[00:00] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, protip: # means run command as root, $ means run as normal user. My fault on this one i didn't mention to sudo stuff like systemctl
[00:00] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe, oh i didnt knew that # and $ have those meanings
[00:01] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, for the record starting, stopping, enabling, disabling services via systemctl require root typically
[00:01] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: well, that is just a workaround. but please show the output of "grep r8169 /etc/modprobe.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" from another opened terminal (let the update run to the end on the first terminal)
[00:01] <Americanu_ubuntu> aaah
[00:01] <Americanu_ubuntu> it says "use netcat"
[00:02] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: ok, that means no output. thats ok
[00:02] <Americanu_ubuntu> ah
[00:02] <peyam> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23872149/
[00:04] <Bashing-om> peyam: Well. it is not that either, as "you" do have the authority . Can you boot to the GUI from the guest account ?
[00:04] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, nothing in the ip route means your pc doesn't find a way out of the local network towards the internet.
[00:05] <peyam> Bashing-om: it does go so long. the first i see is the logo and it goes away after 1 sec then black screen
[00:05] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, and when it doesn't get an ip address then it's sth with connectivity
[00:05] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe, ah alright but would it be like an issue with network manager ?
[00:06] <Bashing-om> peyam: This ^ in the guest account too ?
[00:06] <peyam> Bashing-om: It never go to "select" account
[00:06] <peyam> Bashing-om: never shows it
[00:07] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, well connectivity issues it's either physical (bad cables, connectors) or software/firmware (drivers) or wrong configuration in NetworkManager
[00:07] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: when the update is done without errors, i suggest you do a reinstall and see if the new kernel works better. if it doesnt work, do "sudo service network-manager restart" again.
[00:07] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe, fair enough lol
[00:07] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, since you tried w10, it's not the physical part
[00:08] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l,  a reinstall of what, sorry?
[00:08] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: sorry. reboot. not reinstall
[00:08] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l oh alright haha i got scared a bit lol , yeah will do as soon as it's done
[00:08] <Bashing-om> peyam: Do not know then for sure . this is a xubuntu install of 14.04, correct ?
[00:09] <peyam> Bashing-om: it's been installed and worked good in 2 years
[00:09] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, when you upgraded the pc it might have installed a new kernel, reboot to load the new kernel into ram
[00:09] <k1l> the updates should have installed a new kernel build. and that could be fixing that issue already. if not we have some other solutions
[00:09] <Americanu_ubuntu> thank god for you two k1l heathenwolfe
[00:10] <Americanu_ubuntu> as soon as it finishes ill reboot it :d
[00:10] <Guest5402> is a old nvidia 6200 supported in 16.04?
[00:10] <Bashing-om> peyam: xubuntu ? we can reset the desktop to defaults . but you loose all your own config changes .
[00:10] <peyam> Bashing-om: I have no problem with that. Just need my thesis files. thats all
[00:10] <mike_602> what's the difference between apt update and apt upgrade?
[00:11] <k1l> mike_602: update only gets the list with new packages from the servers but doesnt install anything
[00:11] <duncenerd> I am trying to use iptables to change the destination IP in the header prior to routing across a VPN to reach a subnet that doesn't have routing, but it's not working
[00:11] <mike_602> If I only want packages from 16.04.1 LTS, should I not do apt upgrade or? Because when I update via the GUI and right away go to update via command line w/ upgrade, it finds more updates?
[00:12] <Americanu_ubuntu> right ill brbr
[00:12] <duncenerd> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 172.16.16.16 -j DNAT --to-dest 10.10.10.10
[00:12] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-394 xenial | Guest5402
[00:12] <mike_602> k1l, apt update will inform if any updates though and will ask you y/n if want those right? so, I don't get it :( lol
[00:12] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-304 xenial | Guest5402
[00:12] <duncenerd> and also a POSTROUTING SNAT statement
[00:12] <k1l> mike_602: you need to run apt upgrade to install the updates.
[00:12] <duncenerd> does anyone have any ideas why it may not be working?
[00:13] <bazhang> #netfilter duncenerd
[00:13] <k1l> mike_602: no. open a terminal and run "sudo apt update" you will see the servers that are asked for the packages lists. nothing more
[00:13] <mike_602> k1l, so how come when I update via GUI and then update via command line right after w/ apt update && apt upgrade it finds more updates? Is it just an issue w/ the GUI that doesn't catch the updates or those commands doing more than the GUI?
[00:14] <Bashing-om> peyam: try then ' rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ ' reboot to see if that helps .
[00:14] <k1l> mike_602: it should not be a difference.
[00:15] <zuiss1> anyone know why the ubuntu installer gives an option to use the whole disk and set up encrypted lvm, but then later in the installation process it asks you if you want to encrypt your home directory? why does it ask you that if you already chose encryption earlier?
[00:15] <mike_602> k1l, it is though as I've noticed all this week and on 2 different computers both with Ubuntu Unity 16.04.1. Should try it sometime to see what I'm talking about :) It's weird
[00:15] <k1l> zuiss1: the first one is LUKS, the second one is encrypted home partition.
[00:15] <Americanu> K1l now that sudo command wont work
[00:16] <Americanu> Im on phone now
[00:16] <Americanu> I mean it wonr re-establish connection
[00:16] <peyam> Bashing-om: Nothing happened
[00:16] <k1l> Americanu: what exactly? sudo service network-manager restart
[00:16] <Americanu> Yup that one k1l
[00:16] <Americanu> I woud of typed it but my phone is slow
[00:17] <peyam> Bashing-om: is there any way to reinstall or install 16.04 without loosing my files?
[00:17] <Guest5402> Thx, is there a viable usb 'external video card' that would work or are those any good? ive not tried one
[00:17] <k1l> mike_602: the gui updater does show you once a or two weeks the updates notification. only earlier if its security related. maybe you mean that.
[00:18] <zuiss1> k1l: but if you choose LUKS it still asks if you want to encrypt home. but the first option should have already encrypted home
[00:18] <zuiss1> so it will be double encryption or something?
[00:19] <mike_602> k1l, I run the GUI updater every time I turn on my computer, fully update that way. Then I run sudo apt udpate && sudo apt upgrade and it finds more packages to install
[00:19] <k1l> Americanu: ok, i will make the bot link you a howto for "nomodeset". use the "one time on grub" version. but dont add "nomodeset" but this commands there" net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0". then boot that changes and see if that works
[00:19] <mike_602> zuiss1, maybe the first encryption is for root only? not 100% sure
[00:19] <zuiss1> mike_602: i doubt it
[00:20] <k1l> zuiss1: its both different methods with differen pro and contra.
[00:20] <k1l> zuiss1: if you make both, the user data is encrypted again, so once the system is booted (and luks decrypted) the home folders of the users are still safe.
[00:21] <k1l> zuiss1: its more about what state or workcase for what encryption method
[00:21] <Americanu> Yeah if you tell me what to get and how to do it k1l
[00:21] <k1l> Americanu: sorry :)
[00:21] <k1l> !nomodeset | Americanu
[00:22] <zuiss1> k1l: does the second option to just encrypt home not use LUKS?
[00:22] <mike_602> Getting root access to Ubuntu via the Grub, is that still possible? If so, that's not too cool :( Anyone read about that before?
[00:22] <k1l> Americanu: do the temporarily method with the other command i gave you instead of nomodeset
[00:22] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, k1l it's getting late here... good luck with further debugging. I hope it works out for you
[00:22] <Americanu> So i only add those net.ifnames and biosdevname?
[00:22] <k1l> zuiss1: no, that is not LUKS
[00:23] <Americanu> Sure then heathenwolfe  thanks for helping tho!
[00:23] <k1l> Americanu: with the numbers
[00:23] <k1l> net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
[00:23] <Bashing-om> peyam: U have not sone so, but I do understand that in the reinsall (something else) if one unchecks the 'format" option for /home then your personal data will not be overwritten . But we are not to that stage yet !
[00:23] <zuiss1> so should i choose to also encrypt home directory even if i chose to use LUKS earlier?
[00:24] <zuiss1> what's the downsides?
[00:24] <k1l> zuiss1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[00:25] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, well it didn't solve anything. When computers cooperate Ubuntu connects automatically to the internet, seems sth funny is happening under the hood.
[00:26] <Americanu> Yeah i know heathenwolfe . You still tried which I appreciate!
[00:29] <Americanu> K1l so should i just add the sudo command at end of grub thing?
[00:29] <k1l> Americanu: no
[00:29] <Americanu> Oh those 2 params
[00:30] <Americanu> ?
[00:30] <k1l> follow the instructions for temporarily adding nomodeset. but instead adding net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
[00:30] <k1l> with =0
[00:30] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, you're welcome. Now you know for next laptop, look for Intel networking cards
[00:30] <Americanu> Ahh
[00:30] <Americanu> Its a pc desktop heathenwolfe  :d
[00:31] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, when buying next motherboard or desktop
[00:31] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, sorry...
[00:32] <Americanu> Heathenwolfe Aah ok will do ! And dont worry :d
[00:32] <Zythyr> Is it possible to reclaim free space from a NTFS file system in order to isntall Ubuntu on it?
[00:32] <k1l> Zythyr: yes. you can shrink the partition
[00:32] <heathenwolfe> Americanu, cheers & good luck
[00:32] <Americanu> Thx goodnight mate
[00:33] <Zythyr> k1l Do I just do it in Gparted on Ubuntu Live CD?
[00:33] <k1l> Zythyr: yes
[00:33] <Zythyr> Ahh okay that sounds simple.
[00:33] <k1l> Zythyr: but the installer should offer you that aswell "install alongside windows"
[00:34] <Zythyr> ahh okay let me try that
[00:34] <Zythyr> What if do manual configuration. How do I make sure booting occurs properly
[00:35] <Americanu> K1l added that 2 params with =0
[00:35] <Americanu> Its booting up now
[00:36] <Americanu> K1l so still no network :(
[00:36] <k1l> Americanu: does "sudo service network-manager restart" work?
[00:37] <Americanu> K1l nope aparently
[00:38] <Americanu> K1l It says ethernet network disconnected
[00:40] <Americanu> Any other solutions?
[00:41] <k1l> Americanu: is "ifconfig" listing "eth0" as device?
[00:41] <Americanu> Yes
[00:41] <yalopov> guys hi
[00:41] <yalopov> heeeelp
[00:42] <yalopov> i don't know what to do this problem is annoying aaaa
[00:42] <Americanu> K1l eth0 is there and that enp3s0 is not there anymore
[00:42] <yalopov> im using ppas from launchpad and they're so fucking slow
[00:42] <yalopov> :'(
[00:42] <nacc> !language | yalopov
[00:42] <yalopov> sorry
[00:42] <k1l> Americanu: ok, that was the idea behind changing that settings in grub for this try.
[00:43] <k1l> Americanu: does "sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off" make any changes?
[00:43] <nacc> yalopov: afaik, there's no guarantee that PPAs be fast
[00:43] <yalopov> i'm pinging ppa.launchpad.net but it seems ok, using httping shows like 500ms
[00:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> uhm
[00:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> actually
[00:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> i kind of got it to work with changing the ethernet connection from enp3s0 to eth0
[00:43] <yalopov> i'm currently dowloading at  8.838 kB/s
[00:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> like the device tab k1l
[00:44] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: please show a "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:44] <yalopov> i mean, thats too slow, on cannonical repos i get like 400 kb/s
[00:44] <Americanu_ubuntu> http://termbin.com/hxl1
[00:44] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: i am not sure not if that will work with settings those grub parameters permanently or if this was just luck now :)
[00:45] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l should i type that sudo ethtool ?
[00:45] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l aaah
[00:45] <BluPhenix316> hi guys, where do you save your xorg.conf when using nvidia-settings? I've tried saving it to /etc/X11 and /usr/share/X11 but the settings aren't applied when rebooting
[00:48] <Bashing-om> BluPhenix316: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf . But the use of this file is depreciated except for "special" use cases .
[00:48] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: ok, i have to leave now. but i will show you some bits: test with reboot with setting the parameters again on grub. if that works again, then you can follow the howto to make that permanent.
[00:48] <BluPhenix316> Bashing-om, yeah that hasn't worked either
[00:48] <BluPhenix316> as i mentioned previously
[00:48] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l should i try first without those params?
[00:49] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: you should make sure that its not set to "enable wake on lan" on windows. that card seems to have a lot of issues when switching from windows and linux back and forth.
[00:49] <wafflejock> BluPhenix316, you on 16.04?
[00:49] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l ill double check it on w10
[00:49] <BluPhenix316> wafflejock, 16.10
[00:49] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l thanks a lot, you and heathenwolfe gave me hope on trying ubuntu lol
[00:49] <Bashing-om> BluPhenix316: Beats me so far, what is the end goal here ?
[00:50] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: if that all doesnt work: do install "r8168-dkms" on ubuntu when you somehow manage  to get internet again.
[00:50] <BluPhenix316> i've tried saving to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf but X doesn't use those files anymore
[00:50] <Americanu_ubuntu> ok
[00:50] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: first run with those parameters again in grub (one time solution)
[00:50] <BluPhenix316> Bashing-om, I have 2 monitors, but i'm trying to arrange them so the monitor on my left is displayed as the monitor on my life
[00:50] <BluPhenix316> i can do it via nvidia-settings, but it doesn't persist across reboots
[00:51] <k1l> Americanu_ubuntu: if that works, then make it the permanent solution from the howto. that would be easy one. no matter check on windows if you have enabled wake on lan. that must be off.
[00:51] <Americanu_ubuntu> ok i will do that k1l
[00:51] <Americanu_ubuntu> ill do them now actually
[00:51] <Americanu_ubuntu> thanks a lot for the help k1l
[00:52] <k1l> this is opensuse but it shows, that the card is the issue: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Realtek_8169_driver_problem
[00:52] <k1l> bye :)
[00:52] <Bashing-om> BluPhenix316: Sorry, no experience with dual monitors . No ideas .
[00:52] <Americanu_ubuntu> bye bye :D
[00:52] <BluPhenix316> i have ran into this in the past, i know you save xorg.conf somewhere in /usr
[00:52] <BluPhenix316> i just can't remember where
[00:53] <BluPhenix316> i've tried /usr/share/X11 but that hasn't worked for me, i wonder if it is /usr/lib/X11
[00:53] <BluPhenix316> that seems silly but i dunno
[00:54] <wafflejock> BluPhenix316, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/yakkety/man5/xorg.conf.5.html has the list of paths it searches there
[00:54] <Zythyr> How do I ensure my Ubuntu doesn't install in EFI mode
[00:55] <wafflejock> BluPhenix316, thought it searched somewhere in ~/.config/ in recent versions but not seeing anything about that
[00:55] <BluPhenix316> wafflejock, yeah that is what is throwing me
[00:55] <BluPhenix316> it should work in any of the locations i have it saved
[00:55] <BluPhenix316> but it isn't
[00:57] <Australopithecus> Hello I am running ubuntu mate 16.1 with kabby lake intel GPU, and my computer has crashed and the screen is flickering with blocks of colours (looks really broken) anyways I have tried alt+prnt screen REISUB and it isnt working
[00:57] <Australopithecus> is there a safe method to reboot other than that?
[00:57] <Zythyr> I am isntalling Ubuntu 16 using a USB drive. How do I prevent UEFI install? I want to do a regular BIOS compability install
[00:57] <Australopithecus> as I dont want to hard reset if I dont have to
[00:59] <php> Hey
[00:59] <php> I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my home server and cannot resolve DNS
[00:59] <wafflejock> Australopithecus, can you get to a tty with Ctrl+Alt+F1 if so can do sudo reboot, or sudo shutdown now, I think not sure if that works if your other attempt didn't though
[00:59] <php> my /etc/resolv.conf contains 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 nameservers
[00:59] <wafflejock> php, you try using nslookup or dig to see what's going on?
[00:59] <Australopithecus> i cannot
[01:00] <Australopithecus> the screen is kind of going black now
[01:00] <Australopithecus> @wafflejack
[01:00] <wafflejock> Australopithecus, sorry that's the best I know of if you can't get a terminal at all think you have to hard reset
[01:00] <wafflejock> maybe someone else has another option though
[01:00] <php> wafflejock, connection timed out
[01:01] <php> this is weird
[01:03] <php> wafflejock, now it's saying Server 127.0.1.1
[01:04] <php> No idea where that's from since I removed it from /run/resolvconf/<something here>
[01:04] <tatertots> it kinda tells you exactly where it's from if you read the top of the file
[01:05] <php> tatertots, it doesn't
[01:06] <tatertots> so your resolv.conf doesnt inform you that your changes will be overwritten and not to hand edit the file?
[01:06] <tatertots> it doesn't ?...wanna look again
[01:06] <php> It says that.
[01:06] <php> But it doesn't say where it's from.
[01:07] <tatertots> you know where that info is coming from
[01:07] <php> I've checked on it now and it seems that /run/resolvconf/interface/NetworkManager is being populated with 127.0.1.1
[01:07] <php> tatertots, please don't treat me like an idiot.
[01:08] <tatertots> i don't name call
[01:08] <php> I didn't name call.
[01:08] <php> "please don't treat me like an idiot" means "please don't treat me as if you think I am an idiot"
[01:08] <tatertots> just fyi your router
[01:09] <php> blagh read your message wrong
[01:09] <php> ironic considering I don't want to be called an idiot
[01:09] <php> lol
[01:09] <wafflejock> php, if you do dig +trace www.google.com, it should show you basically the whole path to get that resolved
[01:10] <nooobbb> hello
[01:10] <nooobbb> can anyone help me?
[01:10] <wafflejock> not sure why you're seeing 127.0.1.1 there though can pastebin what you're seeing too somewhere that'd probably help, not sure how much I can help with the actual DNS config though I just stumble my way through it
[01:10] <nooobbb> I'm trying to install ubuntu
[01:10] <nooobbb> but the USB won't boot
[01:11] <cpufreqd> hello, when booting i saw an error message looked further and it is the cpu frequency daemon that's causing trouble. I've had a couple of slowdowns that I'm blaming on the cpu so it is more than likely related, any help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23872397/
[01:13] <php> wafflejock, I think the network config is screwed now. Can't ping any IPs anymore.
[01:14] <php> wafflejock, fixed it
[01:14] <php> had to legit turn off my network and turn it back on
[01:14] <php> :D
[01:22] <MarkB2> I'm about to start an attempt to install the "official" NVidia driver for my Ubuntu 16.04.1 64-bit installation.  It wants me to exit the X server.. and I'm embarrased to say I don't know how to log out and terminate the server to get just a login prompt.
[01:22] <MarkB2> Every time I log out.. or kill the server manually, it gets restarted and >poof< I've been 'X'ed again.
  Apologies.  Think I found it.  Sorry.
[01:29] <Mahpoul22> how did you do?
[01:29] <Mahpoul22> @MarkB2
[01:32] <olympionex> I'm having trouble running snap try with snap/snapd vs 2.21 on 16.04.  The confinement is specified as classic and when I run snap try --classic or snap try --devmode, I still get the error that it requires consent to use classic confinement
[01:33] <olympionex> I searched to see if this was a bug, but I didn't see it if it is
[01:33] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone.  I am having to seriously consider installing 32-bit instead of 64-bit Ubuntu because my EFI is 32 bit.  Do I lose a lot by doing that?  (I have 3 gigs of RAM)
[01:34] <cfhowlett> your efi is 32 bit?!  did know that was even possible
[01:34] <Richard_Cavell> 2006 iMac
[01:34] <olympionex> sorry, i was in wrong channel
[01:35] <cfhowlett> Richard_Cavell, strongly suggest your consult the mac specific resources.   /msg ubottu mac
[01:36] <Bashing-om> olympionex: #snappy ??
[01:36] <olympionex> Bashing-om: yes, for some reason my /join didn't work and I didn't realize i was just in default channel
[01:37] <Bashing-om> olympionex: :) No harm no foul .
[01:38] <jayjo> my machine boots straight into gnu grub, how do I repair from here? ls lists drives
[01:40] <jayjo> The possible commands do not look helpful. Is this drive corrupted? how did that happen?
[01:41] <doublejane> jayjo: do ur bios support EFI Shell?
[01:41] <jayjo> I can try to boot into it
[01:42] <doublejane> yep then find out the ubuntu EFI file and see if it can boot successfuly
[01:43] <jayjo> It appears it cannot
[01:43] <jayjo> just a blinking cursor
[01:44] <doublejane> whats the first order of boot?
[01:45] <doublejane> "hard drive" or "EFI:hard drive"
[01:46] <jayjo> When I go to the boot menu it says mac osx with clover, but that's installed on a second harddrive, I've been using the primary drive with ubuntu for over a year with no real issues as long as I could access the terminal
[01:46] <disi> can anyone explain this? https://gist.github.com/dmtucker/8d782dafbd1c80fd0f1b6d1cbe475b97
[01:47] <cfhowlett> disi, yes.  it's a series of non-contextual terminal output
[01:48] <disi> cfhowlett: it is an SSCCE of differing POSIX behavior between bash and sh...
