[00:00] <absurdist> i hope ubuntu moves to LLVM for their binary distro
[00:01] <norbert> hi, can someone check on Ubuntu - I'm on Mint myself - what Ubuntu says in response to: $ export|grep XDG_CONFIG_HOME
[00:03] <nique> nothing norbert...
[00:03] <norbert> hm, ok, thanks
[00:10] <bigLanky> I have 2 NVIDIA cards in my system and Im running 16.04
[00:10] <bigLanky> I am able to see the second monitor in my NVIDIA X Server settings, but in System->Display the monitor isn't listed there
[00:11] <bigLanky> do I need to install some other drivers for the 2 video cards to both work?
[00:11] <kk4ewt> bigLanky,  do they both use the same driver
[00:11] <bigLanky> no
[00:12] <kk4ewt> then good luck
[00:12] <kk4ewt> one driver or the other is going to work
[00:12] <bigLanky> that is what I am noticing
[00:12] <bigLanky> I have another card that is the same as my main, if I throw that in there then it would work OK?
[00:13] <kk4ewt> so  my advise is get 2 of the same card
[00:13] <bigLanky> ok, will do that
[00:13] <bigLanky> anything I should look out for there or should that be pretty straight forward?
[00:15] <kk4ewt> if they both use the same driver you shouldnt have any issues
[00:15] <bigLanky> ok sounds good
[00:15] <bigLanky> will let you know
[00:27] <backbox> hi there
[00:46] <Guest70234> Trying to install Ubuntu onto an external harddrive. Doing so to see if my friend's bluescreens is a virus or a hardware problem. Anything I should know about it or is it simply 'plug and play'?
[00:52] <Guest70234> Nevermind, found a guide on the Ubuntu page.
[01:00] <amitu> trying to install libinput-gestures in ubuntu 14.04 but first it requires me to add my user to the 'input' group which doesn't seem to exist /etc/group
[01:00] <amitu> should i just create the group?
[01:00] <amitu> using groupadd?
[01:01] <k1l_> if it doesnt exist already then create it with groupadd
[01:04] <amitu> ok did that but /dev/input/* is still owned by root:root. i guess i need to reboot, and maybe the existence of input group will cause it to add permissions to that
[01:10] <daniel331> hi all. my SO is having a problem with her ubuntu desktop where the system refuses to start up. it hangs after the startup menu with the recurring messages "created user slice", "started session", "removed user slice", over and over again. could this be related to a recent system update or the new wayland desktop? please help i've not seen this before and troubleshooting it has gone a bit beyond my ken...
[01:11] <k1l_> daniel331: ubuntu or any of the flavors dont use wayland yet. what system is that exactly?
[01:13] <daniel331>  its ubuntu gnome. I wasn't sure about wayland since I am actually a fedora user. google seemed to think it might be something to do with wayland, glad we can rule that out... :-)
[01:15] <k1l_> do you see the login screen? or when does the boot stop?
[01:15] <daniel331> no, no login screen. it freezes before X loads...
[01:16] <k1l_> can you change to tty1 and start the gdm service from there? sudo service gdm start /restart
[01:16] <daniel331> no, no access to TTYs. we have access to root shell via recovery mode tho !
[01:18] <daniel331> we're not sure what preceeded the problem. i suspect an update..
[01:19] <k1l_> can you look at the logs from recovery? because that output seems to be gnome related and not very specific
[01:20] <k1l_> maybe worth a shot is to make sure "WaylandEnable=false" is set /not commented on /etc/gdm/custom.conf or similar.
[01:21] <daniel331> aye, we just did that. i'll try to bring up the logs. which ones in particular are worth paying attention to? x.org.log?
[01:22] <k1l_> yes, xorg and syslog
[01:22] <daniel331> will do
[01:23] <grantwu> Does anyone know what these logs might mean? http://lpaste.net/8600874754171207680
[01:27] <k1l_> grantwu: its a log of those programs telling apparmor to not be bothered by it.
[01:27] <grantwu> k1l_: Any idea why it might appear?  The server is only running a weechat instance, which segfaulted around that time.  I doubt weechat is touching apparmor and the server isn't doing anything else
[01:29] <k1l_> grantwu: that should not be related. but that might show that there was some network issue/change when dhcp clients get activated
[01:29] <grantwu> I see
[01:37] <daniel331> hmm both syslog and xorg.log seem to have stuff related to the succesful boots to recovery mode. is there anything in particular I should / be grepping for?
[01:40] <hoverflow> Hi, quick question guys. Shouldn't I get prompted for passphrase when sshing to a server if my private key is stored encryped? It used to prompt me for the passphrase to decrypt my private key when sshing but not it stopped and I can't ssh to my server.
[01:40] <hoverflow> Can this be the problem?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> daniel331: A thought then, can you log into a guest account or a different DE ?
[01:50] <MuffinMedic> Hello. I restarted my server and now I have no "int" address in ifconfig - here is the output from systemctl when i try to restart the networking service - http://pastebin.com/q0caJnwi
[01:51] <MuffinMedic> and this is /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/Qz7ViHf6
[01:51] <camthesaxman> How do I set the default version of GCC? I have 4.6 and 5.1 installed, and I want it to use 5.1 when I type gcc. This has to work in scripts, so alias won't work.
[01:51] <ejat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23891178/ <-- is it safe to proceed ?
[01:53] <OerHeks> ejat, sure, and run 'sudo apt autoremove' for those orphan packages
[01:55] <Bashing-om> ejat: ^^ looks too like what is the be removed is to be replaced with upgraded packages .
[01:55] <ejat> new libreoffice includes the font ?
[01:56] <ejat> tried to look the 5.3 changlelog
[01:56] <ejat> doesnt mention about the font n etc
[01:58] <xangua> "the font"? ejat
[01:58] <daniel331> @Bashing-om I'm afraid not. The error appears before, or actually right at the start, of the gdm startup process. so i cant log into a different user thru the login screen...
[01:58] <ejat> fonts-stix <--
[01:58] <daniel331> ... i could install a different DE but that seems like a bad idea, from when i did that to my own systems in the past :-(
[02:00] <Bashing-om> MuffinMedic: The stsctl command indicates systemd as the initiate system . as uch in systemd the inteerface naming conventions are changed . no longer 'eth0' . what shows ' ifconfig ' for the interface name ?
[02:00] <budder> i'm having trouble understanding something. Can somebody please tell me which kernel version lubuntu 14.04 has? because it appears that later releases have older kernels, so i'm confused
[02:01] <MuffinMedic> Bashing-om: still eth0
[02:01] <MuffinMedic> one sec, i will post it
[02:01] <MuffinMedic> http://pastebin.com/5VVGbKXB
[02:01] <wedgie> budder: 3.13 if you haven't updeated the hardware enablement stack, and i believe 4.4 if you have
[02:02] <budder> wedgie: so what is the hardware enablement stack? I want the latest version of lubuntu withOUT the 4.x kernel
[02:02] <Bashing-om> daniel331: Concur on not adding a DE / what release is this again ? .. maybe boot to terminal, can try and start the GUI - see then what errors ?
[02:03] <Tahr-Poop> camthesaxman, man update-alternatives
[02:05] <Bashing-om> MuffinMedic: Humm that says you have no problem .. running ipv6 // can not say about ipv4, however .
[02:05] <MuffinMedic> yea Bashing-om , it's strange.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> !hwe | budder
[02:06] <wedgie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL
[02:07] <depi> dns gmh
[02:07] <budder> Bashing-om: thank you
[02:09] <Bashing-om> MuffinMedic: Sorry but I do not know how to split out the ipv4 networking .
[02:10] <pos> is there a jre installed with ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[02:11] <pos> there is libreoffice, so I had assumed there was a jre, but I can't find it
[02:11] <camthesaxman> Oh man, how I really hate the Debian alternatives system!
[02:11] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-8-jre
[02:11] <OerHeks> optional
[02:12] <FireStriker> hi
[02:15] <budder> thanks all for the help
[02:16] <MuffinMedic> thanks Bashing-om
[02:18] <Bashing-om> MuffinMedic: Not yet . Hang in here see what better brains advise . I can learn here also .
[02:26] <FireStriker> hi Bashing-om
[02:26] <MuffinMedic> i hope so Bashing-om , this is really bugging me
[02:26] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: Uh Huh ?
[02:28] <FireStriker> i have a scer la]to] that has a celeron N2830 2.41GHz and 2gb ram that im looking to u]grade. what linux do you think i should use. i have been recomaned mint, lubntu, xubuntu.
[02:29] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: All are good . try and see what you like :)
[02:30] <FireStriker> will cinnamon work nicely
[02:30] <FireStriker> also wht is the difence between star ubuntu and mint
[02:32] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: Can not comment on what I have not run . try and see for yourself what "you" like .
[02:33] <FireStriker> ok
[02:34] <FireStriker> i might download cinnamon and install a ubuntu base. does difenet de change the bot s]lash
[02:36] <clu3> #join mongodb
[02:47] <coffeeguy> hi what would i use in ubuntu to compile an app?
[02:50] <rmandev> k1l_: I went off some blogposts and activety of github commits/stars, choose weechat, in case you are curious. Last time I used IRC was 10 years ago when I used mIRC to connect to gamesurge to find Counter-Strike scrims or ring for a team fun stuff ;p
[02:50] <rmandev> k1l_: I was surfr1 before btw
[02:51] <cfhowlett> rmandev, welcome.  please ask your ubuntu question
[02:54] <kk4ewt> coffeeguy what app and are you sure its not already in the repos
[02:55] <coffeeguy> latest version of filezilla but you're right i don't need to use the source
[02:56] <coffeeguy> it's a standalone app
[02:56] <coffeeguy> Thanks for responding kk4ewt :D
[03:23] <morino> hello guys
[03:30] <PipeItToDevNull> morino: hi
[03:31] <morino> whats on her @PipeItToDevNull
[03:31] <PipeItToDevNull> Not much, bored mostly
[03:31] <PipeItToDevNull> you?
[03:32] <morino> nothing much. New here. You?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> can we keep the chitchat/socializing to #ubuntu-offtopic please?  thank you.
[03:32] <PipeItToDevNull> Sawy
[03:34] <sirv> cannot join offtopic 04:33 [477 (ErrorNoChannelModes) #ubuntu-offtopic] Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[03:36] <Bashing-om> !register | sirv
[03:36] <morino> please who knows of any platforms for developers or programmers
[03:36] <rmandev> I currently have a bug with 16.04 desktop LTS  where the docker outline and  main view outline remains. This is a first and I have not tried to re-create the bug yet because that would involve a restart :\. Has anyone encountered the ghost docker outline bug before? http://imgur.com/a/loIej
[03:39] <rmandev> better view of it while using chrome: http://imgur.com/a/28f1h
[03:43] <morino> oh guys please help
[03:45] <Bashing-om> !alis | morino
[03:46] <PianoSkulls> how do i disable the send to trash confirm dialogue? Xubuntu
[03:49] <mman> @PianoSkulls http://askubuntu.com/questions/465880/how-to-send-files-to-the-trash-can-without-the-confirmation-dialog
[03:51] <sirv> morino what is ur problem ?
[03:51] <PianoSkulls> mman I don't have that option in Xubuntu file manager, thats why i'm asking
[03:52] <sirv> morino > u can choose any platform
[03:52] <sirv> morino > my friend develops php+mysql applications on ubuntu
[03:53] <mman> PianoSkulls, I always press shift + del and it doesn't even go to the trash :)
[03:53] <morino> I just need help with any programming group @sirv
[03:54] <PianoSkulls> mman I'm deleting pictures and I need them to go to trash quickly so that I can sift through them quickly. And recover them if i accidently delete one i like
[03:55] <mman> PianoSkulls, what if you send them first to another folder and then delete the complete folder once you are sure they should go?
[03:55] <priporg> hi, how to check if i have printer driver installed?
[03:56] <sirv> morino > did u try suse ?
[03:56] <PianoSkulls> mman thats fine
[03:56] <PianoSkulls> mman how?
[03:56] <GuestABC123> Hello just checking to see if you can remove the IP addresses from the screen?
[03:57] <GuestABC123> Just checking I saw everyone's IP address on here and was not sure
[03:57] <PrincessBob> no
[03:57] <PrincessBob> unless you get a vpn
[03:57] <mman> PianoSkulls, I would just open two windows. 1) with the pictures you want to delete 2)with a new folder for the "temporary trash".. then I would place them next to each other and just drag and drop them from 1) to 2)
[03:58] <PrincessBob> irc is older than the modern internet.... so its rather un privacy friendly
[03:58] <bigLanky> I have x2 Nvidia GTX 1050 ti cards in my computer... I have the updated drivers installed on 16.04
[03:58] <GuestABC123> Does that matter? Asking because I thought anyone with no so good intentions can use you IP? Thats all
[03:58] <bigLanky> however, when I go into Display, I only see the main monitor from video card 1
[03:58] <GuestABC123> Wow I can't type sorry.
[03:58] <bigLanky> the other 2 monitors connected to the second card dont show
[03:58] <bigLanky> is there a trick to get both cards to work?
[03:58] <morino> i dont have that @sirv
[03:59] <sirv> morino and currently u have what >
[03:59] <GuestABC123> Anyone?
[04:00] <PrincessBob> i answered you Guest41540
[04:00] <PrincessBob> ermm GuestABC123
[04:00] <cp5> hi, can someone help me figure out why i can't connect two machines together via a cross over on ubuntu 16.04 server
[04:00] <cfhowlett> cp5, consider asking #ubuntu-server?
[04:01] <cp5> k, thx
[04:01] <pavlos> cp5, could you just create 2 static ip's?
[04:02] <sisyphus> bigLanky: Does the nVidia proprietary configurator GUI program show both the cards?
[04:02] <sirv> cp5 > crossover cable ?
[04:02] <bigLanky> yeah
[04:02] <sisyphus> the program is called nvidia-settings
[04:03] <sirv> cp5 > u need to manually configure networking, static ips
[04:03] <bigLanky> I have Nvidia X Server Settings
[04:03] <morino> i have kali, Backbox. All re installed in VM
[04:03] <cp5> sirv > yea did that, but the boxes have two network cards on them.  one to the internet on dhcp, second one internally crossed over to each other
[04:03] <sisyphus> bigLanky: yeah, that's the pne - does it show two cards and the respective monitors?
[04:04] <cp5> sirv > got the ips all set but just can't ping across the second interface
[04:04] <bigLanky> yes - https://s28.postimg.org/to54spq0t/nvidia1.png
[04:05] <bigLanky> the other 2 monitors were set to disabled, and I have an option to set configuration to 'X Screen 1' or create a new X screen
[04:05] <sisyphus> bigLanky: Yes - I see it. You probably need to enable Xinerama? - see the checkbox
[04:05] <bigLanky> ok let me check
[04:05] <sirv> route add internalIP1 internalInterface1 .... or something similiar .. on both machines
[04:05] <sisyphus> bigLanky: Add to the same screen
[04:06] <sirv> route add -host 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth1
[04:06] <bigLanky> vid card 1 is set to X Screen 0, then the other card monitors I can set to X Screen 1
[04:06] <rmandev> in case anyone is curious running "compiz --replace" fixed my issue and it was probably caused by some silly hacky stuff i did that affected compiz.
[04:06] <bigLanky> do I need to enable Xinerama on all 3?
[04:06] <sirv> and on the second machine change 1.2 to 1.1 and 1.1. to 1.2
[04:06] <bigLanky> nevermind, it applies to all
[04:07] <sisyphus> bigLanky: Xinerama is a setting that merges the different monitor areas into one large 'virtual screen'. So I guess you should join all 3 with Xinerama assuming that is the behavior you want
[04:07] <bigLanky> yeah that is what i am trying to accomplish
[04:08] <sisyphus> bigLanky: so, click Xinerama, check and if OK accept new settings and save new xorg.conf file
[04:09] <cp5> sirv: yea had that previously
[04:09] <sirv> did u try traceroute
[04:10] <sirv> show us your route list
[04:10] <cp5> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eno1  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.13
[04:10] <cp5> 192.168.100.0/24 dev ens1f0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.100.40
[04:10] <cp5> 192.168.100.30 via 192.168.100.1 dev ens1f0
[04:11] <cp5> PING 192.168.100.30 (192.168.100.30) from 192.168.100.40 ens1f0: 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:11] <cp5> From 192.168.100.40 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[04:12] <cp5> wouldn traceroute just go straight to the ip?  ie single hop?
[04:13] <cp5> sirv:  netstat -rn
[04:13] <cp5> Kernel IP routing table
[04:13] <cp5> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
[04:13] <cp5> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eno1
[04:13] <cp5> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eno1
[04:13] <cp5> 192.168.100.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 ens1f0
[04:16] <sirv> cp5 yes it should go in one hop wia crossover
[04:18] <cp5> sirv: yea but basically did all that, ip route also shows that the links are connected
[04:18] <cp5> sirv:  but just can't ping the nic on the other computer
[04:18] <sirv> interfaces on both machines are 100mbit  ?
[04:19] <cp5> sirv: gigabite but yes
[04:19] <sirv> cp5 how does ip route show they are connected ?
[04:19] <cp5> 192.168.100.40 via 192.168.100.1 dev ens1f0 on box 1, and 192.168.100.30 via 192.168.100.1 dev ens1f0 on box two
[04:20] <sirv> what is 100.1 ?
[04:20] <cp5> gateway
[04:20] <cp5> shall i set the gate way to the other box's ip?
[04:20] <sirv> gateway needs to be the interface itself .. also on the 100.40 machine the gateway is 100.40
[04:21] <sirv> there is no 100.1 machine/interface in your network as i understand correctly
[04:21] <cp5> yea thats' right
[04:22] <sirv> try that
[04:23] <cp5> sirv: you sir, are awesome
[04:24] <sirv> ;)
[04:24] <cp5> sirv: cant say anything except duh.  kinda obvious now i'm staring at it
[04:24] <sirv> i have cisco
[04:24] <sirv> CCNA
[04:24] <cp5> sirv:  I have two young ones making sur ei dont get enough sleep =)
[04:24] <sirv> that was good invested money
[04:25] <cp5> haha good call
[04:25] <sirv> i have also to little ones .... cats
[04:25] <sirv> *two
[04:26] <budder> can anyone here help with me debian?
[04:27] <cp5> sirv: heh, cats would have been simpler.  man ... i literally had what you said in my interfaces file.  i think what happened was i forgot to flush it before bringing it up.
[04:29] <sirv> cp5 yes there were inconsistencies in what u pasted
[04:30] <sirv> cp5 women should take care of kids
[04:31] <Bashing-om> budder: debian has their own channel for help . This channel is devoted to ubuntu support .
[04:31] <cp5> sirv: they were throwing baseballs at the server earlier ;-)
[04:31] <sirv> cp5 they know exactly what they do .. they are little prats
[04:32] <sirv> cp5 if i would have children i would beat them
[04:32] <cp5> sirv: maybe if this channel wasn't logged!
[04:36] <bigLanky> anyone have experience running x2 NVIDIA cards?
[05:00] <phiona> When i run phatch it seems to only display the logo and nothing more. why? im on Lubuntu 16.04.
[05:02] <sirv> phiona > are there any log files ?
[05:04] <sirv> phiona > i read that it is a known BUG, so probably there is nothing u can do right now
[05:05] <phiona> sirv: i dont know. where do we find log files?
[05:05] <sirv> ok but the bug was fixed i read
[05:05] <sirv> try to update the phatch package to newest version
[05:06] <phiona> sirv: it is already the newest version.
[05:07] <sirv> are u sure ? do here u can read about th problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phatch/+bug/1567827
[05:13] <phiona> sirv: tried to install patch and terminal says phatch is already the newest version (0.2.7.1-3.1).
[05:13] <sirv> phiona ok ,... u need the version 0.2.7.1-4  .. it specifically fixes your bug
[05:15] <sirv> ok .. are u in console ?
[05:16] <sirv> there are 3 links at the bottom of the page : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phatch/0.2.7.1-4/+build/10629617
[05:16] <sirv> u download the 3 dep files
[05:16] <sirv> *deb
[05:16] <sirv> like "wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phatch/0.2.7.1-4/+build/10629617/+files/phatch-cli_0.2.7.1-4_all.deb"
[05:17] <sirv> and then install them 'sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[05:17] <sirv> u have that in 1 minute
[05:22] <phiona> sirv:  i have downloaded the three files. should i install them one by one with gdebi??
