[00:01] only thing about that SK Hynix news piece is it's TLC they're referring to, usually the one i try to avoid [00:04] nod, I did hear a theory that the 3d RAMs tended to have bigger cells on each layer so they weren't quite as bad as the 2D cells where they'd tried to cram them in, but still yes [00:10] i think that was because they kept to higher process sizes (32nm+) in the early days of 3D, now it seems the race to cheap cost has them combining them all [00:11] nod [01:38] nn folks \o [01:47] o/ [02:52] hmm other than a plymouth animation going awol and a rather slow startup it seems OK [09:57] I have a new laptop with intel hd 620 graphics using Ubuntu 16.04. In kernel 4.4, lshw -C display shows that the intel card is UNCLAIMED. In kernel 4.8.17, it does not say UNCLAIMED anymore. presumably the drivers are more up to date in the newer kernel. is it possibe to take the driver from the newer kernel and use it in the older kernel. (I should mention I've never had to update the kernel like this before, so I don't know much [09:57] about them) [09:59] It would indeed be possible if you rebuilt the kernel/driver modules, but my question is why not just use ubuntu 16.10? [10:12] morning boys and girls. [10:42] O/ [15:40] SuperEngineer: correct answer would've been to suggest an HWE stack :) [15:53] ;-) [15:55] though unclaimed isn't exactly confirmation of anything i'd wager