[01:48] <doublejane> jayjo: what happens if u unplug the mac drive?
[01:48] <cfhowlett> disi, I suspect the #bash channel would know more
[01:51] <jayjo> i haven't tried that yet. Right now if I boot with the default drive it goes straight to "GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.7" - what is the reason of booting here?
[01:52] <doublejane> the bios determines the boot into GNU...
[01:56] <Mister> Excuse me
[01:56] <Mister> Just wondering if k1l was still here or if anyone else could give me some help.
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Mister: I might be of some help; If I were aware of the issue . I am free :)
[02:05] <Mister> Thank you very much Bashing. I recently bought and old Lenovo PC with Linux installed.
[02:05] <Mister> And I wish to upgrade from 32 to 62 bit.
[02:06] <Mister> and i believe I've downloaded the file, but now I need to do something with the usb stick
[02:06] <Mister> And formatting or burning, or something of the like, and I've completely forgotten how to do that.
[02:07] <cfhowlett> Mister, first you need to check if your old pc is even 64 bit compatible
[02:07] <Mister> Yeah, we checked that.
[02:07] <doublejane> Mister: wew that should be a very old PC, no need to have 64 bit unless the memory exceed 4GB
[02:08] <Mister> It's 64 bit compatible. The gentleman I spoke to after I showed him the specs said he had no idea why the person before me installed 32 bit.
[02:08] <Mister> Because I can't run steam off of my 32 bit apparently.
[02:09] <Mister> But I've downloaded Ubuntu
[02:09] <Mister> The new one, and I have a usb drive, I just don't know what to do next.
[02:10] <jnewt_> i can't click links in hexchat or right click->open in browser.  any idea why?  works fine on windows.
[02:11] <cfhowlett> Mister, read the tutorial         /msg ubottu usb
[02:12] <cfhowlett> jnewt_, also how much ram do you have?
[02:14] <Mister> Where can I find the tutorial?
[02:14] <cfhowlett> Mister, /msg ubottu usb           in your irc
[02:16] <CountryfiedLinux> Good evening.
[02:16] <CountryfiedLinux> Is trim enabled automatically or do I need to set it up myself?
[02:17] <CountryfiedLinux> I see this in the directory. #!/bin/sh
[02:17] <CountryfiedLinux> # trim all mounted file systems which support it
[02:17] <cfhowlett> CountryfiedLinux, more info via irc bot:         /msg ubottu trim
[02:17] <CountryfiedLinux> Am I good to go or do I need to add something?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> depends on your ubuntu version
[02:17] <CountryfiedLinux> cfhowlett, 16.10
[02:17] <cfhowlett> enabled by default
[02:18] <CountryfiedLinux> cfhowlett, Oh ok. Same for Xubuntu 16.10?
[02:18] <cfhowlett> yes
[02:18] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[02:18] <mrwn> i have a Go web app, and i run on EC2 ubuntu instance, i just run with to go command, but it keep turned off,  is there like a best practice for running apps like this or servers on production instances?
[02:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[02:18] <msk-mex> o?
[02:19] <cfhowlett> might be best to ask #ubuntu-server mrwn
[02:19] <mrwn> ok thanks
[02:19] <wedgie> or a go channel
[02:29] <gnomethrower> Stupid question - what happens if you completely delete the root user?
[02:29] <gnomethrower> Is it even possible?
[02:29] <cfhowlett> nothing but bad things.  don't
[02:30] <gnomethrower> cfhowlett: I'm asking out of curiosity... I would obviously never do it on a machine I cared about
[02:30] <gnomethrower> it seems like the most impressive way to hose a system
[02:30] <cfhowlett> gnomethrower, there's a YT video and a blog somewhere.  it ain't pretty and it ain't recoverable
[02:31] <cfhowlett> gnomethrower, there's a YT video and a blog somewhere.  it ain't pretty and it ain't recoverable
[02:31] <gnomethrower> ah, excellent
[02:31] <gnomethrower> I've been looking for a blog/video with no success
[02:32] <gnomethrower> cfhowlett: wait, do you mean delete the file root?
[02:32] <gnomethrower> I mean the actual root user
[02:33] <cfhowlett> gnomethrower, delete root ubuntu           first hit on YT
[02:33] <gnomethrower> cfhowlett: I get "How to remove Password in Ubuntu"
[02:33] <gnomethrower> #3 is "Deleting the root directory ubuntu"
[02:36] <Mister> I'm unfortunately still struggling to download rufus
[02:36] <Mister> All I really want to do is play Spore.
[02:41] <rypervenche> gnomethrower: I think you could get the root user back pretty easily.
[02:41] <gnomethrower> rypervenche: That's my feeling too
[02:42] <gnomethrower> I kinda want to destroy a Ubuntu VM and then try to recover it
[02:42] <gnomethrower> at the very least it's an interesting War Games exercise for my org
[02:42] <rypervenche> gnomethrower: Go for it. Experience is the best teacher.
[02:42] <cfhowlett> and document it!
[02:43] <rypervenche> gnomethrower: I can't really think of anything that would get ruined by it. You'd just need to recreate the user with uid 0 and gid 0. Aside from that and creating its group, I don't know that anything else would need changing.
[02:43] <sysadmin> hi
[02:43] <sysadmin> i need to download vsphereclient.vmware.com/vsphereclient/2/3/0/6/3/5/6/VMware-viclient-all-5.1.0-2306356.exe
[02:43] <rypervenche> So really only three files would be affected. /etc/passwd, /etc/group, and /etc/shadow
[02:43] <sysadmin> but i am limited
[02:44] <sysadmin> can someone put it in another palace for me please?
[02:45] <rypervenche> gnomethrower: Are you new to Linux?
[02:45] <sysadmin> can someone help?
[02:45] <excelsiora> ok, how do I remove emacs 24 for good?
[02:45] <excelsiora> it keeps managing to reinstall itself
[02:46] <sysadmin> hey guys
[02:46] <rypervenche> excelsiora: Are you purging it?
[02:46] <sysadmin> vsphereclient.vmware.com/vsphereclient/2/3/0/6/3/5/6/VMware-viclient-all-5.1.0-2306356.exe
[02:46] <excelsiora> after I run .configure (opts), make, sudo checkinstall - it manages to replace the new one I build daily.
[02:46] <cfhowlett> sysadmin, you need to ask vmware for product support.  not an ubuntu product or issue.
[02:46] <cfhowlett> sysadmin, you need to ask vmware for product support.  not an ubuntu product or issue.
[02:46] <sysadmin> cfhowlett, i need to help
[02:47] <excelsiora> rypervenche: how can I purge it for good/
[02:47] <excelsiora> ?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> sysadmin, asked and answered
[02:47] <rypervenche> excelsiora: How are you removing it currently?
[02:47] <excelsiora> sudo apt-get remove emacssomethingorother
[02:47] <sysadmin> okay
[02:48] <sysadmin> it is human right
[02:48] <rypervenche> excelsiora: Try using "purge" instead of "remove", but we should look into how it's getting installed again.
[02:50] <excelsiora> rypervenche: thanks, seemed to work
[02:50] <excelsiora> did it for emacs24, it said it did for emacs24*
[02:50] <rypervenche> Yep yep.
[02:50] <excelsiora> ran configure... without the args... doh
[02:52] <excelsiora> but it seemed to report the correct config anyways
[02:52] <excelsiora> why would it do that?
[02:52] <excelsiora> did emacs change it?
[02:53] <excelsiora> I just did a git pull...
[02:57] <rypervenche> excelsiora: You're installing emacs from source?
[03:01] <excelsiora> rypervenche: yes - so if it comes back, I'll try a purge of emacs* and then just rebuild and reinstall
[03:01] <gnomethrower> rypervenche: Nope, not new - been using Ubuntu since 6.06 :)
[03:01] <excelsiora> do I need to run something after git pull to get to head?
[03:01] <gnomethrower> sorry, been AFK wrangling SaltStack states :D
[03:03] <excelsiora> rypervenche: I've had a devil of a time getting the dependencies right, and I'm sure I still need to add more things to my configure flags.
[03:03] <rypervenche> gnomethrower: That answers that question, lol.
[03:03] <rypervenche> excelsiora: Why do you need it from source?
[03:03] <vivi> marvic5
[03:04] <doublejane> excelsiora: using ldd <file> may help resolve the dependency
[03:04] <vivi> hello
[03:05] <gnomethrower> rypervenche: :)
[03:05] <gnomethrower> hopefully in a good way!
[03:08] <excelsiora> rypervenche: I have emacs26 - why not?
[03:08] <excelsiora> :P
[03:09] <excelsiora> besides - teach a man to fish, amiright?
[03:30] <rcti> hi njbjb
[03:30] <rcti> how to update in ubuntu mate
[03:30] <rcti> ??
[03:35] <PipeItToDevNull> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:41] <wxbo> klk
[03:42] <rcti> cant update the version in ubuntu mate??!
[03:43] <PipeItToDevNull> rcti: explain
[03:43] <PipeItToDevNull> Update what? The whole system?
[03:44] <rcti> "apt-get update" command in not working!
[03:44] <zack_> ive got a old nvidia 2600 that ive installed and found a driver for but upon boot the card displays the bios splash but doesnt show anything after and i cant go into tty
[03:44] <PipeItToDevNull> rcti: What is the output
[03:44] <rcti> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com vivid-security InRelease [2,855 B]
[03:44] <rcti> Get:2 http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid InRelease [2,861 B]
[03:44] <rcti> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease [2,847 B]
[03:44] <rcti> Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates InRelease [2,855 B]
[03:44] <rcti> 86% [3 InRelease gpgv 2,847 B] [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.Splitting up /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_vivid_Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease
[03:44] <rcti> E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[03:45] <PipeItToDevNull> http://askubuntu.com/questions/367748/gpg-error-while-downloading-software-clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-got-nodata
[03:46] <PipeItToDevNull> Are you using a proy?
[03:46] <PipeItToDevNull> proxy*
[03:46] <lucas-arg> guys after "trying" nvidia drivers 367 (still tearing with 950m optimus) i decided to uninstall them and put nouveau.modeset=0 in kernel options and use intel gpu instead, but had problems rebooting or shutting down the system tried installing watchdog but still have problems, reboot takes for ever... and some times it doesnt reboot at all...
[03:46] <rcti> no nothing.
[03:46] <PipeItToDevNull> rcti: Is this a fresh install?
[03:47] <rcti> just 1-2 weeks old.
[03:47] <rcti> kernel version is : 3.19.0-15-generic
[03:48] <lucas-arg> had same problems with 16.10 and 16.05
[03:48] <lucas-arg> 04
[03:48] <lucas-arg> any ideas on whats wrong?
[03:49] <PipeItToDevNull> rcti: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244112
[03:49] <PipeItToDevNull> The server may be down, try changing it
[03:49] <Biosphere_50> i'm running 16.04 now nad have it three systems
[03:49] <rcti> let me try\
[03:49] <Biosphere_50> on* three systems whats going on lucas-arg
[03:50] <Biosphere_50> lucas-arg: whats going on with your ubuntu 16.10/16.04 whats the problem
[03:51] <Biosphere_50> I may be able to help may now
[03:51] <Biosphere_50> not*
[03:51] <rcti> thank you
[03:52] <rcti> it's not helping..
[03:53] <PipeItToDevNull> I am unsure rcti
[03:53] <lucas-arg> Biosphere_50, well... after installing nvidia 367 drivers, i got tearing... no matter what i try that bug is there
[03:53] <rcti> ok.. thank you for help PipeItToDevNull
[03:53] <Biosphere_50> I have the same problem but when I use the xorg drivers I have less tearing
[03:54] <Biosphere_50> did you try turning on v-sync
[03:54] <rcti> where are u frm? PIpe
[03:54] <Biosphere_50> also I believe thers a tear-free option in the nvidia control panel but that may be amd cuz I have both
[03:54] <Biosphere_50> tearing while playing gamiong or video
[03:55] <Biosphere_50> let me see what version I have on
[03:55] <Biosphere_50> i'm using package nvidia-367 367.57
[03:57] <Biosphere_50> lucas-arg: during gameplay or video playback
[03:57] <lucas-arg> Biosphere_50, thats the same one i have, and yes during video gameplay and even moving windows arround if you movem quickly you can see the teraing in the borders of the windows
[03:57] <yourname1> reload
[03:58] <Biosphere_50> lucas-arg: what frontend gui are you using gnome, i3, lxde, kde4
[03:58] <lucas-arg> its so frustrating
[03:58] <lucas-arg> gnome
[03:58] <Biosphere_50> I hear that dude
[03:58] <Biosphere_50> ok
[03:58] <Biosphere_50> do you have visual effects 3d enabled
[03:58] <lucas-arg> i got them in kde x gnome wayland you name it
[03:59] <Biosphere_50> so all desktops are tearing
[03:59] <rcti> cant update ubuntu mate
[03:59] <lucas-arg> tried xfce without any effect
[03:59] <Biosphere_50> rcti: whats your error?
[03:59] <lucas-arg> yes
[03:59] <Biosphere_50> whats your video card
[03:59] <Biosphere_50> ram
[03:59] <rcti> E: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[03:59] <rcti>  
[03:59] <lucas-arg> nvidia gtx 950m intel 520
[04:00] <Biosphere_50> 950m
[04:00] <Biosphere_50> should be good
[04:00] <Biosphere_50> weird
[04:00] <Biosphere_50> did you do an update
[04:00] <Biosphere_50> do you have a xorg.conf file?
[04:00] <lucas-arg> i tell you fresh install nouveau dont let me even boot
[04:00] <rcti> thats the thing not working.
[04:00] <lucas-arg> nope
[04:00] <lucas-arg> no xorg
[04:01] <lucas-arg> thats why i added nouveau.modeset=0 in kernel and then installed nvidia drivers
[04:02] <rcti> anything ?? @Biosphere_50
[04:02] <Biosphere_50> rcti: if you have gui access open your software sources and check your settings turn off
[04:02] <rcti> done it.
[04:02] <Biosphere_50> only use main universe restricted and check your server your connecting to change it to main server
[04:03] <Biosphere_50> rcti: whats the download from ?
[04:03] <Biosphere_50> lucas-arg: did you use the console installer or additional drivers progra
[04:04] <Biosphere_50> lucas-arg: do you have the nouveau-modeset=0 set still on kernal command?
[04:05] <lucas-arg> yeah
[04:05] <lucas-arg> i do
[04:05] <lucas-arg> but that shouldnt be a problem since its supposed to be using nvidia not nouveau
[04:05] <Biosphere_50> but your forcing the old driver
[04:05] <Biosphere_50> nouveau isn't the new driver
[04:05] <Biosphere_50> nvdia-367 is
[04:06] <lucas-arg> i know
[04:06] <lucas-arg> nouveau.modeset=0 mens its not loaded
[04:06] <lucas-arg> means
[04:07] <Biosphere_50> I have similar hardward but i'm not using kernal commands to load the driver
[04:07] <lucas-arg> so after installing nvidia nvidia is taking place
[04:07] <Biosphere_50> i have xorg.conf
[04:07] <Biosphere_50> do you have a xorg.conf
[04:07] <lucas-arg> nope i dont thing i need one
[04:07] <lucas-arg> think
[04:08] <Biosphere_50> i would try one
[04:08] <Biosphere_50> if it isn't working
[04:08] <Biosphere_50> I have a sample
[04:08] <Biosphere_50> how did you install the driver
[04:09] <lucas-arg> sudo apt install nvidia-367
[04:09] <Biosphere_50> ah
[04:09] <Biosphere_50> ok I used additional drivers
[04:09] <rcti_> dfg
[04:09] <lucas-arg> its same thing
[04:09] <rcti> hii
[04:09] <rcti_> fuck oof
[04:10] <rcti> bc
[04:10] <Biosphere_50> whats does you additional drivers show
[04:10] <Biosphere_50> enabled nvidia-367
[04:10] <rcti> you are sleep now
[04:10] <lucas-arg> they are enabled after that command
[04:10] <lucas-arg> it says using nvidia blablabla
[04:10] <rcti> looooooodo
[04:11] <Biosphere_50> ok try a xorg.conf file
[04:12] <rcti> hi baba
[04:18] <Guest61591> i can't seem to get my optical drive to work. I've installed libdvd-pkg and did the dpkg-reconfigure. the "Disks" utility states there is no media in the drive. lsblk prints "sr0 11:0 1 1024M  0 rom".
[04:38] <Biosphere_50> Guest61591: whats os you using
[04:38] <Biosphere_50> Guest61591: distro version all the good stuff
[04:42] <DiJu> Anyone here experienced with xorg, Nvidia and Intel, and multiple monitors
[04:43] <lucas-arg> DiJu, cant get them to work even with one monitor
[04:43] <lucas-arg> DiJu, good luck
[04:43] <DiJu> Lol, thanks
[04:43] <DiJu> I have my Nvidia card driving 2 of 3 monitors and they work
[04:43] <DiJu> the 3rd, is plugged into my mobo/iGpu/intel
[04:44] <DiJu> and i cannot get it to display the desktop
[04:44] <DiJu> i've tried xrandr
[04:44] <lucas-arg> i dont even know why in the world i bought a laptop with nvidia chip i hate it
[04:44] <DiJu> Are you running the latest Nvidia driver?
[04:44] <DiJu> i think they have optimus support now
[04:44] <lucas-arg> 367 375 378 you name it
[04:45] <DiJu> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus
[04:45] <DiJu> u read this?
[04:45] <lucas-arg> neeeehh
[04:45] <lucas-arg> nope
[04:45] <lucas-arg> let me see
[04:47] <lucas-arg> DiJu, i dont find watch you say
[04:48] <DiJu> look for the heading Using nvidia
[04:49] <DiJu> oh hmm
[04:49] <DiJu> yeah i was thinking that maaaaaybe your external monitor was trying to use the intel
[04:49] <DiJu> instead of the nvidia in your laptop
[04:50] <blackbeard21> Hey, I am trying to use imwheel to increase the scroll speed and enable horizontal scrolling but the config file doesn't seem to be having any impact. Here is the .imwheelrc file - http://pastebin.com/FQUAXFhe. Maybe any of you can suggest why it isn't working
[05:05] <guzzlefry> Is it possible to trigger the auto-mount, that occurs whenever I plug a drive into the computer, without actually unplugging it? Everything seems to unmount whenever I restart.
[05:06] <Jordan_U> guzzlefry: The moment you try to access a volume via the file manager (nautilus) it will mount.
[05:07] <guzzlefry> oh brilliant, thank you
[05:12] <Biosphere_50> blackbeard21: try increasing the wheel speed with xinput instead of imwheelrc
[05:17] <Diju2> If there are any NVIDA/INTEL and XORG w/ Multiple Monitor xperts pls msg me
[05:24] <blackbeard21> Biosphere_50, can horizontal scrolling be setup with xinupt too?
[05:34] <blomstertj> Hello
[05:42] <Loomaanaatii> Sup
[05:49] <bennyboy> Hi all,
[05:49] <bennyboy> I have a question
[05:49] <bennyboy> Could you take a quantum computer and some how train it to program a computer? Seeing how the architecture of a quantum computer is fundamentally different to a typical binary computer is you could theoretically set up a neural net work wherein the task you want programmed is the carrot and the quantum computer finds the most efficient sequence of ones and zeros to complete the task. You could potentially design a test circuit to em
[05:49] <cfhowlett> wrong channel to ask bennyboy.   perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic but not here.
[05:50] <bennyboy> ok
[05:52] <PipeItToDevNull> bennyboy: This may be of interest to you https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/07/18/darpa-to-stage-an-ai-hacking-tournament-at-def-conblack-hat/
[05:54] <bennyboy> thanks
[06:00] <leyon> help
[06:01] <alkisg> leyon, here: https://pixabay.com/p-153094/?no_redirect
[06:02] <cfhowlett> leyon, here's a more effective way to ask for help:  https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[06:03] <leyon> my wifi is slow ;( i tried 12.04,14.04, and now 16.04.
[06:03] <leyon> my chipset is rtl8187
[06:04] <leyon> i tried everything on the internet. maybe has to do with driver :/
[06:06] <blackbeard21> xinput also didn't help in increasing the scrolling speed. Someone has any other suggestion to increase the scrolling speed?
[06:07] <Joral> I just installed 14.04.5 and I get an error when trying to install fglrx-updates
[06:22] <blackbeard21> What error do you get?
[06:23] <Joral> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  unity-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: libcheese7 (>=
[06:23] <Joral>  3.0.1) but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:24] <Danny128> hello all
[06:25] <xangua> Joral: run sudo apt-get update, try again
[06:25] <Joral> xangua, I have three times :(
[06:26] <Joral> also in additional drivers if I choose the option for fglrx-updates and click save changes it acts likes it changing then just flashes and puts the selection button back on the ubuntu default
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Joral: have you added ppa's of any kind?
[06:27] <alkisg> Joral: isn't unity-control-center already installed?
[06:27] <alkisg> Are you not using ubuntu?
