[09:05] <willcooke> morning all
[09:06] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you? feeling better?
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:07] <willcooke> hi seb128.  A bit, still not right though.  Had real actual flu, man.. it really knocked me down
[09:07] <willcooke> hey davmor2
[09:07] <willcooke> They've closed the local hospital because of a flu out-break there too, so I think it's "going round"
[09:07] <seb128> it's the season
[09:08] <seb128> real-flu sucks, I'm glad I just got a standard cold
[09:13] <didrocks> hey willcooke! I read that you were sick last week. Ah, so that was the flu… /me hugs you
[09:13] <didrocks> yeah, it seems the flu was quite (at least in France), violent here
[09:14] <willcooke> I knew Brexit was a good idea
[09:14] <didrocks> haha
[09:14] <didrocks> build a wall!
[09:14] <willcooke> XD
[09:16] <seb128> attente, stop working in the middle of the night on a sunday!
[09:17]  * seb128 just saw a launchpad bug being set to fix committed
[09:27] <willcooke> paracetamol time yay!
[09:35] <marga> Does anybody know if there is a reason why the ubuntu-themes package is not in Debian?
[09:37] <marga> The license is CC-BY-SA 3.0, which is accepted by Debian, so that's not it.  Is it just because it's called Ubuntu?
[09:39] <seb128> marga, it's probably just that nobody from Debian took interest in it
[09:39] <marga> That's surprising given how nice those themes are, but yeah, I was thinking that could be it.
[09:39] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers
[09:39] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[09:40] <flexiondotorg> seb128 Morning.
[09:40] <flexiondotorg> Have you recovered?
[09:40] <seb128> yes, I'm back to normal, thanks
[09:40] <seb128> a good w.e relaxing made wonders
[09:40] <flexiondotorg> I think I caught what you had via IRC.
[09:40] <seb128> oh, get better
[09:40] <seb128> I hope you got my version
[09:41] <flexiondotorg> I'll live :-)
[09:41] <seb128> not willcooke's one
[09:41] <flexiondotorg> Was wiped out on Saturday.
[09:41] <flexiondotorg> Feeling mostly human today.
[09:43] <didrocks> hey flexiondotorg!
[09:43] <flexiondotorg> Morning didrocks :-)
[09:43] <flexiondotorg> How's the family?
[09:44] <didrocks> very good, thanks! Trying to sleep whenever we can though :p
[09:44] <flexiondotorg> Yep, that is the best way.
[09:44] <willcooke> didrocks, are you back to work full time already?
[09:46] <didrocks> willcooke: yes, we only have 3 days off in France. I did add 5 holidays rescued from last year
[09:46] <willcooke> :(
[09:47] <willcooke> Thats strange, when you have so many other workers rights that you should get a tiny amount of parental leave
[09:48] <didrocks> yep… well, working from home, it's not that much of an issue
[10:22] <hikiko> hey, bzr question: is there an easy way to remove the changes of a specific revision of a branch only? for example if we have N revisions remove the changes of revno N-3 only and keep N-4 and N-2 to N?
[10:25] <seb128> hikiko, hey, there is no vcs-built-in way
[10:26] <seb128> hikiko, but you can bzr diff -c <rev> | patch -p0 -R
[10:26] <seb128> hikiko, or bzr merge -r n+1...n
[10:27] <hikiko> yeah, I think that was what I was looking for! thank you very much seb128
[10:27] <seb128> yw!
[12:24] <andyrock> hey all
[12:24] <willcooke> hi andyrock
[12:25] <hikiko> hi andyrock
[13:12] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, hello, do you have a timeframe for a lo 5.3.0.3 source package?
[13:22] <camako> alex-abreu, hi are you the right person to ask about the webbrowser-app under unity8 on the desktop? Mine is refusing to work. Does it require setup?
[13:26] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: on it
[13:28] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, great, thanks
[13:36] <alex-abreu> camako, hi, oSomon on #ubuntu-touch would be more in tune with the recent changes & statuses
[13:38] <camako> alex-abreu, thx
[13:52] <camako> alex-abreu, I'm not sure about oSoMoN's time zone, perhaps you can help. I was wondering why I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23893611/ under unity8 on the desktop.... Does webbrowser-app need any setup? Libertine?