[05:22] <sirv> phiona ... yes try that
[05:23] <sirv> maybe just maybe you have to remove the existing packages before , but if it works without removeing then fine
[05:25] <amity> yo
[05:26] <Noobish> Hello, I'm attempting to boot Ubuntu from an ext hard drive. The install went off without a hitch but when I attempt to boot from the hard drive it gives me this error: Error: File '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found. Then it prompts me with a "grub rescue>" command prompt. Any ideas on what to do now?
[05:26] <amity> we can see that type
[05:26] <amity> exit
[05:27] <xXEoflaOEXx> Noobish, Do you have your second computer?
[05:28] <Noobish> No, it is at my friend's house. I'm booting it all up from this computer I'm on.
[05:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> Noobish, It seems that GRUB is not installed properly. Boot to Live CD then check your external hard drive with fdisk -l. What output does it give you?
[05:30] <Noobish> What do you mean "Boot to Live CD"? xXEoflaOEXx
[05:31] <sirv> u need to connect that external harddrive to a working linux installation a reinstall grub on the external harddrive
[05:31] <sirv> is that an USB or ESATA or what kind
[05:31] <sirv> *working linux machine
[05:32] <xXEoflaOEXx> Noobish, It means insert your Ubuntu Live CD into your CD-ROM drive then go to BIOS boot menu and select CD-ROM, then select Try Ubuntu without installing, it should give you a desktop, then open the terminal and check the external disk with fdisk -l.
[05:32] <Noobish> It's a USB fat23 external hard drive, sirv.
[05:32] <Noobish> xXEoflaOEXx: I will get back to you in a few moments with the answer.
[05:33] <Noobish> Let me switch to my phone.
[05:33] <sirv> phiona did it work for u ?
[05:35] <Noobish> Remind me the command please.
[05:36] <xXEoflaOEXx> noobish, fdisk -l
[05:36] <xXEoflaOEXx> Noobish, and paste the output to pastebin.
[05:37] <phiona> sirv: yes thanks. it took long because i didnt know we have to install the files in order. thanks.
[05:38] <sirv> phiona i did not know that also
[05:39] <phiona> sirv: well now u know.
[05:39] <sirv> phiona > when i have problems with my linux installation, i usually just do a complete reinstall with the latest distribution
[05:40] <phiona> sirv: gdebi give us errors about dependencies.
[05:40] <Noobish2> http://pastebin.com/d9tAdB1e
[05:41] <sirv> phiona > i'am surprised that Ubuntu did not release a patch for this application for your 16.04 version
[05:41] <sirv> sirv > it should have automatically updated .. very strange why they did not do it
[05:41] <sirv> in 16.10 it is fixed
[05:42] <sirv> 16.10 has latest version in the repository
[05:42] <Noobish2> Ubuntu version 16.04.1 - Prossibly relevant.
[05:43] <sirv> noobish > i was talking to phiona ;)
[05:43] <Noobish2> sirv: I know, it just reminded me I never put in the version number.
[05:43] <_0x7f_> @Noobish2 sudo su -
[05:44] <phiona> sirv: probably bcoz im still on 16.04
[05:44] <sirv> phiona > but it is not good behaviour from Canonical they did not update repository for 16.04 ... 16.04 is long term support for years .. and your application did not even start how can that be ...
[05:45] <sirv> phiona > the bug is there for months, from the beginning
[05:45] <Noobish2> http://pastebin.com/U4fBuXbc xXEoflaOEXx _0x7f_
[05:46] <phiona> sirv: maybe they forgot. haha.
[05:48] <sirv> phiona > maybe not enough users use that phatch application . never heard of it before
[05:49] <sirv> noobish so the external usb drive is 1TB right ?
[05:49] <Noobish2> Yes.
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> phiona: try to follow-up your own bug, more change that it will get solved
[05:49] <Noobish2> Live CD is 8 gigs. 2 other drives - 500gigs and 100gigs.
[05:50] <Mr_Cyclops> How good/bad is the idea of having a RAID-1 using two external USB Hard Drives?
[05:50] <sirv> noobish so now u can follow these instructions, it is just like 10 commands u need to run http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[05:50] <phiona> lotuspsychje: it is already solved.
[05:50] <sirv> noobish > the external usb drive is /dev/sdc1
[05:51] <Noobish2> Thanks sirv!
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: usb hard drives are a bottleneck for speed over usb
[05:52] <sirv> why do u install it on external drive anyway ? .. it is best to install to internal
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: perhaps the ##hardware guys can more help you on this?
[05:52] <Noobish2> sirv - I'm making a temporary computer for my friend while his real computer is being repaired.
[05:52] <Mr_Cyclops> lotuspsychje, true, what if the speed isn't an issue (I don't have much to backup regularly), but just that I have enough external HDDs, so .... a random thought?
[05:53] <sirv> cyclops > very bad to use usb drives for system or for raid .... u will get data corruption or loss soon .... my personal experience
[05:53] <Mr_Cyclops> sirv, Ouch .....
[05:53] <sirv> cyclops > also for backups ... i dont trust USB .. they sometime put low quality drives in USB enclosures
[05:53] <Mr_Cyclops> I heard even the NAS solutions like Synology etc. use Linux MDM in the backend?
[05:54] <Mr_Cyclops> sirv, what would be your personal suggestion on that end?
[05:54] <Noobish2> Sirv - I did the first command and nothing happened. Was nothing supposed to happen?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: lets stick to ubuntu issues in this channel only
[05:55] <sirv> noobish > it is ok .. but u ised /dev/sdc1 right ?
[05:55] <Noobish2> Yes sirv
[05:56] <sirv> cyclops > i dont really know ... but i'am just very cautios with usb drives .. i had big data loss because i trusted usb backup
[05:56] <sirv> cyclop > the WD usb drive failed compeletely on me ,,, without any warning signs
[05:57] <sirv> cyclops > but there is OS for NAS systems .. u can build your own nas
[05:57] <Mr_Cyclops> I see, sirv thanks for sharing your experience. Looks like having 2 sets of backup is important (provided what kind of data you got)
[05:57] <Mr_Cyclops> fail-safe for a fail-safe
[05:58] <sirv> cyclops > and i would go or ZFS filesystem
[05:58] <Mr_Cyclops> ZFS .... good recovery option(s) ?
[05:58] <Noobish2> sirv - when I do grub-install /dev/sdX do I put sdc1 or just sdc?
[05:59] <sirv> just sdc
[05:59] <Noobish2> Thanks
[06:00] <sirv> cyclops ... hmm .. a drive can fail, or more drives , depending on configuration ... and the system can recover
[06:01] <sirv> cyclops > but u can add drives anytime with ZFS .. u just throw in aniother drive without any rebuilding of the system
[06:03] <sirv> cyclops > anything is better than having an USB RAID solution
[06:03] <Noobish2> Okay I messed up somewhere and now I can't restart. sudo mount /dev/dsc1 returns with mount: can't find /dev/dsc1 in /etc/fstab
[06:03] <sirv> sdc1
[06:03] <sirv> not dsc1
[06:03] <Noobish2> .... Right.
[06:04] <_0x7f_> @Noobish2 sudo mkdir /mnt/usb ; sudo mount /dev/dsc1 /mnt/usb
[06:04] <_0x7f_> is it /dev/dsc1 !!!!
[06:05] <_0x7f_> is should /dev/sdc1 or /dev/sdb1
[06:05] <sirv> sdc1 is the drive he installed ubuntu on
[06:05] <sirv> SDC1
[06:05] <Noobish2> sdc1
[06:05] <Noobish2> Yes
[06:05] <_0x7f_> yup
[06:06] <Noobish2> Special device /devsdc1 does not exist.
[06:06] <_0x7f_> run that cmmand !
[06:06] <_0x7f_> sudo fdisk -l
[06:06] <_0x7f_> lsusb
[06:06] <Noobish2> fdisk -lsusb?
[06:07] <sirv> noobish u are doing the --bind commands ? there u do not use the drive .. there u use already the mounter folder /mnt/...
[06:07] <chandan> Hi all, Even after invoking "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", i still have a 4.4 kernel on my ubuntu 16.04.1 machine
[06:07] <chandan> How can i upgrade to a 4.8 kernel?
[06:07] <xangua> !hwe
[06:08] <xangua> chandan: see above
[06:08] <_0x7f_> @chandan uname -a ????
[06:09] <Noobish2> http://pastebin.com/qxEHNE4r sirv
[06:10] <_0x7f_> @chandan pest the output , uname -a ; uname -; arch; cat /etc/issue
[06:11] <chandan> _0x7f_: It is a ppc64le machine. I am not sure if i am allowed to paste the output of 'uname -a' ... but here is 'uname -r' ...
[06:11] <chandan> root@Ubuntu-16:~# uname -r
[06:11] <chandan> 4.4.0-59-generic
[06:11] <chandan> xangua: I will read up that wiki page
[06:11] <Noobish2> chandan - when in doubt, use pastebin.
[06:12] <chandan> Noobish2: I think you misunderstood my prev statement. I don't think i am allowed to share the output of 'uname -a'. Hence i shared the output of 'uname -r'
[06:13] <Noobish2> Oh okay.
[06:14] <koen_> what is system specific cron
[06:14] <koen_> what is the cron that resides in /var/spool/cron
[06:15] <koen_> and what is the difference between that and /etc/crontab
[06:16] <Noobish2> I accidentally knocked off my ext hard drive, will that do anything?
[06:18] <chandan> xangua: "apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial" gives me a newer 4.4 kernel and not the 4.8 kernel
[06:18] <_0x7f_> @koen_ do not use /etc/crontab , it's used by system most of time. and the system will rewrite your configuration, if you write somthing /etc/crontab
[06:18] <xangua> chandan: try with yakketty
[06:18] <chandan> ok
[06:19] <xangua> 16.10
[06:19] <xangua> !16.10
[06:19] <koen_> _0x7f_: so whenever i create cron,i use this command crontab -e.. does this write in /etc/crontab or from /var/spool/cron
[06:19] <xangua> "yakkety" I mean chandan
[06:19] <chandan> ok
[06:20] <sirv> noobish ... if u cannot install Ubuntu on internal drive, maybe it is better for your friend just to use the LIVE version
[06:20] <sirv> noobish > when u boot the live version u can do a suspend and the again wake the computer, or he can boot the live cd everyday
[06:20] <sirv> leave him with the CD in the drive
[06:21] <Noobish2> Can he save thigns on the live CD?
[06:21] <_0x7f_> @ Kone_ /var/spool/cron it's cron default pool location
[06:21] <sirv> to the external harddrive for example yes
[06:22] <Noobish2> Alright, thanks for your help sirv!
[06:23] <Xz> hi there, question about Ubuntu live system
[06:24] <Xz> I want to build persistent version - does it use squashfs, or some .iso image?
[06:25] <_0x7f_> @Xz .ISO
[06:25] <Xz> _0x7f_: can I force to use another partition on USB stick instead of ISO?
[06:26] <Xz> _0x7f_: I'm assuming I would have to modify initrd.lz
[06:26] <_0x7f_> it's not work like that
[06:26] <_0x7f_> @Xz
[06:26] <Xz> _0x7f_: well, initrd.lz mounts that iso and then chroots into it, right?
[06:26] <_0x7f_> dd you iso
[06:28] <_0x7f_> @Xz
[06:28] <_0x7f_> dd if=kali-linux-2016.2-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=64M
[06:29] <_0x7f_> read start _ < <(du -bcm kali-linux-2016.2-amd64.iso | tail -1); echo $start
[06:29] <_0x7f_> parted /dev/sdb mkpart primary $start $end
[06:29] <Xz> _0x7f_: well, I want to use live distro
[06:29] <_0x7f_> yes
[06:29] <Xz> _0x7f_: with small modification of having rootfs as a partition instead of iso
[06:30] <tyro_1> I'm a complete newbie to Ubuntu. What are some of the coolest commands I should know?
[06:30] <Xz> tyro_1: poweroff
[06:30] <_0x7f_> @Xz need more info.....
[06:30] <Xz> _0x7f_: what do you mean?
[06:30] <noobish_> I figured out what was wrong. The sd number changed from sdc to sde
[06:31] <_0x7f_> @Xz what you trying to do.......
[06:32] <Xz> _0x7f_: I have very specific setup that boots in UEFI secure mode and I need to install Ubuntu on USB stick
[06:32] <Xz> _0x7f_: I already tried installing regular Ubuntu (not live version) on that stick, but UEFI doesn't boot that
[06:32] <Xz> _0x7f_: I can only get USB-live distro to boot on my machine
[06:33] <Xz> _0x7f_: so I want to customize USB-live distro to have permanent partition with rootfs on it instead of using squashfs/iso
[06:34] <_0x7f_> okayyyy...@Xz it's look i need to work on that.......
[06:34] <Xz> _0x7f_: well, it shouldn't be too dificult, right?
[06:35] <noobish_> sirv - I got it!
[06:35] <noobish_> Gonna try restarting to see if it worked.
[06:35] <Xz> _0x7f_: I could first create USB-live permanent stick, then dd the ISO that it created onto another partition and then modify initrd.lz to a) not mount that iso, b) mount another partition instead, c) chroot into that
[06:37] <Noobish> Hmm... Still getting the grub rescue
[06:41] <Noobish> It's behaving like grub didnt intsall at all
[06:42] <bigLanky> anyone run x2 NVIDIA cards on Ubuntu 16.04?
[06:46] <_0x7f_> @Noobish your MBR is gone !!!!!!!
[06:47] <_0x7f_> .
[07:15] <alireza> a
[07:15] <alireza> salam
[07:31] <samsara> Hello
[07:31] <samsara> anyone here
[07:32] <samsara> I am new
[07:32] <sisyphus> samsara: what do you need?
[07:32] <Guest68104> just trying this
[07:32] <Guest68104> what is this irc for
[07:33] <sirv> chatting about various stuff
[07:33] <sisyphus> This IRC is to discuss Ubuntu Linux operating system
[07:33] <Guest68104> cool
[07:33] <Guest68104> do you guys talk about Kali apps?
[07:34] <sirv> nope, just ubuntu
[07:34] <Guest68104> ok
[07:34] <sirv> and recipes
[07:34] <Genuine> hi
[07:34] <Guest68104> is there a way in ubuntu to use itunes?  wine doesnt do it for m,e
[07:34] <Guest68104> hi
[07:35] <sisyphus> Guest68104: Don't know. Probably not.
[07:35] <Guest68104> Hi
[07:36] <Genuine> do you know the page that shows all ubuntu distros?
[07:37] <Guest68104> probably not...
[07:37] <Guest68104> I am pretty new
[07:37] <Genuine> same
[07:38] <Genuine> it'll take me sometime to completely move to linux
[07:38] <Guest68104> same for me
[07:39] <unk> Use virtual box
[07:39] <unk> or some other container
[07:39] <Guest68104> how do you change the irc name? lol
[07:39] <Guest68104> guest doesnt do it for me
[07:39] <Genuine> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[07:39] <Genuine> found the page
[07:39] <Genuine> all of these ubuntu flavours support the same hardware?
[07:39] <Guest68104> cool
[07:40] <Guest68104> yes, I got ubuntu studio
[07:40] <Guest68104> it is awesome
[07:40] <Guest68104> got feed up by microsofts fees
[07:40] <Genuine> Guest68104, you change ur name before you enter other ways idk how xD
[07:40] <Guest68104> and updates
[07:40] <Guest68104> so now love this
[07:40] <Genuine> yeah i liked ubuntu studio too.
[07:40] <Guest68104> Thanks Genuine
[07:41] <Genuine> there should be ubuntu gaming :P
[07:41] <Genuine> Fedora is doing that
[07:41] <Guest68104> nice
[07:41] <Guest68104> what made you switch to ubuntu?
[07:42] <Genuine> no privacy on on microsoft and android
[07:42] <Guest92221> /msg nickserv help
[07:42] <Genuine> apple is too expensive
[07:42] <Guest68104> lol
[07:42] <Guest68104> I agree
[07:42] <Guest68104> so true
[07:43] <Genuine> i still have windows 10 on my main pc but im starting the move with this pc
[07:43] <Guest68104> haveyou tried ricochet IM?
[07:43] <Guest68104> I went cold turky with my switch
[07:43] <Guest68104> it has been interesting
[07:43] <Guest68104> happy so far
[07:44] <Genuine> lol nice
[07:44] <Genuine> i cant do that since there are games i still want to play
[07:44] <Guest68104> what do you play?
[07:44] <Guest68104> lol
[07:44] <Genuine> astroneer, kf2, CoD and other games
[07:44] <Guest68104> cool
[07:45] <Guest68104> I was playing call of duty today\
[07:45] <Guest68104> PS4
[07:45] <Genuine> not the last edition i hope. that was just bad.
[07:45] <Guest68104> lol
[07:45] <Guest68104> so you come to IRC often?
[07:46] <Genuine> no but i might because i have questions..
[07:46] <Genuine> once im here i forget my questions tho..
[07:46] <Guest68104> good idea
[07:46] <Genuine> how about u?
[07:47] <Guest68104> I am playing to visit
[07:47] <Guest68104> seem scool
[07:48] <Guest68104> you are cool
[07:48] <Guest68104> next time I would pick a better name...not too cool to be guest
[07:48] <Guest68104> lol
[07:48] <ducasse> this channel is not for chatting, but ubuntu support only. if you want to chat, please register and do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <Guest68104> ok good to know
[07:49] <hateball> !register | Guest68104
[07:49] <Genuine> i will pm you guest
[07:52] <Genuine> do all ubuntu flavours support the same hardware?
[07:55] <Genuine> if possible can someone direct me to which cpu architecture is supported by which ubuntu flavour?
[07:56] <hateball> Genuine: The same kernel is used in all flavors
[07:57] <Genuine> thank you very much. are ARM 32/64 architectures supported?
[07:57] <hateball> Genuine: But you have the option of using alternative kernels, like lowlatency for audio work etc
[07:57] <hateball> !arm
[07:58] <hateball> hmmm, that is quite old
[07:58] <Xz> hi there, I just installed ubuntu full installation on USB stick; installer made UEFI partition (fat32) with stuff on it. However, my USB stick doesn't show up on UEFI boot menu. I have secure boot on. How do I debug this?
[07:58] <Genuine> what would you say the lightest ubuntu distro is?
[07:59] <Xz> also, funny observation is that LIVE Ubuntu boots fine on the same system. And LIVE Ubuntu has different UEFI partition
[08:00] <hateball> Genuine: Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[08:00] <hateball> Genuine: You can just pick DE at login time, there's no need for reinstalls or such
[08:00] <hateball> It's just a matter of what comes installed by default
[08:01] <Genuine> sweet, i was thinking of buying a celeron based laptop then install a light ubuntu distro in this case xubuntu or lubuntu..
[08:01] <Genuine> i've had a problem with this in the past though.
[08:01] <Delphin> hey guys, I have a problem with OpenVPN on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, for some reason when I go to the top "VPN Connections" and select one, it does not even try to connect, and disconnect is not highlightable either :/
[08:03] <hateball> Genuine: Google $model + ubuntu and you'll quickly see if people have had issues. With laptops it's usually crappy wifi drivers or things like backlight control, but in general you'll probably be fine with whatever
[08:05] <Genuine> seems like a problem with the newer kernels
[08:07] <Genuine> i will look into older ubuntu distros with older kernels.. is there a specific date for a new ubuntu release? not supported for nine months but for four years or around that.
[08:07] <ducasse> Genuine: lts support is 5 years
[08:08] <hateball> Genuine: the next LTS is 18.04
[08:08] <hateball> So you'll be waiting a while
[08:08] <ducasse> Genuine: also, version numbers are year.month, so 14.04 was released in april 2014
[08:10] <Xz> is there anybody here who understands secure boot?
[08:10] <Xz> I'm struggling with Ubuntu install
[08:10] <Xz> I'm booting fine USB-LIVE, but I cannot boot USB-FULL install
[08:10] <Genuine> oh thats alright, but thanks a lot :)
[08:10] <Genuine> i'll stick with 16.04 for now
[08:12] <Genuine> what's the difference between alternate installer and desktop edition? like 16.04.1 and 16.04
[08:12] <sharpi> Xz, error messages?
[08:12] <nukeu666> i added some enc variables as a new sh file in profile.d, do i need to relogin for it to be read?
[08:13] <ducasse> Genuine: the alternate installer is text-based, based on the debian installer. more options etc.
[08:15] <Genuine> got it, thanks.
[08:34] <Aquaholic> Hello?
