get any files you need.08:18
_jyo_I have tried to access the disk from a live usb, but it is encrypted08:19
cotinouch08:19
cotinthat is another problem yes.08:19
_jyo_I just need  to change the power settings from the usb I think08:19
cotinhave you tried to start ubuntu 16.10 in recovery?08:19
_jyo_I have the key08:19
cotinthats good.08:19
_jyo_it does the same when root is login08:20
_jyo_the ttys do the same to, this is caused by ACPI power settins change before last shut down08:20
cotinbefore ubuntu boots try to hit F8 a couple of times and use the down arrow to select Ubuntu Recovery08:20
alkisg_jyo_: and changing the power settings will make it boot?!08:20
cotinWell start in recovery then!08:21
_jyo_cotin, it wont08:21
cotinit wont start at all?08:21
_jyo_I can access the system files from a live usb, that was my thought at the moment08:21
alkisg_jyo_: put "noacpi" in the cmdline, if you think it's an apci issue, but I doubt it08:21
_jyo_alkisg, at which point?08:22
alkisgYou press "e" in grub, and write it next to "quiet splash", and then press f1008:22
_jyo_cotin, it hangs at the command line the last line output is :[ ok ] Stopped User Manager for UID 1000.08:22
_jyo_[ ok ] Removed slice User Slice of <username>.08:22
_jyo_alkisg, I was also looking at trying to stop the request for the password on awaking from suspend. It is to buggy for a presentation :/08:24
alkisgYou can do that once it boots08:24
_jyo_No I am really inn the @#$*08:24
_jyo_I think is is a bug in the GNOME settings that have tied a knot in the login process08:25
alkisggnome does not load until after login08:26
alkisgSo it can't be gnome settings prohibiting the pc from reaching the login screen08:26
OlofLhttps://gist.github.com/sliddjur/47a50721bcde971ca2aab0d9cc1a1df9 how can I solve this? Can I just delete images in boot?08:26
_jyo_alkisg, but the settings were changed from GNOME08:26
alkisgThen that's not what caused the issue08:26
_jyo_I think that it is a sill loop, which is making it block.08:26
_jyo_silly08:26
_jyo_such as disableing the need for a password request at login, when it has to have ome to decrypt, I am speculation08:27
kernellohello everyone, what is the extension of text files?08:27
EriC^^kernello: it can be anything, extensions dont mean anything in linux08:27
_jyo_I had turned off and then on again the password settings in the personal account settings.08:28
EriC^^usually they're just extensionless or .txt, like README08:28
kernelloEriC^^ I need to enter the file extension in the command, that's why I need an extension.08:30
_jyo_alkisg, is there a way to copy the encrypted blob that is the home folder? And to open with the correct software from another machine?08:31
_jyo_I will just reinstall if I have the data08:31
EriC^^kernello: if it's an output file use whatever you want08:31
EriC^^_jyo_: you can use "encryptfs-recover-private" to open the home dir08:32
EriC^^* "ecryptfs-recover-private"08:32
kernelloEriC^^, ok, thank you1 :)08:33
kernellothank you!*08:33
EriC^^np08:33
cotin_jyo: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/08:34
cotinIt says how to recover from LiveUSB08:34
_jyo_I have tried, I will look at this again08:35
kernelloEriC^^, it worked even without adding any extension at all :)08:37
kernelloas you said08:37
EriC^^kernello: great :)08:38
_jyo_cotin, EriC^^, that command fails ...08:41
EriC^^_jyo_: did you mount the partition that has the home dir?08:41
_jyo_EriC^^, it is mounted yes, I can see the folder and read the readme next to the folder08:42
EriC^^_jyo_: try sudo ecryptfs-recovery-private08:44
EriC^^*recovery08:44
EriC^^*recover08:44
_jyo_Last time I use any software that I do not understand fully ... :/08:44
_jyo_ok08:44
cotinGood luck then.08:44
_jyo_find, filesystem loop detected08:46
_jyo_EriC^^, '/sys/kernel/debug' is part of the same file system loop as '/sys/kernel/debug'08:47
EriC^^_jyo_: try pointing it to the .Private dir08:48
EriC^^sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/home/path/to/.Private08:48
_jyo_cotin, :) I am learning c right now... the data is a project about php, javascript and ajax. all of which I f'n hate. its a sign from above I tell you, return to unix roots :)08:48
_jyo_EriC^^, please shoot me, to put me out of my misery now .... :) that looks more promesing08:49
_jyo_EriC^^, YES, it is asking for my hash08:50
_jyo_Sucess!08:51
_jyo_Success even, well I am not out of the forrest just yet, as I have to reinstall when I should be writing, but this is deffinatly in the right direction.08:52
_jyo_EriC^^, I hope I did not speek to soon. I have been given a mount point, how to read this?08:54
EriC^^_jyo_: as usual, copy the files off their to another place and they'll stay decrypted08:54
_jyo_EriC^^, I hope I did not speek to soon. I have been given a mount point, how to read this?/08:55
_jyo_ops08:55
cotinor sudo nautilus is thats easier.08:55
cotinif*08:55
_jyo_EriC^^, I can't open it though, is that normal?08:56
EriC^^_jyo_: open it how?08:56
EriC^^yeah do what cotin said08:56
_jyo_oh does it need to be mounted?08:57
_jyo_I am trying to acces via the folders and the mouint point address08:58
koen_hi i have a networking /dns issue.i m not able to ping www.google.com08:58
koen_i setup ubuntu 16.04 in vm ware08:59
koen_could someone help me out08:59
ppfkoen_: are you able to ping 8.8.8.8?09:00
_jyo_ EriC^^, I have tried ecryptfs-mount-private, it says that it is not set up properly09:00
koen_ppf: connect: Network is unreachable09:01
koen_what is 8.8.8.8 btw?09:01
ppfgoogles dns server09:01
koen_aah ok k09:01
koen_ppf: how can i solve this09:01
ppfpaste ifconfig09:01
_jyo_going to try copying and then changing permissions, I guess that is all that is blocking now09:03
koen_ppf: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/90dd97dbf5021dfb5b800dc07a3e6a7809:04
ppfkoen_: is your cable plugged in?09:05
ppfwe're talking about ethernet, right?09:05
ppfwait, you said vm09:05
ppfis the vm configured to have an ethernet port?09:06
koen_ppf: no its in wifi09:06
koen_ppf: any solutions?09:08
TvL2386so koen_ you have ubuntu 16.04 in vmware on wifi?09:09
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koen_TvL2386: yes exactly09:10
TvL2386so I suppose your vmware host is on wifi and not the VM itself09:11
_jyo_EriC^^, I have no idea what to do next, uncertain at to whether the data is copyable or not. Your advice would be most welcome09:12
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EriC^^_jyo_: try opening the files09:12
fedecupegood evening, I'm looking for help in installing a displaylink driver with newer evdi module. Anyone cares to help?09:12
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TvL2386koen_, if you type "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr show", do you see any network interfaces except lo (loopback)09:12
EriC^^_jyo_: sudo nautilus /path/to/mountpoint09:13
_jyo_EriC^^, I am unabe to09:13
koen_TvL2386: both are in wifi09:13
TvL2386koen_, but the VM itself won't have a wifi card09:13
koen_TvL2386: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/55bc8d905ff42919f77303d27f031ba809:14
koen_see internet is working fine in the laptop09:14
koen_but the host inside VMware is not having networking09:14
_jyo_EriC^^, there is a .desktop file and a readme09:15
_jyo_the dot desktop takes me to the home folder where the encrepter user folder is, but I can still not access it09:15
TvL2386koen_, mkay. This vignesh@ubuntu is your laptop running VMWare and the h@ubuntu is the Virtual Machine?09:15
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TvL2386koen_, what does "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr show" inside the VM say?09:16
EriC^^_jyo_: what mountpoint did it give you?09:16
koen_TvL2386: that h@ubuntu was a typo09:17
koen_TvL2386: what i pasted was the result of iconfig and ip addr show inside vm09:17
TvL2386so you paste the gist and say: "see internet is working fine in the laptop" but the gist is inside the VM and not the laptop...09:18
_jyo_EriC^^, /tmp/encryptfs.GZApZUdS09:18
EriC^^_jyo_: looks decrypted09:18
EriC^^_jyo_: what does ls -l /tmp/.. show you?09:19
TvL2386it's not easy to follow koen_09:19
koen_TvL2386: i apologize for the confusion09:20
koen_i have a laptop,that has windows.on top of that i have vm ware which has ubuntu09:20
TvL2386koen_, no worries... also you must have done something to make that interface "ens33" come online, because it's not shown in your first gist where you typed "ifconfig"09:20
koen_so internet is working fine in windows,but inside vmware .i.e in linux its not working09:20
koen_aah yeah i tried to do something with network and sharing settings.. but it dint work also previously the vm networking setting had a NAT09:21
koen_network adapter previously was a NAT,now i chose Host-Only09:22
TvL2386yeah koen_ NAT is normally fine09:22
TvL2386telephone brb09:22
koen_sure09:22
rizonzanyone hosting a CentOS mirror on Ubuntu ?09:22
_jyo_EriC^^, it shows the .desktop file the README also .ecryptfs .Private09:23
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_jyo_The last two being links09:25
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kazim59Hi, I've bought a wifi usb adapter since my laptop's internal wifi isn't strong enough. Now how do I tell Ubuntu to use my USB one and not use the internal one? Thanks.09:26
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EriC^^_jyo_: that's not right09:28
hateballkazim59: iirc you should be able to disable an individual device in network-manager09:28
i-K1LL-FR0GSEriC^^: have you ever killed a frog?09:28
EriC^^_jyo_: try to decrypt again09:28
hateballkazim59: otherwise you can blocklist the module for the internal one in /etc/modprobe.d/09:28
i-K1LL-FR0GShateball: have you ever killed a frog?09:28
hateballkazim59: *or* you could use rfkill to disable it09:28
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kazim59hateball: it seems the USB one is not recognised yet either... how do I know?09:29
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hateballkazim59: could be you need additional drivers. my personal experience with realtek chipsets are not very great09:32
kazim59hateball: this is same vendor id and product id that I see in dmesg... and its Realtek it seems09:32
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hateballkazim59: this post might be relevant https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233548309:35
kazim59hateball: 16.04 LTS09:35
Rudemeisterhi09:38
_jyo_EriC^^, I seem to be missing a step here, it works when I decrypt and makes exactly the same links with a different mount point each time09:38
Rudemeisteranyone familiair with this error? "JRE libraries are missing or not compatible...."09:39
kazim59hateball: hmm, useful link, thanks.. trying to install a driver from a custom repo09:39
_jyo_If I run ecryptfs-mount-private, it says that Encrypted private directory is not set up properly09:40
hateballkazim59: like I said, my experience with realtek has lead me to never buy realtek again09:40
mada360Hello, I've just setup google-authenticator for a server SSH connection and am now unable to sign in as my codes are being rejected, even the back-up codes that shouldn't be time sensitive09:40
hateballkazim59: but hopefully you get it working!09:40
_jyo_Rudemeister, you do not have the corect java version09:40
kazim59hateball: how do we know? I bought TP-Link, and internally its Realtek09:40
_jyo_check the jre version Rudemeister09:41
Rudemeister_jyo_: ok tnx09:41
kazim59so is Realtek TP-Link's own company.. or something else09:41
Rudemeister_jyo_: must be too high of a version then09:41
mada360Realtek is the chip provider as far as I know09:42
hateballkazim59: googling model before making purchase etc, I am not saying it is easy09:42
hateballkazim59: but it saves headache when it works out of the box instead, so :)09:43
mada360Tp-link devices can come with Realtek or Atheros built in09:43
_jyo_Rudemeister, might simply be missing09:44
TvL2386koen_, I would enable a NAT network in your VMWARE and then configure your Ubuntu VM to use dhcp09:45
Rudemeister_jyo_: anyhting with tmp that might be causing it?09:46
TvL2386koen_, you still here btw?09:46
koen_Yes09:46
TvL2386:)09:46
koen_TvL2386: how to configure Ubuntu Vm to use dhcp09:46
koen_i chose the network adapter to be nat09:46
TvL2386koen_, that's good09:46
TvL2386according to your gist, your network interface in the VM is "ens33"09:46
EriC^^_jyo_: it should show the decrypted files in /tmp/ecryptfs..09:47
TvL2386did you manually configure that 192.168.10.128/24 ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/55bc8d905ff42919f77303d27f031ba809:47
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EriC^^_jyo_: can you show a pastebin of the whole process?09:47
EriC^^ls -l /home/$USER; sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/$USER/.Private ; ls -l /tmp/ecryptfs.whatever ?09:48
TvL2386koen_, you should have something like: "auto ens33" and on the next line "iface ens33 inet dhcp"09:48
koen_TvL2386: Where?09:48
TvL2386koen_, in /etc/network/interfaces09:49
koen_TvL2386: how long will u be here? m going for a meeting,can i ping u in a while09:49
TvL2386I'll be here for a few hours09:50
TvL2386not lurking 100% of the time though ;)09:50
zerousIf I wanted to compile coreutils without gcc optimization, what should I look into ?09:50
tomreynzerous: removing the -O ?09:51
zeroustomreyn: yeah, I know, but from which file. I am really new to linux and with automake.09:52
tomreynzerous: if you're new to linux then this is probably not a good project to start with.09:53
_jyo_It is searching for private encrypted directories, that gives the same 'loop' error09:53
_jyo_EriC^^, yes I can make a pastbin, what would you like to see?09:53
EriC^^ls -l /home/$USER; sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/$USER/.Private ; ls -l /tmp/ecryptfs.whatever ?09:53
_jyo_ok ...09:54
_jyo_for the $USER, do you require ubuntu (this is from usb) or that I navigate to the user with the encrypted file?09:55
EriC^^_jyo_: the latter09:55
_jyo_EriC^^, ok09:55
