[00:00] <qih> Ahhhh, I was confuded because it was installed using the sys pacman ... I previously installed "gmplot" using pip3, and it failed.
[00:00] <Jharm> hello everyone, i have set up a local server and i'm having issues finding the domain from http. But for some reason i can see the domain from https. i have my server benind an AP client. This allows me to connect it to my router wirelessly, i'm thinking this might be my issue. Any suggestesing?
[00:03] <jayjo> I can't boot into Ubuntu for some reason. I have gone into a disk utility and can see my hard drive with a Linux Swap of 17 GB and another partition that is the remaning 162 GB. Is that enough to know that the hard drive hasn't failed? Is my only option to reinstall ubuntu?
[00:04] <whatnow> jayjo just because you can see the partition doesn't mean it isnt corurpted or not
[00:04] <whatnow> jayjo, run fsck on them
[00:04] <qih> https://github.com/vgm64/gmplot, thanks.
[00:04] <Guest12015> I am getting a error
[00:04] <k1l_> jayjo: what did you do before that happened? and where does it stop working?
[00:05] <qih> nacc: Sorted (I think), thanks.
[00:05] <Guest12015> I am getting a ping error when I ping google
[00:05] <Guest12015>  ping google.com PING google.com(yk-in-x8a.1e100.net (2607:f8b0:4002:c07::8a)) 56 data bytes   ^C	 --- google.com ping statistics --- 345 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 352261ms
[00:05] <jayjo> I had restarted on an update. Now if I go into BIOS and choose the Ubuntu partition on the main drive (there is another OS on a secondary drive), it only goes straight to a blinking cursor and I can't get to a terminal
[00:06] <Guest12015> can you help mr on this error
[00:06] <wedgie> Jharm: I'm not sure what an "ap client" is, but your issue is probably either a portforwarding issue, firewall, or your web server isn't set up to use https. Verifying the last one is probably the easiest place to start
[00:07] <jayjo> I can see this only through a Disk Utility from an old mac installation on the other hard drive
[00:07] <qih> Guest12015: What Ubuntu are you using?
[00:08] <Guest12015>  ping google.com PING google.com(yk-in-x8a.1e100.net (2607:f8b0:4002:c07::8a)) 56 data bytes   ^C	 --- google.com ping statistics --- 345 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 352261ms
[00:08] <php> Hello
[00:08] <Guest12015> How can I fix this error I am on the 16.10
[00:08] <jayjo> Through this Disk Utility it says that the partition map appears to be OK
[00:08] <php> For some reason my Chrome and a few other things using the web are crashing. I think it's something to do with NVIDIA graphics drivers.
[00:09] <qih> Guest12015: How are you connecting to this #channel?
[00:09] <php> I've updated my drivers, my motherboard firmware and my OS
[00:09] <qih> php: I think the Windows 10 channel, is over there ==>
[00:09] <whatnow> jayjo that means you cant boot?
[00:09] <qih> 8-)
[00:09] <php> I am on Ubuntu 16.04
[00:10] <php> qih
[00:10] <qih> Noted
[00:10] <Guest12015> 16.10 verson is having a lot of problems with network connection.
[00:10] <jayjo> It is just a blinking cursor if I go into the Ubuntu partition from the BIOS. Otherwise it is just GNU grub
[00:11] <Guest12015> when I ping my gateway it fine
[00:11] <whatnow> jayjo you want grub
[00:11] <jayjo> what do I do from within grub?
[00:11] <whatnow> jayjo are you dual booting or completely installing
[00:12] <jayjo> I have completely installed it on my primary drive.
[00:12] <whatnow> onay
[00:12] <whatnow> okay
[00:13] <whatnow> so you installed it, you don't need to do anything to the drive
[00:13] <whatnow> ubuntu does it for you
[00:13] <whatnow> jayjo
[00:14] <Guest12015> do anyone have angy help for me on my internet problem ?
[00:14] <whatnow> Guest12015 what is your problem?
[00:14] <Guest12015> how to fix 100 packet loss
[00:14] <jayjo> I have installed ubuntu on my desktop machine about a year ago and have been using it without an issue. On my last update, I now can only boot into GNU grub, and not into ubuntu. because I have a secondary drive with an old mac osx installation on it, I was able to see the drive that had ubuntu on it and it appeared as though it was not corrupted
[00:15] <Guest12015> ~$ ping google.com PING google.com(yk-in-x8a.1e100.net (2607:f8b0:4002:c07::8a)) 56 data bytes   ^C	 --- google.com ping statistics --- 345 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 352261ms
[00:15] <php> this is so frustrating
[00:15] <jayjo> is there any way to figure out what happened or to repair the drive? I have the OS with software installed that I have been using in a very stable manner for about a year
[00:15] <php> i cant google anything
[00:15] <whatnow> jayjo, you load grub, a bootloader, to boot ubuntu, the kernel
[00:16] <whatnow> jayjo, if you can;t boot into ubuntu, then best to back up your data files, then reinstall
[00:16] <whatnow> Guest12015 are you pining google for a specific reason
[00:16] <whatnow> php whatsup
[00:16] <Guest12015> yes
[00:16] <whatnow> Guest12015 do: ping 8.8.8.8
[00:17] <jayjo> can i do that from grub?
[00:17] <Guest12015> making sure my connections is correct
[00:17] <whatnow> jayjo, no you will nmeed to boot from a live usb, then cp your files from ubuntu
[00:18] <whatnow> Guest12015 it looksl ike your packets arent getting through
[00:18] <Guest12015> that ping work . but why the google.com did not work?
[00:19] <wedgie> Guest12015: if you can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com then your DNS setting are probably the problem
[00:19] <whatnow> it works for me, Guest12015. Best bet your dns server isn't configured correctly
[00:19] <Guest12015> oh
[00:19] <php> whatnow, my nvidia graphics driver is crashing chrome, discord, skype and every ~10m, my desktop environment (starts back up tho)
[00:20] <Guest12015> how can I set that up my dns ?
[00:20] <php> whatnow, I am using the latest official nvidia driver for my card
[00:21] <whatnow> Guest12015 just need to work around it
[00:21] <whatnow> php okay the graphics card issue with what distro
[00:22] <php> whatnow, thanks for replying. It's ZOTAC/NVIDIA (same?) GeForce 950
[00:22] <Guest12015> also this my software updater is failing as well.
[00:22] <php> Ubuntu 16.04
[00:22] <wedgie> Guest12015: actually, based on your ping output, it looks like it is trying to use IPv6 to reach google. Do you have a working ipv6 setup?
[00:23] <whatnow> php do you have the correct drivers installed?
[00:23] <php> fuck, my unity stuff is gone :|
[00:23] <Guest12015> yes I see it on my default settings
[00:23] <php> i just removed my nvidia driver to try reinstalling
[00:23] <php> ;-;
[00:24] <whatnow> php if the ubuntu repo doesn't work, try this http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[00:24] <php> That's where I was getting the drivers :/
[00:24] <php> I am trying ubuntu repo right now
[00:25] <php> How can I restart my desktop environment?
[00:25] <whatnow> php sudo service lightdm restart
[00:26] <whatnow> php or ssudo service lightdm restart
[00:27] <Jharm> wedgie thanks, and sorry for not being clear. The AP Client its a wireless access point that i use to connect my server wirelessly to my my modem. i know i have my port set up corrrectly in the apache2, ports, and example.com .conf files.
[00:28] <wedgie> Jharm: so from the server locally can you do ''curl http://localhost/'' ?
[00:29] <Jharm> and just for clarity, i can reach my server over ssl(https). but for some reason i cant reach it with http.
[00:29] <Jharm> local it works remotely no. but let me try that
[00:31] <wedgie> ok, remotely being "on the other side of the AP"?
[00:32] <Jharm> and the other routher which the ap is connectect to wirelessly. and that second router is connect to modem
[00:32] <wedgie> does the AP do nat?
[00:33] <wedgie> sounds like port forwarding is the most likey cause... make sure you verify that you have a portforward for port 80 everywhere you have one for 443
[00:33] <Jharm> ok i tried the command you seggested and i got and output of the html file
[00:33] <wedgie> Jharm: ok, so the server is probably working correctly
[00:34] <lvl12firemage> I had no idea you could use terminal for IRC
[00:34] <lvl12firemage> Rad.
[00:34] <Jharm> ok ill double check again but im ive opened port 80 of my routers. and also look into nat. honestly im not sure. thanks
[00:35] <Jharm> *all of my routers
[00:36] <wedgie> Jharm: well, walk it back one hop at a time. Can a computer on your local network, but outside of the AP access http?
[00:36] <Jharm> yes any computer that is connected to either router behind modem locally can reach it with no issue
[00:37] <php> I'm back whatnow
[00:37] <Jharm> but if im trying to reach it remotely from main ip address i can only reach the https not http.
[00:37] <php> "Sorry, Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error."
[00:37] <php> It's an nvidia thing I think
[00:37] <wedgie> ok, then it must be the outermost router
[00:38] <Jharm> i was thing of just getting the ssl certificate, but its driving me crazy that i cant get it to work.. lol
[00:38] <php> "Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in OsAbort()"
[00:38] <wedgie> Jharm: sometimes ISPs block port 80. But the ones that do usually block 443 too...
[00:38] <php> "Error: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/0000:01:00.0'
[00:39] <Jharm> ok cool. ive called them and they said they dont block it.
[00:40] <Jharm> now the router behind wireless accesspoint uses a 10.0.0.1 ip. and other connect to modem uses 192. dont know if that has anything to do
[00:40] <wedgie> Jharm: then double check that last router then. Works if you're inside of it but not outside of it
[00:41] <wedgie> Jharm: let me make sure i understand your topology: Internet -> modem -> router -> AP -> server    is that right?
[00:42] <Jharm> internet -> modem -> router -> AP -> router -> server, i know its wierd
[00:42] <wedgie> ok, and something sitting between router1 and ap can access the server on port 80?
[00:44] <barnito> I am actually impressed with win10 Linux
[00:44] <Jharm> internet works on all machines behind AP. i can connect remotely, ftp, and many other things. but when i try http nothing
[00:45] <Jharm> so that proves that its port fowarding.
[00:47] <PianoSkulls> hey
[00:48] <PianoSkulls> i know that flash is a security risk, so should I uninstall it? and if I do, will youtube still work or will I need a replacement ?
[00:48] <Jharm> now im thinking since ssl works, i should just give up  and get the certificate. im sure the routers are the issue. but my setup is also out of the ordinary i guess
[00:48] <wedgie> Jharm: it's a lot of layers of nat, that's for sure
[00:49] <wedgie> Jharm: if you want to do it cheap check out letsencrypt (i'm assuming this is a home setup)
[00:49] <Jharm> lol yeah. i just wanted to avaoid running long cables. but thanks any way for all you help
[00:49] <Jharm> yes
[00:49] <Jharm> it is
[00:50] <Jharm> funny you mentioned that i was looking at their url today .
[00:50] <rifter> youtube is supposed to have switched over t o html5 completely by now
[00:50] <tomreyn> PianoSkulls: youtube will still work, since it also supports (and nowadays defaults to) html5 video. but other sites which strictly depend on flash might break
[00:51] <Jharm> yes PianoSkulls rifter is right.
[00:52] <rifter> yeah I am looking at it right now and I don't have flash
[00:52] <tomreyn> PianoSkulls: you could configure your web browser to require your interaction before plugins are run. this way you can have better control.
[00:53] <rifter> yes, I use noscript for most control, but there are config options. There are also addons that specifically address given things like flash
[00:54] <lvl12firemage> I'm going to have to read the how to.
[00:54] <PianoSkulls> tomreyn: Im thinking i'll remove flash and install Gnash and Lightspark
[00:55] <PianoSkulls> will those be enough for all other websites?
[00:55] <ragecraze> guys i need help please!! my wifi card has issues on ubuntu! sometimes it used to work when i restart my pc, now i installed a driver that i found online, and after installing it and rebooting there is no wifi at all! in the connection settings there is no wifi at all!!
[00:55] <ragecraze> please help
[00:55] <tomreyn> PianoSkulls: probably not. but it's been a while that i tried it.
[00:55] <PianoSkulls> I'll try it then
[00:55] <PianoSkulls> then let you know
[00:55] <tomreyn> thanks!
[00:56] <duisenberg> ragecraze, you want to revert to previous conf or solve the current?
[00:56] <ragecraze> duisenberg what is that and how do i do it? im a newbe
[00:57] <duisenberg> ragecraze, just stating that in your case you may want to: a) try to roll back to older driver or b) diaguinouse the new one
[00:57] <tomreyn> *diagnose
[00:57] <duisenberg> dialgioneise
[00:57] <ragecraze> duisenberg the older driver wasnt good! i would start pc and wifi is working but when i restart it is not working
[00:57] <ragecraze> something is not stable
[00:57] <ragecraze> my wifi card is ralink3290
[00:58] <Jharm> regecraze: probably find the old driver or a lower version and re install.
[00:58] <duisenberg> ragecraze, so people on channel have better idea of what you want
[00:58] <duisenberg> I think Jharm's idea is good
[00:59] <Jharm> thanks
[00:59] <ragecraze> omg i cant believe this! no one can tell me how to get ralink3290 to work on this linux?
[00:59] <ragecraze> please i need this for school!
[00:59] <duisenberg> omg...
[01:00] <ragecraze> how do i install .tar.gz files? i have one that i want to install, how do i do it?
[01:00] <Jester> hey, can anyone help me out with an issue ive got on 16.04?
[01:01] <Jester> Basically, if i go in to sound settings it reads my sound card (Xonar DG), but no matter what i do no sound comes out
[01:01] <Jester> any help?
[01:03] <Jharm> Jester: maybe its a permission issue?
[01:05] <duisenberg> whats the interface? PCI, USB?
[01:05] <Jharm> gusy i just ran netstat -ntlp
[01:06] <Jharm> to see if port 80 is opened. and its opened manytimes may that be my issues with http?
[01:08] <Jharm> it shows tcp6  0  0 ::::80  :::*  LISTEN  533/apache2  like 7 times
[01:08] <tomreyn> Jharm: you probably have a multi threaded daemon bound to that port.
[01:08] <Jharm> interesting....
[01:09] <Jharm> any idea on how to approch this problem or links?
[01:09] <tomreyn> there is no problem
[01:10] <Jharm> so i should probably change port 80 to something else agian
[01:10] <tomreyn> why?
[01:11] <PianoSkulls> tomreyn: i uninstalled flash and didnt install anything to replace it, but many websites still work fine
[01:11] <tomreyn> http requests may arrive in quick succession, with new ones arriving before the previous have been handled (and a response was sent). so you have multiple listeners open in parallel
[01:11] <PianoSkulls> youtube, vimeo, vevo, facebook twitte
[01:11] <Jharm> oh sorry orriginal comment was berried lol
[01:12] <PianoSkulls> i have yet to find a website that doesnt work without flash. suggestions?
[01:12] <tomreyn> PianoSkulls: good. and i did not doubt it, but i bet you will run into sites which still depend on flash - sadly.
[01:12] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[01:13] <tomreyn> PianoSkulls: often this will be sites which use flashs' video streaming (and 'content protection') capabilities
[01:14] <PianoSkulls> accidently closed wrong terminal. i'm back
[01:15] <PianoSkulls> tgm4883: that page doesnt have a list of websites
[01:16] <PianoSkulls> tgm4883: why did you send me that page?
[01:17] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: you wanted a page that doesn't work without flash
[01:18] <Jharm> guys thanks for all the help will try all the tips i got and get back to you later on.
[01:18] <PianoSkulls> tgm4883: well it worked
[01:18] <PianoSkulls> i made sue to purge flash and it still worked
[01:18] <PianoSkulls> *sure
[01:19] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: you still have flash
[01:21] <PianoSkulls> I uninstalled it and did purge.what else is there?
[01:21] <PianoSkulls> I also ran apt-get clean
[01:22] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: what browser are you using?
[01:22] <PianoSkulls> firefox
[01:22] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: what package did you purge?
[01:23] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: you went to that page and it told you that you have a version of flash installed?
[01:23] <PianoSkulls> flashplugin-installer
[01:25] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: you went to that page and it told you that you have a version of flash installed?
[01:25] <PianoSkulls> not anymore
[01:25] <PianoSkulls> not anymore
[01:26] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: then that page isn't working...
[01:26] <PianoSkulls> the page is working but the "Version information" box doesnt show up. it's a grey box
[01:27] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: so then the page isn't working...
[01:27] <PianoSkulls> tgm4883: you have an extreme definition of "not working"
[01:27] <PianoSkulls> lower your standards a bit
[01:28] <tgm4883> PianoSkulls: not really. The page has 1 job, to tell you what version of flash you are running.
[01:28] <duisenberg> bye
[01:28] <PianoSkulls> tgm4883: good point
[01:28] <PianoSkulls> thanks for the help
[01:29] <PianoSkulls> I'm offto watch Continuum
[01:36] <aesrhsdf> what does :(){ :|: & }; do?
[01:36] <ragecraze> guys i have a problem! everytime i log into ubuntu i have to enable my wifi my commands, how do i make wifi start automatically?
[01:36] <reisio> aesrhsdf: get you kicked?
[01:36] <aesrhsdf> reisio: :
[01:36] <aesrhsdf> :|*
[01:36] <reisio> :p
[01:37] <aesrhsdf> But what does it do?
[01:37] <reisio> aesrhsdf: it's hard to imagine you don't already know
[01:37] <aesrhsdf> ...?
[01:37] <reisio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[01:37] <aesrhsdf> heh
[01:37] <reisio> yes, heh
[01:37] <reisio> very hilarious
[01:37] <aesrhsdf> still work on 16.04?
[01:37] <ragecraze> guys i have a problem! everytime i log into ubuntu i have to enable my wifi my commands, how do i make wifi start automatically?
[01:37] <aesrhsdf> reisio: I don't do bash
[01:37] <reisio> I don't see why it wouldn't
[01:38] <wedgie> aesrhsdf: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/059 a detaild breakdown, if you'd like
[01:38] <aesrhsdf> Ty
[01:39] <ragecraze> guys please help me :(
[01:39] <reisio> ragecraze: what commands?
[01:39] <tgm4883> ragecraze: what commands do you have to run
[01:39] <ragecraze> sudo ifconfig rename3 up and sudo service network-manager restart
[01:40] <ragecraze> how do i make wifi start automatically on startup without typing these commands?
[01:40] <reisio> rename3?
[01:40] <reisio> sounds like you've made a mess
[01:41] <ragecraze> yeah i installed a driver for my wifi card to work and it worked but these commands are annoying
[01:41] <ragecraze> where do i begin?
[01:42] <rifter> I am wondering how to install 32 bit libraries on lubuntu 16.10 (should be same process as other Ubuntus of that version, I'd imagine)
[01:42] <eddy> I need some help if possible.
[01:42] <rifter> eddy what can we do for you
[01:43] <ragecraze> any help please?
[01:43] <eddy> I have just installed ubuntu dual boot on my new laptop but i cant get the wifi to turn on.
[01:43] <lasse_> Hi guys
[01:43] <reisio> ragecraze: I see three obvious choices for you: 1) put those commands into an "rc.local"/workalike and be done with it 2) fix your rename3 so it's not weirdly named and maybe NM will grok it 3) reconfigure NM manually to work with it
[01:43] <reisio> ragecraze: 1 will probably take the least amount of effort, 2 will be the best course
[01:43] <ragecraze> reisio lets go with number 1, how do i do that? im a newbie
[01:43] <eddy> my wifi adapter is an intel dual band ac-7265
[01:44] <eddy> I have never used linux before and do not know any commands
[01:46] <ragecraze> reisio?
[01:47] <reisio> ragecraze: probably like this: https://www.linuxbabe.com/linux-server/how-to-enable-etcrc-local-with-systemd
[01:47] <reisio> unfortunately I don't follow systemd usage
[01:47] <rifter> eddy, you may have to install proprietary drivers or something ..
[01:48] <reisio> (because I have standards :p)
[01:48] <rifter> ok no problem eddy if you open a terminal you can try the lspci command
[01:48] <rifter> that will give you the model of your card .. it will give you a bunch of other junk ytoo
[01:48] <rifter> but you're lookng for the wifi adapter
[01:49] <ragecraze> reisio bro this is too complicated for me, do i have to cd somewhere and make a text file there? if so please explain in easy words
[01:50] <rifter> if it is not an internal card or built into the system, and is instead a usb adapter, lsusb is the command you want
[01:50] <rifter> once we know what kind of adapter you have, we can find more accurate steps. Also what version of Ubuntu did you install?