[06:27] <Joral> havn't done anything but 1) install the system 2) update the system and 3) attempt to install fglrx
[06:28] <cfhowlett> Joral, in a terminal:    inxi -F | pastebinit
[06:29] <Joral> well I at least know that apt works as I just installed inxi and pastebinit, stand by for me to run the command again
[06:29] <alkisg> Joral, what's the output of `apt policy unity-control-center`?
[06:29] <Joral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23873479/
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Joral, suggest you upgrade all available packages: sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:31] <Joral>  apt policy unity-control-center E: Invalid operation policy
[06:31] <alkisg> apt-cache policy unity-control-center, then
[06:32] <Joral> full update did not solve it but here is the policy infohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23873485/
[06:33] <omenius> someone here using tmux with tmux-rescurrent (and maybe even continuum). Just installed plugins and made .tmux.conf file, but rescurrent won't work even remotely
[06:33] <Joral> I meant full-upgrade (thats what I did just not what I said
[06:33] <alkisg> and the output of: apt-cache policy  libcheese-gtk23 ?
[06:34] <omenius> doing hotkey+ctrl+s and then hotkey+ctrl+r just echos "Tmux resurrect file not found!", so I't won't even work without reboot
[06:34] <Joral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23873488/
[06:36] <alkisg> !info libcheese-gtk23 trusty
[06:36] <Joral> why is fglrx pulling it then?
[06:37] <alkisg> Joral: your initial message about fglrx dependencies and error messages was cut off, can you post that one to pastebin too?
[06:37] <alkisg> "the following packages have unmet dependencies:  unity-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed " etc etc
[06:38] <alkisg> Because your libcheese-gtk23 is already >= 3.4.0, so that doesn't make sense...
[06:38] <Joral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23873497/
[06:39] <alkisg> Joral: what is your version of libcheese7? dpkg -l libcheese7
[06:39] <Joral> 3.10.2
[06:39] <alkisg> Does that start with "ii" in front? I.e. properly installed?
[06:40] <Joral> yes it says ii libchese7...
[06:40] <alkisg> That doesn't make sense then...
[06:40] <alkisg> Hrm. Can you try with aptitude instead?
[06:40] <Joral> why is fglrx "depending" on a web cam library at all?
[06:40] <alkisg> sudo apt-get install aptitude, then sudo aptitude install fglrx
[06:41] <alkisg> It doesn't, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/fglrx
[06:41] <Joral> ok, then why does apt think it does lol
[06:45] <Joral> its wanting to completely remove xserver and all associated dependencies, which means that 14.04 has already switched to xorg-server 1.18 hasn't it?
[06:46] <alkisg> No, it's still on 1.15
[06:47] <Joral> then why does aptitude think that a driver conflicts with literally every xorg package?
[06:47] <alkisg> What's the output of this? egrep -rv '^#|^#' /etc/apt/sources.list*
[06:47] <alkisg> You may have weird repositories enabled...
[06:48] <Joral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23873521/
[06:49] <Joral> i forgot I installed google chrome, that wouldn't be the issue would it?
[06:49] <alkisg> Nah... it looks fine... strange...
[06:50] <alkisg> And apt-get dist-upgrade, or apt-get install -f, say that everything is ok and up to date?
[06:51] <Joral> dist-upgrade would put be on 16.04 which is amdgpu instead of fglrx, thats why I just installed this one tonight
[06:51] <alkisg> No, dist-upgrade means normal update
[06:51] <alkisg> It's not "do-release-upgrade"
[06:51] <Joral> oh, ok let me try it then
[06:51] <alkisg> It's not related to 16.04 at all
[06:52] <Joral> dist-upgrade says nothing to do
[06:52] <Joral> its like something is intentionally blocking fglrx
[06:58] <Joral> well its 1 am for me so Ill have to fight with it tomorrow
[06:58] <Joral> thanks for trying
[07:13] <zerous> hi :)
[07:14] <Kotileijona> Hey
[07:16] <zerous> I am new to linux in general. I was reading the source of echo.c in coreutils and came across bindtextdomain(). I have googled about it and understood that it sets the base directory for a given message domain. But I don't understand what a message domain is and why it exists in the first place. ?
[07:16] <zerous> s/echo.c/echo
[07:32] <prakhar489> if anyone sees my message,please respond.
[07:33] <bazhang> prakhar489, whats the ubuntu support issue
[07:34] <prakhar489> bazhang,my message sometimes didin't get delivered sometimes.
[07:36] <stevenm> I think hell just froze over... there is a microsoft ubuntu repository :S
[07:38] <avieks> haha whaat
[07:38] <stevenm> avieks, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/linux/sql-server-linux-setup-tools#ubuntu
[07:38] <stevenm> packages.microsoft.com
[07:38] <jarnos> Network manager tells "device not ready" for Wifi in (Xubuntu) Xenial. Restarting network manager does not work.
[07:39] <stevenm> it contains powershell, mssql-tools and msssql-server (and a few odbc stuff)
[07:39] <stevenm> you'd think skype would go in there too eventually
[07:40] <avieks> ah
[07:40] <tekisui> ha
[07:40] <avieks> sql makes sense in a way
[07:41] <tekisui> how i make [download.01.org] trusted ???
[07:41] <tekisui> make it a source ?
[07:42] <tekisui> is now binair
[07:45] <tekisui> seems to work
[07:45] <tekisui> whole system might go black soon :D
[07:48] <pendicol> I'm connected to a server via SSH; How can I force the package manager to handle its traffic through that route?
[07:48] <pendicol> ssh as a proxy
[07:49] <pendicol> for web browsers it can be done simply by setting proxy on 127.0.0.1:<port> and running ssh with 'ssh -D <port> ...'
[07:49] <pendicol> but what about 'aot'?
[07:49] <pendicol> apt*
[07:49] <tekisui> amai
[07:49] <tekisui> ok am still alive
[07:50] <pendicol> in other words, tunneling traffic of 'apt' over the ssh connection is possible?
[07:51] <tekisui> i dunno
[07:51] <tekisui> am happy i got sound with linux
[07:51] <tekisui> daswidanye !
[08:00] <distributed> what does this cryptic-looking command do?
[08:00] <distributed> :(){ :|: & };:
[08:01] <alkisg> distributed: it defines a function that spawns itself a lot of times and can be used for bombing
[08:01] <distributed> bombing?
[08:01] <distributed> like your computer blows up just by running a command?
[08:02] <alkisg> distributed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[08:02] <distributed> sounds dangerous
[08:02] <alkisg> No, it just wastes all the cpu so that your pc needs a reset
[08:02] <distributed> o.k.
[08:02] <distributed> then i should run this scriptomatically at boot on my mom's computer?
[08:03] <foddo> No.
[08:03] <distributed> why not?
[08:03] <distributed> wont it then reset it when it boots or something?
[08:04] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[08:10] <M4dH4TT3r> ohh btw ikonia was just going to let you know i know what that display issue the other day was now, apparently nvidia drivers need to be explicitly defined in xorg.conf, besides that the only issue i still have with it is a known bug with uefi
[08:16] <_jyo_> hello, I am looking for some help to change the power settings on a ubuntu 16.10 install that will not boot
[08:16] <_jyo_> Would appreciate some help
[08:17] <cotin> use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS _jyo
[08:17] <cotin> 16.10 are for "Ubuntu devs"
[08:17] <_jyo_> cotin, I need to retrioeve some data from this instal, I have an exam early next week
[08:18] <_jyo_> Intend to return to 16.04, but would prefer to do it after the exam I need the computer for a presentation.
[08:18] <cotin> Well you could install 16.04 alongside 16.10 and you would be able to get any files you need.
[08:19] <_jyo_> I have tried to access the disk from a live usb, but it is encrypted
[08:19] <cotin> ouch
[08:19] <cotin> that is another problem yes.
[08:19] <_jyo_> I just need  to change the power settings from the usb I think
[08:19] <cotin> have you tried to start ubuntu 16.10 in recovery?
[08:19] <_jyo_> I have the key
[08:19] <cotin> thats good.
[08:20] <_jyo_> it does the same when root is login
[08:20] <_jyo_> the ttys do the same to, this is caused by ACPI power settins change before last shut down
[08:20] <cotin> before ubuntu boots try to hit F8 a couple of times and use the down arrow to select Ubuntu Recovery
[08:20] <alkisg> _jyo_: and changing the power settings will make it boot?!
[08:21] <cotin> Well start in recovery then!
[08:21] <_jyo_> cotin, it wont
[08:21] <cotin> it wont start at all?
[08:21] <_jyo_> I can access the system files from a live usb, that was my thought at the moment
[08:21] <alkisg> _jyo_: put "noacpi" in the cmdline, if you think it's an apci issue, but I doubt it
[08:22] <_jyo_> alkisg, at which point?
[08:22] <alkisg> You press "e" in grub, and write it next to "quiet splash", and then press f10
[08:22] <_jyo_> cotin, it hangs at the command line the last line output is :[ ok ] Stopped User Manager for UID 1000.
[08:22] <_jyo_> [ ok ] Removed slice User Slice of <username>.
[08:24] <_jyo_> alkisg, I was also looking at trying to stop the request for the password on awaking from suspend. It is to buggy for a presentation :/
[08:24] <alkisg> You can do that once it boots
[08:24] <_jyo_> No I am really inn the @#$*
[08:25] <_jyo_> I think is is a bug in the GNOME settings that have tied a knot in the login process
[08:26] <alkisg> gnome does not load until after login
[08:26] <alkisg> So it can't be gnome settings prohibiting the pc from reaching the login screen
[08:26] <OlofL> https://gist.github.com/sliddjur/47a50721bcde971ca2aab0d9cc1a1df9 how can I solve this? Can I just delete images in boot?
[08:26] <_jyo_> alkisg, but the settings were changed from GNOME
[08:26] <alkisg> Then that's not what caused the issue
[08:26] <_jyo_> I think that it is a sill loop, which is making it block.
[08:26] <_jyo_> silly
[08:27] <_jyo_> such as disableing the need for a password request at login, when it has to have ome to decrypt, I am speculation
[08:27] <kernello> hello everyone, what is the extension of text files?
[08:27] <EriC^^> kernello: it can be anything, extensions dont mean anything in linux
[08:28] <_jyo_> I had turned off and then on again the password settings in the personal account settings.
[08:28] <EriC^^> usually they're just extensionless or .txt, like README
[08:30] <kernello> EriC^^ I need to enter the file extension in the command, that's why I need an extension.
[08:31] <_jyo_> alkisg, is there a way to copy the encrypted blob that is the home folder? And to open with the correct software from another machine?
[08:31] <_jyo_> I will just reinstall if I have the data
[08:31] <EriC^^> kernello: if it's an output file use whatever you want
[08:32] <EriC^^> _jyo_: you can use "encryptfs-recover-private" to open the home dir
[08:32] <EriC^^> * "ecryptfs-recover-private"
[08:33] <kernello> EriC^^, ok, thank you1 :)
[08:33] <kernello> thank you!*
[08:33] <EriC^^> np
[08:34] <cotin> _jyo: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[08:34] <cotin> It says how to recover from LiveUSB
[08:35] <_jyo_> I have tried, I will look at this again
[08:37] <kernello> EriC^^, it worked even without adding any extension at all :)
[08:37] <kernello> as you said
[08:38] <EriC^^> kernello: great :)
[08:41] <_jyo_> cotin, EriC^^, that command fails ...
[08:41] <EriC^^> _jyo_: did you mount the partition that has the home dir?
[08:42] <_jyo_> EriC^^, it is mounted yes, I can see the folder and read the readme next to the folder
[08:44] <EriC^^> _jyo_: try sudo ecryptfs-recovery-private
[08:44] <EriC^^> *recovery
[08:44] <EriC^^> *recover
[08:44] <_jyo_> Last time I use any software that I do not understand fully ... :/
[08:44] <_jyo_> ok
[08:44] <cotin> Good luck then.
[08:46] <_jyo_> find, filesystem loop detected
[08:47] <_jyo_> EriC^^, '/sys/kernel/debug' is part of the same file system loop as '/sys/kernel/debug'
[08:48] <EriC^^> _jyo_: try pointing it to the .Private dir
[08:48] <EriC^^> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/home/path/to/.Private
[08:48] <_jyo_> cotin, :) I am learning c right now... the data is a project about php, javascript and ajax. all of which I f'n hate. its a sign from above I tell you, return to unix roots :)
[08:49] <_jyo_> EriC^^, please shoot me, to put me out of my misery now .... :) that looks more promesing
[08:50] <_jyo_> EriC^^, YES, it is asking for my hash
[08:51] <_jyo_> Sucess!
[08:52] <_jyo_> Success even, well I am not out of the forrest just yet, as I have to reinstall when I should be writing, but this is deffinatly in the right direction.
[08:54] <_jyo_> EriC^^, I hope I did not speek to soon. I have been given a mount point, how to read this?
[08:54] <EriC^^> _jyo_: as usual, copy the files off their to another place and they'll stay decrypted
[08:55] <_jyo_> EriC^^, I hope I did not speek to soon. I have been given a mount point, how to read this?/
[08:55] <_jyo_> ops
[08:55] <cotin> or sudo nautilus is thats easier.
[08:55] <cotin> if*
[08:56] <_jyo_> EriC^^, I can't open it though, is that normal?
[08:56] <EriC^^> _jyo_: open it how?
[08:56] <EriC^^> yeah do what cotin said
[08:57] <_jyo_> oh does it need to be mounted?
[08:58] <_jyo_> I am trying to acces via the folders and the mouint point address
[08:58] <koen_> hi i have a networking /dns issue.i m not able to ping www.google.com
[08:59] <koen_> i setup ubuntu 16.04 in vm ware
[08:59] <koen_> could someone help me out
[09:00] <ppf> koen_: are you able to ping 8.8.8.8?
[09:00] <_jyo_>  EriC^^, I have tried ecryptfs-mount-private, it says that it is not set up properly
[09:01] <koen_> ppf: connect: Network is unreachable
[09:01] <koen_> what is 8.8.8.8 btw?
[09:01] <ppf> googles dns server
[09:01] <koen_> aah ok k
[09:01] <koen_> ppf: how can i solve this
[09:01] <ppf> paste ifconfig
[09:03] <_jyo_> going to try copying and then changing permissions, I guess that is all that is blocking now
[09:04] <koen_> ppf: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/90dd97dbf5021dfb5b800dc07a3e6a78
[09:05] <ppf> koen_: is your cable plugged in?
[09:05] <ppf> we're talking about ethernet, right?
[09:05] <ppf> wait, you said vm
[09:06] <ppf> is the vm configured to have an ethernet port?
[09:06] <koen_> ppf: no its in wifi
[09:08] <koen_> ppf: any solutions?
[09:09] <TvL2386> so koen_ you have ubuntu 16.04 in vmware on wifi?
[09:10] <koen_> TvL2386: yes exactly
[09:11] <TvL2386> so I suppose your vmware host is on wifi and not the VM itself
[09:12] <_jyo_> EriC^^, I have no idea what to do next, uncertain at to whether the data is copyable or not. Your advice would be most welcome
[09:12] <EriC^^> _jyo_: try opening the files
[09:12] <fedecupe> good evening, I'm looking for help in installing a displaylink driver with newer evdi module. Anyone cares to help?
[09:12] <TvL2386> koen_, if you type "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr show", do you see any network interfaces except lo (loopback)
[09:13] <EriC^^> _jyo_: sudo nautilus /path/to/mountpoint
[09:13] <_jyo_> EriC^^, I am unabe to
[09:13] <koen_> TvL2386: both are in wifi
[09:13] <TvL2386> koen_, but the VM itself won't have a wifi card
[09:14] <koen_> TvL2386: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/55bc8d905ff42919f77303d27f031ba8
[09:14] <koen_> see internet is working fine in the laptop
[09:14] <koen_> but the host inside VMware is not having networking
[09:15] <_jyo_> EriC^^, there is a .desktop file and a readme
[09:15] <_jyo_> the dot desktop takes me to the home folder where the encrepter user folder is, but I can still not access it
[09:15] <TvL2386> koen_, mkay. This vignesh@ubuntu is your laptop running VMWare and the h@ubuntu is the Virtual Machine?
[09:16] <TvL2386> koen_, what does "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr show" inside the VM say?
[09:16] <EriC^^> _jyo_: what mountpoint did it give you?
[09:17] <koen_> TvL2386: that h@ubuntu was a typo
[09:17] <koen_> TvL2386: what i pasted was the result of iconfig and ip addr show inside vm
[09:18] <TvL2386> so you paste the gist and say: "see internet is working fine in the laptop" but the gist is inside the VM and not the laptop...
[09:18] <_jyo_> EriC^^, /tmp/encryptfs.GZApZUdS
[09:18] <EriC^^> _jyo_: looks decrypted
[09:19] <EriC^^> _jyo_: what does ls -l /tmp/.. show you?
[09:19] <TvL2386> it's not easy to follow koen_
[09:20] <koen_> TvL2386: i apologize for the confusion
[09:20] <koen_> i have a laptop,that has windows.on top of that i have vm ware which has ubuntu
[09:20] <TvL2386> koen_, no worries... also you must have done something to make that interface "ens33" come online, because it's not shown in your first gist where you typed "ifconfig"
[09:20] <koen_> so internet is working fine in windows,but inside vmware .i.e in linux its not working
[09:21] <koen_> aah yeah i tried to do something with network and sharing settings.. but it dint work also previously the vm networking setting had a NAT
[09:22] <koen_> network adapter previously was a NAT,now i chose Host-Only
[09:22] <TvL2386> yeah koen_ NAT is normally fine
[09:22] <TvL2386> telephone brb
[09:22] <koen_> sure
[09:22] <rizonz> anyone hosting a CentOS mirror on Ubuntu ?
[09:23] <_jyo_> EriC^^, it shows the .desktop file the README also .ecryptfs .Private
[09:25] <_jyo_> The last two being links
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> once upon a time my psychiatrist had a pet frog in his office
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> my psychiatrist asked me a lot of annoying questions.  When he asked "have you ever killed anything", i got extra annoyed
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> so i went to his desk, grabbed his pet frog, and removed its head, with a scissors.
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> then i said, "yeah, i kill stuff!"
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> and that was the first time i ever killed a frog
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> since then i have been killing frogs
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> i kill frogs
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> and in the future i intend to be killing frogs
[09:25] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> because i kill frogs.
[09:26] <kazim59> Hi, I've bought a wifi usb adapter since my laptop's internal wifi isn't strong enough. Now how do I tell Ubuntu to use my USB one and not use the internal one? Thanks.
[09:26] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> because i kill frogs.
[09:26] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> any questions?
[09:28] <EriC^^> _jyo_: that's not right
[09:28] <hateball> kazim59: iirc you should be able to disable an individual device in network-manager
[09:28] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> EriC^^: have you ever killed a frog?
[09:28] <EriC^^> _jyo_: try to decrypt again
[09:28] <hateball> kazim59: otherwise you can blocklist the module for the internal one in /etc/modprobe.d/
[09:28] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> hateball: have you ever killed a frog?
[09:28] <hateball> kazim59: *or* you could use rfkill to disable it
[09:28] <hateball> !ot | i-K1LL-FR0GS
[09:29] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> when they say "ribbit" it makes me want to kill them
[09:29] <kazim59> hateball: it seems the USB one is not recognised yet either... how do I know?
[09:29] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !ops | hateball is a ball of flaming hate
[09:29] <hateball> kazim59: "rfkill list" should list available devices
[09:29] <kazim59> hateball: this came in logs when I connected it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23873913/
[09:29] <hateball> kazim59: when you plug the device in, "dmesg" should spit out info
[09:30] <kazim59> hateball: exactly, that's the paste
[09:30] <ObrienDave> i thought full moon was next week *sighs*
[09:30] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !help
[09:30] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !commands
[09:30] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !list
[09:30] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !bot
[09:31] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !botclone
[09:31] <hateball> kazim59: if you run "lsusb" does it show a particular model for the chipset?
[09:31] <ObrienDave> !ops | i-K1LL-FR0GS needs to be banned
[09:32] <kazim59> hateball: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 2357:0109
[09:32] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !ops | ObrienDave needs to be banned
[09:32] <hateball> kazim59: could be you need additional drivers. my personal experience with realtek chipsets are not very great
[09:32] <kazim59> hateball: this is same vendor id and product id that I see in dmesg... and its Realtek it seems
[09:32] <hateball> kazim59: yes
[09:32] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !ops | hateball has sex with frogs
[09:33] <hateball> kazim59: are you on 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[09:33] <ObrienDave> Myrtti, thanks
[09:33] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !ops | ubottu is nickspamming
[09:34] <i-K1LL-FR0GS> !ops | Myrtti rapes donkeys
[09:35] <hateball> kazim59: this post might be relevant https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2335483
[09:35] <kazim59> hateball: 16.04 LTS
[09:38] <Rudemeister> hi
[09:38] <_jyo_> EriC^^, I seem to be missing a step here, it works when I decrypt and makes exactly the same links with a different mount point each time
[09:39] <Rudemeister> anyone familiair with this error? "JRE libraries are missing or not compatible...."