zeroustomreyn: I know. The truth is that I have been trying to chase the execution flow of echo (coreutils) by running it through gdb and I have come to see that a specific statement, line 38 precisely is getting executed even though the if clause that contains shouldn't allow it, as the condition should be false logically. So I wanted to see it run without optimization. Should I be looking into automake to09:57
tomreynzerous: the general approach would be to "apt-get source" it, cd into coreutils*, read INSTALL, add environment options as discussed there to modify the build as needed. build, and to dpkg-buildpackage it.09:57
zerousunderstand more about the building process ?09:57
tomreynzerous: if you'd like to understand how automake works, looking at how it works would seem like a good idea. but you don't strictly need to just to build the software.10:01
kazim59hateball: now it seems it has connected using both interfaces!!10:01
_jyo_EriC^^. Yes, that gives the full list of the directory as an output10:01
kazim59is it possible?10:01
tomreynzerous: line 38 of what, /bin/echo's source code ?10:01
zeroustomreyn: yes.10:01
tomreynzerous: be aware that many shells will just make you use their built-in implementations of basic commands such as echo. e.g. bash does.10:02
tomreynman bash -> SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS -> echo10:02
andywanganyone else?10:03
tomreynandywang: hmm? you just joined.10:03
_jyo_EriC^^, pastbin.com/RUp6C20W10:03
zeroustomreyn: oh, that might be the reason. :) I never thought about it.10:03
zerousrecompiling now.10:03
_jyo_EriC^^, sorry there is an error in the link10:04
hateballkazim59: sure, as I said you can use rfkill to block the internal device if you like10:04
hateballkazim59: perhaps your laptop even has a physical switch to disable ti10:04
_jyo_EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/RUp6C20W10:05
_jyo_Though I guess I can do a cp dir/*10:06
zeroustomreyn: nope that isn't the problem. I am running the right executable through gdb and it is doing the weird thing again.10:06
_jyo_EriC^^, yes I can, this looks very prommising10:07
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wayne23Hello, I'm setting a proxy via "gsettings set ... manual / host / port" . This fills the text input fields in "System Settings - Network - Network proxy" correctly. But I have to click on "Apply system wide" in the gui to fill /etc/environment with the correct proxy settings. Is there a way to do this via commandline?10:09
_jyo_EriC^^, thank you so very much; I have the files that I was working on.10:09
EriC^^_jyo_: if you want the hidden files as well use rsync to copy it10:10
EriC^^_jyo_: rsync -av /tmp/ecryptfs..../ /path/to/destination (trailing "/" after ecryptfs.... is important)10:11
_jyo_EriC^^, rsync is amazing, just clearing the space on my backup disk to copy over.10:12
kazim59hateball: no, laptop doesn't have a physical switch. But I found a way to disable it through writing in interfaces file.10:13
kazim59the realtek one is working now, and it looks like it has good signal strength10:13
zeroustomreyn: thanks a lot for your suggestion. I changed the CFLAGS parameter and disabled optimization. Now the code runs just fine through gdb. :)10:16
tomreynzerous: welcome.10:18
zeroustomreyn: Is it a bad practice to debug optimized code ?10:20
ppfno, just difficult10:21
zerousoh10:21
zerousAre there any special flags or parameters to be set in gdb for such cases.10:21
ppfno10:21
ppfgdb shows you how the program looks like10:21
zerousI am sorry, I haven't read gdb manual in full10:21
ppfif all meta information has been optimized out then there's not much you can see10:22
zerousoh I get it.10:22
zerousso basically we debug it, make sure the software works the way we want it to and finally optimize it.10:23
tomreynright, to debug, you create builds with debug symbols included10:24
ppfyes and no. Debug and Release programs behave differently. you have to test and subsequently debug both10:24
zerousSo I presume there are tools/procedures for debugging Release programs specifically ?10:25
ppfno, not really10:25
ppfyou can include debug symbols in an optimized build. that still might affect behaviour though10:27
zerousIs it a standard practice ?10:27
ppfother tricks are no omitting the framepointer. you still won't be able to inspect variables, really, but at least you get some decent stack traces10:27
ppfintel processors also have special stacktrace registers, you can those, too10:28
zerousoh10:29
ppfi don't think there really is a standard practise. if you've got an error that's specific to the release build only, then debugging is tricky10:29
tomreynthat's if you don't target x platform or x cpu vendor10:29
fedecupeGood evening, I'm looking for help in compiling a driver using a different module, can anyone lend a hand?10:30
ppfand there's also printf-debugging, of course :)10:30
tomreyn:))10:31
tomreynfedecupe: provide more context / be more specific. a linux kernel module IS a driver10:32
fedecupetomreyn sorry. I'm trying to install displaylink driver, but need to "repackage" (don't know if the word is correct) it with a different evdi moudle (because I'm using the kernel 4.9) Can I link something related?10:34
tomreynfedecupe: yuo can post links as long as it is about ubuntu support.10:36
fedecupetomreyn here we are (I post this because it has many relevant info, I don't want to flood the channel with pastebins XD ) http://askubuntu.com/questions/874558/cant-install-displaylink-driver-with-current-kernel10:36
BluesKajHiyas all10:37
tomreynfedecupe: is that a mainline kernel on 16.04.1?10:40
fedecupetomreyn sorry I don't get what you are asking. The kernel was installed through deb packages from kernel.ubuntu.com10:41
tomreynfedecupe: right, that's roughly what i meant. is the 16.04.1 kernel too old for you needs then?10:44
fedecupetomreyn it has a bug that makes my touchscreen and touchpad act weird/not work (on the 16.04 live they worked like a charm)10:45
angel-sweHi. My batter won't charge no more.. What shall I check?10:45
tomreynthen fix that first and then revisit this part10:45
hateballangel-swe: "upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0"10:47
hateballangel-swe: if your battery has 0% capacity for instance, that's not very great10:48
hateballangel-swe: I assume you have tried different chargers? It may well be the charger that is busted also10:48
backboxHello10:48
tomreynangel-swe: see whether there is an option to recalibrate it ("extend battery life") on your bios. check warranty, check china replacements. also,t hat's not an ubuntu question (unless it works on other OS and never worked on a given ubuntu version). maybe try asking in  ##hardware10:48
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Scoop7I think I am going to burst.... Who the hell uses Sunday as first day of the week? What's wrong with you??10:59
Scoop7and how do you change it to monday?10:59
royal_screwup21I have both python 2.7 and python 3.3 installed by default. However, my python 3.3 code is not successfully compiling when I write it in a .py file and then perform "python .py" on the terminal. How do I configure my shell so that python 3.3 successfully compiles?11:00
BluesKajbecause Sunday IS the first day of the week11:00
DeadKaptainhttp://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/03/week-starts-sunday/11:00
Scoop7I bursted out at a electronics e-shop for sending me the receive data which seemed to me faulty, then I realized later that it was ubuntus fault!!11:00
Scoop7date*11:01
BluesKajlppk at the calendar, Scoop711:01
BluesKajerr look11:01
Scoop7BluesKaj it doesn't give the option to change first day of the week....11:02
Scoop7Also lets me guess you're from US and not only you don't use the metric system, but you also have Sunday for 1st day??!!11:03
Scoop7let*11:03
BluesKajScoop7, nope, not US, in Canada and we use the meytic system, but it has nothing to do with which day is first11:05
BluesKajmetric even11:05
Scoop7I know but it seems so wrong.... Still need it changed!11:06
BluesKajScoop7, check your calandar11:06
zeroussee you guys later!11:08
angel-swehateball,  is this a terminal command? "upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0"11:09
unexpuserHello, could some one help me with increasing the size of my root partition. I tried to do this with fdisk but the size remains the same and most tutorials on the internet are referring to gparted which i cant install since I dont have space left for that.11:11
k1lunexpuser: you cant resize the root partition while using it.11:11
k1lunexpuser: so either you boot a usb/dvd live ubuntu and use gparted. or you remove stuff from your root partition like old kernels and headers11:12
unexpuserk1l: you can delete the partition and add it again with a different size.11:13
k1lunexpuser: that doesnt make sense11:14
unexpuserk1l: well thats what they say,.. anyway i think a fresh install would be a good idea11:15
k1lunexpuser: who says that?11:15
k1lunexpuser: you cant resize the / partition while you are running the OS. please boot up a usb or cd/dvd live system and use gparted from there.11:16
ppfyou can't resize _any_ partition while it's mounted11:16
unexpuserhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/492054/how-to-extend-my-root-partition11:16
ppfthat's using resize2fs, not fdisk11:18
hateballangel-swe: yes, you run that command in a terminal11:19
hateballangel-swe: it'll show your battery info11:19
BluesKajunexpuser, you can install gpartyed as a live media on cd or usb and usw that to partition your drive11:19
BluesKajgparted even11:19
hateballppf: not true, you can extend partitions just fine while mounted11:20
hateballshrinking is not a good idea however11:21
ppfhateball: with fdisk?11:22
cotinIm using webmin and php doesn't work with my vitrualmin it just outputs the php code. Tips anyone?11:22
veysiubuntuhi, i have a A4TECH optical mouse. it works on win but doesnt work on ubuntu 16.04 help pls??11:23
hateballppf: right, no. you can indeed grow the filesystem and not the partition :)11:23
hateballppf: I am just used to doing it all with LVM where that isnt a concern11:24
cotinIm using webmin and php doesn't work with my vitrualmin it just outputs the php code. Tips anyone?11:26
cotinWhere is tatertots when i need him?11:27
k1l!webmin | cotin11:28
ubottucotin: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.11:28
k1lcotin: did you enable the php module with apache2?11:28
cotinapache is enabled yes11:31
k1lno, php module in apache11:31
cotincan i check that from Virtualmin's config page?11:31
k1li guess you should ask the webmin guys then if you want to rely on that11:32
cotinIn virtual min it under PHP versions it says: Your system only has PHP version 7.0.13 installed, so selecting a different version for each directory is not possible.11:32
cotinSo it IS installed with my newly created vitrual server.11:33
liteon23hey there! Does someone know how to get commercial DVDs to play on 16.04 ?  ( I already installed libdvdcss2 & ran 'dpkg-reconfigure ...')11:36
PopziI have an ubuntu laptop and windows 10 laptop, is it possible to make the windows 10 laptop a display-only and plug it into ubuntu over hdmi?11:36
FreePenguinwhich one is better Ubuntu Mate or Xubuntu? In terms of features which has more?11:36
k1lcotin: without that webmin/virtualmin stuff. one installs the php packages on ubuntu, then a2enmod the php module. that works.11:37
k1lcotin: but since you rely on them, you better ask the webmin guys11:37
cotinWell everything worked just fine before i had to upgrade my BIOS. So i installed win7 for BIOS update and then installed 16.04.1 LTS again.11:39
tatertotscotin: hi11:42
jimmyarehy11:42
jimmyarE: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list11:42
jimmyari get when i run apt-get build-dep ?????/11:42
jimmyarWhat's wrong with it?11:42
jimmyarI didnt' edit sources.list at alll11:42
hateballjimmyar: well make sure you have deb-src entries for whatever you're trying to pull in11:44
jimmyarwhat?11:44
jimmyarsudo apt-get build-dep python-pandas11:45
jimmyarReading package lists... Done11:45
jimmyarE: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list11:45
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glachasthere is version.hpp in boost showing in /usr/local/include/boost/ but when I am running dpkg -S /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp it is giving dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp11:49
glachasWhy?11:49
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fedecupetomreyn so, do you have any idea?11:52
tomreynfedecupe: on what?11:54
glachashere is version.hpp in boost showing in /usr/local/include/boost/ but when I am running dpkg -S /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp it is giving dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp .12:00
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glachashere is version.hpp in boost showing in /usr/local/include/boost/ but when I am running dpkg -S /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp it is giving dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp12:11
glachasanyone ?12:11
k1lglachas: dpkg -S doesnt work with paths, does it?12:13
glachasit works because I tried it before12:14
k1lglachas: ah wait. it works with paths, but how did you install that boost?12:15
k1lglachas: because when you didnt install that with apt, apt could not know about it12:18
glachask1l: First I downloaded the boost_1_54_0,  then build it12:19
glachasI installed with the apt only12:19
glachask1l: ran this too, sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev12:20
k1l_glachas: that is not provided by that package on that location. that comes from your manual install12:24
glachask1l: but I build it.12:25
glachasso when I am running some program then it should automatically detect boost12:26
k1l_looks like that build was not that clean when it puts data somewhere and doesnt tell the package system about it.12:26
zambais it possible to define and user variables inside /etc/fstab?12:27
zambaand use*12:27
glachask1l: Yes! that may be the problem because it was showing some error of target failure but I was not able to understand why12:28
Guest44676hi12:36
Guest44676i am installing vcphere vmware client on ubuntu 14.04 during the installation i get this error12:37