[01:51] <rifter> if you do this command: cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:51] <rifter> it will show that if you don't know
[01:52] <eddy> rifter My wifi adapter is intel dual band AC-7265. The ubuntu version I have installed is 16.04.
[01:53] <rifter> lsusb : lists all plugged in usb devices. lspci: lists all pci devices (just think stuff that is inside the computer). cat just outputs a file's contents and /etc/lsb-release si a file Ubuntu puts there with release information
[01:53] <ragecraze> reisio??
[01:53] <rifter> ok cool
[01:53] <ragecraze> reisio??
[01:55] <rifter> I'm looking into it now
[01:55] <eddy> k thanks
[01:58] <rifter> I'm finding some information .. I know that ages past there was some stuff I had to install for my wifi to work. I'm looking at what some other people with your card encountered
[01:59] <LuMint> hello. I run ubuntu 14.04. Should I install the kernel 3.13.0-98 or 3.16.0-77?
[01:59] <LuMint> i have an older graphics card (nvidia-173) whose drivers doesn't compile for any newer kernel, so that's not an option.
[02:00] <rifter> I found this page on intel's site has some links t o firmware to your card, but I'm hesitant to say do that, because there used to be packages that installed the right firmware files. I need to look further before suggesting something that manual
[02:01] <Bashing-om> LuMint: Unless you gave some reason .. stay on the 3.13 series kernel . Greater compatibility .
[02:02] <LuMint> thanks
[02:02] <LuMint> Bashing-om: which is more secure, though?
[02:03] <LuMint> I couldn't find any info on the date 77 and 98 were released
[02:04] <Bashing-om> LuMint: security on either is not an issue . Same same considerations .
[02:05] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty | LuMint
[02:07] <rifter> eddy let's take this to a sidebar . looks like we have a lot to check
[02:08] <eddy> what is a sidebar?
[02:09] <nathani> anyone know how I can get gnome-terminal running on Windows 10? bash / export DISPLAY=:0 && gnome-terminal Doesnt seem to work
[02:10] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | nathani
[02:12] <nathani> Bashing-om: cool, except theres only 12 ppl in there  :-(
[02:14] <Bashing-om> nathani: That has nothing to do with the fact that we here do not do Windows .. even in ubuntu . Few here would have any idea .
[02:22] <Lassem> Hi guys ineed some help. Im trying to edit a config file for my Ark server. But the file i need to edit aint so easy to edit. i have mceditor but when i type mcedit GameUserSettings.ini the file is emty. do i use vim then i have to do vim ark/ShooterGame/Saved/Config/Linuxserver/GameUserSettings.ini/GameUserSettings.ini to gain acces ?
[02:22] <Lassem> how do i define the 2 string to mcedit  ?
[02:24] <Lassem> any one ?
[02:24] <Lassem> :)
[02:24] <Amm0n> A .ini should editable by any text editor
[02:25] <Lassem> Yea i know
[02:25] <Lassem> but
[02:26] <Lassem> I need to use edit but i only know how to tell it what name it is. its like its a .ini inside a .ini
[02:27] <timetocode> Are there date-related variables useable in systemd services? I want to start a service with something like this:  ExecStart=/path/to/nodejs /srv/www/somesite/app.js > /srv/log/app-*DATETIME*-log.txt
[02:28] <timetocode> Im a little new to linux so incase that is unclear the goal is to have a service that starts node and pipes to a log whose filename has a date in it (i dont want to overwrite logs if the service restarts)
[02:33] <Amm0n> Lassem, i don't know what you mean by that. Afaik a .ini is just a textfile. Maybe its related to encoding?
[02:34] <Lassem> When i type dir ShooterGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini
[02:35] <Lassem> it says: ShooterGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini
[02:35] <hwpplayer1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/877081/will-a-thinkpad-x61-run-ubuntu
[02:35] <Lassem> so how can i edit GameUserSettings.ini when there is 2 strings called the same ?
[02:35] <mann> Lassem, cd ShooterGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini/
[02:36] <mann> vi GameUserSettings.ini
[02:36] <rifter> guys I'm getting pulled into some stuff .. is there maybe someone who can help eddy with setting up his wifi adapter? I found some links to info but in order to troubleshoot my other problem I keep having to kill my browser
[02:36] <rifter> which is kind of making it hard to research his problem :P
[02:37] <Lassem> if im doin cd ShooterGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini/
[02:37] <Lassem> its says its not a dir
[02:38] <rifter> I just don't want him to have to wait on me
[02:40] <mann> Lassem, what does vi ShooterGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini do for you?
[02:42] <Lassem> it opens in the editer :I but i wanna use mcedit :)
[02:42] <Lassem> becouse im a noob and cant use vi :D
[02:43] <pauljw> Lassem, have you tried nano?
[02:43] <Lassem> nano ?
[02:44] <pauljw> just another editor that is a bit easier to figure out than vi
[02:44] <hiexpo> !nano
[02:45] <pauljw> thx hiexpo
[02:45] <hiexpo> yup pauljw
[02:46] <Lassem> Well il try it. I think i made it save the new config. Thanks for the help guys !
[02:48] <mann> Lassem, you can try to run sudo mcedit ShooterGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini see if it makes a difference
[02:50] <Lassem> Wow it did ! thanks man ! your a life saver !
[02:50] <Bashing-om> mann: Lassem :: If mcedit is a GUI app .. no want to do 'sudo' as there can and are undesired side effects !
[02:50] <Lassem> Dont think its a GUI app i dont  have a console
[02:50] <Lassem> gui *
[02:50] <Lassem> i run console
[02:51] <Amm0n> + the server is probably not installed as root and if he saves the file he has to chown back to normal user
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Lassem: You are golden then :)
[02:52] <mann> Bashing-om, what side effects would those be?
[02:53] <Amm0n> mann, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:53] <cuddylier> Is there a way to copy a sparse file without requiring the available space for the full image size? It's a RAW image.
[02:53] <mann> Ah.. I see Amm0n. Thanks.
[02:54] <Bashing-om> mann: mostly the changes in ownership of files and directories . ( messing about in /home with sudo and "root" will own your home ) .
[02:55] <mann> Interesting. Thanks for the heads up.
[02:56] <rifter> can someone help eddy with this problem? He has two computers ready so he can work on it. I am getting pulled away or I would keep trying to help him .. [19:43:59] <eddy> my wifi adapter is an intel dual band ac-7265
[02:57] <Bashing-om> mann: Mostly I too prefer 'sudo -H ' . That is pretty safe/ see ' man sudo ' .
[03:00] <mann> Bashing-om, doesn't look like a terribly bad issue.
[03:00] <mann> I imagine it's expected anything you edit/create via sudo w/e would be owned by root
[03:01] <mann> Seems like an inconvenience more than anything
[03:23] <bandit22> how to set file permissions for public shares so i (my user) xB add-delete content
[03:23] <blank> help on installing backtrack
[03:24] <PipeItToDevNull> The OS? This is ubuntu, Run Kali
[03:26] <blomstertj> PipeItToDevNull:He disconnected already
[03:26] <PipeItToDevNull> I have leave messages off, I will try to complete the username next time. My apologies
[03:40] <havoc_hive> hello world
[03:45] <mugly> hi
[03:45] <PipeItToDevNull> Hillo
[03:46] <mugly> any here speak spanish?
[03:49] <PipeItToDevNull> I beleive #ubuntu-es or something is spanish
[03:50] <PipeItToDevNull> Jesus
[03:52] <brian__> my computer freezes on suspend ubuntu 16.04.  i tried changing the grub splash screen, and it worked a few times but it stopped working after awhile.  Anyone know how to fix?
[04:15] <FrogCast> what is the nm-applet, and why is it using 600 megs of ram?
[04:18] <PipeItToDevNull> FrogCast: that is the applet that makes the wifi icon on your bar, but that is not normal
[04:18] <PipeItToDevNull> Is it always using that much? Does a reboot fix it?
[04:19] <FrogCast> PipeItToDevNull, see you in a bit; that will probably "fix it", but lately chrome has been causing my computer to freeze up by taking out every last resource.
[04:20] <PipeItToDevNull> It is chrome, it is shit
[04:20] <FrogCast> PipeItToDevNull, do not disagree, but the alternatives?
[04:20] <PipeItToDevNull> Firefox, Chromium, Vivaldi, Palemoon, IceWeasel, Midori
[04:21] <mpv> guys, I was trying to play a movie with subtitles using mpv but a lot of them wouldn't even show, so i launched it with the terminal and got the following error, http://pastebin.com/0iVyBMjm so ffmpeg has problems decoding the subtitles as it contains ´, i searched for the problem on google but i couldn't find a solution(or nothing too relevant) could i get some help?
[04:22] <FrogCast> PipeItToDevNull, if chromium could allow me to do the login where it saves my bookmarks, I'd switch
[04:22] <FrogCast> PipeItToDevNull, any idea if it does?
[04:23] <PipeItToDevNull> Functioning vs not trumps saving bookmarks IMO. Though Firefox supports the same and can import your Chrome setttings
[04:29] <brian__> my computer freezes on suspend ubuntu 16.04.  i tried changing the grub splash screen, and it worked a few times but it stopped working after awhile.  Anyone know how to fix?
[04:32] <malkauns> is there any other desktop environment that has trail-focus like compiz/unity?
[04:47] <nyaya> hello
[05:02] <jeffreylevesque> if i'm not using apparmor, what would happen if i add `-w /etc/apparmor/ -p wa -k MAC-policy` to the audit.rules?
[05:03] <joher> hi
[05:08] <raleigh> is there an easy way i can define my own shortcuts for text navigation (like forward/backward word) using the caps lock key as the modifier?
[05:08] <raleigh> ideally that would work in a terminal as well as any windows with text input
[05:11] <root_____> exit
[05:21] <asianperson_99> hello
[05:30] <Xz> hi there, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04LTS live from USB stick and when attaching HDMI display nothing happens. I see no activity in dmesg, I don't see external display in 'displays' menu.
[05:31] <Xz> what's going on? My hardware is HP Zbook 15G3 laptop with NVIDIA graphics card
[05:31] <Xz> I booted with 'nomodeset' in grub
[05:34] <root_____> hi
[05:36] <_0x7f_> null
[05:44] <crypticgator> I'm having trouble booting up.
[05:45] <crypticgator> My screen shows up for a split second every now and then.
[05:47] <crypticgator> and It has login... when I try to type the login it only accepts characters while the screen shows something.
[05:49] <crypticgator> CTRL-ALT-F1 makes it last for 4 seconds, then screen goes blank again
[06:03] <Xz> hi there, I'm trying to understand how Ubuntu live disk work
[06:03] <Xz> and grub kicks-off ubuntu.seed
[06:03] <Xz> what's that?
[06:19] <Kali_Yuga> hey I own a laptop with an nvidia geforce gt 730M. when i play Saints Row 4 a.e it's running pretty good I don't see any lagging. I am using nvidia drivers from different repo. but if I disconnect the AC from my Laptop the game instantly starts lagging. why it doesn't make much sense to me
[06:19] <Kali_Yuga> what has the AC to do with my graphics performance?
[06:20] <raleigh> change the power management mode
[06:20] <raleigh> to performance
[06:21] <Kali_Yuga> raleigh: ok I will try that
[06:22] <Kali_Yuga> raleigh: are you talking about the nvidia settings?
[06:23] <raleigh> i dunno where it would be in your setup
[06:24] <raleigh> but running the card wide open uses more power which reduces battery time so they probably turn it down
[06:24] <raleigh> and you need to change that setting
[06:24] <Kali_Yuga> well in my nvidia settings there is PowerMixer Option I can go to prefer maximum performance
[06:27] <alerazin> please need help
[06:28] <alerazin> vant buy an app i NEED
[06:29] <Kali_Yuga> ok it's not the PowerMixer in nvidia settings
[06:29] <alerazin> Not an editor
[06:30] <alerazin> try to pay with ubuntu one
[06:30] <alerazin> I can't
[06:31] <raleigh> what app do you need?
[06:32] <alerazin> never ask for my financial data
[06:33] <alerazin> first capture HD
[06:33] <eva-ubuntu> hi
[06:33] <eva-ubuntu> can i download and install ubuntu lts from here? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds
[06:35] <eva-ubuntu> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/141580/downloads
[06:35] <eva-ubuntu> any idea?
[06:38] <alerazin> someone can help me?
[06:39] <Kali_Yuga> I was reading this: http://superuser.com/questions/855372/why-are-my-games-slower-on-battery-power-even-with-the-power-plan-set-to-high-p ... it says performance laptops can't perform to 100% on batteries, even when all settings are adjusted to max performance. is this true, it got a lot of upvotes though
[06:41] <crypticgator> Kali_Yuga: I didn't click on the link, but it's plausible.
[06:42] <landstrider> #hackerrank
[06:42] <crypticgator> if your processor sees that there's no external power, it may decide to slow down
[06:45] <Kali_Yuga> ok well I just need to plug in the laptop if i want to game. graphics only start lagging when i'm on battery. with AC plugged in i do have decent framerates. ok thx was just a question, cuz it just seemed weird...
[06:47] <crypticgator> Ok have fun
[07:02] <tardis_> may I ask for help here?
[07:17] <htcoder> Hi people, I have been using for more that 3 years now ...Most of the time
[07:17] <htcoder> I install something for testing,programming etc ...
[07:17] <htcoder> and end up breaking my system ?
[07:18] <htcoder> Is there some sort of sandbox in linux, in which i can install my programs and once everything finish ...just delete
[07:18] <htcoder> :-!
[07:29] <Access1denied> :)
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[07:33] <nathani> hmm .. not enough ops in here
[07:33] <niee> tnx Drone`
[07:33] <dax> nathani: there are plenty of ops in here. we do not have 1 second reaction times at arbitrary times of day
[07:33] <dax> which is what the robot's for (which did it's job just fine)
[07:34] <dax> its*
[07:34] <nathani> my mistake
[07:38] <baizon> ehh
[07:40] <Access1denied> itake it ubuntu is not as popular as i hope
[07:46] <koen_> by default do we get to see the sha key of a particular file we download?
[07:54] <koen_> Hi I went over cksum sha1sum and md5sum,but when we download files from internet,where can we see the keys there?
[07:56] <Kali_Yuga> koen_: you can do like md5sum yourfile in terminal
[07:56] <koen_> Kali_Yuga: i can do that in terminal.but where can i check from internet
[07:57] <koen_> we should compare the keys right
[07:57] <koen_> most of the sites dont provide this hash
[07:57] <Kali_Yuga> oh
[07:57] <Kali_Yuga> koen_: are you talking linux distribution
[07:57] <Kali_Yuga> iso
[07:58] <koen_> I am not talking about linux end.. I am asking if there is a way to check the checksum of the  file in internet
[07:58] <killabyte> just install it we all gotta take chances
[07:58] <Kali_Yuga> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes they should be there somewhere for ubuntu
[07:59] <Kali_Yuga> if there are the same you're good
[07:59] <Kali_Yuga> they
[07:59] <killabyte> should be under your download link
[08:00] <killabyte> or somewhere on the same page
[08:02] <EriC^^> koen_: are you saying you want to verify a file before even downloading it to your pc?
[08:02] <koen_> EriC^^: yes exactly
[08:02] <Kali_Yuga> idk
[08:02] <EriC^^> koen_: you can download it using another pc like a shell and run the md5 there
[08:03] <EriC^^> /join #xshellz or #bshellz
[08:13] <Biosphere_50> so whatup
[08:30] <mike_602> what up fooz :) lol
[08:37] <schweineanlage> hello?
[08:37] <Biosphere_50> hey
[08:37] <surveyor> hi
[08:37] <Biosphere_50> how are things in your neck of the woods
[08:46] <MegaNanel> Hi, I have an issue. ive ran setup of ubuntu 16.04 on my lenovo e41 and selected parallel to windows 10 installation. after succesfully installing i could not boot back into my windows 10 OS. im running legacy setting in my bios with UEFI optional.
[08:46] <MegaNanel> any help will be appreciated thanks
[08:47] <MegaNanel> ive tried boot repair via flash setup and it did not work
[08:47] <kang00> Bcdedit can be used instead of bios to change boot order?
[08:48] <ducasse> MegaNanel: if windows was installed in uefi mode (which it probably was) you need to switch back to boot it. both should be installed in the same mode.
[08:50] <harrypotter0> hi
[08:52] <wonton> ubuntu should probably be renamed now that obama is no longer president
[08:52] <MegaNanel> @ducasse How would i switch back? do you mean i need to remove ubuntu?
[08:52] <ducasse> wonton: it got the name long before he was
[08:53] <k0mat3> hello everybody some one can help me how to build firefox nigthly
[08:53] <ducasse> MegaNanel: no, you eed to switch the bios back to uefi to boot windows, and then legacy again to boot linux
[08:53] <k0mat3> with the source file
[08:54] <ducasse> k0mat3: try a mozilla/firefox channel
[08:59] <MegaNanel> @ducasse thanks will try it
[08:59] <dagerik> a box im handling is 16.04 but is running upstart and not systemd. How do I switch to systemd?
[09:00] <ducasse> dagerik: try to reinstall systemd-sysv
[09:06] <dagerik> ducasse: thanks!
[09:07] <dagerik> apache mod_ssl is disabled on each reboot. Can this be related to docker somehow?
[09:09] <MegaNanel> @duccase. so ive tried changing to uefi mode..
[09:10] <MegaNanel> @duccase it brings up network stuff.. saying searching for ipv4 boots
[09:14] <ducasse> MegaNanel: it would only work if windows is installed in uefi mode - you know that better than me.
[09:17] <robowarrior> hello, anyone uses xmonad here?
[09:20] <ducasse> robowarrior: maybe better to try #xmonad
[09:20] <robowarrior> ducasse: channel's sleeping.
[09:21] <ducasse> robowarrior: so is this one :)
[09:21] <robowarrior> damn my timezone difference
[09:21] <bazhang> https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Ubuntu robowarrior have a read
[09:26] <star_prone> hi
[09:27] <star_prone> I had ask this question here about two or three days ago but didn't had the time then to finish fixing the problem :(
[09:28] <star_prone> I have Ubuntu Server 14.04 installed in a virtualbox machine in text mode. I want to change the resolution but I just wasn't able to do it
[09:29] <star_prone> I have installed guest additions and also did the changes found here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17027/how-to-set-the-resolution-in-text-consoles-troubleshoot-when-any-vga-fail
[09:29] <bazhang> star_prone, change the resolution of what exactly
[09:29] <star_prone> (resource provided by someone on this channel
[09:29] <star_prone> )
[09:30] <bazhang> server has no gui by default star_prone
[09:31] <star_prone> bazhang: I know it has no gui, but this also mean that I can't change how big is the window displaying the virtual machine?
[09:31] <bazhang> star_prone, it's a vm on top of what system
[09:32] <ducasse> star_prone: why bother? can't you just run it headless and access it over ssh?
[09:32] <star_prone> bazhang: macos
[09:33] <star_prone> ducasse: that is exactly what I'm doing now, it's just that it bugs me I don't know how to make it full screen when it's not in headless mode :(((
[09:33] <star_prone> it's like an unsolved puzzle and I can't stop until I figure it out
[09:34] <bazhang> star_prone, so that would be a vm setting in macos
[09:34] <Xz> hey, can I install ubuntu on regular USB stick and boot it in UEFI secure mode?
[09:35] <ducasse> Xz: shouldn't be a problem, as you can boot the installer from usb
[09:36] <Xz> ducasse: so I tried that once, wasn't able to  boot after installation
[09:36] <Xz> ducasse: I tried 16.04LTS
[09:36] <tatertots> o
[09:36] <Xz> ducasse: is there any way I installed it somehow wrong?
[09:36] <bazhang> Xz, is secureboot on or off
[09:36] <ducasse> Xz: it's possible
[09:36] <Xz> bazhang: on
[09:37] <Xz> ducasse: so another thing is that I have SSD on that laptop with win10 on it
[09:37] <Capprentice> how to change network manager settings under ubuntu 16.10 from ssh over remote connection?
[09:37] <Xz> ducasse: and it has EFI partition on it
[09:37] <Xz> ducasse: but for installation I removed the SSD
[09:37] <Xz> ducasse: and then tried booting with SSD in
[09:37] <ducasse> !enter | Xz
[09:42] <dagerik> how can I install php xsl extension for php5.6?
[09:42] <ducasse> Xz: if you removed the ssd the installer would make a new esp on the usb stick. you need to tell the firmware which one to boot from.