[09:39] <kazim59> hateball: hmm, useful link, thanks.. trying to install a driver from a custom repo
[09:40] <_jyo_> If I run ecryptfs-mount-private, it says that Encrypted private directory is not set up properly
[09:40] <hateball> kazim59: like I said, my experience with realtek has lead me to never buy realtek again
[09:40] <mada360> Hello, I've just setup google-authenticator for a server SSH connection and am now unable to sign in as my codes are being rejected, even the back-up codes that shouldn't be time sensitive
[09:40] <hateball> kazim59: but hopefully you get it working!
[09:40] <_jyo_> Rudemeister, you do not have the corect java version
[09:40] <kazim59> hateball: how do we know? I bought TP-Link, and internally its Realtek
[09:41] <_jyo_> check the jre version Rudemeister
[09:41] <Rudemeister> _jyo_: ok tnx
[09:41] <kazim59> so is Realtek TP-Link's own company.. or something else
[09:41] <Rudemeister> _jyo_: must be too high of a version then
[09:42] <mada360> Realtek is the chip provider as far as I know
[09:42] <hateball> kazim59: googling model before making purchase etc, I am not saying it is easy
[09:43] <hateball> kazim59: but it saves headache when it works out of the box instead, so :)
[09:43] <mada360> Tp-link devices can come with Realtek or Atheros built in
[09:44] <_jyo_> Rudemeister, might simply be missing
[09:45] <TvL2386> koen_, I would enable a NAT network in your VMWARE and then configure your Ubuntu VM to use dhcp
[09:46] <Rudemeister> _jyo_: anyhting with tmp that might be causing it?
[09:46] <TvL2386> koen_, you still here btw?
[09:46] <koen_> Yes
[09:46] <TvL2386> :)
[09:46] <koen_> TvL2386: how to configure Ubuntu Vm to use dhcp
[09:46] <koen_> i chose the network adapter to be nat
[09:46] <TvL2386> koen_, that's good
[09:46] <TvL2386> according to your gist, your network interface in the VM is "ens33"
[09:47] <EriC^^> _jyo_: it should show the decrypted files in /tmp/ecryptfs..
[09:47] <TvL2386> did you manually configure that 192.168.10.128/24 ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/55bc8d905ff42919f77303d27f031ba8
[09:47] <EriC^^> _jyo_: can you show a pastebin of the whole process?
[09:48] <EriC^^> ls -l /home/$USER; sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/$USER/.Private ; ls -l /tmp/ecryptfs.whatever ?
[09:48] <TvL2386> koen_, you should have something like: "auto ens33" and on the next line "iface ens33 inet dhcp"
[09:48] <koen_> TvL2386: Where?
[09:49] <TvL2386> koen_, in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:49] <koen_> TvL2386: how long will u be here? m going for a meeting,can i ping u in a while
[09:50] <TvL2386> I'll be here for a few hours
[09:50] <TvL2386> not lurking 100% of the time though ;)
[09:50] <zerous> If I wanted to compile coreutils without gcc optimization, what should I look into ?
[09:51] <tomreyn> zerous: removing the -O ?
[09:52] <zerous> tomreyn: yeah, I know, but from which file. I am really new to linux and with automake.
[09:53] <tomreyn> zerous: if you're new to linux then this is probably not a good project to start with.
[09:53] <_jyo_> It is searching for private encrypted directories, that gives the same 'loop' error
[09:53] <_jyo_> EriC^^, yes I can make a pastbin, what would you like to see?
[09:53] <EriC^^> ls -l /home/$USER; sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/$USER/.Private ; ls -l /tmp/ecryptfs.whatever ?
[09:54] <_jyo_> ok ...
[09:55] <_jyo_> for the $USER, do you require ubuntu (this is from usb) or that I navigate to the user with the encrypted file?
[09:55] <EriC^^> _jyo_: the latter
[09:55] <_jyo_> EriC^^, ok
[09:57] <zerous> tomreyn: I know. The truth is that I have been trying to chase the execution flow of echo (coreutils) by running it through gdb and I have come to see that a specific statement, line 38 precisely is getting executed even though the if clause that contains shouldn't allow it, as the condition should be false logically. So I wanted to see it run without optimization. Should I be looking into automake to
[09:57] <tomreyn> zerous: the general approach would be to "apt-get source" it, cd into coreutils*, read INSTALL, add environment options as discussed there to modify the build as needed. build, and to dpkg-buildpackage it.
[09:57] <zerous> understand more about the building process ?
[10:01] <tomreyn> zerous: if you'd like to understand how automake works, looking at how it works would seem like a good idea. but you don't strictly need to just to build the software.
[10:01] <kazim59> hateball: now it seems it has connected using both interfaces!!
[10:01] <_jyo_> EriC^^. Yes, that gives the full list of the directory as an output
[10:01] <kazim59> is it possible?
[10:01] <tomreyn> zerous: line 38 of what, /bin/echo's source code ?
[10:01] <zerous> tomreyn: yes.
[10:02] <tomreyn> zerous: be aware that many shells will just make you use their built-in implementations of basic commands such as echo. e.g. bash does.
[10:02] <tomreyn> man bash -> SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS -> echo
[10:03] <andywang> anyone else？
[10:03] <tomreyn> andywang: hmm? you just joined.
[10:03] <_jyo_> EriC^^, pastbin.com/RUp6C20W
[10:03] <zerous> tomreyn: oh, that might be the reason. :) I never thought about it.
[10:03] <zerous> recompiling now.
[10:04] <_jyo_> EriC^^, sorry there is an error in the link
[10:04] <hateball> kazim59: sure, as I said you can use rfkill to block the internal device if you like
[10:04] <hateball> kazim59: perhaps your laptop even has a physical switch to disable ti
[10:05] <_jyo_> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/RUp6C20W
[10:06] <_jyo_> Though I guess I can do a cp dir/*
[10:06] <zerous> tomreyn: nope that isn't the problem. I am running the right executable through gdb and it is doing the weird thing again.
[10:07] <_jyo_> EriC^^, yes I can, this looks very prommising
[10:09] <wayne23> Hello, I'm setting a proxy via "gsettings set ... manual / host / port" . This fills the text input fields in "System Settings - Network - Network proxy" correctly. But I have to click on "Apply system wide" in the gui to fill /etc/environment with the correct proxy settings. Is there a way to do this via commandline?
[10:09] <_jyo_> EriC^^, thank you so very much; I have the files that I was working on.
[10:10] <EriC^^> _jyo_: if you want the hidden files as well use rsync to copy it
[10:11] <EriC^^> _jyo_: rsync -av /tmp/ecryptfs..../ /path/to/destination (trailing "/" after ecryptfs.... is important)
[10:12] <_jyo_> EriC^^, rsync is amazing, just clearing the space on my backup disk to copy over.
[10:13] <kazim59> hateball: no, laptop doesn't have a physical switch. But I found a way to disable it through writing in interfaces file.
[10:13] <kazim59> the realtek one is working now, and it looks like it has good signal strength
[10:16] <zerous> tomreyn: thanks a lot for your suggestion. I changed the CFLAGS parameter and disabled optimization. Now the code runs just fine through gdb. :)
[10:18] <tomreyn> zerous: welcome.
[10:20] <zerous> tomreyn: Is it a bad practice to debug optimized code ?
[10:21] <ppf> no, just difficult
[10:21] <zerous> oh
[10:21] <zerous> Are there any special flags or parameters to be set in gdb for such cases.
[10:21] <ppf> no
[10:21] <ppf> gdb shows you how the program looks like
[10:21] <zerous> I am sorry, I haven't read gdb manual in full
[10:22] <ppf> if all meta information has been optimized out then there's not much you can see
[10:22] <zerous> oh I get it.
[10:23] <zerous> so basically we debug it, make sure the software works the way we want it to and finally optimize it.
[10:24] <tomreyn> right, to debug, you create builds with debug symbols included
[10:24] <ppf> yes and no. Debug and Release programs behave differently. you have to test and subsequently debug both
[10:25] <zerous> So I presume there are tools/procedures for debugging Release programs specifically ?
[10:25] <ppf> no, not really
[10:27] <ppf> you can include debug symbols in an optimized build. that still might affect behaviour though
[10:27] <zerous> Is it a standard practice ?
[10:27] <ppf> other tricks are no omitting the framepointer. you still won't be able to inspect variables, really, but at least you get some decent stack traces
[10:28] <ppf> intel processors also have special stacktrace registers, you can those, too
[10:29] <zerous> oh
[10:29] <ppf> i don't think there really is a standard practise. if you've got an error that's specific to the release build only, then debugging is tricky
[10:29] <tomreyn> that's if you don't target x platform or x cpu vendor
[10:30] <fedecupe> Good evening, I'm looking for help in compiling a driver using a different module, can anyone lend a hand?
[10:30] <ppf> and there's also printf-debugging, of course :)
[10:31] <tomreyn> :))
[10:32] <tomreyn> fedecupe: provide more context / be more specific. a linux kernel module IS a driver
[10:34] <fedecupe> tomreyn sorry. I'm trying to install displaylink driver, but need to "repackage" (don't know if the word is correct) it with a different evdi moudle (because I'm using the kernel 4.9) Can I link something related?
[10:36] <tomreyn> fedecupe: yuo can post links as long as it is about ubuntu support.
[10:36] <fedecupe> tomreyn here we are (I post this because it has many relevant info, I don't want to flood the channel with pastebins XD ) http://askubuntu.com/questions/874558/cant-install-displaylink-driver-with-current-kernel
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:40] <tomreyn> fedecupe: is that a mainline kernel on 16.04.1?
[10:41] <fedecupe> tomreyn sorry I don't get what you are asking. The kernel was installed through deb packages from kernel.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <tomreyn> fedecupe: right, that's roughly what i meant. is the 16.04.1 kernel too old for you needs then?
[10:45] <fedecupe> tomreyn it has a bug that makes my touchscreen and touchpad act weird/not work (on the 16.04 live they worked like a charm)
[10:45] <angel-swe> Hi. My batter won't charge no more.. What shall I check?
[10:45] <tomreyn> then fix that first and then revisit this part
[10:47] <hateball> angel-swe: "upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0"
[10:48] <hateball> angel-swe: if your battery has 0% capacity for instance, that's not very great
[10:48] <hateball> angel-swe: I assume you have tried different chargers? It may well be the charger that is busted also
[10:48] <backbox> Hello
[10:48] <tomreyn> angel-swe: see whether there is an option to recalibrate it ("extend battery life") on your bios. check warranty, check china replacements. also,t hat's not an ubuntu question (unless it works on other OS and never worked on a given ubuntu version). maybe try asking in  ##hardware
[10:59] <Scoop7> I think I am going to burst.... Who the hell uses Sunday as first day of the week? What's wrong with you??
[10:59] <Scoop7> and how do you change it to monday?
[11:00] <royal_screwup21> I have both python 2.7 and python 3.3 installed by default. However, my python 3.3 code is not successfully compiling when I write it in a .py file and then perform "python .py" on the terminal. How do I configure my shell so that python 3.3 successfully compiles?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> because Sunday IS the first day of the week
[11:00] <DeadKaptain> http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/03/week-starts-sunday/
[11:00] <Scoop7> I bursted out at a electronics e-shop for sending me the receive data which seemed to me faulty, then I realized later that it was ubuntus fault!!
[11:01] <Scoop7> date*
[11:01] <BluesKaj> lppk at the calendar, Scoop7
[11:01] <BluesKaj> err look
[11:02] <Scoop7> BluesKaj it doesn't give the option to change first day of the week....
[11:03] <Scoop7> Also lets me guess you're from US and not only you don't use the metric system, but you also have Sunday for 1st day??!!
[11:03] <Scoop7> let*
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Scoop7, nope, not US, in Canada and we use the meytic system, but it has nothing to do with which day is first
[11:05] <BluesKaj> metric even
[11:06] <Scoop7> I know but it seems so wrong.... Still need it changed!
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Scoop7, check your calandar
[11:08] <zerous> see you guys later!
[11:09] <angel-swe> hateball,  is this a terminal command? "upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0"
[11:11] <unexpuser> Hello, could some one help me with increasing the size of my root partition. I tried to do this with fdisk but the size remains the same and most tutorials on the internet are referring to gparted which i cant install since I dont have space left for that.
[11:11] <k1l> unexpuser: you cant resize the root partition while using it.
[11:12] <k1l> unexpuser: so either you boot a usb/dvd live ubuntu and use gparted. or you remove stuff from your root partition like old kernels and headers
[11:13] <unexpuser> k1l: you can delete the partition and add it again with a different size.
[11:14] <k1l> unexpuser: that doesnt make sense
[11:15] <unexpuser> k1l: well thats what they say,.. anyway i think a fresh install would be a good idea
[11:15] <k1l> unexpuser: who says that?
[11:16] <k1l> unexpuser: you cant resize the / partition while you are running the OS. please boot up a usb or cd/dvd live system and use gparted from there.
[11:16] <ppf> you can't resize _any_ partition while it's mounted
[11:16] <unexpuser> http://askubuntu.com/questions/492054/how-to-extend-my-root-partition
[11:18] <ppf> that's using resize2fs, not fdisk
[11:19] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, you run that command in a terminal
[11:19] <hateball> angel-swe: it'll show your battery info
[11:19] <BluesKaj> unexpuser, you can install gpartyed as a live media on cd or usb and usw that to partition your drive
[11:19] <BluesKaj> gparted even
[11:20] <hateball> ppf: not true, you can extend partitions just fine while mounted
[11:21] <hateball> shrinking is not a good idea however
[11:22] <ppf> hateball: with fdisk?
[11:22] <cotin> Im using webmin and php doesn't work with my vitrualmin it just outputs the php code. Tips anyone?
[11:23] <veysiubuntu> hi, i have a A4TECH optical mouse. it works on win but doesnt work on ubuntu 16.04 help pls??
[11:23] <hateball> ppf: right, no. you can indeed grow the filesystem and not the partition :)
[11:24] <hateball> ppf: I am just used to doing it all with LVM where that isnt a concern
[11:26] <cotin> Im using webmin and php doesn't work with my vitrualmin it just outputs the php code. Tips anyone?
[11:27] <cotin> Where is tatertots when i need him?
[11:28] <k1l> !webmin | cotin
[11:28] <k1l> cotin: did you enable the php module with apache2?
[11:31] <cotin> apache is enabled yes
[11:31] <k1l> no, php module in apache
[11:31] <cotin> can i check that from Virtualmin's config page?
[11:32] <k1l> i guess you should ask the webmin guys then if you want to rely on that
[11:32] <cotin> In virtual min it under PHP versions it says: Your system only has PHP version 7.0.13 installed, so selecting a different version for each directory is not possible.
[11:33] <cotin> So it IS installed with my newly created vitrual server.
[11:36] <liteon23> hey there! Does someone know how to get commercial DVDs to play on 16.04 ?  ( I already installed libdvdcss2 & ran 'dpkg-reconfigure ...')
[11:36] <Popzi> I have an ubuntu laptop and windows 10 laptop, is it possible to make the windows 10 laptop a display-only and plug it into ubuntu over hdmi?
[11:36] <FreePenguin> which one is better Ubuntu Mate or Xubuntu? In terms of features which has more?
[11:37] <k1l> cotin: without that webmin/virtualmin stuff. one installs the php packages on ubuntu, then a2enmod the php module. that works.
[11:37] <k1l> cotin: but since you rely on them, you better ask the webmin guys
[11:39] <cotin> Well everything worked just fine before i had to upgrade my BIOS. So i installed win7 for BIOS update and then installed 16.04.1 LTS again.
[11:42] <tatertots> cotin: hi
[11:42] <jimmyar> ehy
[11:42] <jimmyar> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[11:42] <jimmyar> i get when i run apt-get build-dep ?????/
[11:42] <jimmyar> What's wrong with it?
[11:42] <jimmyar> I didnt' edit sources.list at alll
[11:44] <hateball> jimmyar: well make sure you have deb-src entries for whatever you're trying to pull in
[11:44] <jimmyar> what?
[11:45] <jimmyar> sudo apt-get build-dep python-pandas
[11:45] <jimmyar> Reading package lists... Done
[11:45] <jimmyar> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[11:49] <glachas> there is version.hpp in boost showing in /usr/local/include/boost/ but when I am running dpkg -S /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp it is giving dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp
[11:49] <glachas> Why?
[11:52] <fedecupe> tomreyn so, do you have any idea?
[11:54] <tomreyn> fedecupe: on what?
[12:00] <glachas> here is version.hpp in boost showing in /usr/local/include/boost/ but when I am running dpkg -S /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp it is giving dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp .
[12:11] <glachas> here is version.hpp in boost showing in /usr/local/include/boost/ but when I am running dpkg -S /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp it is giving dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/include/boost/version.hpp
[12:11] <glachas> anyone ?
[12:13] <k1l> glachas: dpkg -S doesnt work with paths, does it?
[12:14] <glachas> it works because I tried it before
[12:15] <k1l> glachas: ah wait. it works with paths, but how did you install that boost?
[12:18] <k1l> glachas: because when you didnt install that with apt, apt could not know about it
[12:19] <glachas> k1l: First I downloaded the boost_1_54_0,  then build it
[12:19] <glachas> I installed with the apt only
[12:20] <glachas> k1l: ran this too, sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[12:24] <k1l_> glachas: that is not provided by that package on that location. that comes from your manual install
[12:25] <glachas> k1l: but I build it.
[12:26] <glachas> so when I am running some program then it should automatically detect boost
[12:26] <k1l_> looks like that build was not that clean when it puts data somewhere and doesnt tell the package system about it.
[12:27] <zamba> is it possible to define and user variables inside /etc/fstab?
[12:27] <zamba> and use*
[12:28] <glachas> k1l: Yes! that may be the problem because it was showing some error of target failure but I was not able to understand why
[12:36] <Guest44676> hi
[12:37] <Guest44676> i am installing vcphere vmware client on ubuntu 14.04 during the installation i get this error
[12:37] <Guest44676> Failed to install the hcmon drive
[12:38] <Guest44676> i searched in google and i found
[12:38] <Guest44676> https://www.lumension.com/kb/1688.aspx
[12:38] <Guest44676> Enable HCMON by creating a EnableHCMON registry value (DWORD type, Data 1) in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SK\Parameters.
[12:39] <Guest44676> what does it mean ?
[12:39] <Guest44676> what should i do in ubuntu ?
[12:40] <Guest44676> Disable the “hcmon” blocking functionality by creating a registry value (DWORD type, Data 1) in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SK\Parameters with the name EnableHCMON.
[12:41] <TvL2386> Guest44676, those are instructions for Windows, not Linux
[12:41] <Guest44676> TvL2386, then what is solution in ubuntu?
[12:41] <TvL2386> I have no idea
[12:42] <bumbar> if i lock the system, will cron jobs still run?
[12:42] <TvL2386> Guest44676, maybe this: https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2130850
[12:43] <Guest44676> TvL2386, i cant access to vmware site because i live at iran
[12:43] <Guest44676> if there is a solution say me that
[12:44] <TvL2386> Guest44676, This issue occurs if the vSphere Client is installed on the same system the VMRC installation is failing on.
[12:45] <Guest44676> TvL2386, and what should i do now?
[12:45] <TvL2386> Guest44676, This is a known issue affecting the VMRC.
[12:45] <TvL2386> Guest44676, Currently, there is no resolution.
[12:45] <TvL2386> Guest44676, To work around this issue: Uninstall all vSphere Client instances.
[12:45] <TvL2386> Guest44676, Note: A reboot of the host OS system may be required.
[12:45] <TvL2386> Guest44676, Install the VMRC.
[12:45] <TvL2386> Guest44676, Re-install all vSphere Client instances.
[12:45] <TvL2386> that's what the document says
[12:46] <Guest44676> okay
[12:47] <Guest44676> i cant download vmrc
[12:47] <Guest44676> its in vmware site
[12:47] <Guest44676> i dont have access
[12:48] <neure> hi
[12:48] <neure> how do i get latest clang (5?) for ubuntu 16.04 ?
[12:49] <Guest44676> TvL2386, can you download it for me please?
[12:50] <Guest44676> hey there?
[13:11] <neure> hello
[13:11] <neure> anyone used clang 5?
[13:12] <tarzeau_> do you use gnustep? or swift?
[13:16] <deus402> so i'm trying to get this bash script to work, and i can't quite figure out what i'm doing wrong. i'm trying to read in all files matching a glob to an array, then modify the filenames and copy them to another array. i need to be able to deal with spaces in the filenames. i'm sure i just have my syntax wrong somewhere, but i haven't done and shell scripting in years. here is what i have with
[13:16] <deus402> output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874577/
[13:18] <deus402> and here is what i get if i remove the quotes around my glob: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874628/
[13:18] <deus402> so i must be close.
[13:19] <sachin> Hello, I am thinking to use only console mode and start GUI only when I want to, I looked up for tutorial and found that they aren't working on 16.04. How can I boot into console mode only?