Guest44676Failed to install the hcmon drive12:37
Guest44676i searched in google and i found12:38
Guest44676https://www.lumension.com/kb/1688.aspx12:38
Guest44676Enable HCMON by creating a EnableHCMON registry value (DWORD type, Data 1) in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SK\Parameters.12:38
Guest44676what does it mean ?12:39
Guest44676what should i do in ubuntu ?12:39
Guest44676Disable the “hcmon” blocking functionality by creating a registry value (DWORD type, Data 1) in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SK\Parameters with the name EnableHCMON.12:40
TvL2386Guest44676, those are instructions for Windows, not Linux12:41
Guest44676TvL2386, then what is solution in ubuntu?12:41
TvL2386I have no idea12:41
bumbarif i lock the system, will cron jobs still run?12:42
TvL2386Guest44676, maybe this: https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=213085012:42
Guest44676TvL2386, i cant access to vmware site because i live at iran12:43
Guest44676if there is a solution say me that12:43
TvL2386Guest44676, This issue occurs if the vSphere Client is installed on the same system the VMRC installation is failing on.12:44
Guest44676TvL2386, and what should i do now?12:45
TvL2386Guest44676, This is a known issue affecting the VMRC.12:45
TvL2386Guest44676, Currently, there is no resolution.12:45
TvL2386Guest44676, To work around this issue: Uninstall all vSphere Client instances.12:45
TvL2386Guest44676, Note: A reboot of the host OS system may be required.12:45
TvL2386Guest44676, Install the VMRC.12:45
TvL2386Guest44676, Re-install all vSphere Client instances.12:45
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TvL2386that's what the document says12:45
Guest44676okay12:46
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Guest44676i cant download vmrc12:47
Guest44676its in vmware site12:47
Guest44676i dont have access12:47
neurehi12:48
neurehow do i get latest clang (5?) for ubuntu 16.04 ?12:48
Guest44676TvL2386, can you download it for me please?12:49
Guest44676hey there?12:50
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neurehello13:11
neureanyone used clang 5?13:11
tarzeau_do you use gnustep? or swift?13:12
deus402so i'm trying to get this bash script to work, and i can't quite figure out what i'm doing wrong. i'm trying to read in all files matching a glob to an array, then modify the filenames and copy them to another array. i need to be able to deal with spaces in the filenames. i'm sure i just have my syntax wrong somewhere, but i haven't done and shell scripting in years. here is what i have with13:16
deus402output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874577/13:16
deus402and here is what i get if i remove the quotes around my glob: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874628/13:18
deus402so i must be close.13:18
sachinHello, I am thinking to use only console mode and start GUI only when I want to, I looked up for tutorial and found that they aren't working on 16.04. How can I boot into console mode only?13:19
Southern_Gentlemgoing to test that13:20
ioriasachin, sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target  (reverse with sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target)13:22
TvL2386deus402, what are you really trying to accomplish?13:22
TvL2386deus402, it may be me, but I don't see it13:23
deus402basically trying to add the word test before the file extension on each file in the example13:23
sachinthen I will be able to boot to console next time I reboot?13:23
deus402so blah.mp4 becomes blah.test.mp413:23
ioriayup13:23
k1l_sachin: yes, its like the kernel mode "text" before. (which doesnt work since systemd anymore)13:24
Southern_Gentlemsachin take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet13:24
TvL2386deus402, export file="song.mp4"13:26
TvL2386deus402, echo "${file%.*}.test.${file##*.}"13:26
TvL2386deus402, I would do something like: ls *.mp4 | while read file ; do mv "$file" "${file%.*}.test.${file##*.}" ; done13:29
TvL2386deus402, _UNTESTED_13:29
deus4021) never parse ls13:29
deus4022) i need to do a lot more stuff to the files besides rename them, hence i need a list of them in an array13:29
KristijanZic#bhyve13:30
TvL2386deus402, then I cannot help you... Whenever I need to do advanced stuff, I'm doing it in ruby or python and not bash13:31
deus402k, thanks for trying13:32
TvL2386yw!13:32
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deus402for the record, your command does give the output i want, but does not work with the arrays.13:32
TvL2386deus402, I haven't given up yet :)13:33
deus402heh, me either.13:33
deus402probably not to late to just ditch my bash script and learn python, heh.13:33
TvL2386I'm gonna get there13:34
TvL2386give me a few minutes :)13:34
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ioriadeus402, rename files ? like pip.mp4 to pip.test.mp4 ?13:36
deus402not rename the files, change the filename and store it in a different array.13:37
ioriadeus402, you can try this : rename 's/\.mp4$/.test.mp4/' *13:37
ioriadeus402, oh13:38
deus402it's the array that's messing me up.13:38
TvL2386deus402, https://gist.github.com/TvL2386/1384eaec3dd2bbeeb7dcbfbbd35f1d3413:39
TvL2386cheating though, because it's not in place like you tried13:39
TvL2386also changed the output looping13:39
k1l_deus402: for mode extensive bash scripting i would ask in #bash13:41
deus402roger.13:41
deus402Thanks TvL238613:41
TvL2386deus402, yw, if I do find something more cooler, don't hesitate to ping me :)13:41
zerousIf I wanted to help with packaging, who might I contact ?13:43
anon^_^zerous, probably better asked in #ubuntu-community-team , #ubuntu-devel13:47
ioriadeus402, array=(`rename 's/\.mp4$/.test.mp4/' * && ls *.mp4`)   and then you can echo ${array[@]}  , if i got you13:54
deus402solution: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874743/13:56
deus402TvL2386: i was using * instead of @13:56
deus402and missing quotes on my output loops.13:56
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markithi, is it normal that linux-firmware-nonfree is no more in 16.04? Does it have changed name by chance?13:57
deus402ioria: thanks for the solution. everything i have been reading in the last couple hours though says it's a bad idea to parse ls output, i got it figured out though.13:58
ioriadeus402, ok, but the filename does not change in your script ...13:58
ioriadeus402, i thought you wanted to change it (for real, i mean)13:59
sruli1in lubuntu 16.04 how can i set the screen brightness on a notebook? hardware buttuns dont do it (while booted in win hardware buttons do work)14:01
ioriasruli1, xrandr --output myscreen  --brightness 0.7  , for example14:02
TvL2386hey deus402. I notice your second file is missing .orig in the name14:02
ioriasruli1,  where myscreen is vga, dp or whatever14:03
TvL2386deus402, I'm not convinced why parsing ls output is bad... I'm curious though14:03
TvL2386I use `ls * | while read file` or `find ...... | while read file` constructions quite often14:04
sruliioria: how do i find the name of my output?14:05
ioriasruli1, xxrandr14:05
ioriasruli1, xrandr | grep -w connected14:06
deus402TvL2386: missed that...14:06
elias_aWhat is a good reasonably sized live cd for running chrootkit?14:06
sruliioria: it seems its already set to 1.0 but its a far cry from bright! (btw, i reconnected as 'sruli')14:07
elias_aOr does not have to be a live cd. The important thing is the possibility to update the sw and signatures if needed.14:07
elias_aSo: which techie toolkit would you carry with you?14:08
deus402TvL2386: fixed https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874840/14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDhi14:08
SnooZerDI would like to ask how to have 16.10 server start booting in a font such as 8x16 and stay this size, until the login prompt.14:08
TvL2386deus402, nope. in and out are the same :)14:09
TvL2386back to the drawing board14:09
deus402lol, need more sleep i guess.14:10
deus402also, you may be right: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128985/why-not-parse-ls14:10
TvL2386definitely if you missed that :P14:10
SigmaTelHi!14:11
deus402literally every question on serverfault or stackexhange or whatever  has comments berating the parsing of ls, so, like the article says, i just accepted it wholesale.14:11
SigmaTelCan anybody help me with setting up WLAN in Ubuntu MinimalCD?14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDSigmaTel, uh minimal cd ?14:13
SigmaTelyep14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat's that?14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDalso sounds like something that will lack wireless drivers etc as well14:13
SigmaTelhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDproably the basic cut down thing14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDif thre is stil one sure14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDSigmaTel, are you after a grapphical user interface and such as well14:13
SigmaTelmy WLAN card is by Broadcom, with those proprietrary drivers.14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDif so better to use the standard desktop iso14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDSigmaTel, might be able to find a driver in additional drivers14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDsearfch for that14:14
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SebthreeBQM10HDin  unity interface14:14
SebthreeBQM10HD!wireless14:14
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDSigmaTel, broadcomm generally seems to need a propritary driver yes14:14
SigmaTelSebthreeBQM10HD: I have found the linux-image-extra for a kernel which I need, but repack of the initrd.gz gave me nothing14:15
SigmaTelThe standard ISO installs too many useless things for me.14:15
SigmaTelIf anybody interested, the link is here - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235066714:16
ngochaiHi guys, my system reboots itself everyday at 6.25am, how do I find out why?14:17
SigmaTelWiFiDocs doesn't have an article about BCM431214:17
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SnooZerDI would like to ask how to have 16.10 server start booting in a font such as 8x16 and stay this size, until the login prompt.14:18
Guest82033mazilla non funsiona14:18
TvL2386hey deus402 thanks for the link. Yeah I understand there could be corner-cases where parsing `ls` output would not work. In such a case where you do have to handle weird filenames, I fall back to using a programming language instead of bash scripting. Interesting read that why-not-parse-ls14:19
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TvL2386deus402, just use the right hammer for the right tool. And this is all fun and interesting, but when you just want to accomplish something, just create what you need. For your case a simple oneliner is enough. If you want something cool that always works, spend more time and craft something cool14:21
Jharmhello everyone, i have set up a local server and i'm having issues finding the domain from http. But for some reason i can see the domain from https. i have my server benind an AP client. This allows me to connect it to my router wirelessly, i'm thinking this might be my issue. Any suggestesing?14:22
TvL2386deus402, ruby -e "Dir.glob('*.mp4').each { |f| puts f.gsub(/\.mp4$/, '.test.mp4') }"14:23
TvL2386deus: and if you want the new filenames in an array: ruby -e "array = Dir.glob('*.mp4').map { |f| f.gsub(/\.mp4$/, '.test.mp4') }"14:24
Southern_GentlemJharm, sounds like you have a forward from http to https setup14:25
Jharmi think i crossed all my T and dotted all my i14:25
Jharmi check all config files and they all seem right14:25
Jharmi have both port 80 and 443 openend and listening.14:26
Phantomhi all14:27
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Jharmi was thing of just getting the ssl certificate, but its driving me crazy that i cant get it to work.. lol14:28
PhantomAn0nanybody knnow how to change background and font collor in mirc ?14:28
deus402TvL2386: heh, thanks14:28
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PhantomAn0ntest14:30
boycer!test14:32
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...14:32
Southern_GentlemPhantomAn0n,  read the mirc documentation14:34
PhantomAn0ni did14:35
PhantomAn0ni dont want to use a picture as background14:35
PhantomAn0njust for example collor black on white letters14:35
PhantomAn0ninstead of white on black letters14:35
sobczykis there any way to decrease pendrive write buffer, without going to extreme with sync mount option?14:39
sobczykI have a problem when copy operation is finished, but the data keeps syncing for the next few minutes14:40
sobczykit's a huge usability problem14:40
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liteon23anyone got an idea for this problem: admin-user can play a DVD, non-admin user can access the DVD but gets decoding errors. (ubuntu 16.04, vlc, libdvdcss2 installed)14:44
liteon23^non-admin user is in group cdrom14:45
liteon23could this be policykit related?14:45
liteon23^what other types of permissions are given to an admin-user besides group-memberships? (where and how?)14:50
quemhello folks. running 16.04 LTS. what's the most convenient way of always having the latest version of btrfs?14:51
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Onepamopahttp://pastebin.com/QsCULZRw  -- can someone tell me how to configure grub2 40_custom to boot freebsd, I tried a few times, only getting "invalid signature" ..14:54
PipeItToDevNullhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#FreeBSD_menu_entry14:56
Jharmhey liteon23 i had a similar permission issue with ftp. i had to create the group and give write access to the user. i think you can use:14:56
PhantomAn0nhi all14:58
PhantomAn0nquiet here like in most channels :P14:59
OnepamopaPipeItToDevNull, yeah that helped me a "lot", how do I know what to write here: set root='hd0,gpt4,bsd1' ?15:01
PhantomAn0n?15:02
PhantomAn0njust talk to yourself :P15:02
Onepamopado you do that often ?15:03
PipeItToDevNullIs there only 1 HDD?15:03
Onepamopayes, there is only 1 hdd with 6 partitions15:03
