| === Darcy is now known as Spydar007 | ||
| willcooke | morning all | 09:05 |
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| seb128 | hey willcooke, how are you? feeling better? | 09:06 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:06 |
| willcooke | hi seb128. A bit, still not right though. Had real actual flu, man.. it really knocked me down | 09:07 |
| willcooke | hey davmor2 | 09:07 |
| willcooke | They've closed the local hospital because of a flu out-break there too, so I think it's "going round" | 09:07 |
| seb128 | it's the season | 09:07 |
| seb128 | real-flu sucks, I'm glad I just got a standard cold | 09:08 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke! I read that you were sick last week. Ah, so that was the flu… /me hugs you | 09:13 |
| didrocks | yeah, it seems the flu was quite (at least in France), violent here | 09:13 |
| willcooke | I knew Brexit was a good idea | 09:14 |
| didrocks | haha | 09:14 |
| didrocks | build a wall! | 09:14 |
| willcooke | XD | 09:14 |
| seb128 | attente, stop working in the middle of the night on a sunday! | 09:16 |
| * seb128 just saw a launchpad bug being set to fix committed | 09:17 | |
| willcooke | paracetamol time yay! | 09:27 |
| marga | Does anybody know if there is a reason why the ubuntu-themes package is not in Debian? | 09:35 |
| marga | The license is CC-BY-SA 3.0, which is accepted by Debian, so that's not it. Is it just because it's called Ubuntu? | 09:37 |
| seb128 | marga, it's probably just that nobody from Debian took interest in it | 09:39 |
| marga | That's surprising given how nice those themes are, but yeah, I was thinking that could be it. | 09:39 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning desktopers | 09:39 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg | 09:39 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128 Morning. | 09:40 |
| flexiondotorg | Have you recovered? | 09:40 |
| seb128 | yes, I'm back to normal, thanks | 09:40 |
| seb128 | a good w.e relaxing made wonders | 09:40 |
| flexiondotorg | I think I caught what you had via IRC. | 09:40 |
| seb128 | oh, get better | 09:40 |
| seb128 | I hope you got my version | 09:40 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll live :-) | 09:41 |
| seb128 | not willcooke's one | 09:41 |
| flexiondotorg | Was wiped out on Saturday. | 09:41 |
| flexiondotorg | Feeling mostly human today. | 09:41 |
| didrocks | hey flexiondotorg! | 09:43 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning didrocks :-) | 09:43 |
| flexiondotorg | How's the family? | 09:43 |
| didrocks | very good, thanks! Trying to sleep whenever we can though :p | 09:44 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep, that is the best way. | 09:44 |
| willcooke | didrocks, are you back to work full time already? | 09:44 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yes, we only have 3 days off in France. I did add 5 holidays rescued from last year | 09:46 |
| willcooke | :( | 09:46 |
| willcooke | Thats strange, when you have so many other workers rights that you should get a tiny amount of parental leave | 09:47 |
| didrocks | yep… well, working from home, it's not that much of an issue | 09:48 |
| hikiko | hey, bzr question: is there an easy way to remove the changes of a specific revision of a branch only? for example if we have N revisions remove the changes of revno N-3 only and keep N-4 and N-2 to N? | 10:22 |
| seb128 | hikiko, hey, there is no vcs-built-in way | 10:25 |
| seb128 | hikiko, but you can bzr diff -c <rev> | patch -p0 -R | 10:26 |
| seb128 | hikiko, or bzr merge -r n+1...n | 10:26 |
| hikiko | yeah, I think that was what I was looking for! thank you very much seb128 | 10:27 |
| seb128 | yw! | 10:27 |
| === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln | ||
| andyrock | hey all | 12:24 |
| willcooke | hi andyrock | 12:24 |
| === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko | ||
| hikiko | hi andyrock | 12:25 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, hello, do you have a timeframe for a lo 5.3.0.3 source package? | 13:12 |
| camako | alex-abreu, hi are you the right person to ask about the webbrowser-app under unity8 on the desktop? Mine is refusing to work. Does it require setup? | 13:22 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: on it | 13:26 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, great, thanks | 13:28 |
| alex-abreu | camako, hi, oSomon on #ubuntu-touch would be more in tune with the recent changes & statuses | 13:36 |
| camako | alex-abreu, thx | 13:38 |
| camako | alex-abreu, I'm not sure about oSoMoN's time zone, perhaps you can help. I was wondering why I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23893611/ under unity8 on the desktop.... Does webbrowser-app need any setup? Libertine? | 13:52 |
