[00:00] <clivejo> brb
 Just burnt a Debian Live DVD, going to test it
 :)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/E3u503XE/file_1830.jpg
 :D
 works fine :)
 even got the pretty progress bar in Plasma 5.9 :)
[00:13] <acheronuk> lol
[00:13] <valorie> lovely!
[00:13] <valorie> thanks so much for fixing k3b, y'all
[00:14] <acheronuk> to sort maybe....
[00:14] <acheronuk> (1) versioning if we do a pre-release snapshot
[00:14] <clivejo> Riddell: thanks for packaging it, its looking good!
[00:15] <clivejo> acheronuk: help > about k3b is saying Version 17.04.00
[00:15] <acheronuk> (2) disable libcddb and see if musicbrainz works for cdinfo in CD ripping. at the moment building with libcddb would get it stuck in proposed
[00:15] <acheronuk> (3) review old patches
[00:16] <acheronuk> 17.04.0~somethinggit then?
[00:17] <clivejo> dunno, not keen on that myself
[00:17] <acheronuk> that is usual debian for a pre-lease snapshot AFAIK
[00:18] <acheronuk> *pre-release
[00:18] <clivejo> Don't KDE Apps usually have a RC?
[00:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: what did you have in mind?
[00:18] <clivejo> ie 16.11.90 for Apps 16.12
[00:18] <clivejo> 17.01.90 ?
[00:19] <clivejo> 17.01.90+git20170128
[00:19] <acheronuk> maybe. better check with KDE
[00:19] <clivejo> not sure, I dont like assuming version numbers
[00:20] <clivejo> been bit too many times
[00:20] <acheronuk> no, which is why I would rather check and be conservative with the choice
[00:29] <clivejo> when id our freeze?
[00:29] <acheronuk> clivejo: feature freeze is 16th Feb
[00:29] <clivejo> oupps
[00:29] <clivejo> eak
[00:30] <acheronuk> not long really
[00:30] <clivejo> nope
[00:30] <clivejo> and so much to do!
[00:30] <acheronuk> PIM might end up a FFE
[00:31] <clivejo> looking likely
[00:33] <acheronuk> just need to get major versions of most things in before that date. can still do fix releases after that
[00:35] <clivejo> but its getting stuff in thats the problem
[00:35] <clivejo> kexi, peruse, kio-gdrive,  ..............
[00:36] <clivejo> kio-gdrive needs libkgapi which needs part of PIM!
[00:37] <clivejo> kexi needs a stack of new packages
[00:37] <clivejo> anyways, my head hurts and I need sleep
[00:37] <clivejo> night all
[00:38] <acheronuk> ok. night
[00:38] <valorie> sweet dreams, clive
[00:38] <clivejo> nightmares you mean?
[00:38] <valorie> congrats all on a successful alpha2
[00:38] <valorie> NO NIGHTMARES
[00:38] <valorie> bask in success
[00:39] <clivejo> keep dreaming about getting stuck in a calligra web of deps
[00:41] <valorie> now that does sound like a nightmare
[00:41] <valorie> I think you need to share Max' dreams instead
[00:42] <acheronuk> chasing sheep?
[00:43] <valorie> that sounds exhausting
 He's been very bad today
 Would someone put out an email and maybe update the topic about informal meeting at 15:00 UTC Saturday
[01:30] <tsimonq2> I can't make it
[01:37] <tsimonq2> I'm awake and finishing up QA
[04:06] <DarinMiller> Question reguarding soname mis-matches, should they be listed in a lintian override file?  
[04:07] <DarinMiller> i.e. akonadiconsole: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libakonadiconsolelib5.  Do I need to add an akonadiconsole.lintian-overrides file and paste in said message?
 DarinMiller: depends. when packing libraries in a libsomethingwithanumber package, then that warning can tell you that the lib has been bumped and you maybe need to do the same with the package name
 but in some cases the package name will be generic and unchanging as it contains more stuff than just the lib
 in which case, you may want to override that warning
[04:46] <DarinMiller> acheronuk: OK, I suspect that akonadiconsole may such a case as it is part of the kdepim package set (as far as I understand).