Onepamopa3 linux partitions, 3 bsd partitions15:03
Onepamopaall clearly visible here:  http://pastebin.com/QsCULZRw15:03
PipeItToDevNullWhat part number is BSD? I am unsure of how GPT counts partitions though15:03
Onepamopahave you opened the pastebin ?15:04
Onepamopaor your just talking for the sake of talking15:04
PipeItToDevNullOk so Onepamopa, according to that page sda4 should correspond to gpt415:04
PipeItToDevNullSo just use the same partition #15:04
Onepamopahd4 ?15:05
PipeItToDevNullgpt415:05
Onepamopa4,015:05
Onepamopagrub doesn't see gpt4, it sees sda415:05
PipeItToDevNullgrub sees GPT15:05
Onepamopaokay, testing with root 'gpt4'15:06
PipeItToDevNullThat is assuming BSD is on sda415:06
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Onepamopasda4 is bsd's bootloader15:07
Onepamopa"invalid signature"15:07
Onepamopatrying with gpt5 ..15:07
SpeirosHey:)15:09
nicomachushi Speiros15:11
SpeirosHi there nicomachus:)15:12
jnewtwhen i go to add a new printer from network, each of our network printers shows up twice, once as "LPD network printer", once as "IPP network printer via DNS-SD), does it matter which I chose?15:13
PipeItToDevNullUse the first15:14
jnewtand driver from "gutenprint"?15:14
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PipeItToDevNullI do not know about that, if one is needed I get it from the manufacturer15:16
jnewtmanufacturer offers two drivers for linux, cups or lpr, no lpd or ipp15:18
ppfthose are different things15:18
ppflpd and ipp are protocols to talk to printers over a network15:19
tatertotsjnewt: are you in physical possession of the driver from the manufacture? yes or no15:20
jnewttatertots: no, I have not downloaded either of those from the brother website.15:20
tatertotsjnewt: oh it's a brother?...just install the brother printer linux software15:21
tatertotsjnewt: don't think about it too hard...it's simple and easy to over think15:22
tatertotsjnewt: just install the software from bother15:22
jnewttatertots: which software?15:22
jnewtthere's all kinds of stuff, nothing that just says "brother printer linux software"15:23
tatertotsjnewt: here i'll do it for you...provide me the make and model number15:23
tatertotsjnewt: model #15:23
jnewt"Driver Install Tool"?15:24
tatertotsjnewt: yes that15:24
tatertotsjnewt: install it15:24
jnewtHL-2360D, HL-2380DW, and two others are on the network, but I really only need those two15:24
tatertotsjnewt: just a heads up but not required..do you know the ip address of the brother printer?..if you do not know do not worry about it15:25
ppfjust use the gutenprint driver ...15:26
dagerikim getting Failed to get properties: No such interface '' from systemctl. what does this mean15:26
ppfmanufacturer driver are figuratively always broken15:26
tatertotshmmm brother and HP make linux software for their printers but i digress.....HPLIP isn't broken..it's got a solid reputation and it's mature and been around a long time...but again i digress15:27
StevvoHi15:28
tatertotsnot here to enter into any urinating contests with any of you guys...just informing a "brother" printer owner that "brother" has linux software15:29
jackNemrodCan anyone help me in writing a part of my preseed file? I would like partman take /dev/sda as /boot and /dev/sdb for the LVM (whole disk). I don't understand how to do it15:29
jackNemrodIt's possible, isn't it?15:29
StevvoHow Do I open the configuration menu on xchat-gnome?15:29
Stevvonvm, found it15:29
PipeItToDevNullDamn, we are quick15:29
alias_neoDoes anyone know if Ubuntu 16 has the ability to do IPoFC? I bought a QLogic fibre channel card I'd like to use to hook my server upto my switch15:29
tatertotsalias_neo: check the qlogic documentation for your card15:30
OnepamopaBy the way, is there a way to encrypt a hdd/ssd via password supplied in the bios, without the need to reenter the password on each boot? In essence - to "lock" the disk to this motherboard. ?15:31
tatertotsalias_neo: or just post the model# and we'll research it for you15:31
tatertotsalias_neo: it's not hard to do15:31
AnticomHi all. I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 16 LTS. I've just installed a windows instance in virtualbox. I wanted the guest additions so i went ahead and installed it. It had to be downloaded first. Now (and also after several reboots) my pc just locks up as soon as i launch the first gui application15:32
AnticomI suspect that some .ko might have been installed etc. ? Because the guest addition is supposed to live in in the guest only, right?15:32
AnticomIs this a known issue? Or shall i rather head over to #virtualbox?15:33
tatertotsAnticom: is vt enabled?15:33
tatertotsAnticom: if you are unsure best head over to #vbox15:33
Anticomtatertots: how can i tell? I've switched to another tty so i get at least a shell15:33
Anticombut i'm not that much of a linux pro15:34
tatertotsAnticom: head over to #vbox i'll help you there...you know how easily someone will claim you are off topic15:34
tatertotsAnticom: so best get out of here now15:34
himcesjf/part15:35
himcesjfer15:35
alias_neotatertots: I have the QLE246215:36
alias_neotatertots: I have got as far as loading the HBA driver and I can see the fc_host device15:37
alias_neobut my knowledge of fibre is zero so this is a learning exercise, sadly most of the references i can find online are not for ubuntu/debian15:37
tatertotsalias_neo: according to http://www.qlogic.com/Resources/Documents/DataSheets/Adapters/Datasheet_2400Series_FCAdapter.pdf15:38
tatertotsalias_neo: it says to go here http://driverdownloads.qlogic.com/QLogicDriverDownloads_UI/Defaultnewsearch.aspx15:39
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tatertotsalias_neo: and that says red hat and sles are supported...officially from the qlogic perspective15:40
alias_neotatertots, been there, they have only drivers for windows server, RHEL and solaris :(15:40
tatertotsalias_neo: so if you want support from the company who made the darn card...that answer is no15:40
alias_neotatertots: I wouldn't expect that... I'm a linux user :D15:41
huggybear404I get grub-install dummy failed installing to usb disk, is there a way to fix that ?15:41
tatertotsalias_neo: if you have problems with the card and try to escalate to qlogic and their support guys get wind you're using it in ubuntu...they can officially tell you to go suck an egg15:42
alias_neotatertots: Yeah, I understand, I'm quite happy to do this purely on community support if possible15:43
tatertotsalias_neo: is the card installed in the box now?15:46
alias_neotatertots: Yes15:46
tatertotsalias_neo: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit15:46
tatertotsalias_neo: let me know when it's installed15:48
alias_neosure, one moment, need to get a network connection up15:49
tomreynhi. i use lvm on top of dmcrypt-luks on top of mdadm raid-1's, and run into timeouts while rebooting: http://i.imgur.com/jdqU3NI.png15:49
tomreynthat's on 16.04.1 with all updates installed, no 3rd party packages15:50
RWOverdijkI'm about to buy a new laptop, and I was curious if anyone here could help me figure out (before I buy it) if it'll run kubuntu. http://pricecat.be/en_sg/p/asus/90nb0bh2-m09330/4712900540451-R558UQ-DM741T-33280611.html15:50
tomreynhas anyone else run into these timeouts?15:51
tomreynalso "stoppping" (3 'p') ooks like a typo to me :)15:53
ppftomreyn: do those occur on every shutdown?15:55
ppfit's a somewhat known problem with systemd15:55
ppfis one of those volumes your swap?15:55
digbychickenRWOverdijk, that system should do fine. I can't see any reason it wouldn't.15:56
tomreynppf: yes, and yes. but *i think* it only started recently, so *i assume* it was likely introduced by an update.15:56
RWOverdijkdigbychicken, Thank you. I'm sorry, I can be a bit of a... chicken15:56
digbychickenRWOverdijk, minimum/recommended kubuntu requirements here: http://askubuntu.com/a/33386415:56
alias_neotatertots: ok, they're installed15:56
RWOverdijkdigbychicken, yeah, this is... this is better. I'm pretty sure I can run it :p15:57
ppftomreyn: it's possible that this is a memory issue. if you're deactivating swap, swapped contents need to be migrated back into memory. if that's out of space then swapoff fails and dm-crypt will timeout15:57
digbychickenRWOverdijk, I've installed kubuntu on much less and it's done great.15:57
RWOverdijkdigbychicken, To be honest I was aiming more towards drivers and stuff15:58
ppfat least that's a theory i discussed with the systemd people couple months backl15:58
RWOverdijkI've had a lot of issues with wifi, display etc in the past15:58
tomreynppf: this system has ~ 30 GB unallocated RAM available in standard operation. swap is smaller than that.15:58
tatertotsalias_neo: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit15:58
tatertotsalias_neo: share url/link here15:58
digbychickenRWOverdijk, I haven't had an issue w/ drivers on Asus systems.15:59
ppftomreyn: hm15:59
ppftomreyn: i have no other idea, then. if you figure it out, though, let me know!15:59
RWOverdijkdigbychicken, alright then. Thank you :)15:59
digbychickenRWOverdijk, the only thing you might have to do is install the NVidia drivers (if you get the model w/ a dedicated NVidia card)15:59
ppfmaybe show that to #systemd directly?15:59
digbychickenRWOverdijk, but it will run w/ the open source drivers until you do15:59
RWOverdijkdigbychicken, Awesome, thanks for the heads up :)16:01
tomreynppf: actually i was mistaken, sorry, there is no swap configured.16:03
tomreynbut i guess this doesn't change things.16:03
tomreynppf: since you point out it is a known issue / shortcoming of systemd, are you aware of any bug reports on it? i searched the web but could not find anything matching this specific issue.16:04
tatertotsalias_neo: i'm going for coffee bbiab16:07
alias_neotatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2387542816:08
alias_neotatertots: no problem, also, I'm not sure the info is useful, the card isn't mentioned, and the rest of the system spec is irrelevent (mostly) as it's not the server the card will sit in eventually, it's a workstation I'm on while setting up16:08
tatertotsalias_neo: it's mainly to check your os version details and minors, but mostly to check your aptitude in getting support info to me in a timely manner16:10
tatertotsalias_neo: bbiab16:10
tatertotsalias_neo: in terminal>     lspci -v|pastebinit16:11
tatertotsalias_neo: share url/link here16:11
user11011hi16:13
PipeItToDevNullHi16:13
snkcldhi16:13
user11011This is my first time on irc, just tring it out =)16:14
alias_neotatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23875463/16:17
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PipeItToDevNullIRC is fun, try the irssi client16:20
nieehi folks. any one to help me please? i have a problem http://pastebin.com/UrE5TPpC16:21
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zykotick9niee: <just two quick sidenotes> 1) it's probably best to at least give some "hint" at what your issue is about on irc in addition to the link and 2) you might want to consider using a different paste site to pastebin .com  fyi ubuntu has a paste.ubuntu.com  -- best of luck with your issue (whatever it might be)16:23
tatertotsalias_neo: looks good16:24
tatertotsalias_neo: again not officially supported from the qlogic perspective but the module is loaded16:25
alias_neotatertots: So any idea how I get it to do IP given the HBA is loaded? I have no idea how I make it a network device16:29
alias_neotatertots: ifconfig -a doesn't list it, perhaps I have to "create" a device some how?16:29
tatertotsalias_neo: the ROM isn't loaded16:29
tatertotsalias_neo: standby i'll illustrate16:29
tatertotsalias_neo: Expansion ROM at fbd40000 [disabled] [size=256K]16:30
alias_neotatertots: Ok, I have access to the firmware files, but how do I load a ROM?16:32
adalbertemulator?16:37
tatertotsalias_neo: have you installed the firmware16:38
ppftomreyn: no, i'm not aware of anything like that. but i've heard of it plenty of times16:39
alias_neotatertots: not yet, I was planning on manually copying them out of the rpm on the official site into the /lib/firmware directory...16:42
* unreg_nick wonders if weechat is any better than irssi16:42
ladidadida_Hi there, what can I do on an Ubuntu Tablet to update ca certificates? Should this be updated by ubuntu update?16:42
tatertotsalias_neo: you won't get very far without that firmware being in place16:43
alias_neotatertots: oops, ok, let me do that first16:45
tomreynthanks p p f16:54
pvl1hey all, im running ubuntu on a pcduino's NAND. im wondering if i can use the sd bootable image, and use it to upgrade my nand16:58
zerousat what time are #ubuntu-community & #ubuntu-devel usually active ?17:00
zerous*is17:00
AnticomI think i boiled down my issue. 'xinput test <id of the mouse>' does record the movement but no click17:01
AnticomWhat could cause such issue?17:01
pf100zerous: lurk for 24 hours and look at the timestamps. Gives you a good idea. Works in any channel (except ones that don't allow lurking)17:02
AnticomEspecially being related to messing with virtualbox guest additions?17:02
AnticomThis is what dmesg is giving me when i unplugged my mouse and plugged it back into another port: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23875684/17:04
Anticomlooks good to me, so i don't get where the exact problem is17:04
AnticomAny help in further diagnosing the problem?17:06
OerHeksAnticom, i just joined, is this a mouse issue on a laptop?17:06
AnticomOerHeks: No, it's old server hardware i'm using as my workstation17:08
Anticomi'm on ubuntu 16 LTS17:08
AnticomI've set up a virtualbox windows 10 vm and downloaded + installed the guest additions. Since then my Host OS is giving me this issue even if the VM isn't running17:09
AnticomI've even gone through completly removing virtualbox from my host but the problem still exists17:09
AnticomI just can't figure out what exactly is wrong and as a consequence how to fix it17:09
OerHeksI noticed fresh guest additions update, few minutes ago.17:10
AnticomOerHeks: well there should be nothing left of vbox anymore. I've also checked the *.ko's17:10