| davmor2 | camako: what gfx stack are you on | 13:55 |
| camako | davmor2, I have mesa | 13:56 |
| davmor2 | camako: on what hardware | 13:56 |
| camako | davmor2, intel gpu | 13:56 |
| davmor2 | camako: right I'll see if I have the issue on intel software too. | 13:57 |
| camako | davmor2, I just saw your reply on the other channel. | 13:57 |
| camako | davmor2, it's not something that I use every day, so my setup might be wonky | 13:58 |
| camako | thought I'd ask before digging deeper | 13:58 |
| davmor2 | camako: you should be able to checking unity7 if it runs by using snap run webbrowser-app | 13:58 |
| camako | I logged on to a U8 session and clicked on the icon | 13:59 |
| camako | davmor2, I'll try that | 13:59 |
| davmor2 | camako: failing that it might be down to drivers which would suck :( | 14:00 |
| camako | davmor2, hmm I am still hoping it's something simple in my env that I'm missing... but yeah, it would | 14:01 |
| jbicha | Sweet5hark: do you want liborcus/libixion 0.12 to be synced from Debian experimental now? | 14:01 |
| Sweet5hark | jbicha: that would be awesome | 14:01 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, how is that dmb application going btw? ;-) | 14:03 |
| desrt | hello peeps | 14:03 |
| ricotz | jbicha, thanks | 14:04 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, jbicha, maybe even hunspell? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | hey desrt, had a good w.e? | 14:04 |
| davmor2 | camako: so browser app is running here for me in unity7 so might be a unity8 specific issue of which there will likely be more than one :) | 14:04 |
| davmor2 | camako: try opening another app in unity8 and seeing if that opens | 14:05 |
| desrt | yes. fairly good indeed. spent saturday touring my family around the harbour, art galleries, good restaurants, botanical gardens, ice rinks, light shows, etc. of toronto as a 'goodbye' and then sunday went to another gallery, ice skating, and saw toni erdmann in the evening | 14:05 |
| camako | davmor2, yeah I've tried several and they open fine | 14:05 |
| desrt | (since if i see this film in germany, it will be in german, without subtitles) :p | 14:05 |
| camako | davmor2, trying on unity7 now | 14:06 |
| desrt | all in all, getting ready to leave soon. | 14:06 |
| desrt | seb128: how was your weekend? | 14:06 |
| davmor2 | camako: over to osomon then :( | 14:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, you had a pretty busy w.e! mine was way more relaxing, a bit of shopping, nice familly diner, watched the federer/nadal tennis game on sunday | 14:08 |
| seb128 | desrt, when do you fly to europe? | 14:09 |
| desrt | seb128: gotta get in my last bits of toronto, while i still can! ;) i fly tomorrow evening. | 14:10 |
| seb128 | desrt, enjoy toronto! | 14:10 |
| desrt | ;( | 14:11 |
| desrt | :~( | 14:11 |
| camako | davmor2, I am trying to install webbrowser-app as a snap but it's not liking the name... I'm using 'sudo snap install webbrowser-app'... Is that the correct way? | 14:12 |
| desrt | don't get me wrong... i love köln... but somehow being away from a place, tossed back into it for only 1.5 months, then away for a long time again... it helps one to appreciate how great it really is | 14:12 |
| davmor2 | camako: if you are on the same system it should already be installed, if not you would need sudo snap install webbrowser-app --devmode --edge | 14:13 |
| camako | davmor2, yes I'm on the same system | 14:13 |
| camako | davmor2, but on the unity7 side | 14:13 |
| davmor2 | camako: then run snap list if it is listed just run snap run webbrowser-app | 14:14 |
| camako | davmor2, it's not listed | 14:14 |
| davmor2 | camako: so you would need the sudo snap install line from above then | 14:15 |
| camako | davmor2, yeah ... but I'm getting "error: cannot install "webbrowser-app": snap not found" | 14:15 |
| camako | ah I need to "snap download" it first | 14:16 |
| davmor2 | camako: hmmm you should need to do that | 14:16 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, I know the feeling, though a bit easier for me to go back and forth between places | 14:16 |
| desrt | indeed.... | 14:17 |
| davmor2 | camako: sudo snap install webbrowser-app --edge --devmode should of been enough, you'll need ubuntu-app-platform too and the link them but snap run webbrowser app will tell you how to do that | 14:18 |
| desrt | at this point, my "things to buy if i'm rich list" has one item: weekly/biweekly first class transatlantic ticket | 14:18 |
| camako | davmor2, ok I'm doing that | 14:18 |
| desrt | would be awesome to go to sleep on a plane on saturday night and be in the next place on sunday | 14:18 |