[13:55] <davmor2> camako: what gfx stack are you on
[13:56] <camako> davmor2, I have mesa
[13:56] <davmor2> camako: on what hardware
[13:56] <camako> davmor2, intel gpu
[13:57] <davmor2> camako: right I'll see if I have the issue on intel software too.
[13:57] <camako> davmor2, I just saw your reply on the other channel.
[13:58] <camako> davmor2, it's not something that I use every day, so my setup might be wonky
[13:58] <camako> thought I'd ask before digging deeper
[13:58] <davmor2> camako: you should be able to checking unity7 if it runs by using snap run webbrowser-app
[13:59] <camako> I logged on to a U8 session and clicked on the icon
[13:59] <camako> davmor2, I'll try that
[14:00] <davmor2> camako: failing that it might be down to drivers which would suck :(
[14:01] <camako> davmor2, hmm I am still hoping it's something simple in my env that I'm missing... but yeah, it would
[14:01] <jbicha> Sweet5hark: do you want liborcus/libixion 0.12 to be synced from Debian experimental now?
[14:01] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: that would be awesome
[14:03] <seb128> Sweet5hark, how is that dmb application going btw? ;-)
[14:03] <desrt> hello peeps
[14:04] <ricotz> jbicha, thanks
[14:04] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, jbicha, maybe even hunspell?
[14:04] <seb128> hey desrt, had a good w.e?
[14:04] <davmor2> camako: so browser app is running here for me in unity7 so might be a unity8 specific issue of which there will likely be more than one :)
[14:05] <davmor2> camako: try opening another app in unity8 and seeing if that opens
[14:05] <desrt> yes. fairly good indeed.  spent saturday touring my family around the harbour, art galleries, good restaurants, botanical gardens, ice rinks, light shows, etc. of toronto as a 'goodbye' and then sunday went to another gallery, ice skating, and saw toni erdmann in the evening
[14:05] <camako> davmor2, yeah I've tried several and they open fine
[14:05] <desrt> (since if i see this film in germany, it will be in german, without subtitles) :p
[14:06] <camako> davmor2, trying on unity7 now
[14:06] <desrt> all in all, getting ready to leave soon.
[14:06] <desrt> seb128: how was your weekend?
[14:06] <davmor2> camako: over to osomon then :(
[14:08] <seb128> desrt, you had a pretty busy w.e! mine was way more relaxing, a bit of shopping, nice familly diner, watched the federer/nadal tennis game on sunday
[14:09] <seb128> desrt, when do you fly to europe?
[14:10] <desrt> seb128: gotta get in my last bits of toronto, while i still can!  ;)  i fly tomorrow evening.
[14:10] <seb128> desrt, enjoy toronto!
[14:11] <desrt> ;(
[14:11] <desrt> :~(
[14:12] <camako> davmor2, I am trying to install webbrowser-app as a snap but it's not liking the name... I'm using 'sudo snap install webbrowser-app'... Is that the correct way?
[14:12] <desrt> don't get me wrong... i love köln... but somehow being away from a place, tossed back into it for only 1.5 months, then away for a long time again... it helps one to appreciate how great it really is
[14:13] <davmor2> camako: if you are on the same system it should already be installed, if not you would need sudo snap install webbrowser-app --devmode --edge
[14:13] <camako> davmor2, yes I'm on the same system
[14:13] <camako> davmor2, but on the unity7 side
[14:14] <davmor2> camako: then run snap list if it is listed just run snap run webbrowser-app
[14:14] <camako> davmor2, it's not listed
[14:15] <davmor2> camako: so you would need the sudo snap install line from above then
[14:15] <camako> davmor2, yeah ... but I'm getting "error: cannot install "webbrowser-app": snap not found"
[14:16] <camako> ah I need to "snap download" it first
[14:16] <davmor2> camako: hmmm you should need to do that
[14:16] <seb128> desrt, yeah, I know the feeling, though a bit easier for me to go back and forth between places
[14:17] <desrt> indeed....
[14:18] <davmor2> camako: sudo snap install webbrowser-app --edge --devmode should of been enough, you'll need ubuntu-app-platform too and the link them but snap run webbrowser app will tell you how to do that
[14:18] <desrt> at this point, my "things to buy if i'm rich list" has one item: weekly/biweekly first class transatlantic ticket
[14:18] <camako> davmor2, ok I'm doing that
[14:18] <desrt> would be awesome to go to sleep on a plane on saturday night and be in the next place on sunday
[14:19] <desrt> (repeatedly)
[14:20] <seb128> yeah
[14:20] <desrt> (bonus points if money could also buy a way to convince airport security, once and for all, that i am not a terrorist... and i could just drive up to the plane and get in...)