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AnticomOerHeks: Any ideas what could be going wrong on my machine?17:12
dirtylifeandtimeis it good practice to move an executable into a directory already included in $PATH instead of adding a directory to the $PATH??17:12
Anticomdirtylifeandtime: depends i'd say17:13
naccdirtylifeandtime: depends on the directory you are referring to17:13
OerHeksAnticom, no idea, mouse seems detected, so that serverboard has open usb ports. else i would look into the bios for disable usb17:13
alias_neotatertots: Firmware was already installed it seems, dmesg says iscsi driver is loaded, I'm not sure what else to look for? You said it mentioned ROM not eing loaded?17:13
dirtylifeandtimenacc: it's Apache Directory Studio...right now it's just in my ~/Downloads17:14
AnticomOerHeks: Well the movement is recognized by xinput. I'm puzzled17:14
naccdirtylifeandtime: I'm assuming it's not just an executable, but an entire "studio", which might depend on relative paths to where you run it from. So it's (completely guessing) possibly it's not as simple as just moving a script17:15
dirtylifeandtimenacc: you're right. it depends on a lot of other files in the same directory17:17
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PipeItToDevNullI wanna cuddle me some heroin17:19
AnticomI just got my collegues mouse and tested it using xinput test. There even left mouse click is recorded. However the UI doesn't respond to clicks / d'n'd17:20
Anticomi don't get this17:20
ioriaAnticom, and what gui is that ?17:24
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tatertotsalias_neo: have you attempted to present a LUN to the system?17:26
tatertotsAnticom: were you able to debug things? if not produce a report and have it analyzed17:27
alias_neotatertots: no, I'm not familiar with the terminology, do you mean, hook it up to my switch?17:28
Anticomtatertots, OerHeks : OMG i solved it. You'll never guess it. My left mousebutton just broke silently. I wasn't testing the other mouse properly17:29
alias_neotatertots: I haven't hooked up anything to it yet, but I can...17:29
AnticomSwitching to anothere mouse just fixed the problem, so that's at least what i'm assuming17:29
OerHeksAnticom :-)17:30
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tatertotsalias_neo: what were you planning on doing with the card?17:36
naccdirtylifeandtime: it seems like what you actually want to do is 'install' it, for some definition of that specificy to the tool you're trying to use17:37
koen_Hi for some reason internet inside ubuntu which is installed in vmware is not working17:38
koen_what can be done17:38
koen_any fix?17:38
nicomachus!patience | koen_17:39
ubottukoen_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:39
SynfulAckAnyone know how to get powerline installed on tmux?17:40
kang0Any windows or Android expert?17:41
tatertotskoen_: what nic/vnic settings are you using?.....if this gets much deeper than this...one of these guys will say you're offtopic....best head to #vmware and i'll help you there17:41
nacckang0: i feel like neither of those are ontopic for this channel17:41
BluesKajkang0, no support here for either of those OSs17:42
naccSynfulAck: `apt install powerline` then read the documentation?17:42
kang0What's difference between iso and IMG file17:42
SynfulAcknacc, its unclear to me, idk where to get a tmux.conf file, the last one i tried broke functionality.17:43
naccSynfulAck: it's shipped by the package afaict?17:44
pavloskoen_, try setting the network adapter to bridge instead of nat and try again17:44
naccSynfulAck: well, not tmux.conf,but tmux/powerline.conf (which you'd presumable source in your tmux.conf)17:44
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naccSynfulAck: https://powerline.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage/other.html17:46
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alias_neotatertots: I was planning on giving an extra couple of gigabit links into the SFP ports on my switch17:48
alias_neotatertots: from the server17:48
SynfulAcknacc, i didnt use pip to install the stuff, i used the package manager.17:48
naccSynfulAck: yes, read the docs to see how to configure it, please17:49
naccSynfulAck: specifically "Tmux statusline"17:49
Guest5607Hi, I get dropped to initramfs by Grub2. I would like to unlock my LUKS drive via cryptsetup but the command is not available. Is there a module missing?17:49
wyrewhat do you think about use that to ubuntu server 16.04? http://askubuntu.com/questions/57220/start-vboxheadless-vm-at-startup17:50
SynfulAcknacc, yeah but for the repository root it wants me to use pip.17:50
naccSynfulAck: powerline contains: /usr/share/powerline/bindings/tmux/powerline.conf17:53
koen_pavlos: right now its bridged.i have managed to change.but even now i am not getting it.. any fix for this?17:54
pavloskoen_, I dont use vmware, it was a suggestion. I have no way of testing this17:55
naccSynfulAck: or you could have done what I said earlier and just read the shipped documentation: /usr/share/doc/powerline/README.Debian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876011/17:56
SynfulAcknacc, got it now, path is different and discovered you dont even need a legit tmux.conf17:56
koen_anyone else?17:57
SynfulAckgiggity giggity goo17:57
tatertotsalias_neo: what protocol did you plan on using to accomplish this task?17:58
alias_neotatertots: tcp/ip?17:59
tatertotsalias_neo: i don't see it listed in the datasheet http://www.qlogic.com/Resources/Documents/DataSheets/Adapters/Datasheet_2400Series_FCAdapter.pdf18:00
tatertotsalias_neo: you might be better served by obtaining some additional 10/100/1000 network adapters that connect via a slot on the board or even usb 3.018:02
alias_neotatertots: That would be unfortunate, the goal was to free up two of the existing ports on my Ubnt switch by switching the server to the fiber channel and I could use the currently unused SFP ports on the switch18:03
alias_neoIs there likely to be anything I can use the connection between this card and my switch for? Even if I re-imlpement my ZFS pool using them, or am I just trying to use incompatible hardware? In which case I just wasted a bit of cash on some useless kit ;)18:05
tatertotsalias_neo: according to http://www.qlogic.com/Resources/Documents/DataSheets/Adapters/Datasheet_2400Series_FCAdapter.pdf  that would be using the hardware outside of it's use case as per the manufacture, not saying you can't but it's so far out in "unsupported" land..you'd be out there by yourself in doing so18:05
alias_neotatertots: The fact they supply the following software is what gave me the idea it'd work; "FC-FCoE, iSCSI, and Ethernet Networking drivers"18:07
wyrehi guys, I've not wired connection in gnome-control-center18:09
tatertotsalias_neo: the ip portion is encapsulated, you would have to do and be able to do some heavy duty reverse engineering to work that out..depending on how much your time is worth (to you) it might be worth trying18:09
alias_neotatertots: It's worth too much to bother with that, I'll just buy another card.18:10
alias_neotatertots: Anything you can suggest I look at in particular?18:11
tatertotsalias_neo: hmmm if your goal is truly to 'free up ports on switch' ......i'd suggest obtaining an additional switch18:13
gusgg_I have some files in /etc and I'd like to know which package put them there.18:13
tatertotsalias_neo: i know the cost thing is there...but you did say you needed to free up ports....as in you do not have enough ports18:13
EriC^^gusgg_: dpkg -S /etc/stuff18:14
gusgg_EriC^^: thanks, I'll give this a try18:14
tatertotsalias_neo: and when one does not have enough ports on ones switch...one would obtain a additional switch to increase port density/capcity18:14
alias_neotatertots: Absolutely understand, but this is for home use, I'm trying to learn,play and hopefully take advantage of a couple of free SFP ports on my new switch18:15
alias_neotatertots: obviously I haden't realised how different FC was to anything else i've used before18:15
RWOverdijkQuick, probably stupid question. I want to install kubuntu on a laptop I _just_ bought, but does it matter if I use UEFI or legacy?18:16
RWOverdijkIt seems that legacy would be easier, but maybe it's also worse. I don't know.18:16
tatertotsalias_neo: the card you have is designed for enterprise class storage18:16
alias_neotatertots: Yeah, I probably picked up the wrong one, I'd read around about some "old" FC cards that could be repurposed for 1G home fibre18:17
alias_neotatertots: From what you're saying, this is the wrong card18:18
alias_neotatertots: Is there a freeware OS I could hook this up with to use it to create a SAN then? Or am I still barking up the wrong tree?18:20
EriC^^RWOverdijk: uefi is 1sec quicker to boot18:21
alias_neosay VyOS or something?18:21
EriC^^RWOverdijk: if you can install in uefi you might as well, isn't the laptop already with windows and uefi?18:22
RWOverdijkEriC^^, it is.18:22
RWOverdijkAlso omaigosh a full second?18:22
RWOverdijkI don't know anything about this uefi stuff. So I think it's easiest to go full legacy then?18:22
EriC^^lol18:23
EriC^^RWOverdijk: up to you18:23
EriC^^i was going to go on about why it's better but whatever i figured the might as well would be enough18:23
RWOverdi_"switched to wifi, so I might drop off" jup haha...18:24
EriC^^it's like trading in a new car for an old carb'd POS cause it's too complicated18:24
RWOverdi_EriC^^, sorry for that18:24
EriC^^np, just yanking your chain a little18:24
RWOverdi_But, if it doesn't change anything, why should I? Really curious, because the internet says don't use it. But it sounds like a til foil hat kind of guy18:25
KristijanZicHi! Is there some web api for snaps like there is for clicks like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ClickPackageIndex  ? I had some free time and have developed some ubuntu webstore in Angular just need to connect it to something if there is an api.18:25
naccKristijanZic: may want to ask in #snappy18:26
RWOverdi_"UEFI brings a heck of a lot of disadvantages with it and no advantages. Don't use it. You're basically giving away control of your own computer to corporations. Don't do that, that's a bad idea."18:26
KristijanZicnacc: did that, no answer.18:26
EriC^^RWOverdi_: well here's the deal, it's the new bios, it's well thought out and way better than the old bios, but some companies make it a little difficult to install os other than microsoft18:28
Amm0nRWOverdi_, that's right, but that's a little late. You already bought an UEFI device which only emulates legacy bios18:28
EriC^^RWOverdi_: it's not difficult to trick it into loading other os usually18:29
RWOverdi_Oh...18:29
RWOverdi_I'll attempt to install it with uefi after legacy18:30
RWOverdi_See if I can spot the difference18:30
EriC^^hp and lenovo are the most notorious ones for bad implementations18:30
EriC^^RWOverdi_: there is no real difference18:30
RWOverdi_It's a lenovo ideapad18:30
RWOverdi_(700)18:30
RWOverdi_Wait but, if there's no difference, why does it matter then?18:31
naccKristijanZic: it seems like you're getting answers just fine, maybe impatient?18:31
RWOverdi_I've dealt with noobs in my field so I know how frustrating I must be to you right now18:31
RWOverdi_Oh I think I already broke it18:32
EriC^^RWOverdi_: well you have more control over some aspects, like in bios there's just the mbr and it can hold only 1 bootloader, in uefi there's a efi partition which can have many bootloaders at the same time18:32
RWOverdi_Ah. But you usually only need one, right18:33
ioriaRWOverdi_, and maybe take a look at this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/743996/ubuntu-on-lenovo-y700-201618:34
EriC^^well, if you remove ubuntu then you need a windows cd for instance if you hadn't backed up the mbr18:34
KristijanZicnacc, that seems to be the case yes XD18:36
RWOverdi_EriC^^, I feel like I did something too quick then... And I already messed it up... It installed, it's set to legacy, but it's saying... media test failure18:36
pitastrudli cannot seem to zoom in qpdfview on xubuntu xenial lts18:37
pitastrudli tried reinstalling the package18:37
bluekingwhat filesystem to choose when add new hdd to ubuntu 16.04    size are 8TB...18:37
EriC^^blueking: ext4 is fine18:37
EriC^^RWOverdi_: you set the bios to legacy then installed ubuntu?18:38
bluekingtried google for add new hdd on ubuntu without gui18:38
Amm0nblueking, make sure it got a GPT Partition table18:38
EriC^^RWOverdi_: can you boot a live usb on it?18:38
RWOverdi_EriC^^, correct18:38
RWOverdi_Yes18:38
RWOverdi_http://askubuntu.com/a/40160518:38
EriC^^with an internet connection?18:38
RWOverdi_I'll try this?18:38
RWOverdi_Yep18:38
EriC^^type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"18:38
EriC^^paste the link it gives you here18:38
EriC^^blueking: also type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"18:39
RWOverdi_Ok18:40
bluekingwhat are 9999 ?18:40
EriC^^blueking: port number18:40
Amm0nit18:40
pitastrudlnevermind, had to also wipe the configs18:40
pitastrudlworks now18:40
Amm0nnvm18:40
bluekingEriC^^ was that addressed to wrong guy ?18:40
EriC^^blueking: no18:40
RWOverdi_EriC^^, http://termbin.com/l6la18:42
oscar__Hi, from Chile18:42
bluekingwhy would I need to connect net to install hdd ?18:43
EriC^^RWOverdi_: try setting a boot flag on the first partition just in case, and if it still doesn't work try some hdd settings in the bios18:44
Amm0nblueking, it's to show us your actual partitionlayout18:44
bluekingah18:44
RWOverdi_EriC^^, What's.. What's a boot flag?18:44
Amm0nblueking, try the command without the part after | and see if you want to share this informations18:45
EriC^^RWOverdi_: type "sudo fdisk /dev/nvme0n1"18:45
EriC^^RWOverdi_: press "a" then press 1 for the first partition, it's a flag the bios sometimes needs present before booting the mbr18:46
EriC^^most likely you need some hdd setting changed in the bios though18:46
bluekingEriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876257/18:47
EriC^^blueking: looks good, you can mount them from the filemanager i guess18:47
EriC^^or sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt  (and /dev/sdc1 for the 2nd)18:48
bluekingwhy is ssd fat32 ?18:48