[09:43] <Xz> ducasse: well, when I boot I press F9 to get to choose which device to boot off
[09:43] <Xz> ducasse: when I pick usb stick, it jumps right back to SSD like it didn't find anything to boot off on usb stick
[09:44] <ducasse> Xz: the bootloader might have been installed wrong.
[09:44] <Xz> ducasse: is it unusual? maybe I screwed something during partitioning in installer
[09:45] <ducasse> Xz: you need to select the esp for the bootloader, _not_ the full device as with legacy boot.
[09:45] <Xz> ducasse: let's say I format the usb stick and start from scratch - does my process make sense? I mean 1. remove SSD, 2. attach USB, 3. install on that USB, 4. put SSD back, 5. boot off USB or SSD in secure mode
[09:46] <Xz> ducasse: because that way I have 2 EFI partitions on two separate devices.
[09:47] <ducasse> Xz: you should probably read the uefi page on the arch wiki, especially this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#efibootmgr
[09:47] <ducasse> dagerik: which ubuntu version?
[09:49] <Xz> ducasse: the problem is if I start messing with EFI partition on SSD, then bitlocker on that drive starts complaining. Eventually I might fckup win10 that sits on SSD. The problem is that it is corporate laptop and that win10 has to work.
[09:50] <ducasse> Xz: no need to ever touch it.
[09:50] <Xz> ducasse: so I play only with bcfg on USB EFI partition?
[09:50] <Capprentice> how to change network manager settings under ubuntu 16.10 from ssh over remote connection?
[09:51] <Xz> Capprentice: apt-get remove network-manager
[09:51] <Xz> Capprentice: unless you really want it :)
[09:51] <Xz> Capprentice: I'm kidding
[09:52] <ducasse> Xz: you don't do anything special with any disk at all, you modify the efi boot variables.
[09:52] <ducasse> Capprentice: nmcli
[09:52] <Xz> ducasse: that's what might get bitlocker on SSD pissed off
[09:53] <Xz> ducasse: I changed something once and it wouldn't boot anymore, bitlocker was saying 'policy changed, not booting'. I managed somehow to revert it, so it boots win10 now. But it was scary. I'm afraid if I start messing with BIOS it will come back and I will not be able to get win10 to boot anymore.
[09:54] <ducasse> Xz: i have no idea about bitlocker, ask the ##windows people about that.
[09:55] <ducasse> Xz: but try to install correctly to usb then simply select it as boot device.
[09:56] <ducasse> Xz: just select the usb esp for grub.
[09:56] <Xz> ducasse: that's what I tried the other day - after selecting USB it would go right to SSD and kick off bitlocker
[09:57] <ducasse> Xz: was grub installed correctly?
[09:57] <Xz> ducasse: I might have done something wrong in Ubuntu installer while partitioning and selecting partition for grub
[09:57] <ducasse> Xz: that was what i was trying to say, yes.
[09:58] <Xz> ducasse: I figured there is couple of options, you can select /dev/sdx as a device, or /dev/sdx1, /dev/sdx2 etc.
[09:58] <Xz> ducasse: so should I install it to particular partition? or just select device?
[09:58] <ducasse> Xz: select the efi partition.
[09:58] <ducasse> Xz: NOT the full device
[09:58] <Xz> ducasse: ok, I can try that
[09:59] <Xz> ducasse: do I have to create EFI partition, or I can ask ubuntu installer to partition device for me?
[09:59] <ducasse> Xz: just choose auto-partitioning
[10:00] <Xz> ducasse: ok, will try that - autopartitioning and then put grub onto EFI partition
[10:00] <ducasse> Xz: (if the ssd is disconnected)
[10:00] <Xz> ducasse: yes, I can disconnect SSD in bios
[10:01] <ducasse> Xz: it should work, firmware doesn't know if you are booting an installer or full os. there is no difference in how they boot, basically.
[10:02] <Xz> ducasse: are you saying all the way up to GRUB there is no difference between LIVE and REGULAR distro?
[10:02] <Xz> ducasse: because I can boot LIVE just fine, as well as installer
[10:03] <ducasse> Xz: live basically is an installed system.
[10:04] <discovered> what is the good video recorder to make presentation for youtube?
[10:04] <Xz> ducasse: ok, will try installing again
[10:04] <ducasse> Xz: just configured a bit weird to run on read-only media
[10:04] <bazhang> discovered, from a screencast?
[10:04] <Xz> ducasse: squashfs?
[10:04] <ducasse> Xz: yes, nothing you need for regular install.
[10:05] <discovered> bazhang, I want to record my own desktop with voice
[10:05] <bazhang> discovered, what about kazam
[10:05] <Xz> ducasse: cool, hopefully it works this time
[10:05] <Xz> ducasse: thanks for your help!
[10:05] <discovered> bazhang, have to try it
[10:06] <ducasse> Xz: but all the way up to loading kernel + initrd everything is the same.
[10:06] <ducasse> Xz: np :)
[10:06] <ntldr> My brother's laptop suddenly has problem where he can login to his account then after 5-10 seconds he get's logged out.. guest can be logged in and not get thrown out..
[10:08] <ducasse> ntldr: look at ~/.xsession-errors for indications of problems
[10:09] <discovered> bazhang, and blender for video editing?
[10:10] <bazhang> discovered, lightworks, cinelerra, kdenlive
[10:10] <ntldr> ducasse how?
[10:11] <discovered> lightworks is not free ... right?
[10:11] <bazhang> !info flowblade
[10:12] <ducasse> ntldr: log in and get kicked out. press ctrl+alt+f1, log in there, read the file. alt+f7 to return to x11
[10:12] <bazhang> check out that one as well ^
[10:14] <tcorneli> hi, i have a question, but i'm not certain it's related to ubuntu: today all of a sudden i hear a very load noise, like a sine wave coming from the computer (running ubuntu) or the screen - i haven't determined which yet; anyone  got any ideas what might be causing this?
[10:14] <ntldr> ducasse uum not working..
[10:15] <bazhang> discovered, there is a non Pro version of lightworks
[10:15] <ducasse> !doesntwork | ntldr
[10:16] <bazhang> discovered, and finally 'openshot'
[10:17] <ntldr> ducasse, login and get kicked out, press ctrl+alt+f1 = nothing happens, log in there - get kicked out - read what file? alt-f7 - nothing happens.
[10:17] <CrazyTux> hello, does 16.10 contain newer versions of packages than 16.04.1? do they have more features than the those in LTS version?
[10:17] <bazhang> CrazyTux, which packages did you need with the more features
[10:18] <nmcunix> hi guys
[10:18] <ducasse> ntldr: ctrl+alt+f1 does not give you a console where you can log in?
[10:18] <CrazyTux> no. Just a general question?
[10:18] <CrazyTux> .
[10:18] <nmcunix> anyone here has a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 series laptop by chance ?
[10:18] <bazhang> CrazyTux, some, not all then
[10:19] <CrazyTux> core components of the distro?
[10:19] <ntldr> ducasse, no it literally does nothing at all. It doesn't do anything at desktop, it doesn't do anything at login screen
[10:19] <CrazyTux> I don't know what all a Linux OS contains in the backend.
[10:19] <tatertots> nmcunix: just tell us what problem you are having
[10:19] <tatertots> l
[10:19] <ducasse> ntldr: whar about ctrl+alt+f2..f6?
[10:20] <Xz> ducasse: just installed, didn't boot :(
[10:21] <Xz> ducasse: but it didn't create UEFI partition
[10:21] <Xz> ducasse: maybe  because USB stick I booted from had one?
[10:21] <nmcunix> @tatertots well its just very finicky with all linux distros i've realized .. seems to be because of the Intel + Nvidia graphics ..
[10:22] <ntldr> decasse nothing, tested on desktop as guest and in login screen pressing ctrl+alt+f1-f12 nothing is opening
[10:22] <nmcunix> just wanted to know if installing the procesor microcode is recommended
[10:22] <tatertots> nmcunix: "finicky"
[10:22] <Xz> ducasse: I booted live and then from there I did 'install ubuntu'. In other words, I didn't pick 'install' optiion in grub.
[10:22] <tatertots> nmcunix: that's specific
[10:22] <christian_> MOIN
[10:22] <christian_> HELLO
[10:22] <ducasse> Xz: try manual partitioning, create an esp and select it for grub.
[10:23] <christian_> my name is christian
[10:23] <Xz> ducasse: ok
[10:24] <ducasse> ntldr: nothing should open, you should get sent to a text console.
[10:24] <tatertots> nmcunix: install it if you want to.....don't expect anything to change
[10:25] <nmcunix> @tatertots for instance ... booting the live usb or installer hangs unless I edit the grub entry adding "nomodeset"
[10:25] <blackhat> Hello
[10:25] <ducasse> nmcunix: which ubuntu version is this, and what gpu is in the machine?
[10:25] <ducasse> ntldr: *^^
[10:25] <nmcunix> @ducase its ubuntu 16.10
[10:25] <k1l_> CrazyTux: in general ubuntu stays on the same version of packages after its released. that is called stable release system
[10:26] <avieks> any ideas, mounting cifs shares at boot was working. i started to mess around and then it broke totally, now i have to put them in rc.local with sleep 5?
[10:26] <nmcunix> ubuntu-gnome doesnt work at all
[10:26] <nmcunix> ubuntu-mate seems to be ok
[10:26] <christian_> im from germany
[10:26] <christian_> you?
[10:26] <christian_> mehr kann ich leider nicht
[10:26] <christian_> 0123456789
[10:26] <christian_> 1234567890ß
[10:26] <christian_> 09876543222222222222qayxcvbnm,.-ä#+üpoiuztrewwwsdfghjklö
[10:26] <ducasse> ntldr: ubuntu version and gpu?
[10:27] <CrazyTux> ok
[10:27] <nmcunix> but if i only install the nvidia binary then problems will come .. hanging and so on
[10:27] <ntldr> ducasse latest ubuntu LTS and 9600M GT
[10:27] <nmcunix> gtx m
[10:27] <nmcunix> gtx 960m
[10:27] <tatertots> nmcunix: well when you're done venting about it "sudo apt install inxi pastebinit"   in terminal
[10:28] <tatertots> nmcunix: wake me up when it's done installing
[10:30] <nmcunix> pastebinit is already installed
[10:31] <tatertots> nmcunix: good, that would mean you would only have inxi to install then....so wake me up when its installed
[10:32] <nmcunix> done
[10:32] <nmcunix> inxi is there
[10:32] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[10:33] <tatertots> nmcunix: press enter       share url/link here
[10:34] <nmcunix> Link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23879790/
[10:34] <karthik_> anybody having idea about ettercap
[10:34] <karthik_> ?
[10:35] <ducasse> !ask | karthik_
[10:36] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit
[10:36] <tatertots> nmcunix: press enter       share url/link here
[10:36] <karthik_> Sure @ducasse
[10:37] <karthik_> I need help with ettercap, anybody please help me out.
[10:37] <bazhang> karthik_, ettercap-graphical ?
[10:38] <karthik_> nope ettercap non gui
[10:38] <bazhang> karthik_, you need to detail exactly what help you need with that
[10:39] <nmcunix> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x80 in position 12574: invalid start byte
[10:39] <karthik_> i'm getting an error "Entry outside a section in etter.conf line 1"
[10:40] <tatertots> nmcunix: did you make a typographical error?....it's highly likely
[10:40] <nmcunix> nope
[10:40] <nmcunix> if i do cat alone on the file
[10:40] <nmcunix> i get the output
[10:41] <nmcunix> but piping it to pastebin is the problem
[10:41] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:41] <nmcunix> ok
[10:41] <karthik_> When I enter the command ettercap -Tq -M arp:remote -i eth0 it is showing the error ""Entry outside a section in etter.conf line 1"
[10:41] <nmcunix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23879804/
[10:42] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     apt list --installed|grep nvid|pastebinit
[10:42] <tatertots> nmcunix: press enter       share url/link here
[10:42] <Satan_> hi niggers
[10:44] <nmcunix> results are blank
[10:44] <tatertots> nmcunix: try it without pastebin
[10:45] <bombsl> this decryption swi&CNJCtKVbCyyAmNG8PqFZsYpyXegEQRGt , how can i decode it ? , its swi so what is it ?
[10:45] <tatertots> nmcunix: seems you're having some pipe to pastebin problems but we'll just try to work around that when possible
[10:45] <tatertots> nmcunix: i'm going to start going a bit faster..try to keep up
[10:45] <bombsl> encryption*
[10:46] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit
[10:46] <tatertots> nmcunix: press enter       share url/link here
[10:46] <nmcunix> i dont really care for the nvidia driver binaries to be installed because it causes my system to hang often .. but once the intel graphics drivers are there im good
[10:46] <zerous> !patience
[10:46] <nmcunix> ok let me run that
[10:47] <nmcunix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23879829/
[10:48] <tatertots> nmcunix: ok so you didn't provide %100 of the info requested so i'd like to revisit that
[10:48] <tatertots> nmcunix: because it's important
[10:48] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     apt list --installed|pastebinit
[10:49] <nmcunix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23879836/
[10:51] <tatertots> nmcunix: your nvidia installation was not successful, you then removed it which because the initial installation was abnormal, left your computer in a state that still expects the nvidia binary to be present, thus the nouveau FAIL in your inxi and also the nvidia failure in your xlog
[10:52] <tatertots> nmcunix: with that having been said, it's no wonder you used the term "finicky" to describe your operational status
[10:52] <nmcunix> this is a fresh install
[10:52] <nmcunix> i didnt remove anything
[10:52] <nmcunix> all i did was run system updates
[10:53] <tatertots> nmcunix: ok, so whats your next move?
[10:53] <[twisti]> hey, my attempt of installing mariadb is stuck at 94%. can i somehow cancel it and reattmpt to install it ?
[10:53] <Xz> ducasse: I think I got it installed right
[10:53] <tatertots> nmcunix: in terminal>     dmesg|pastebinit
[10:53] <Xz> ducasse: however, I have to modify grub command line to work with my graphics card, I need 'nomodeset'
[10:54] <Xz> ducasse: if I go to my USB stick, /boot/grub/grub.cfg it says not to modify it. How do I add nomodeset to my grub command line then? If I cannot boot that system all the way
[10:54] <ducasse> Xz: you can do that during boot, spam esc to get to the grub menu
[10:54] <Xz> ducasse: ok, I can try esc
[10:57] <ducasse> Xz: if that doesn't get you the grub menu, try left shift, but it should be esc on uefi systems
[10:59] <thinky> hellow
[10:59] <thinky> may i ask why cant i drag and put icons on desktop on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[11:00] <nmcunix> tatertots: nevermind bro .. i will figure it out. Thanks
[11:00] <avieks> any ideas, mounting cifs shares at boot was working. i started to mess around and then it broke totally, now i have to put them in rc.local with sleep 5?
[11:00] <tatertots> nmcunix: good luck with that...you're welcome
[11:01] <avieks> i've read about bugs but what's interesting is that it worked before
[11:02] <Xz> ducasse: ok, it's pointless; after enabling SSD back in BIOS my installed UBUNTU doesn't show up anymore in UEFI boot menu
[11:02] <Xz> ducasse: it's long gone
[11:03] <ducasse> Xz: you can't select usb as boot device?
[11:03] <Xz> ducasse: I can't. I think I even know why - because there is two EFI partitions then
[11:03] <Xz> ducasse: and UEFI probably wants only one
[11:04] <ducasse> Xz: that shouldn't be a problem, my desktop has two of them, but your firmware sounds... odd.
[11:04] <Xz> ducasse: you have two EFI partitions as well?
[11:05] <ducasse> Xz: two esps, yes.
[11:05] <Xz> ducasse: by ESP you mean FAT32 with EFI\BOOT dir?
[11:05] <ducasse> Xz: yep, efi system partition.
[11:06] <i-am-Fuk> Hi
[11:06] <i-am-Fuk> what happens if you put on a shirt and sweats, wrap yourself in aluminum foil and then put on 3 winter coats and like 3 more pairs of sweats, and start a bar fight?
[11:07] <Xz> ducasse: by the way, LIVE stick has efi\boot\bootx64.efi and grubx64.efi structure
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> i-am-Fuk  wrong channel
[11:08] <Xz> ducasse: stick with installed distro has EFI\ubuntu\...
[11:08] <i-am-Fuk> MonkeyDust: but what happens?
[11:08] <Xz> ducasse: so even directory structure is different between these two
[11:08] <Xz> ducasse: I can try to modify EFI partition for installed UBUNTU
[11:10] <i-am-Fuk> electricity takes path of least resistance
[11:10] <i-am-Fuk> i.e. across the foil
[11:10] <i-am-Fuk> ur taserproof
[11:10] <ducasse> Xz: it's not about the directory structure, efi\boot\bootx64.efi is just the default place for the firmware to look
[11:10] <i-am-Fuk> and u super glue yourself to the ceiling and piss in the beer
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> i-am-Fuk  stop
[11:11] <i-am-Fuk> MonkeyDust: why?
[11:11] <i-am-Fuk> i am describing the perfect crime
[11:11] <i-am-Fuk> and how to piss in beer
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> i-am-Fuk  this is the ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel
[11:12] <i-am-Fuk> MonkeyDust: but i am permanently banned from chat channels
[11:12] <i-am-Fuk> technically i am permanently banned from the network but i am ban evading
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> !ops
[11:12] <i-am-Fuk> !ops | we got a nigger abusing ubottu
[11:13] <i-am-Fuk> !ops | someone abused the bot
[11:14] <Dr_Coke> lol
[11:15] <Xz> ducasse: well, changing the name didn't work
[11:15] <Speiros> Hi all.  I typed the wrong password three times in a row, and it's closed off access to my other installed drives.  How do I get them back with permissions in the user account again?
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[11:19] <thinky> hi
[11:19] <Xz> ducasse: tried copying all stuff from EFI partition USB LIVE to EFI partition USB REGULAR-DISTRO
[11:19] <thinky> how can i install suru or ubuntu mobile or unity icon set on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[11:20] <Xz> ducasse: still not showing up in UEFI boot manager
[11:20] <Xz> ducasse: and USB-LIVE stick shows up
[11:20] <thinky> i installed tweak tool but it only changes status indicator icons above
[11:20] <thinky> not general icons
[11:21] <thinky> can anybody help me please?
[11:22] <ducasse> Xz: try this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#UEFI_firmware_workaround
[11:23] <thinky> am i invisible? :S
[11:23] <ducasse> thinky: no, you're not.
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> thinky  use the up arrow to repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who knows the answer
[11:24] <thinky> then they may ban me for repeating? :p
[11:24] <avieks> 15 minutes delay sounds ok? :p
[11:24] <thinky> lol
[11:24] <thinky> ok
[11:24] <avieks> idk
[11:24] <Speiros> thinky don't do it too often, but someone will probably come on soon who may know.
[11:24] <thinky> can anyone pls help me to install cool unity suru or mobile icons pls ?
[11:25] <thinky> well usually it doesnt take so much time but
[11:25] <ducasse> thinky: that wasn't 15 minutes...
[11:25] <thinky> this time nobody responded
[11:25] <thinky> weird
[11:25] <thinky> lol ducasse
[11:25] <thinky> i am impatient
[11:29] <Xz> ducasse: ok, my USB simply doesn't boot
[11:29] <Xz> ducasse: it does all sort of crazy stuff, but doesn't boot
[11:30] <Xz> ducasse: I think I will leave .ext4 partition untouched and will remove 500MB FAT32 EFI partition, will put live-image onto it, then modify initramfs to chroot into ext4 instead of squashfs
[11:30] <Xz> ducasse: does that make sense?
[11:32] <Xz> ducasse: except I'm not sure whether initramfs (aka casper) doesn't have to be signed
[11:32] <ducasse> Xz: i'm running out of suggestions, i suggest you carefully read through the uefi and grub articles on the arch wiki to see if you might have missed something. they are quite detailed.
[11:35] <aer> is there a way to find the sha1 key of any file in internet
[11:35] <aer> not after downloading,before downloading
[11:36] <Xz> aer: you can download to VPS first and then checksum
[11:36] <Xz> aer: and download to another location and compare
[11:36] <aer> Xz: VPS?
[11:36] <Xz> aer: virtual private server
[11:36] <aer> Xz: before downloading is there a way to find this?
[11:37] <Xz> aer: logically no
[11:37] <ducasse> Xz: only the kernel is signed afaik
[11:37] <aer> oh ok coz' very few packages provide these keys
[11:37] <ducasse> aer: you obviously need to read the file to find checksum, so no.
