[01:31] Tried to install Lubuntu a couple times. Keeps stating an error that dev/sda could not be installed. Any suggestions? [01:43] And that happens when? [02:25] hello [02:25] i can't find lubuntu 15.04 [02:26] !15.04 [02:26] Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid [02:29] i mean i can't find the DL link [02:30] Well, you shouldn't download it anymore. [02:31] why is that? [02:32] Because, like I had the bot tell you, it's EOL for a year now. [02:34] my CPU is affected by a bug and I can't use Kernel 4.x [02:35] budder: go for 14.04 [02:35] like I do [02:35] so i am resorting to an older release [02:35] it's supported as opposed to 15.04 which is totally deprecated [02:36] budder: what's the cpu? [02:36] LuMint: i believe the LTS enablement stack makes it so taht 14.04 still have the updated kernel [02:36] only if you want it to [02:37] LuMint: celeron n2940. [02:37] you have a choice, 3.13, 3,16, 4,{4,5 - not sure} [02:37] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109051 [02:37] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 109051 in intel_idle "intel_idle.max_cstate=1 required on baytrail to prevent crashes" [Blocking,Needinfo] [02:37] LuMint: wut [02:38] do you mean I can still have 14.04 but retain the 3.x kernel? [02:38] idk what this enablement stack is. i'm very new to linux in general [02:38] budder: didn't I told you that? [02:39] uname-a: Linux office-desktop 3.13.0-107-generic #154-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 19 19:20:26 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux [02:39] convinced? [02:40] LuMint: wait a second, so it is OPTIONAL to use the newer kernel? can you please link me to some more information on this? and how about going to do this? [02:41] yes. google/duck it. install 14.04 [02:42] budder: Just get the 14.04.1 release, it has the initial kernel still. [02:44] duck it> [02:44] LuMint: duck it? [02:44] ducduckgo.com [02:44] krytarik: ok [02:45] thanks both of you [02:45] wait LuMint are you also affected by the same bug? [02:46] no I'm affected by a different bug, which is not really a bug but a dropped support for my GPU drivers. [02:46] so I can't use anything newer than 3.7 and still have nvidia-173 proprietary drivers [02:47] well actually, I can if I used arch or if I somehow ported the patches from aur to enable it. [02:47] but that's technicalities. [02:47] why bother if 3.13 is still supported [02:48] got it... mostly [02:49] thnx again [02:50] 14.04 is supported for at least two more years. [05:35] hello everyone [05:35] hope you are all well [05:35] first time in here... i installed Lubuntu for the first time today ... wohooo [05:35] i already have a question.. if i may [05:35] Q is : how do i update the kernal on my raspberry pi ? [05:35] sudo apt-get install --reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader [05:36] is that the correct command i should use? i would use this on say my normal ubuntu box... unsure about how it works on lubuntu for RasPi [05:37] Vialas_: are you trying to reinstall your kernel or update it? because that command doesn't update anything. just reinstalls it. it also doesn't refer to the kernel, but the bootloader. [05:38] rofl ok so i have no idea what im doing rofl [05:38] i want to update my kernal [05:38] so just run updates like normal and it will take care of it [05:38] sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade [05:38] according to a podcast i head there was a security issue with the Raspi Krnal [05:39] oh not apt-get? [05:39] what security issue? [05:39] apt is a nicer version of apt-get [05:40] oh i never used apt before hehe [05:40] i am not sure of the specifics - was on a podcast let me check... [05:42] found it https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3170-2/ [05:43] wow [05:43] how you find it so fast :O [05:43] all the security issues in ubuntu are listed under ubuntu.com/usn [05:43] anyways if your isp doesn't support ipv6, i wouldn't even worry about it [05:43] oh cool cool [05:43] still, it's good to fix it [05:43] yea [05:43] and you know what [05:44] what kernel you have now? uname -a [05:44] i did the