[04:52] <DarinMiller> OK, big epiphany: get-kci-tarball is very handy. Is this in the documentation and I have never seen it?  sbuilds work much better with a tarball...
[05:01] <DarinMiller> sbuilding kajong to see if I can duplicate the  KCI error: /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/dhmk.mk:97: recipe for target 'pre_configure_dh_auto_configure' failed
[05:03]  * DarinMiller succeeded in repeating the kajong complie error.  Has anyone seen the cat or the mad hatter...
[05:08] <DarinMiller> googling  "'pre_configure_dh_auto_configure' failed" errors seems to imply these might be upstream? errors (package mainter?)
[05:08] <DarinMiller> checking bug reports...
[07:02] <valorie> !info kdeconnect zesty
[07:03] <valorie> wth
[08:39] <acheronuk> !info kdeconnect zesty-proposed
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Good Day all
[12:16] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi clivejo 
 Good morning
 Hurt my knee yesterday and I'm not calling into work or anything, call me a masochist. :P
[12:21] <clivejo> you seem to have a lot of knee trouble
 I do. Specialist told me a week ago that it was fine, but I slipped on the ice yesterday outside school
[12:22]  * clivejo giggles watching Max "helping" my mother do her gardening
 Hurts, and I don't want to miss any more work
 clivejo: Oh no, what is he "helping" with? :P
[12:23] <clivejo> not sure, digging of some description 
 XD
 Anyways, how's this packaging thing going?
[12:24] <clivejo> "Max, no" No, Max" "Stop it Max" "keep outta the way"
 Y'all release Kubuntu yet?
 XD
[12:25] <clivejo> not great
 What did you do, Mr. Sole Maintainer of Kubuntu? :P
[12:27] <clivejo> what did I do?
 Well you said it was "not great"? What's that supposed to mean?
[12:31] <clivejo> you asked how the packaging thing was going, and I said not great
 So I'm asking you, what did you do to make it not great?
 We need a certain someone to come in here and Make Packaging Great Again 😂
[12:35] <clivejo> Indeed
[12:36] <tsimonq2> KCI Unstable PPA enabled here o/
[12:46] <acheronuk> clivejo: digikam could do with a no-change rebuild so it depends against the libkf5kipi32.0.0 instead of the libkf5kipi31.0.0 it had there to build against when it was uploaded
 It still on shiny?
[12:52] <acheronuk> not a clue
[12:56] <acheronuk> clivejo: you'd need to build locally to sign the tag, and then scp the files minus the source to shiny
[13:10] <soee> o/
 Not at computer right now, I'll do it later
[13:15] <acheronuk> clivejo: no probs
[14:06] <clivejo> acheronuk: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/4:5.4.0-0ubuntu3
[14:07] <acheronuk> clivejo: :) 
[14:07] <acheronuk> forgot you'd not need the source upload now
[14:07] <clivejo> anything else needs looked at?
[14:07] <acheronuk> maybe later
[14:08] <clivejo> did the release team agree to delete kdeconnect-plasma debugging package?
[14:09] <acheronuk> not yet that I've seen
[14:10] <acheronuk> dunno where or how or when they 'discuss' that
 i suspect we will have to manually remove that -dbg package.  will consider and discuss
[14:13] <clivejo> I still think we should make use of the kdeconnect-plasma package
[14:13] <clivejo> and put the plasma related stuff in there
[14:14] <clivejo> no point in installing plasma stuff while using it in Unity
[14:17] <clivejo> !info indicator-kdeconnect
[14:30] <clivejo> anyone running Unity?
[14:55] <clivejo> hi DarinMiller
 googling  "'pre_configure_dh_auto_configure' failed" errors seems to imply these might be upstream? errors (package mainter?)
[14:57] <acheronuk> missing depends I think?
[14:59] <DarinMiller> acheronuk: Good morning.  Thanks for the hint.  I will check the depends...
[15:00] <clivejo> DarinMiller: you coming to meeting?
