[00:00] <jacres> genii: thanks, I didn't know about pv, will look into it - dd has left me hanging quite a few times (well thinkging it was frozen)
[00:04] <jeffreylevesque> what's the package for syslog?
[00:04] <jeffreylevesque> apt-get install syslog, apt-get install syslogd?
[00:05] <genii> jacres: For dd hard drive to a new larger drive with pv I usually do like: sudo dd if=sda bs=512M | pv | of=/dev/sdb
[00:06] <jacres> genii: great, I'll give that a go. Thanks
[00:07] <genii> jacres: Do you want the windows drive to still use GRUB, or revert to Windows MBR?
[00:07] <jacres> i'm ok with using grub. I like the option on boot
[00:08] <jacres> and i'll be UEFI
[00:08] <genii> jacres: OK, so then no modifications in this case to the instructions already provided
[00:08] <jacres> does that simplify putting things on different drives? that's one thing I'm not sure about
[00:08] <jacres> in terms of windows being happy on D:\
[00:09] <genii> jacres: If it thinks it's on C: now it will still think it's on C: after the move
[00:09] <jacres> so put the 500gb SSD as C:\, and the 250 Ubuntu as D:\
[00:10] <jacres> grub would go on the 500gb SSD
[00:11] <genii> jacres: With the method I described earler, after dd and gparted process, you move the 500 now to where the 250 used to be on the hardware
[00:11] <genii> jacres: And the 250 some other place
[00:11] <jacres> that makes sense. And then delete win on 250, resize
[00:11] <genii> And windows will not know the difference from before
[00:11] <jacres> ok completely makes sense now - i see it
[00:13] <jacres> thanks for the help ++appreciated
[00:17] <genii> jacres: Glad to assist
[00:18] <JohnDoe2> hello, does anyone know what sshfs logs at debug3 are saying? I can't figure it out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23896724/ that's what was output as it crashed when I clicked the ssh mount in Nautilus. And it keeps happening every few seconds.
[00:24] <PrincessBob> can i ask questions bout the ubuntu one store here?
[00:28] <Guest54145> Is there a native colour-temperature app in the respositories, or is f.lux d/l still the way to go?
[00:28] <Guest54145> erm...
[00:28] <k1l> Guest54145: redshift is in the repos
[00:29] <Guest54145> k1l:Ah, thanks.
[00:29] <Guest54145> Is that the first part of a Can. postal code, k1l?
[00:29] <k1l> no
[00:31] <PrincessBob> ok....   i am new to ubuntu... just made an ubuntu one account.... it lets me log in under firefox windows 10... but i cant log in under ubuntu VM...
[00:31] <PrincessBob> any ideas?
[00:33] <dimisdas> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[00:34] <PrincessBob> no
[00:34] <PrincessBob> lemme try that
[00:34] <PrincessBob> one min
[00:34] <PrincessBob> lol
[00:42] <PrincessBob> still nothing
[00:46] <JohnDoe2> PrincessBob does the VM have internet access? What's the error message when you try to log in?
[00:52] <PrincessBob> yes it does....      it says invalid email/password
[00:53] <PrincessBob> im installing what i ndeed by the terminal sudo method
[00:53] <PrincessBob> im owrking on an email to isd support
[00:53] <PrincessBob> and my bi directional copy paste isnt workin either, though i have to clicked TO work...
[00:58] <ytrezq> Hello, how I can listen for write on file which is type socket ? I tried tail ‑f /tmp/mysock but I got a no such device or address error. http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/106785
[01:00] <Sean_McG> you can't.
[01:00] <Sean_McG> the answers on that page explain why
[01:00] <Sean_McG> basically, a socket isn't really a file.
[01:02] <dcassler> Hi, is there any way to get to jabber on this?
[01:02] <bazhang> !info xmpp
[01:02] <dcassler> !info xmpp
[01:03] <stupidkeyboard> For the last two versions of Ubuntu I've been having trouble with the keyboard freezing. I've tried wireless, wired, different brands and different USB ports. I have a wireless USB mouse and while the keyboard input is frozen, it still works fine. First the keyboard slows down, then stops, then the last x keys show up on screen but not all of them. Any ideas?
[01:07] <Sean_McG> stupidkeyboard: sounds like a hardware issue
[01:07] <Lavinho> good night
[01:07] <Sean_McG> night.
[01:08] <Lavinho> Realtek ALC255  noise
[01:08] <Lavinho> what is the problem
[01:08] <Lavinho> ?
[01:08] <Sean_McG> forgot my mind reading helmet.
[01:09] <bazhang> Lavinho, check in alsamixer
[01:09] <bazhang> Lavinho, is PCM set to 100
[01:09] <Lavinho> yes
[01:09] <bazhang> set it to 80
[01:10] <Lavinho> to be continued
[01:10] <Lavinho> continued
[01:11] <bazhang> Lavinho, what does that mean
[01:11] <bazhang> Lavinho, did you change the setting of PCM or not
[01:12] <Lavinho> Continues to make noise
[01:12] <Lavinho> yes change
[01:12] <bazhang> Lavinho, at what setting of PCM does it stop
[01:13] <Sean_McG> could be an electrically noisy case... this is why onboard audio is not so great
[01:13] <Lavinho> continuoos
[01:13] <bazhang> Lavinho, what steps have you taken
[01:14] <joel_> Hey gan
[01:14] <joel_> gang
[01:14] <joel_> anyone know how to get qbittorrent connected on mint
[01:15] <EmberCrest> Anyone know of a handy way to disable the touchpad while a USB mouse is inserted?