[08:35] <geirha> nukeu666: yes
[08:36] <sirv> hello
[08:37] <khfeng_> Xz: IIRC USB UEFI boot requires MBR instead of GPT, probably the installer make the USB GPT
[08:42] <Xz> khfeng_: well, let me check that
[08:42] <CIclops> Hi, I have two HDDs on my 14.04.5 system, one now has 9 bad sectors so it should be taken offline. The bad disk has the system mounted and the active swap. I moved swap to the good disk with Disks ok. Is it possible to move the system onto the good disk?
[08:44] <ikevin> CIclops, from a live session you can use dd to copy from the bad disk to the good one
[08:44] <ikevin> just need to create an identical partition
[08:45] <CIclops> ikevin, sounds good, does dd do all that?
[08:45] <ikevin> CIclops, it do a blocks copy
[08:45] <CIclops> ok
[08:47] <CIclops> is there an easier program to use
[08:47] <noc_> if there are bad sectors on the partition, won't dd fail with IO error at some point?
[08:48] <alkisg> There's ddrescue which retries bad blocks a few times only, and continues on errors
[08:48] <ikevin> noc_, it depend if IO come from FS error or hw error
[08:49] <ikevin> CIclops, you can use rsync too
[08:49] <alkisg> i don't think dd reads file systems, it reads blocks...
[08:49] <ikevin> alkisg, that why fs errors are not a problem for dd :)
[08:49] <alkisg> right
[08:50] <sirv> but that is not enough, the new disk needs MBR also
[08:51] <ikevin> sirv, it depend if dd is used to copy full disk or only one parition
[08:51] <ikevin> partition*
[08:51] <CIclops> the new disk has an MBR
[08:52] <ikevin> CIclops, does the new disk contain any data partition?
[08:52] <CIclops> i wanted to install the system on the new disk but somehow it ended up on the old one
[08:53] <CIclops> ikevin, yes one big partition and a swap
[08:53] <sirv> clops u say u have 14.04 .. why not just do a fresh 16.10 install ? u have any important data or configuration on the old system
[08:53] <anddam> is it possible to have python3 in 16.10 to be 3.6?
[08:53] <ikevin> CIclops, dd if=/dev/old_disk of=/dev/new_disk will copy the entire disk (partition table and mbr are included), so this will drop existing partition/datas
[08:53] <midnight> hello
[08:53] <anddam> I mean in a "legit" way
[08:54] <CIclops> sirv yes i was thinking about that
[08:54] <anddam> I see python3-minimal is just relying on python3.5-minimal and there's no alternatives for it
[08:55] <alkisg> CIclops: before you do that though, make sure to disable swap in use, e.g. swapoff -a
[08:55] <CIclops> sirv, config data yes ... everything else is backed up
[08:56] <sirv> i just like to install newest version always ... if any problem occurs i install newest version
[08:56] <sirv> i do not like old versions
[08:56] <sirv> i like newest versions
[08:57] <noc_> anddam, why would you want that
[08:57] <CIclops> sirv, so i boot 16 from USB and install on new disk  ... take old disk offline in BIOS?
[08:59] <sirv> clops > it could work like that, yes . you could leave old disk enabled also, and in bios select new disk as boot source
[08:59] <anddam> noc_: why not?
[08:59] <aaran> Hi, trying to run lightdm-gtk-greeter but I am getting the error ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:31556): WARNING **: Unable to determine socket to daemon
[08:59] <sirv> clops > and you could install from CD
[08:59] <geirha> anddam: The downside of a stable release cycle is that package versions are frozen, so you won't get the newest stable version of every package. The upside of a stable release cycle is that all package versions are frozen, avoiding surprises by new features introduced in newer packages
[08:59] <anddam> noc_: there are new formatted string literals, new type hinting annotation and async generators
[09:00] <sirv> clops > or use 16.04 it has some long term support if u do not like to reinstall often
[09:01] <anddam> geirha: I reckon that, so if the new apackage doesn't introduce new bugs it "could just work" but it's not tested or endorsed by the system
[09:01] <anddam> geirha: btw I can install the package so I can call python3.6 and I'm already there, just wondering if there was a proper way to do that
[09:02] <anddam> I hve to say, as much as I don't like systemd, the user experience with this 16.04 I installed onto a fresh new laptop has been *amazing*
[09:03] <sirv> anddam the boot speed ?
[09:03] <anddam> seamlessy working of *everything* I could think of, so far
[09:03] <geirha> anddam: Ah, I assumed python3.6 wasn't included in 16.10, but I see that it is. Then the typical way of making it the default python3 would be with update-alternatives(1)
[09:03] <anddam> sirv: I dont' care much about that, it's maybe 5 seconds or less to the DM login prompt
[09:04] <anddam> but I come from an habit of never shutting the computer down on macbookpro
[09:04] <anddam> geirha: python is not managed by alternatives, I checked that and that's why I came asking
[09:04] <sirv> anddam when first came in contact with systemd i was surprised by the boot speed .. before it was like 30 seconds, now like 7 seconds
[09:05] <anddam> also python3-minimal explicitly depends on python3.5-minimal so python3.6-minimal would not satisfy that
[09:05] <neopsyche> hi all, i have an issue with hard drive space.. in home folder there are around 77 gigs shown used.. but when checking the system for that folder.. the user home folder.. it only shows about 4 gigs used in baobab?
[09:05] <anddam> sirv: I cannot get the hang of unit files structure, it seems overly complex for my needs
[09:05] <alkisg> neopsyche: it's possible that you don't have access to some of those, try with sudo baobab dir
[09:05] <anddam> is this "everything just works" an effect of Ubuntu's work or GNOME?
[09:05] <neopsyche> yes i tried with sudo also
[09:06] <neopsyche> let me try again
[09:06] <geirha> anddam: Hm. I see. Then I'm as unsure as you :)
[09:06] <alkisg> neopsyche: what's the output of sudo du -sh /home/* ?
[09:06] <CIclops> sirv, new disk is bootable but the system is on the old (bad) drive
[09:06] <anddam> geirha: I'll leave as it is
[09:06] <anddam> I don't *need* python3 -> python3.6, I can type the two extra chars
[09:06] <neopsyche> 73G	/home/myusername
[09:07] <neopsyche> alkisg: 73G	/home/myusername
[09:07] <tech-guy> would need some support too, but don't want to bother ppl in the main channel
[09:07] <alkisg> neopsyche: and sudo baobab /home/myusername, reports only 4?
[09:07] <sirv> clclops > then maybe disable old disk in bios, u can enable it later after the installation
[09:07] <alkisg> tech-guy: ask in the channel, generally in irc people don't like private messages
[09:08] <sirv> clops . if u need to get some data from the old system
[09:08] <yuuiubuntu> Hello.
[09:09] <PureVi> Hi
[09:09] <Xz> khfeng_: ok, so my SSD that's internal to laptop has GPT partition table and it boots fine (win10). Next my Ubuntu-LIVE USB has partition table called 'mac' in gparted. It boots fine as well. Last one, USB with fully installed Ubuntu on it has partition table called 'msdos' in gparted - that one doesn't boot
[09:09] <geirha> neopsyche: sudo du -haxd1 "$HOME" | sort -h
[09:09] <ikevin> neopsyche, do you include hidden files/dir when checking space?
[09:09] <CIclops> sirv, i checked BIOS new disk is the boot disk but system is on old disk
[09:09] <Xz> khfeng_: should I do partitions ahead (e.g. GPT) and then just install ubuntu on it without partitioning anymore?
[09:10] <tech-guy> ok thanks. I have 16.04 installed on my x220. Dual screens via adapter are detected, but only show black screen. i was thinking about installing the intel graphics drivers updater, but 01.org shows me the 403 error
[09:10] <sirv> clops > so what u want to do ? do a fresh 16.04 installation on new disk right ?
[09:11] <yuuiubuntu> I want add package to official ubuntu repository.How can I do it?
[09:12] <alkisg> tech-guy: did you try to lower the resolution? because some times adapters make the system mis-read the monitor information data, edid...
[09:12] <sirv> yuu what package ?
[09:13] <alkisg> Xz: it sounds like your laptop only allows uefi boots, not bios/csm boots - you can configure that in the system setup, or you can install ubuntu to usb in uefi mode
[09:14] <Xz> alkisg: that's what I did
[09:14] <akik> yuuiubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Upstream
[09:14] <yuuiubuntu> It's about linux kernel.
[09:14] <CIclops> sirv, booted 14.01.1 which has the system on the good disk :)
[09:14] <Xz> alkisg: it's weird, because I can get USB-LIVE to boot in secure mode
[09:14] <Xz> alkisg: and my full install (USB-full) doesn't boot
[09:14] <Xz> alkisg: to be honest EFI partitions look different between the two
[09:14] <alkisg> Xz: what's the output of `sudo parted -l`, wrt the usb disk?
[09:15] <alkisg> Xz: the normal partition table for uefi systems is gpt, not mbr
[09:15] <aaran> Hi, trying to run lightdm-gtk-greeter but I am getting the error ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:31556): WARNING **: Unable to determine socket to daemon
[09:15] <alkisg> Xz: is it a usb disk or a usb stick?
[09:15] <neopsyche> alksig: no in baobab GUI it shows 70+ gig or so .. but.. the subdirectories only show around 4 gigs  of files.. where are the other gigs?
[09:15] <Xz> alkisg: all USB sticks
[09:15] <bazhang> yuuiubuntu, what about the linux kernel, give us exact info
[09:15] <sirv> aaran why u try to run that ?
[09:15] <yuuiubuntu> I want to add package to official ubutu repository
[09:16] <geirha> neopsyche: hidden files, probably
[09:16] <neopsyche> ok checking
[09:16] <alkisg> neopsyche: possibly in hidden subdirectories that start with "."
[09:16] <aaran> I want to use webkit greeter and test it before I logout to make sure that its not gonna lock me out
[09:16] <yuuiubuntu> all package of linux kernel.
[09:16] <alkisg> Xz: ok, the output of parted -l?
[09:16] <geirha> neopsyche: the command I suggested should show them
[09:16] <ducasse> yuuiubuntu: the best approach would be to get it added to debian, so it can get synced in the next ubuntu release and all debian derivatives get access to it.
[09:16] <bazhang> yuuiubuntu, you want to add your own custom kernels to ubuntu official repos?
[09:17] <Xz> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/hwW62bM8
[09:17] <aaran> trying to get this working https://github.com/FallingSnow/lightdm-webkit2-material2
[09:17] <neopsyche> OH HOLY #**# thanks people..  its .xsesson-errors.old!
[09:17] <Xz> alkisg: that's on the USB stick with full Ubuntu installation - the one that doesn't boot
[09:17] <geirha> haha
[09:17] <neopsyche> 68.4GB backup file!!?!? WHY!?
[09:17] <geirha> neopsyche: I guess you had A LOT of errors at some point
[09:17] <neopsyche> sure...
[09:17] <Xz> alkisg: wait, it's not, sorry
[09:17] <neopsyche> but i still dont know why lol.. someone call skully and mulder.
[09:17] <anddam> the only big drawback so far with being on linux is actually a Google's fault, they don't offer linux versino of their desktop clients
[09:18] <Xz> alkisg: the one you have is from internal SSD
[09:18] <geirha> tail .xsession-errors.old
[09:18] <anddam> for instance Drive
[09:18] <yuuiubuntu> yes.
[09:18] <alkisg> Xz: yup, waiting for the correct one...
[09:18] <bazhang> yuuiubuntu, why would you want to do that
[09:18] <aaran> any advice?
[09:18] <neopsyche> this thing is only using an 128GB SSD.. so that really freaked me out for a couple of days now.
[09:18] <Xz> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/xKFmFURS
[09:19] <sirv> aaran how did u install it ? apt ?
[09:19] <Delphin> hey guys, I have a problem with OpenVPN on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, for some reason when I go to the top "VPN Connections" and select one, it does not even try to connect, and disconnect is not highlightable either :/
[09:19] <neopsyche> thanks very much all.. sometimes a person only needs others to speak to, to get a clear perspective. ;-)
[09:19] <anddam> pip3 asks to be upgraded via pip3, if I do that will APT remove the file at later stage?
[09:19] <yuuiubuntu> before answer that,I want to ask you what compiler is using to compiling the kernel?
[09:19] <sirv> neopsyche question is why so many errors in that file
[09:19] <aaran> did a git clone
[09:19] <alkisg> xz, didn't you say that it has msdos partition table? that one has gpt too...
[09:19] <anddam> i.e. does APT checksums installed files or once it registered /usr/bin/pip3 with a package it will remove on unisntall even if the file changed?
[09:19] <neopsyche> Delphin.. did you install openvpn gui option I think there might be some fixes for that
[09:19] <neopsyche> Delphin.. or its a config issue.
[09:19] <Xz> alkisg: did I?
[09:20] <Xz> alkisg: that's the USB-Live that boots fine: http://pastebin.com/Bp8nWqWa
[09:20] <neopsyche> sirv: yes! I know.. i did install the new intel driver update recently
[09:20] <neopsyche> sirv: intel hd3000
[09:20] <alkisg> Xz, "Last one, USB with fully installed Ubuntu on it has partition table called 'msdos' in gparted - that one doesn't boot"
[09:20] <bazhang> yuuiubuntu, you cannot get any sort of upload rights like that, not until you become a motu
[09:20] <yuuiubuntu> what's motu?
[09:20] <sirv> aaran dont worry u will not get locked out .. u have always the console accessible
[09:20] <tech-guy> alkisg turning resultion down doesn't work. monitors seem like they're not even reacting to the hdmi at all
[09:20] <akik> neopsyche: here's a command which looks for files greater than 1000 megs in your current dir "find . -size +1000M"
[09:20] <bazhang> !motu | yuuiubuntu
[09:20] <neopsyche> well. anyhow.. haha good news is that my drive is now using 16.x gigs :-D
[09:21] <Xz> alkisg: sorry, I tried installing on 2 USB sticks
[09:21] <Xz> alkisg: the other one has msdos
[09:21] <aaran> I assume if it fails with that command it would also fail at the real login screen ?
[09:21] <Delphin> neopsyche: yeah I got network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed
[09:21] <Xz> alkisg: the one you see is 64GB SanDisk with GPT
[09:21] <alkisg> Xz: and which one has a problem that you need to solve?
[09:21] <yuuiubuntu> OK.Thank you.
[09:21] <Xz> alkisg: another one is 16GB SanDisk with msdos
[09:21] <Xz> alkisg: none of them boots
[09:21] <Xz> alkisg: they are both USB-FUll Ubuntu installation
[09:21] <neopsyche> thanks alkisg
[09:21] <Delphin> neopsyche: but looks like I didnt have gadmin-openvpn-client installed
[09:21] <neopsyche> there ya go Delphin
[09:21] <alkisg> neopsyche: you're welcome
[09:22] <sirv> aaran i think it wil work
[09:22] <Xz> alkisg: I also have 3rd USB stick with USB-live Ubuntu install - and that one boots fine in secure mode
[09:22] <PureVi> does anyone has a good book info for linux to start ?
[09:22] <aaran> just a black screen
[09:22] <Xz> alkisg: I just want to install Ubuntu on USB stick and boot it in secure mode
[09:22] <bazhang> PureVi, for ubuntu yes
[09:22] <neopsyche> alkisg:  issue future reference https://askubuntu.com/questions/314723/why-is-the-xsession-errors-old-file-so-big
[09:22] <bazhang> PureVi, for general try ##linux
[09:22] <sirv> aaran why u need that anyway ?
[09:22] <bazhang> !manual | PureVi
[09:22] <aaran> wanted an animated login screen
[09:22] <alkisg> Xz: did you install the signed kernels, or the unsigned ones?
[09:22] <bazhang> !rute | PureVi and this
[09:23] <Xz> alkisg: I used default 16.04LTS live image to install
[09:23] <Xz> alkisg: it never asked, but it asked where to put EFI bootloader
[09:23] <Xz> alkisg: so I'm assuming it's all signed
[09:23] <PureVi> thanks
[09:23] <bazhang> np
[09:23] <yuuiubuntu> How to be a MOTU?
[09:23] <PureVi> very friendly
[09:23] <Xz> alkisg: anywa - it should bring me to grub either way, right?
[09:23] <alkisg> Xz: does it boot if you disable secure boot?
[09:23] <bazhang> yuuiubuntu, read tht link I just gave you
[09:23] <Xz> alkisg: didn't try that
[09:24] <Xz> alkisg: but what's the point? if I want secure boot long term ?
[09:24] <liu> hello
[09:24] <liu> hello
[09:24] <CIclops> how to set an old ubuntu version as the default system to boot in grub?
[09:24] <alkisg> Xz: it will allow you to pinpoint the issue
[09:24] <alkisg> Xz: now you don't even know if it's secure-boot related or not
[09:24] <bazhang> liu did you have an ubuntu support issue
[09:25] <Xz> alkisg: true
[09:25] <yuuiubuntu> I clicked a link, It's jumped to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[09:25] <Xz> alkisg: well, it looks like it's UEFI related
[09:25] <Xz> alkisg: because UEFI doesn't kick off GRUB
[09:25] <sirv> aaran i leave everything at default setting if possible
[09:26] <Xz> alkisg: if secure boot was wrong - I would get to grub and then it would say 'not booting, signature incorrect'
[09:26] <bazhang> yuuiubuntu, becoming a MOTU is a long term effort, not something done in a short time at all
[09:26] <Xz> alkisg: also, I can actually boot it right after installation
[09:26] <Xz> alkisg: I can boot it multiple times until I boot win10 that sits on internal SSD
[09:26] <Xz> after that, I think win10 overwrites some UEFI variables
[09:27] <yuuiubuntu> Oh,I don't know that at all!
[09:27] <Xz> alkisg: and after that I cannot boot my Ubuntu anymore
[09:27] <liu> where are you
[09:27] <bazhang> liu hi
[09:27] <sirv> xz > that suxx big time
[09:27] <bazhang> liu did you have any ubuntu support questions
[09:27] <kasad> greetings
[09:27] <alkisg> Xz: you could check the output of `efibootmgr` before and after you boot win10
[09:27] <Xz> sirv: oh yes, and funny thing is that I can always boot USB-LIVE version
[09:28] <bazhang> liu this is ubuntu support
[09:28] <Xz> alkisg: is efibootmgr efi-shell app?
[09:28] <bazhang> liu if you want to chat, then please find another channel for that
[09:28] <sirv> xz maybe it is time to remove windows and never boot it again
[09:28] <Xz> sirv: it's corporate laptop with corporate build
[09:28] <alkisg> Xz: it's there in the live cd of ubuntu, but I think you should be able to check the boot sequence in efi shell too...
[09:28] <Xz> sirv: if I nix that I have nothing to do at work
[09:29] <Xz> alkisg: my UEFI doesn't have shell enabled I think
[09:29] <sirv> xz then iam surprised they allowed u to install linux ... just use the live version thenm
[09:29] <Xz> alkisg: I searched through all of the options
[09:29] <alkisg> Xz: then try it from the live media
[09:29] <alkisg> (efibootmgr)
[09:29] <neopsyche> anyone else been having issues playing files from plugins exodus on kodi in ubuntu 16.04
[09:29] <tech-guy> nothing else I could try?
[09:29] <Xz> sirv: I'm trying to install Linux on USB
[09:29] <Xz> sirv: so they have nothing to say about that
[09:29] <neopsyche> (standarad kodi from repo)
[09:29] <kasad> anyone got idea why this my happen: I have one ubuntu-desktop (16.04) with shared folder which is used so other windows ws's can access clients thumbdrives and not screw up their windows boxes which they normally do.. The setup works for months. Now today all of a sudden share is inaccessible
[09:29] <kasad> any tips?
[09:30] <Xz> sirv: so it's pretty much like live system, except it's full install
[09:30] <neopsyche> kasad: perhaps a change in the samba filesystem plugin?
[09:30] <liu> china
[09:30] <neopsyche> kasad: especially from windows side? MS possible interference.
[09:30] <bazhang> !cn | liu
[09:31] <kasad> neopsyche: change like something changed itself, because no one there even know how to do anything other than open that shared folder on desktop
[09:31] <liu> no
[09:31] <neopsyche> neopsyche joins ubuntu-cn perhaps a great place to learn to type in chinese :-)
[09:31] <sirv> xz > ok and if u disconnect the usb when going to boot intio windows ? does it still mess up the instalaation ?