[11:37] <Xz> ducasse: ok, so worst case I will hack LIVE image, point it to my installation and I'm good to go
[11:37] <Xz> ducasse: *current* installation
[11:38] <ducasse> Xz: or make a live stick with persistence
[11:38] <Xz> ducasse: but that will still use squashfs
[11:38] <Xz> ducasse: I would rather have live stick with regular partition
[11:44] <ntldr> I will probably just do reinstall from whole OS since no solution is found from google or anywhere
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> ntldr  solution for what
[11:47] <ntldr> MonkeyDust problem where after you login you'll get logged out after 5-10 seconds back to login screen where you choose which account to use. When using guest account it won't logout only when using the main account
[11:56] <ragecraze> guys everytime i restart my computer i have to reenable my wifi by commands, how do i make the wifi start automatically+
[11:56] <ragecraze> ?*
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> ragecraze  try the wicd program
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> !info wicd
[12:01] <ragecraze> !info wicd <command not found>
[12:01] <ragecraze> how do i do that?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> ragecraze  sudo apt install wicd
[12:01] <ragecraze> bro whats that
[12:02] <ragecraze> monekydust i did, what do i do now?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> ragecraze  run wicd
[12:03] <ragecraze> MonkeyDust how do i run it? !info wicd doesn't work still
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> ragecraze  run it from the menu
[12:04] <ragecraze> ok i just run it, what do i do now MonkeyDust?
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> ragecraze  mark 'automatically connect'
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Good Day all
[12:10] <surveyor>  o/
[12:19] <blackhat> good day all
[12:20] <cow__> __
[12:20] <mathematic-alpha> Hi all I will like to participate in the Ubuntu dev but I am still a novice
[12:21] <mathematic-alpha> Can someone help?
[12:25] <clissold345> mathematic-alpha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[12:27] <mathematic-alpha> Thanks clissold345
[12:27] <mathematic-alpha> :)
[12:28] <clissold345> mathematic-alpha: You're welcome. Good luck!
[12:28] <mathematic-alpha> Thanks
[12:33] <wakeup> hello
[12:33] <wakeup> how can I install Viber to the
[12:33] <wakeup> ubuntu
[12:33] <wakeup> ?
[12:35] <wakeup> I tried this solution
[12:35] <wakeup> http://askubuntu.com/questions/340924/how-to-install-viber-in-ubuntu
[12:35] <tatertots> wakeup: did you check the viber minimum system requirements?
[12:35] <tatertots> wakeup: that might give you some clue
[12:36] <tatertots> wakeup: when software is commercially created, it's customary to publish what's known as "minimum system requirements"
[12:36] <wakeup> I have super machine :)
[12:37] <tatertots> wakeup: these published minimum system requirements serve to act as a guide if you will, for end users that may desire to install said software.
[12:38] <wakeup> yes I understand
[12:38] <tatertots> wakeup: thus it's usually suggested that an end user observe these requirements when considering a software as a candidate for installation on ones computer.
[12:39] <wakeup> but I have 6Gb ram, quad core processor ectr ectr
[12:40] <tatertots> wakeup: you would need to find the published minimum system requirements for Viber, then taking these requirements in consideration one can determine if the software is a suitable candidate for installation.
[12:41] <wakeup> ok, thanks a lot
[12:41] <tatertots> wakeup: you're welcome
[12:42] <wonderworld> wakeup: maybe use an android emulator like genymotion
[12:43] <wakeup> good idea, thanks
[12:45] <wakeup> maybe with wine
[12:46] <Access1denied> I just installed it without a problem
[12:49] <wakeup> do you have 32 bit ubuntu?
[12:54] <Access1denied> 64.
[13:10] <Plushwolf> Hi, is it true that only the main repository of the LTS version gets 5 years of support?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Plushwolf  where did you read or hear that?
[13:11] <Plushwolf> a recent article from a magazine
[13:13] <arobase> I have a file with 3 columns separated by many spaces and tabulations, I want just to delete these spaces and tabulations by replacing them by "-". How I can do that?
[13:14] <Plushwolf> That said only the main repository in 16.04 gets full update support etc
[13:14] <Plushwolf> The others are not guraranteed
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> arobase  you can use 'sed' to do that
[13:14] <ledeni> Plushwolf, could be server
[13:14] <rommel> is there a support channel for steam on ubunto 16.04lts
[13:15] <rommel> u
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> rommel  try #ubuntu-steam
[13:15] <rommel> awsome
[13:17] <Access1denied> #ubuntu-zimbra
[13:17] <arobase> Plushwolf: What's the command "sed" to use ? thant my question
[13:17] <tomreyn> Plushwolf: it used to be this way in 12.04 lts. nowadays it's different: main has full security support by canonical until EoL, 'universe' has security support 'by the community', multiverse gets no official security support / when someone gets to it.
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> arobase  here's an example ... use 'man sed' for more details ... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13538772/how-to-replace-space-with-comma-using-sed#13538795
[13:23] <arobase> MonkeyDust: Does this works also with many "tabulations + spaces" ?
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> arobase  not sure, but you can ask in the channel #bash
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> arobase  make a copy of the file and experiment on that copy
[13:25] <arobase> MonkeyDust: OK. Will do. thanks.
[13:27] <peter__> hello
[13:33] <peter__> hello all, i am ex : knittell
[13:33] <peter__> just installed a fresh ubuntu
[13:33] <peter__> i think thats why my name has changed
[13:34] <peter__> my question is here also a knoppix chat romm?
[13:41] <peter__> good afternoon all
[13:41] <tomreyn> !alis | peter__
[13:41] <peter__> tx
[13:41] <tomreyn> and there is #knoppix
[13:42] <peter__> i go to install knoppix but i have issue with the sound
[13:42] <peter__> just to learn
[13:42] <peter__> ubuntu works fine hre
[13:42] <peter__> pity but no questions about it yet
[13:42] <peter__> and tx tomreyn
[13:43] <tomreyn> they use different audio systems
[13:43] <Dworf> hi, any ideas why apache with ssl support won run php files on /var/www/html?
[13:43] <Dworf> when connecting ssl
[13:44] <peter__> found, so i try to talk about the OS in the channel where it supposed to be
[13:45] <peter__> yeah i,ve seen it yesterday
[13:45] <peter__> but i have no idea what and "howto" with alsa and kmix
[13:45] <tomreyn> Dworf: since you have not provided any detzails, one could only guess. here is a guess: the php file type is not configured to be handled by the php interpreter on your (default?) HTTPS vhosts
[13:45] <peter__> so somebody have to show me if possible
[13:46] <peter__> knoppix installs really fast by the way
[13:46] <tomreyn> peter__: this channel is only for ubuntu support, so if your questions are about knoppix, please ask there.
[13:46] <Dworf> tomreyn: hmm, so in sites-available should be configured php file somehow?
[13:46] <peter__> Kk, will do
[13:46] <peter__> true
[13:47] <tomreyn> Dworf: which ubuntu release, which php model (mod_php, fcgid, fpm, ...)?
[13:48] <Dworf> 16.04lts with php7
[13:48] <Dworf> not sure about model
[13:48] <tomreyn> Dworf: are all of these packages from ubuntu proper, or are you using PPAs / third party repositories?
[13:48] <Dworf> yes
[13:48] <tomreyn> to an "or" question, do not answer "yes" / "no"
[13:48] <Dworf> i have installed letsencrypt ssl
[13:49] <Dworf> sorry, its ubuntu proper :D
[13:49] <tomreyn> which php packages have you installed?
[13:49] <Dworf> is there easy way to find out?
[13:50] <tomreyn> are you following some how-to (which?) or are you doing this on your own?
[13:50] <tomreyn> dpkg -l '*php*' | grep ^i
[13:50] <Dworf> i did, some lamp stack and then nextcloud and then letsencrypt, all worked good, but /html/ cant do php
[13:51] <Dworf> well, there is quite list tomreyn
[13:51] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Dworf
[13:51] <Dworf> http://pastebin.com/xsnWPt0N
[13:52] <shibaloma> !hd
[13:52] <shibaloma> !s interstellar
[13:52] <peter__> its not popumlar it seems so, almost nobody home :(
[13:55] <tomreyn> Dworf: packages ibapache2-mod-php and libapache2-mod-php7.0  suggest you are using mod_php
[13:56] <Dworf> makes sense
[13:56] <tomreyn> Dworf: does php not handle .php files in general (both via http and via https), or just via httpS? your initial statement was not clear on this.
[13:57] <Dworf> well i have not enabled http
[13:57] <Dworf> so all i can do is with https
[13:57] <Dworf> but nextcloud is working fine
[13:57] <tomreyn> Dworf: you mean you configured apache not to listen on the default http port?
[13:57] <Dworf> its in /var/www/nextcould/ and then webpage is /var/www/html/
[13:58] <Dworf> sites-available 000-default = empty
[13:58] <Dworf> default-le-ssl has vhost inside
[13:59] <tomreyn> nextcloud is a php application, unless i'm mistaken, and if 'this works' it means that some PHP files are processed by PHP.
[13:59] <Dworf> yes it is
[13:59] <Dworf> that right
[14:00] <tomreyn> so the actual problem you are describing is that the php interpreter will handle .php files on some but not other virtualhosts? or in some but not other directories on the same virtualhost?
[14:01] <Dworf> http://pastebin.com/qMaMH4gv
[14:01] <Dworf> thats the vhost
[14:02] <Dworf> i think nextcloud is using defaul ssl configuration or something
[14:08] <tomreyn> Dworf: so this virtualhost lives in /var/www/html and you say that php files in "/html/" (not sure where this is since this looks like a relative path?) does "not work". you also say that the nextcloud webpage is in /var/www/html. i assume the 'nextcloud webpage' consists of PHP scripts?
[14:09] <tomreyn> so without more details this seems contradictory.
[14:09] <Dworf> no, nextcloud full dir is /var/www/nextcloud/
[14:09] <Dworf> ment my webpage, not nextcloud
[14:09] <Dworf> its in www/html/
[14:10] <tomreyn> another relative path?
[14:10] <Dworf> /var/www/nextcloud = full nextcloud dir with all the needed files
[14:10] <Dworf> /var/www/html/ = full mysitedir with all the files inside
[14:11] <Dworf> and yes, nextcloud is working fine, mysite wont
[14:12] <tomreyn> so nextcloud is located at /var/www/nextcloud/ , accessed via an unknown virtualhost, and php files are interpreted by mod_php there. your own php web application is in /var/www/html/ and php files are not interpreted by mod_php there.
[14:12] <tomreyn> correct?
[14:13] <Dworf> yes i guess, dunno about "interpreted by mod_php" -thing tho
[14:13] <Dworf> cause i havent done anything with mod_php
[14:14] <tomreyn> you are doing something with mod_php right now, running the nextcloud php script files.
[14:14] <tomreyn> great, now we're getting to a point where you almost provided all the necessary information to debug this issue.
[14:14] <Dworf> yes but it works automatic so :D
[14:14] <Dworf> well, that would be great if we get this thing work! :P
[14:15] <tomreyn> now how is the /var/www/nextcloud/ directory handled by apache and mod_php? do you have a separate virtualhost configured for it?
[14:15] <Dworf> yes
[14:15] <Dworf> there is /etc/apache2/sites-available/nextcould.conf
[14:15] <tomreyn> may i see it?
[14:16] <Dworf> here u go
[14:16] <Dworf> http://pastebin.com/X8bTH5p3
[14:18] <tomreyn> Bob8989|3 Bob89893 Bob89895 that's a lot of you
[14:18] <Dworf> :D lot of bobs
[14:20] <tomreyn> Dworf: okay, so there is nothign about php in there. so the configuration which decides which php files will be ointerpreted by mod_php and which wont must be located either in /var/www/nextcloud/ (or below) in a .htaccess file, or in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*php*.conf (or some other place below /etc/apache2/ but that's a bit less likely now)
[14:20] <airking> So I've downloaded a file with lynxs, and now I need to know eherr it dwnloaded to...
[14:20] <tomreyn> look for it. unfortunately I don't remember what it's called exactly. it's probably something like "AddType .php php-script"
[14:20] <airking> i cant seem to find it
[14:21] <tomreyn> Dworf: ^
[14:21] <tomreyn> airking: i wasn't talk to you there, sorry
[14:21] <Dworf> there is php7.0.conf
[14:21] <Dworf> at mods-enabled/
[14:21] <tomreyn> Dworf: have you modified it?
[14:21] <airking> tomreyn: youre fine.
[14:21] <Dworf> no
[14:22] <tomreyn> Dworf: do you still have the link for the installation guide you followed to setup nextcloud?
[14:22] <Dworf> cant remember the guide anymore
[14:23] <Dworf> i created that like a half year ago
[14:23] <Dworf> havent needed the /html/ dir before
[14:23] <Dworf> i did install wordpress and then unistalled it, but i think there was nothing to do with this
[14:27] <tomreyn> Dworf: we could spend more time on this but it would be much easier for someone who actually got an apache2 webserver with mod_php on 16.04 around (and i don't) so it's not that easy for me to make an educated guess where the instructions is (and what it looks like) that makes apache pass handling of .php files stored in /var/www/netcloud/ to mod_php but not those stored in /var/www/html
[14:28] <Dworf> okay :/
[14:28] <Dworf> well i need to keep digging
[14:29] <tomreyn> next time you look for help with debugging your apache2 configuration and PHP, please be prepared to provide most of the questions i asked on your own.
[14:29] <tomreyn> it makes helping so much easier
[14:29] <Dworf> ye ill try, im just kinda newbie with these :D
[14:30] <tomreyn> yes that's fine, i noticed it's not because you don't want to, just that you coul dnot tell which information is needed.
[14:30] <tomreyn> but now you know ;)
[14:30] <Dworf> ye, but thanks!
[14:30] <Dworf> hah :D
[14:31] <RedPenguin> Hello all
[14:31] <t7> hey, is there an easy way to use latest firefox stable on ubuntu 16.10
[14:32] <RedPenguin> I am running 16.04LTS and even though my system a while back ran 14.04LTS just fine, there seems to be some lag I can't figure out since the last month or so's updates
[14:32] <RedPenguin> I ran top, I see mysqld and mythtv using some CPU/RAM whicgh is normal
[14:32] <RedPenguin> but when you open Chrome for example, the system really slows down
[14:32] <RedPenguin> 2.1GHZ Dual-Coore/6GB RAM
[14:32] <tomreyn> Dworf: Use apache2 -S to output all of your virtualhost confgurations, this can be quite convenient in fact finding, too.
[14:34] <tomreyn> RedPenguin: how old is that dual core?
[14:34] <tatertots> RedPenguin: so you have some lag when using mythtv and browsing the internet at the same time with chrome?
[14:36] <RedPenguin> It was given to me so I am not 100% sure the age but it's an Athlon 64 x2 4000+
[14:37] <RedPenguin> tatertots: not only that but even if MythTV is entirely doing nothing, opening Kodi or using Chrome can by themselves can be rather sluggish
[14:37] <RedPenguin> But until the past month or so it never acted this sluggish
[14:37] <ducasse> !info firefox
[14:38] <ducasse> t7: ^^ that _is_ the latest stable.
[14:38] <t7> 50.1.0 != 51
[14:38] <t7> am i wrong?
[14:38] <RedPenguin> That reminds me, Firefox works mostly awesome but things go wonky when I try and use streaming video
[14:39] <ducasse> t7: see above - 51.0.1
[14:39] <tatertots> RedPenguin: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[14:39] <t7> wait
[14:39] <RedPenguin> done
[14:40] <tatertots> RedPenguin: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[14:40] <t7> ducasse: sorry!
[14:40] <tatertots> RedPenguin: press enter              share url/link here
[14:40] <RedPenguin> that's neat, an auto paster
[14:41] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23880848/
[14:41] <ducasse> t7: just run updates. if your mirror does not have it yet just wait a few hours.
[14:41] <tomreyn> RedPenguin: i understand that it was less of an inssue in the past (on the same ubuntu version?). still, this CPU dates back to 2008, and is ~5% as powerful as the currently fastest intel desktop cpu.
[14:42] <tomreyn> (10% of a current mid-range CPU)
[14:43] <RedPenguin> I think the video card probably isn't helping me much, doesn't seem to have vpdau
[14:43] <RedPenguin> I tried putting in a better card but the PC was having a hard time seeing it for some reason
[14:44] <tatertots> RedPenguin: is the system local to you, or is it at a remote location?
[14:44] <RedPenguin> local
[14:44] <tatertots> RedPenguin: hmmm inxi suggests xserver isn't running or you ran the inxi command "out of x'
[14:45] <daniel97> hi
[14:45] <tatertots> RedPenguin: in terminal>    xrandr|pastebinit
[14:45] <tatertots> RedPenguin: press enter              share url/link here
[14:46] <tatertots> RedPenguin: do you have a url/link to post?....or did you get error?
[14:46] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23880870/
[14:46] <RedPenguin> I ran it at first via SSH but this time ran it from inside the PC itself
[14:47] <tatertots> RedPenguin: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit
[14:47] <tatertots> RedPenguin: press enter              share url/link here
[14:47] <oty> was the spyware fonction (giving search keywords to amazone) removed from ubuntu ? Or disabled by default ? What about it today ?
[14:48] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23880877/
[14:48] <ducasse> oty: disabled by default >14.04
[14:49] <oty> Thanks ducasse
[14:50] <ducasse> oty: plus never there at all in the various flavors, only in unity (afaik)
[14:50] <tatertots> RedPenguin: inxi -Gx|pastebinit
[14:51] <oty> great ! Thank for the precision, I did think about that, didn't guessed someone would have an answer. x)
[14:52] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23880892/
[14:53] <tatertots> RedPenguin: journalctl -p 4|pastebinit
[14:54] <tatertots> RedPenguin: press enter              share url/link here
[14:55] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23880907/
[14:57] <tatertots> RedPenguin: journalctl -p 3|pastebinit
[14:57] <tatertots> RedPenguin: press enter              share url/link here
[14:59] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23880930/
[15:03] <tatertots> RedPenguin: ok well you should probably fix myth, its complaining pretty loudly
[15:04] <tatertots> RedPenguin: also that old crt isn't providing edid data
[15:04] <RedPenguin> that's VGA into an LCD TV
[15:04] <tatertots> RedPenguin: you should also check all disk drives for errors
[15:04] <RedPenguin> I thought maybe it was MythTV but I did check the backend to see if anything looked odd
[15:04] <RedPenguin> MythTV was having a tough time recording a 1080p online stream
[15:06] <tatertots> RedPenguin:  Either the server is down or the master server settings in mythtv-settings does not contain the proper IP address
[15:09] <kang00> What's equivalent of bcdedit for Linux
[15:09] <ducasse> kang00: efibootmgr
[15:09] <RedPenguin> I should say it was recording the stream but after say 3 min it recorded it with errors in the video
[15:10] <RedPenguin> I tested the stream on my quad-core laptop and it recorded the stream fine]
[15:10] <MarkB2> This is such a complicated question that I'm not sure where to begin.  My computer has two drives and uses Lilo to dual-boot between Windows and Slackware 32-bit Linux.  Now I need to add a third drive to boot Ubuntu 64-bit Linux.  Ubuntu uses grub2 and to make all this line up properly, I think I need to know how ubuntu "counts" disk partitions.
[15:11] <bekks> MarkB2: It starts counting at 0.
[15:12] <Dworf> tomreyn: got it work installing some packages
[15:12] <Dworf> tho now need to modify code cause php7 dont support anymore mysql_connect etc =0
[15:13] <MarkB2> bekks: See what I mean about a complicated question?  If I need to tweak Lilo or grub2 to boot the desired OS, I need to set root to the "correct" place.  This, I think, will also require changing /etc/fstab in ubuntu to get the partition assignments correct.
[15:13] <bekks> MarkB2: No, I dont see whats complicated at that point.
[15:14] <bekks> MarkB2: your first disk is sda, your second is sdb, etc.
[15:14] <bekks> So your third disk is sdc. All these map to hd0 => sda, hd1 => sdb, etc., in grub.
[15:17] <MarkB2> The ubuntu linux is on an external USB-connected drive.  That ..might.. map to /dev/sdc.  This computers BIOS allows me to select which device to boot at start.  From there, I can get into grub2's OS selection menu.  And I can get to a prompt.  Can grub2 "tell me" the list of devices it found?
[15:18] <bekks> MarkB2: In case you change drive order in BIOS, still the first detected drive is sda => hd0, etc.
[15:19] <bekks> And there is no point in changing your BIOS, since you can do all that from within your preferred bootloader on the first disk.
[15:19] <tatertots> RedPenguin: an 28 09:42:09 TV-MythTV smartd[812]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
[15:19] <bekks> MarkB2: In addition, Ubuntu ships with grub by default, but you can use lilo, without grub, for booting it.