[01:15] <Lavinho> as well
[01:15] <bazhang> ask mintsupport joel_
[01:15] <joel_> thanks baz
[01:15] <bazhang> !mintsupport | joel_
[01:15] <Lavinho> bazhang:
[01:16] <Lavinho> wa
[01:16] <Lavinho> as well
[01:16] <bazhang> Lavinho, have you done it in increments of 10 starting at zero
[01:16] <Lavinho> yes
[01:17] <bazhang> Lavinho, giving us one words answers wont get you much help here
[01:17] <bazhang> Lavinho, what are you trying to play, what software are you using to play it, which version of ubuntu
[01:17] <Lavinho> i am portuguese
[01:18] <Lavinho> 16.04
[01:18] <Lavinho> trying 14.04
[01:18] <bazhang> Lavinho, what about the other two questions I just asked
[01:19] <Lavinho> last
[01:19] <bazhang> Lavinho, last what
[01:19] <Lavinho> last question
[01:19] <bazhang> Lavinho, hello
[01:20] <bazhang> Lavinho, I need you to answer all of those three questions
[01:20] <Sean_McG> language barrier is definitely making this more difficult than it needs to be
[01:20] <JohnDoe2> PrincessBob the copy-paste between host and VM requires some kind of service running in the VM. I'd google how to install the "tool" package for the VM software you are using. And you did triple check that you have the right email and password, right? Do not rely on copy pasting that...
[01:20] <Lavinho> What do I do ?
[01:20] <bazhang> Lavinho, what are you trying to play
[01:21] <bazhang> and what software are you trying to play it with
[01:22] <Lavinho> alsamixer
[01:22] <bazhang> Lavinho, thats not a player
[01:22] <bazhang> Lavinho, and that is not something you listen to
[01:23] <Lavinho> No player simply makes noise
[01:23] <Lavinho> youtube no
[01:23] <bazhang> Lavinho, I am trying to listen to an mp3 with mplayer/vlc whatever
[01:23] <Lavinho> yes
[01:24] <bazhang> Lavinho, tell us which ones
[01:24] <Lavinho> vloc
[01:24] <bazhang> Lavinho, is the english here to difficult for you to understand
[01:24] <Lavinho> vlc
[01:24] <bazhang> Lavinho, did you want portuguese language support instead
[01:25] <Lavinho> There is no driver for this card
[01:25] <Lavinho> ?
[01:26] <bazhang> Lavinho, is the english too difficult for you
[01:26] <Lavinho> google transkate
[01:26] <bazhang> Lavinho, did you want portuguese language support instead
[01:26] <Lavinho> sorry
[01:26] <minimec> EmberCrest: If you always use the same mouse you could create a 'udev rule' that disables the touchpad once the USB mouse is connected.
[01:27] <EmberCrest> Yeah I do use the same mouse
[01:27] <bazhang> !pt | Lavinho
[01:27] <EmberCrest> any guides to send me?
[01:27] <bazhang> try using the portuguese channel Lavinho
[01:28] <Lavinho> ok
[01:28] <Lavinho> sorry
[01:28] <EmberCrest> minimec: surprised someone acc got back to me lmao
[01:28] <minimec> EmberCrest: So first part would be to know, how to disable the touchpad with a terminal command..., like maybe 'synclient TouchpadOff=1'
[01:28] <j47d55e> hi everybody
[01:29] <EmberCrest> Yeah that works for my mouse
[01:29] <EmberCrest> Wait no it doesnt.
[01:29] <EmberCrest> Just tried it out.
[01:29] <EmberCrest> :/
[01:31] <minimec> EmberCrest: You can probably do this with 'xinput'. First type 'xinput' and identify the touchpad.
[01:31] <EmberCrest> well it's a synaptics touchpad..
[01:32] <EmberCrest> so im not understanding why Synclient TouchpadOff=1 isn't working
[01:32] <minimec> EmberCrest: Now with the device id you can probably do 'xinput set-prop <ID> "Device Enabled" 0
[01:32] <EmberCrest> synclient says TouchpadOff=2
[01:32] <EmberCrest> ?_?
[01:33] <minimec> EmberCrest: Try with xinput. It's 'driver agnostic'...
[01:34] <EmberCrest> Ah wait I have TWO touchpads. DLL0704:01 06CB:76AE Touchpad
[01:34] <EmberCrest> SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
[01:34] <EmberCrest> im guessing the other one is virtual
[01:35] <Delphin> Hi! is there a web interface for configuring VPN's on linux?
[01:35] <EmberCrest> Ok sweet. Got it disabled.
[01:35] <avoider> Hi yes i need some quick help.
[01:35] <avoider> http://pastebin.com/4tEqmRxB
[01:35] <minimec> EmberCrest: So in xinput I get '? ROCCAT ROCCAT Kone XTD id=11'. So to disable my mouse I would do 'xinput set-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 0'
[01:36] <citizen_> Guys I'm not liking MATE.
[01:36] <citizen_> Im going back to windows
[01:36] <EmberCrest> Yeah I know how to do it dw
[01:36] <avoider> How to i activate the wifi usb stick once i have it installed?
[01:36] <EmberCrest> i was just perplexed that I have two touchpads
[01:36] <avoider> i see its detecting the usb wifi, but i cant see how i can use it.