EriC^^blueking: that's an efi partition18:48
bluekingoh18:48
bluekingok18:48
bluekingEriC^^ there are one thing I want to change with current system.. I want bigger /boot ... it fills up pretty fast with ongoing upgrades18:49
EriC^^blueking: yeah18:50
bluekingare it doable without reinstall all shit ?18:50
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RWOverdi_EriC^^, Heh, it says "no hdd detected". I can't find any other disk settings in bios18:50
EriC^^blueking: you could use part of the efi partition18:50
EriC^^blueking: take 300mb from the efi partition and use them18:51
bluekinghow ?18:51
EriC^^RWOverdi_: ahci stuff or something?18:51
EriC^^blueking: you want to do it now?18:51
RWOverdi_EriC^^, I don't know what that means. I bought like 90 minutes ago.18:52
bluekingnot yet... must finish ubiquiti edgerouter setup first,  ubuntu pc are current router18:52
EriC^^ok18:52
bluekingam going to convert router into fileserver when ubiquiti takes place as router18:53
RWOverdi_I've installed ubuntu many times before, it was always as simple as boot from usb and click next a bunch of times. Not sure where I messed up...18:53
bluekingadd two more nic's on pc18:53
bluekingtotal 4 interfaces..18:53
EriC^^RWOverdi_: look over the settings in the bios for anything related to the hdd18:54
RWOverdi_EriC^^, there's only a samsung listing under boot devices (guessing that's the hdd), and the "no hdd found" message.18:54
bluekinglag lacp or whatever , one reserved for link out on net (torrenting) and 1 reserved for media streaming and 1 for main lan and one for kids zone.. lag  trunk vlans on that or sumthin18:54
EriC^^RWOverdi_: are you sure bios is selected? (csm legacy support)?18:55
RWOverdi_Yes, and priority is set to legacy as well.18:55
bluekingpoint are to avout inter traffic betweeen different vlans /subnet through router18:55
bluekingavout avoid18:55
ioriaRWOverdi_, and try to disable Secure boot and Fast boot  too ( if there is)18:56
Amm0nRWOverdi_, nvme devices are relatively new and as EriC^^ stated before the implemention of it is not good by many vendors. Especialy the implemention of legacy bios.18:56
Amm0ns/it/UEFI18:57
RWOverdi_So.... I'm screwed? :p18:57
EriC^^RWOverdi_: is the hdd the one that came with the lenovo?18:57
RWOverdi_yes18:57
RWOverdi_Nothing changed, just unboxed it.18:57
dupondjeSomebody else with issues with the newest firefox update?18:58
bluekingEriC^^  if join fileserver to different vlans  and these vlans see eachother  as no firewall block interrouting..  how would filetransfer go from users on diff  vlans to/from fileserver when fileserver are member of all vlans that has access to fileserver ?18:59
EriC^^blueking: no idea18:59
EriC^^RWOverdi_: ok let's try to reinstall grub just in case19:00
EriC^^RWOverdi_: try sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt19:00
RWOverdi_It says "secure boot disabled" on the information tab. and this is my boot screen: https://s28.postimg.org/cl0h48lod/IMG_4274.jpg19:01
RWOverdi_oh okay, let me switch back to the live disk. Thank you for helping me by the way, really appreciate it.19:01
EriC^^anything in "configuration" ?19:01
RWOverdi_EriC^^, https://s23.postimg.org/6h9j0d0qz/IMG_4275.jpg19:03
RWOverdi_The back flash looks interesting. It says "allow BIOS to be back leveled to a previous version"19:03
EriC^^ok, boot the live usb again19:06
RWOverdi_Done19:07
RWOverdi_Now do "sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt"?19:07
EriC^^yup19:07
RWOverdi_ack19:07
EriC^^did you set the bootflag btw?19:08
RWOverdi_Earlier? yes19:08
RWOverdi_a, 119:08
RWOverdi_Also command is done19:09
EriC^^ok cool, wrote to disk?19:09
EriC^^(bootflag)19:09
RWOverdi_Everything is there19:09
RWOverdi_Ehm....19:09
RWOverdi_No19:09
RWOverdi_I think?19:09
RWOverdi_I did a, 1, q19:09
EriC^^try sudo parted -l and look at the far right next to ext419:09
RWOverdi_Nothing there19:09
RWOverdi_So, I'll go again19:10
RWOverdi_Write is "w" I guess?19:10
EriC^^yeah19:10
EriC^^what field are you in?19:10
EriC^^(just curious)19:10
RWOverdi_Programming.19:10
RWOverdi_I know basic linux stuff.... Usually find no problems at all. I used these commands before but I never... Remembered them.19:10
RWOverdi_If it worked, it worked, and I'd google it again next time.19:11
EriC^^yeah19:11
RWOverdi_the partition table has been altered.19:12
EriC^^ok great19:12
RWOverdi_Re-reading failed19:12
RWOverdi_But it's still there19:12
EriC^^no big deal19:12
RWOverdi_And now it has the flag boot in parted19:12
bluekingEriC^^  did u notice my raid arracy on router ?19:12
EriC^^awesome19:12
RWOverdi_Reboot?19:12
bluekingarray19:12
EriC^^blueking: no, i've no idea about that stuff, sorry19:12
EriC^^RWOverdi_: not yet19:12
EriC^^RWOverdi_: "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"19:13
bluekingEriC^^ 2x 4TB wd red hdd -> raid0  8TB in one partition19:13
RWOverdi_EriC^^, Done.19:14
RNevillemaybe a hardware question, but I have integrated video gpu - HD 7660D AMD - could I run two of my monitors on internal video gpu and run one monitor off of a more powerful video card?19:14
EriC^^RWOverdi_: sudo chroot /mnt19:15
RWOverdi_Also done19:15
RNevillewhat to help Lightworks under 14.04 Ubuntu perform better, is why I ask19:15
RWOverdi_Heeey, home has my user19:15
EriC^^RWOverdi_: grub-install --recheck /dev/nvme0n119:16
RWOverdi_EriC^^, No error reported19:16
EriC^^RWOverdi_: update-grub19:16
RWOverdi_EriC^^, done19:17
RWOverdi_I'm writing this all down btw. Want to man mount for instance to figure our what -B means... I want to learn this stuff.19:17
RWOverdi_oh, I really should've "man mount" that. It sounds... wrong now.19:18
EriC^^lol19:18
Amm0nxD19:18
EriC^^RWOverdi_: there's one last thing we can check, it's a little anal but what the hell19:18
EriC^^RWOverdi_: first exit the chroot19:19
RWOverdi_Pun intended?19:19
RWOverdi_done19:19
RWOverdi_(ctrl+d right?)19:19
EriC^^RWOverdi_: then type sudo dd if=/dev/nvme0n1 bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C19:19
EriC^^RWOverdi_: look at the last 4, is it 55aa?19:19
RWOverdi__technually_ no. There's a new line with 020019:20
RWOverdi_But the last line in style with the rest, yes, is 55aa19:20
EriC^^ok cool19:20
EriC^^try rebooting19:20
RWOverdi_Holy crap19:21
RWOverdi_It's asking me to remove the usb19:21
RWOverdi_That's new at least19:21
RWOverdi_Now lenovo...19:21
RWOverdi_No blinking this time19:21
RWOverdi_KUBUNTU19:21
EriC^^yay19:22
RWOverdi_I'll keep my joy to myself as to not get kicked for spam but, thank you.19:22
EriC^^RWOverdi_: no problem19:22
RWOverdi_Do you think it was the simple writing of the boot flag this time?19:23
EriC^^yup19:23
EriC^^that would be my guess19:23
RWOverdi_I want to blog it for other people with the same problem19:23
Amm0nSome bioses can't boot without it19:24
Lenhmm anyone here is doing kvm passthrough with ubuntu?19:24
compdocLen, never found a use for it, but the hardware supporting it is more important than the OS19:25
cotinAnyone that can recommend a webserver with gui that can handle virtual hosts?19:25
Lencompdoc: yeah I know about it, been runing it on arch19:25
Lenbut just been wondering if there are any problems on ubuntu19:25
Lenguess no19:25
rypervenchecotin: I would recommend learning how to do it from the command line, as it will have the most features and flexibility.19:26
compdocive tried it. my newer intel systems handled it muchg better than amd19:26
RNevilleUnder Ubuntu 16.04 could I run two monitors off internal gpu, and run a third monitor from pci 3.0 modern video card, and if so would it be beneficial to do so?19:26
ppfcompdoc: what kind of gui are you looking for19:27
compdocppf, not looking19:27
ppfsorry, cotin ^19:27
cotinyeah sure i understand that. And i eventualy will. But i have a job i need to do so for now i really need this.19:28
cotinVitrualmin is a bitch19:28
cotini dont like xampp-19:28
cotinAnd im looking for something like mamp actually.19:29
Amm0ncotin, nginx, tomcat19:29
cotinbut for ubuntu.19:29
ppfnginx is pretty easily configurable19:29
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cotinAlright19:29
cotinwill check it out right away19:29
youngtimydickhello19:32
youngtimydickwho is here19:33
cotinwith these webservers it would be easier to edit the vitrualhosts file that comes with ubuntu and just use xampp.19:33
k1l_cotin: dont use xampp. its a security nightmare.19:33
cotinyeah19:33
cotinvitrualmin has a fantastic Web-GUI but is filled with lots of bugs.19:34
cotinSo what to do then...19:35
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cotinSwitch to windows or mac? I will blow my brains out before i leave linux.19:35
k1l_cotin: what it the issue with adding the configs?19:37
groundze2ohello..just updated my kernel from 4.8 to 4.1019:38
cotinWell i will need to change virtuals host often for different websites testing and developing.19:38
groundze2owhat does this change in my system?19:38
Amm0ngroundze2o, your kernel version :p19:40
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Amm0nquestion is, do you have any problems now19:40
Amm0nand why did you need to?19:40
k1l_groundze2o: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FDebuggingMainlineBuildsUbuntuDrivers.Do_mainline_kernel_builds_include_Ubuntu_specific_drivers.3F19:41
k1l_groundze2o: you miss the ubuntu patches now, some driver stuff and others19:41
groundze2oi hope it will now make my wortld of tank on playonlinux work19:41
groundze2oi have an nvidia 960m but can't play games.... -.- gj linux19:42
k1l_groundze2o: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FGeneralUbuntuDelta.What_differentiates_the_Ubuntu_Kernel_from_the_upstream_Linux_Kernel.3F19:42
k1l_groundze2o: i doubt it was a kernel issue. did you install the ubuntu nvidia driver?19:42
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jackNemrodCan anyone help me in writing a part of my preseed file? I would like partman take /dev/sda as /boot and /dev/sdb for the LVM (whole disk). I don't understand how to do it19:45
Amm0ncotin, i'd recommand you to try what fits your needs and dive into it to make it secure if you plan to use it online19:45
groundze2ok1l_: i guess so..it was automatically installed in the driver section..right?19:46
k1l_groundze2o: you have to chose it in the driver section, yes.19:46
groundze2odoing it right now..19:47
groundze2oi hope it won't break my machine..i wasn't able to run any linux distro until 16.10 ubuntu..19:47
humbertl1hi19:49
humbertl1how you19:50
qwxleatrying to find who is responsible for my dns addresses on ubuntu 16.10: not resolv.conf, but where?19:51
ppfdnsmasq19:52
ppfvia network manager19:52
qwxleappf: dnsmasq config is also empty, network manager, where can i find its config?19:52
qwxleappf: /etc/networkmanager :-) oeps19:53
ppf/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d19:53
ash_workzis it silly to split your public and member areas of a website across 2 servers? perhaps for security reasons?19:53
bombsldoes any one have any idea how can i decode this ? : swi&CNJCtKVbCyyAmNG8PqFZsYpyXegEQRGt19:55
gusgg_can I apt-get autoremove only a specific package? It's not the same as purging, because if there's still a dependency on a package, I don't want to be able to purge it19:55
k1l_bombsl: is this ubuntu related?19:56
Dave_ElecHey guys does anyone know how to setup oculus development kit on ubuntu?19:56
qwxleappf: also empty /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d so weird19:56
ppfpgrep -a -f dnsmasq19:57
ppfqwxlea: what exactly are you trying to do?19:58
qwxleappf: change my dns server to something else19:59
ppfhow are you configuring your interfaces?19:59
ppfnetworkmanager?19:59
qwxleatrying opendns, googledns and opennicproject.org20:00
ppfis it networkmanager or /etc/interfaces*?20:00
groundze2oalright..updated kernel..changed driver..hopefully WOT on playonlinux will work now20:01
qwxleappf: networkmanager, which means it gets it from my router i suppose20:01
ppfsure. right click the icon, Edit Connections20:01
ppfon the ipv4 tab you can specify dns servers20:01
qwxleappf: that was embarrassingly simple20:02
ppf)20:02
ppf:)20:02
cotinAmm0n my server will only be used for testing and developing different websites before being pushed to another webserver.20:02
mrhubrisjehi20:02
mrhubrisjeanyone know why i'm having this problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876698/20:03
qwxleappf: still, i would prefer to set my dnsmasq settings, i'll google that first ;-)20:03
ppfwhy?20:05
ppfthe relevant dnsmasq instance is created/managed by networkmanager20:05
ppfwhich adds itself into your /etc/resolv.conf20:05
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k1l_mrhubrisje: looks like its this issue: http://superuser.com/a/94976820:06
qwxleappf: which means i have to change every wireless connection i User__20:06
qwxleasorry, use20:06
k1l_mrhubrisje: or use sudo to manage the mysql20:07
mrhubrisjek1l_, I'll have a look at your link first20:07
mrhubrisjethanks20:07
ppfqwxlea: you can put stuff into resolv.conf20:07
wedgiesure, but it'll likely get clobbered in short order20:07
ppfqwxlea: i.e., add nameserver entries to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head20:08
qwxleappf: thanks, reading...20:08
arulmozhican  I live boot ubuntu 16.04 with usb to hdmi adapter, because I don't have display port on motherboard (asrock fatal1ty x99) and I acannot afford a graphics card at the moment?20:10
qwxleappf: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND all in capitals, somebody is serious about that...20:10
ppfqwxlea: yes, ignore that :D20:10
ppfthe files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d are used to make /etc/resolv.conf20:10
ppfthe warning is meant for that20:11
arulmozhihi can  I live boot ubuntu 16.04 with usb to hdmi adapter, because I don't have display port on motherboard (asrock fatal1ty x99) and I acannot afford a graphics card at the moment?20:11
qwxleappf: ah, ok ... trying20:12
mrhubrisjek1l_, for starters it's impossible to get into the whole thing20:12
mrhubrisjeit's asking for a password that i should have set when installing. Only, i didn't20:12