[09:32] <bazhang> liu again, please find another place to chat, NOT here
[09:32] <raf_> weee
[09:32] <kasad> neopsyche: all windows boxes still see ubuntu box on network, no changes in configuration have been made on any box, (it was sunday, and machines were on, I accessed them remotely and didn't change a thing)
[09:32] <raf_> ggg
[09:32] <neopsyche> kasad: updates
[09:32] <ducasse> raf_: do that in #test, please
[09:32] <raf_> whi?
[09:32] <Xz> sirv: look, after installing Ubuntu onto USB after it's finished I reboot the laptop and I have new entry in UEFI saying 'ubuntu'. I can boot that multiple times. Now if I just boot win10 from internal SSD (with bitlocker on it) next reboot my 'ubuntu' entry is gone from UEFI.
[09:32] <raf_> #test
[09:33] <Xz> sirv: and also selecting USB from menu doesn't do shit - it just will not let me boot it
[09:33] <liu> you are computr
[09:33] <Xz> sirv: if I use USB-LIVE stick it always boots
[09:34] <Hanumaan> how to get lock icon in gnome-ubuntu?
[09:34] <sirv> xz maybe it is some corporate security software that removes the entry
[09:34] <Xz> sirv: I think it is bitlocker
[09:34] <liu> Where are you all
[09:34] <kasad> neopsyche: ic, but only I do install updates (manually) and nothing was installed. they just woke me up after working on other problem whole night and I'm flabbergasted
[09:34] <Xz> sirv: but the thing is that USB-LIVE Ubuntu always boots - I just select USB stick from UEFI menu and it boots
[09:34] <ducasse> !ot | liu
[09:34] <Xz> sirv: and USB-FULL Ubuntu install has that problem
[09:34] <sirv> but when u can always boot LIVE USB then u should be able to booot any usb
[09:35] <Xz> sirv: I know
[09:35] <neopsyche> kasad: auto update on windows machiens?
[09:35] <Xz> sirv: I'm sure I can boot any USB
[09:35] <Xz> sirv: it looks like installer did something wrong to EFI partition of USB-FULL stick
[09:35] <Xz> sirv: when I compare EFI partition of USB-LIVE vs USB-FULL they are different
[09:35] <neopsyche> gotta run cheerz people
[09:35] <Xz> sirv: USB-FULL doesn't even have EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi file
[09:36] <Xz> sirv: that's the one I'm expecting UEFI kicks off to start booting given entry
[09:36] <kasad> beopsyche: yes, but there are 6 win boxes, and not on same windows version and they see all other network devices normally, or should I say network is functioning normally for everything, even see's ubuntu box, but not the shared folder
[09:36] <sirv> xz iam not export at boot issues, often have problems myself booting :) ok and when u try to boot you FULLUSB install, do you get error message ?
[09:37] <Xz> sirv: no, I get nothing
[09:37] <Xz> sirv: after selecting USB entry it comes back to selection menu
[09:37] <Xz> sirv: like it was empty stick or something
[09:37] <Xz> sirv: there is no messages
[09:37] <sirv> xz > and why u need full install ? just use liveusb ...
[09:37] <Xz> sirv: I looked for debug messages from UEFI, but there is no way in user interace to enable that
[09:38] <liu> I can not speak english
[09:38] <Xz> sirv: well, I want full to have proper system
[09:38] <kasad> neopsyche: I have epson large format printer, epson plotter, 2 xerox machines, 2 ricoh aficio machines, NAS, on that network and everything is functioning normally
[09:38] <Xz> sirv: USB-live persistent will put rootfs.iso on top of FAT32
[09:38] <bazhang> liu here is not the place to learn english, try ##english
[09:38] <Xz> sirv: and do double mount and chroot
[09:38] <Xz> sirv: that's not super reliable etc.
[09:38] <liu> 5555555555555555555
[09:38] <Xz> sirv: I would rather have real ext4 partition with journal
[09:39] <Xz> sirv: worst case I can do USB-live persistent
[09:39] <sirv> xz or use virtualbox on windows
[09:39] <liu> piay  QQ?
[09:39] <Xz> sirv: I want separate OS, many reasons
[09:39] <PureVi> My computer works well but shutdown & reboot doesn't work with GUI. Anyone had experienced similar issue before ?
[09:39] <kasad> brb whilst I smash my had against the wall, they woke me up after 2 hours of sleep can't think
[09:39] <Xz> sirv: one of them being VPN/proxy by default
[09:39] <kasad> s/had/head
[09:40] <Xz> sirv: only way to browse anonymously is to tunnel
[09:40] <Xz> sirv: corporate build sucks
[09:41] <sirv> that is downside working for corporation
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: so there is this file EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI that exists on LIVE-USB and doesn't exist on FULL-USB
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: I think that's the reason
[09:42] <sirv> xz maybe try other distro ?
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: only ubuntu and fedora support secure boot
[09:42] <sirv> ok then try to copy the file
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: tried fedora live already - didn't even have built-in wifi drivers
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: gave up on that
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: I don't want project distro
[09:42] <Xz> sirv: I want OS that will just work out of the box
[09:43] <Xz> sirv: don't want to spend every day fixing damn OS
[09:45] <sirv> xz so when u boot windows, what do u think changes ? something on the USB stick ?
[09:45] <Xz> sirv: nope, bitlocker changes UEFI variables
[09:45] <Xz> sirv: to default ones
[09:45] <the-listener> msg Hello
[09:45] <sirv> UEFI variables are stored where ?
[09:45] <the-listener> hello
[09:45] <Xz> sirv: I jus found a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1366546
[09:46] <PureVi> helloo
[09:46] <Xz> sirv: I think it's mine
[09:46] <Xz> sirv: because if boot-entry is in UEFI variables, my USB-FULL boots fine (that's the case right after Ubuntu installation)
[09:46] <Xz> sirv: but then when I boot win10 -> get UEFI variables reset to default values -> EFI doesn't have boot entry for ubuntu anymore
[09:47] <the-listener> I am a beginer in open soure development ,can anybody tell me how can i contribute to ubuntu??
[09:47] <Xz> sirv: so it should look for /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi file but it doesn't exist there, so no boot scenario occurs
[09:47] <Xz> the-listener: fix that one: g that is affecting me.
[09:47] <Xz> I have a Lenovo Carbon 2. During about half the kernel updates in Utopic, the computer subsequently refused to boot. AT ALL.
[09:47] <ducasse> !contribute | the-listener
[09:48] <the-listener> ducasse i didn't understand
[09:48] <ducasse> the-listener: read the links ubottu gave you
[09:49] <sirv> and this file /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi should be on the usb drive ? then copy it there
[09:49] <Speiros> Good evening people.  I'd like to know some terminal commands regarding groups and users.  1) How do I add a group?  2) How do I add an existing user to this group? 3) How do I see what groups are in my system?  Thanks:)
[09:49] <the-listener> ducasse : what do you mean by !contribute .can you elaborate
[09:50] <ducasse> the-listener: it triggers ubottu to give you those links, just read them
[09:50] <bazhang> the-listener, read the link it gave
[09:51] <the-listener> ducasse ,bazhang thank you very much
[09:51] <bazhang> np
[09:54] <BreakingNews> earth is under attack
[09:54] <BreakingNews> by trannies from outer space!
[09:54] <PureVi> da f*ck
[09:54] <sirv> breaking > i think armageddon will come soon
[09:55] <Speiros> lol...fair dinkum eh.
[09:57] <sruli> how can i make a keyboard shortcut work while screen is locked? (i made a shortcut to exec script and poweroff, if screen is locked i down want to need to login to shutdown...)
[10:01] <the-listener> !contribute
[10:02] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu the-listener read that link
[10:03] <Speiros> Actually, I have the answer to the first of the three questions, but if anyone can help me with the adding an existing user to the group, and how to see what groups I have, I'd appreciate it.
[10:04] <GladiaTeur> Hello there can this crontab * 4 2 * * root reboot >/dev/null 2>&1 work on ubuntu or is it wrong one?
[10:05] <ikevin> GladiaTeur, look like ok, just recommand to use /sbin/reboot instead of reboot only
[10:06] <GladiaTeur> ikevin like this * 4 2 * * root /sbin/reboot >/dev/null 2>&1 but the old one didn't reboot it yet it's now 4 days and this crontab time is 2 days and half
[10:08] <ikevin> GladiaTeur, the rules is "every minuts between 4h and 5h every 2 of mounth"
[10:08] <ikevin> so, next reboot will be the 02/02/2017 at 4h00
[10:09] <neopsyche> hi all. im having problems mounting usb drive.. it seems to mount then unmount immediately
[10:09] <ikevin> neopsyche, does dmesg show you some errors?
[10:09] <GladiaTeur> ikevin Oh so i need to be just for 2 days and half reboot at 2 or 3pm
[10:10] <braggit> how can i install a kernel from an older release?
[10:10] <neopsyche> ikevin: [ 1588.897290] sd 18:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[10:10] <neopsyche> [ 1588.897305] sd 18:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[10:10] <neopsyche> [ 1588.927203]  sdb: sdb1
[10:10] <neopsyche> [ 1588.930772] sd 18:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[10:11] <ikevin> GladiaTeur, 0 3 * * */2 root /sbin/reboot &>/dev/null
[10:11] <ikevin> GladiaTeur, this will reboot at 3h00 every 2 days
[10:11] <GladiaTeur> Thank you i appreciate ikevin
[10:11] <ikevin> neopsyche, no "usb disconnect" after that?
[10:12] <ikevin> GladiaTeur, your welcome
[10:12] <Wheemp> In here that i can ask questions about Canonical and openstack?
[10:12] <neopsyche> ikevin: strange yes its not showing in nautilus
[10:13] <braggit> how to install older kernel?
[10:13] <ikevin> neopsyche, does manual mount work?
[10:13] <chandan> For the 16.04.2 enablement kernel (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack), from which location can i download the debug version of the kernel?
[10:14] <neopsyche> ikevin i dont know
[10:14] <ikevin> neopsyche, try it :)
[10:15] <neopsyche> in 'disks' it shows up
[10:15] <Wheemp> If anyone is up for a few questions feel free to contact me when you have the time. got issues with juju installation after maas installations.
[10:17] <bazhang> Wheemp, ask in the channel
[10:17] <ikevin> neopsyche, this can be a mounting error, if yes, you will show it when mounting manualy
[10:17] <bazhang> if someone knows, they will respond
[10:17] <the-listener> !contribute
[10:18] <the-listener> ! contribute
[10:18] <bazhang> the-listener, /msg ubottu for that
[10:18] <bazhang> the-listener, instead of repeatedly doin g it here
[10:19] <Delphin> neopsyche: turns out this fixed it https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22device+not+managed%22+ubuntu&t=h_&atb=v45-7&ia=qa   my NetworkManager.conf was set to managed=false and I only needed to change it to managed=true  :)
[10:19] <Wheemp> Anyone has a guide for juju installations without autopilot, on 14.04 or 16.04 doesn't really matter. Got it working with autopilot but i don't want to use that for a productions envionrment. Its an openstack installation with 11 nodes
[10:19] <the-listener> bazhang:sorry for being repeatative
[10:20] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu contribute the-listener
[10:20] <Guest73527> hi
[10:20] <Speiros> I have to say: being in here is really an education, even if I forget 90% of it straight off the bat if I don't practice it (or write it down).  I appreciate all your input.  Hopefully I'll be a bit more  helpful as time goes on, when I have the time to help out too, but definitely after having more experience.
[10:21] <neopsyche> ikevin how to mount manually?
[10:21] <ikevin> neopsyche, mkdir ~/tmp && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/tmp
[10:22] <ikevin> if no error, see if your files are in ~/tmp
[10:22] <neopsyche> delphin: ok cool
[10:22] <ikevin> ~ = your home
[10:23] <Stopostit> :q
[10:23] <Stopostit> woops x) sorry
[10:25] <neopsyche> ikevin when i try to mount i can see it 'flashes' the LED.. but still nothing in nautilus
[10:25] <pjm6> Good morning
[10:26] <pjm6> anyone here know how can I change the interfaces names of networking? I have somethign like enp2s0 and I wanted to have eno* how I have in others servers
[10:27] <ikevin> neopsyche, if you mount manualy, you will not see it in nautilus, so, in your home you will have a "tmp" directory with your content
[10:27] <sirv> pjm6 i have that problem also .. but i just keep it like it is ... leave it at default .. not want to break anything
[10:27] <neopsyche> ikevin:  testdisk = Warning: Bad ending sector (CHS and LBA don't match)
[10:27] <sos> hello :D
[10:27] <neopsyche> No partition is bootable
[10:27] <pjm6> i was trying to see in udev rules file but  dont have udev rules
[10:28] <sirv> pjm6 u think it is so important ?
[10:28] <ikevin> neopsyche, why using testdisk?
[10:29] <sirv> pjm6 did u try to google ?
[10:30] <bazhang> sirv, never suggest that here
[10:30] <pjm6> sirv: yes, because I have an ansible playbook that use the same net interface
[10:30] <neopsyche> ikevin: formatted to ntfs, now it sees it
[10:30] <sirv> bazhang why not ?:)
[10:30] <pjm6> sirv: yes I did, but I found only solution for ubuntu 14.04 and CentOS
[10:30] <pjm6> 6
[10:30] <bazhang> sirv, this is not how we give advice here
[10:30] <pjm6> I also see that I can use the grub to disable that
[10:30] <Ben64> pjm6: what's wrong with enp2s0
[10:31] <pjm6> Ben64: I'm using the deployment of OpenStack
[10:31] <pjm6> and I need that my compute nodes use the same network interface
[10:31] <Ben64> that doesn't make any sense
[10:31] <sirv> bazhang really ? is there reason for that ?
[10:31] <pjm6> I know that I can disable this by using grub
[10:31] <Ben64> change the thing to use enp2s0
[10:32] <sirv> pkm6 > look i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-04
[10:32] <sirv> pjm u have to create this file etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[10:33] <pjm6> sirv: thanks I tried that but didn't work
[10:33] <pjm6> What I can try is again is change the grub
[10:33] <Ben64> pjm6: or just change the thing you're using to use the proper interface instead of trying to kludge it
[10:33] <pjm6> Ben64: the problem is that my other compute nodes have as interface name eno1, eno2, eno3,(etc..)A
[10:34] <Ben64> how is that a problem
[10:34] <cybex_> hi all: I have a memory quesion, running "free-m' gives output: +/- 8Gb totol, 5.2G used, 2.5 G ram  cache, free 1.1G. Why is the cache so high? How can I "lower" it?
[10:34] <pjm6> Ben64: the problem is that my other compute nodes (with same Ubuntu version) have another interface name
[10:34] <Ben64> again, how is that a problem
[10:35] <Ben64> cybex_: unused ram is wasted ram, cache will go down if something else needs memory, don't worry
[10:35] <pjm6> everytime I deploy the new configurations, I must go to the compute nodes that have the incorrect interface name and change it manually
[10:35] <Ben64> yes do that
[10:35] <cybex_> pjm6: I am not sure if this will help, I recall using a function to change the interface name. If a  name change is all you need, search "change interface name"
[10:36] <pjm6> imagine: node1 to node20 (has interface starting with eno1), node20 to node40 (has interface starting with ensp0)
[10:36] <pjm6> cybex_: thanks never searched for that :)
[10:36] <Ben64> alternatively, turn off the predictable names altogether and use eth0 or whatever
[10:36] <sirv> pjm6 why u have so many nodes ?
[10:36] <pjm6> with this option GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[10:36] <pjm6>  , right Ben64 ?
[10:37] <Ben64> possibly
[10:37] <pjm6> sirv: it's a cluster for running VMs
[10:37] <cybex_> Ben64: Any idea what is loaded into the cache that takes up so much space? It seems...abnormal
[10:38] <Ben64> cybex_: all sorts of stuff to make things faster. why is it a problem? if it stays empty it's a waste
[10:39] <cybex_> Ben64: true :p thanks
[10:39] <cybex_> pjm6: A suggested read: http://askubuntu.com/questions/689070/network-interface-name-changes-after-update-to-15-10-udev-changes or
[10:39] <cybex_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/628217/use-of-predictable-network-interface-names-with-alternate-kernels
[10:40] <cybex_> this is what I was refering too, hope it helps
[10:41] <pjm6> thanks cybex_ , once I tried to create the file 70-persistent-rules (that existed in the Ubuntu 14.04) and no success :\ but i will read this, thank you =)
[10:41] <cybex_> not a problem, glad to help
[10:42] <Zeljko> anyone know how to start this script : https://github.com/phukd/muhstik
[10:42] <Zeljko> thanks
[10:43] <sirv> zeljko > it is for spammers ?
[10:44] <Zeljko> sirv its something like clone bots script
[10:44] <Zeljko> i need that on my serv, but i dont know how it starts
[10:44] <sirv> just run the executable ./muhstik
[10:45] <cybex_> interesting that the servers file contains a freenode address...mmm
[10:46] <Ben64> it could be bad software
[10:47] <Ben64> yeah looks bad
[10:47] <hstl> Ben64, what looks bad?
[10:47] <Ben64> the script
[10:55] <anddam> what's the proper pasteboard client to use in GNOME?
[10:55] <anddam> in order to copy from stdin
[10:56] <CaptainMehul> Hello, I have Ubuntu 12.10 installed, and i want to upgrade it but i am getting this error  Failed to update repositories, please check your internet connection
[10:56] <CaptainMehul> How do i solve this
[10:56] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | CaptainMehul
[10:56] <Ben64> but really, would be best to install 16.04 fresh
[10:57] <Ben64> instead of doing a bunch of eol upgrades
[10:57] <k1l_> CaptainMehul: 12.10 is dead long  time. and since you will have to do 3 upgrades repeatedly to get to a supported ubunut release i suggest you a reinstall
[10:58] <CaptainMehul> Ok i will reinstall then. Thank you!
[10:58] <yuuiubuntu> How to be a MOTU? Packaging a lot?
[10:58] <yuuiubuntu> How to be a MOTU? Packaging a lot?
[10:59] <yuuiubuntu> How to be a MOTU? Packaging a lot?
[10:59] <k1l_> !motu | yuuiubuntu
[10:59] <yuuiubuntu> How to be a MOTU? Packaging a lot?
[10:59]  * FinalX was kinda waiting for the kill.. didn't get disappointed
[10:59] <k1l_> well, if he is gonna be so annoying i doubt he will become a motu
[10:59] <Speiros> a mofo maybe
[10:59] <FinalX> more like SOTU
[11:00] <Speiros> Should I retype the questions I typed almost an hour ago?
[11:01] <k1l_> Speiros: yes
[11:01] <Speiros> :)
[11:01] <Speiros> Good evening people.  I'd like to know some terminal commands regarding groups and users.  1) How do I add an existing user to this group? 2) How do I see what groups are in my system?  Thanks:)
[11:01] <Speiros> Oops, forgot to delete the intro.
[11:03] <neopsyche> argh unetbootin
[11:03] <Ben64> "adduser username group" to add username to a group
[11:03] <k1l_> Speiros: compgen -g
[11:03] <k1l_>  to list the groups
[11:03] <Speiros> Ben64 and k1l_ Awesome.  Thanks.  I'll go try, and see how they go.
[11:08] <Speiros> Ben64 and k1l_ Excellent.  I successfully added a user to the group I'd named, but the group search, although listing many other groups, including one I'd made, didn't list the one into which the person I added into.  It is named as a group, and I can see it with grep <groupname> /etc/passwd though.
[11:11] <k1l_> Speiros: relogin
[11:11] <Speiros> k1l_ Ok, cool.
[11:12] <Speiros> k1l_ Worked a charm.  Thanks, and Ben64 too:)
[11:23] <Zeljko> https://github.com/phukd/muhstik  > someone help me how to start this script via ssh ? thanks.
[11:24] <ppf> Zeljko: just start it?
[11:24] <ppf> what's the issue?
[11:24] <Zeljko> ppf i dont know how to start it
[11:24] <ppf> !pm Zeljko
[11:24] <geirha> What you linked to is a repository. It's not a script
[11:24] <sysadmin> hello
[11:25] <Zeljko> geirha than what is it ?
[11:25] <ppf> !pm | Zeljko
[11:25] <sysadmin> im not able to work with metacharacter commands
[11:25] <sysadmin> please help
[11:25] <geirha> a directory containing many different files ...