[15:20] <MarkB2> Lilo (the preferred boot loader) has one disgusting flaw: if a specified drive isn't detected, the fool thing goes into a spewing rant, outputting "L0" all over the displays.
[15:20] <bekks> MarkB2: So dont use it then?
[15:21] <MarkB2> Nominally I'd agree.  That means I need to find the UUID for all the physical drives that are attached for grub2 for its mapping.  Which is why I asked, "Can grub2 tell me what it found?"
[15:22] <bekks> sudo blkid; done.
[15:22] <Scoop7> it's a long shot, but maybe anyone knows a lot about wget? And could give me some pointers on one q.
[15:23]  * MarkB2 runs to grab a pencil & paper .. should have had that at hand..
[15:23] <bekks> MarkB2: and from the grub prompt: ls -l
[15:26] <MarkB2> Alright.. I think I see what to do.  Get into grub2 at boot, get a grub> prompt, issue "ls -l" and get the list of identifiers.  THen starts more fun.
[15:27] <MarkB2> It won't boot ubuntu the way it is now... because the stuff in /etc/fstab isn't set properly.
[15:27] <MarkB2> But I can get into ubuntu.. or boot slackware and mount the ubuntu root partition.
[15:28] <MarkB2> What I should probably do is use UUIDs in fstab so I don't have to worry about which drive is doing what.
[15:28] <bekks> MarkB2: Thats what UUID are for.
[15:28] <squeakytoy> would linux.sh be worth something to sell? :|
[15:29] <MarkB2> bekks; <heh> True, I suppose.  I'm a little old-school.. started with CP/M-80, went through various incarnations of DOS, then found myself messing with Windows then Linux.
[15:29] <MarkB2> So I'm used to working with primary partition tables.
[15:30] <bekks> MarkB2: Me too. all I need is sdX1 for /boot and sdX2 for a LVM PV. :P
[15:30] <MarkB2> This hardware isn't robust enough to run virtual machines (which is what I think you meant by "LVM"?).
[15:31] <bekks> MarkB2: LVM hast nothing to do with virtual machines, since LVM is the Logical Volume Manager.
[15:31] <MarkB2> I'm just as happy it's got a 64-bit processor.
[15:31] <MarkB2> bekks: Thank you.  I assumed wrongly.
[15:32] <MarkB2> Alright.. now starts the fun.  I am so tired of plugging and unplugging SATA cables so as not to contaminate something else.
[15:33] <MarkB2> Thanks again.
[15:39] <jeblair> hi, i just updated firefox to 51.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 and it isn't rendering anything to the page area of the window (but otherwise seems to be working -- it downloads files and menus, etc, work fine).  i've observed this on two machines.  has anyone else seen this?
[15:42] <dcrochet_> #wikiversity-fr
[15:55] <RedPenguin> tatertots: checking in the MythTV room for those errors, I have everything configed for the correct IP (LAN IP) so not sure why it's erroring with 127.0.0.1 but gonna look more into the HD issue checked it not too long ago and it seemed to not have bad sectors
[15:57] <wook> has anyone else been having firefox memory usage issues the last week or 2?
[15:57] <wook> it's getting to the point where firefox is getting nearly unusable, especially all the javascript errors
[15:58] <RedPenguin> smartctl is reporting no bad sectors but prob best to run badblocks or something
[16:02] <ducasse> RedPenguin: run a long smart test with smartctl
[16:03] <RedPenguin> yea was thinking that, badblocks wants an unmounted FS which is sort of hard when it's your root drive
[16:07] <ducasse> RedPenguin: if a long smart test is ok and you're not seeing errors in dmesg you are probably fine. for now. that is the beautiful thing about drives, you often don't know they're failing until it's too late :)
[16:08] <RedPenguin> Yep that's why I like my backups so much, I've had non-important drives dead when I wake up before lol
[16:09] <RedPenguin> When you are still slightly tired is a great time to find a dead drive
[16:10] <RedPenguin> but mainly trying to figure out why it's saying "2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors"
[16:11] <RedPenguin> at least switching back to Firefox vs Chrome seems to make the PC way more responsive
[16:12] <BlueShark> I have 8 GB RAM, but PC is kinda very slow. Why's that?
[16:12] <BlueShark> Running Ubuntu 16.10
[16:13] <sirv> very slow ? maybe harddrive us slow
[16:13] <sirv> what cpu u have
[16:13] <RedPenguin> AMD Athlon 64 x2 4000+
[16:14] <RedPenguin> oh nvm asking soembody else
[16:14] <RedPenguin> lol
[16:14] <sirv> i think that is the problem
[16:14] <sirv> slow CPU
[16:14] <wook> has firefox stepped up their CPU usage in the last few weeks?
[16:14] <wook> it's sure seemed like it
[16:15] <BlueShark> sirv: what do you mean CPU?
[16:15] <BlueShark> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz
[16:15] <compdoc> x2 4000+ is very slow
[16:16] <compdoc> its several generations of cpus old
[16:16] <BlueShark> compdoc: mine?
[16:16] <compdoc> bo
[16:16] <compdoc> no
[16:17] <compdoc> the Athlon 64 x2 4000+
[16:17] <jeblair> i found a bug report and (temporary) solution to my firefox problem (does not render any webpages): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1659922
[16:18] <jeblair> the problem seems to be related to apparmor
[16:18] <compdoc> russian?
[16:18] <jeblair> the bug report was in russion.  according to google translate, it matches the symptoms.
[16:18] <jeblair> i added an english translation to the description... maybe i should update the title?
[16:19] <ducasse> BlueShark: are you running lots of stuff at the same time?
[16:20] <sirv> he is compiling android custom rom images in the background
[16:22] <sirv> compdoc > run 'top'
[16:22] <compdoc> its not me
[16:23] <sirv> and who ?
[16:23] <sirv> blueshark > run 'top'
[16:24] <erreere> hi
[16:24] <sirv> hi
[16:25] <erreere> how to change size of icons and text of the Menu ? Is it possible ?
[16:25] <sirv> which menu ?
[16:25] <erreere> the menu to launch apps, when we click on the task bar
[16:25] <erreere> The "K" like the start button
[16:25] <erreere> under KDE
[16:26] <sirv> ok that i dont know, i use unity
[16:26] <balic> pozdrav
[16:26] <balic> trebasm pomoć
[16:26] <ducasse> erreere: try #kubuntu
[16:26] <erreere> thks
[16:26] <jak2000> hi cant
[16:26] <balic> trebam pomoć oko wine
[16:27] <BlueShark> sirv: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23881353/
[16:27] <Tahr-Poop> hey i'm unable to lock ubuntu 16.10, pressing super+l just blackens the screen with white cursor... after moving the cursor it returns to normal state
[16:27] <noimnotninevolt> balic needs help with wine. in croatian.
[16:28] <jak2000> hi, cant install curl, i get a error: "update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header" and "dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure):" any advice how to fix?
[16:28] <ducasse> BlueShark: pastebin output of 'free -m'
[16:28] <BlueShark> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23881370/
[16:30] <ducasse> BlueShark: ok, so you're not swapping. can you define "slow"? _what_ is slow?
[16:30] <BlueShark> ducasse: chrome is often slow. it hangs when I have like more than 10 tabs.
[16:31] <ducasse> BlueShark: how many tabs were open when you got the 'free' output?
[16:31] <BlueShark> 14
[16:33] <noimnotninevolt> was chrome running slow at that time?
[16:33] <ducasse> BlueShark: you still have plenty of free memory, might be a graphics driver thing.
[16:34] <BlueShark> noimnotninevolt: yes
[16:34] <BlueShark> ducasse: how to check?
[16:34] <noimnotninevolt> then it's not lack of memory that's slowing things down.
[16:35] <ducasse> BlueShark: what driver are you using?
[16:36] <BlueShark> ducasse: you mean if I have installed additional graphics drivers?
[16:36] <BlueShark> nope;
[16:36] <ducasse> BlueShark: can you pastebin ouput of 'lspci -k'?
[16:39] <s7rawm4n> anyone here knowledgable on cron jobs?
[16:40] <noimnotninevolt> yes.
[16:41] <erreere> I see dnsmasq is installed by default. On my other distribution, I used dnsmasq ( installed by myself + some configurations for my private use). Is it possible now with the dnsmasq of  ubuntu ? Where i have to set my config ? Or maybe it's better to uninstall and install again ?
[16:41] <s7rawm4n> so for some reason my root cron job isn't running. It's basically a auto shutdown, but It appears it's never run, at least when I grep through the /var/log/syslog file It only shows the edits to my crontab, but never a run
[16:42] <s7rawm4n> I've set the script to executable as well.
[16:43] <s7rawm4n> any ideas?
[16:43] <noimnotninevolt> i wouldn't use cron for that, personally..
[16:43] <s7rawm4n> what would you suggest, I'm using ubuntu server so I don't have a gui.
[16:44] <noimnotninevolt> can you pastebin your crontab?
[16:44] <s7rawm4n> sure that's just "command" | pastebin correct?
[16:44] <ducasse> pastebinit
[16:45] <ducasse> s7rawm4n: ^^
[16:45] <s7rawm4n> gotcha
[16:47] <s7rawm4n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23881448/
[16:47] <BlueShark> ducasse: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23881450/
[16:47] <noimnotninevolt> :|
[16:47] <ducasse> s7rawm4n: we need to see the script as well
[16:48] <s7rawm4n> gotha
[16:48] <s7rawm4n> I wondered.
[16:48] <noimnotninevolt> not sure what you're not just doing `/sbin/shutdown -h now` but okay
[16:48] <noimnotninevolt> s/what/why/
[16:49] <s7rawm4n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23881458/
[16:50] <BlueShark> s7rawm4n: shutdown now is a valid command? Don't you need -h?
[16:50] <noimnotninevolt> also, you shouldn't need to sudo in a script.
[16:51] <s7rawm4n> BlueShark: you are correct
[16:51] <BlueShark> ducasse: does it matter if I don't have nvidia drivers installed?
[16:51] <ducasse> BlueShark: ok, you have a hybrid gpu set up with both nvidia and intel, i've never seen those so someone else should help you. i'm assuming you need either bumblebee or prime and the nvidia binary driver.
[16:52] <BlueShark> installing driver helps speed?
[16:52] <ducasse> BlueShark: the nvidia driver is much faster, offloads more to hardware.
[16:53] <s7rawm4n> noimnotninevolt: I'm setting up so I have a auto shutdown at night, and reboot in the morning.
[16:53] <ducasse> BlueShark: but as i said, i'm not familiar with these hybrid laptops.
[16:53] <s7rawm4n> it's a home server, so I don't really need it running all the time.
[16:53] <rile> if only nvdia drivers work ....i did fresh instal maybe 20 times . never wake ...up .
[16:54] <noimnotninevolt> i know nothing about auto-startup, but i do know you shouldn't need to sudo in a script that's running as root :P
[16:54] <Tahr-Poop> erreere, are you asking location of dnsmasq config file?
[16:54] <s7rawm4n> ya. It was a shot in the dark. I knew that.
[16:55] <ducasse> s7rawm4n: also, it strikes me that a systemd timer unit might be a better choice than cron for this.
[16:56] <BlueShark> ducasse: in usual cases though, installing graphic drivers help?
[16:56] <noimnotninevolt> i would just have a `ined #ubuntu
[16:56] <noimnotninevolt> 16:55 -!- HoppingMadMan is "realname" on #ubuntu
[16:56] <noimnotninevolt> woops, wrong paste.
[16:56] <ducasse> BlueShark: only answer to that is "it depends"
[16:57] <noimnotninevolt> i wouldn't just have a `sudo shutdown -h 23:45` on boot.
[16:57] <noimnotninevolt> i _would_. too early to type :P
[16:58] <erreere> Tahr-Poop: exactly. I was used to install myself and configure it with a /etc/dnsmasq.conf but on my ubuntu, dnsmasq  is running without this file... I can only find a /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager
[16:59] <noimnotninevolt> actually, your crontab has it running at 09:33 m-f? is that right?
[16:59] <s7rawm4n> that was a trial run yes.
[16:59] <s7rawm4n> ^^ and no. It should be every day, not jsut week days.
[16:59] <ducasse> erreere: iirc the full dnsmasq package is not installed, just a subset
[16:59] <noimnotninevolt> 1-5 is mon-fri
[17:00] <s7rawm4n> gotcha. that's what I get from following a tutorial, that doesn't explain a thing. * would be all days yes
[17:00] <noimnotninevolt> so if you add -h to shutdown in your script, it should work. and by work, i mean shut your box down at 09:33 mon-fri.
[17:00] <noimnotninevolt> yup.
[17:01] <erreere> ducasse: strange
[17:02] <Tahr-Poop> erreere, you need to install dnsmasq
[17:03] <Tahr-Poop> erreere, iirc they started using dnsmasq-base+networkmanager from 16.04
[17:04] <erreere> ok yes I saw. It's dnsmasq-base installed. And an apt show dnsmasq-base gave me explanation
[17:04] <erreere> thks to u both
[17:10] <poopie> I am using a real old version of LTS. How do I see what version I am using?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> poopie, lsb_release -a
[17:11] <poopie> BluesKaj, thx that worked
[17:11] <BluesKaj> which LTS ?
[17:11] <RedPenguin> Interesting, after telling it to run a long smart test, it's saying +1 worrying sector
[17:12] <RedPenguin> but it seems the PC is less laggy as the test goes on
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> poopie  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[17:12] <ducasse> RedPenguin: ok, so the disk should be replaced
[17:13] <poopie> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[17:13] <poopie> So I probably should upgrade?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> !trusty | poopie
[17:13] <BluesKaj> !lts
[17:14] <BluesKaj> poopie,^
[17:14] <RedPenguin> oddly I only bought the drive 7/2015 but at least it should still be under warranty
[17:14] <ducasse> RedPenguin: brand?
[17:15] <RedPenguin> WD
[17:15] <Tahr-Poop> hey i'm unable to lock ubuntu 16.10, pressing super+l just blackens the screen with white cursor... after moving the cursor it returns to normal state
[17:15] <BluesKaj> RedPenguin, I had a WD 1TB hdd die after 18mos
[17:15] <ducasse> RedPenguin: *shrug* this happens, they're mechanical after all.
[17:16] <ioria> Tahr-Poop, try   ctrl+alt+l
[17:16] <RedPenguin> the long test doesn't appear to be over yet so smartctl seems to show no bad sectors at all
[17:17] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, same issue i also tried light-locker
[17:17] <ducasse> RedPenguin: ok, let it finish - it will take a while.
[17:17] <ioria> Tahr-Poop, check   unity-control-center keyboard shortcuts System
[17:18] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, lock screen is set to ctrl+alt+l
[17:19] <ioria> Tahr-Poop, gnome-screensaver-command -l
[17:21] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, it turns off display after running that commands but when i move my cursor it returns to normal state and screen starts to flicker for about 2 sec like it does when we turn on crt display
[17:22] <ioria> Tahr-Poop, this is a standard ubuntu install ?
[17:22] <RedPenguin> doesn't look too good it says "Extended Offline" "Completed 90% Read Failure"
[17:23] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, yes, it used to work before
[17:24] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  'before what ' ?  can you tell ?
[17:26] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, day before yesterday i upgraded vaapi,snapd and ubuntu-core-launcher
[17:26] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  and does it works on timeout ?
[17:27] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  maybe disabled password ?
[17:28] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, im using password for login
[17:28] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  for the locker i mean
[17:29] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, journalctl log it always generate first three line whenever i try to lock the screen https://paste.ubuntu.com/23881735/
[17:30] <swaglol> I AM BACK after one years, Hallo facebook!!!
[17:30] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, sorry i coudnt understand your question what do you mean by timeout?
[17:30] <kraut> swaglol, this is not facebook, you are on StudiVZ
[17:31] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  the locker usually is set automatic (after 5 minutes, for example)
[17:31] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  systemsettings -> brightness & lock
[17:31] <swaglol> hahah sorry
[17:31] <swaglol> kraut
[17:33] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, lock toggle is unelectable
[17:33] <olta8> Um, hello?
[17:34] <Tahr-Poop> hi olta8
[17:34] <olta8> I am a noob to this os
[17:34] <TakoNymus14> Hey
[17:34] <olta8> sup
[17:35] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  this, in your log, can be related to your issue 'failed to turn the kbd backlight off''
[17:35] <TakoNymus14> Someone?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> TakoNymus14  ask your ubuntu question
[17:36] <TakoNymus14> Im sper noo and i want to delet a partiotion
[17:36] <TakoNymus14> how can i do it?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> TakoNymus14  boot a live usb/dvd ... run gparted
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> TakoNymus14  backup first
[17:37] <xRob_> Yo guys
[17:37] <TakoNymus14> thanks, you help me
[17:37] <TakoNymus14> :)
[17:37] <TakoNymus14> bye
[17:37] <xRob_> I'm playing a game where I need to use alt as a keybind, but on Ubuntu, it moves the entire window. How would I change this?
[17:38] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  try to install  unity-tweak-tool
[17:39] <xRob_> Is that for me?
[17:40] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, installed it
[17:40] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  go to System (at bottom) -> Security
[17:40] <amicrawler> need help with is chip set Realtek ALC269VB
[17:41] <Tahr-Poop> ioria, thanks for helping desktop lock was ticked
[17:41] <amicrawler> its on a potiplex 980 dell
[17:41] <Tahr-Poop> now its working again
[17:41] <amicrawler> onborad audio
[17:41] <ioria> Tahr-Poop,  good job
[17:42] <amicrawler> can this chip set do stereo
[17:42] <amicrawler> ubuntu 14.05 is my rev
[17:42] <amicrawler> it said its mono
[17:42] <pavan> hi anyone working with IBM BlueMIx Cloude with IOT platform
[17:42] <amicrawler> is this true or is this it
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> amicrawler  don't hit enter too often
[17:43] <amicrawler> im not spaming
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> amicrawler  no, but it's easier to follow and repeat, if you put it all in one line
[17:44] <amicrawler> i c ok
[17:48] <jinxi1> hi
[17:49] <jinxi1> spell check in Writer is not working.
[17:49] <jinxi1> Only english spellcheck works.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> jinxi1  i guess that question is fo #libreoffice
[17:54] <markus_e92> Hi all, if I want to mount a nfs volume (root@ubuntu-client:~# mount -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5 ubuntu-server.home:/daten /daten), I get the error mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
[18:02] <SITM> is there a tool like smartmontools (smartctl) that works with nvme ssd drives like the Samsung 960 EVO ?
[18:02] <tatertots> markus_e92: you know the ip addy of the nfs correct?
[18:02] <SITM> I am trying to get smart info on the drive
[18:03] <markus_e92> tatertos: yes, nfs volumes without krb5 work
[18:08] <Tahr-Poop> SITM, whats wrong with smartctl? it support nvme ssd's
[18:08] <tatertots> markus_e92: looks like you'll need to debug/trouble shoot your krb5 then don't you think
[18:09] <SITM> Tahr-Poop, it doesn't work with the Samsung 960 Pro
[18:09] <SITM> I just get "/dev/nvme0n1: Unable to detect device type
[18:09] <SITM> "
[18:10] <ruben> hi
[18:11] <Tahr-Poop> SITM, try this -> https://github.com/linux-nvme/nvme-cli
[18:11] <SITM> ok, I'll give that a whirl
[18:16] <ducasse> SITM: ubuntu version?
[18:16] <SITM> thanks Tahr-Poop this is a lot better
[18:16] <SITM> Ubuntu 16.04LTS
[18:16] <SITM> the nvme-cli seems to work well
[18:16] <SITM> I just had to install uuid-dev to get it to build
[18:18] <matti> :D
[18:18] <tatertots> nvme-cli should be available in the ubuntu repositories
[18:18] <tatertots> which would auto take care of any dependency
[18:19] <tatertots> but you already have it now so ...kinda water under the bridge
[18:19] <SITM> good to know for the future though
[18:21] <SITM> 430,000 4k random IOPS ... wow
[18:21] <SITM> this really is the future
[18:25] <Tokke> :wc
[18:25] <Tokke> oops ignore
[18:28] <raspi_noob> hello all, anyone know where I can find useful info regarding raspberry pi?
[18:28] <ducasse> !alis | raspi_noob
[18:29] <raspi_noob> other than the raspberrypi.org site
[18:30] <tambu> Hey guys, upgraded to 16.04 and tried installing the nvidia proprietary drivers, but on reboot I get the graphical login and when I logged in I got the nvidia logo then flicker flicker and back at login page. So I uninstalled the nvidia drivers, and reinstalled the xorg-nouvea but now it doesn't appear to load even the login page. Is there a good place to check for log errors?