[13:20] <Southern_Gentlem> going to test that
[13:22] <ioria> sachin, sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target  (reverse with sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target)
[13:22] <TvL2386> deus402, what are you really trying to accomplish?
[13:23] <TvL2386> deus402, it may be me, but I don't see it
[13:23] <deus402> basically trying to add the word test before the file extension on each file in the example
[13:23] <sachin> then I will be able to boot to console next time I reboot?
[13:23] <deus402> so blah.mp4 becomes blah.test.mp4
[13:23] <ioria> yup
[13:24] <k1l_> sachin: yes, its like the kernel mode "text" before. (which doesnt work since systemd anymore)
[13:24] <Southern_Gentlem> sachin take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet
[13:26] <TvL2386> deus402, export file="song.mp4"
[13:26] <TvL2386> deus402, echo "${file%.*}.test.${file##*.}"
[13:29] <TvL2386> deus402, I would do something like: ls *.mp4 | while read file ; do mv "$file" "${file%.*}.test.${file##*.}" ; done
[13:29] <TvL2386> deus402, _UNTESTED_
[13:29] <deus402> 1) never parse ls
[13:29] <deus402> 2) i need to do a lot more stuff to the files besides rename them, hence i need a list of them in an array
[13:30] <KristijanZic> #bhyve
[13:31] <TvL2386> deus402, then I cannot help you... Whenever I need to do advanced stuff, I'm doing it in ruby or python and not bash
[13:32] <deus402> k, thanks for trying
[13:32] <TvL2386> yw!
[13:32] <deus402> for the record, your command does give the output i want, but does not work with the arrays.
[13:33] <TvL2386> deus402, I haven't given up yet :)
[13:33] <deus402> heh, me either.
[13:33] <deus402> probably not to late to just ditch my bash script and learn python, heh.
[13:34] <TvL2386> I'm gonna get there
[13:34] <TvL2386> give me a few minutes :)
[13:36] <ioria> deus402, rename files ? like pip.mp4 to pip.test.mp4 ?
[13:37] <deus402> not rename the files, change the filename and store it in a different array.
[13:37] <ioria> deus402, you can try this : rename 's/\.mp4$/.test.mp4/' *
[13:38] <ioria> deus402, oh
[13:38] <deus402> it's the array that's messing me up.
[13:39] <TvL2386> deus402, https://gist.github.com/TvL2386/1384eaec3dd2bbeeb7dcbfbbd35f1d34
[13:39] <TvL2386> cheating though, because it's not in place like you tried
[13:39] <TvL2386> also changed the output looping
[13:41] <k1l_> deus402: for mode extensive bash scripting i would ask in #bash
[13:41] <deus402> roger.
[13:41] <deus402> Thanks TvL2386
[13:41] <TvL2386> deus402, yw, if I do find something more cooler, don't hesitate to ping me :)
[13:43] <zerous> If I wanted to help with packaging, who might I contact ?
[13:47] <anon^_^> zerous, probably better asked in #ubuntu-community-team , #ubuntu-devel
[13:54] <ioria> deus402, array=(`rename 's/\.mp4$/.test.mp4/' * && ls *.mp4`)   and then you can echo ${array[@]}  , if i got you
[13:56] <deus402> solution: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874743/
[13:56] <deus402> TvL2386: i was using * instead of @
[13:56] <deus402> and missing quotes on my output loops.
[13:57] <markit> hi, is it normal that linux-firmware-nonfree is no more in 16.04? Does it have changed name by chance?
[13:58] <deus402> ioria: thanks for the solution. everything i have been reading in the last couple hours though says it's a bad idea to parse ls output, i got it figured out though.
[13:58] <ioria> deus402, ok, but the filename does not change in your script ...
[13:59] <ioria> deus402, i thought you wanted to change it (for real, i mean)
[14:01] <sruli1> in lubuntu 16.04 how can i set the screen brightness on a notebook? hardware buttuns dont do it (while booted in win hardware buttons do work)
[14:02] <ioria> sruli1, xrandr --output myscreen  --brightness 0.7  , for example
[14:02] <TvL2386> hey deus402. I notice your second file is missing .orig in the name
[14:03] <ioria> sruli1,  where myscreen is vga, dp or whatever
[14:03] <TvL2386> deus402, I'm not convinced why parsing ls output is bad... I'm curious though
[14:04] <TvL2386> I use `ls * | while read file` or `find ...... | while read file` constructions quite often
[14:05] <sruli> ioria: how do i find the name of my output?
[14:05] <ioria> sruli1, xxrandr
[14:06] <ioria> sruli1, xrandr | grep -w connected
[14:06] <deus402> TvL2386: missed that...
[14:06] <elias_a> What is a good reasonably sized live cd for running chrootkit?
[14:07] <sruli> ioria: it seems its already set to 1.0 but its a far cry from bright! (btw, i reconnected as 'sruli')
[14:07] <elias_a> Or does not have to be a live cd. The important thing is the possibility to update the sw and signatures if needed.
[14:08] <elias_a> So: which techie toolkit would you carry with you?
[14:08] <deus402> TvL2386: fixed https://paste.ubuntu.com/23874840/
[14:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[14:08] <SnooZerD> I would like to ask how to have 16.10 server start booting in a font such as 8x16 and stay this size, until the login prompt.
[14:09] <TvL2386> deus402, nope. in and out are the same :)
[14:09] <TvL2386> back to the drawing board
[14:10] <deus402> lol, need more sleep i guess.
[14:10] <deus402> also, you may be right: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128985/why-not-parse-ls
[14:10] <TvL2386> definitely if you missed that :P
[14:11] <SigmaTel> Hi!
[14:11] <deus402> literally every question on serverfault or stackexhange or whatever  has comments berating the parsing of ls, so, like the article says, i just accepted it wholesale.
[14:12] <SigmaTel> Can anybody help me with setting up WLAN in Ubuntu MinimalCD?
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SigmaTel, uh minimal cd ?
[14:13] <SigmaTel> yep
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> what's that?
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> also sounds like something that will lack wireless drivers etc as well
[14:13] <SigmaTel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> proably the basic cut down thing
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if thre is stil one sure
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SigmaTel, are you after a grapphical user interface and such as well
[14:13] <SigmaTel> my WLAN card is by Broadcom, with those proprietrary drivers.
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if so better to use the standard desktop iso
[14:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SigmaTel, might be able to find a driver in additional drivers
[14:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> searfch for that
[14:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> in  unity interface
[14:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !wireless
[14:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SigmaTel, broadcomm generally seems to need a propritary driver yes
[14:15] <SigmaTel> SebthreeBQM10HD: I have found the linux-image-extra for a kernel which I need, but repack of the initrd.gz gave me nothing
[14:15] <SigmaTel> The standard ISO installs too many useless things for me.
[14:16] <SigmaTel> If anybody interested, the link is here - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2350667
[14:17] <ngochai> Hi guys, my system reboots itself everyday at 6.25am, how do I find out why?
[14:17] <SigmaTel> WiFiDocs doesn't have an article about BCM4312
[14:18] <SnooZerD> I would like to ask how to have 16.10 server start booting in a font such as 8x16 and stay this size, until the login prompt.
[14:18] <Guest82033> mazilla non funsiona
[14:19] <TvL2386> hey deus402 thanks for the link. Yeah I understand there could be corner-cases where parsing `ls` output would not work. In such a case where you do have to handle weird filenames, I fall back to using a programming language instead of bash scripting. Interesting read that why-not-parse-ls
[14:21] <TvL2386> deus402, just use the right hammer for the right tool. And this is all fun and interesting, but when you just want to accomplish something, just create what you need. For your case a simple oneliner is enough. If you want something cool that always works, spend more time and craft something cool
[14:22] <Jharm> hello everyone, i have set up a local server and i'm having issues finding the domain from http. But for some reason i can see the domain from https. i have my server benind an AP client. This allows me to connect it to my router wirelessly, i'm thinking this might be my issue. Any suggestesing?
[14:23] <TvL2386> deus402, ruby -e "Dir.glob('*.mp4').each { |f| puts f.gsub(/\.mp4$/, '.test.mp4') }"
[14:24] <TvL2386> deus: and if you want the new filenames in an array: ruby -e "array = Dir.glob('*.mp4').map { |f| f.gsub(/\.mp4$/, '.test.mp4') }"
[14:25] <Southern_Gentlem> Jharm, sounds like you have a forward from http to https setup
[14:25] <Jharm> i think i crossed all my T and dotted all my i
[14:25] <Jharm> i check all config files and they all seem right
[14:26] <Jharm> i have both port 80 and 443 openend and listening.
[14:27] <Phantom> hi all
[14:28] <Jharm> i was thing of just getting the ssl certificate, but its driving me crazy that i cant get it to work.. lol
[14:28] <PhantomAn0n> anybody knnow how to change background and font collor in mirc ?
[14:28] <deus402> TvL2386: heh, thanks
[14:30] <PhantomAn0n> test
[14:32] <boycer> !test
[14:34] <Southern_Gentlem> PhantomAn0n,  read the mirc documentation
[14:35] <PhantomAn0n> i did
[14:35] <PhantomAn0n> i dont want to use a picture as background
[14:35] <PhantomAn0n> just for example collor black on white letters
[14:35] <PhantomAn0n> instead of white on black letters
[14:39] <sobczyk> is there any way to decrease pendrive write buffer, without going to extreme with sync mount option?
[14:40] <sobczyk> I have a problem when copy operation is finished, but the data keeps syncing for the next few minutes
[14:40] <sobczyk> it's a huge usability problem
[14:44] <liteon23> anyone got an idea for this problem: admin-user can play a DVD, non-admin user can access the DVD but gets decoding errors. (ubuntu 16.04, vlc, libdvdcss2 installed)
[14:45] <liteon23> ^non-admin user is in group cdrom
[14:45] <liteon23> could this be policykit related?
[14:50] <liteon23> ^what other types of permissions are given to an admin-user besides group-memberships? (where and how?)
[14:51] <quem> hello folks. running 16.04 LTS. what's the most convenient way of always having the latest version of btrfs?
[14:54] <Onepamopa> http://pastebin.com/QsCULZRw  -- can someone tell me how to configure grub2 40_custom to boot freebsd, I tried a few times, only getting "invalid signature" ..
[14:56] <PipeItToDevNull> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#FreeBSD_menu_entry
[14:56] <Jharm> hey liteon23 i had a similar permission issue with ftp. i had to create the group and give write access to the user. i think you can use:
[14:58] <PhantomAn0n> hi all
[14:59] <PhantomAn0n> quiet here like in most channels :P
[15:01] <Onepamopa> PipeItToDevNull, yeah that helped me a "lot", how do I know what to write here: set root='hd0,gpt4,bsd1' ?
[15:02] <PhantomAn0n> ?
[15:02] <PhantomAn0n> just talk to yourself :P
[15:03] <Onepamopa> do you do that often ?
[15:03] <PipeItToDevNull> Is there only 1 HDD?
[15:03] <Onepamopa> yes, there is only 1 hdd with 6 partitions
[15:03] <Onepamopa> 3 linux partitions, 3 bsd partitions
[15:03] <Onepamopa> all clearly visible here:  http://pastebin.com/QsCULZRw
[15:03] <PipeItToDevNull> What part number is BSD? I am unsure of how GPT counts partitions though
[15:04] <Onepamopa> have you opened the pastebin ?
[15:04] <Onepamopa> or your just talking for the sake of talking
[15:04] <PipeItToDevNull> Ok so Onepamopa, according to that page sda4 should correspond to gpt4
[15:04] <PipeItToDevNull> So just use the same partition #
[15:05] <Onepamopa> hd4 ?
[15:05] <PipeItToDevNull> gpt4
[15:05] <Onepamopa> 4,0
[15:05] <Onepamopa> grub doesn't see gpt4, it sees sda4
[15:05] <PipeItToDevNull> grub sees GPT
[15:06] <Onepamopa> okay, testing with root 'gpt4'
[15:06] <PipeItToDevNull> That is assuming BSD is on sda4
[15:07] <Onepamopa> sda4 is bsd's bootloader
[15:07] <Onepamopa> "invalid signature"
[15:07] <Onepamopa> trying with gpt5 ..
[15:09] <Speiros> Hey:)
[15:11] <nicomachus> hi Speiros
[15:12] <Speiros> Hi there nicomachus:)
[15:13] <jnewt> when i go to add a new printer from network, each of our network printers shows up twice, once as "LPD network printer", once as "IPP network printer via DNS-SD), does it matter which I chose?
[15:14] <PipeItToDevNull> Use the first
[15:14] <jnewt> and driver from "gutenprint"?
[15:16] <PipeItToDevNull> I do not know about that, if one is needed I get it from the manufacturer
[15:18] <jnewt> manufacturer offers two drivers for linux, cups or lpr, no lpd or ipp
[15:18] <ppf> those are different things
[15:19] <ppf> lpd and ipp are protocols to talk to printers over a network
[15:20] <tatertots> jnewt: are you in physical possession of the driver from the manufacture? yes or no
[15:20] <jnewt> tatertots: no, I have not downloaded either of those from the brother website.
[15:21] <tatertots> jnewt: oh it's a brother?...just install the brother printer linux software
[15:22] <tatertots> jnewt: don't think about it too hard...it's simple and easy to over think
[15:22] <tatertots> jnewt: just install the software from bother
[15:22] <jnewt> tatertots: which software?
[15:23] <jnewt> there's all kinds of stuff, nothing that just says "brother printer linux software"
[15:23] <tatertots> jnewt: here i'll do it for you...provide me the make and model number
[15:23] <tatertots> jnewt: model #
[15:24] <jnewt> "Driver Install Tool"?
[15:24] <tatertots> jnewt: yes that
[15:24] <tatertots> jnewt: install it
[15:24] <jnewt> HL-2360D, HL-2380DW, and two others are on the network, but I really only need those two
[15:25] <tatertots> jnewt: just a heads up but not required..do you know the ip address of the brother printer?..if you do not know do not worry about it
[15:26] <ppf> just use the gutenprint driver ...
[15:26] <dagerik> im getting Failed to get properties: No such interface '' from systemctl. what does this mean
[15:26] <ppf> manufacturer driver are figuratively always broken
[15:27] <tatertots> hmmm brother and HP make linux software for their printers but i digress.....HPLIP isn't broken..it's got a solid reputation and it's mature and been around a long time...but again i digress
[15:28] <Stevvo> Hi
[15:29] <tatertots> not here to enter into any urinating contests with any of you guys...just informing a "brother" printer owner that "brother" has linux software
[15:29] <jackNemrod> Can anyone help me in writing a part of my preseed file? I would like partman take /dev/sda as /boot and /dev/sdb for the LVM (whole disk). I don't understand how to do it
[15:29] <jackNemrod> It's possible, isn't it?
[15:29] <Stevvo> How Do I open the configuration menu on xchat-gnome?
[15:29] <Stevvo> nvm, found it
[15:29] <PipeItToDevNull> Damn, we are quick
[15:29] <alias_neo> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 16 has the ability to do IPoFC? I bought a QLogic fibre channel card I'd like to use to hook my server upto my switch
[15:30] <tatertots> alias_neo: check the qlogic documentation for your card
[15:31] <Onepamopa> By the way, is there a way to encrypt a hdd/ssd via password supplied in the bios, without the need to reenter the password on each boot? In essence - to "lock" the disk to this motherboard. ?
[15:31] <tatertots> alias_neo: or just post the model# and we'll research it for you
[15:31] <tatertots> alias_neo: it's not hard to do
[15:32] <Anticom> Hi all. I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 16 LTS. I've just installed a windows instance in virtualbox. I wanted the guest additions so i went ahead and installed it. It had to be downloaded first. Now (and also after several reboots) my pc just locks up as soon as i launch the first gui application
[15:32] <Anticom> I suspect that some .ko might have been installed etc. ? Because the guest addition is supposed to live in in the guest only, right?
[15:33] <Anticom> Is this a known issue? Or shall i rather head over to #virtualbox?
[15:33] <tatertots> Anticom: is vt enabled?
[15:33] <tatertots> Anticom: if you are unsure best head over to #vbox
[15:33] <Anticom> tatertots: how can i tell? I've switched to another tty so i get at least a shell
[15:34] <Anticom> but i'm not that much of a linux pro
[15:34] <tatertots> Anticom: head over to #vbox i'll help you there...you know how easily someone will claim you are off topic
[15:34] <tatertots> Anticom: so best get out of here now
[15:35] <himcesjf> /part
[15:35] <himcesjf> er
[15:36] <alias_neo> tatertots: I have the QLE2462
[15:37] <alias_neo> tatertots: I have got as far as loading the HBA driver and I can see the fc_host device
[15:37] <alias_neo> but my knowledge of fibre is zero so this is a learning exercise, sadly most of the references i can find online are not for ubuntu/debian
[15:38] <tatertots> alias_neo: according to http://www.qlogic.com/Resources/Documents/DataSheets/Adapters/Datasheet_2400Series_FCAdapter.pdf
[15:39] <tatertots> alias_neo: it says to go here http://driverdownloads.qlogic.com/QLogicDriverDownloads_UI/Defaultnewsearch.aspx
[15:40] <tatertots> alias_neo: and that says red hat and sles are supported...officially from the qlogic perspective
[15:40] <alias_neo> tatertots, been there, they have only drivers for windows server, RHEL and solaris :(
[15:40] <tatertots> alias_neo: so if you want support from the company who made the darn card...that answer is no
[15:41] <alias_neo> tatertots: I wouldn't expect that... I'm a linux user :D
[15:41] <huggybear404> I get grub-install dummy failed installing to usb disk, is there a way to fix that ?
[15:42] <tatertots> alias_neo: if you have problems with the card and try to escalate to qlogic and their support guys get wind you're using it in ubuntu...they can officially tell you to go suck an egg
[15:43] <alias_neo> tatertots: Yeah, I understand, I'm quite happy to do this purely on community support if possible
[15:46] <tatertots> alias_neo: is the card installed in the box now?
[15:46] <alias_neo> tatertots: Yes
[15:46] <tatertots> alias_neo: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[15:48] <tatertots> alias_neo: let me know when it's installed
[15:49] <alias_neo> sure, one moment, need to get a network connection up
[15:49] <tomreyn> hi. i use lvm on top of dmcrypt-luks on top of mdadm raid-1's, and run into timeouts while rebooting: http://i.imgur.com/jdqU3NI.png
[15:50] <tomreyn> that's on 16.04.1 with all updates installed, no 3rd party packages
[15:50] <RWOverdijk> I'm about to buy a new laptop, and I was curious if anyone here could help me figure out (before I buy it) if it'll run kubuntu. http://pricecat.be/en_sg/p/asus/90nb0bh2-m09330/4712900540451-R558UQ-DM741T-33280611.html
[15:51] <tomreyn> has anyone else run into these timeouts?
[15:53] <tomreyn> also "stoppping" (3 'p') ooks like a typo to me :)
[15:55] <ppf> tomreyn: do those occur on every shutdown?
[15:55] <ppf> it's a somewhat known problem with systemd
[15:55] <ppf> is one of those volumes your swap?
[15:56] <digbychicken> RWOverdijk, that system should do fine. I can't see any reason it wouldn't.
[15:56] <tomreyn> ppf: yes, and yes. but *i think* it only started recently, so *i assume* it was likely introduced by an update.
[15:56] <RWOverdijk> digbychicken, Thank you. I'm sorry, I can be a bit of a... chicken
[15:56] <digbychicken> RWOverdijk, minimum/recommended kubuntu requirements here: http://askubuntu.com/a/333864
[15:56] <alias_neo> tatertots: ok, they're installed
[15:57] <RWOverdijk> digbychicken, yeah, this is... this is better. I'm pretty sure I can run it :p
[15:57] <ppf> tomreyn: it's possible that this is a memory issue. if you're deactivating swap, swapped contents need to be migrated back into memory. if that's out of space then swapoff fails and dm-crypt will timeout
[15:57] <digbychicken> RWOverdijk, I've installed kubuntu on much less and it's done great.
[15:58] <RWOverdijk> digbychicken, To be honest I was aiming more towards drivers and stuff
[15:58] <ppf> at least that's a theory i discussed with the systemd people couple months backl
[15:58] <RWOverdijk> I've had a lot of issues with wifi, display etc in the past
[15:58] <tomreyn> ppf: this system has ~ 30 GB unallocated RAM available in standard operation. swap is smaller than that.
[15:58] <tatertots> alias_neo: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[15:58] <tatertots> alias_neo: share url/link here
[15:59] <digbychicken> RWOverdijk, I haven't had an issue w/ drivers on Asus systems.
[15:59] <ppf> tomreyn: hm
[15:59] <ppf> tomreyn: i have no other idea, then. if you figure it out, though, let me know!
[15:59] <RWOverdijk> digbychicken, alright then. Thank you :)
[15:59] <digbychicken> RWOverdijk, the only thing you might have to do is install the NVidia drivers (if you get the model w/ a dedicated NVidia card)
[15:59] <ppf> maybe show that to #systemd directly?