| desrt | (repeatedly) | 14:19 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:20 |
| desrt | (bonus points if money could also buy a way to convince airport security, once and for all, that i am not a terrorist... and i could just drive up to the plane and get in...) | 14:20 |
| desrt | i guess that has a name: "private jet" | 14:21 |
| * desrt dreams :) | 14:21 | |
| camako | davmor2, I have ubuntu-app-platform, and I installed webbrowser from the edge like you said... It installed ok, but gave me "snap "webbrowser-app" has bad plugs or slots: unity8 (unknown interface)" | 14:21 |
| davmor2 | camako: that's fine there is no unity8 socket currently but there will be one so people are future proofing their apps currently | 14:22 |
| camako | davmor2, ack | 14:23 |
| camako | davmor2, bingo! It runs under U7 with "snap run webbrowser-app" | 14:26 |
| camako | davmor2, so I had the icon under U8 but was missing the binaries this whole time? | 14:26 |
| davmor2 | camako: yeap in that case something fishy in unity8 then talk to osomon and annoy Saviq too (just cause it is fun ) :D | 14:27 |
| camako | davmor2, :-) will do thanks | 14:27 |
| davmor2 | camako: no mostly talk to osomon but I would imagine this is an issue with mir not browser :( | 14:27 |
| camako | .. or my system | 14:28 |
| alexarnaud | cking: Hey :) ! I reproduce the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1349740 | 14:50 |
| alexarnaud | What do you think it is a firmware issue? Firmware from Intel? | 14:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1349740 in linux (Ubuntu) "acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_ERROR); disabling ASPM" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:50 |
| cking | alexarnaud, the _OSC data is inside the ACPI firmware tables, so it's from the BIOS provider for your machine | 14:52 |
| cking | alexarnaud, run "sudo fwts --dump" and add the acpidump.log to the bug report and I can disassemble the firmware tables and see why the _OSC is doing that | 14:54 |
| alexarnaud | cking: OK, thanks for the advise :), I'll try to do that. I'm at the moment on Debian. | 14:56 |
| cking | alexarnaud, oh, run sudo acpidump > acpitables.log instead ;-) | 14:57 |
| alexarnaud | cking: could be possible the legacy mode the cause? | 14:57 |
| cking | alexarnaud, probably not (based on passed experience) | 14:58 |
| alexarnaud | I've replied on the bug report. It's a big mistake for me. | 15:10 |
| cking | alexarnaud, seems like your firmware is comparing against a specific UUID and it does not match, so it indicates and _OSC invalid UUID so the kernel is forced to ignore the capabilities | 15:42 |
| cking | s/and _OSC/an _OSC/ | 15:43 |
| alexarnaud | cking: what I could do for that? I have a Clevo W670RC. | 15:45 |
| cking | alexarnaud, i've updated the bug, try out my suggested workaround | 15:46 |
| alexarnaud | cking: Ok, thanks :). | 15:46 |
| seb128 | have a nice evening desktopers | 18:17 |
| ricotz | you too! :) | 18:18 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, any progress yet? | 18:18 |
| willcooke | night seb128 | 18:20 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi | 20:02 |
| willcooke | night all | 20:34 |
| willcooke | o/ | 20:34 |
| tedg_ | desrt: Do you know how GNOME Shell is knowing when to run an app under XWayland ? | 22:09 |
| tedg_ | desrt: Is it just doing it for all apps in /usr/share/applications ? | 22:10 |
| desrt | tedg_: xwayland is always running | 22:47 |
| desrt | tedg_: the future story there is along the lines of "systemd --user" + "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" + "socket activation" | 22:48 |
| desrt | there are already patches around to make libX11 talk to a socket in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR instead of /tmp | 22:48 |
| desrt | tedg_: basically, it's the usual gnome/systemd line of thinking... activation-on-first-use | 22:50 |
| tedg_ | desrt: Okay, are they planning to only have one per session then? I kinda looked and saw that, but I was surprised. | 23:16 |
| tedg_ | I don't think we want to go down that route, but it does solve a bunch of problem with figuring out what an app wants. | 23:17 |
| desrt | tedg_: systemd can do one-per-connection style of socket activation | 23:36 |
| desrt | i wouldn't be surprised if it also has some features to group by the cgroup of the incoming connection | 23:36 |
| desrt | i'm not saying they will do it that way, but it's a possibility | 23:37 |
| tedg_ | Huh, interesting. I didn't know that. Not sure we'll use it for Xmir, but that'll probably come in handy at some point. | 23:40 |
| tedg_ | Thanks desrt ! | 23:40 |
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