[18:31] <ducasse> tambu: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[18:31] <tambu> ducasse NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-358.16.run
[18:31] <tambu> it's old I know.. I installed awhile back and the login problem but as it's mostly just a server I didn't bother trying to fix until now :P
[18:32] <ducasse> tambu: yeah, that's likely to break things. you should have used the repos.
[18:32] <tambu> I was thinking I should try and.. get just "default video" to work and then try the repos
[18:33] <tambu> is there a good way to just wipe and reinstall xorg from scratch?
[18:33] <tambu> ducasse: this is what I tried to get where I am. sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[18:33] <Bashing-om> tambu: Find the .run file for the uninstall operation: - sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" - .
[18:34] <ducasse> tambu: it has probably blacklisted nouveau - check the files under /etc/modprobe.d
[18:34] <tambu> Bashing-om: Sorry I should have mentioned I did already use the --uninstall option on that.. it partially worked but did note some errors about missing files, if I run the installer again now it says No Nvidia driver found
[18:35] <tambu> ducasse: yes.. I see several mentions of blacklists. http://pastebin.com/rp0QrdSt
[18:36] <FrogCast> what is a Makefile.linux?
[18:36] <ducasse> tambu: see if one of them blacklists nouveau
[18:36] <Bashing-om> tambu: ducasse This then may get complicated . What is presently installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[18:37] <ducasse> tambu: nvidia-352_hybrid.conf - move it.
[18:37] <tambu> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/Hiv6X7zT
[18:38] <tambu> ducasse: I've moved the file to my HOME, is there a way to "force the Xorg" to restart I waas rebooting but as this is my server I will loose internet
[18:38] <moultonl> wns these doesn't exit on cright?
[18:38] <ducasse> tambu: sudo systemctl restart lightdm
[18:38] <ducasse> tambu: but you may need to reboot
[18:39] <tambu> ducasse: well the screen it's flashing displaying so it's trying to load but now it seems to be stuck in a loop
[18:39] <moultonl> Bah-- That didn't come out right. I've got two boxes on a sales counter, cleft and cright. On cleft, ran sshfs cright@cright:/home/cright/cleft /remote
[18:39] <tambu> ducasse should I also remove the blacklist-nouveau file?
[18:39] <moultonl> and now I'm running, on cleft,  rsync -avz /home/cleft /remote
[18:40] <moultonl> But getting some errors. Is that becuase the cleft group on cleft doesn't exist on cright?
[18:40] <ducasse> tambu: yes
[18:40] <Bashing-om> tambu: ducasse clean things up from the 'rc' state ? maybe run ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' paying attention to what is to be purged .
[18:40] <tambu> Bashing-om: thanks i will try that, plus ducasse I will reboot as well it will disconnect me for a minute or so. Thank you for the help :)
[18:41] <moultonl> I'm getting a buch of permission denied, then some goes, then it hangs
[18:41] <tambu> Bashing-om: hrm actually that appears to want to purge an awful lot includeint my linux-image-extra files.. perhaps I should just purge the nvidia-* ones?
[18:42] <tambu> Bashing-om: did you perhaps mean to use this command instead: dpkg --list|grep -i nvidia |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3
[18:42] <raspi_noob> I'm very new to IRC. How do I obtain a list of channels?
[18:43] <k1l> raspi_noob: use alis:
[18:43] <k1l> !alis | raspi_noob
[18:43] <ducasse> tambu: there might be residuals from other packages too, no harm in killing them. rc = residual config
[18:43] <Bashing-om> tambu: I rarely have seen dpkg make a mistake in what it will remove . But it so pay to err on the side of caution .
[18:44] <raspi_noob> !alis
[18:44] <k1l> raspi_noob: read the bots message (ubottu)
[18:45] <tambu> Bashing-om: my apologies I see now the rc^ was grabbing only nvidia packages.. ok well Tally Ho! .. hopefully I'll survive
[18:45] <k1l> raspi_noob: and there is #raspberrypi channel
[18:46] <Bashing-om> tambu: K; clear the clutter so we see the forrest for the tree .
[18:46] <tambu> Bashing-om:  oooh very nice Bashing, I did that and did a systemctl restart lightdm that ducasse suggested and I have the loging.. it's in like 800x600 or something stupid but this is a big improvement
[18:47] <tambu> ducasse Bashing-om: Should I try the nvidia repo method u mentioned. lemme google for a page
[18:47] <ducasse> !nvidia | tambu
[18:48] <k1l> what card is it?
[18:48] <tambu> chuckle.. actually just tried to login via the graphic login and now it's as soon as I login I see a message box "system program problem detected" and it resets back to the login screen
[18:51] <Bashing-om> tambu: ducasse As k1l advises I too thionk we need to know the hardware we are targetting . what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[18:51] <k1l> because if its not a 1000 nvidia card, the very new ones. the official repo nvidia drivers should be handling that quite well.
[18:51] <tambu> Bashing-om ducasse k1l Sorry guys should have said Nvidia 580M -- I'm doing an apt-get install nvidia-367 at the moment
[18:52] <k1l> first make sure to remove all of that manual nvidia stuff so its not making any more issues
[18:52] <Bashing-om> tambu: Might be best to make sure of a clean slate ' sudo apt purge nvidia ' .
[18:52] <tambu> k1l: I think Bashing-om dpkg --purge command did that for me.
[18:53] <k1l> sudo apt purge nvidia*
[18:53] <ducasse> tambu: that was only for rc packages iirc
[18:53] <tambu> Bashing-om ducasse k1l Ok after the nvidia-367 (yes Bashing I did a apt-get purge on nvidia) I restarted lightdm and the graphical login page loaded and is in a normal resolution. Let me try a login.
[18:53] <Bashing-om> tambu: That ^ command only removes config files that dpkg thinks it is safe to remove .
[18:56] <tambu> Bashing-om ducasse k1l Ok so now I can login and I get a desktop background but there .. I don't have any menus or bars or anything I'd expect to see it's like only the desktop loaded :) much improved though thanks guys
[18:56] <Bashing-om> tambu: 367 vrsion "should" work ; See http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us . nVidia shows several alternatives .
[18:57] <k1l> tambu: i suggest a reboot. the on reboot see if things change. try the guest account or another user to login, too, to see if its a user issue or a system wide issue
[18:57] <tambu> k1l excellent idea. ok I will reboot try a different user login. I'll disconnect for a minute or so.
[19:01] <tambu> k1l It appears the reboot didn't do much when i login as my normal user it has the same result just desktop, but another user.. I get the normal desktop, menu bar and the sidebar thing.. so clearly there is something in my user profile it doesn't like
[19:02] <tambu> k1l I don't really have anything I care about in my user settings, so if there is a way to reset to defaults for Xwindows for the user I could try that
[19:03] <ioria> tambu, check   cat ~/.xsession-errors  or you might backup .config and .compiz folders
[19:04] <tambu> ioria: http://pastebin.com/s5efAb35 for xsession-errors
[19:04] <k1l> tambu: rename the .config folder in your users home. that should make it work agan
[19:04] <k1l> *again
[19:05] <tambu> k1l: did a mv .config .old_config and then logged in again.. still have desktop but this time I got a "software update" notification box..
[19:06] <tambu> is there a hot-key to log out of Xwindows? the only way I know to get out is to restart lightdm and I'm not sure that is logging me out
[19:06] <k1l> does the desktop work now?
[19:07] <tambu> k1l no it's still just desktop, no menubar or sidebar unusable.
[19:08] <ioria> tambu, gnome-session-quit  works ?
[19:08] <k1l> tambu: try a "cd .cache && mv configcompiz-1 configcompiz-1_oops"  then relogin
[19:09] <tambu> ioria it doesn't from a remote ssh session, i did a rightclick open termin and ran it there but nothing happened
[19:10] <Bashing-om> tambu: ^ or maybe like ' gnome-session-quit --logout ' ?? Mind ya I am not unity savvy .
[19:10] <tambu> k1l Woot.. the move of the .configcompiz-1 folder worked.. I now appear to have a normal desktop
[19:10] <k1l> "gnome-session-quit --no-prompt" should work for log out
[19:11] <tambu> Bashing-om: ioria  ducasse  k1l Thank you everyone for the help this was awesome!! :)
[19:11] <ioria> tambu,  good
[19:11] <tambu> Bashing-om I can't say I love unity much either it seems to friendly to me.. just need something working. what are the other popular options if I can ask?
[19:12] <k1l> tambu: there is gnome3-shell, xubuntu(xfce), kubuntu(kde), lubuntu(lxde), mate, cinnamon, budgie, a bunch of tiling wms,...
[19:12] <Bashing-om> tambu: I must confess I am partial to xfce4 .
[19:13] <tambu> Bashing-om Chuckle nothing wrong with that.. :)
[19:15] <ioria> tambu,  can you reboot and paste again xsession-errors ?
[19:18] <tambu> ioria: the only one I'm getting is openConnection: connect No such file or directory // cannot connect to brltty at :0 it doesn't appear to be a problem though. not sure what it is
[19:19] <ioria> tambu,  do you have some files in your  ~ owned by root ? find ~/ -not -user $USER
[19:22] <raj_iiitg> #drupal-support
[19:22] <tambu> ioria I did have some hidden files owned by root.. I did a chown -r tambu:tambu /home/tambu but the error in .xsession-errors still persists
[19:23] <raj_iiitg> I want contribute into your Gsoc project
[19:23] <ioria> tambu,  .. is /home  don't touch it :þ
[19:24] <DJones> raj_iiitg: You probably want to join their channel first
[19:24] <tambu> ioria lol I forgot about that u are right.. i just chown'd it. I assume it's root:root normally?
[19:24] <ioria> tambu,  yes
[19:25] <raj_iiitg> Djones : what is the channel name
[19:25] <tambu> what is openConnection and britty?
[19:26] <raj_iiitg> Here Did anyone participated in Gsoc?
[19:26] <kang00> What's gsoc
[19:26] <raj_iiitg> if anyone did just let me know
[19:26] <raj_iiitg> Google Summer Of Code program
[19:27] <DJones> raj_iiitg: I don't know, you listed #drupal-support, maybe try "/join #drupal-support" that may get you where you want to gp
[19:27] <ioria> tambu,  can you paste sudo lshw -c Video
[19:27] <raj_iiitg> Ok Thanks Djones
[19:28] <tambu> ioria: http://pastebin.com/Tr3iuprf
[19:28] <ioria> tambu,  you reinstalled nvidia ?
[19:28] <tambu> ioria yes via the repos it is working nicely from what I can see.. well based on the resolution anyway
[19:29] <Hanumaan> Was trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 through Teamviewer went to great extent I suppose and then send aborting ... and completed with some errors. .. If I reboot will it go to 16.04 or 14.04? how to know upgrade status?
[19:29] <ioria> tambu,  i see ... it'a a laptop ?
[19:29] <tambu> ioria yes
[19:29] <ioria> tambu,  i don't see intel ...
[19:30] <ioria> tambu,  hybrid system ?
[19:30] <ducasse> tambu: brltty is a braille thingy, i assume you don't need that.
[19:31] <raj_iiitg> Hey,My libreoffice impress just showing on slite
[19:31] <tambu> ioria hybrid?
[19:31] <ioria> tambu,  intel / nvidia
[19:31] <tambu> ducasse: hopefully I won't ever need that.. .. how exactly does Braille work on a laptop
[19:31] <tambu> ioria possibly not sure
[19:32] <ioria> tambu,  ok,   uname -r
[19:32] <nightmare_> hi
[19:32] <tambu> ioria 4.4.0-59-generic
[19:32] <raj_iiitg> Hey,please anyone solve this
[19:32] <ducasse> tambu: it's for braille displays
[19:32] <ioria> tambu,  ok
[19:32] <tambu> ducasse ah ok that makes sense
[19:32] <k1l> raj_iiitg: this channel is for ubuntu support.
[19:33] <raj_iiitg> k1l: i want help about ubuntu
[19:34] <raj_iiitg> Ubuntu LibreOffice Impress reader
[19:35] <kang00> Which Linux distribution use Windows bootloader?
[19:35] <DJones> kang00: None
[19:35] <k1l> kang00: none. ubuntu ships grub as bootloader which can boot windows, too
[19:35] <raj_iiitg> I am using ubuntu 16.04
[19:35] <DJones> kang00: Ubuntu uses Grub
[19:36] <tambu> ioria: I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1579531  ... I think it's just a harmless issues I'm gonna ignore it it's not causing any issues I can see
[19:37] <k1l> raj_iiitg: what issue do you have?
[19:37] <ioria> tambu,  sure
[19:37] <tambu> ioria Thank u though for taking the time :)
[19:37] <ioria> tambu,  no problem, any time
[19:37] <junke1990> hey guys
[19:37] <junke1990> anyone got a sec to help me out with a disk issue?
[19:37] <raj_iiitg> k1l: my LibreOffice impress does not showing next slide
[19:38] <k1l> raj_iiitg: is there a slide after that one?
[19:38] <junke1990> my 3TB external drive doesn't work when connected via SATA directly on ubuntu 16.04 but does work and has been working for quite some time on ubuntu 14.04 via USB
[19:39] <tatertots> junke1990: is the drive connected to the system you are chatting on right now?
[19:39] <junke1990> yeah
[19:40] <junke1990> on this system I can see the drive, even with cfidsk
[19:40] <junke1990> *cfdisk
[19:40] <raj_iiitg> k1l:yes
[19:40] <junke1990> without any problem but on my other system I get an error
[19:40] <junke1990> "The size of this disk is 2,7 TiB (3000559428096 bytes). DOS partition table format can not be used on drives for volumes larger than 2199023255040 bytes for 512-byte sectors. Use GUID partition table format (GPT)."
[19:40] <tatertots> junke1990: is it connected via sata on ubuntu 16.x?
[19:40] <raj_iiitg> k1l: actually when i start from first slide i not goes to nest slide
[19:40] <junke1990> tatertots: yes on the other one it is, current on this one it is connected via USB
[19:41] <tatertots> junke1990: might help to actually trouble shoot the effected system with the drive in it
[19:41] <junke1990> how?
[19:42] <junke1990> I did notice that the drive didn't get a UUID  for the patition that is on there
[19:43] <tatertots> junke1990: trouble shoot the problematic system, then come here using the problematic system to investigate further
[19:44] <junke1990> tatertots: what do I troubleshoot?
[19:44] <junke1990> what do I look for?
[19:44] <tatertots> junke1990: you don't just reproduce the issue while chatting here.......
[19:45] <tatertots> junke1990: nevermind
[19:45] <junke1990> My question is, what do I do to troubleshoot? fdisk and cfdisk error out
[19:45] <junke1990> and don't show the partition
[19:45] <k1l> raj_iiitg: i cant understand if that is a program issue or a user issue, to be honest
[19:46] <ducasse> junke1990: it is now connected to a box with 14.04 via usb?
[19:46] <tatertots> junke1990: there's nothing to trouble shoot now, you have placed the drive in a system in which there is no problem...nothing to do
[19:46] <fenix_peregrino> Hellow guys, I just bouthg the sapphire r7 240 and I as wondering if someone could help to install the drivers
[19:46] <fenix_peregrino> ?
[19:46] <junke1990> ducasse: yes, but when I put in in the 16.04 via sata it bugs out
[19:46] <raj_iiitg> k1l: its ok
[19:47] <junke1990> building it back in atm
[19:47] <ducasse> junke1990: with the message above, yes. the problem is that the drive has 512 byte physical sectors, but over usb these are probably mapped to 4096.
[19:47] <excelsiora> so does Ubuntu run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade daily?
[19:48] <junke1990> ducasse: that would suck big time
[19:48] <k1l> excelsiora: no, ubuntu doesnt run it at all. the gui updater got a routine to check for updates
[19:48] <excelsiora> is there something that runs daily that would override a sudo checkinstall?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> fenix_peregrino: If you purged the old drivers prior to installing the new card . there is nothing else to do in 16.04+
[19:49] <ducasse> junke1990: with 512 byte sectors you need a gpt partition table for that size drive, not true with 4096.
[19:49] <k1l> excelsiora: use apt pinning or apt mark hold to keep packages at one state
[19:49] <junke1990> ducasse: crap... I have this issue with 3 3TB drives...
[19:50] <excelsiora> ok, - so what is it that is overriding my checkinstalled program?
[19:50] <ducasse> junke1990: i would probably clean them out, write gpt tables and see if that works better. it should.
[19:50] <junke1990> sooo I'll have to copy all the data on it to other drives and reformat the disks
[19:51] <junke1990> fuck.... ~ 7.5TB of data
[19:51] <ikonia> junke1990: tone down the language please
[19:51] <kk4ewt> junke1990,  so are those drives in a raid ?
[19:52] <junke1990> kk4ewt: nope
[19:52] <junke1990> ikonia: my bad, but that term does apply to my current situation :P
[19:53] <fenix_peregrino> yes?
[19:53] <excelsiora> k1l: aren't user installed programs supposed to be automatically marked by checkinstall?
[19:53] <ducasse> junke1990: in theory, gdisk can just convert the table type without data loss, but do you want to chance it without taking a backup?
[19:54] <k1l> excelsiora: i dont really get what the setup is there
[19:54] <junke1990> ducasse: no, besides wouldn't that take longer than simply copy paste?
[19:54] <k1l> excelsiora: usually apt wants to install packages with higher version number if there is no different pinning
[19:54] <junke1990> ducasse: no, besides wouldn't that take longer than simply copy paste?
[19:54] <junke1990> my bad
[19:55] <SynfulAck> Whats a toolset i can use to view storage stats like transfer speed?
[19:56] <excelsiora> I'm giving it 26.0.50.soemthign
[19:56] <ducasse> junke1990: copy/paste kind of is a backup. i've converted tables without data loss before, but i always had recent backups.
[19:56] <ducasse> junke1990: conversion itself takes seconds, if that.
[19:56] <Mitchell92> Hello. What would be more lightweight? LXDE or XFCE? About to load ubuntu on my ultrabook, and trying to run what would be lightweight for best performance and mainly battery life.
[19:57] <excelsiora> k1l: It keeps giving me emacs24 no more than 24 hours later.
[19:57] <junke1990> ducasse: really? seconds? for dos to gpt?
[19:57] <k1l> excelsiora: can you show a "apt-cache policy packagename" in a pastebin?
[19:59] <ducasse> junke1990: yep, only the actual partition table is rewritten. but as i said, i would not do it with data i couldn't lose and hadn't backed up.
[20:00] <excelsiora> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23882531/
[20:00] <ducasse> junke1990: you run 'gdisk /dev/whatever', it asks if you want to convert. say yes, select write, exit. done.
[20:01] <rifter> Mitchell92, I am really enjoying using lubuntu. It seems that even though I am using mostly the same programs I was on xubuntu, my performance on this severely resource-constrained machine is loads better. Unfortunately as for yourlxde/xfce question I .. hmm.. I guess I am using LXDE after all so I guess that is probably lighter.
[20:01] <k1l> excelsiora: if you want to keep this state you need to use apt mark hold or apt pinning
[20:01] <rifter> yeah .. LXDE, and it *is* lighter
[20:02] <excelsiora> k1l: *WHY*?
[20:02] <excelsiora> why is ubuntu overwriting my emacs?
[20:02] <Mitchell92> rifter, machine has resources I just want to maximize battery life and performance, HP Pavilion x360, I have 8GB RAM, a SSD, and a dual core 6th gen i5.
[20:03] <rifter> excelsiora, because when you do apt-get upgrade it updates to t he latest one
[20:03] <Mitchell92> i use multiple machines, windows, mac, linux, all depending on the task at hand
[20:03] <zub> Hi. I wonder what is the state of Ubuntu SDK. With the changes from click to snappy - is the Ubuntu SDK still being worked on?
[20:03] <excelsiora> 24 is not the latest one.
[20:03] <k1l> excelsiora: look at the pin priority.
[20:03] <excelsiora> how?
[20:03] <k1l> excelsiora: your package has 100, the repo got 500
[20:03] <fenix_peregrino> Guys I have to hard drives and SDD and a HDD. How can I make my system use HDD as an internal storage?
[20:03] <rifter> Mitchell92, well, anyway the difference is more obvious in my case, then, and lubuntu uses LXDE because it is lighter
[20:04] <excelsiora> ok, how do I stop that?