[15:00] <DarinMiller> oh yes.... time got away from ...
[15:24] <clivejo> !info python-twisted
[15:32] <clivejo> !info python-twisted unstable
[15:38] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[15:38] <clivejo> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/requestsync.1.html
[15:55] <soee> !info keyringer 
[15:58] <soee> !info gnome-keyring
[16:21] <DarinMiller> !info python-twisted unstable
[16:22] <DarinMiller> !info python-twisted 
[16:22] <DarinMiller> !info python-twisted yakkety
[16:22] <DarinMiller> !info python-twisted xenial
[17:29] <clivejo> !info xkb-data
[17:30] <clivejo> !info xkb-data-i18n
[18:06] <DarinMiller> Confused:  Why is calligra not listed here: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.12.1_zesty.html
[18:07] <wxl> i think i'm starting to feel normal again thank god
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[18:08] <wxl> re: topic beta 1 testing should begin 21 Feb
[18:08] <DarinMiller> +1
[18:09] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: because QA page is for showing the status of KDE application releases. i.e. the officially supported set of 200+ apps that KDE release together
[18:09] <acheronuk> calligra is not part of that release
[18:09] <acheronuk> calligra does it's own thing
[18:12] <DarinMiller> ah, ok
[18:15]  * DarinMiller wathes http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_calligra/ slowly build....
[18:17] <DarinMiller> watches^
[18:18]  * DarinMiller types with a lisp..
[18:19] <acheronuk> lol
[18:20] <wxl> you mean like λ?
[18:24]  * DarinMiller does not understand the connection between lambda
[18:25] <DarinMiller> λ and lisp...
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[18:31] <wxl> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/eintr/lambda.html
[18:35] <wxl> that was the first one that came up
[18:35] <wxl> this is more general and not specific to emacs lisp (same idea tho)
[18:35] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_(programming_language)#Lambda_expressions_and_function_definition
[18:36] <DarinMiller> .... oh got it.....
[18:36] <DarinMiller> clivejo: calligra installs and runs fine now, despite the 19 warnings on KCI...
[19:18] <clivejo> yippeee
[19:20] <clivejo> humm
[19:21] <clivejo> why is armhf failing
[19:31] <clivejo> grrrr
[19:31] <clivejo> so apparently having an install file called calligra-libs.install.armhf overrides for armhf
[19:32] <clivejo> new thing learned today!
[19:32] <acheronuk> yes it does. kalzium has a similar one
[19:33] <clivejo> you could have told me :P
[19:33] <acheronuk> I hadn't noticed it
[19:34] <soee> do you have font antialiasing ON ?
[19:34] <clivejo> I was asking cjwatson in launchpad why armhf is being crazy!
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[20:44] <clivejo> no blog/news post about the alpha 2 on kubuntu.org?
[20:49] <clivejo> also http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-4-and-kde-frameworks-5-8-0-now-available-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04-and-16-10/ shouldnt that be frameworks 5.28?
[20:50] <valorie> clivejo: the article is written, but I asked for a read-through, which evidently nobody did
[20:51] <clivejo> :(
[20:51] <valorie> I'll fix the older article
[20:51] <valorie> and maybe publish teh draft as-is
[20:51] <valorie> :(
[20:51] <clivejo> how do I read the draft?
[20:52] <valorie> login
[20:52] <valorie> at the bottom
[20:53] <valorie> mistakes like the above are why it's always good to have someone else read!
[20:53] <clivejo> looks ok, have you a link to the iso?
[20:56] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/17.04/alpha-2/
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[20:59] <clivejo> I'll added a hyperlink to the page to download the iso and published it
[21:03] <valorie> thank you clivejo
[21:06] <blaze> there is a nasty bug in konsole 16.12.1 :(
[21:06] <blaze> breaks my app
[21:07] <clivejo> whats the bug?
[21:07] <blaze> tomorrow i'll write a bug report
[21:07] <blaze> and maybe will look how to fix it
[21:08] <clivejo> can you briefly let me know what the problem is?