[01:37] <Sean_McG> minimec: are those ID #'s guaranteed to persist after a reboot/restart of X?
[01:38] <avoider> Any ideas pleasE?
[01:38] <minimec> Sean_McG: I think they do, unless the desired device is a 'removable' device too, meaning you might plug it into a different usb port.
[01:39] <EmberCrest> Yeah it is removable.
[01:39] <EmberCrest> but i try to put it into the same port each time.
[01:39] <EmberCrest> but w.e. I'll just manually do it, it's fine.
[01:39] <EmberCrest> Just kinda nice to have that with Windows.
[01:39] <minimec> EmberCrest: But the touchpad is not removable, so it will always have the same ID.
[01:39] <EmberCrest> ^^ yeah but I'd have to iterate over each USB port if I wrote a rule
[01:40] <EmberCrest> I mean really im a traitor to ubuntu, I only dual-boot for work.
[01:40] <EmberCrest> Not on principle :D
[01:41] <minimec> EmberCrest: You will recognize the mouse with its device ID, wich is alwys the same. You can check that with 'lsusb' My Roccat Krone would be '1e7d:2e22'
[01:41] <minimec> EmberCrest: Now you will have to create a udev rule that handles plug/unplug of your mouse and disables/enables the touchpad accordingly.
[01:42] <minimec> EmberCrest: something like this... http://granjow.net/udev-rules.html
[01:43] <EmberCrest> hm ok. maybe ill try it, I dunno. im allowing myself to be distracted by this issue at htis point, I got real work to do
[01:43] <EmberCrest> but one more question I had
[01:43] <EmberCrest> Does anyone know if it's possible to make calls using an iPhone over bluetooth in ubuntu
[01:44] <EmberCrest> like is that something that Ubuntu could POTENTIALLY support assuming that my hardware actually supports it
[01:45] <Sean_McG> kind of doubt it, seems like the sort of thing Apple would prevent you from doing
[01:45] <EmberCrest> god im so jealous of mac users getting this "Continuity" shit
[01:45] <EmberCrest> they can send and receive SMS on their desktops, make calls, universal clipboard..
[01:46] <EmberCrest> their OS is attrotious to use but those perks, man.
[01:48] <avoider> http://pastebin.com/4ZNBSfFL
[01:49] <avoider> i dont seem to be gettign any errors
[01:49] <avoider> any ideas how to get it to work?
[01:50] <Sean_McG> avoider: you might need to create a udev rule to load whatever module that usb wifi needs
[01:51] <avoider> how do i do this? i been struglling with this for days before i came here for help
[01:51] <avoider> looked several places on forums.
[01:51] <minimec> avoider: Looks like you had to compile the driver for that device yourself on earlier ubuntu versions. http://askubuntu.com/a/642812
[01:52] <Sean_McG> oh, or that
[01:52] <ckeeney> js
[01:53] <minimec> avoider: Check with 'iwconfig' if the wifi device is recognized. Also check lsmod for the eventually loaded drivers.
[01:53] <avoider> i used that site to install everything
[01:53] <mlw> Has anyone here had any luck with setting up a monodevelop/monogame environment in 16.04?
[01:59] <adymitruk> I'm using alpine mail and it keeps opening links in firefox instead of chromium. Chromium is my default browser. xdg-open google.com from the command line does the expected and opens a new tab in chromium. I changed the url viewer is alpine to xdg-open and it keeps launching firefox. Any ideas?
[02:12] <avoider> i followed that tutioual
[02:12] <avoider> nothing happened.
[02:12] <avoider> i even rebooted.
[02:12] <avoider> http://pastebin.com/4ZNBSfFL
[02:13] <avoider> i see its detecting it.
[02:13] <Sean_McG> but it's only detecting the USB device, you still need it to load the correct module so that it can bind to it
[02:13] <avoider> so how do i do that?
[02:13] <avoider> i followed copy to paste
[02:13] <Sean_McG> I think someone posted a link
[02:13] <avoider> from that tut that was provided
[02:14] <avoider> i did that.
[02:14] <avoider> i even redit it says everything is installed/there
[02:14] <Sean_McG> if you lsmod, is that rtlwhatever module loaded?
[02:16] <avoider> http://pastebin.com/7N49nLVz
[02:16] <maciej> Hello, does anyone here know how to work base16 builder?
[02:16] <avoider> that is the output from lsmod
[02:16] <Sean_McG> OK, I'm not sure... r8169 might be it, but it also might not
[02:17] <avoider> how can i load it by command?
[02:18] <Sean_McG> 'modprobe <whatever>' , replacing <whatever> with the name of the module you built from the instructions
[02:19] <avoider> foreal@foreal-desktop:~$ modprobe rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux
[02:19] <avoider> modprobe: FATAL: Module rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic
[02:20] <Sean_McG> OK, you didn't build the module then
[02:20] <Sean_McG> it's not likely called the name of the directory
[02:20] <Sean_McG> also, I'm not sure you can modprobe as non-root
[02:21] <hank8989> hello i was wondering how to use a windows wireless driver in kubuntu 16.04 as i have noticed the windows wireless drivers install utility is not listed in that version
[02:21] <k1l> hank8989: you dont use windows drivers anymore.