thething_911hey, had a look around but I can't find anything about my bluetooth, thing just keeps spinning, looking for devices. In order to progress to the next setup step, I need it to stop, but clicking on a list item doesn't seem to do anything. Anyone had this? Know where I should start poking around? Never really touched the BT before20:13
Herbalistwhen i want to Shutdown the computer i have to: 1) click on the "Shutdown..." menu, then a Dialog appears and i have to 2) click on the Shutdown button, then the Login window appears and 3) i have to again select the "Shutdown..." menu, then another Dialog pops up and 4) i have to again click on the Shutdown button .. only then does the computer finally shut down20:14
ppfHerbalist: type systemctl poweroff20:15
Herbalistppf thank you20:15
Herbalistin the terminal ?20:15
ppfyes20:15
ppfor in that command launcher thing, does that still exist in unity?20:15
ppfalt+f2 or so?20:15
tomreynlooks like he already succeeded20:16
ppf:D20:16
PipeItToDevNullJust "poweroff" should suffice20:16
ppfi'm not seeing quit messages ...20:16
tomreynhis "Remote host closed the connection"20:16
ppfI just hope his question wasn't 'how do i configure shutdown'20:16
tomreyn:)20:17
ppfPipeItToDevNull: yeah, that's an alias for systemctl poweroff20:17
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k1l_mrhubrisje: sudo mysql -u root20:18
Herbalistlol ppf .. i typed your command then the computer shut down at once :))20:19
mrhubrisjek1l_, ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'20:19
k1l_mrhubrisje: exactly that command?20:19
k1l_mrhubrisje: and you had mysql running before on that machine. so did you forget that passwort?20:19
mrhubrisjefyi, yes20:19
mrhubrisjenope20:19
qwxleappf: hmm, cannot restart dnsmasq: "Job for dnsmasq.service failed...etc" which leads to: "dnsmasq: directory /etc/resolv.conf for resolv-file is missing, cannot poll"20:20
mrhubrisjenew install20:20
ppfHerbalist: i hope that was what you intended :)20:20
mrhubrisjenever set a password20:20
Herbalisthehehe20:20
mrhubrisjei just ran this command: sudo mysql_secure_installation20:20
k1l_mrhubrisje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset20:20
mrhubrisjeand set a password20:20
mrhubrisjesame thing happens with both sudo mysql -u root and sudo mysql -u root -p20:21
ppfqwxlea: /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink. what did you do exactly?20:21
qwxleappf: i added "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head20:23
qwxleathe tried: sudo service dnsmasq restart20:24
darektest20:24
qwxleanow dnsmasq is failed, (dns still works, though)20:24
ppfwhat ubuntu are you on?20:25
distortedvoicehoary hedgehog20:26
gusgg_I'm checking out a list of packages that apt-get autoremove shows, and running apt-cache rdepends --installed on them, and finding reverse dependencies that are installed, like compiz. compiz is marked auto, but I'm pretty sure something that depends on compiz is not marked auto....20:26
qwxleappf: 16.1020:26
gusgg_for example, unity20:26
AyukawaTrying to set apache to automatically start on boot in ubuntu server 16.04LTS, but all I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876823/ . Any suggestions?20:26
ppfi don't have a dnsmasq.service on my system. where's this from?20:27
ppfprobably don't have dnsmasq installed20:27
ppfjust try reboot?20:27
qwxleappf: that sounds like a terrible solution ... let's try20:29
fedecupeGood evening, I'm looking for help on this matter (displaylink drive with kernel 4.9) http://askubuntu.com/questions/874558/cant-install-displaylink-driver-with-current-kernel20:30
qwxleappf: dns works, that is nice. dnsmasq refuses to start, but it obviously not being used20:33
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k1l_fedecupe: what if you add the "KVER=4.9" to that file manually?20:38
fedecupekil_ could try, but that is inside a .run20:39
fedecupek1l_ could try, but that is inside a .run, if i open it and look for "KVER" I can't find it :(20:42
ppfqwxlea: dnsmasq itself is something different. it's a standalone dns and dhcp server20:43
ppfbut networkmanager is providing an instance by itself, so no need to run it manually20:43
k1l_fedecupe: i think you will have to deal with the display link guys with that20:44
cotinanyone that can recommend ISPConfig ?20:45
Amm0nfedecupe, did you check the mentioned logfile /var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/make.log ?20:47
fedecupeAmm0n thing went like this: got the problem installed, posted on displaylink forum (attaching log), displaylink guys linked me to that thing on github --> i don't know how to use that thing :(20:48
__Yiotacould someone help me? https://bpaste.net/show/8bc390bdd82620:52
__YiotaI can't figure out why it won't work on this specific machine20:52
wedgie__Yiota: I don't have that package either... is a third party repo required?20:54
__Yiotasudo add-apt-repository \20:55
__Yiota       "deb https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/ \20:55
__Yiota       ubuntu-$(lsb_release -cs) \20:55
__Yiota       main"20:55
__Yiotai guess so20:55
baizonYiota: https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntu/20:55
wedgiedid you run ''apt-get update'' after?20:55
jose__hello20:56
k1l___Yiota: yes, that is a 3rd party repo. and you need to run "sudo apt update" after adding that repo20:57
__Yiotawhat is the uri for that repo?20:57
__Yiotahttps://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/ubuntu-trusty-main ?20:58
MonkeyDust__Yiota  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/20:58
k1l___Yiota: please run a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here20:58
__Yiotahttp://termbin.com/pg1f20:59
k1l___Yiota: you did not add that repo yet21:00
__Yiotaok, added21:00
k1l_then run sudo apt update. then try to install21:01
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Gippehelp21:02
Southern_GentlemGippe, we cant21:02
Gippehello21:03
MonkeyDustGippe  start with a question21:03
Gippeciao21:03
MonkeyDustGippe  it works, we see you21:03
cepriusBut no escile21:04
qwxleappf: thanks for your time, i'll look into it later21:04
BluesKajwait for it here comes the !list21:05
MonkeyDustif he says !list, i'll eat my shorts21:06
BluesKajhe's in italy, they think ubuntu is a file sharing chat21:06
jwlbryannick littl3s21:07
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Americanu_ubuntuherllo there21:08
Gippewhat are the commands?21:08
littl3s.exit21:09
MonkeyDustGippe  type   /help21:09
Americanu_ubuntuk1l_hey there21:09
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe, hello there21:09
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, welcome back21:09
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  thanks, i solved it finaly21:10
Americanu_ubuntui had to reinstall a driver21:10
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, awesome, so it seems it was a driver21:10
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  aparently yes21:11
GippeMENU21:12
Americanu_ubuntuit was a known issue on opensuse , k1l showed me21:12
GippeCLEAR21:13
MonkeyDustGippe  stop21:13
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, well I'm glad you managed to solve it. Otherwise everything working as planned?21:13
Americanu_ubuntudidnt get the time to testhonestly, i was on windows, playing overwatch21:13
Americanu_ubuntubut the system looks stable21:14
Gippe.exit21:15
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, great!21:16
MonkeyDustGippe  type   /part21:16
Toni0bonsoir21:16
heathenwolfeToni0, bonsoir21:17
Toni0Je suis newbie21:17
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  how are you tho21:17
heathenwolfeToni0, Vous avez une problème?21:18
MonkeyDust!fr | Toni021:18
ubottuToni0: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.21:18
MonkeyDustheathenwolfe  un problème21:18
Toni0haha sorry it's an english room21:19
ceprius!id21:19
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia21:19
Toni0did'nt see it21:19
* heathenwolfe switching back to english too21:19
Toni0Well, I don't think I have any problems21:19
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, everything fine here. I'm only running a few Ubuntu servers so they are happy doing their job21:20
MonkeyDustToni0  this is ubuntu support, for nice social chat, type   /j #ubuntu-offtopic21:21
Toni0I L37 U GUJ5, 8Y3 !21:21
Onepamopaoh dear ..21:21
tsimonq2Ubuntu Zesty Zapus Alpha 2 has been released!21:23
Lavinhogood night21:24
Herbalisthow long had he been in prison ?21:24
Lavinhospeedtouch 330 ubuntu 14.04 ?21:24
Herbalistgnight21:24
Lavinhopossible ?21:24
cepriusnight night21:24
OnepamopaHerbalist, couple of years21:25
Onepamopathey caught him smoking weed21:25
Herbalistlavinho..i have 16.04 already21:25
Herbalistlol one21:25
Onepamopa;)21:25
Onepamopaspeaking of, I'll roll21:26
Herbalistlavinho .. but it's not a competition or so21:26
Herbalistgood idea one .. same here21:26
Onepamopajust make sure you don't ROW !21:26
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  why do you run them for ? just basic use ?21:27
OnepamopaHerbalist, root-on-weed ))21:28
Herbalistroots takin over21:29
HerbalistStudy finds dogs are happiest listening to Reggae Music   ---   https://www.sott.net/article/340846-Study-finds-dogs-are-happiest-listening-to-reggae-and-soft-rock21:30
Herbalistnatty knew21:30
k1l_Herbalist: Onepamopa please continue the chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic . this is for ubuntu support only21:30
Herbalistsorry21:30
Onepamopak1l_, don't worry, I'll be /off shortly ;)21:30
Herbalist#ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services21:31
k1l_!register | Herbalist21:31
ubottuHerbalist: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.21:31
Herbalisti'm not registered21:31
Herbalistyea but my nick is taken21:31
Herbalistby someone else21:31
wedgiethen it's not really your nick, is it?21:32
Herbalistyeah it's my common nick on many sites21:32
Herbalistits' my identity21:32
wedgieanyway, that's not something we can help you with21:32
k1l_Herbalist: then join #freenode to sort that issue with the staff.21:32
Herbalistright .. thanks kil21:33
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Americanu_ubuntuis there a reason why my software center is not starting at all ?21:40
Herbalistyes21:41
Herbalistbut i dunno which reason21:41
Herbalisti suggest updating and upgrading21:42
rifterI am having trouble getting to the ubuntuforums .. when I log in with SSO that part works, and I am properly identified. The page says it will pass the information to ubuntuforums.org  ... but once it does, I get error 403 FORBIDDEN You don't have permission to access /login.php on this server."21:42
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: which software center are you trying to start?21:43
rifterI think I had the same problem before and never solved it. I was trying to remember why I hadn't been in there with my questions, and now I realize that was why21:43
Americanu_ubuntuwell its name is "ubuntu software "21:43
k1l_rifter: there is #ubuntuforums with issues with their website21:44
Americanu_ubuntui installed another package called uubntu software center21:44
k1l_*for issues21:44
Americanu_ubuntuubuntu* and aparently that one starts properly i guess nacc21:44
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: don't use 'ubuntu software centre', iirc, it's deprecated21:44
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: you want to use the gnome softare center (or something similar)21:45
rifterthank you k1l_ I will go there21:45
Americanu_ubuntuhmm alright ill install that nacc21:45
piano-noviceI am learning how to use IRC in order to root my cell phone with lineageos but am unable to establish a password which I need to join the lineageos.21:47
Americanu_ubuntunacc , i think i installed it, what's it's name in launcher?21:47
piano-noviceI am a long-time LINUX user but don't know IRC21:47
wedgiepiano-novice: sounds like a question for #freenode21:48
k1l_!register | piano-novice21:48
ubottupiano-novice: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.21:48
Onepamopa-NickServ- piano-novice has NOT COMPLETED registration verification21:48
Onepamopayou need to register your nickname first21:48
Onepamopafor more info /msg nickserv help21:48
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: 'software'?21:50
Americanu_ubuntunacc "software & updates" ?21:50
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: no, that's the settings for apt, iirc21:50
piano-novice-Onepamopa- thanks.  I have been trying to use /msg nickserv to register but am informed I can't.  I'll try /msg nickserv help.21:51
dSaXXonPtest21:53
groundze2owot playonlinux doenst work21:54
groundze2ogreat21:54
rifterdSaXXonP, we see you .. do you have a question?21:54
dSaXXonPno21:55
Herbalisti still use the Ubuntu Software Center regularly .. it works fine and it was recently updated21:55
dSaXXonPthx21:55
rifterreally, groundze2o ?  Do you have the latest WINE? What is not working?21:55
Americanu_ubuntunacc i think i installed it incorectly then21:56
FManChrome has become unresponsive!!21:57
OerHekssoftwarecenter gives metapackages, synaptic is more detailed21:57
rifterI am on a new install of lubuntu 16.10 .. I want to install 32 bit libraries so I can install something that requires them. That used to be simple, but when I tried on xubuntu 14.04 I ran into roadblocks. Now that I have a more recent version, I am hoping to revisit this problem and get it going21:57
Herbalistyes but Synaptic requires password to open .. so i only use it in cases of emergency21:58
rifterOerHeks, I'm a big fan of synaptic as well. I usually use command line apt, but I use synaptic to update the kernel and to search for stuff when it takes me too many tries to find it in apt-cache search21:58
OerHekspassword in advance, indeed.21:58
piano-novice-Onepamopa- when I try  /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com with my choice of pword and my email address, I get from NickServ: piano-novice is already registered.21:58
rifterSoftware Center doesn't need authentication? That sounds like a security problem to me21:59
Herbalistpiano i also have that same problem with my nick Herbalist !21:59
OerHeksrifter, it does, after selecting a package21:59