[14:21] <desrt> i guess that has a name: "private jet"
[14:21]  * desrt dreams :)
[14:21] <camako> davmor2, I have ubuntu-app-platform, and I installed webbrowser from the edge like you said... It installed ok, but gave me "snap "webbrowser-app" has bad plugs or slots: unity8 (unknown interface)"
[14:22] <davmor2> camako: that's fine there is no unity8 socket currently but there will be one so people are future proofing their apps currently
[14:23] <camako> davmor2, ack
[14:26] <camako> davmor2, bingo! It runs under U7 with "snap run webbrowser-app"
[14:26] <camako> davmor2, so I had the icon under U8 but was missing the binaries this whole time?
[14:27] <davmor2> camako: yeap in that case something fishy in unity8 then talk to osomon and annoy Saviq too (just cause it is fun ) :D
[14:27] <camako> davmor2, :-) will do thanks
[14:27] <davmor2> camako: no mostly talk to osomon but I would imagine this is an issue with mir not browser :(
[14:28] <camako> .. or my system
[14:50] <alexarnaud> cking: Hey :) ! I reproduce the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1349740
[14:50] <alexarnaud> What do you think it is a firmware issue? Firmware from Intel?
[14:52] <cking> alexarnaud, the _OSC data is inside the ACPI firmware tables, so it's from the BIOS provider for your machine
[14:54] <cking> alexarnaud, run "sudo fwts --dump" and add the acpidump.log to the bug report and I can disassemble the firmware tables and see why the _OSC is doing that
[14:56] <alexarnaud> cking: OK, thanks for the advise :), I'll try to do that. I'm at the moment on Debian.
[14:57] <cking> alexarnaud, oh, run sudo acpidump > acpitables.log instead ;-)
[14:57] <alexarnaud> cking: could be possible the legacy mode the cause?
[14:58] <cking> alexarnaud, probably not (based on passed experience)
[15:10] <alexarnaud> I've replied on the bug report. It's a big mistake for me.
[15:42] <cking> alexarnaud, seems like your firmware is comparing against a specific UUID and it does not match, so it indicates and _OSC invalid UUID so the kernel is forced to ignore the capabilities
[15:43] <cking> s/and _OSC/an _OSC/
[15:45] <alexarnaud> cking: what I could do for that? I have a Clevo W670RC.
[15:46] <cking> alexarnaud, i've updated the bug, try out my suggested workaround
[15:46] <alexarnaud> cking: Ok, thanks :).
[18:17] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers
[18:18] <ricotz> you too! :)
[18:18] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, any progress yet?
[18:20] <willcooke> night seb128
[20:02] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hi
[20:34] <willcooke> night all
[20:34] <willcooke> o/
[22:09] <tedg_> desrt: Do you know how GNOME Shell is knowing when to run an app under XWayland ?
[22:10] <tedg_> desrt: Is it just doing it for all apps in /usr/share/applications ?
[22:47] <desrt> tedg_: xwayland is always running
[22:48] <desrt> tedg_: the future story there is along the lines of "systemd --user" + "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" + "socket activation"
[22:48] <desrt> there are already patches around to make libX11 talk to a socket in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR instead of /tmp
[22:50] <desrt> tedg_: basically, it's the usual gnome/systemd line of thinking... activation-on-first-use
[23:16] <tedg_> desrt: Okay, are they planning to only have one per session then? I kinda looked and saw that, but I was surprised.
[23:17] <tedg_> I don't think we want to go down that route, but it does solve a bunch of problem with figuring out what an app wants.
[23:36] <desrt> tedg_: systemd can do one-per-connection style of socket activation
[23:36] <desrt> i wouldn't be surprised if it also has some features to group by the cgroup of the incoming connection
[23:37] <desrt> i'm not saying they will do it that way, but it's a possibility
[23:40] <tedg_> Huh, interesting. I didn't know that. Not sure we'll use it for Xmir, but that'll probably come in handy at some point.
[23:40] <tedg_> Thanks desrt !