[02:22] <avoider> i tried with root
[02:22] <avoider> same error
[02:22] <hank8989> ah ok than how to i install the driver for my wireless network adapter when it has interet because the wireless adapter is not working
[02:22] <Biosphere_50> hank8989: Use additional drivers application to load extra drivers but you may need to tether for internet access
[02:22] <Sean_McG> OK you'll need to go back to that tutorial and be sure to build the module correctly
[02:23] <Sean_McG> make sure you have dkms installed.
[02:23] <k1l> hank8989: that depends on the exact card in use. "lspci" or "lsusb" will list them. show the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:26] <avoider> i did all them steps
[02:26] <avoider> correctly
[02:26] <avoider> and dkms is installed
[02:26] <avoider> everything says its installed.
[02:26] <Sean_McG> OK, what does 'dkms status' say
[02:26] <Sean_McG> ?
[02:27] <avoider> root@foreal-desktop:~# dkms status
[02:27] <avoider> rtl8812au, 4.3.8.12175.20140902+dfsg, 4.4.0-59-generic, x86_64: installed
[02:27] <avoider> rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux, 1.0, 4.4.0-59-generic, x86_64: installed
[02:27] <Sean_McG> hmmmmm
[02:28] <minimec> avoider: the name of the module is either 'rtl8812au' or '8821au'. Maybe just try to reboot once and plug the dongle...
[02:28] <Sean_McG> ^
[02:28] <Sean_McG> the instructions suggest you don't have to reboot
[02:28] <avoider> so unplug it and reboot?
[02:28] <Biosphere_50> avoider: did you try using additional drivers application?
[02:29] <avoider> i new to linux so some of this is greek to me.
[02:29] <Biosphere_50> thas ok we were all there once before
[02:29] <Biosphere_50> some sooner then later
[02:30] <avoider> all i did was find that site before i came here
[02:30] <avoider> did all the steps over and over
[02:30] <minimec> avoider: You can reboot with the device plugged. That should do.
[02:30] <avoider> ok
[02:30] <Biosphere_50> try opening additional drivers see if it lists the firware for the wifi card
[02:31] <zxl> anyone knows how to cross compile kernel
[02:31] <minimec> avoider: The driver should be loaded automatically if installed correctly.
[02:31] <zxl> i always fail
[02:31] <avoider> minimec, there is no wrong way to do it if you copy and paste.
[02:31] <avoider> and it tells me when i redo it its all installed.
[02:31] <minimec> avoider: I agree..
[02:32] <hank8989> its a netgear wna3100 broadcom bcm43231 chipset usb adapter
[02:32] <zxl> anyone help me
[02:32] <zxl> cross compile raspberrypi kernel
[02:33] <minimec> zxl: For what platform? Here is one guide for ARM... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ARMKernelCrossCompile
[02:33] <zxl> yes,arm cortex a53
[02:34] <zxl> x64 cpu
[02:34] <Watcher7> Hello! Reference picture: https://i.imgur.com/kKap1VO.png
[02:34] <Watcher7> Does anyone know if it's possible increase the size of the active and selected "indicator" dots on the unity launcher?
[02:34] <hank8989> kl1: its a netgear wna3100 broadcom bcm43231 chipset usb adapter
[02:34] <foreal> okay i rebooted, nothing happened.
[02:34] <Watcher7> If it's not possible to increase the size of the dots via a UI option or configuration file change then maybe someone can tell me where the source images for them are located?
[02:34] <Watcher7> I gave /usr/share/unity/icons/ a couple of passes with my eyes already, but I didn't see them there.
[02:35] <Biosphere_50> Watcher7: are you talking about the boot splash loader plymouth or the login?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> !bcm | hank8989
[02:35] <Watcher7> Biosphere_50, talking about the launcher panel.
[02:35] <Watcher7> As in the one that holds active and 'favorite' applications.
[02:35] <foreal> minimec, you still here?
[02:36] <Biosphere_50> you mean the active windows that show a little tiny dot underneath?
[02:36] <minimec> foreal: Yes... Did we talk before?
[02:36] <foreal> avoider
[02:36] <foreal> im on the ubuntu machine.
[02:36] <minimec> foreal: Ok.
[02:36] <foreal> so  i don't have to run back forth from pc to pc.
[02:36] <hank8989> mine is not supported under that driver :-(
[02:36] <Watcher7> Biosphere_50, yeah, with a dot above showing the current 'selected' application.
[02:37] <Watcher7> I'm wondering where the source images for those dots are.
[02:37] <foreal> I just don't seem to understand it displays the device, the drivers installed, still not work.
[02:37] <Watcher7> Or if they can have their size increased via some other way.
[02:37] <Biosphere_50> Watcher7: unfortunately I haven't messed with that before but i'm xubuntu so i don't use the unity panel sorry
[02:37] <Watcher7> That's ok, thank you for your time.
[02:37] <Biosphere_50> Watcher7: if you enlarge the panel does it make it bigger
[02:37] <minimec> foreal: What does 'iwconfig' say?
[02:37] <foreal> enp2s0    no wireless extensions.
[02:37] <foreal> lo        no wireless extensions.
[02:38] <Watcher7> I've not tested that, but I'd prefer to keep the panel at its current size.
[02:38] <Biosphere_50> I would assume it would be an appearance thing... theme maybe
[02:38] <Biosphere_50> I understand but if you change the size does it enlarge or not just curious
[02:38] <Watcher7> I've looked there and also in the unity tweak application, but I've not seen it referenced in any of the menus.
[02:38] <Watcher7> One second.