dist-upgrade [05:44] i do that quite religiously [05:44] then yeah, no need to sweat [05:44] it [05:44] oh haha sweet :) [05:44] security updates are always the highest priority [05:44] i am running 4.1.19-v7+ [05:44] yes if you dist-upgrade everyday you probably are much better patched than most companies [05:44] woot woot [05:44] oh so you're a bit behind [05:45] you're on xenial? [05:45] ive thought about doing sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade -Y on a crhon job :P [05:45] cuz THAT issue only affects yakkety [05:45] raspberry pi [05:45] lsb_release -a [05:45] what version of lubuntu [05:45] i thought i was on the msot up to date version :( [05:46] ubuntu 16.04 [05:46] xenial [05:46] yep xenial [05:46] so there's no issues for you anyways :) [05:46] 16.04.1 [05:46] woot woot [05:46] why am i behind then :( [05:46] yeah i'm a little shocked as to why you're behind [05:46] :( [05:47] i just installed it today [05:47] literaly [05:48] try dpkg -l | grep -E 'linux-image-.*-[0-9]+' [05:48] that'll list all the kernels you have installed [05:48] oh bother remove the -.* [05:48] that'll just show up the extra package which is irrelevant [05:49] you might still be running the original kernel even though you updated to the new noe [05:51] one sec [05:54] dpkg -l [05:54] is that a L or a pipe? [05:54] l [05:55] u should install a normal font [05:55] im on a mac :( [05:55] lol [05:55] there is NO normal [05:55] Vialas_: besides, there couldn't be TWO pipes in a row [05:55] oh lol [05:56] and a pipe preceded by dash will presumably not work [05:56] well, it does. [05:56] Vialas_: but that dash can potentially cause all kinda weird thigns so you don't use | with - before it :) [05:58] wxl: forgive my curiousity, but what does + sign do? [05:59] LuMint: regex for "one or more" of the previous character [06:01] could have used * for zero or more but that'd be weird :) [06:02] dpkg -l | grep -E 'linux-image-[0-9]+' [06:02] didnt give any output [06:04] that's weird [06:04] try dpkg -l | grep linux-image [06:04] nothing... [06:04] um [06:05] wxl: thanks, didn't know one can mix it with * ? [] and {}, that is bash stuff [06:05] try grepping just for just linux [06:05] ? [06:05] dpkg -l | grep linux [06:05] Vialas_: [06:05] LuMint: [0-9] is actually NOT bash stuff. that's regex. the fact that the regex is contained within single quotes indicates that bash will not attempt to expand it [06:06] e.g. `echo '$SHELL'` won't show you your shell [06:06] bingo [06:06] we have output :) [06:06] wxl: ty [06:07] !pastebin | Vialas_ [06:07] Vialas_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [06:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23892115/ [06:08] hey i have to duck out real quick... do you mind if i come back and continue [06:08] or are you going to leave soon? [06:08] sorry for being anoying :$ [06:08] i'm about out [06:08] ok [06:08] but still very confused [06:08] im very confused myself :( [06:08] maybey we can continue tomorrow :D [06:08] k [06:09] wouldn't think arm stuff would be so complicated [06:09] i'm about to ragequit mode anyways (not your fault) [06:09] why? [06:09] * wxl smells sarcasm on LuMint's breath [06:09] :( [06:09] dont ragequit [06:09] you seem too nice to rage!!! [06:10] oh i'm having issues with an image not behaving properly on a virtual machine [06:10] oh golly [06:10] it's a figure of speech of course Vialas_ :) [06:10] story of my life [06:10] thats good wxl :) [06:10] hehe [06:10] yeah, don't, you are by far one of the most helpful and nice people here [06:10] i gave up using debian [06:10] hence why im now using lubuntu [06:10] well welcome to ubuntu :) [06:10] Vialas_: what was wrong with your debian? [06:10] thanks wxl [06:11] Vialas_: problems with something proprietary/firmware? [06:11] well it is a pain to install, when i do install it the graphcis drivers dont work [06:11] yes exactaly LuMint [06:11] i use ubuntu and it just works [06:11] you should just add the nonfree repo [06:11] i tried LuMint ... didnt seem to work [06:11] i like Lubuntu im just woried about the conical stuff in it :S [06:11] weird [06:11] very weird [06:11] canonical? [06:11] conical? [06:11] yea [06:11] :$ [06:11] lol [06:12] the only stuff canonical owns is the trademarks [06:12] like "lubuntu" [06:12] as far as actual code, not really [06:12] fewwwwww [06:12] and no amazon crapware on lubuntu [06:12] or that stupid unity [06:12] * Vialas_ vomits [06:12] sorry everyone... ill clean it up [06:13] i mean they have their pet projects like um [06:13] man i can't think of the name of the darn thing now hahaha [06:13] i keep wanting to say upstream [06:13] upstart! [06:13] that's it [06:13] Vialas_: what are you going to do with your raspberry? [06:13] hmm ok [06:13] wxl: not anymore :( [06:13] well i have heaps of pis [06:13] lol [06:13] but those are things they push upstream as well, so it's not really proprietary [06:13] i am an adict [06:13] 1 is a VPN server [06:13] LuMint: yeah yeah [06:13] another is a every day linux box [06:13] upstart is almost deprecated by now [06:13] Lubuntu does use the "indicators" [06:13] will probably only be supported until 19' [06:13] another i use as an intranet webserver [06:13] That's a canonical stuff [06:14] xangua whatis an "indicators" [06:14] Vialas_: do you ssh into it? [06:14] yep [06:14] SSH all the way [06:14] I see [06:14] love ssh! [06:14] xangua: if you're referring to some aspect of unity, even that's open sourced [06:14] Vialas_: btw you can do that with a vmware VM [06:14] and forward X, too [06:14] what u mean LuMint ? [06:14] Well you can run lubuntu in lubuntu with virt manager [06:15] Vialas_: indicators are like notification icons/area but "better" [06:15] yes but can you run lubuntu in lubuntu in lubuntu? [06:15] xangua right... [06:15] Vialas_: i mean you don't need a dedicated linux box to be able to use it from windows. [06:15] good use of quotes, xangua [06:15] yea LuMint but i like to have a linux box [06:15] understood [06:15] mac is propiatary and leeeks tooooo much info [06:15] i like linux [06:15] :D [06:16] Vialas_: well block he hell out of it with a firewall on the router [06:16] ok time for dinner [06:16] hope i get to talk to you all soon [06:16] block it? [06:16] how so LuMint ? [06:16] yeah, unwanted ips/servers [06:16] mmm true [06:16] oh these servers [06:16] sorry [06:16] they are at my house [06:16] i own them [06:16] so behind my router [06:16] safe :D [06:16] or better yet set up a freebsd box with pf on it and block everything! [06:17] openbsd would be a more secure choice, I guess [06:17] since a router doesn't really need anything GUI [06:17] or pretty much any user software [06:19] yay... ok lesson learnt dont talk to fast and hit enter.... Drone` will not be happy wiht you [06:19] XD [06:19] ok got to run [06:19] hope to talk to you all very soon. thanks wxl and LuMint and otehrs :) [06:19] bbl [06:19] ta [06:20] see you [06:20] wxl: incidentally, do you happen to know if it's possible to apply a patch from aur so I could use nvidia-173 with a kernel newer than 3.7 (3.13 in fact)? [06:20] the arch guys somehow managed to get it working with new kernels [06:20] LuMint: never tried, but i'm sure it will need some massaging [06:21] ok that's it [06:21] * wxl kicks the virtual machine to the curb and goes to bed [06:22] good night === edk is now known as e [13:20] hi guys [13:20] is the `dbus-launch` command supposed to fork multiple pids of `dbus-daemon` ? [13:21] because I'm having 914 dbus-daemon pids [13:21] and I don't want to killall as I'll fuck up systemd [13:22] what's the best approach in this case? How can I launch a process via `dbus-launch` without making it to fork so many `dbus-daemon` pids [16:25] Hi, I need some help with a problem while upgrading from 14.04 LT to 16.04 LTS [20:00] Hi, I am trying to run a command via a Lubuntu LiveUSB and when I do it with sudo it tells me: 'dd: failed to open '/dev/sda': Permission denied'. Any idea what I am doing wrong? [20:00] I am logged in as the lubuntu user [20:01] My command is: sudo xzcat file.img.xz | dd of=/dev/sda bs=1M [20:02] RainMan28: Move the 'sudo' after the pipe, to the 'dd' - then it should work. [20:03] oh i see, thank you [20:03] Sure. [20:03] that is working, krytarik, thanks! [20:03] Welcome.