[15:59] <digbychicken> RWOverdijk, but it will run w/ the open source drivers until you do
[16:01] <RWOverdijk> digbychicken, Awesome, thanks for the heads up :)
[16:03] <tomreyn> ppf: actually i was mistaken, sorry, there is no swap configured.
[16:03] <tomreyn> but i guess this doesn't change things.
[16:04] <tomreyn> ppf: since you point out it is a known issue / shortcoming of systemd, are you aware of any bug reports on it? i searched the web but could not find anything matching this specific issue.
[16:07] <tatertots> alias_neo: i'm going for coffee bbiab
[16:08] <alias_neo> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23875428
[16:08] <alias_neo> tatertots: no problem, also, I'm not sure the info is useful, the card isn't mentioned, and the rest of the system spec is irrelevent (mostly) as it's not the server the card will sit in eventually, it's a workstation I'm on while setting up
[16:10] <tatertots> alias_neo: it's mainly to check your os version details and minors, but mostly to check your aptitude in getting support info to me in a timely manner
[16:10] <tatertots> alias_neo: bbiab
[16:11] <tatertots> alias_neo: in terminal>     lspci -v|pastebinit
[16:11] <tatertots> alias_neo: share url/link here
[16:13] <user11011> hi
[16:13] <PipeItToDevNull> Hi
[16:13] <snkcld> hi
[16:14] <user11011> This is my first time on irc, just tring it out =)
[16:17] <alias_neo> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23875463/
[16:20] <PipeItToDevNull> IRC is fun, try the irssi client
[16:21] <niee> hi folks. any one to help me please? i have a problem http://pastebin.com/UrE5TPpC
[16:23] <zykotick9> niee: <just two quick sidenotes> 1) it's probably best to at least give some "hint" at what your issue is about on irc in addition to the link and 2) you might want to consider using a different paste site to pastebin .com  fyi ubuntu has a paste.ubuntu.com  -- best of luck with your issue (whatever it might be)
[16:24] <tatertots> alias_neo: looks good
[16:25] <tatertots> alias_neo: again not officially supported from the qlogic perspective but the module is loaded
[16:29] <alias_neo> tatertots: So any idea how I get it to do IP given the HBA is loaded? I have no idea how I make it a network device
[16:29] <alias_neo> tatertots: ifconfig -a doesn't list it, perhaps I have to "create" a device some how?
[16:29] <tatertots> alias_neo: the ROM isn't loaded
[16:29] <tatertots> alias_neo: standby i'll illustrate
[16:30] <tatertots> alias_neo: Expansion ROM at fbd40000 [disabled] [size=256K]
[16:32] <alias_neo> tatertots: Ok, I have access to the firmware files, but how do I load a ROM?
[16:37] <adalbert> emulator?
[16:38] <tatertots> alias_neo: have you installed the firmware
[16:39] <ppf> tomreyn: no, i'm not aware of anything like that. but i've heard of it plenty of times
[16:42] <alias_neo> tatertots: not yet, I was planning on manually copying them out of the rpm on the official site into the /lib/firmware directory...
[16:42]  * unreg_nick wonders if weechat is any better than irssi
[16:42] <ladidadida_> Hi there, what can I do on an Ubuntu Tablet to update ca certificates? Should this be updated by ubuntu update?
[16:43] <tatertots> alias_neo: you won't get very far without that firmware being in place
[16:45] <alias_neo> tatertots: oops, ok, let me do that first
[16:54] <tomreyn> thanks p p f
[16:58] <pvl1> hey all, im running ubuntu on a pcduino's NAND. im wondering if i can use the sd bootable image, and use it to upgrade my nand
[17:00] <zerous> at what time are #ubuntu-community & #ubuntu-devel usually active ?
[17:00] <zerous> *is
[17:01] <Anticom> I think i boiled down my issue. 'xinput test <id of the mouse>' does record the movement but no click
[17:01] <Anticom> What could cause such issue?
[17:02] <pf100> zerous: lurk for 24 hours and look at the timestamps. Gives you a good idea. Works in any channel (except ones that don't allow lurking)
[17:02] <Anticom> Especially being related to messing with virtualbox guest additions?
[17:04] <Anticom> This is what dmesg is giving me when i unplugged my mouse and plugged it back into another port: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23875684/
[17:04] <Anticom> looks good to me, so i don't get where the exact problem is
[17:06] <Anticom> Any help in further diagnosing the problem?
[17:06] <OerHeks> Anticom, i just joined, is this a mouse issue on a laptop?
[17:08] <Anticom> OerHeks: No, it's old server hardware i'm using as my workstation
[17:08] <Anticom> i'm on ubuntu 16 LTS
[17:09] <Anticom> I've set up a virtualbox windows 10 vm and downloaded + installed the guest additions. Since then my Host OS is giving me this issue even if the VM isn't running
[17:09] <Anticom> I've even gone through completly removing virtualbox from my host but the problem still exists
[17:09] <Anticom> I just can't figure out what exactly is wrong and as a consequence how to fix it
[17:10] <OerHeks> I noticed fresh guest additions update, few minutes ago.
[17:10] <Anticom> OerHeks: well there should be nothing left of vbox anymore. I've also checked the *.ko's
[17:12] <Anticom> OerHeks: Any ideas what could be going wrong on my machine?
[17:12] <dirtylifeandtime> is it good practice to move an executable into a directory already included in $PATH instead of adding a directory to the $PATH??
[17:13] <Anticom> dirtylifeandtime: depends i'd say
[17:13] <nacc> dirtylifeandtime: depends on the directory you are referring to
[17:13] <OerHeks> Anticom, no idea, mouse seems detected, so that serverboard has open usb ports. else i would look into the bios for disable usb
[17:13] <alias_neo> tatertots: Firmware was already installed it seems, dmesg says iscsi driver is loaded, I'm not sure what else to look for? You said it mentioned ROM not eing loaded?
[17:14] <dirtylifeandtime> nacc: it's Apache Directory Studio...right now it's just in my ~/Downloads
[17:14] <Anticom> OerHeks: Well the movement is recognized by xinput. I'm puzzled
[17:15] <nacc> dirtylifeandtime: I'm assuming it's not just an executable, but an entire "studio", which might depend on relative paths to where you run it from. So it's (completely guessing) possibly it's not as simple as just moving a script
[17:17] <dirtylifeandtime> nacc: you're right. it depends on a lot of other files in the same directory
[17:19] <PipeItToDevNull> I wanna cuddle me some heroin
[17:20] <Anticom> I just got my collegues mouse and tested it using xinput test. There even left mouse click is recorded. However the UI doesn't respond to clicks / d'n'd
[17:20] <Anticom> i don't get this
[17:24] <ioria> Anticom, and what gui is that ?
[17:26] <tatertots> alias_neo: have you attempted to present a LUN to the system?
[17:27] <tatertots> Anticom: were you able to debug things? if not produce a report and have it analyzed
[17:28] <alias_neo> tatertots: no, I'm not familiar with the terminology, do you mean, hook it up to my switch?
[17:29] <Anticom> tatertots, OerHeks : OMG i solved it. You'll never guess it. My left mousebutton just broke silently. I wasn't testing the other mouse properly
[17:29] <alias_neo> tatertots: I haven't hooked up anything to it yet, but I can...
[17:29] <Anticom> Switching to anothere mouse just fixed the problem, so that's at least what i'm assuming
[17:30] <OerHeks> Anticom :-)
[17:36] <tatertots> alias_neo: what were you planning on doing with the card?
[17:37] <nacc> dirtylifeandtime: it seems like what you actually want to do is 'install' it, for some definition of that specificy to the tool you're trying to use
[17:38] <koen_> Hi for some reason internet inside ubuntu which is installed in vmware is not working
[17:38] <koen_> what can be done
[17:38] <koen_> any fix?
[17:39] <nicomachus> !patience | koen_
[17:40] <SynfulAck> Anyone know how to get powerline installed on tmux?
[17:41] <kang0> Any windows or Android expert?
[17:41] <tatertots> koen_: what nic/vnic settings are you using?.....if this gets much deeper than this...one of these guys will say you're offtopic....best head to #vmware and i'll help you there
[17:41] <nacc> kang0: i feel like neither of those are ontopic for this channel
[17:42] <BluesKaj> kang0, no support here for either of those OSs
[17:42] <nacc> SynfulAck: `apt install powerline` then read the documentation?
[17:42] <kang0> What's difference between iso and IMG file
[17:43] <SynfulAck> nacc, its unclear to me, idk where to get a tmux.conf file, the last one i tried broke functionality.
[17:44] <nacc> SynfulAck: it's shipped by the package afaict?
[17:44] <pavlos> koen_, try setting the network adapter to bridge instead of nat and try again
[17:44] <nacc> SynfulAck: well, not tmux.conf,but tmux/powerline.conf (which you'd presumable source in your tmux.conf)
[17:46] <nacc> SynfulAck: https://powerline.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage/other.html
[17:48] <alias_neo> tatertots: I was planning on giving an extra couple of gigabit links into the SFP ports on my switch
[17:48] <alias_neo> tatertots: from the server
[17:48] <SynfulAck> nacc, i didnt use pip to install the stuff, i used the package manager.
[17:49] <nacc> SynfulAck: yes, read the docs to see how to configure it, please
[17:49] <nacc> SynfulAck: specifically "Tmux statusline"
[17:49] <Guest5607> Hi, I get dropped to initramfs by Grub2. I would like to unlock my LUKS drive via cryptsetup but the command is not available. Is there a module missing?
[17:50] <wyre> what do you think about use that to ubuntu server 16.04? http://askubuntu.com/questions/57220/start-vboxheadless-vm-at-startup
[17:50] <SynfulAck> nacc, yeah but for the repository root it wants me to use pip.
[17:53] <nacc> SynfulAck: powerline contains: /usr/share/powerline/bindings/tmux/powerline.conf
[17:54] <koen_> pavlos: right now its bridged.i have managed to change.but even now i am not getting it.. any fix for this?
[17:55] <pavlos> koen_, I dont use vmware, it was a suggestion. I have no way of testing this
[17:56] <nacc> SynfulAck: or you could have done what I said earlier and just read the shipped documentation: /usr/share/doc/powerline/README.Debian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876011/
[17:56] <SynfulAck> nacc, got it now, path is different and discovered you dont even need a legit tmux.conf
[17:57] <koen_> anyone else?
[17:57] <SynfulAck> giggity giggity goo
[17:58] <tatertots> alias_neo: what protocol did you plan on using to accomplish this task?
[17:59] <alias_neo> tatertots: tcp/ip?
[18:00] <tatertots> alias_neo: i don't see it listed in the datasheet http://www.qlogic.com/Resources/Documents/DataSheets/Adapters/Datasheet_2400Series_FCAdapter.pdf
[18:02] <tatertots> alias_neo: you might be better served by obtaining some additional 10/100/1000 network adapters that connect via a slot on the board or even usb 3.0
[18:03] <alias_neo> tatertots: That would be unfortunate, the goal was to free up two of the existing ports on my Ubnt switch by switching the server to the fiber channel and I could use the currently unused SFP ports on the switch
[18:05] <alias_neo> Is there likely to be anything I can use the connection between this card and my switch for? Even if I re-imlpement my ZFS pool using them, or am I just trying to use incompatible hardware? In which case I just wasted a bit of cash on some useless kit ;)
[18:05] <tatertots> alias_neo: according to http://www.qlogic.com/Resources/Documents/DataSheets/Adapters/Datasheet_2400Series_FCAdapter.pdf  that would be using the hardware outside of it's use case as per the manufacture, not saying you can't but it's so far out in "unsupported" land..you'd be out there by yourself in doing so
[18:07] <alias_neo> tatertots: The fact they supply the following software is what gave me the idea it'd work; "FC-FCoE, iSCSI, and Ethernet Networking drivers"
[18:09] <wyre> hi guys, I've not wired connection in gnome-control-center
[18:09] <tatertots> alias_neo: the ip portion is encapsulated, you would have to do and be able to do some heavy duty reverse engineering to work that out..depending on how much your time is worth (to you) it might be worth trying
[18:10] <alias_neo> tatertots: It's worth too much to bother with that, I'll just buy another card.
[18:11] <alias_neo> tatertots: Anything you can suggest I look at in particular?
[18:13] <tatertots> alias_neo: hmmm if your goal is truly to 'free up ports on switch' ......i'd suggest obtaining an additional switch
[18:13] <gusgg_> I have some files in /etc and I'd like to know which package put them there.
[18:13] <tatertots> alias_neo: i know the cost thing is there...but you did say you needed to free up ports....as in you do not have enough ports
[18:14] <EriC^^> gusgg_: dpkg -S /etc/stuff
[18:14] <gusgg_> EriC^^: thanks, I'll give this a try
[18:14] <tatertots> alias_neo: and when one does not have enough ports on ones switch...one would obtain a additional switch to increase port density/capcity
[18:15] <alias_neo> tatertots: Absolutely understand, but this is for home use, I'm trying to learn,play and hopefully take advantage of a couple of free SFP ports on my new switch
[18:15] <alias_neo> tatertots: obviously I haden't realised how different FC was to anything else i've used before
[18:16] <RWOverdijk> Quick, probably stupid question. I want to install kubuntu on a laptop I _just_ bought, but does it matter if I use UEFI or legacy?
[18:16] <RWOverdijk> It seems that legacy would be easier, but maybe it's also worse. I don't know.
[18:16] <tatertots> alias_neo: the card you have is designed for enterprise class storage
[18:17] <alias_neo> tatertots: Yeah, I probably picked up the wrong one, I'd read around about some "old" FC cards that could be repurposed for 1G home fibre
[18:18] <alias_neo> tatertots: From what you're saying, this is the wrong card
[18:20] <alias_neo> tatertots: Is there a freeware OS I could hook this up with to use it to create a SAN then? Or am I still barking up the wrong tree?
[18:21] <EriC^^> RWOverdijk: uefi is 1sec quicker to boot
[18:21] <alias_neo> say VyOS or something?
[18:22] <EriC^^> RWOverdijk: if you can install in uefi you might as well, isn't the laptop already with windows and uefi?
[18:22] <RWOverdijk> EriC^^, it is.
[18:22] <RWOverdijk> Also omaigosh a full second?
[18:22] <RWOverdijk> I don't know anything about this uefi stuff. So I think it's easiest to go full legacy then?
[18:23] <EriC^^> lol
[18:23] <EriC^^> RWOverdijk: up to you
[18:23] <EriC^^> i was going to go on about why it's better but whatever i figured the might as well would be enough
[18:24] <RWOverdi_> "switched to wifi, so I might drop off" jup haha...
[18:24] <EriC^^> it's like trading in a new car for an old carb'd POS cause it's too complicated
[18:24] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, sorry for that
[18:24] <EriC^^> np, just yanking your chain a little
[18:25] <RWOverdi_> But, if it doesn't change anything, why should I? Really curious, because the internet says don't use it. But it sounds like a til foil hat kind of guy
[18:25] <KristijanZic> Hi! Is there some web api for snaps like there is for clicks like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ClickPackageIndex  ? I had some free time and have developed some ubuntu webstore in Angular just need to connect it to something if there is an api.
[18:26] <nacc> KristijanZic: may want to ask in #snappy
[18:26] <RWOverdi_> "UEFI brings a heck of a lot of disadvantages with it and no advantages. Don't use it. You're basically giving away control of your own computer to corporations. Don't do that, that's a bad idea."
[18:26] <KristijanZic> nacc: did that, no answer.
[18:28] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: well here's the deal, it's the new bios, it's well thought out and way better than the old bios, but some companies make it a little difficult to install os other than microsoft
[18:28] <Amm0n> RWOverdi_, that's right, but that's a little late. You already bought an UEFI device which only emulates legacy bios
[18:29] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: it's not difficult to trick it into loading other os usually
[18:29] <RWOverdi_> Oh...
[18:30] <RWOverdi_> I'll attempt to install it with uefi after legacy
[18:30] <RWOverdi_> See if I can spot the difference
[18:30] <EriC^^> hp and lenovo are the most notorious ones for bad implementations
[18:30] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: there is no real difference
[18:30] <RWOverdi_> It's a lenovo ideapad
[18:30] <RWOverdi_> (700)
[18:31] <RWOverdi_> Wait but, if there's no difference, why does it matter then?
[18:31] <nacc> KristijanZic: it seems like you're getting answers just fine, maybe impatient?
[18:31] <RWOverdi_> I've dealt with noobs in my field so I know how frustrating I must be to you right now
[18:32] <RWOverdi_> Oh I think I already broke it
[18:32] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: well you have more control over some aspects, like in bios there's just the mbr and it can hold only 1 bootloader, in uefi there's a efi partition which can have many bootloaders at the same time
[18:33] <RWOverdi_> Ah. But you usually only need one, right
[18:34] <ioria> RWOverdi_, and maybe take a look at this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/743996/ubuntu-on-lenovo-y700-2016
[18:34] <EriC^^> well, if you remove ubuntu then you need a windows cd for instance if you hadn't backed up the mbr
[18:36] <KristijanZic> nacc, that seems to be the case yes XD
[18:36] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, I feel like I did something too quick then... And I already messed it up... It installed, it's set to legacy, but it's saying... media test failure
[18:37] <pitastrudl> i cannot seem to zoom in qpdfview on xubuntu xenial lts
[18:37] <pitastrudl> i tried reinstalling the package
[18:37] <blueking> what filesystem to choose when add new hdd to ubuntu 16.04    size are 8TB...
[18:37] <EriC^^> blueking: ext4 is fine
[18:38] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: you set the bios to legacy then installed ubuntu?
[18:38] <blueking> tried google for add new hdd on ubuntu without gui
[18:38] <Amm0n> blueking, make sure it got a GPT Partition table
[18:38] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: can you boot a live usb on it?
[18:38] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, correct
[18:38] <RWOverdi_> Yes
[18:38] <RWOverdi_> http://askubuntu.com/a/401605
[18:38] <EriC^^> with an internet connection?
[18:38] <RWOverdi_> I'll try this?
[18:38] <RWOverdi_> Yep
[18:38] <EriC^^> type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:38] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[18:39] <EriC^^> blueking: also type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:40] <RWOverdi_> Ok
[18:40] <blueking> what are 9999 ?
[18:40] <EriC^^> blueking: port number
[18:40] <Amm0n> it
[18:40] <pitastrudl> nevermind, had to also wipe the configs
[18:40] <pitastrudl> works now
[18:40] <Amm0n> nvm
[18:40] <blueking> EriC^^ was that addressed to wrong guy ?
[18:40] <EriC^^> blueking: no
[18:42] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/l6la
[18:42] <oscar__> Hi, from Chile
[18:43] <blueking> why would I need to connect net to install hdd ?
[18:44] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: try setting a boot flag on the first partition just in case, and if it still doesn't work try some hdd settings in the bios
[18:44] <Amm0n> blueking, it's to show us your actual partitionlayout
[18:44] <blueking> ah
[18:44] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, What's.. What's a boot flag?
[18:45] <Amm0n> blueking, try the command without the part after | and see if you want to share this informations
[18:45] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: type "sudo fdisk /dev/nvme0n1"
[18:46] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: press "a" then press 1 for the first partition, it's a flag the bios sometimes needs present before booting the mbr
[18:46] <EriC^^> most likely you need some hdd setting changed in the bios though
[18:47] <blueking> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876257/
[18:47] <EriC^^> blueking: looks good, you can mount them from the filemanager i guess
[18:48] <EriC^^> or sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt  (and /dev/sdc1 for the 2nd)
[18:48] <blueking> why is ssd fat32 ?
[18:48] <EriC^^> blueking: that's an efi partition
[18:48] <blueking> oh
[18:48] <blueking> ok
[18:49] <blueking> EriC^^ there are one thing I want to change with current system.. I want bigger /boot ... it fills up pretty fast with ongoing upgrades
[18:50] <EriC^^> blueking: yeah
[18:50] <blueking> are it doable without reinstall all shit ?
[18:50] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, Heh, it says "no hdd detected". I can't find any other disk settings in bios
[18:50] <EriC^^> blueking: you could use part of the efi partition
[18:51] <EriC^^> blueking: take 300mb from the efi partition and use them
[18:51] <blueking> how ?
[18:51] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: ahci stuff or something?
[18:51] <EriC^^> blueking: you want to do it now?
[18:52] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, I don't know what that means. I bought like 90 minutes ago.
[18:52] <blueking> not yet... must finish ubiquiti edgerouter setup first,  ubuntu pc are current router
[18:52] <EriC^^> ok
[18:53] <blueking> am going to convert router into fileserver when ubiquiti takes place as router
[18:53] <RWOverdi_> I've installed ubuntu many times before, it was always as simple as boot from usb and click next a bunch of times. Not sure where I messed up...
[18:53] <blueking> add two more nic's on pc
[18:53] <blueking> total 4 interfaces..
[18:54] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: look over the settings in the bios for anything related to the hdd
[18:54] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, there's only a samsung listing under boot devices (guessing that's the hdd), and the "no hdd found" message.