[02:38] <hank8989> in 14.04 i used the windows wireless drivers to install my drivers
[02:39] <Watcher7> Biosphere_50, yes the dots scale to match application icon size.
[02:39] <Biosphere_50> oh ok
[02:39] <minimec> foreal: I see.. I don't really know how to give you further help. I can point you to the official installation guide of the driver developer @ github... https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au
[02:39] <Biosphere_50> so I believe it would be a theme option or script file that would do that
[02:40] <foreal> okay thanks mate.
[02:40] <foreal> appericate it.
[02:40] <Biosphere_50> whateve theme your using for your unity desktop see if you can find the folder and see whats inside
[02:40] <Biosphere_50> should be a script thing
[02:40] <minimec> foreal: No problem.
[02:41] <Watcher7> Biosphere_50, I just switched themes to see if the 'dots' changed. It does seem that the dots are actually theme dependent.
[02:41] <Watcher7> I thought they were the same across themes.
[02:42] <Watcher7> I think the themes I used for testing that earlier were so similar that
[02:42] <Watcher7> I reached the conclusion that it was unity itself that handled them
[02:42] <Watcher7> I'll dig around in the GTK theme now.
[02:42] <Biosphere_50> aight good luck
[02:42] <hank8989> thank you for the help
[02:46] <Watcher7> They seem to be named launcher_arrow_<three_letter_string>_<size?>.svg
[02:46] <Watcher7> I'll just replace the smaller icons with the larger ones.
[02:46] <Watcher7> Thanks for your help Biosphere_50 have a nice day.
[02:46] <Biosphere_50> Watcher7: you man take care
[03:17] <cruncher> hi
[03:17] <cruncher> does it exist something like snapshots.debian.org but for ubuntu packages?
[03:17] <linux228> hi, how can I see what file permission applies to each file when the output is e.g. -rw-r--r-- when I do ls -l on a directory?
[03:18] <cruncher> im looking for 13.04 packages, but they are not selectable in packages.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <Bashing-om> linux228: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions .
[03:20] <Bashing-om> !13.04 | cruncher
[03:20] <cruncher> ubottu, yes, i know, so tehre is no archive of eol versions liek debian has?
[03:20] <cruncher> Bashing-om, ^^
[03:21] <cruncher> i will check the isos then...
[03:22] <Bashing-om> cruncher: Well .. maybe, there is http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ .
[03:25] <linux228> Bashing-om: I was reading that but I can't work out the simple part which is just listing the files that i've just looked at the permissions for
[03:25] <linux228> like ls -l gives me -r for example, how do i list those two files?
[03:26] <Biosphere_50> linux228: not sure what you asking exactly you want to know how to display the file permissions for only two specific files using ls -l there is also ll
[03:27] <wedgie> linux228: maybe back up just a bit... what are you actually trying to do?
[03:27] <Biosphere_50> wedgie: my centiments exactly
[03:27] <linux228> I'm looking at a directory to see what files are in it and what their permissions are
[03:28] <db0> Hi all
[03:28] <Bashing-om> linux228: Pardom me if U am being dense her .. but the 'r' in the permissiins files is to indicate that "read" us avaialable in that contect . Has nothing to do with any additional listing .
[03:28] <linux228> I ran ls -l in the directory and got back -rw-r--r-- so I assume there's 9 files in there?
[03:29] <Biosphere_50> linux228: your trying to the list the files in the directory using ls -l "directory name"
[03:29] <linux228> yes Biosphere_50
[03:29] <Biosphere_50> linux228: ok I think I understand now one sec
[03:29] <linux228> it's the /etc/shadow directory if it's relevant
[03:29] <Biosphere_50> linux228: should be able todo ls -l /etc/shadow/
[03:29] <Biosphere_50> but you need access to thie directory may need to sudo it
[03:30] <linux228> i have root access
[03:30] <linux228> yeah, i get back -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 704 mar 3 2011 /etc/shadow
[03:30] <Biosphere_50> not the contents of the folder?
[03:30] <Biosphere_50> make sure you leave a trailing /
[03:31] <Biosphere_50> shadow is a file not a directory
[03:31] <linux228> oh is it :|
[03:31] <Biosphere_50> roger that
[03:31] <Biosphere_50> it would have a leading d if it was a directory before the drw-r--r--
[03:33] <linux228> aha, leading -, I get it. So now I just need to decipher the rest haha
[03:33] <Biosphere_50> the first group is user then group perminission and the last group is other
[03:33] <Biosphere_50> example -rwx is for user perms
[03:34] <Biosphere_50> -rwxrwx is for group perms
[03:34] <Biosphere_50> -rwxrwxrwx is for other if you catch my drift
[03:34] <linux228> thanks a lot man
[03:34] <Biosphere_50> first character is to identify if its a directory
[03:34] <Biosphere_50> no problem
[03:36] <linux228> -rw-r--r-- would be a file where owner can read, write but not execute, and group can read only, and same with other. Makes sense :D
[03:36] <Biosphere_50> exactly, bingo you got it
[03:46] <cvn57l1sddk42ljq> Is there an easy way to reversibly switch from a live wary 5.5.1 linux to ubuntu?