[11:25] <sysadmin> yes
[11:26] <Ben64> it's a irc spambot, probably not appropriate here
[11:26] <sysadmin> isis
[11:26] <Zeljko> Ben64 its bot script you are in right, i need that for my serv
[11:26] <Zeljko> i need to know how it starts
[11:26] <sysadmin> ill bomb you all
[11:26] <sysadmin> if you dont help me
[11:26] <sysadmin> youve been compromised
[11:26] <Ben64> Zeljko: it's probably illegal, but have fun. figure it out on your own.
[11:28] <pjm6> cybex_: the trick of creating /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules file works :)
[11:28] <pjm6> thank you
[11:29] <namjil> hi all, do people know about packetfence?
[11:43] <chalcedony> my husband's ubuntu 16.04 failed to boot to a login - it shows his username but not the box to type his password. i told him to use ctrl-alt-del and restart it.. he got a box that says he might want to save first with an X in the top left corner, but no [yes] [no] or [save].. it just goes away and doesn't reboot
[11:44] <chalcedony> someone else said he heard about the no ctrl-alt-del - but how do we fix it?
[11:45] <ppf> chalcedony: if you just wish to reboot: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get another tty. login there and type reboot
[11:45] <chalcedony> ppf ok ty how about the no login bar?
[11:48] <reinoso> Hi. I'm trying to install Lubuntu in a laptop that had windows before. It is an AIRIS N920, very old. "WARNING: PAE	 disabled. Use parameter 'forcepae' to enable at your own risk! This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[11:48] <ppf> chalcedony: i assume you're using lightdm. check its various logs in /var/log/lightdm
[11:49] <ppf> and paste anything suspicious
[11:49] <chalcedony> no idea what light dm is i'll see if he knows
[11:50] <ppf> that's the purple default login thingy that ubuntu ships
[11:52] <chalcedony> pdf ah ok thanks.. he seems happy now, but ill save this in case it happens again
[11:52] <chalcedony> thank you again :)
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:01] <soupnanodesukar> The winedri3 ppa has the wine2.0 binaries in /opt as of a day or so ago.  No wonder my game shortcuts don't work. ;_;
[12:08] <Speiros> Ok people.  Thanks for your help, and see you next time.
[12:15] <manraptor> ciao a tutti
[12:16] <manraptor> ciao a tutti
[12:16] <k1l_> hi
[12:16] <manraptor> ita 2016
[12:17] <k1l_> !it | manraptor
[12:17] <manraptor> hi
[12:17] <manraptor> italia
[12:17] <manraptor> ciao cube
[12:17] <manraptor> devo scaricare un film
[12:18] <k1l_> manraptor: no warez here
[12:18] <manraptor> ok grazie
[12:18] <manraptor> hi
[12:21] <sruli> how can i make a keyboard shortcut work while screen is locked? (i made a shortcut to exec script and poweroff, if screen is locked i dont want to need to login to shutdown...)
[12:27] <soupnanodesukar> sruli: alt-ctrl-f1 will still work in lockscreens, as for global shortcuts well X11 grabs the keyboard and lockscreen wouldn't be a lockscreen if shortcuts like that worked.
[12:28] <sruli> soupnanodesukar: yes, i guess my question is if its possible to configure an exeption
[12:28] <soupnanodesukar> sruli: I don't think so Tim.
[12:28] <soupnanodesukar> :^)
[12:29] <k1l_> sruli: i guess its not allowed due to security reasons.
[12:30] <sruli> thans
[12:30] <sruli> thanks
[12:38] <bongjovi> Can anyone help me installing nginx? How can I resolve this error?
[12:38] <bongjovi> nginx-core : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.10.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.4) but 1.10.2-3+xenial4 is to be installed
[12:38] <bongjovi> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:38] <soupnanodesukar> bongjovi: resolve it in aptitude
[12:39] <k1l_> bongjovi: can you show the output url of "sudo apt update && apt-cache policy nginx-common nginx-core | nc termbin.com 9999" in here?
[12:41] <bongjovi> k1l_: http://termbin.com/43m5
[12:41] <k1l_> bongjovi: your PPA in use is ruining the dependencies
[12:42] <ppf> you've got some ppa that's conflicting with the main repos
[12:42] <bongjovi> ah yeah I thought that might be it
[12:42] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | bongjovi
[12:44] <Fooster> on a stock ubuntu 16.04 machine (4.4.0-59-generic) I did apt-get install linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic and the installation fails due to "update-initramfs: not found"
[12:44] <Fooster> any ideases?
[12:44] <bongjovi> k1l_: probably this one right? nginx-ubuntu-stable-xenial.list
[12:46] <k1l_> bongjovi: use ppa-purge
[12:46] <ppf> Fooster: dpkg -l  initramfs-tools
[12:47] <bongjovi> k1l_: okay, I ran ppa-purge nginx/stable
[12:47] <Fooster> ppf: you want to see the output?
[12:47] <ppf> Fooster: yes
[12:47] <rejns> hello, i'm wondering why ubuntu sometimes takes so long to connect to wireless network whereas android, or windows can easily and quicly reconnect to same network. For example if i try to reconnect to wireless in ubuntu i'm at first a few times disconnected before connection succeeds and this can last up to 10minutes and sometimes doesnt manage to connect at all
[12:47] <Fooster> ii  initramfs-tool 0.122ubuntu8 all          generic modular initramfs generat
[12:47] <bongjovi> now I have this instead: http://termbin.com/wkg9
[12:48] <ppf> Fooster: ls /usr/sbin/update-initramfs
[12:48] <bongjovi> k1l_: thanks very much, was able to install nginx successfully
[12:48] <Fooster> ppf: that is there
[12:48] <k1l_> bongjovi: np
[12:49] <Fooster> so I guess /usr/sbin isn't in my path for reasons
[12:50] <HoloIRCUser> Hello all
[12:50] <ppf> Fooster: add it and try again?
[12:50] <Fooster> ppf: thx, that fixes it. So on another machine I faked it out by creating a fake script. Can I force the package to rebuild with the correct one?
[12:50] <ppf> try apt install --reinstall
[12:51] <Fooster> apt-get install --reinstall -y linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic seems to work
[12:52] <Fooster> ppf: thx
[12:52] <HoloIRCUser> I faced one of measure issue with Ubuntu server 16.04. I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 recently with some additional package like webmin , ur backup.. but after one month I saw all packages ,data, settings was removed automatically . Help me
[12:53] <HoloIRCUser> How that happened?
[12:53] <HoloIRCUser> Any help
[12:54] <k1l_> !webmin | HoloIRCUser
[12:55] <HoloIRCUser> But why urbackup also removed and data.
[12:56] <HoloIRCUser> Ubottu
[12:56] <k1l_> HoloIRCUser: we cant know what webmin does why.
[12:56] <HoloIRCUser> Okay
[12:56] <HoloIRCUser> Do you tell alternative of webmin that support Ubuntu
[12:57] <ppf> i'm looking for a way to treat mouse click-and-hold as just a click
[12:58] <ppf> how do i enable that?
[12:58] <ppf> is that a WM feature?
[12:59] <ppf> or can i do that through X?
[12:59] <ppf> ('cause this is a kiosk-type system running matchbox)
[12:59] <HoloIRCUser> Can anyone tell me alternative of webmin for Ubuntu
[13:00] <HoloIRCUser> ?
[13:01] <anddam> in graphical session the dock won't suddenly autohide anymore, I tried switching the setting off and on again a couple times to na avail
[13:01] <anddam> is there anything I can try before I logout and start a new session?
[13:01] <anddam> app windows are maximizing behind the dock
[13:01] <anddam> pretty annoying
[13:01] <k1l_> HoloIRCUser: there are not really any. some projects have own ones but they dont share them. most admins use the cli to manage servers.
[13:04] <HoloIRCUser> Is Ubuntu support cli
[13:05] <HoloIRCUser> Okay it is command line interface
[13:06] <HoloIRCUser> I want graphical interface to manage samba share
[13:06] <HoloIRCUser> On Ubuntu
[13:07] <ikevin> HoloIRCUser, there is a lot of gui to manage samba
[13:08] <ikevin> HoloIRCUser, in my case, using Nemo, i just need to right click on a directory and go to "share options" menu
[13:10] <xenop> hi
[13:10] <Obadiah1> hi
[13:10] <HoloIRCUser> I need to manage with web GUI
[13:10] <xenop> i have a problem
[13:10] <HoloIRCUser> ?
[13:11] <xenop> can you help ?
[13:11] <xenop> i setup ubuntu mate on rassperry pi 3 model b
[13:11] <xenop> but dont play video on youtube by firefox
[13:12] <xenop> the video freezing
[13:12] <xenop> how is this problem solved ?
[13:13] <ppf> does evdev's DragLockButtons do what i'm looking for?
[13:13] <Guest58650> did you use htlm5 oder flash on youtube ?
[13:13] <ppf> or is that kinda the opposite behaviour?
[13:13] <ikevin> HoloIRCUser, iirc, webmin provide a samba module
[13:14] <xenop> html5
[13:15] <ppf> the documentation of evdev events is surprisingly sparse
[13:17] <ikevin> xenop, try with midori
[13:18] <ikevin> xenop, firefox is a browser that need a lot of ressources
[13:20] <xenop> ok
[13:26] <bq_> how to set up ipsec/l2tp vpn client on ubuntu?
[13:50] <Hanumaan> when a package installed with either apt or dpkg how to know where all the files are stored? I am looking for shared libraries of libboost pkages library files
[13:51] <ppf> dpkg -L <package>
[13:51] <jink> Apparently, it's been too long since I last did anything with Ubuntu.  eth0 is now ens3, so far, so good.  I'm looking for guidance towards adding an extra ip and configuring ipv6.  This is server 16.10.
[13:52] <ppf> jink: what's the specific problem
[13:52] <jink> ppf: I can't seem to configure an extra interface (eth0:0?) and ipv6.
[13:53] <ppf> alright, why not?
[13:53] <jink> I'm guessing it should be ens3:0 ?
[13:54] <ppf> probably :)
[13:55] <jink> ppf: Do I configure my ipv6 on the interface, or the virtual, or both?
[13:55] <k1l> jink: the kernel(or was it systemd) changed to the new naming scheme for network devices some time ago and ubuntu and debian did that change recently, too.
[13:55] <ppf> one address per NIC
[13:56] <ppf> *and per addressing scheme (aka v4 v. v6)
[13:57] <jink> Ok, so I have no idea what I changed, but it seems to work now.  I think I broke it somewhere along the line, and flushing everything seems to've helped.  Both ipv6 addresses do end up on ens3, though.  But the ipv4 goes to ens3 and ens3:0 .
[13:58] <ppf> jink: fwiw, if you want to have multiple addresses for a nic, there's no need to create aliases
[13:59] <jink> ppf: Well, it's a single nic, obviously.  Can I just repeat the "address" section on an iface?
[14:00] <ppf> no, one iface block per address alias
[14:01] <ppf> check out man interfaces
[14:01] <jink> Then what aliases do you mean in "multiple addresses for a nic, there's no need to create aliases"?
[14:01] <jink> I'll check the man page.
[14:02] <ppf> interface aliases
[14:02] <ppf> is what i meant there
[14:03] <jink> Ah, ok, I thought you meant ensx:y
[14:03] <rifter> okay I forgot and can't find the right answer - what packages do I need to install to be able to use opengl in a program?  I did install mesa-utils and glxinfo gave an error "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig"
[14:04] <ppf> jink: i did, that's an interface alias
[14:05] <jink> ppf: Then I don't get it.  Run this by me again, if you will.  I can't have more than 1 address on an iface.  But I can repeat "iface esn0 inet static \ adress ..."  ?
[14:07] <ppf> you can have multiple addresses on one NIC. the legacy way was to create a 'virtual' NIC (ens0:1) and configure it. today, with ip, you can directly configure multiple addresses, by repeating the iface stanza
[14:07] <jink> ppf: I guess I'm too used to ifconfig. :)
[14:07] <jink> Yes, got it.
[14:07] <jink> Thanks for your help.
[14:08] <tatertots> rifter: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[14:09] <rifter> tatertots, yeah and I forgot to mention I am on lubuntu 16.10 (but the instructions should be the same as for other ubuntus)
[14:09] <tatertots> rifter: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[14:10] <tatertots> rifter: let me know once it's completed
[14:10] <rifter> ok I will do that now
[14:11] <rifter> both are now installed tatertots
[14:11] <rifter> among other things that got pulled in with them
[14:11] <tatertots> rifter: in terminal>        inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[14:12] <tatertots> rifter: press enter         share url/link here
[14:13] <rifter> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23893758/
[14:14] <tatertots> rifter: in terminal>        cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit
[14:14] <tatertots> rifter: press enter         share url/link here
[14:16] <rifter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23893773/
[14:16] <rifter> there you go tatertots
[14:17] <k1l> its an old SIS card. they are a real pain to work with
[14:17] <rifter> yeah
[14:17] <rifter> is that going to be part of it? hat you need a 3d driver?
[14:17] <rifter> er I mean a proprietary one or whatever
[14:18] <k1l> "There is no DRI/OpenGL/3D support for the SiS 6326, 5597/5598, 530/620, 315, 550, 650, 651, 740, 330, 661, 741, 760, 761 including all model variations with letters in the model number."
[14:18] <tatertots> rifter: the module for your video card failed to load properly
[14:18] <rifter> there you go. Oh well
[14:18] <k1l> http://askubuntu.com/a/204603/31260
[14:20] <rifter> I guess I wil have to leave that for a real machine :) thanks guys
[14:20] <tatertots> rifter: those old sis cards aren't going to net impressive 2d/3d performance
[14:20] <rifter> I forgot what the built in graphics were on this
[14:20] <rifter> well yeah, but I mean to use it for pretty light stuff like dosbox and fceux
[14:21] <rifter> the only impressive thing about this machine is what I can do on it at all :)
[14:21] <tatertots> rifter: (WW) Warning, couldn't open module sis
[14:21] <tatertots> rifter: (EE) Failed to load module "sis" (module does not exist, 0)
[14:22] <rifter> tatertots, I thought what kil was pointing to is a nonexistence of the kind of drivers I'd need
[14:22] <sirv> i still have an 3dfx card that has 2d graphics passthru
[14:23] <rifter> haha
[14:24] <tatertots> rifter: nonexistence goes right along with the error in your logs (EE) Failed to load module "sis" (module does not exist, 0)
[14:25] <rifter> yeah
[14:26] <rifter> what about sdl video
[14:26] <rifter> can I still do that?
[14:29] <rifter> oh looks like I have sdl libraries installed already
[14:30] <rifter> anyway thanks guys
[14:43] <heftig> where can i find old versions that were in xenial-updates but are no longer?
[14:45] <noc_> heftig, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[14:47] <heftig> noc_: apparently those only contain old ubuntu releases, not old packages for current releases
[14:47] <heftig> I need libglib2.0-0-dbg 2.48.1-1~ubuntu16.04.1
[14:47] <heftig> amd64.
[14:49] <Innokenty> with the debian packages fit on ubuntu
[14:50] <heftig> they might. not in general, though
[14:53] <velis> any /boot experts here? Having a hard time installing open-iscsi to initrd.img: the postinst script (from the .deb package) uses some utilities that are only available in full ubuntu install, but not in the /boot initrd.img. Are there any guides on how one installs software in there? (talking about placement of files / configuration, not unpacking / repacking the image file)
[14:57] <ali_> hi
[14:57] <tatertots> velis: open-iscsi should be simple to install, it's in the ubuntu repositories even, i'm sure there exists plenty of documentation on "usage"
[14:58] <velis> tatertots: yes, it's easy. but not to /boot. I don't know how to install it into /boot
[14:59] <tatertots> velis: without having elaborated on your goal or intentions after installation of open-iscsi, are you %100 certain you even need to?
[14:59] <velis> no, I'm not
[15:00] <anddam> how's the Launcher process called? I'd like to force-restart it
[15:00] <velis> but installing ubuntu to an iSCSI volume with /boot placed on a small local ssd, I'm left with an unbootable computer because the iSCSI  volume doesn't mount
[15:00] <tatertots> velis: so it's probably best to share what you are trying to accomplish,
[15:01] <tatertots> velis: what size is your lun?
[15:01] <Zen> Sounds like he needs the iSCSI drivers available at boot time
[15:01] <velis> tatertots: does my above post explain it sufficiently? I don't have PXE available, so I'm using a very small local storage for /boot and the main storage is supposed to be iSCSI
[15:01] <velis> also, what Zen said
[15:01] <tatertots> velis: what size is your lun?
[15:02] <velis> 4 TB
[15:02] <mcphail> velis: don't know if it will help in your case, but the usual way to install for exotic boot setups is to do the install from the CD, then chroot into your installed system from the live CD and install whatever package you need and then try to boot your system. I need to do this to install bcache-tools, for example
[15:04] <velis> I considered this, but would this not install open-iscsi to the iSCSI volume and not to the /boot initrd.img?
[15:04] <tatertots> velis: have you been able to present the lun to ubuntu and view/manage it's content? yes or no or "i have not tried"?
[15:04] <velis> yes
[15:05] <velis> everything works, except it mounting during boot. Boot doesn't mount the volume and therefore drops to initramfs prompt
[15:05] <nicomachus> I'm doing a backup of my /home folder to get ready to do a fresh reinstall. Anything I should backup outside of /home/?
[15:06] <tatertots> velis: is it waiting on a network connection to be established possibly?
[15:07] <velis> I don't think so. There's nothing in the initramfs that would suggest open-iscsi being setup. The error messages being printed out before it drops to prompt are exactly that: volume not found
[15:08] <BluesKaj> nicomachus, is /home on a separate partition?
[15:08] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: no.
[15:09] <nicomachus> The only partitions here are ubuntu and Windows, and I'm wiping out Windows finally. So just gonna do it with a fresh install
[15:11] <BluesKaj> nicomachus, recommend you use separate partitions for / and /home, then whmn you do an up grade or new install, you install to / and merely set the  mountpoint for  /home using manual partitoning. This method save all your config files for desktop and default aps etc
[15:12] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: I want to redo all of that anyway.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> scuse the typos
[15:12] <nicomachus> but I do see the advantage and your point.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> teah then this would be a good time to set up the partitions
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yeah
[15:13] <BluesKaj> saves a lot of work in the long run
[15:13] <ducasse> nicomachus: you might want to backup /etc, in case you need to see how you changed some config
[15:15] <nicomachus> ducasse: good call.
[15:16] <ducasse> nicomachus: you haven't got any vm images or containers under /var?
[15:16] <nicomachus> not on this puter
[15:17] <alkisg> velis: I don't know about open-iscsi, but I do know about other boot methods like nbd, nfs etc. So, if you run `dpkg -L open-iscsi | grep /usr/share/initramfs-tools`, you'll see if it puts anything inside the initramfs or not
[15:18] <alkisg> velis: or, find /usr/share/initramfs-tools -iname '*scsi*'
[15:18] <BluesKaj> hey ducasse , good suggestion about /etc , that should save some work as well :-0
[15:18] <BluesKaj> err :-)
[15:18] <velis> trying now, thanks
[15:20] <alkisg> velis: I see in its file list that it does put stuff into the initramfs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/i386/open-iscsi/filelist
[15:20] <ducasse> BluesKaj: easier than needing to look up how to configure something all over again :)
[15:21] <velis> alkisg: dpkg -L shows one  initramfs-tools hook & one script
[15:22] <BluesKaj> ducasse, yeah like /etc/openvpn crts and .ovpn files
[15:22] <alkisg> velis: right, the hooks copies stuff into the initrd.img, and then the script starts it on boot
[15:22] <alkisg> velis: when you get to the busybox prompt, do you see /sbin/iscsistart ?
[15:22] <velis> you mean at install time?
[15:22] <alkisg> velis: at update-initramfs time, when you install or update kernels
[15:23] <alkisg> velis: and sure, at iscsi package installation time
[15:23] <velis> no, I mean: I had all this set up when I started ubuntu installation. But the resulting /boot image does not have any of that
[15:24] <alkisg> velis: they are compressed inside initrd.img
[15:24] <alkisg> velis: you cannot see them with plain ls
[15:24] <velis> I know
[15:24] <velis> I decompressed it
[15:24] <velis> and it has nothing
[15:24] <alkisg> velis: no /sbin/iscsistart there?
[15:24] <velis> related to open-iscsi, i mean
[15:24] <velis> except the kernel modules
[15:24] <velis> no
[15:24] <velis> none
[15:25] <alkisg> velis: try to run `update-initramfs -u`, and then run cpio to unzip, and check again
[15:25] <velis> while I have the chroot into the install?