[21:10] <valorie> !info konsole zesty
[21:10] <valorie> info konsole zesty-proposed
[21:10] <valorie> huh
[21:11] <clivejo> !info konsole zesty-proposed
[21:13] <blaze> clivejo: https://goo.gl/JlEnzc this code doesn't work, but was always working before
[21:14] <valorie> does it work in the actual terminal?
[21:14] <clivejo> oh, that would be an upstream issue
[21:14] <blaze> konsole interprets everything like it's own options, not even runs a program
[21:17] <valorie> blaze: I think a BR in bugs.kde.org will be looked at and taken seriously
[21:17] <valorie> since konsole is pretty basic for all kde devels
[21:17] <valorie> you might report your BR in #kde-devel and ask for testing there
 Afternoon
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[21:46] <clivejo> acheronuk: what ya doing?
[21:47] <acheronuk> idly tinkering
[21:49] <clivejo> what are the patches?
[21:51] <acheronuk> that one was a patch so that k3b can find the 'normalize' binary if it's installed, as debian/ubuntu rename it it to normalize-audio
[21:51] <acheronuk> there are some patches to desktop file which may or may not still be useful
[21:52] <acheronuk> and some stuff to quiet warning or do you want to install codecs pop up etc.
[21:54] <acheronuk> want to go through them carefully to see if they are still useful, even if they are fixable
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[22:38] <clivejo> acheronuk: have you come across lintian complaining about intra-source-package-circular-dependency ? 
[22:40] <acheronuk> vaguely heard of it, yes. more than that, no
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[22:40] <clivejo> know how to fix?
[22:46] <acheronuk> nope
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[22:56] <DarinMiller> so for grins, I added the proposed ppa to my sbuild command to see if kajongg would build.
[22:57] <DarinMiller> sbuild -d zesty-amd64 --extra-repository="deb [trusted=yes] http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ zesty-proposed multiverse restricted universe main"
[22:57] <DarinMiller> in the log I see: Get:63 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-proposed/main amd64 python-twisted-bin amd64 16.6.0-2 [15.4 kB]
[22:59] <DarinMiller> but the build still fails complaining: The following REQUIRED packages have not been found: Twisted (required version >= 16.6.0)
[23:01] <DarinMiller> !info twisted zesty
 clivejo: rtfm
[23:02] <clivejo> DarinMiller: twisted is the source package name
[23:02] <clivejo> which builds python-twisted
 https://lintian.debian.org/tags/intra-source-package-circular-dependency.html
[23:03] <clivejo> !info python-twisted zesty-proposed
[23:04] <clivejo> tsimonq2: thanks, thats what Google told me too
[23:04] <valorie> @tsimonq2 -- please don't use "rtfm" even in jest here
[23:05] <acheronuk> I think we know where to look up lintian warning by now!
 But it stands for Read The Fine Manual
 It's a really good manual
 Don't know why you consider it a swear...
[23:07] <DarinMiller> !info python-twisted-core zesty-proposed
[23:07] <valorie> @tsimonq2 -- it is the attitude that is the problem
[23:07] <valorie> not the "fine" part
 That's what I'm always told to do when I have obvious questions :O
 I need sleep. o/
[23:09] <valorie> sweet dreams
[23:16] <DarinMiller> clivejo: the ppa seems to be pulling the new 16.6 python-twisted files but the sbuild session does not seem to be using them.  I am trying to figure out why (attempting to learn sbuild).
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[23:18] <clivejo> DarinMiller: try creating a PPA in your LP account
[23:18] <clivejo> and add proposed
[23:18] <clivejo> just for testing
[23:18] <DarinMiller> oh, ok
[23:24] <DarinMiller> so upload just the new twisted packages to my ppa and use my ppa link with sbuild instead of the zesty-proposed ppa?
[23:25] <clivejo> no no, upload kajongg to the PPA
[23:26] <clivejo> so it builds against the newer package in proposed
[23:27] <clivejo> do you know how to enable proposed in your PPA?