[03:47] <u0_a174> i dount know i only just got here
[03:48] <Biosphere_50> cvn57l1sddk42ljq: you want both or just switch
[03:50] <cvn57l1sddk42ljq> let's try both, I am mostly just curious; otherwise, bad case I will reboot wary
[03:50] <Biosphere_50> cvn57l1sddk42ljq: need to create a new partiion
[03:50] <Biosphere_50> cvn57l1sddk42ljq: if you have a seperate disk even better
[03:51] <Biosphere_50> cvn57l1sddk42ljq: whats your bootloader will probably need grub2 thats whats i'm familiar with
[03:51] <cvn57l1sddk42ljq> can this be done if I don't have a permanent disk, like no harddisk or flashdisk or floppy
[03:51] <Biosphere_50> ya
[03:51] <Biosphere_50> well you need hard drive space at least
[03:52] <cvn57l1sddk42ljq> oh, will ram space work?
[03:52] <Biosphere_50> create a new ext4 partiion install ubuntu on it then update your grub to detect the new os then select on startup
[03:52] <Biosphere_50> backup everything
[03:52] <cvn57l1sddk42ljq> nvm, I can't even backup this system ...
[03:53] <Biosphere_50> cuz you need to make sure when you install the new os you don't overwrite your existing os
[03:53] <Biosphere_50> sepearte disk is best
[03:53] <Biosphere_50> physical
[03:53] <Biosphere_50> flashdrive would work
[03:54] <Biosphere_50> but its slow
[03:56] <ob9> I have an old Dell D600 i'm trying to turn into a file server(just to teach myself how to do it outside of a VM really) - if i put install the last non-pae ubuntu server release(11.04 I think), would it possible to upgrade to a new version of ubuntu server?
[03:57] <Biosphere_50> ob9: you want to keep data?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> ob9: Now 14.04 Lubuntu has support for non-pae: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211590 .
[04:06] <citizen_> Hey guy! I've been wondering how to install a tar.gz package using the terminal.
[04:07] <JohnDoe2> .tar.gz is an archive format, just like .zip
[04:07] <JohnDoe2> to unarchive it you can use tar zxf archive.name.tar.gz
[04:07] <citizen_> ok ill try that thanks
[04:07] <rypervenche> citizen_: The better question is why are you trying to install a package outside of the package manager?
[04:08] <citizen_> because its not in the package manager
[04:09] <citizen_> I says file cant be located.
[04:09] <citizen_> Do I need to do "sudo" ???
[04:09] <citizen_> *It
[04:10] <Biosphere_50> citizen_: you need to extract it first someplace tar -zxv "achive.tar.gz"
[04:11] <citizen_> biosphere: I already did that.
[04:11] <citizen_> Maybe I should go back to windows...
[04:13] <Biosphere_50> citizen_: what you get out of it a make file or
[04:13] <Biosphere_50> .deb
[04:13] <Biosphere_50> if you using ubuntu you should be using apt-get install package
[04:14] <citizen_> That won't work either
[04:14] <citizen_> Arent we all on Ubuntu?
[04:14] <Biosphere_50> what the package your trying to install
[04:14] <citizen_> usb-imagewriter
[04:15] <Biosphere_50> what version of ubuntu
[04:15] <citizen_> You mean what version I'm using?
[04:15] <Biosphere_50> yes
[04:15] <citizen_> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 MATE
[04:20] <Biosphere_50> cibs: its not availabler for our version I guess from what i'm seeing... because it has old dependencies
[04:20] <Biosphere_50> cibs: sorry
[04:21] <citizen_> It's cool
[04:21] <citizen_> And Biosphere
[04:21] <Biosphere_50> citizen_:  its not availabler for our version I guess from what i'm seeing... because it has old            │ akik
[04:21] <Biosphere_50>                           | dependencies
[04:21] <citizen_> Do you think Windows 10 is better than Ubuntu MATE
[04:21] <citizen_> Cause I wanna switch
[04:22] <Biosphere_50> citizen_: i'm not a liberty to discuss windows since I can't stand windows
[04:22] <citizen_> Why not?
[04:22] <JohnDoe2> better is very subjective. Use whatever operating system works for your specific needs.
[04:22] <Biosphere_50> citizen_: I would recommmend kubuntu 16.04 for you install with kde4 plasma if your windows 10 buff
[04:23] <citizen_> I think Windows 10 is bad as well way too many viruses
[04:23] <citizen_> The first time I started up Vista I already got pop ups.
[04:23] <Biosphere_50> its unstable
[04:24] <Biosphere_50> lets just say I don't have to reboot
[04:24] <Biosphere_50> ever
[04:24] <citizen_> So how else can I burn an .iso to my usb?
[04:24] <Biosphere_50> using dd
[04:24] <citizen_> DD?
[04:24] <Biosphere_50> roger that dd
[04:24] <Biosphere_50> standby for details
[04:25] <Biosphere_50> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_cloning
[04:25] <citizen_> I'm only 12 by the way.
[04:25] <Biosphere_50> disk cloning
[04:25] <Biosphere_50> citizen_: age is ireleven
[04:25] <Biosphere_50> irrelevent
[04:25] <citizen_> I know. So is Microsoft
[04:26] <Biosphere_50> but it will overwrite the drive
[04:27] <Biosphere_50> make sure you pick the correct drive and use the iso as your if
[04:27] <citizen_> If?
[04:27] <Biosphere_50> input option
[04:27] <citizen_> Is it possible to just
[04:27] <Biosphere_50> use a gui
[04:27] <citizen_> Directly place the iso image to the usb
[04:28] <citizen_> Will it still work?