[15:25] <alkisg> velis: what chroot?
[15:26] <velis> Right now I'm typing this from a livecd session
[15:26] <velis> from within this session I can mount the iscsi volume as well as the /dev/sda1 (/boot)
[15:26] <alkisg> velis: eh ok then, chroot into it and run update-initramfs there, although you might need to specify the kernel then if it's not the same
[15:27] <alkisg> Check for error messages while doing so
[15:27] <velis> presumably I'd be running update-initramfs against the installed image, not against the livecd session?
[15:27] <velis> no, kernel is the same
[15:27] <velis> I can even restart the procedure from scratch, there's nothing here yet
[15:27] <alkisg> no need to
[15:27] <alkisg> Try chrooting, yes
[15:28] <alkisg> If you see error messages, mention them
[15:28] <velis> ok, but it will take some time
[15:29] <alkisg> update-initramfs should take a few seconds
[15:29] <velis> yes, but I don't currently have the iSCSI volume attached. I need to account for the new initiator ID in the target and mount it
[15:30] <alkisg> velis: btw, why iscsi instead of e.g. nbd or nfs?
[15:30] <C0r3> Hey somebody please guide me recover my data. I lost my data in a partition.
[15:31] <ikevin> C0r3, use testdisk :)
[15:32] <C0r3> ikevin: How to do that?
[15:32] <ikevin> C0r3, umount your disk, do a testdisk /dev/your_disk
[15:33] <ikevin> C0r3, you will find a step by step howto here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[15:33] <C0r3> ikevin: I just installed it using sudo apt install testdisk
[15:40] <velis> alkis: because I don't know nbd or nfs. I figured iSCSI would be the best way, but since you mention these two, I might also give them a go. The primary idea here is to use my small local storage also as cache for the iSCSI volume. The primary objective being to have all storage cetralised
[15:41] <velis> anyway, I attached the iSCSI volume, bot now LVM won't map the logical volumes there. It recognises them fine, but won't create the appropriate /dev/ mappings
[15:43] <Lachezar> Hey all. Got a bigger monitor to attach to my laptop, but: when I close the lid, the screen stays on (good), but if I lock my laptop I can only unlock it with the lid up. How come?
[15:43]  * Lachezar is using Xubuntu 16.10
[15:49] <bercomic_> Hi
[15:51] <velis> alkis: ok, this is the point where I'm to stumped: I mounted the iSCSI partition (btrfs), but it's empty?!?!?
[15:51] <velis> at this point I'm just scratching all of it and redoint the install
[15:51] <velis> I will attempt your suggestions to see if I make it any further
[15:53] <ducasse> velis: nfs would be a whole lot simpler, and more tested
[15:53] <velis> but isn't nfs a network file protocol, such as SMB?
[15:54] <ducasse> velis: yes, do you need block?
[15:54] <velis> yes, wikipedia suggests it is: I'm aiming for a block protocol that can be cached
[15:54] <nicomachus> can't seem to get this USB to boot. idk why. I get busybox and it says there's no bootable live medium found, but I'm booting from the USB that I just successfully created. I don't see where the issue is...
[15:55] <Gimme2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt4aO3ISVlM Ботаник - Дюна + Н.Сенчукова
[15:55] <nicomachus> !ru | Gimme2
[15:56] <ubuntu-mate> Ahoj
[15:56] <ubuntu-mate> Hello
[15:56] <ubuntu-mate> I am testing this chat program. How are you?
[15:57] <nicomachus> hi ubuntu-mate
[15:57] <ubuntu-mate> Hi nicomachus
[15:58] <nicomachus> ubuntu-mate: this channel is for Ubuntu support only. You can use ##chat or #ubuntu-offtopic to just chat, or use #freenode to ask questions about IRC. Join a channel by typing "/join #channelname" (without the quotes)
[15:59] <adalbert> Hey, how can i configure ddclient to use the WAN ip instead of my local IP when i'm behind a router ?
[16:00] <ubuntu-mate> Where can I find chatrooms-list and other special commands for the chat?
[16:01] <alkisg> velis: i'm alkisg, while alkis is another person :)
[16:01] <alkisg> reading your messages...
[16:02] <alkisg> velis: from what I'm reading, ltsp fat clients might suit you just fine... google for "ltsp-pnp"
[16:02] <velis> sorry
[16:02] <alkisg> velis: they're using nbd by default, it's also possible to use nfs
[16:03] <alkisg> velis: you can also boot multiple computers from one installation, and they use sshfs for shared /home
[16:04] <velis> I read you're the developer for that?
[16:04] <alkisg> Yup
[16:05] <velis> I'll read about it to see whether it's what I seek
[16:05] <velis> and THEN install :)
[16:05] <alkisg> Right :)
[16:05] <alkisg> Basically if you have one pc with central storage, you can then netboot any number of diskless clients
[16:06] <alkisg> (or with only local kernel/initrd, if you prefer)
[16:08] <velis> not a terminal server? I just got to the point where LTSP is a terminal server. I don't need that. Actually, my storage server has a very weak CPU. My workstations do not
[16:09] <alkisg> velis: in the new age, it's a terminal server for fat clients, which means the programs run on the clients, which means it can even be a nas with weak cpu etc
[16:09] <velis> ah, ok
[16:09] <alkisg> velis: years ago it had started as a terminal server for thin clients only, that's no longer the recommended use case
[16:10] <alkisg> velis: is your server the same architecture as your clients? e.g. amd64 both?
[16:10] <velis> interesting. Then it seems to be just the thing for me
[16:10] <velis> yes, architecture is the same
[16:10] <velis> all new CPUs here
[16:10] <alkisg> Sounds fine then
[16:10] <alkisg> For example, you can netboot 20 fat clients from a single core atom server
[16:10] <citizen_> How to search for applications?
[16:11] <nicomachus> hey, those clients don't you to fat-shame them alkisg
[16:11] <akik> alkisg: what's a fat client?
[16:11] <alkisg> akik: it's a diskless, netbooted client, that gets the os from the network, but runs in locally, with its own cpu/ram
[16:11] <akik> alkisg: like nfs root or something else?
[16:11] <citizen_> I recently switched from windows 7, and I was wondering how you can search for apps.
[16:12] <alkisg> akik: yes, but you only need 1 installation to boot as many clients as you want
[16:12] <alkisg> akik: there's an option for nbd or nfs or aoe root, we don't support iscsi yet
[16:12] <velis> Presumably they're all roughly the same configuration?
[16:12] <velis> as in SW, I mean?
[16:13] <alkisg> We have computer labs that have pentium 3 and core i7 booted from the same image
[16:13] <alkisg> Yes, the same sw
[16:13] <velis> nice
[16:20] <jana> hello, can anybody tell me a way to get the fn keys working on my vaio notebook? i already added the vendor in the /etc/default/grub and tried xbacklight
[16:24] <cisstrd> ubuntu 16.10, unity (default install), wifi network "Automatically connect to this network when it is available", yet upon disconnects sometimes I am prompted to click ok so that it reconnects (field with the wifi-name, the password (already filled) and me hitting "ok"), which is of course stupid
[16:24] <cisstrd> why doesn't it automatically reconnect without asking?
[16:25] <kang0> Is it possible multiple bootloaders on mbr
[16:25] <kang0> What's vbr
[16:27] <anddam> kang0: it is possible but not at the same time
[16:27] <anddam> you can chainload
[16:27] <anddam> is the one about vbr an actual question?
[16:27] <tomreyn> cisstrd: i think you max get around this by ticking the option in the connection preferences to make the connection available globally / system wide
[16:28] <tomreyn> or the other way around, not sure
[16:28] <tomreyn> i think this issue is due to a race condition which could be considered a bug in network-manager
[16:30] <kang0> anddam yes explain about vbr
[16:30] <kang0> anddam how to chain load
[16:30] <kang0> And  when it is used or use case
[16:31] <anddam> kang0: I'm not sure what you're saying, also I'm leaving in a minute so I won't be able to help you
[16:48] <cisstrd> tomreyn: s/could/should
[16:49] <cisstrd> tomreyn: but thanks, good to know
[16:49] <acresearch> hello ubuntu people, i have corrected a error in the ubuntu arabic keyboard layout for apple computers, how can I submit my work to the ubuntu developers so they can include it in their future releases?
[16:49] <mikeymop> can someone explain this to me
[16:49] <mikeymop> ps aux | grep weechat
[16:49] <mikeymop> is get
[16:49] <mikeymop> mikey     5321  0.0  0.0  14224   924 pts/3    S+   11:48   0:00 grep weechat
[16:49] <mikeymop> so i pkill -9 14224
[16:49] <mikeymop> ps aux | grep weechat
[16:49] <mikeymop> it's still there
[16:50] <mikeymop> i run htop, and dont see weechat anywhere, even if I search
[16:50] <mcphail> mikeymop: of course it is. All you are seeing is your own "ps" command
[16:50] <mcphail> being piped through the grep
[16:50] <mikeymop> this explains the grep weechat on the end
[16:50] <mikeymop> that makes sense, ty
[16:50] <mcphail> indeed
[16:50] <mcphail> :)
[16:51] <NickBelarus> ps aux | grep weechat should produce two lines
[16:51] <mikeymop> now i know
[16:51] <mikeymop> well, my ssh connection just dies sometimes
[16:51] <mikeymop> but it's always once a day
[16:51] <mikeymop> either around this time 1130ish, or 315ish
[16:51] <mikeymop> i'm trying to figure out why, and sometimes when it DC's I lose my weechat session and have to kill it
[16:53] <cisstrd> mikeymop: side-note: with pkill you can do something like # pkill weechat
[16:53] <ducasse> mikeymop: run weechat in tmux
[16:54] <cisstrd> with the kill command you have to use PID # kill -s KILL 14224
[16:54] <mikeymop> can I? I thought so. I remember doing that a while ago however I wasn't sure if it was workin because of my ps aux confusion
[16:54] <mikeymop> ducasse: i do
[16:54] <minimec> acresearch: search for the package in packages.ubuntu.com and contact the 'Maintainer'. Other possibility would be to file a bug for the given package in launchpad and describe your solution...
[16:54] <ducasse> minimec: then why kill weechat? you can just reattach to it
[16:55] <ducasse> mikeymop: ^^
[16:55] <mikeymop> in this case, today, it was for another reason
[16:55] <mikeymop> where it was bugging out
[16:55] <mikeymop> when my ssh connectoin 'write failed, connection reset by peer' happens
[16:56] <mikeymop> and i try to reconect, ssh behaves extremely slowly, so I kill weechat so I can at least use ssh for the few minutes until it the connection fixes itself
[16:56] <cisstrd> acresearch: this might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs don't feel overwhelmed, this covers all sorts of various procedures for different bugs and is quite a thorough description
[16:56] <jcjordyn120> um wiki.ubuntu.com is giving me a http 500 wrror.
[16:56] <jcjordyn120> *error
[16:56] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: it's up for me
[16:56] <cisstrd> no errors
[16:57] <jcjordyn120> oh.
[16:57] <cisstrd> problem definitely on your end
[16:57] <jcjordyn120> I've tried on different ends.
[16:57] <jcjordyn120> links, firefox. and 2 different ISPS too.
[16:59] <jcjordyn120> oh and I'm using this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/MovingChannels
[16:59] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: https://s27.postimg.org/iusizgxlv/Screenshot_from_2017_01_30_17_59_10.png
[17:00] <ppf> jcjordyn120: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[17:00] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: your link works for me too
[17:00] <jcjordyn120> well what would cause a HTTP 500 error?
[17:02] <genii> jcjordyn120: "Internal Server Error" , which is what error 500 is, is like a catch-all error for "we're not sure what exactly happened but the server has a problem"
[17:02] <acresearch> cisstrd: thanks
[17:02] <jcjordyn120> genii, ah
[17:02] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: clear browser cache maybe
[17:02] <jcjordyn120> already did.
[17:02] <cisstrd> and delete cookies
[17:03] <cisstrd> associated with the wiki.ubuntu site
[17:03] <jcjordyn120> um how do I do that with firefox?
[17:03] <Tahr-Poop> Is Reiser4 supported in ubuntu kernel or do i have to patch it?
[17:04] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: preferences -> privacy -> then look under history, select "use custom settings for history"
[17:04] <jcjordyn120> ah
[17:04] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: show cookies -> then delete the relevant ones
[17:04] <acresearch> minimec: i cannot find the package for the keyboard, does it have a specific name?
[17:05] <jcjordyn120> cisstrd, there are no cookies.
[17:06] <minimec> acresearch: what file did you change?
[17:06] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: yes, wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to use cookies, my bad, couldn't know that
[17:06] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: though if it were using them this actually could have fixed it
[17:06] <jcjordyn120> ah
[17:07] <acresearch> minimec: 1 moment i will find you the path
[17:07] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: just let it rest for a while if possible and revisit the site later
[17:08] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: I copy-pasted your link, you can see it here http://dpaste.com/2VSRQCR
[17:08] <cisstrd> jcjordyn120: well not the link, the site's info from your link
[17:08] <quickwritereader> join #bountysource
[17:08] <cisstrd> quickwritereader: you have to do /join #bountysource
[17:08] <quickwritereader> yes ))
[17:08] <acresearch> minimec: the path is as follows: /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ara    the ara file
[17:09] <jcjordyn120> cisstrd, ah
[17:10] <minimec> acresearch: Ok. Now try 'dpkg -S /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ara' in the terminal. If you are lucky, you will get that package name...
[17:10] <acresearch> minimec: i get this     xkb-data: /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ara
[17:11] <minimec> acresearch: So xkb-data is the package... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xkb-data&searchon=names
[17:12] <acresearch> minimec: brilliant thank you
[17:12] <minimec> acresearch: No problem... ;)
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[17:21] <global_var> The "write" command allows me to send a message to other users via the terminal but also displays my username along with the message. Is there a way I can send a message without having my username show up?
[17:29] <bigLanky> anyone have experience with running dual video card in ubuntu?
[17:29] <bigLanky> I have x2 GTX 1050 ti. Card 1 I want to power my center monitor and card #2 I want to power the other 2 monitors.
[17:29] <bigLanky> I can do 1&1, 2&0, and that seems to work ok... but when I try to do 2&1, shit goes wild
[17:31] <N4zguL> ubuntu hell yeah!
[17:32] <ubd> how can i set a program to run after 2 hours
[17:33] <rayvtirx> every 2 hours?
[17:33] <ubd> no just once
[17:33] <ubd> like a timer
[17:33] <velis> alkisg: update-initramfs completes with still no open-iscsi installed into the image. there are no error messages, but I do get two warnings: couldn't identify filesystem type for fsck hook, ignoring - and - grep: /proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory
[17:34] <ducasse> ubd: you can do 'sleep 2h ; whatever' or use at/atq
[17:34] <lobito> Hi. Anyone else getting "W:The repository 'http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file., W:Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use." while performing an update?
[17:34] <ubd> like sleep 2h ; nano ?
[17:35] <ducasse> ubd: yes
[17:35] <ubd> thank you very much
[17:35] <ducasse> np
[17:38] <wueste> @RalphBa ???
[17:38] <RalphBa> wueste, /msg RalphBa eintippen
[17:39] <RalphBa> here is english only
[17:41] <boss_> hello
[17:44] <alkisg> velis: is the initrd.img date recent? was it generated when you ran update-initramfs?
[17:45] <velis> I just generated it after adding "open-iscsi" into modules file
[17:45] <velis> yes, it's completely new
[17:46] <alkisg> velis: and you do have the open-iscsi package installed?
[17:46] <velis> naturally, my leap of faith didn't pay off :) that is not a recognised module
[17:46] <velis> yes
[17:46] <velis> no, wait
[17:46] <velis> not sure for the deploy
[17:47] <velis> hm, naturally it's not
[17:47] <velis> but apt is also not working
[17:47] <alkisg> velis: the open-iscsi package is what puts the things to your initramfs...
[17:47] <velis> agreed
[17:47] <alkisg> Hehe, you should start from there then
[17:47] <lobito> velis: i'm having trouble with apt, too
[17:47] <alkisg> Don't try to debug boot issues when you have a broken system :)
[17:47] <lobito> is something wrong with the repos?
[17:47] <velis> chroot seems to not work as easily as I hoped
[17:48] <alkisg> That's why we switched to ltsp-pnp
[17:48] <alkisg> No chroots there
[17:48] <lobito> i am behind a proxy, tho. could be the proxy malfunctioning
[17:48] <velis> no, as I said previously: I'm in livecd, manipulating a freshly installed target
[17:48] <velis> I have chroot-ed into the target
[17:48] <lobito> sorry, just joined
[17:48] <alkisg> velis: why would apt not work inside the chroot?
[17:48] <velis> that I don't know yet
[17:49] <velis> it says it can't resolve 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'
[17:49] <alkisg> Your resolv.conf may be wrong
[17:49] <alkisg> Put a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:49] <alkisg> That file points to /run, and you didn't bind-mount /run when you chrooted
[17:50] <alkisg> So you need to manually put a nameserver there
[17:50] <velis> yeah, it points to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[17:51] <velis> I only performed a chroot /target
[17:51] <velis> should I do more?
[17:52] <alkisg> velis: there are many things to do to "prepare" a chroot so that you can run things from inside it, check the ltsp-chroot code for details
[17:53] <alkisg> velis: you can bind-mount dirs like /sys or /dev or /dev/pts for some postinst scripts not to fail,
[17:53] <alkisg> velis: or you can set environment variables and create scripts for services not to start...
[17:53] <AcidGruel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqYOdo-0C1Q
[17:53] <alkisg> ltsp does all that in its ltsp-chroot script
[17:54] <velis> wow
[17:54] <alkisg> velis: for simple things though, a plain chroot command is enough
[17:54] <velis> well, seems my use-case is not "simple" :D
[17:54] <alkisg> velis: true, and you'll hit other problems when you actually start booting
[17:54] <alkisg> velis: why do you want to implement your own netbooting method, again? :D
[17:55] <velis> well, TBH, I thought it would be easy - and I still think that should be the case. I blame my woes on my lack of experience / knowledge
[17:56] <nacc> velis: what are you trying to do?
[17:56] <velis> besides, it's not that I rejected your suggestion, I'm just giving a one last go to my existing one
[17:56] <velis> macc: I'm trying to modify my /boot such that it would load open-iscsi and mouna an iscsi volume as root
[17:57] <alkisg> velis: a small example, when networking gets up, it'll get a new ip, and that will break your connection to the server, and that will make booting hang
[17:57] <velis> basically, have the OS in an iSCSI volume, but /boot on local storage
[17:57] <nacc> velis: why do you need to modify your /boot? I mean, you need to update the initrd, but that should be it (along with an appropriate fstab line)
[17:58] <nacc> velis: and, iirc, installing open-iscsi is sufficient to update the initrd by default now
[17:58] <alkisg> There's no fstab involved when you have no local fs
[17:58] <nacc> alkisg: heh, good point
[17:58] <nacc> velis: ok, so you'd need to update your bootloader config too, to pass various values
[17:58] <velis> yes, we got that far with alkisg, I'm trying to install open-iscsi now
[17:58] <alkisg> Right, it goes in cmdline
[17:58] <nacc> velis: i *believe* we updated open-iscsi in debian to allow root=iscsi:...
[17:59] <alkisg> True, I see local-top/iscsi checks for that
[17:59] <nacc> yep
[17:59] <alkisg> But velis didn't manage to put it in initrd yet
[17:59] <nacc> alkisg: ah ok
[17:59] <alkisg> He has apt issues inside the chroot that he works
[18:02] <velis> ok, unfortunately I need to go now. I will try to fix the apt issues tomorrow and update-initramfs. Then we'll see where that gets me. I get your reservations alkisg, but I'm hopeful that nacc's comment about root=iscsi means I should be OK :)
[18:03] <alkisg> velis: I don't think any initramfs handles os issues
[18:03] <alkisg> velis: if the os does a dhcp request, it'll break your iscsi connection
[18:04] <alkisg> bb
[18:04] <velis> Understook - I have a static lease on DHCP server, so that's not an issue
[18:04] <velis> gtg
[18:04] <velis> čaw
[18:04] <velis> thanks for the help so far both of you
[18:05] <alkisg> a static lease doesn't help
[18:07] <triemd> hi
[18:07] <triemd> how do i play mp4 videos ?
[18:07] <triemd> gstreamer ?
[18:07] <triemd> which to install ?
[18:07] <triemd> good,bad,ugly,base ?