[23:28] <DarinMiller> No, I have never uploaded a package to a ppa, but a did create a test ppa: ppa:darinsmiller/ppa-test 
[23:28] <DarinMiller> looks like I need to use dput .... but this is new territory for me...
[23:29] <DarinMiller> reading this page now: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[23:29] <clivejo> go to https://launchpad.net/~darinsmiller/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-test
[23:29] <clivejo> right hand side
[23:29] <clivejo> "Edit PPA dependencies"
[23:29] <DarinMiller> i see it...
[23:30] <clivejo> check the circle next to "Proposed (default dependencies and proposed updates)."
[23:30] <clivejo> Save 
[23:30] <DarinMiller> yep
[23:30] <clivejo> and then upload to it
[23:36] <DarinMiller> uploading instuctions say: dput ppa:your-lp-id/ppa <source.changes>
[23:37] <DarinMiller> I have the kp git directory and the tar files.  Not sure how to assemble them into the <"source.changes>" format...
[23:37] <clivejo> you need to sign it with your key
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[23:41] <DarinMiller> wait, how can I upload something that fails to build?  Instructions specify, once you've built your source package, use dput.
[23:44] <clivejo> have you built the source?
[23:47] <DarinMiller> Not sure what built from source means, I did the following: git clone kp:kajongg followed by get-kci-tarball, then mv ../build-area/package*xz ../
[23:48] <clivejo> Im not sure how that tool is intended to work
[23:49] <clivejo> can we do it manual way?
[23:49] <DarinMiller> so I have a scratch/kajongg directory with the debian "stuff" and the tar scratch directory.  That allow sbuild to attempt to build and duplicate the same failure as KCI.
[23:49] <DarinMiller> sure :)
[23:50] <clivejo> so make a new working directory
[23:50] <DarinMiller> done
[23:51] <clivejo> ok so we manually find the package in the unstable PPA
[23:51] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=kajongg&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[23:51] <clivejo> which distro do you want to work on?
[23:51] <DarinMiller> following...
[23:51] <DarinMiller> zesty
[23:52] <clivejo> ok, go to the zesty line and click the wee arrow on the left
[23:52] <clivejo> it will fold down the details
[23:52] <DarinMiller> yes
[23:52] <clivejo> do you see the .dsc file?
[23:52] <DarinMiller> yes
[23:52] <clivejo> ok so copy the URL
[23:52] <DarinMiller> 2 tars and a dsc, 
[23:53] <DarinMiller> ok
[23:53] <clivejo> then back in your working directory
[23:53] <DarinMiller> git clone, wget or ?
[23:53] <clivejo> dget https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+files/kajongg_16.12.1+p17.04+git20170125.1356-0.dsc 
[23:53] <clivejo> dget
[23:53] <clivejo> dget is like the reverse of dput :)
[23:54] <DarinMiller> :) makes sense
[23:54] <DarinMiller> Ignore this? gpg: Can't check signature: No public key Validation FAILED!!
[23:54] <clivejo> yup
[23:54] <clivejo> it was signed by KCI
[23:55] <clivejo> and you dont have that key
[23:55] <DarinMiller> ok, dput *.* to my ppa?
[23:56] <DarinMiller> or do need to build something first?
[23:56] <clivejo> just a sec
[23:56] <acheronuk> dput the .changes file
[23:57] <acheronuk> oh, you have just downloded it so you won't have that
[23:57] <clivejo> untar the two tarballs
[23:58] <clivejo> tar -xvf kajongg_16.12.1+p17.04+git20170125.1356.orig.tar.xz
[23:58] <acheronuk> clivejo: do you know what the purpose build dep on spectacle adds in functionality?
[23:58] <clivejo> and
[23:58] <clivejo> tar -xvf kajongg_16.12.1+p17.04+git20170125.1356-0.debian.tar.xz
[23:58] <clivejo> you will have two folder
[23:59] <clivejo> source and debian
[23:59] <clivejo> mv debian/ source/
[23:59] <clivejo> and cd into source
[23:59] <clivejo> now run "dch"