[04:28] <Biosphere_50> you want to transfer the file or use the contents of the iso
[04:28] <the-listener> help
[04:28] <citizen_> I want to install Ubuntu 16.04 LTS so I can switch.
[04:28] <citizen_> Oh and I want to use the .iso image
[04:28] <Biosphere_50> you have a blank flash drive
[04:29] <citizen_> Yes
[04:30] <the-listener> exit
[04:44] <MSDOS6> hi is this the place to ask ms-dos questions?
[05:01] <alex__> Hello all
[05:01] <citizen_> Hello alex__
[05:02] <citizen_> See ya guys I'm moving back to microsoft
[05:02] <alex__> I'm on a vm, so I'm on both at once
[05:16] <Olufunmilayo> hey guys question. I have set my iptables to log, which they are, and the logs are going to /var/log/messages. I have changed that in rsyslog to instead send them to a log file of their own and it works but however /var/log/messages is still being logged to as well. the way that I sent the logs to my custom log file is to add at the bottom of rsyslog the following ";msg. contains, "whatever" /var/log/whatever.log ;msg, contains,
[05:16] <Olufunmilayo> "whatever" ~    what I'd like to do is have the iptable logs go to just the log file I direct it to and no where else, anyone have any idea what I missed or care to help guide me in the right direction?
[05:21] <testuser2> hi
[05:33] <jimtendo-X540S> Hi guys, anyone familiar with the following syslog error:
[05:33] <jimtendo-X540S> [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A (start=13254 end=13255) time 205 us, min 763, max 767, scanline start 753, end 775
[05:34] <jimtendo-X540S> ... this error seems to pop up between half hour to two hours of use and makes my PC incredibly slow. I've tried various Kernel's between 4.4 and 4.8, but all seem to be getting hit with this. Just hoping someone might be able to shed some light.
[05:44] <Tahr-Poop> jimtendo-X540S, check 11th comment https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=214177
[06:26] <PrincessBob> ok.. i got bi direction copy paste enabled in virtual box.. but its not working... does it have something to do with that 'insert guest cd' thing?
[06:31] <malkauns> is there any other desktop environment that has trail focus like unity/compiz?
[06:31] <hateball> malkauns: do you mean "focus follows mouse" ?
[06:32] <malkauns> nope
[06:32] <malkauns> windows that are out of focus are progressively dimmed
[06:32] <malkauns> depending on the settings
[06:33] <PrincessBob> where would i look in ubuntu settings?
[06:33] <malkauns> so if u click on 10 windows in order, window 1 will be the darkest and window 10 the lightest
[06:34] <PrincessBob> oh nm
[06:48] <ignacio> G'night
[07:08] <berkiyo> *buntu > Arch
[07:47] <nedi> hallo
[07:51] <Xz> hi there
[07:51] <Xz> I'm happy new ubuntu user
[07:52] <Xz> without drivers for my graphics card
[07:52] <Xz> I have Nvidia Quadro 1000m
[07:52] <Xz> anybody knows what to do with it now?
[07:57] <tatertots> Xz: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[07:57] <tatertots> Xz: let me know when it's completed
[08:00] <Xz> tatertots: what's pastebinit? something like pastebin.com ?
[08:01] <tatertots> Xz: pastebinit - command-line pastebin client
[08:02] <Xz> tatertots: ok, installed
[08:03] <tatertots> Xz: in terminal>       inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[08:03] <tatertots> Xz: press enter         share url/link here
[08:03] <tatertots> Xz: nothing unique to your person is in the link so dont worry
[08:04] <Xz> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898252/
[08:04] <Xz> tatertots: that's a cool tool by the way
[08:04] <tatertots> Xz: in terminal>       ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit
[08:04] <tatertots> Xz: press enter         share url/link here
[08:05] <Xz> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898259/
[08:06] <rifter> yeah tatertots had me install it before and I definitely like it
[08:06] <tatertots> Xz: in terminal>       cat var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit
[08:06] <tatertots> Xz: press enter         share url/link here
[08:07] <Xz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898312/
[08:09] <Xz> tatertots: that laptop has 2 graphics cards, Nvidia and Intel
[08:10] <Xz> tatertots: I believe currently it's set in UEFI as 'auto' which means they can switch (I think)
[08:10] <tatertots> Xz: in terminal>       lspci|grep VGA|pastebinit
[08:10] <tatertots> Xz: press enter         share url/link here
[08:10] <Xz> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898319/
[08:11] <tatertots> Xz: in terminal>       apt list --installed|pastebinit
[08:12] <tatertots> Xz: press enter         share url/link here
[08:12] <tatertots> Xz: have you used driver manager to install the nvidia 367?
[08:13] <rellis> Can anyone think of a creative reason why an ftps connection would run very slow? ie the login and then the LIST command take a long time to run and then fail sometimes
[08:13] <Xz> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898327/
[08:13] <rellis> i have tried multiple different clients
[08:14] <tatertots> Xz: you will noticed nvidia-367 as an option in "additional drivers"
[08:14] <Xz> tatertots: where exactly?
[08:14] <Xz> tatertots: I don't know what's additional drivers, I don't know Ubuntu GUI
[08:15] <Xz> tatertots: I'm heavy debian user on a daily basis :)
[08:15] <tatertots> Xz: sudo apt install nvidia-367
[08:15] <Xz> tatertots: yeah, just found the GUI with additional drivers
[08:15] <Xz> tatertots: ok
[08:15] <tatertots> Xz: ignore my command
[08:15] <tatertots> Xz: use the GUI
[08:16] <Xz> tatertots: really?