[18:08] <triemd> why can't I play videos : ?
[18:08] <triemd> anyone knows
[18:09] <triemd> Required plugin could not be found
[18:09] <triemd> Videos requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: PGS subtitles decoder
[18:11] <Nethereal> hey guys, i have an ubuntu box which i forgot the root password on. Ive boot up with a live cd and can access the shadow files. I've tried replacing the hash / salt with a newly generated one (from temp123), but get a journalctl error about maintenance mode on boot. any advice?
[18:12] <Tahr-Poop> triemd, which player?
[18:13] <xangua> Subtitle decoder? What's the source of that video. triemd
[18:14] <triemd> videos
[18:14] <triemd> what's triemd ? Tahr-Poop xangua
[18:19] <DarkHorse> XQueryKeymap( display, szKey ); what this function return suppose i press 'a' key and szkey is char szkey[32]
[18:20] <DarkHorse> kindly reply please ; XQueryKeymap( display, szKey ); what this function return suppose i press key 'a'
[18:23] <nacc> DarkHorse: `man XQueryKeymap`?
[18:23] <craptalk> why cant my ubuntu LTS 16.04 cant change the icons?
[18:24] <DarkHorse> yeah i do it but found nothing useful.
[18:24] <craptalk> i already put it in .icons folder
[18:24] <craptalk> even /usr/share/icons for global access
[18:24] <craptalk> do you guys know why?
[18:24] <craptalk> but the theme is changed already
[18:24] <craptalk> is it different GTK version? i think i am having 3.0
[18:25] <DarkHorse> leave
[18:32] <xangua> craptalk: what icon theme is this?
[18:33] <knight_corvi> craptalk: are you using ubuntu tweak tool?
[18:42] <greystoke> hello, I need a little direction or help.  I have Ubuntu16.04 running on an micro VPS and I have setup a hangoutsbot and it works great as a bridge between slack and hangouts. i am using tmux to allow the bot to continue to operate when I close my terminal however once a day it crashes.  something was said about init.d... i am not an avid Ubuntu user, what can I do to make the bot persistent through crashes and reboots?
[18:43] <piranah> greystoke, Why not look into setting up a cron job to check that the bot is running. If its not it should be able to restart it.
[18:44] <nacc> or fix whatever is causing it to crash? seems unreliable (although the cron job may be reasonable regardless)
[18:44] <greystoke> i think its the elcheapo vps restarting everyday that is causing it
[18:44] <tornato> hey
[18:45] <greystoke> ok, i will google cron job unbuntu
[18:48] <Omnipotent> why executing two commands like this sudo service mongodb start && python main.py
[18:48] <Omnipotent> only the python part gets executed.
[18:49] <Omnipotent> and not the first part
[18:49] <greystoke> too much to assimilate at this time, the kids are going nuts. i guess i will just have to keep an eye on it for now
[18:50] <piranah> Omnipotent, Try changing it to sudo service mongodb start; python main.py
[18:52] <Omnipotent> still the first part gets skipped entirely.. only the second one executes.
[18:53] <nacc> Omnipotent: how are you determining that hte first part gets 'skipped'? If you've run this multiple times, mongodb is *already* running, so starting the service is a no-op
[18:53] <Omnipotent> No, I stopped it before running it
[18:53] <nacc> Omnipotent: and is it running after you run the above command?
[18:54] <Omnipotent> it is stopped and writing "mongo" doesn't conntect to it anymore
[18:54] <Omnipotent> No
[18:54] <Omnipotent> I stopped it before I ran the above command
[18:54] <Omnipotent> and since then it hasn't started
[18:54] <nacc> Omnipotent: ok, try runnin `sudo service mongodb start` and see if it works on its own then
[18:55] <Omnipotent> as in individually or with backticks?
[18:55] <Omnipotent> individually it works
[18:55] <nacc> either way, was just isolating the command to run
[18:55] <Omnipotent> yeah it works without && part
[19:06] <raj_iiitg> can anyone help me,How to run 64-bit application on 32-bit ubuntu?
[19:06] <edmont> hi
[19:10] <edmont> I have a sound problem with Zesty in an Asus Eee PC, with an Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller. Headphones are ok but buil-in speakers sound very very low, almost nothing at max volume
[19:10] <BluesKaj> raj_iiitg, unfortuntely you can't. you need 32 bit app versions
[19:10] <raj_iiitg> anyone is there who can helpme?
[19:12] <raj_iiitg> if i will do upgrade linux-image then?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> edmont, open alsamixer in the terminal and turn the vol  ctls up
[19:12] <edmont> I tried different Debian/Ubuntu/Mint live cds and same problem in all of them. But with Puppy Linux it works well
[19:12] <edmont> BluesKaj: already tries
[19:12] <edmont> tried*
[19:12] <tgm4883> raj_iiitg: you either need to be running a 64-bit distro, or you need to recompile the app to 32-bit
[19:12] <BluesKaj> raj_iiitg, is your pc/cpu 64bit?
[19:13] <raj_iiitg> cpu is 32-bit ubuntu 16.04.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> raj_iiitg, cpu is not ubuntu
[19:15] <tgm4883> raj_iiitg: what's the output of grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo
[19:16] <tgm4883> raj_iiitg: what's the output of "grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo "
[19:16] <raj_iiitg> ohh sorry, cpu is 64 architecture.
[19:17] <wwvd> Hi! I've been trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10. I succesfully installed Ubuntu but had problems with the boot launcher. I tried the boot-repair tool but again nothing shows up.. This was my boot-repair log: paste.ubuntu.com/23895213 - Could you be of any help? Thanks in advance
[19:17] <raj_iiitg> tgm4883:Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU  N3700  @ 1.60GHz
[19:18] <BluesKaj> raj_iiitg, recommend you install ubuntu 64bit
[19:18] <BluesKaj> !64bit
[19:19] <BluesKaj> raj_iiitg,^
[19:19] <raj_iiitg> how recommend?
[19:19] <Lucuuu> Hello guys, is anyone using PlayOnLinux with League Of Legends (new patch: 7.2) ?
[19:20] <tatertots> wvd: what operating system loads when the computer is turned on?
[19:20] <wvd> tatertots: Windows
[19:20] <dle> Hello. Installing 16.10 on my laptop as a dual-boot with W7. I'm wondering if I should use the newext4 partition for the boot loader installation,  or select the partition labelled as Windows 7 (loader)?
[19:21] <tatertots> wvd: is the 320gb drive set as the highest priority boot device in BIOS?
[19:22] <wvd> tatertots: this is an external HDD, and yes I've set that to highest priorirty to install Ubuntu actually
[19:22] <wvd> tatertots: or well, I've set USB HDD/FSD to highest priority in the BIOS
[19:23] <tatertots> wvd: is the 320gb drive set as the highest priority boot device in BIOS?, it is, with that being said, you'll need to adjust your BIOS boot priority according to your usage
[19:23] <wvd> tatertots: but this 320GB does not contain the Windows installation
[19:23] <wvd> tatertots: but it's probably NTFS, so you think that's causing it?
[19:24] <tatertots> wvd: you'll need to adjust your BIOS boot priority according to your intended usage
[19:24] <tatertots> wvd: or use the BIOS/systems boot selection menu to manually select the device you intend to boot to
[19:25] <gopper> Hey there, does anyone know why the old classic Human theme from the 2007-2008 Ubuntu era doesn't seem to make the titlebar orange, but keeps it gray and kind of "undefined" instead?
[19:25] <wvd> tatertots: if I press F12 (boot manager) only Windows boot launcher and Linux (Verbatim, which contains the boot-repair tool) are listed
[19:25] <gopper> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 mate
[19:26] <tatertots> wvd: are you chatting from that computer right now?
[19:26] <wvd> tatertots: yes on the Windows installation
[19:27] <tatertots> wvd: are you using boot-repair burned to a cdrom/dvdrom or usb
[19:28] <wvd> tatertots: USB, the Verbatim model (7812MB)
[19:28] <wvd> tatertots: I used the "common repair" function
[19:28] <tatertots> wvd: remove it from the computer
[19:28] <wvd> tatertots: ok, remove it and then restart?
[19:29] <tatertots> wvd: how many hard drives do you have?
[19:29] <wvd> tatertots: the external one (Samsung) and then the one in the PC
[19:29] <wvd> tatertots: external one only contains data
[19:29] <tatertots> wvd: what size is the drive "internal" to the pc?
[19:30] <wvd> tatertots: 1GB HDD, two major partitions I think which I've created during the Ubuntu installation
[19:31] <tatertots> wvd: what size is the samsung external?
[19:31] <wvd> tatertots: 320GB
[19:33] <dle> Ah. http://askubuntu.com/questions/219514/where-to-install-bootloader-when-installing-ubuntu-as-secondary-os suggests that the answer to my question is /dev/sda the device. Any yeys or nays out there?  :)
[19:33] <tatertots> wvd:  => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.
[19:34] <dle> Seems like tatertots and I are barking up the same tree.
[19:35] <tatertots> wvd: Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB has no boot loader
[19:36] <wvd> tatertots: makes sense, but could you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/635420/no-boot-loader-is-installed-in-the-mbr-of-dev-sda-is-that-some-pain-to-a-only
[19:37] <tatertots> wvd: boot the livecd/liveusb installation media, mount the file system, and install a boot loader
[19:40] <wvd> tatertots: ok, I'm gonna try that, thanks
[19:52] <nicomachus> I just did a fresh install of xenial, and installed openVPN, but when I go to set up new VPN connection in the network manager applet it doesn't show OpenVPN as an option -- just PTPP. Any idea why?
[19:53] <dle> Installing now. Looks at partitions in gparted. Why is the ext4 partition labeled /target ?
[19:53] <dle> looked*
[19:54] <OerHeks> nicomachus, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/760664/ubuntu-16-04-openvpn >> network-manager-openvpn-gnome is missing ?
[19:55] <cerion> nicomachus: you need to restart network manager too i think and the applet.
[19:55] <nicomachus> cerion: I rebooted the whole machine.
[19:56] <nicomachus> oh....
[19:56] <nicomachus> I installed openvpn, not network-manager-openvpn..... oops.
[20:02] <bigLanky> I have Ubuntu 16.04 LTS installed... If I want to use KDE desktop, do I need to install Kubuntu?
[20:02] <Dave114> having problems getting ubuntu 16 lts to boot on my mac mini.  Had to add nomodeset to grub to get it to boot ... but swapping that in place of "quiet splash" doesn't seem to work
[20:03] <ppf> bigLanky no, you can just install kde
[20:03] <Dave114> I *can* boot into recovery mode successfully ... and if I hit the resume boot option *twice* (i.e. first time it boots for a bit longer but then brings me back to same screen) I get a seemingly functional GUI... but with graphics sucking up most of my CPU
[20:04] <Dave114> with nomodeset on the boot it hangs at "loading initial ramdisk ..."
[20:04] <OerHeks> !info kubuntu-desktop
[20:05] <Dave114> (no additional proprietary drivers show up if I boot into recovery mode)
[20:07] <bigLanky> does KDE support more than 2 monitors?
[20:07] <bigLanky> im reading Unity does not play nice with more than 2, and I have ont been able to get my 3rd working
[20:08] <Ben64> what DE you use doesn't matter
[20:08] <bigLanky> Ben64, is there some trick to get it to work?
[20:09] <Ben64> depends on video card and monitors and stuff
[20:09] <bigLanky> i have 2 of the same vid cards... when using 2 monitors, any combination works just fine.. when I add the 3rd monitor things break down and im lucky to get 1 screen that is functional
[20:09] <bigLanky> 2 monitors are the same and 1 monitor is different
[20:09] <bigLanky> but when running 2, the monitors all work in any combo
[20:10] <bigLanky> have tried with NVIDIA X Server settings and couldn't get it to work
[20:10] <bigLanky> Ben64 : do you have any experience doing this?
[20:11] <Ben64> not two cards
[20:11] <pos> several vulns in current openssl: CVE-2016-7056, CVE-2016-8610, CVE-2017-3731
[20:12] <wafflejock> bigLanky, have only ever used 2 myself but xrandr may help to see what outputs it shows as connected
[20:13] <OerHeks> pos, i don't see them here http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[20:13] <wafflejock> pos, looks like at least the first is not an issue in openssl delivered with versions above 14.04 https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-7056.html
[20:14] <pos> wafflejock, apparently one of them only applies to 1.0.1
[20:15] <ppf> another week another critical openssl bug
[20:15] <ppf> when do they finally get their sh*t together...
[20:16] <ppf> bigLanky: what's the issue with the third monitor?
[20:19] <bigLanky> ppf when I hook it up, nothing displays... NVIDIA X Config sees all 3 monitors, when I try to open System -> Dispay I get CRT error
[20:19] <bigLanky> 1 sec let me reboot so I can put the vid card back in
[20:23] <ppf> what's a crt error
[20:24] <bigLanky> ok, so here is my setup now... I have both cards in... monitor #1 and #2 (same model) are hooked to video card 1, working just fine
[20:25] <bigLanky> monitor #3 hooked to vid card #2, no signal to monitor
[20:25] <bigLanky> Settings -> Displays shows #1 and #2, but not #3
[20:25] <ppf> paste the output of xrandr please
[20:27] <guest-6utpzh> Hi again. So I'm in. Yay!  16.10-amd64.
[20:28] <guest-6utpzh> So, as you can see by my nick, I'm logged-in as guest. I got my pw wrong. How can I reset it from the guest account?
[20:28] <gopper> Does anyone know why the titlebar colors of the classic Human theme don't work under Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:28] <ppf> guest-6utpzh: you can't
[20:29] <guest-6utpzh> Okay, so what *can* I do?
[20:29] <ppf> boot into the rescue mode, chroot into the system and change passwords from there
[20:29] <OerHeks> !password
[20:29] <bigLanky> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895645/
[20:30] <andi> Hi
[20:30] <ppf> bigLanky: now lspci
[20:31] <mandeep_> my files explorer isnt remembering to hide hidden files. is there something i can do to fix this?
[20:31] <andi> I do have a computer that just got a brand new x86_64 processor. :) Is that possible to update a i386 system to amd64?
[20:31] <xangua> andi: other than reinstall, no
[20:31] <ppf> andi: no, not really. it'll be quicker to reinstall
[20:31] <bigLanky> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895650/
[20:32] <ppf> is your third monitor plugged in properly?
[20:33] <bigLanky> yes
[20:33] <ppf> did you try other monitors, other cables on the second card
[20:33] <ioria> bigLanky, i think you already tried with nouveau ?
[20:33] <bigLanky> it shows with NVIDIA settings - https://s24.postimg.org/drgn60z6t/Screenshot_from_2017_01_30_13_33_24.png
[20:34] <bigLanky> yes, have tried another monitor, different cables
[20:34] <bigLanky> these work fine in windows
[20:34] <guest-6utpzh> thanks ppf.
[20:34] <bigLanky> NVIDIA X Server Settings show the monitor is disabled and I can assign it to a new screen
[20:35] <andi> Ok, thanks.
[20:36] <MarkB2> Something .. odd happened.  I started ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS 64-bit.  It started to come up.  Some a message blew across the display, the display started to flicker, and it looked like Unity failed somewhere.
[20:37] <MarkB2> Rebooted... and it's complaining about nouveau "missing".
[20:39] <MarkB2> At the moment, I'm running from the onboard video adapter, an Intel 915 device.  That seems to be working .. except X seems confused.
[20:39] <ioria> bigLanky, what video driver are  you using ?
[20:39] <bigLanky> latest NVIDIA
[20:40] <ioria> MarkB2, you can paste  sudo lshw -c Video
[20:40] <bigLanky> https://s24.postimg.org/3qn09uo91/Screenshot_from_2017_01_30_13_40_11.png
[20:40] <ioria> bigLanky,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[20:40] <MarkB2> ioria: One moment.. let me get a terminal up. I don't have a  desktop.. no launcher, no clock big purple/chartruse (sp?) display.
[20:41] <ioria> bigLanky,  ok
[20:41] <ioria> MarkB2, you can open a console
[20:41] <ioria> bigLanky, have you already tried with the opensource nouveau ?
[20:41] <bigLanky> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895686/
[20:42] <jonathan_> :v
[20:42] <bigLanky> I did, but I had 2 different cards in at the time
[20:42] <bigLanky> should I select the Nouveau and try that?
[20:43] <budRich> hello people. I would be really glad if someone could point me in the right direction here. I tried to install ubuntu (17.04 linuxium (yes i know it's OOS, but please i think the troubleshooting and questions i have are general for all ubuntu releases)). There was a bug in the installer and i now wants to create a new install usb. Problem is i only
[20:43] <budRich>  have access to my computyer from this liveCD(usb). The USB-key is 32gb, but when i open nautilus it say the disk is 2gb, with 1gb free... I want to download a new ISO (1,3gb) and make a new Live"CD".. ???
[20:43] <ioria> bigLanky, you can try
[20:43] <MarkB2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895698/   (will be back in a minute.. call of nature..)
[20:44] <bigLanky> ok, trying that now
[20:44] <budRich> download fails due to not enough space problematication
[20:44] <Ben64> budRich: check out their support channel if they have one, it's not supported here
[20:44] <mag009_> /wc
[20:44] <ioria> MarkB2, you can run unity with that card ?
[20:46] <budRich> Ben64, they have none, but i have been in contact with linuxium dev by mail. He told me to try the latest release, but i cant download it. And as i said, i *think* the problems im having now (not enough space on liveCD) is general and same troubleshooting should work for me.
[20:46] <Johnson1977> can someone help me with understanding this networking
[20:46] <Johnson1977> http://pastebin.com/D6UUD3py
[20:46] <bigLanky> ioria: I switch to the nouveau drivers and now I am down to just 1 monitor
[20:46] <Johnson1977> I have eth0 set to manual, yet it works as dhcp?
[20:47] <ioria> bigLanky, ok, reinstall nvidia then .... sy
[20:47] <budRich> but i understand (i have called OOS, many many times when i worked at Lenovo technical support), if you don't want to touch this. In that case i have to contact a human with an external computer to make me a new liveCD, i can handle it.
[20:47] <Ben64> budRich: sorry, but since you're not using ubuntu, this channel isn't for you, maybe try ##linux
[20:47] <bigLanky> ok, do I need to purge nvidia* first?
[20:48] <budRich> well, i am using ubuntu?
[20:48] <Ben64> budRich: you're not
[20:48] <budRich> ok, lets say i was, what would you sugest.
[20:48] <Ben64> no, stop playing stupid games
[20:48] <ioria> bigLanky, if you used the gui, just reinstall 375
[20:49] <Ben64> budRich: go to ##linux where all linux is supported, this channel is for Ubuntu ONLY
[20:49] <bigLanky> you mean select it from the additional drivers GUI?
[20:49] <ioria> bigLanky, yes
[20:49] <budRich> Ben64, ok, but i bet my hat, that they will say, goto #ubuntu
[20:50] <MarkB2> ioria: Apologies... I'm back.
[20:50] <ioria> MarkB2, you can run unity with that card ?
[20:51] <Vlada> Всем привет! I am from Moscow. Does anyone want to chat?
[20:51] <ioria> MarkB2,  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[20:51] <Vlada> Всем привет! I am from Moscow. Does anyone want to chat?
[20:51] <MarkB2> Right now it's running from the Intel 915 on the motherboard.  It ..was.. running off the 6200 this weekend.
[20:51] <marco__> q
[20:52] <MarkB2> ioria: I ran it.  Everything comes up "yes" .
[20:52] <ioria> MarkB2,   can you paste   cat ~/.xession-errors
[20:53] <MarkB2> one moment.
[20:53] <ioria> MarkB2,   can you paste   cat ~/.xsession-errors
[20:53] <MarkB2> ioria: Yah... I think so.  let me copy/paste to ubuntu.
[20:54] <ioria> MarkB2,   you can use pastebinit, if you want
[20:56] <MarkB2> ioria: no pastebinit on the system.  where would it normally be?
[20:56] <ioria> MarkB2,   you need to install it  ... apt get install pastebinit
[20:56] <ioria> MarkB2,   then    cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[20:57] <MarkB2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895750/
[20:58] <ppf> i'm contractually obliged to point out that pastebinit < ~/.xsession-errors is more better
[20:59] <ioria> MarkB2,   pastebinit < dmesg | grep Kernel
[20:59] <ppf> why are there upstart messages in there? you said you were on xenial
[21:00] <MarkB2> ioria: dmesg | grep kernel produces no output.