[18:54] <blueking> lag lacp or whatever , one reserved for link out on net (torrenting) and 1 reserved for media streaming and 1 for main lan and one for kids zone.. lag  trunk vlans on that or sumthin
[18:55] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: are you sure bios is selected? (csm legacy support)?
[18:55] <RWOverdi_> Yes, and priority is set to legacy as well.
[18:55] <blueking> point are to avout inter traffic betweeen different vlans /subnet through router
[18:55] <blueking> avout avoid
[18:56] <ioria> RWOverdi_, and try to disable Secure boot and Fast boot  too ( if there is)
[18:56] <Amm0n> RWOverdi_, nvme devices are relatively new and as EriC^^ stated before the implemention of it is not good by many vendors. Especialy the implemention of legacy bios.
[18:57] <Amm0n> s/it/UEFI
[18:57] <RWOverdi_> So.... I'm screwed? :p
[18:57] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: is the hdd the one that came with the lenovo?
[18:57] <RWOverdi_> yes
[18:57] <RWOverdi_> Nothing changed, just unboxed it.
[18:58] <dupondje> Somebody else with issues with the newest firefox update?
[18:59] <blueking> EriC^^  if join fileserver to different vlans  and these vlans see eachother  as no firewall block interrouting..  how would filetransfer go from users on diff  vlans to/from fileserver when fileserver are member of all vlans that has access to fileserver ?
[18:59] <EriC^^> blueking: no idea
[19:00] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: ok let's try to reinstall grub just in case
[19:00] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: try sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt
[19:01] <RWOverdi_> It says "secure boot disabled" on the information tab. and this is my boot screen: https://s28.postimg.org/cl0h48lod/IMG_4274.jpg
[19:01] <RWOverdi_> oh okay, let me switch back to the live disk. Thank you for helping me by the way, really appreciate it.
[19:01] <EriC^^> anything in "configuration" ?
[19:03] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, https://s23.postimg.org/6h9j0d0qz/IMG_4275.jpg
[19:03] <RWOverdi_> The back flash looks interesting. It says "allow BIOS to be back leveled to a previous version"
[19:06] <EriC^^> ok, boot the live usb again
[19:07] <RWOverdi_> Done
[19:07] <RWOverdi_> Now do "sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt"?
[19:07] <EriC^^> yup
[19:07] <RWOverdi_> ack
[19:08] <EriC^^> did you set the bootflag btw?
[19:08] <RWOverdi_> Earlier? yes
[19:08] <RWOverdi_> a, 1
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> Also command is done
[19:09] <EriC^^> ok cool, wrote to disk?
[19:09] <EriC^^> (bootflag)
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> Everything is there
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> Ehm....
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> No
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> I think?
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> I did a, 1, q
[19:09] <EriC^^> try sudo parted -l and look at the far right next to ext4
[19:09] <RWOverdi_> Nothing there
[19:10] <RWOverdi_> So, I'll go again
[19:10] <RWOverdi_> Write is "w" I guess?
[19:10] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:10] <EriC^^> what field are you in?
[19:10] <EriC^^> (just curious)
[19:10] <RWOverdi_> Programming.
[19:10] <RWOverdi_> I know basic linux stuff.... Usually find no problems at all. I used these commands before but I never... Remembered them.
[19:11] <RWOverdi_> If it worked, it worked, and I'd google it again next time.
[19:11] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:12] <RWOverdi_> the partition table has been altered.
[19:12] <EriC^^> ok great
[19:12] <RWOverdi_> Re-reading failed
[19:12] <RWOverdi_> But it's still there
[19:12] <EriC^^> no big deal
[19:12] <RWOverdi_> And now it has the flag boot in parted
[19:12] <blueking> EriC^^  did u notice my raid arracy on router ?
[19:12] <EriC^^> awesome
[19:12] <RWOverdi_> Reboot?
[19:12] <blueking> array
[19:12] <EriC^^> blueking: no, i've no idea about that stuff, sorry
[19:12] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: not yet
[19:13] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[19:13] <blueking> EriC^^ 2x 4TB wd red hdd -> raid0  8TB in one partition
[19:14] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, Done.
[19:14] <RNeville> maybe a hardware question, but I have integrated video gpu - HD 7660D AMD - could I run two of my monitors on internal video gpu and run one monitor off of a more powerful video card?
[19:15] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: sudo chroot /mnt
[19:15] <RWOverdi_> Also done
[19:15] <RNeville> what to help Lightworks under 14.04 Ubuntu perform better, is why I ask
[19:15] <RWOverdi_> Heeey, home has my user
[19:16] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: grub-install --recheck /dev/nvme0n1
[19:16] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, No error reported
[19:16] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: update-grub
[19:17] <RWOverdi_> EriC^^, done
[19:17] <RWOverdi_> I'm writing this all down btw. Want to man mount for instance to figure our what -B means... I want to learn this stuff.
[19:18] <RWOverdi_> oh, I really should've "man mount" that. It sounds... wrong now.
[19:18] <EriC^^> lol
[19:18] <Amm0n> xD
[19:18] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: there's one last thing we can check, it's a little anal but what the hell
[19:19] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: first exit the chroot
[19:19] <RWOverdi_> Pun intended?
[19:19] <RWOverdi_> done
[19:19] <RWOverdi_> (ctrl+d right?)
[19:19] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: then type sudo dd if=/dev/nvme0n1 bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C
[19:19] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: look at the last 4, is it 55aa?
[19:20] <RWOverdi_> _technually_ no. There's a new line with 0200
[19:20] <RWOverdi_> But the last line in style with the rest, yes, is 55aa
[19:20] <EriC^^> ok cool
[19:20] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[19:21] <RWOverdi_> Holy crap
[19:21] <RWOverdi_> It's asking me to remove the usb
[19:21] <RWOverdi_> That's new at least
[19:21] <RWOverdi_> Now lenovo...
[19:21] <RWOverdi_> No blinking this time
[19:21] <RWOverdi_> KUBUNTU
[19:22] <EriC^^> yay
[19:22] <RWOverdi_> I'll keep my joy to myself as to not get kicked for spam but, thank you.
[19:22] <EriC^^> RWOverdi_: no problem
[19:23] <RWOverdi_> Do you think it was the simple writing of the boot flag this time?
[19:23] <EriC^^> yup
[19:23] <EriC^^> that would be my guess
[19:23] <RWOverdi_> I want to blog it for other people with the same problem
[19:24] <Amm0n> Some bioses can't boot without it
[19:24] <Len> hmm anyone here is doing kvm passthrough with ubuntu?
[19:25] <compdoc> Len, never found a use for it, but the hardware supporting it is more important than the OS
[19:25] <cotin> Anyone that can recommend a webserver with gui that can handle virtual hosts?
[19:25] <Len> compdoc: yeah I know about it, been runing it on arch
[19:25] <Len> but just been wondering if there are any problems on ubuntu
[19:25] <Len> guess no
[19:26] <rypervenche> cotin: I would recommend learning how to do it from the command line, as it will have the most features and flexibility.
[19:26] <compdoc> ive tried it. my newer intel systems handled it muchg better than amd
[19:26] <RNeville> Under Ubuntu 16.04 could I run two monitors off internal gpu, and run a third monitor from pci 3.0 modern video card, and if so would it be beneficial to do so?
[19:27] <ppf> compdoc: what kind of gui are you looking for
[19:27] <compdoc> ppf, not looking
[19:27] <ppf> sorry, cotin ^
[19:28] <cotin> yeah sure i understand that. And i eventualy will. But i have a job i need to do so for now i really need this.
[19:28] <cotin> Vitrualmin is a bitch
[19:28] <cotin> i dont like xampp-
[19:29] <cotin> And im looking for something like mamp actually.
[19:29] <Amm0n> cotin, nginx, tomcat
[19:29] <cotin> but for ubuntu.
[19:29] <ppf> nginx is pretty easily configurable
[19:29] <cotin> Alright
[19:29] <cotin> will check it out right away
[19:32] <youngtimydick> hello
[19:33] <youngtimydick> who is here
[19:33] <cotin> with these webservers it would be easier to edit the vitrualhosts file that comes with ubuntu and just use xampp.
[19:33] <k1l_> cotin: dont use xampp. its a security nightmare.
[19:33] <cotin> yeah
[19:34] <cotin> vitrualmin has a fantastic Web-GUI but is filled with lots of bugs.
[19:35] <cotin> So what to do then...
[19:35] <cotin> Switch to windows or mac? I will blow my brains out before i leave linux.
[19:37] <k1l_> cotin: what it the issue with adding the configs?
[19:38] <groundze2o> hello..just updated my kernel from 4.8 to 4.10
[19:38] <cotin> Well i will need to change virtuals host often for different websites testing and developing.
[19:38] <groundze2o> what does this change in my system?
[19:40] <Amm0n> groundze2o, your kernel version :p
[19:40] <Amm0n> question is, do you have any problems now
[19:40] <Amm0n> and why did you need to?
[19:41] <k1l_> groundze2o: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FDebuggingMainlineBuildsUbuntuDrivers.Do_mainline_kernel_builds_include_Ubuntu_specific_drivers.3F
[19:41] <k1l_> groundze2o: you miss the ubuntu patches now, some driver stuff and others
[19:41] <groundze2o> i hope it will now make my wortld of tank on playonlinux work
[19:42] <groundze2o> i have an nvidia 960m but can't play games.... -.- gj linux
[19:42] <k1l_> groundze2o: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FGeneralUbuntuDelta.What_differentiates_the_Ubuntu_Kernel_from_the_upstream_Linux_Kernel.3F
[19:42] <k1l_> groundze2o: i doubt it was a kernel issue. did you install the ubuntu nvidia driver?
[19:45] <jackNemrod> Can anyone help me in writing a part of my preseed file? I would like partman take /dev/sda as /boot and /dev/sdb for the LVM (whole disk). I don't understand how to do it
[19:45] <Amm0n> cotin, i'd recommand you to try what fits your needs and dive into it to make it secure if you plan to use it online
[19:46] <groundze2o> k1l_: i guess so..it was automatically installed in the driver section..right?
[19:46] <k1l_> groundze2o: you have to chose it in the driver section, yes.
[19:47] <groundze2o> doing it right now..
[19:47] <groundze2o> i hope it won't break my machine..i wasn't able to run any linux distro until 16.10 ubuntu..
[19:49] <humbertl1> hi
[19:50] <humbertl1> how you
[19:51] <qwxlea> trying to find who is responsible for my dns addresses on ubuntu 16.10: not resolv.conf, but where?
[19:52] <ppf> dnsmasq
[19:52] <ppf> via network manager
[19:52] <qwxlea> ppf: dnsmasq config is also empty, network manager, where can i find its config?
[19:53] <qwxlea> ppf: /etc/networkmanager :-) oeps
[19:53] <ppf> /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[19:53] <ash_workz> is it silly to split your public and member areas of a website across 2 servers? perhaps for security reasons?
[19:55] <bombsl> does any one have any idea how can i decode this ? : swi&CNJCtKVbCyyAmNG8PqFZsYpyXegEQRGt
[19:55] <gusgg_> can I apt-get autoremove only a specific package? It's not the same as purging, because if there's still a dependency on a package, I don't want to be able to purge it
[19:56] <k1l_> bombsl: is this ubuntu related?
[19:56] <Dave_Elec> Hey guys does anyone know how to setup oculus development kit on ubuntu?
[19:56] <qwxlea> ppf: also empty /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d so weird
[19:57] <ppf> pgrep -a -f dnsmasq
[19:58] <ppf> qwxlea: what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:59] <qwxlea> ppf: change my dns server to something else
[19:59] <ppf> how are you configuring your interfaces?
[19:59] <ppf> networkmanager?
[20:00] <qwxlea> trying opendns, googledns and opennicproject.org
[20:00] <ppf> is it networkmanager or /etc/interfaces*?
[20:01] <groundze2o> alright..updated kernel..changed driver..hopefully WOT on playonlinux will work now
[20:01] <qwxlea> ppf: networkmanager, which means it gets it from my router i suppose
[20:01] <ppf> sure. right click the icon, Edit Connections
[20:01] <ppf> on the ipv4 tab you can specify dns servers
[20:02] <qwxlea> ppf: that was embarrassingly simple
[20:02] <ppf> )
[20:02] <ppf> :)
[20:02] <cotin> Amm0n my server will only be used for testing and developing different websites before being pushed to another webserver.
[20:02] <mrhubrisje> hi
[20:03] <mrhubrisje> anyone know why i'm having this problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876698/
[20:03] <qwxlea> ppf: still, i would prefer to set my dnsmasq settings, i'll google that first ;-)
[20:05] <ppf> why?
[20:05] <ppf> the relevant dnsmasq instance is created/managed by networkmanager
[20:05] <ppf> which adds itself into your /etc/resolv.conf
[20:06] <k1l_> mrhubrisje: looks like its this issue: http://superuser.com/a/949768
[20:06] <qwxlea> ppf: which means i have to change every wireless connection i User__
[20:06] <qwxlea> sorry, use
[20:07] <k1l_> mrhubrisje: or use sudo to manage the mysql
[20:07] <mrhubrisje> k1l_, I'll have a look at your link first
[20:07] <mrhubrisje> thanks
[20:07] <ppf> qwxlea: you can put stuff into resolv.conf
[20:07] <wedgie> sure, but it'll likely get clobbered in short order
[20:08] <ppf> qwxlea: i.e., add nameserver entries to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[20:08] <qwxlea> ppf: thanks, reading...
[20:10] <arulmozhi> can  I live boot ubuntu 16.04 with usb to hdmi adapter, because I don't have display port on motherboard (asrock fatal1ty x99) and I acannot afford a graphics card at the moment?
[20:10] <qwxlea> ppf: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND all in capitals, somebody is serious about that...
[20:10] <ppf> qwxlea: yes, ignore that :D
[20:10] <ppf> the files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d are used to make /etc/resolv.conf
[20:11] <ppf> the warning is meant for that
[20:11] <arulmozhi> hi can  I live boot ubuntu 16.04 with usb to hdmi adapter, because I don't have display port on motherboard (asrock fatal1ty x99) and I acannot afford a graphics card at the moment?
[20:12] <qwxlea> ppf: ah, ok ... trying
[20:12] <mrhubrisje> k1l_, for starters it's impossible to get into the whole thing
[20:12] <mrhubrisje> it's asking for a password that i should have set when installing. Only, i didn't
[20:13] <thething_911> hey, had a look around but I can't find anything about my bluetooth, thing just keeps spinning, looking for devices. In order to progress to the next setup step, I need it to stop, but clicking on a list item doesn't seem to do anything. Anyone had this? Know where I should start poking around? Never really touched the BT before
[20:14] <Herbalist> when i want to Shutdown the computer i have to: 1) click on the "Shutdown..." menu, then a Dialog appears and i have to 2) click on the Shutdown button, then the Login window appears and 3) i have to again select the "Shutdown..." menu, then another Dialog pops up and 4) i have to again click on the Shutdown button .. only then does the computer finally shut down
[20:15] <ppf> Herbalist: type systemctl poweroff
[20:15] <Herbalist> ppf thank you
[20:15] <Herbalist> in the terminal ?
[20:15] <ppf> yes
[20:15] <ppf> or in that command launcher thing, does that still exist in unity?
[20:15] <ppf> alt+f2 or so?
[20:16] <tomreyn> looks like he already succeeded
[20:16] <ppf> :D
[20:16] <PipeItToDevNull> Just "poweroff" should suffice
[20:16] <ppf> i'm not seeing quit messages ...
[20:16] <tomreyn> his "Remote host closed the connection"
[20:16] <ppf> I just hope his question wasn't 'how do i configure shutdown'
[20:17] <tomreyn> :)
[20:17] <ppf> PipeItToDevNull: yeah, that's an alias for systemctl poweroff
[20:18] <k1l_> mrhubrisje: sudo mysql -u root
[20:19] <Herbalist> lol ppf .. i typed your command then the computer shut down at once :))
[20:19] <mrhubrisje> k1l_, ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
[20:19] <k1l_> mrhubrisje: exactly that command?
[20:19] <k1l_> mrhubrisje: and you had mysql running before on that machine. so did you forget that passwort?
[20:19] <mrhubrisje> fyi, yes
[20:19] <mrhubrisje> nope
[20:20] <qwxlea> ppf: hmm, cannot restart dnsmasq: "Job for dnsmasq.service failed...etc" which leads to: "dnsmasq: directory /etc/resolv.conf for resolv-file is missing, cannot poll"
[20:20] <mrhubrisje> new install
[20:20] <ppf> Herbalist: i hope that was what you intended :)
[20:20] <mrhubrisje> never set a password
[20:20] <Herbalist> hehehe
[20:20] <mrhubrisje> i just ran this command: sudo mysql_secure_installation
[20:20] <k1l_> mrhubrisje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[20:20] <mrhubrisje> and set a password
[20:21] <mrhubrisje> same thing happens with both sudo mysql -u root and sudo mysql -u root -p
[20:21] <ppf> qwxlea: /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink. what did you do exactly?
[20:23] <qwxlea> ppf: i added "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[20:24] <qwxlea> the tried: sudo service dnsmasq restart
[20:24] <darek> test
[20:24] <qwxlea> now dnsmasq is failed, (dns still works, though)
[20:25] <ppf> what ubuntu are you on?
[20:26] <distortedvoice> hoary hedgehog
[20:26] <gusgg_> I'm checking out a list of packages that apt-get autoremove shows, and running apt-cache rdepends --installed on them, and finding reverse dependencies that are installed, like compiz. compiz is marked auto, but I'm pretty sure something that depends on compiz is not marked auto....
[20:26] <qwxlea> ppf: 16.10
[20:26] <gusgg_> for example, unity
[20:26] <Ayukawa> Trying to set apache to automatically start on boot in ubuntu server 16.04LTS, but all I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23876823/ . Any suggestions?
[20:27] <ppf> i don't have a dnsmasq.service on my system. where's this from?
[20:27] <ppf> probably don't have dnsmasq installed
[20:27] <ppf> just try reboot?
[20:29] <qwxlea> ppf: that sounds like a terrible solution ... let's try
[20:30] <fedecupe> Good evening, I'm looking for help on this matter (displaylink drive with kernel 4.9) http://askubuntu.com/questions/874558/cant-install-displaylink-driver-with-current-kernel
[20:33] <qwxlea> ppf: dns works, that is nice. dnsmasq refuses to start, but it obviously not being used
[20:38] <k1l_> fedecupe: what if you add the "KVER=4.9" to that file manually?
[20:39] <fedecupe> kil_ could try, but that is inside a .run
[20:42] <fedecupe> k1l_ could try, but that is inside a .run, if i open it and look for "KVER" I can't find it :(
[20:43] <ppf> qwxlea: dnsmasq itself is something different. it's a standalone dns and dhcp server
[20:43] <ppf> but networkmanager is providing an instance by itself, so no need to run it manually
[20:44] <k1l_> fedecupe: i think you will have to deal with the display link guys with that
[20:45] <cotin> anyone that can recommend ISPConfig ?
[20:47] <Amm0n> fedecupe, did you check the mentioned logfile /var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/make.log ?
[20:48] <fedecupe> Amm0n thing went like this: got the problem installed, posted on displaylink forum (attaching log), displaylink guys linked me to that thing on github --> i don't know how to use that thing :(
[20:52] <__Yiota> could someone help me? https://bpaste.net/show/8bc390bdd826
[20:52] <__Yiota> I can't figure out why it won't work on this specific machine
[20:54] <wedgie> __Yiota: I don't have that package either... is a third party repo required?
[20:55] <__Yiota> sudo add-apt-repository \
[20:55] <__Yiota>        "deb https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/ \
[20:55] <__Yiota>        ubuntu-$(lsb_release -cs) \
[20:55] <__Yiota>        main"
[20:55] <__Yiota> i guess so
[20:55] <baizon> Yiota: https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntu/
[20:55] <wedgie> did you run ''apt-get update'' after?
[20:56] <jose__> hello
[20:57] <k1l_> __Yiota: yes, that is a 3rd party repo. and you need to run "sudo apt update" after adding that repo
[20:57] <__Yiota> what is the uri for that repo?
[20:58] <__Yiota> https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/ubuntu-trusty-main ?
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> __Yiota  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:58] <k1l_> __Yiota: please run a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here
[20:59] <__Yiota> http://termbin.com/pg1f
[21:00] <k1l_> __Yiota: you did not add that repo yet
[21:00] <__Yiota> ok, added
[21:01] <k1l_> then run sudo apt update. then try to install
[21:02] <Gippe> help
[21:02] <Southern_Gentlem> Gippe, we cant
[21:03] <Gippe> hello
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Gippe  start with a question
[21:03] <Gippe> ciao
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Gippe  it works, we see you
[21:04] <ceprius> But no escile
[21:04] <qwxlea> ppf: thanks for your time, i'll look into it later
[21:05] <BluesKaj> wait for it here comes the !list
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> if he says !list, i'll eat my shorts
[21:06] <BluesKaj> he's in italy, they think ubuntu is a file sharing chat
[21:07] <jwlbryan> nick littl3s
[21:08] <Americanu_ubuntu> herllo there
[21:08] <Gippe> what are the commands?