EriC^^piano-novice: check your email for the verification code21:59
Americanu_ubuntunacc i can't find the software app.. isn't it sudo apt-get install gnome-software ?21:59
rifterpiano-novice, you'll get better help for that in #freenode .. type /j #freenode  to go there21:59
Americanu_ubuntunacc i mean the software install link21:59
rifteroh right yeah check for that22:00
Herbalistit's a orange suitcase with a white letter A inside22:00
Americanu_ubuntuthe gnome one ?22:02
groundze2orifter world of tanks..downloads everything but won't start22:02
groundze2oi downloaded 2.x wine trough playonlinux22:02
riftergroundze2o, you may want to check WINE 's AppDB .. that site tends to have things that you need to do. I have historically used just wine as opposed to PlayonLinux .. winetricks is a package you are gonna want to have too22:03
piano-novice-rifter- Thanks for the advice.  I did not find any msg with a verification code in my email but may have missed it.  I'll try joining freenode.22:03
HerbalistAmericanu_ubuntu.. try this command:   sudo apt-get install software-center*22:03
Herbalistwith asterisk22:04
rifteralthough usually I would use a PPA for WINE and download the latest winetricks22:04
EriC^^piano-novice: check your junk mail22:04
Americanu_ubuntuhearbalist , what does the asterisk do?and it says that it's already installed22:04
nicomachusnautilus won't open...22:04
groundze2oso uninstall playonlinux? rifter22:05
Herbalistasterisk means any string22:05
nicomachusand there's no verbose option to get error messages from terminal output. urgh.22:05
riftergroundze2o, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11544  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3162722:05
Herbalistso all packages beginning with that name are installed22:05
Americanu_ubuntuaaah22:06
piano-novice-EriC- I don't strip out junk mail so I should have seen any marked as junk22:06
rifternah you don't have to uninstall it. PlayonLinux as I recall just tries to make it easier for a novice to use WINE22:06
Bray90820What would be a good way to automatically change permissions of a file I am thinking a bash script with chmod22:06
Americanu_ubuntustrange :/ then probably it's already installed22:06
HerbalistAmericanu_ubuntu.. check this site:   https://launchpad.net/software-center22:06
Herbalistlatest download version is 13.10 .. on the right22:07
rifterBray90820, that would probably work .. how automatically you want it to be will determine how you write it22:07
tatertotsBryanstein: how about making sure the file is created with the desired permissions from conception.......22:07
tatertotsBryanstein: then no modification would be required22:08
Bray90820rifter: Basically I just wanted "chmod 755 /media/data/Recorded_TV" to happen every dat at like 10PM so would I just write a bash script and put it in crom?22:08
Americanu_ubuntuaah thanks22:08
Americanu_ubuntuis there a way to delete/uninstall the curent package so that i can reinstall the website one?22:09
naccHerbalist: i have no idea what you're talking about, but that is absolutely incorrect22:09
naccHerbalist: 13.10 was release in *2013* and is not current, by any means22:10
Americanu_ubuntureally? ohh22:10
naccHerbalist: xenial ships 16.01+16.04.20160420, e.g22:10
Americanu_ubuntunacc , so how can i install the latest one then?22:10
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: latest one of what?22:10
Americanu_ubuntugnome software22:11
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: software-center or gnome-software?22:11
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: `apt install gnome-software` ?22:11
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, the software you can pull depends on the repositories you have configured22:11
hoshihello all22:11
Herbalistnacc sorry it was stated on that page from launchpad22:11
hoshiafter glxinfo i get that error - Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig22:11
naccHerbalist: you have to understand *what* that page is saying.22:12
Herbalistnacc on the right it says "Downloads22:12
HerbalistLatest version is 13.10 "22:12
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, if it's installed, you can check the version with $ dpkg -l | grep gnome-software22:12
Americanu_ubuntunacc you said that i should use a gnome software center earlier22:12
jackNemrodanyone use a preseed file to install ubuntu ?22:12
hoshii heard amdgpu-pro driver can work with iGPU primary (i need it for clover bootloader) ;)22:12
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: yes, 'gnome-software'22:12
groundze2ook trying to do it with wine onl22:13
groundze2ott22:13
naccjackNemrod: many people do (or have)22:13
Americanu_ubuntuit says its already installed22:13
naccHerbalist: yes, that is referring to marked release tarballs, which are not used any more22:13
Herbalistaight22:13
Herbalistty nacc22:13
naccAmericanu_ubuntu: ok, start it with `gnome-software` then22:14
Americanu_ubuntunacc it doesnt boot up anythin22:14
jackNemrodnacc: i m tryng to put /boot on /dev/sda and use whole disk /dev/sdb for / in LVM ... but i need an expert :p22:15
naccjackNemrod: what have you tried?22:15
Americanu_ubuntubrb ill reboot ubuntu, probably that will fix it22:17
jackNemrodnacc: http://pastebin.com/auN01Nfa22:18
Herbalistusing 16.04 .. i didnt know there was a new software-center called ubuntu-software22:19
Americanu_ubuntuim back, nacc it still doesnt boot up gnome-software22:19
Herbalistwb Americanu_ubuntu22:20
naccjackNemrod: and what happens?22:20
Americanu_ubuntuthx herbalist22:20
k1l_there were some guys reporting a broken software-center22:20
Americanu_ubuntuwhere k1l_ ?22:20
jackNemrodnacc: "You asked 577 Mb to be used for guided partitionning, but the selected partitionning requires at least 5.1Gb"22:22
nacck1l_: and note that software-center has been removed from zesty22:23
k1l_nacc: uh. wasnt that just switched to in favor of the old ubuntu-software-center ?22:24
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, just for reference $ gnome-software does start up fine here22:24
nacck1l_: src:software-center is "Ubuntu Softare Center"; src:gnome-software is the supported, preferred, "Gnome Software"22:25
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  on my system it doesnt start at all :( am i the only one unlucky22:25
k1l_nacc: the gnome thing is named ubuntu-software the old one is the one with center in name22:26
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: "ls ~/.local/share/gnome-software/" show what?22:26
Americanu_ubuntunacc , 2 files install-queue  ubuntu-reviews.db22:27
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, I'm using livecd, just one file ubuntu-reviews.db22:27
nacck1l_: oh i see it now, you're right, 'software center' has been fully removed and now there are the two both provided by src:gnome-software22:27
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  hmmm so why isnt it starting ?22:28
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: mv ~/.local/share/gnome-software/install-queue ~/.local/share/gnome-software/install-queue.old22:28
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: after that try again to open it22:29
Americanu_ubuntuit says no such file or directory ? is that a folder then ?22:29
Americanu_ubuntuk1l_,  "mv: cannot stat '/home/americanu/.local/share/gnome-software/install-queue': No such file or directory22:29
Americanu_ubuntu"22:29
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, I'm guessing it's a file22:30
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe hmmm should i rename it then22:30
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, mv is for renaming...22:31
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: hmm, i dont know what broken there22:31
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: "mv .local/share/gnome-software/install-queue .local/share/gnome-software/install-queue.old" try that22:31
Americanu_ubuntunow it made it old22:32
Americanu_ubuntulike .old22:32
k1l_ok, so try again to open it.22:32
Americanu_ubuntuyes now it works22:32
Americanu_ubuntuthanks22:33
k1l_(i dont know why the shell doesnt like the 2 paths with ~)22:33
cfhowlettnice one k1l_22:33
Americanu_ubuntuwelll i guess ubuntu is odd22:33
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, not Ubuntu's fault22:33
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  ahh22:34
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, sounds like shell config22:34
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  well at least it got sorted again, thanks22:35
jackNemrodnacc: ?22:35
Americanu_ubuntui had an linux distro years ago and it moved so slow because of my shitty pc specs, i just quit to try it22:35
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, did you try mv'ing stuff already in Ubuntu?22:36
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  mv-ing ? like renaming?22:36
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, yes, or does the error only happen on the install-queue file?22:37
barnitogoing to try ubuntu under windows22:37
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  well i didnt rename anything, like i said, i didnt get to use ubuntu since last night when internet got sorted22:37
k1l_well, looks like the gnome software center doesnt like the packagekit usage? i dont know. looks like this bug was triggered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/160623822:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1606238 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software won't open" [Critical,Triaged]22:37
k1l_heathenwolfe: its a bug for this gnome software which cant handle when its losing internet connection.22:38
Americanu_ubuntuk1l_,  that's what happened on my side too, launcher reacted on it when i clicked but nothing happened, and in terminal it gave no feedback on gnome-software22:38
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: should be sorted now22:39
Americanu_ubuntuyeah cheers again guys :D22:39
naccjackNemrod: i wonder if you're not clearing the disks during the install, so it's only using whatever free space remains on them as currently formatted?22:40
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heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, congrats, maybe this one was due to yesterday's connectivity issues?22:43
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  probably to be honest lol, i dont know22:43
jackNemrodnacc: the VM is fresh22:43
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  you and k1l_  know the better reason , i was just doing the stuff you two told me22:43
k1l_heathenwolfe: yes, the gnome software seems to have issues with not working or closing internetconnections.22:44
naccjackNemrod: i'm not sure sorry22:45
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, Honestly, props to k1l_. I'm just noob22:46
Americanu_ubuntuheathenwolfe,  nah ,you tried to help as well, so i appreciate both your help22:47
Americanu_ubuntudoes amd still not have support for ubuntu btw?22:47
OerHeksstill not have?22:48
k1l_Americanu_ubuntu: it had always support for ubuntu22:48
heathenwolfeAmericanu_ubuntu, hop over to private chat if you want22:48
k1l_its just that the people didnt like the support22:48
Americanu_ubuntuohhh22:48
Americanu_ubuntualright22:48
k1l_in the end, the more open source driver should be better than the full binary solution fglrx was before.22:49
Americanu_ubuntufair enough lol22:51
avieksbefore i could mount network shares at boot, not any more. odd?22:52
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avieksdns nor ip works22:56
cc-rnick cooc23:03
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hoshihow to get acceleration/glxgears working on second monitor when using iGPU primary, ubuntu 16.10 and rx480?23:03
matti;]23:10
Americanu_ubuntuso k1l_  what are you up to23:15
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ragecrazehey guys, i tried ubuntu alot of times but i had problems with wifi not connecting most of the time on it, i want to try linux again, what distrubution should i get that has all the drivers and should work with my card_23:19
k1l_ragecraze: since you ask here: try ubuntu23:22
k1l_ragecraze: and if you know what card you got you can look what to do to get it working23:22
ragecrazek1l_ how do i find my card type in windows 10?23:26
k1l_ragecraze: uh, look in the hardware manager or get a tool that displays that information23:26
ragecrazeill try that brb23:27
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hwpplayer1http://askubuntu.com/questions/875327/fixing-incorrect-gpu-detection/876242#876242 what should be the answer of this question ?23:33
hwpplayer1i wrote something but our moderator has deleted it23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDhi23:40
dodge29 23:49
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qihOn Ubuntu16.06/AMD64, I've just installed (I think) python-gmplot, the Python 3 ver of gmplot *but* I can't execute it. In fact, there is no "man" or "info" nor an executable. wtf?23:53
naccqih: the python3 version would be called python3-gmplot23:55
naccqih: but also, i'm not sure why you think there would be an executable for a python library?23:55
qihnacc: Not an executable per se, but it does not work, if I type "python-gmplot" or "gmplot" etc23:56
naccqih: right, why would you think it would? have you used python before?23:57
naccqih: https://github.com/vgm64/gmplot you may want to read how to use it in a python program (which is what a python{,3}- package tends to be for)23:57
qihPython before yes, but aren't most programs capable of being executed from cli?23:58
qihnacc: That is written for Python.723:58
naccqih: python libraries/modules aren't programs. Seems like a very basic python question.23:58
qihPython2.7*23:58
naccqih: it doesn't matter.23:58
qihnacc: OK, I'll correct that incorrect version first23:59
naccqih: both python-gmplot and python3-gmplot are just python modules, they are not 'programs'. You import them into your python program and use them. Much like libraries in C.23:59

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