[20:04] <rifter> excelsiora, like kil said, use pinning
[20:04] <rifter> pinning makes the version of a package stay the same
[20:04] <k1l> excelsiora: again: use apt-mark hold
[20:04] <rifter> yeah
[20:04] <rifter> listen to kil
[20:04] <excelsiora> Why is the repo setting a higher priority?
[20:05] <excelsiora> it's not the version, it's a priority.
[20:05] <Mitchell92> thanks rifter , I usually take my macbook off to coffee shops, just thinking it would be nice to mix it up. ultrabook has been sitting in its bag for a while now, was going to do a clean install of windows or load linux up.
[20:05] <excelsiora> why?
[20:05] <ducasse> Mitchell92: in your case you won't notice much difference between the two, and xfce is more of an integrated environment.
[20:05] <k1l> excelsiora: i answered that.
[20:05] <Mitchell92> ahh ok, thanks.
[20:06] <rifter> Mitchell92, yeah. I am planning on using lubuntu on my monster gaming machine as well, just because it is my general philosophy to use as few resources as possible for the desktop and all so I have more for the stuff I am actually actively using
[20:06] <k1l> excelsiora: look at here fo how to use pinning or in your case apt-mark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[20:06] <ikonia> rifter: you understand that no linux distro uses that much resource
[20:06] <rifter> ducasse, maybe, but the question was which is lighter
[20:06] <ikonia> rifter: and you'll probably end up wasting your resources on disk cache
[20:08] <ducasse> rifter: the difference is so minimal on a system like that he won't ever notice, so go for the better desktop was what i was saying.
[20:08] <rifter> ikonia, I kind of disagree, but that is relative I guess. "much resource" is a moving target. These days a program that uses 5 GB of disk and 1GB of RAM might be considered "not much resource."  But when you have less than that, it makes a difference
[20:08] <rifter> ducasse, I know what you're saying, I'm just answering his direct question of which is lighter
[20:09] <ikonia> rifter: what program is using a gig of ram ?
[20:09] <junke1990> ducasse: any clue about the risks?
[20:09] <ikonia> rifter: how much ram does your "monter" machine have ?
[20:09] <rifter> these days, ikonia a web browser can easily use that much or more
[20:10] <Pyro3d> Is there any way to view the IP stack processing?
[20:10] <ikonia> rifter: no, really,
[20:10] <ikonia> rifter: its totally up to you what you do, but it seems silly to not use the resources you have and have it fall back to disk cache
[20:10] <ikonia> Pyro3d: "processing"
[20:10] <rifter> and you'd probably not think my machine was a monster because it was slightly behind the curve 2 years ago. This one, though, was low end 11 years ago
[20:11] <rifter> ikonia, what does disk cache have to do with this?
[20:11] <ikonia> rifter: if you don't use ram, it gets allocated to disk cache
[20:12] <ducasse> junke1990: yes, i know they exist. can't tell you more than that, other than that i've never had problems. i've only done it a few times, though.
[20:12] <Pyro3d> ikonia: I'm running ubuntu on a vm, I'm pinging it from the vm host, no response, but I can see the packets ingress on the ethernet interfaces. The packet looks formatted OK, so I don't know where it's getting stuck.
[20:13] <ikonia> Pyro3d: how are you monitoring the interface
[20:13] <ikonia> (interface on the VM I assume)
[20:13] <Pyro3d> ikonia: tcpdump at the moment
[20:13] <rifter> ikonia, okay, but it gets reallocated to stuff you start up, though. And that assumes you have more ram anyhow :)
[20:13] <fenix_peregrino> guys can someone tell me how do recognize my internal HDD drive?
[20:13] <ikonia> rifter: yes, you said it was monster, so I assumed you'd have 4+GB of ram, which means you could easy run a full ubuntu install and it would still use ram for cache
[20:13] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so that should be enough to see what's going on
[20:13] <junke1990> ducasse: "Warning! Secondary partition table overlaps the last partition by
[20:13] <rifter> ikonia, I think you are misunderstanding. I am saying use less RAM etc for the desktop so you have more ram for other things. That lets you do more with those other things
[20:14] <junke1990> 5 blocks!
[20:14] <ikonia> rifter: how much ram does this big machine have ?
[20:14] <junke1990> ducasse: if I shrink the partition would that prevent taht?
[20:14] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah, that's what I thought. I can see the packets come on. The mac addresses are correct, the ips are correct, so I'm stumped as to why the vm isn't responding.
[20:15] <ikonia> Pyro3d: can the VM ping out ?
[20:15] <rifter> it doesn't matter if I had 100GB of RAM. what I said is still true. And that other machine has 8GB. I think. It's not running right now because it needs a new drive. This machine has less than 1GB available and it meant I couldn't even run two browsers and a chat client at the same time before.
[20:15] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah, that's the weird thing. Other hosts on the network can reach it fine.
[20:16] <ikonia> rifter: yes, you said about the low spec machine, but you then said you'd do the same on the higher spec one
[20:16] <Pyro3d> I'm not seeing any mac conflicts on the interfaces, unless there's other interfaces not shown in an ifconfig -a
[20:16] <ikonia> if other hosts can ping it just fine
[20:16] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so that suggest somehting like it has no return route to the host that it's being pinged from
[20:16] <rifter> it's just a general philosophy. I don't cae about the desktop software, I care about the apps I am actively using. So I make those resources available for the latter. It's why I used FVWM for ages
[20:16] <Pyro3d> ikonia: the vm host is in the same broadcast domain
[20:16] <ikonia> rifter: you'll miss out on a lot of useful integration stuff, but it's up to you
[20:17] <rifter> it's not useful to me
[20:17] <ikonia> Pyro3d: broadcast domain ??
[20:17] <ikonia> rifter: totally up to you what you do
[20:17] <Pyro3d> ikonia: network area. /24. etc.
[20:17] <rifter> if it was, I would choose to use those resources for that, giving me fewer resources for other things on the machine
[20:17] <ducasse> junke1990: probably. i don't remember how much free space there should be at the end, though, but there is a fixed number.
[20:17] <ikonia> Pyro3d: do you mean "it's in the same subnet"
[20:18] <Pyro3d> ikonia: yes.
[20:18] <rifter> totally see your point, though ;)
[20:18] <junke1990> ducasse: fixed the warning
[20:18] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so the is it 2 VM's pinging each other, or is it the host pinging the vm
[20:19] <Pyro3d> ikonia: host pinging the vm. VM's connection is a bridge to a lagg interface on the host. Packets are coming across that bridge fine, and I can see the packets from the host ingress on the enp interface on the ubuntu vm.
[20:20] <ikonia> Pyro3d: what's a "lagg" interface ?
[20:20] <Pyro3d> ikonia: aggregate link. Cisco calls them port channel, or they used to.
[20:20] <ikonia> Pyro3d: LACP link ?
[20:20] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yes
[20:21] <ikonia> how did you make an LACP link on a virtual network ?
[20:21] <cybex_> hi all, I have plexmediaserver installed. when running "sudo update-rc.d plexmediaserver default" it responds with the help menu, implying an incorrect option. any thoughts on this?
[20:21] <fenix_peregrino> guys I just bought and HDD drive and I want to use it as internal storage devide
[20:21] <fenix_peregrino> *device
[20:21] <fenix_peregrino> how can I do this?
[20:22] <Pyro3d> ikonia: This is a LACP interface on the physical. The host has a virtual bridge adapter connected to the LACP interface.
[20:22] <ikonia> Pyro3d: but it won't use that to talk from host->bm
[20:22] <ikonia> vm
[20:22] <cybex_> fenix_peregrino: you can just plug it in and ...well use it
[20:22] <ikonia> or shouldn't do
[20:22] <ikonia> as it should be not touching the physical interface
[20:22] <Pyro3d> Yep
[20:22] <ikonia> only the virtual interface
[20:23] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: is it connected yet?
[20:23] <liske1> Hi
[20:23] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: yes is connected
[20:23] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so on the VM is the route back to the host IP a.) set b.) set on the right interface
[20:24] <junke1990> ducasse: i don't see the option to convert it
[20:24] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: just partition and format it with gparted, then set it to automount with the gnome disk util.
[20:24] <Pyro3d> ikonia: the route back to the subnet the host belongs to is present and on the correct interface
[20:24] <junke1990> ducasse: would that simply be fixed by writing to the disk?
[20:24] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so what happens if the VM pings the host
[20:24] <ducasse> junke1990: when starting gdisk it should say that's what it's going to do.
[20:25] <liske1> How I can use firewalld in ansible in Ubuntu ? Beacause when I install this on server (sudo apt-get install firewalld), then ansible return mi error - "firewalld and its python 2 module are required for this module"
[20:25] <ikonia> liske1: ubuntu doesn't use firewalld by default
[20:25] <junke1990> ducasse: yes but at the point where I want to write it to the disk it says "About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS!!"
[20:25] <ikonia> liske1: I don't think it's integrated into systemd either in ubuntu
[20:25] <junke1990> ducasse: this scares me...
[20:25] <Pyro3d> ikonia: I see icmp replys from the host back on the interface, but the vm isn't recognizing them.
[20:26] <ikonia> Pyro3d: the vm isn't recognizing them ?
[20:26] <ikonia> Pyro3d: does the vm interface see them
[20:26] <Pyro3d> ikonia: That's my best guess. And yes.
[20:26] <liske1> ikonia: I install this and when I show systemctl status firewalld then return: Active
[20:26] <ducasse> junke1990: i can't remember if i got that, sorry. i wouldn't risk it, as i've already said a dozen times.
[20:26] <ikonia> liske1: right, thats just s systemd unit
[20:26] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: the thins ithat i did that and didnt work. Probably I did it on an incorrect manner
[20:26] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: what are the steps?
[20:27] <ikonia> Pyro3d: Hmmmm, let me have a think for a moment,
[20:27] <liske1> ikonia: thanks :)
[20:27] <junke1990> ducasse: thanks, I'm going to make a backup and wait for that to finish
[20:28] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: I cant write anything on the disk. I cant create folders, paste files etc
[20:28] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: select the disk, make partition(s), format it/them as ext4 (for use with linux)
[20:28] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: run gparted with gksudo
[20:30] <Tahr-Poop> junke1990, backup partition table before converting it: sfdisk -d /dev/sdX > backup.txt
[20:31] <junke1990> Thar-Poop: would that mean that If it fails I can put back the dos table?
[20:31] <ducasse> junke1990: i'm pretty sure mine just said "converting mbr to gpt, write gpt with protective mbr (y/n)?", but i don't know what the difference was from your scenario.
[20:31] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says that im not the owner :( How can I fix this?
[20:31] <junke1990> I'm reading online that I have to have a 1 mb room before and after the partition
[20:32] <Tahr-Poop> junke1990, yep http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html < read this before doing anything
[20:32] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: what says you're not the owner? when doing what? 'it' is not very specific.
[20:33] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says that im not the owner so I cannot change the permissions
[20:33] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it doesnt let me write anything on the disk :(
[20:33] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, ls -l /media/$USER
[20:34] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: what is 'it'?
[20:34] <ikonia> Pyro3d: on the vm - does the host appear in the arp table ?
[20:34] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yep. arp is fine
[20:34] <ikonia> and vice-a-versa ?
[20:34] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says
[20:34] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: drwx------ 3 user user 4096 ene 28 17:30 HDD
[20:35] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: also says "total 4"
[20:35] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah. I also checked for mac conflicts on the interfaces, as I encounted the same issue with a pair of juniper srx chassis cluster last week, but I didn't see any interfaces that had the same macs.
[20:35] <ikonia> Pyro3d: well you sholdn't as there is only the host and the vm in play here
[20:35] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, can you paste  sudo parted -l ?
[20:36] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah, but I didn't think I should've with the srxs as well.
[20:36] <ikonia> Pyro3d: the host can't allocate the same mac to a vm
[20:36] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says http://pastebin.com/teELGmBg
[20:37] <Pyro3d> ikonia: It didn't so that's good.
[20:38] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <jdm> ?
[20:38] <ikonia> Pyro3d: in the VM when the ping goes out do you see the ACK ?
[20:38] <ikonia> or do you just see the packet response
[20:39] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: http://termbin.com/qo7l
[20:39] <rifter> ok, so, now I have a question for myself again. I have lubuntu 16.10 and want to install 32 bit libraries on it. The process should be the same on it as for ubuntu. I want to know if one of you knows how to do that or can point me to a resource for the process
[20:39] <Pyro3d> ikonia: The ack? I see the icmpecho request and the echo reply.
[20:40] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so from what you're telling me my gut is telling me that for some reason traffic is going out/via the physical interface
[20:40] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: what is the problem :(?
[20:40] <ikonia> Pyro3d: that shouldn't matter itself, however depending on how your doing the forwarding (if it's going via the physical interface) you could be getting a mangled reponse
[20:41] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, so you have two disks: sda for storage i guess (gpt),  and sdb (encrypted) for the os ?
[20:41] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: yes
[20:41] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:42] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: http://termbin.com/1geq
[20:43] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Doesn't look like the case. I don't see those packets outbound on the physical interface. I'm going to check with wireshark for damaged frames though.
[20:43] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  did you edit /etc/fstab ?
[20:43] <ikonia> Pyro3d: what about inbound ?
[20:44] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: nop, I just created a partition named hDD nothing more
[20:44] <ikonia> Pyro3d: that could be the problem, out via a different interface than the response can often make a mangled response
[20:44] <Pyro3d> ikonia: no icmp from the vm on the physical interface is present when pingning the host
[20:45] <ikonia> Pyro3d: does anything other than ping work ?
[20:45] <Pyro3d> ikonia: nothing works
[20:45] <Pyro3d> except arp
[20:45] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  what's on the HDD right now ? can you reformat with msdos PT ?
[20:45] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: its completly empyt is brand new
[20:46] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: I can do anything with gparted; the thing is I cannot write anything on the disk
[20:47] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: the disk is mounted, and appears to be owned by you. what does 'touch /media/$USER/HDD/test' say?
[20:48] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: nothing
[20:48] <fenix_peregrino> the terminal doesnt tell me anything
[20:48] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: ok, then your user can write to it. try accessing it from your file manager.
[20:49] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: im the user
[20:49] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  ls /media/$USER/HDD/test     what it says ?
[20:49] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: it seemed it worked :)
[20:49] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: now I can write things on it
[20:49] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  good
[20:50] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: this computer is new and I installed a SAPPHIRE READEON R7 240. How can I install the drivers?
[20:50] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  no way , the last supported by amd is 260
[20:51] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[20:51] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Wireshark isn't throwing any issues with the packets, and I can't see anything wrong with them myself.
[20:51] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  you stay with the opensource
[20:51] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: so I wont be able to use it?
[20:51] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  you use radeon ... or wait for something coming up
[20:52] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: what do you mean? I have an integrated video card and also the Sapphire Radeon r7 240
[20:53] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  oh.. lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[20:54] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2 | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:54] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: http://pastebin.com/ELqvZwh3
[20:55] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, it's a desktop, right ?
[20:55] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: yes
[20:55] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, it's ok, you're using radeon, the opensource driver
[20:55] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: so am I using both cards?
[20:56] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, nope
[20:56] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: which one?
[20:56] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, the amd
[20:56] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: not sapphire?
[20:56] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, sapphire  is the amd :)
[20:57] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: lol sorry for my ignorance. I was worried that I have bought a graphic card and i wasnt going to be able to use it :)
[20:58] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, on a desktop plugging the pci-e disables automatically the integrated
[20:58] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: perfect!
[20:58] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, whould be fun make them works with different monitors  ·þ
[20:59] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: yes that will be awesome :).
[20:59] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, yup
[20:59] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: so there is no way to do this?
[21:00] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, i guess , but never had the time
[21:00] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: can you recommend a good forum to investigate?
[21:01] <Dave114> Any idea if I create an install disk using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick if I should be able to view that as a normal disk in OS X?
[21:01] <Dave114> i.e. since the system is failing to boot the ubuntu disk I'm wondering if I might have failed to properly create it
[21:02] <Pyro3d> Dave114: You won't be able to mount it without fuse.
[21:02] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, nope, sorry
[21:02] <Dave114> Pyro3d: isn't FUSE a Linux filesystem driver?  Trying to figure out if I should be able to view files on the ubuntu usb key in OS X where I don't think (though I could be wrong) that FUSE even exists
[21:03] <adalbert> Q, how come xrdp is very slow and x11vnc is lots faster ??
[21:03] <Pyro3d> Dave114: fuse isn't dependent to linux. It runs on BSDs and OSX as well.
[21:03] <Dave114> Any idea how I can test my startup disk?  I was able to verify the SHAsum of the file I downloaded - know if I can do the same with a disk device?
[21:04] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: ok, thank you very much for the help!!!1
[21:04] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, no proble, good luck
[21:04] <Pyro3d> Dave114: test how? What are you looking for?
[21:04] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: :)
[21:05] <Dave114> Pyro3d: the system failed to boot (beyond the initial ubuntu bootloader) ... so trying to figure out why that's the case
[21:06] <Pyro3d> Dave114: I guess you could pull the disk with dd and pipe it to openssl, but I don't know if that'll be consistent with the iso.
[21:07] <Dave114> at the moment I'm trying to use dd to copy the disk back to a file ... then will try to compare that file with the original file I tried to copy to the disk
[21:07] <Pyro3d> Dave114: What happened when you tried to boot?
[21:08] <ducasse> Dave114: is this the regular ubuntu desktop iso?
[21:09] <Dave114> Pyro3d: bootloader shows (after originally briefly flashing a message that says something like "/boot not found").  Once I select any item from the grub bootloader screen it just hangs with a black screen
[21:10] <Dave114> Pyro3d: that said, I think it may be a hardware fault ... but not quite sure.  Was planning to replace that Mac Mini with an Intel NUC once the latest ones are available locally in any case.
[21:11] <Dave114> Pyro3d: at least something is weird with the machine.  It failed to boot OS X after latest updates but will boot, e.g., OS X recovery ... so I was hoping I'd be able to try booting Ubuntu off a USB key
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Dave114: can you boot the USB to the boot menu ? then there is the option " check disk for defects " .
[21:14] <Dave114> Bashing-om: I did a fsck in OSX's single user mode and it passes the disk utility's check in OS X recovery.  OS X has been pissing me off increasingly lately though so been looking at this as a good excuse to get back to Linux on the desktop
[21:14] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, try booting without quite splash vt.handoff flag in kernel boot parameter
[21:15] <RedPenguin> I guess badblocks never tells you if it finds any bad blocks until it's 100% done?
[21:15] <wedgie> RedPenguin: pretty sure it lists them as it finds them
[21:16] <RedPenguin> oh so it got to 55.28% so far, it's prob didn't find any yet?
[21:16] <RedPenguin> It's writing to a log and so far the console and .log are both empty
[21:16] <wedgie> RedPenguin: yeah, would have listed any it has found so far
[21:17] <wedgie> RedPenguin: though, depending on the test you're running, 55% may only be just beginning to actualy verify results
[21:17] <RedPenguin> Just giving the drive a check as some worried earlier about it saying 2 pending sectors
[21:17] <RedPenguin> read-only test (-v -s)
[21:18] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: where does that param go?  Hit e I think to edit params but that now seems a multi-line thing
[21:18] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: err ... I see splash on one line.  Just delete that or need something else?
[21:19] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, remove 'quite' too
[21:19] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Any other ideas? I can provide a tcpdump taken from the vm with a couple pings from each direction if it helps.
[21:20] <kode54> Tahr-Poop: I think you mean quiet
[21:21] <RedPenguin> guess I will just have to wait and see, smartctl said at least two sectors trouble reading, but so far badblocks is 57% with no issues
[21:21] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: all right.  It's now booking.  Hoping it's not stuck with the graphics drivers.  Showed "fb: switching to radeondrmfb from EFI VGA" and has now been sitting there for about 30 seconds
[21:21] <RedPenguin> but smartcrtl got to 90% in the long test so wonder if that means closer to end of drive
[21:21] <Tahr-Poop> kode54, ohh thanks for correction
[21:24] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: looks like this may be the issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/843303/radeon-driver-cant-run-without-nomodeset-on-macpro6-1-with-two-amd-r9-280x-t and I don't see a full solution.  Or is there basically a need to dig for proprietary drivers for the radeon card in the machine?
[21:25] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, well its stuck.... now add nomodeset flag in boot parameter and boot
[21:26] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: I'm sort of wondering if I might just try recovering that OS X install and wait for the new machine before trying Ubuntu again.
[21:30] <Dave114> Trying OS X internet recovery for now - will try Ubuntu with nomodeset later tonight if that doesn't work
[21:32] <bigLanky> I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my desktop and I am having some display issues
[21:33] <Bashing-om> !details | bigLanky
[21:34] <ragecraze> hey guys, i need help with wifi on ubuntu, everytime i log into my pc, i have to enable wifi by the commands ifconfig ra0 up and service network-manager restart. how do i make wifi start by itself?