[21:09] <littl3s> .exit
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> Gippe  type   /help
[21:09] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l_hey there
[21:09] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe, hello there
[21:09] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, welcome back
[21:10] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  thanks, i solved it finaly
[21:10] <Americanu_ubuntu> i had to reinstall a driver
[21:10] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, awesome, so it seems it was a driver
[21:11] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  aparently yes
[21:12] <Gippe> MENU
[21:12] <Americanu_ubuntu> it was a known issue on opensuse , k1l showed me
[21:13] <Gippe> CLEAR
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Gippe  stop
[21:13] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, well I'm glad you managed to solve it. Otherwise everything working as planned?
[21:13] <Americanu_ubuntu> didnt get the time to testhonestly, i was on windows, playing overwatch
[21:14] <Americanu_ubuntu> but the system looks stable
[21:15] <Gippe> .exit
[21:16] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, great!
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Gippe  type   /part
[21:16] <Toni0> bonsoir
[21:17] <heathenwolfe> Toni0, bonsoir
[21:17] <Toni0> Je suis newbie
[21:17] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  how are you tho
[21:18] <heathenwolfe> Toni0, Vous avez une problème?
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> !fr | Toni0
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> heathenwolfe  un problème
[21:19] <Toni0> haha sorry it's an english room
[21:19] <ceprius> !id
[21:19] <Toni0> did'nt see it
[21:19]  * heathenwolfe switching back to english too
[21:19] <Toni0> Well, I don't think I have any problems
[21:20] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, everything fine here. I'm only running a few Ubuntu servers so they are happy doing their job
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> Toni0  this is ubuntu support, for nice social chat, type   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:21] <Toni0> I L37 U GUJ5, 8Y3 !
[21:21] <Onepamopa> oh dear ..
[21:23] <tsimonq2> Ubuntu Zesty Zapus Alpha 2 has been released!
[21:24] <Lavinho> good night
[21:24] <Herbalist> how long had he been in prison ?
[21:24] <Lavinho> speedtouch 330 ubuntu 14.04 ?
[21:24] <Herbalist> gnight
[21:24] <Lavinho> possible ?
[21:24] <ceprius> night night
[21:25] <Onepamopa> Herbalist, couple of years
[21:25] <Onepamopa> they caught him smoking weed
[21:25] <Herbalist> lavinho..i have 16.04 already
[21:25] <Herbalist> lol one
[21:25] <Onepamopa> ;)
[21:26] <Onepamopa> speaking of, I'll roll
[21:26] <Herbalist> lavinho .. but it's not a competition or so
[21:26] <Herbalist> good idea one .. same here
[21:26] <Onepamopa> just make sure you don't ROW !
[21:27] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  why do you run them for ? just basic use ?
[21:28] <Onepamopa> Herbalist, root-on-weed ))
[21:29] <Herbalist> roots takin over
[21:30] <Herbalist> Study finds dogs are happiest listening to Reggae Music   ---   https://www.sott.net/article/340846-Study-finds-dogs-are-happiest-listening-to-reggae-and-soft-rock
[21:30] <Herbalist> natty knew
[21:30] <k1l_> Herbalist: Onepamopa please continue the chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic . this is for ubuntu support only
[21:30] <Herbalist> sorry
[21:30] <Onepamopa> k1l_, don't worry, I'll be /off shortly ;)
[21:31] <Herbalist> #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[21:31] <k1l_> !register | Herbalist
[21:31] <Herbalist> i'm not registered
[21:31] <Herbalist> yea but my nick is taken
[21:31] <Herbalist> by someone else
[21:32] <wedgie> then it's not really your nick, is it?
[21:32] <Herbalist> yeah it's my common nick on many sites
[21:32] <Herbalist> its' my identity
[21:32] <wedgie> anyway, that's not something we can help you with
[21:32] <k1l_> Herbalist: then join #freenode to sort that issue with the staff.
[21:33] <Herbalist> right .. thanks kil
[21:40] <Americanu_ubuntu> is there a reason why my software center is not starting at all ?
[21:41] <Herbalist> yes
[21:41] <Herbalist> but i dunno which reason
[21:42] <Herbalist> i suggest updating and upgrading
[21:42] <rifter> I am having trouble getting to the ubuntuforums .. when I log in with SSO that part works, and I am properly identified. The page says it will pass the information to ubuntuforums.org  ... but once it does, I get error 403 FORBIDDEN You don't have permission to access /login.php on this server."
[21:43] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: which software center are you trying to start?
[21:43] <rifter> I think I had the same problem before and never solved it. I was trying to remember why I hadn't been in there with my questions, and now I realize that was why
[21:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> well its name is "ubuntu software "
[21:44] <k1l_> rifter: there is #ubuntuforums with issues with their website
[21:44] <Americanu_ubuntu> i installed another package called uubntu software center
[21:44] <k1l_> *for issues
[21:44] <Americanu_ubuntu> ubuntu* and aparently that one starts properly i guess nacc
[21:44] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: don't use 'ubuntu software centre', iirc, it's deprecated
[21:45] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: you want to use the gnome softare center (or something similar)
[21:45] <rifter> thank you k1l_ I will go there
[21:45] <Americanu_ubuntu> hmm alright ill install that nacc
[21:47] <piano-novice> I am learning how to use IRC in order to root my cell phone with lineageos but am unable to establish a password which I need to join the lineageos.
[21:47] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc , i think i installed it, what's it's name in launcher?
[21:47] <piano-novice> I am a long-time LINUX user but don't know IRC
[21:48] <wedgie> piano-novice: sounds like a question for #freenode
[21:48] <k1l_> !register | piano-novice
[21:48] <Onepamopa> -NickServ- piano-novice has NOT COMPLETED registration verification
[21:48] <Onepamopa> you need to register your nickname first
[21:48] <Onepamopa> for more info /msg nickserv help
[21:50] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: 'software'?
[21:50] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc "software & updates" ?
[21:50] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: no, that's the settings for apt, iirc
[21:51] <piano-novice> -Onepamopa- thanks.  I have been trying to use /msg nickserv to register but am informed I can't.  I'll try /msg nickserv help.
[21:53] <dSaXXonP> test
[21:54] <groundze2o> wot playonlinux doenst work
[21:54] <groundze2o> great
[21:54] <rifter> dSaXXonP, we see you .. do you have a question?
[21:55] <dSaXXonP> no
[21:55] <Herbalist> i still use the Ubuntu Software Center regularly .. it works fine and it was recently updated
[21:55] <dSaXXonP> thx
[21:55] <rifter> really, groundze2o ?  Do you have the latest WINE? What is not working?
[21:56] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc i think i installed it incorectly then
[21:57] <FMan> Chrome has become unresponsive!!
[21:57] <OerHeks> softwarecenter gives metapackages, synaptic is more detailed
[21:57] <rifter> I am on a new install of lubuntu 16.10 .. I want to install 32 bit libraries so I can install something that requires them. That used to be simple, but when I tried on xubuntu 14.04 I ran into roadblocks. Now that I have a more recent version, I am hoping to revisit this problem and get it going
[21:58] <Herbalist> yes but Synaptic requires password to open .. so i only use it in cases of emergency
[21:58] <rifter> OerHeks, I'm a big fan of synaptic as well. I usually use command line apt, but I use synaptic to update the kernel and to search for stuff when it takes me too many tries to find it in apt-cache search
[21:58] <OerHeks> password in advance, indeed.
[21:58] <piano-novice> -Onepamopa- when I try  /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com with my choice of pword and my email address, I get from NickServ: piano-novice is already registered.
[21:59] <rifter> Software Center doesn't need authentication? That sounds like a security problem to me
[21:59] <Herbalist> piano i also have that same problem with my nick Herbalist !
[21:59] <OerHeks> rifter, it does, after selecting a package
[21:59] <EriC^^> piano-novice: check your email for the verification code
[21:59] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc i can't find the software app.. isn't it sudo apt-get install gnome-software ?
[21:59] <rifter> piano-novice, you'll get better help for that in #freenode .. type /j #freenode  to go there
[21:59] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc i mean the software install link
[22:00] <rifter> oh right yeah check for that
[22:00] <Herbalist> it's a orange suitcase with a white letter A inside
[22:02] <Americanu_ubuntu> the gnome one ?
[22:02] <groundze2o> rifter world of tanks..downloads everything but won't start
[22:02] <groundze2o> i downloaded 2.x wine trough playonlinux
[22:03] <rifter> groundze2o, you may want to check WINE 's AppDB .. that site tends to have things that you need to do. I have historically used just wine as opposed to PlayonLinux .. winetricks is a package you are gonna want to have too
[22:03] <piano-novice> -rifter- Thanks for the advice.  I did not find any msg with a verification code in my email but may have missed it.  I'll try joining freenode.
[22:03] <Herbalist> Americanu_ubuntu.. try this command:   sudo apt-get install software-center*
[22:04] <Herbalist> with asterisk
[22:04] <rifter> although usually I would use a PPA for WINE and download the latest winetricks
[22:04] <EriC^^> piano-novice: check your junk mail
[22:04] <Americanu_ubuntu> hearbalist , what does the asterisk do?and it says that it's already installed
[22:04] <nicomachus> nautilus won't open...
[22:05] <groundze2o> so uninstall playonlinux? rifter
[22:05] <Herbalist> asterisk means any string
[22:05] <nicomachus> and there's no verbose option to get error messages from terminal output. urgh.
[22:05] <rifter> groundze2o, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11544  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31627
[22:05] <Herbalist> so all packages beginning with that name are installed
[22:06] <Americanu_ubuntu> aaah
[22:06] <piano-novice> -EriC- I don't strip out junk mail so I should have seen any marked as junk
[22:06] <rifter> nah you don't have to uninstall it. PlayonLinux as I recall just tries to make it easier for a novice to use WINE
[22:06] <Bray90820> What would be a good way to automatically change permissions of a file I am thinking a bash script with chmod
[22:06] <Americanu_ubuntu> strange :/ then probably it's already installed
[22:06] <Herbalist> Americanu_ubuntu.. check this site:   https://launchpad.net/software-center
[22:07] <Herbalist> latest download version is 13.10 .. on the right
[22:07] <rifter> Bray90820, that would probably work .. how automatically you want it to be will determine how you write it
[22:07] <tatertots> Bryanstein: how about making sure the file is created with the desired permissions from conception.......
[22:08] <tatertots> Bryanstein: then no modification would be required
[22:08] <Bray90820> rifter: Basically I just wanted "chmod 755 /media/data/Recorded_TV" to happen every dat at like 10PM so would I just write a bash script and put it in crom?
[22:08] <Americanu_ubuntu> aah thanks
[22:09] <Americanu_ubuntu> is there a way to delete/uninstall the curent package so that i can reinstall the website one?
[22:09] <nacc> Herbalist: i have no idea what you're talking about, but that is absolutely incorrect
[22:10] <nacc> Herbalist: 13.10 was release in *2013* and is not current, by any means
[22:10] <Americanu_ubuntu> really? ohh
[22:10] <nacc> Herbalist: xenial ships 16.01+16.04.20160420, e.g
[22:10] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc , so how can i install the latest one then?
[22:10] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: latest one of what?
[22:11] <Americanu_ubuntu> gnome software
[22:11] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: software-center or gnome-software?
[22:11] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: `apt install gnome-software` ?
[22:11] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, the software you can pull depends on the repositories you have configured
[22:11] <hoshi> hello all
[22:11] <Herbalist> nacc sorry it was stated on that page from launchpad
[22:11] <hoshi> after glxinfo i get that error - Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[22:12] <nacc> Herbalist: you have to understand *what* that page is saying.
[22:12] <Herbalist> nacc on the right it says "Downloads
[22:12] <Herbalist> Latest version is 13.10 "
[22:12] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, if it's installed, you can check the version with $ dpkg -l | grep gnome-software
[22:12] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc you said that i should use a gnome software center earlier
[22:12] <jackNemrod> anyone use a preseed file to install ubuntu ?
[22:12] <hoshi> i heard amdgpu-pro driver can work with iGPU primary (i need it for clover bootloader) ;)
[22:12] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: yes, 'gnome-software'
[22:13] <groundze2o> ok trying to do it with wine onl
[22:13] <groundze2o> tt
[22:13] <nacc> jackNemrod: many people do (or have)
[22:13] <Americanu_ubuntu> it says its already installed
[22:13] <nacc> Herbalist: yes, that is referring to marked release tarballs, which are not used any more
[22:13] <Herbalist> aight
[22:13] <Herbalist> ty nacc
[22:14] <nacc> Americanu_ubuntu: ok, start it with `gnome-software` then
[22:14] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc it doesnt boot up anythin
[22:15] <jackNemrod> nacc: i m tryng to put /boot on /dev/sda and use whole disk /dev/sdb for / in LVM ... but i need an expert :p
[22:15] <nacc> jackNemrod: what have you tried?
[22:17] <Americanu_ubuntu> brb ill reboot ubuntu, probably that will fix it
[22:18] <jackNemrod> nacc: http://pastebin.com/auN01Nfa
[22:19] <Herbalist> using 16.04 .. i didnt know there was a new software-center called ubuntu-software
[22:19] <Americanu_ubuntu> im back, nacc it still doesnt boot up gnome-software
[22:20] <Herbalist> wb Americanu_ubuntu
[22:20] <nacc> jackNemrod: and what happens?
[22:20] <Americanu_ubuntu> thx herbalist
[22:20] <k1l_> there were some guys reporting a broken software-center
[22:20] <Americanu_ubuntu> where k1l_ ?
[22:22] <jackNemrod> nacc: "You asked 577 Mb to be used for guided partitionning, but the selected partitionning requires at least 5.1Gb"
[22:23] <nacc> k1l_: and note that software-center has been removed from zesty
[22:24] <k1l_> nacc: uh. wasnt that just switched to in favor of the old ubuntu-software-center ?
[22:24] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, just for reference $ gnome-software does start up fine here
[22:25] <nacc> k1l_: src:software-center is "Ubuntu Softare Center"; src:gnome-software is the supported, preferred, "Gnome Software"
[22:25] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  on my system it doesnt start at all :( am i the only one unlucky
[22:26] <k1l_> nacc: the gnome thing is named ubuntu-software the old one is the one with center in name
[22:26] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: "ls ~/.local/share/gnome-software/" show what?
[22:27] <Americanu_ubuntu> nacc , 2 files install-queue  ubuntu-reviews.db
[22:27] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, I'm using livecd, just one file ubuntu-reviews.db
[22:27] <nacc> k1l_: oh i see it now, you're right, 'software center' has been fully removed and now there are the two both provided by src:gnome-software
[22:28] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  hmmm so why isnt it starting ?
[22:28] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: mv ~/.local/share/gnome-software/install-queue ~/.local/share/gnome-software/install-queue.old
[22:29] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: after that try again to open it
[22:29] <Americanu_ubuntu> it says no such file or directory ? is that a folder then ?
[22:29] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l_,  "mv: cannot stat '/home/americanu/.local/share/gnome-software/install-queue': No such file or directory
[22:29] <Americanu_ubuntu> "
[22:30] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, I'm guessing it's a file
[22:30] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe hmmm should i rename it then
[22:31] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, mv is for renaming...
[22:31] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: hmm, i dont know what broken there
[22:31] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: "mv .local/share/gnome-software/install-queue .local/share/gnome-software/install-queue.old" try that
[22:32] <Americanu_ubuntu> now it made it old
[22:32] <Americanu_ubuntu> like .old
[22:32] <k1l_> ok, so try again to open it.
[22:32] <Americanu_ubuntu> yes now it works
[22:33] <Americanu_ubuntu> thanks
[22:33] <k1l_> (i dont know why the shell doesnt like the 2 paths with ~)
[22:33] <cfhowlett> nice one k1l_
[22:33] <Americanu_ubuntu> welll i guess ubuntu is odd
[22:33] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, not Ubuntu's fault
[22:34] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  ahh
[22:34] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, sounds like shell config
[22:35] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  well at least it got sorted again, thanks
[22:35] <jackNemrod> nacc: ?
[22:35] <Americanu_ubuntu> i had an linux distro years ago and it moved so slow because of my shitty pc specs, i just quit to try it
[22:36] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, did you try mv'ing stuff already in Ubuntu?
[22:36] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  mv-ing ? like renaming?
[22:37] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, yes, or does the error only happen on the install-queue file?
[22:37] <barnito> going to try ubuntu under windows
[22:37] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  well i didnt rename anything, like i said, i didnt get to use ubuntu since last night when internet got sorted
[22:37] <k1l_> well, looks like the gnome software center doesnt like the packagekit usage? i dont know. looks like this bug was triggered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1606238
[22:38] <k1l_> heathenwolfe: its a bug for this gnome software which cant handle when its losing internet connection.
[22:38] <Americanu_ubuntu> k1l_,  that's what happened on my side too, launcher reacted on it when i clicked but nothing happened, and in terminal it gave no feedback on gnome-software
[22:39] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: should be sorted now
[22:39] <Americanu_ubuntu> yeah cheers again guys :D
[22:40] <nacc> jackNemrod: i wonder if you're not clearing the disks during the install, so it's only using whatever free space remains on them as currently formatted?
[22:43] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, congrats, maybe this one was due to yesterday's connectivity issues?
[22:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  probably to be honest lol, i dont know
[22:43] <jackNemrod> nacc: the VM is fresh
[22:43] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  you and k1l_  know the better reason , i was just doing the stuff you two told me
[22:44] <k1l_> heathenwolfe: yes, the gnome software seems to have issues with not working or closing internetconnections.
[22:45] <nacc> jackNemrod: i'm not sure sorry
[22:46] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, Honestly, props to k1l_. I'm just noob
[22:47] <Americanu_ubuntu> heathenwolfe,  nah ,you tried to help as well, so i appreciate both your help
[22:47] <Americanu_ubuntu> does amd still not have support for ubuntu btw?
[22:48] <OerHeks> still not have?
[22:48] <k1l_> Americanu_ubuntu: it had always support for ubuntu
[22:48] <heathenwolfe> Americanu_ubuntu, hop over to private chat if you want
[22:48] <k1l_> its just that the people didnt like the support
[22:48] <Americanu_ubuntu> ohhh
[22:48] <Americanu_ubuntu> alright
[22:49] <k1l_> in the end, the more open source driver should be better than the full binary solution fglrx was before.
[22:51] <Americanu_ubuntu> fair enough lol
[22:52] <avieks> before i could mount network shares at boot, not any more. odd?
[22:56] <avieks> dns nor ip works
[23:03] <cc-r> nick cooc
[23:03] <hoshi> how to get acceleration/glxgears working on second monitor when using iGPU primary, ubuntu 16.10 and rx480?
[23:10] <matti> ;]
[23:15] <Americanu_ubuntu> so k1l_  what are you up to
[23:19] <ragecraze> hey guys, i tried ubuntu alot of times but i had problems with wifi not connecting most of the time on it, i want to try linux again, what distrubution should i get that has all the drivers and should work with my card_
[23:22] <k1l_> ragecraze: since you ask here: try ubuntu
[23:22] <k1l_> ragecraze: and if you know what card you got you can look what to do to get it working
[23:26] <ragecraze> k1l_ how do i find my card type in windows 10?
[23:26] <k1l_> ragecraze: uh, look in the hardware manager or get a tool that displays that information
[23:27] <ragecraze> ill try that brb
[23:33] <hwpplayer1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/875327/fixing-incorrect-gpu-detection/876242#876242 what should be the answer of this question ?
[23:33] <hwpplayer1> i wrote something but our moderator has deleted it
[23:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[23:49] <dodge29>  
[23:53] <qih> On Ubuntu16.06/AMD64, I've just installed (I think) python-gmplot, the Python 3 ver of gmplot *but* I can't execute it. In fact, there is no "man" or "info" nor an executable. wtf?
[23:55] <nacc> qih: the python3 version would be called python3-gmplot
[23:55] <nacc> qih: but also, i'm not sure why you think there would be an executable for a python library?
[23:56] <qih> nacc: Not an executable per se, but it does not work, if I type "python-gmplot" or "gmplot" etc
[23:57] <nacc> qih: right, why would you think it would? have you used python before?
[23:57] <nacc> qih: https://github.com/vgm64/gmplot you may want to read how to use it in a python program (which is what a python{,3}- package tends to be for)
[23:58] <qih> Python before yes, but aren't most programs capable of being executed from cli?
[23:58] <qih> nacc: That is written for Python.7
[23:58] <nacc> qih: python libraries/modules aren't programs. Seems like a very basic python question.
[23:58] <qih> Python2.7*
[23:58] <nacc> qih: it doesn't matter.
[23:59] <qih> nacc: OK, I'll correct that incorrect version first
[23:59] <nacc> qih: both python-gmplot and python3-gmplot are just python modules, they are not 'programs'. You import them into your python program and use them. Much like libraries in C.