[21:00] <ioria> MarkB2,   dmesg | grep Kernel |pastebinit
[21:00] <ppf> MarkB2: note the K
[21:00] <MarkB2> Ah.  Will try again..
[21:01] <MarkB2> no output.  The dmesg has a LOT of lines about nouveau complaining.  "fail set domain", "validating bo list" "validate: -22"
[21:02] <ioria> MarkB2,  try again , please       dmesg | grep Kernel |pastebinit
[21:02] <MarkB2> There are 2499 lines of that nouvea complaint.   Retrying.
[21:03] <MarkB2> dmesg | grep Kernel produces no output.  I get another shell prompt.
[21:04] <MarkB2> Let me paste up a chunk of the dmesg output...
[21:05] <MarkB2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895783/
[21:05] <ioria> MarkB2, where are you now ? in recovery ? in console ? in gui ?
[21:07] <MarkB2> When the displays started flashing and things running amuck, I typed CTRL ALT F6 (I think.. many of the alternate consoles weren't responding) and stopped lightdm.  ran  "startx"  and was able to get a shell & then firefox.
[21:07] <Mrokii> Hello. How are drives mounted when they're not in fstab? I have a 2nd harddrive that is available when I start the desktop but it doesn't have an fstab-entry, so I was wondering how this is done. If anybody could point me to a tutorial instead of explaining it all in here, that would be fine, too.
[21:08] <ioria> MarkB2,  ls -l ~/.xauthority
[21:08] <ioria> MarkB2,  ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[21:08] <bigLanky> ioria: I selected the NVIDIA drivers, rebooted, back to first card with 2 monitors working and 2nd card w/3rd monitor not working
[21:08] <bigLanky> it shows up in nvidia settings though
[21:09] <MarkB2> ioria: No file.
[21:09] <ioria> bigLanky, i was thinking nouveau would have worked ...
[21:09] <MarkB2> I have a .ICEauthority .
[21:09] <MarkB2> There is an .Xauthority?
[21:09] <bigLanky> no go on that :(
[21:09] <bigLanky> im going to fiddle with nvida settings a bit, try running as root see if that helps
[21:09] <ioria> MarkB2,  so you don't even get to the login screen ? right ?
[21:10] <MarkB2> ioria: That is correct.  I do have a .Xauthority.  I own it, it's in my group, and it's 147 bytes long.
[21:11] <MarkB2> Hm.  .Xauthority  has a .. ?MAGIC-COOKIE-1 in it.
[21:11] <ioria> MarkB2,  what happened (or what have you done) before the crash ?
[21:12] <ioria> MarkB2,  and don't use startx, exit from there , get to a console and run  sudo service lightdm restart
[21:12] <MarkB2> When the crash occurred, there was some long message that flashed across the display.  something about nouveau.  the display cleared then I get purple screens flashing in my face.  CTRL ALT F7 (I think) gave me a blank screen .. then I get a login: prompt.
[21:13] <MarkB2> Logged in, stopped lightdm, and that stopped the flashing screens (Yes, I went back and looked).
[21:13] <ioria> MarkB2,  uname -r    ?
[21:13] <MarkB2> I've been ..afraid.. to reboot the box.
[21:13] <MarkB2> One moment
[21:13] <ppf> MarkB2: what about the kernel line
[21:13] <MarkB2> Linux p630 4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:14] <k1l> dont use startx on a regular ubuntu desktop setup. look at the owner of the files in your users home.
[21:14] <Tahr-Poop> Mrokii, i guess its using udev to automount
[21:14] <Guest12107> Hi again. Was guest-xxxxx remembered my newpw after all. :)
[21:14] <ioria> MarkB2,  reboot and try to open a console
[21:15] <Mrokii> Tahr-Poop: Okay, I'll look into that. Thanks.
[21:15] <MarkB2> ioria: <gulp>  Okay... .. here goes..
[21:15] <camthesaxman> Is it save to make a link from /usr/include/asm to /usr/include/asm-generic? I'm compiling a program that asks for asm/errno.h, but I just have asm-generic/errno.h.
[21:16] <camthesaxman> s/save/safe
[21:16] <dle> Is it just me. or is the Ubuntu Software app a little rough?
[21:16] <ioria> MarkB2,  uname -r gave you all that output ?
[21:16] <ppf> camthesaxman: install gcc-multilib
[21:17] <ppf> although that may be overkill
[21:17] <anddam> can I remap a couple keys from "English (international AltGr dead keys)" keyboard?
[21:17] <anddam> or derive one from that
[21:17] <ppf> camthesaxman: adding the symlink is perfectly safe
[21:17] <camthesaxman> ppf, I already did. I need c11 and c++14 support, so I added https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test, and I installed gcc-6-multilib and g++-6-multilib and linux-libc-dev.
[21:18] <camthesaxman> I'm also compiling with the -m32 switch because I need to produce 32-bit binaries.
[21:19] <ioria> MarkB2,  are you sure you are on a standard ubuntu ?
[21:22] <ppf> ioria: seems to be gone
[21:22] <ioria> i see
[21:22] <ericsysmin> If I wanted to install SELinux on Ubuntu, how would I perform it without the apt install prompting me in another window. (which breaks my shell script)
[21:23] <ppf> ericsysmin: ubuntu uses apparmor
[21:23] <ericsysmin> yes, but I want to install selinux
[21:23] <ericsysmin> so I remove apparmor
[21:24] <ppf> what's the apt prompt you're worried about?
[21:24] <ericsysmin> it's a screen just warning to restart
[21:24] <ericsysmin> i think i will try with -q
[21:24] <ericsysmin> nope
[21:27] <bigLanky> so I think I found the issue I was having
[21:28] <bigLanky> 1) needed to run nvidia-settings as root
[21:28] <bigLanky> 2) the xorg.conf file on my system was not writable by the program, what I did was move the original to a backup then saved a fresh copy through NVIDIA settings... all 3 monitors are working now :)
[21:28] <bigLanky> Thanks ppf and ioria for helping me debug!
[21:33] <MarkB2> Too...much...flashing...purple.
[21:34] <ppf> MarkB2: cat /etc/*-release please
[21:35] <ppf> and dmesg | grep Kernel | pastebinit
[21:35] <MarkB2> At the moment, everything is running except the Nvidia 6200.  That seems .. gone.  Now I have a single display running off the Intel 915 .  Let me get the release up..
  First I'll see about installing pastebinit .
[21:36] <MarkB2> Okay.. pastebinit is in.
[21:38] <MarkB2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895936/  That's got the Kernel grep in it.  Now for /etc/*release .
[21:39] <MarkB2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23895939/  and there is the release information
[21:42] <Bashing-om> bigLanky: Wow .. Great ! After watching you struggle with this for a week .. What a relieve it is :)
[21:43] <bigLanky> lol no kidding... it has been a long few days
[21:45] <splash_wave> hey
[21:46] <splash_wave> im trying to install 4.10 Warty Warthog and in the installation I get cdrom cant be found
[21:48] <Bashing-om> splash_wave: current release -LTS- is 16.04 . There will and is no support for 4.10 .
[21:48] <nacc> splash_wave: uh, why would you be installing warty?
[21:50] <ppf> MarkB2: and is everything working now?
[21:50] <MarkB2> One moment.. on phone...
[21:51] <protn> hi, I am using 14.04 remmina to connect to   win server 2012 rdp
[21:51] <splash_wave> I like using vintage stuff
[21:51] <protn> I can telnet but remmina yet to work
[21:51] <splash_wave> does Warty have SATA support or just IDE?
[21:51] <protn> I tried rdp and all nla and negotiate
[21:52] <k1l> splash_wave: warty is out of support long time. you will not get support for that anymore.
[21:52] <splash_wave> i dont need support though
[21:52] <splash_wave> i dont need updates and such
[21:53] <nacc> splash_wave: you're in the support channel...
[21:53] <MarkB2> ppf: Sorry.  Boss calls up and wants something.  The Intel 915 video is working nicely (I'm getting 1280 x 1024 out of it).  But the NVidia interface isn't working right... because booting into that produces flashing purple displays.
[21:54] <MarkB2> I should say, "Booting using that produces flashing purple displays".
[21:54] <DiscountMilk> how can i enable root to be auto logged in to the serial console? i followed this tutorial and it only got me a log in prompt :-( https://www.hiroom2.com/2016/06/06/ubuntu-16-04-grub2-and-linux-with-serial-console/
[21:55] <Bashing-om> DiscountMilk: " only got me a log in
[21:55] <nacc> DiscountMilk: why would you want to do that? seems incredibly insecure to grant root-level privilege to anyone with physical access?
[21:55] <Bashing-om>                       prompt " is what a comsole interfasce is :)
[21:56] <DiscountMilk> so with getty i can do a '-a root' and that gets an auto log in
[21:56] <DiscountMilk> do not worry about why, this is what i want to do to my machines
[21:56] <DiscountMilk> ive gotten it with 14.X versions of ubuntu
[21:57] <DiscountMilk> this tutorial had me play with grub instead using /etc/init settings
[21:57] <nacc> DiscountMilk: presumably you'd need to add an appropriate /etc/init/tty*.conf and rebuild the initrd (if i had to guess)
[21:58] <nacc> DiscountMilk: that's what spawns gettys with systemd, iiuc
[22:00] <DiscountMilk> mhmmm
[22:00] <protn> any help with remmina?
[22:00] <DiscountMilk> maybe #Gentoo will know
[22:02] <nicomachus> I'm pretty sure the Gentoo channel is on a separate server that has to be compiled manually user-side
[22:03] <koffeinfriedhof> :D
[22:04] <DiscountMilk> hey at least they know shit. i come here and the first replies are always "actually you dont want to do that." yes. yes i do very much want to do the thing. im not somebodys mom setting up their ubuntu machine, im forced to use it in the env im in
[22:07] <nicomachus> !language | DiscountMilk
[22:09] <ppf> DiscountMilk: maybe this'll help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Getty#Automatic_login_to_virtual_console
[22:10] <DiscountMilk> ah ubuntu 16 switched to systemd
[22:10] <DiscountMilk> thats why
[22:10] <DiscountMilk> ugh systemd is why i left arch for gentoo lol
[22:11] <EriC^^> you can run but you can't hide from systemd
[22:11] <ppf> i think it's awesome. but that's a matter of taste
[22:11] <DiscountMilk> horrid
[22:11] <DiscountMilk> inittab ftw
[22:11] <DiscountMilk> simple and it works
[22:11] <ppf> (in comparison to gentoo)
[22:11] <DiscountMilk> but looks like thats what i needed to know
[22:11] <DiscountMilk> oh well, thanks
[22:16] <ismdeep> Hi
[22:18] <the_count> hello! I installed KDE Plasma alongside Unity and then removed it, ever since, at any random interval, Unity is KDE themed, I have tried about everything, purging and reinstalling Unity, removing everything KDE related, but the problem persists.
[22:19] <Apachez> when ubuntu 16.10 boots the first part (vmlinuz?) is regular text but once initrd fires up the resolution goes hires... is it possible to make the "vmlinuz" part also go hires during boot?
[22:21] <pavlos> DiscountMilk, take a look at /etc/securetty
[22:26] <the_count> Anyone?
[22:32] <akik> the_count: did you remove all the kde packages?
[22:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: Long fight with unity .. want to try and reset back to defaults ?
[22:32] <akik> the_count: i had to go into the apt history log file and remove the packages listed there
[22:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: :D I'm game I haven't really changed anything from defaults
[22:33] <the_count> akik: I hadn't thought of that
[22:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: well .. akik has the greater ecperience here . Might be nest to follow his advise and make sure all KDE files are removed .
[22:35] <the_count> akik: Where do I find the apt history log file?
[22:35] <akik> the_count: when i installed kde i installed the kubuntu-desktop meta package. then when i tried to remove the whole kde installation it only removed the kubuntu-desktop
[22:35] <akik> the_count: /var/log/apt/
[22:35] <genii> the_count: Also /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:36] <the_count> akik: That's what  I did as well, and then I did a purge of kde*, and it worked for a month maybe and now, it is popping up again
[22:36] <akik> the_count: i think there could be some option to remove all the dependent packages also but i forgot
[22:39] <the_count> THere is quite the list there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23896236/
[22:39] <akik> i think it could be "sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove package" ?
[22:40] <akik> ah it's the --auto-remove
[22:40] <xubuntu62i> Gello?
[22:40] <xubuntu62i> Hello?
[22:41] <akik> sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove package
[22:41] <the_count> akik: It is no longer installed, and so, it isn't finding it
[22:41] <the_count> akik: That's what I did
[22:41] <akik> the_count: oh well but the file contains the installation information which you can use
[22:42] <xubuntu62i> Does anyone know why when I download 64-bit Ubuntu they become corrupt? While 32-bit is okay...?
[22:42] <k1l> xubuntu62i: change the mirror? did you check md5sum?
[22:42] <EriC^^> xubuntu62i: try a torrent
[22:43] <xubuntu62i> They're all wrong. And I tried several mirrors
[22:43] <EriC^^> xubuntu62i: your isp might have a bad cache
[22:43] <xubuntu62i> Maybe. I'll check soon but now I am on a VM installing Ubuntu
[22:44] <xubuntu62i> Does anyone of you using Ubuntu on VM? How do you fix performance?
[22:44] <xubuntu62i> VirtualBox of course
[22:44] <k1l> install guest additions and give the VM more ressources
[22:45] <xubuntu62i> I don't know how to put them
[22:46] <khaled01> Hello Friends
[22:46] <the_count> akik: The log doesn't contain just a list, it has a whole lot of other unnessesary information as well which apt can't process
[22:51] <mp68> hi, ubuntu yakkety, i've accidentally messed up uvcvideo and now it won't load, so my webcam doesn't work. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/raw/f3wGfWef how can I reinstall uvcvideo to fix this?
[22:55] <dspr72> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro retina
[22:57] <genii> mp68: The uvcvideo.ko file is part of the package linux-image-generic. But depending on HOW you messed it up, reinstalling that might now help. ( like if you made edits to udev scripts for instance which are supposed to detect the camera)
[22:58] <genii> s/now/not
[22:58] <qwebirc55289> hi
[23:00] <qwebirc55289> anyone here?
[23:02] <qwebirc55289> hi
[23:02] <genii> qwebirc55289: It just happens to be quiet at the moment. If you have an Ubuntu support question, just state it briefly and with some useful information into the channel generally, and someone may help.
[23:02] <qwebirc55289> thanks genii
[23:03] <qwebirc55289> this is my problem: Create a file named substandard in your home directory that contains the file names and lines (the data, not the line numbers) in the grades files where students scored less than ten out of a hundred
[23:04] <qwebirc55289> I have to do it in one command
[23:04] <qwebirc55289> I just don't know where to start
[23:05] <genii> Sounds like homework which they want you to accomplish with shell commands, and not really a support question
[23:05] <qwebirc55289> general question
[23:07] <genii> qwebirc55289: The basic idea would be to use grep recursively with a regex and redirect with append to this file
[23:08] <qwebirc55289> thanks genii...
[23:08] <Josh_> hey i'm having the could not resolve issue
[23:09] <misternumberone> genii: mp68 here, thanks, i had both done stuff to the file itself and used udevadm after putting files in /etc/udev/rules.d/, i've now reversed the latter, if i reinstall linux-image-generic should it replace the kernel module with an unmodified one?
[23:09] <Josh_> i think it is some problem with namespaces or something but I don;t know what to do]
[23:09] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu Josh_
[23:10] <Josh_> 16.04 LTS server
[23:10] <bazhang> Josh_, you got that when trying to update sources or what
[23:10] <Josh_> ya from sudo apt-get update
[23:10] <bazhang> Josh_, why not try another server then
[23:11] <Josh_> what do you mean?
[23:11] <bazhang> Josh_, try another to server to get the update on
[23:11] <Josh_> how do i do that?
[23:12] <genii> misternumberone: Hopefully, yes
[23:12] <k1l> Josh_: can you run "sudo apt update " and show the output on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:12] <bazhang> Josh_, I'm not sure on how to do that with a server, just desktop, why not ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:12] <Rockhopper> hi all
[23:13] <wilbert> oin #archlinux
[23:13] <bazhang>  /join
[23:13] <genii> misternumberone: Normally I'd suggest to purge the package before reinstalling, but this is a kernel package so that's a bit dangerous
[23:15] <Rockhopper> Is there someway to install docear as an application on Ubuntu? I mean I have to launch a shell script now. I want it as an app that can be launched from the launcher for example.
[23:15] <misternumberone> genii: currently running on the affected kernel so will need to reboot into different one
[23:16] <genii> mishugashu[m]: The problem is linux-image-generic is for whatever the running kernel is
[23:18] <Rockhopper> Anyone?
[23:18] <fujihc> \quit
[23:20] <k1l> !info docear | Rockhopper
[23:21] <k1l> Rockhopper: its not in the repos. so you need a 3rd party repo or the install from their webpage.
[23:22] <k1l> Rockhopper: you can make an own launcher for that program: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[23:23] <k1l> Rockhopper: according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/getdeb.net/+bug/1609756  its packaged in the getdeb repo
[23:24] <k1l> http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/16.10/?q=docear
[23:26] <Rockhopper>  thanks k1l I already found out that getdeb has a package, but getdeb itself has to be installed first. I have no clue how reliable this ´getdeb´ is?!
[23:30] <Rockhopper> k1l can you confirm it´s any good, do you use it?
[23:30] <k1l> Rockhopper: i neither use getdeb nor docear
[23:31] <bazhang> Rockhopper, it's third party , so on your own
[23:32] <Rockhopper> Okay for the time being I´ll use it from command line then. Thanks
[23:40] <misternumberone> genii: thanks i reinstalled the kernel it works now
[23:43] <genii> misternumberone: Glad to be of assistance
[23:45] <jacres> hey everyone, wondering if anyone has any thoughts on a decent way of doing the following. I currently have a 250gb SSD with Windows 10 + Ubuntu on it, OSes only. Data/Programs are currently on a HDD. I'm replacing the HDD with a 500gb SSD and looking to move Windows 10 completely to the 500gb SSD, and making the 250gb SSD Ubuntu only. What's the least painful way of doing this (aside from reinstalling
[23:45] <jacres> everything).
[23:46] <jacres> goes without saying, but the HDD has 2 partitions right now (one each for linux/win)
[23:50] <k1l> jacres: i dont know how windows likes to be put to another disk. but after windows is deleted from ssd250gb you can stretch the ubuntu partition to full extend of the disk and copy the data from the hdd onto it. you will need a live ubuntu for that.
[23:50] <genii> jacres: You could boot to livecd/usb and dd the 250 over to the 500. Then use gparted to expand the partitions. If you still wanted to use the 250 in same system with 500, also change it's UUID because otherwise both will have same UUID
[23:52] <jacres> thanks, those are good ideas. I have an unused 250gb partition on the HDD - i'll clone the ssd to that so I have everything backed up on that single HDD
[23:53] <jacres> and then resize/delete the windows one from the 250gb SSD.. does it matter that the windows partition is before the ubuntu one? can I shift it down?
[23:54] <genii> jacres: That is why I'm saying to dd the entire 250 to the 500, then gparted. Because it will calculate the partition offsets correctly to make windows boot OK if you remove Ubuntu
[23:56] <jacres> genii: thanks that makes sense. I'm wondering about on the 250gb SSD, it's [win10][ubuntu] for partitions.. if I get rid of win10 on the 250, it'll be [unallocated][ubuntu]. I've extended partitions forward, but can they be moved "down"?
[23:56] <k1l> yes
[23:56] <genii> yes
[23:56] <jacres> ok great
[23:57] <jacres> thanks for the ideas
[23:57] <jacres> be back in 2 days with "Lost all my data and had no backups. How can I restore everything?"
[23:57] <k1l> :)
[23:57] <bazhang> create backups now
[23:58] <MarcoP> this way is recommended to change interface name but I do not see this file:  sudo cp /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.back
[23:58] <MarcoP> the persistent.net.fules file
[23:58] <genii> If you use dd, add some bs= with reasonable size to make it go faster. If you want to check progress, look into using pv with dd so you can see how much is done
[23:59] <bhikkhusubhuti> Hello, somehow my computer all of a sudden does not allow cheese to use the camera with out running in root (that took a lot of time to figure out).  anyone know how that happened..
[23:59] <bhikkhusubhuti> it says device not found
[23:59] <jacres> for sure, I learned my lesson. Have dailies now + offsite. Had to use an hd recovery tool to get everything back, never again