[21:34] <kode54> Dave114 was having problems with a Mac Pro?
[21:35] <bigLanky> I have 1 Radeon HD 6850 card that I use HDMI for my main display, then I have a low end NVIDIA GeForce GT730 that I use to power my other 2 monitors
[21:35] <bigLanky> in windows, this worked just fine... in Ubuntu I had some issues, mainly with the NVIDIA card, which I did some research and NVIDIA does have problems, so I ordered a replacement AMD card foro this
[21:36] <bigLanky> now, I only have the Radeon card in... when 1 monitor is hooked to it things work properly... when I hook a second monitor in, I get no output on either
[21:36] <bigLanky> is there something special I need to do for multi-monitor support?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> bigLanky: Ouch .. preently AMD is having growing pains to deal with multi monitors .
[21:37] <bigLanky> :(
[21:37] <bigLanky> is there a recommended card that will support this?
[21:38] <bigLanky> Ideally I would like to have a similar setup to what I had where my main card powers my main monitor and a secondary card powers the 2 extra monitors
[21:38] <bigLanky> is that possible to do?
[21:38] <Bashing-om> bigLanky: Me, I can not advise in that realm .. no experience . Let's see what others here can advise .
[21:39] <ragecraze> anyone can help me with wifi issue?
[21:41] <bigLanky> ok, i will wait and keep researching, thanks for the info
[21:41] <ducasse> bigLanky: which driver are you using for the amd card?
[21:41] <bigLanky> i am trying to SSH using a private key that I have, but when I SSH it asks for the passphrase (there is none) and then it asks me for the login password
[21:41] <ragecraze> can anyone help me with wifi issue?
[21:42] <wedgie> bigLanky: you sure it's using the key? Try forcing it to use the right one with -i /path/to/private/key
[21:43] <wedgie> or use -v to get some debug output to see which key it's using
[21:43] <ragecraze> guys anyone can help me with wifi issues?
[21:44] <wedgie> ragecraze: nobody knows unless you ask a question or describe your issue
[21:44] <ragecraze> wedgie my wifi has to be enabled manually everytime i log into linux
[21:44] <ragecraze> wedgie i have to use ifconfig ra0 up and service.networking manager restart
[21:44] <ragecraze> how do i make it start automatically?
[21:45] <bigLanky> ducasse: https://s29.postimg.org/p5ov9423r/Screenshot_from_2017_01_28_14_44_19.png
[21:47] <bigLanky> wedgie: https://s23.postimg.org/6k4ss7bxn/Screenshot_from_2017_01_28_14_46_38.png
[21:48] <wedgie> seems it thinks that your key does indeed have a passphrase
[21:48] <ragecraze> wedgie u can help me?
[21:48] <ducasse> !patience | ragecraze
[21:48] <wedgie> ragecraze: no. But if you're patient maybe someone else can.
[21:48] <bigLanky> it doesn't though, none was set when I created
[21:49] <bigLanky> when I run ssh -v root@host, I see that it tries private keys in /home/biglanky/.ssh/id_rsa, id_da, id_ecdsa, id_ed25519
[21:49] <bigLanky> do I need to add my kep to that list somehow?
[21:49] <wedgie> bigLanky: not if you specify it with -i like you did. You sure the pubkey is on the remote host?
[21:50] <Tahr-Poop> ragecraze, add interface to /etc/network/interfaces http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/interfaces.5.html
[21:50] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: BTW, internet recovery mode failed.  (Strangely I had to reset the PVRAM on the machine after running it as it even busted Ubuntu.  nomodeset did get me Ubuntu booted though so thanks for that help!
[21:50] <bigLanky> yeah
[21:50] <ubuntu433> very quick and urgent question - how do i reset ubuntu server via ssh?
[21:50] <wedgie> bigLanky: can you pastebin the -v output?
[21:50] <wedgie> ubuntu433: clarify "reset"
[21:50] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, https://orville.thebennettproject.com/articles/installing-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-a-2011-macbook-pro/
[21:50] <ubuntu433> back to fresh installed state
[21:51] <ragecraze> tahr-poop my friend im very new to this, could you explain it in a way that a newbie would understand and do it?
[21:51] <bigLanky> i am able to connect with Putty on my windows box usingn this same key... only difference is with putty it uses the .ppk, but I have created a new file on my ubuntu pc that has the key.txt file
[21:51] <ducasse> ubuntu433: you don't. reinstall.
[21:51] <wedgie> bigLanky: did you use putty-gen to create the key?
[21:51] <ubuntu433> alright, via ssh, how to?
[21:51] <wedgie> or whatever that tool is called?
[21:51] <bigLanky> yeah
[21:51] <bigLanky> well, i created the .pem file first
[21:52] <ducasse> ubuntu433: you need console access.
[21:52] <wedgie> putty uses a different format afaik. But you can convert it to openssh format.
[21:52] <bigLanky> then used puttyGen to convert that to ppk
[21:52] <ubuntu433> i have console access thru ssh :|
[21:52] <ducasse> ubuntu433: then you _don't_ have console access.
[21:52] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: so if I read that correctly the only way to get Ubuntu running longterm there would be to stick to embedded intel graphics?
[21:52] <wedgie> bigLanky: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2224066/how-to-convert-ssh-keypairs-generated-using-puttygenwindows-into-key-pairs-use
[21:53] <ubuntu433> alright, checked again, yes i do
[21:53] <ducasse> ubuntu433: is this a vps?
[21:53] <ubuntu433> yes
[21:53] <ducasse> ubuntu433: just kill it and make a new one.
[21:53] <ubuntu433> not an option
[21:54] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: or is the suggestion that the reason for the boot failure is that the ATI graphics card failed.  (this is a mac mini not a macbook pro but wouldn't surprise me if they're using the same hardware)
[21:54] <ducasse> ubuntu433: why not?
[21:55] <ubuntu433> because that's not an option
[21:55] <Dave114> is it possible to either resize an encrypted HFS partition or access an Apple time machine backup from Ubuntu these days?
[21:56] <ducasse> ubuntu433: you don't have an option to create a new one? or you don't want to?
[21:56] <bekks> Dave114: For the first parte, you need to ask an OSX-channel, and for the second part the answer is "no".
[21:57] <Dave114> bekks: the reason that I was asking here is that I've only got access to Linux tools - e.g. gparted
[21:57] <bekks> Dave114: So the overall answer is "no" then.
[21:57] <bigLanky> ok im going to try and export using putty gen
[21:57] <bigLanky> brb
[21:58] <barnito> anyone know of an openhab channel?
[21:59] <Dave114> bekks: all right.  Thanks anyways.  Think what I need to do is sync a backup copy of my home dir in OSX to my NAS and then just abandon the install and clobber the existing OS X partition
[21:59] <ducasse> barnito: #openhab exists, at least. next time, try alis first.
[22:00] <ducasse> !alis | barnito
[22:00] <ubuntu433> I can't assign an image to a proxmox vm because some fucked up storage i don't know about, so it's not an option
[22:00] <ducasse> !language | ubuntu433
[22:02] <ducasse> ubottu: well, you basically need a new vm, you can't "reset to factory defaults" unless you have a snapshot.
[22:02] <ducasse> ubuntu433: well, you basically need a new vm, you can't "reset to factory defaults" unless you have a snapshot.
[22:03] <FrogCast>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
[22:03] <FrogCast> " /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
[22:03] <FrogCast> opps sorry :P
[22:03] <freelancerbob> hi
[22:03] <FrogCast> I'm trying to make something, how can I find out how to link it to libasound?
[22:04] <FrogCast> freelancerbob, hello
[22:04] <freelancerbob> i have problem with this command
[22:04] <freelancerbob> for i in *.ogg;do ffmpeg -i $i $name.mp3;done
[22:04] <freelancerbob> 9: No such file or director
[22:05] <wedgie> freelancerbob: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/089
[22:06] <wedgie> aactually, no
[22:06] <wedgie> just need to quote your vars
[22:07] <wedgie> "i" "$name.mp3"
[22:07] <wedgie> err
[22:07] <wedgie> "$i" "$name.mp3"
[22:07] <ducasse> FrogCast: what are you trying to make?
[22:08] <FrogCast> ducasse, just a Makefile.linux
[22:09] <freelancerbob> wedgie: for i in *.ogg;do ffmpeg -i $i "$name.mp3";done    >>Still same error
[22:09] <FrogCast> FrogCast, its a for a piece of proprietary c software I purchased. I understand that I have to link the appropriate file, but I just don't know how to efficiently find the libs on my system.
[22:09] <wedgie> for i in ./*.ogg; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "$name.mp3"; done
[22:10] <wedgie> freelancerbob: always quote exansions. That is, always quote anything with a $ at the front
[22:12] <ducasse> FrogCast: probably better if you ask this in ##linux, it's outside what we support here. but make sure libasound2-dev is installed.
[22:12] <FrogCast> ducasse, ah, didn't even consider the -dev files. Thanks
[22:12] <FrogCast> !cookie | ducasse
[22:13] <ducasse> FrogCast: probably all you're missing, otherwise try ##linux.
[22:23] <SansiroSugata> hello
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> last time i used IRC was in 1998...
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> My God...
[22:24] <excelsiora> hi
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> hi
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> is this for real?
[22:24] <excelsiora> welcome back?
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> this is IRC ?
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> my God..
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> i Googled it accidentally..
[22:25] <excelsiora> IRC
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> people still using IRC ?
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> amazing!!!
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> SansiroSugata  this is the ubuntu support channel, confine yourself to ubuntu questions
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> Understood.
[22:25] <TheOnlyBouncer> Ohai, question, i have a laptop with a 1060 and try to install Ubuntu, but it seems not to be able to boot up the live stick. nomodeset seems not to work
[22:26] <SansiroSugata> Where can i find information on how to set up Storage Server using Virtual Space ?
[22:28] <ducasse> SansiroSugata: pretty sure that's not an ubuntu question.
[22:29] <TheOnlyBouncer> I tried both with Ubuntu 16.04 and with a daily build of 17.04 btw
[22:29] <TheOnlyBouncer> probably nouvau screwing up somehow?
[22:30] <k1l> TheOnlyBouncer: tried 16.10? that should work with nomodeset
[22:30] <TheOnlyBouncer> seems weird that 16.10 should work and 17 daily not?
[22:31] <ducasse> TheOnlyBouncer: 17 daily is a dev build, so not really.
[22:32] <TheOnlyBouncer> k will try 16.10 then
[22:34] <countingdaisies> Does anyone know more about macchanger? http://www.gnu.org/software/macchanger
[22:34] <antenne> ?
[22:35] <ducasse> countingdaisies: "know more"?
[22:36] <TheOnlyBouncer> countingdaisies, its a changer for mac addresses
[22:36] <countingdaisies> I'm wondering why I can run sudo macchanger -A wlp2s0 and get output that indicates the mac was changed, but when I do sudo ifconfig after that (after binging that wireless card back up) - is shows the old (actual address) rather than the new one macchanger said it would be?
[22:37] <countingdaisies> I've been using macchanger for a few years but have never been able to get it to work right (but that's another story)
[22:37] <countingdaisies> TheOnlyBouncer: Sorry, I get to typing and ....
[22:37] <countingdaisies> :)
[22:37] <ducasse> countingdaisies: what do you do to bring the interface up?
[22:38] <countingdaisies> ducasse: This time, it was brought down and up via the gui: > network  icon in top bar > Enable WiFi
[22:39] <countingdaisies> I have done sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 up / down before though
[22:39] <ducasse> countingdaisies: thought so. aiui, (at least some versions of) network manager will override what macchanger does
[22:40] <countingdaisies> ducasse: aiui ? <--- sorry never seen it. And, does that mean its in how I'm using it? What's the right way to do this?
[22:41] <ducasse> countingdaisies: aiui = as i understand it
[22:41] <countingdaisies> ducasse: ahh
[22:41] <Cust0sLim3n> hai
[22:42] <ducasse> countingdaisies: so, if my understanding is correct, you would need to avoid using network manager for that interface.
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> can someone send me their /etc/fstab and /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> or bpaste it
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> preferably from 16.10 server
[22:42] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: fstab is dependend on your exact system.
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, I know
[22:43] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: i guess you removed /etc or such=
[22:43] <countingdaisies> ducasse: Oh. Does that turn this into something more involved then?
[22:43] <Cust0sLim3n> but I'm doing a debootstrap install and its just blank
[22:43] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, so I just want to see conventions
[22:43] <Cust0sLim3n> so mine does not look too odd
[22:44] <ducasse> countingdaisies: a bit. you might be able to do it with using wicd instead, that's pretty simple. i'm not certain that will work, though.
[22:44] <countingdaisies> ducasse: thanks. I think now I know what I'm up against so I should be able to look it up and find a soln.
[22:45] <ducasse> countingdaisies: i'd try wicd-gtk as that would be the simplest solution.
[22:46] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/apds04.html
[22:46] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, I don't believe that one
[22:46] <countingdaisies> cool
[22:46] <Cust0sLim3n> I don't think yours has entries for proc and sys
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, which is why I want to see a real one
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, I'm sure that one will work but I don't think that is what a real one looks like
[22:47] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: as i already said: that depends on your exact hardware setup and usecase.
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, ok - I heard you - and I explained why I want to see one - and I explained how the one in the manual is suspect
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, so thanks - will get along without it if nobody is interested in sharing theirs
[22:48] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: its not suspect. you need to think about your setup and adjust the fstab. thats it
[22:48] <ducasse> Cust0sLim3n: no, there are no fstab entries for /proc and /sys normally
[22:48] <Cust0sLim3n> ducasse, I know ... which is why I'm asking for someone to share theirs created by their installed
[22:48] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, look - its quite simple - I asked for someone to share it - if you don't want to share yours its ok
[22:48] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: ok, good luck with your issue
[22:50] <ducasse> Cust0sLim3n: sure, here's an fstab. *shrug* http://paste.ubuntu.com/23883497/
[22:52] <TheOnlyBouncer> k1l, hmm 16.10 nomodeset also does not work for this system
[22:53] <k1l> TheOnlyBouncer: what is the exact error? where does it stop?
[22:53] <TheOnlyBouncer> no error, just a blinking/resetting probably during starting X
[22:54] <countingdaisies> You know, there's another thing I've wondered about for years and never taken the time to ask. Problem: I'd like to answer questions here too but I have to keep making progress on other things at the same time. What ends up happening (in practice) is that the chat window gets buried under the other applications I'm working with and I have no convenient way to identify questions I can answer...
[22:54] <countingdaisies> ...and when they are asked.  Question: I'm wondering if there are techniques, additions software, additional configuration, or tweaks that would solve the problem and help me participate in the community more?
[22:54] <k1l> can you install using the internal gpu? then install the nvidia driver and change to the nvidia gpu?
[22:54] <countingdaisies> holy .....
[22:54] <countingdaisies> sorry
[22:54] <TheOnlyBouncer> k1l, can't there is no internal gpu
[22:55] <Cust0sLim3n> thanks ducasse - so installed used UUIDs or did you make them uuids ?
[22:56] <Cust0sLim3n> acutally nvm - its not use lvm - where I'm actually unsure about convention - but thanks - at least I'm clear about whether or not I should worry about mounting shm
[22:57] <k1l> TheOnlyBouncer: hmm, dont know then, sorry. maybe others know about a solution
[22:57] <ducasse> Cust0sLim3n: installer uses uuids, also for lvm.
[22:58] <pos> anyone care to confirm a bug?
[22:58] <Cust0sLim3n> thanks ducasse
[22:58] <ducasse> countingdaisies: i briefly scan my irc client every now and then and read the latest few messages in a few specific channels.
[22:58] <pos> log into an x session, open a few windows, etc. then ctrl+alt+f1 and login as root, run a command or two and then ctrl+d. what happens to your x session?
[22:58] <bekks> pos: Best way to do so would be filing a bug report, and people will triage it.
[22:59] <k1l> pos: on ubuntu root account is not activeated
[22:59] <countingdaisies> ducasse: right on
[22:59] <k1l> *activated
[22:59] <TheOnlyBouncer> so yeah, laptop. 1060, no way of getting to a installer...
[22:59] <pos> k1l, ok, old habit. anyway, the x session gets frakked. prolly the same with a normal user instead of root
[23:08] <k1l> pos: cant test that here. best to file a bug report
[23:08] <k1l> !bug | pos
[23:08] <ducasse> pos: it's not, i can login to console, run stuff and exit just fine. doesn't affect x in any way unless i tell it to.
[23:09] <pos> ducasse, intel graphics?
[23:09] <ducasse> pos: intel on one system, amd on another.
[23:10] <pos> strange. same behavior across three diff systems here
[23:11] <ducasse> pos: ubuntu version?
[23:12] <pos> 16.04.1
[23:12] <pos> i found it strange that terminal activity for one user can have any effect on another user
[23:13] <bekks> pos: How do use do that, time sharing on the seat in front of the computer? :)
[23:14] <pos> nah, i avoid sudoing in an x session and do root stuff in its own tty
[23:14] <bekks> pos: thats not related to the things above, is it?
[23:15] <pos> bekks, well, if I'm logged into X as a normal user and want to do apt-get update ; apt-get install something
[23:15] <RedPenguin> looks like I may have finally gotten somewhere looking at this drive, it seems to be very sluggisgh at 95.55% badblocks
[23:15] <bekks> pos: I'd just open a terminal window then, and run sudo apt ...
[23:15] <pos> i do that as root in the tty, when I then log out x is frakked
[23:16] <pos> bekks, nah, I don't sudo in x sessions
[23:16] <bekks> pos: On Ubuntu, root doesnt have a password, so you cant login as root.
[23:16] <pos> bekks, i can
[23:16] <pos> ofc, i don't do a normal install :)
[23:17] <bekks> pos: So do a "normal" install, and try it again then.
[23:17] <TheOnlyBouncer> ffs not even xforcevesa works...
[23:17] <pos> ...
[23:19] <i7ch> hello people. i'm having the dumbest issue: trying to install 16.04 and when graphical setup should start, it sets some resolution that apparently is not supported by the display. any way i can specify (lower) the resolution from the live image?
[23:20] <demonspork> I have an Ubuntu VM on an ESXI host. There are some major problems, commands will take a minute to run sometimes, it randomly seems to freeze. The rest of the time it is fast, all storage is SSD speeds, network works right. I noticed that I have 20GB of RAM listed, but I am using 808M and 149M is free. Does this mean that Dynamic memory is turned on for this VM, and could it also be the problem?
[23:21] <Bashing-om> i7ch: nVidia graphics ? ,, might try the nomodeset boot parameter .
[23:22] <i7ch> Bashing-om, yea, nvidia card. i tried with setting custom modes, but it crashes right after "Ubuntu GNOME ...." thingie.
[23:22] <i7ch> should i try with just plain nomodeset ?
[23:24] <Bashing-om> i7ch: Yeah, .. but is the .iso verified and the copy as image verified ?
[23:25] <i7ch> does it matter ?
[23:25] <i7ch> you're referring to hashes ?
[23:26] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | i7ch
[23:26] <i7ch> Bashing-om, i know about md5sum. but what is has to do with it ?
[23:27] <ducasse> demonspork: try #ubuntu-server, perhaps they have more experience with ubuntu on esxi
[23:32] <santos177> hello
[23:33] <ducasse> demonspork: i don't know if you need the open-vm-tools for esxi also, are those installed?
[23:34] <i7ch> nevermind .got it. just specify "video=[desiredresolution]
[23:34] <bekks> ducasse: you dont need them, and they will conflict with the VMware vmtools, but essentially they arent needed (both of them).
[23:35] <Bashing-om> i7ch: Well nice to build on a firm foundation, no ? Particularly when there are problems .
[23:35] <ducasse> bekks: ack, thanks. good to know.
[23:37] <wedgie> these days open-vm-tools are preferred over vmware tools, per vmware.
[23:48] <psichas> guys, could someone to say, how to reply for email conference with kmail? ;)
[23:55] <bekks> psichas: By clicking "Answer"?
[23:55] <bekks> psichas: It's an email, basically.
[23:56] <psichas> bekks, i just want reply to all
[23:58] <psichas> bekks, so if i will use reply to all everyone'll get email ? i don't know, i see only one email in the fiels "sen to"
[23:58] <Daniel_Carver> bazhang: Please refrain from idling in #ubuntu-ops.
[23:58] <Daniel_Carver> This is only for ops.