[08:16] <tatertots> Xz: thats what it's there for
[08:16] <Xz> tatertots: ok, clicking '367' on gui?
[08:16] <tatertots> Xz: install 367 using the GUI driver tool
[08:17] <tatertots> Xz: after nvidia-367 install using gui tool is completed reboot
[08:17] <Xz> tatertots: ok, will do
[08:17] <sirv> rellis .. use SCP
[08:18] <rellis> sirv: Ya, SFTP/SCP work fine
[08:18] <rellis> something particular to FTPS, which im stuck with
[08:18] <Xz> rellis: use scp and move on!
[08:18] <sirv> and u need FTPS urgently ?
[08:18] <rellis> well, we have a piece of software provided by a var that's is using FTPS to communicate
[08:19] <rellis> so it's a significant chore to get them to go change the software
[08:21] <tatertots> Xz: what the nvidia-367 installation successful?
[08:21] <Xz> tatertots: still going
[08:22] <Xz> tatertots: nearly finished
[08:22] <hateball> takes a while to build the new modules
[08:22] <Xz> tatertots: why doesn't installer install it right away?
[08:22] <hateball> Xz: just for future reference, if you prefer cli then "ubuntu-drivers" is the equiv of that gui
[08:22] <Xz> hateball: cool, thanks
[08:22] <tatertots> Xz: some users may want to use nouveau
[08:22] <Xz> hateball: yes, I prefer cli
[08:23] <Xz> tatertots: looks like nouveau is way worse
[08:23] <testuser2> hi
[08:23] <Xz> tatertots: I'm actually booting with 'nomodeset' because otherwise I cannot use graphics at all
[08:23] <testuser2> who changed the rules in morning?
[08:23] <testuser2> Banning unregistered users is So Trump.
[08:23] <testuser2>  iwant to to protest.
[08:23] <testuser2> oh. wrong channel!
[08:24] <hateball> Xz: for 9xx and up there is no nouveau support at all
[08:24] <hateball> Ideally there'd be a script to detect your chipset and automatically install the nvidia modules
[08:25] <Xz> hateball: yes, that's preferred
[08:25] <Xz> hateball: I'm tired of distros that require daily maintenance
[08:26] <max12345> Hello. My aptitude is busy generating /boot/initrd.img-number and seems to be no end to it. What is happening?
[08:26] <Xz> hateball: actually Ubuntu has buggy driver for my 5GHz WiFi
[08:26] <Xz> hateball: but I can live with 2.4GHz version
[08:26] <tatertots> Xz: maintenance?....isn't this a new install?
[08:26] <Xz> tatertots: well, I'm just saying that some distros just don't work every now and then
[08:26] <Xz> tatertots: little things break down
[08:26] <Xz> tatertots: that's what pisses me off
[08:26] <Xz> tatertots: ubuntu so far is ok
[08:26] <testuser2> Xz: which distro?
[08:26] <tatertots> Xz: oh i see
[08:27] <Xz> tatertots: however, spent 4 days to install it on USB stick
[08:27] <Xz> tatertots: in secure mode
[08:27] <Xz> tatertots: 4 days fight and then I found a bug that nobody actually fixed
[08:27] <Xz> tatertots: but bug description gave me an idea on how to work around it
[08:28] <tatertots> Xz: four days..that's one heck of a fight
[08:28] <Xz> tatertots: it is
[08:28] <Xz> tatertots: was about to give up
[08:28] <Xz> tatertots: kicked-off fedora live
[08:28] <Xz> tatertots: and it didn't have my WiFi driver at all
[08:28] <Xz> tatertots: so I gave up on fedora right away
[08:28] <testuser2> haha. Feroda.
[08:29] <Xz> tatertots: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1366546
[08:29] <Xz> tatertots: that's the bug
[08:29] <tatertots> Xz: your Intel Wireless 8260 seems to be working fine in ubuntu
[08:29] <Xz> tatertots: well, 2.4GHz version does
[08:29] <Xz> tatertots: 5GHz seems to be working fine until I try to ssh
[08:29] <Xz> tatertots: then it hangs
[08:29] <Xz> tatertots: like it had some problems with MTU or something else
[08:30] <Xz> tatertots: I don't want to debug it!
[08:31] <Xz> tatertots: windows is so much better providing initial user experience
[08:31] <Xz> tatertots: but let's hope we get there with Linux distros too
[08:31] <Xz> tatertots: it's actually pretty good these days for Linux
[08:31] <Xz> tatertots: graphics cards and gaming in general is way behind
[08:32] <Xz> tatertots: but other stuff is alright
[08:32] <max12345> Should initramfs generate lots of images on apt upgrade?
[08:33] <Xz> tatertots: my nvidia installation is stuck
[08:33] <tatertots> Xz: ssh hangs or network connectivity itself is disrupted?
[08:33] <Xz> but aptd takes 100% cpu
[08:33] <Xz> tatertots: it's only ssh that's affected
[08:34] <Xz> tatertots: network works fine
[08:34] <Xz> tatertots: it's only ssh interactive session
[08:34] <Xz> tatertots: I can 'ssh user@server "command"' just fine
[08:34] <Xz> tatertots: but if I want prompt - it hangs
[08:34] <Xz> tatertots: spent some time digging over internet about that one too
[08:34] <tatertots> Xz: hmm interesting
[08:34] <Xz> tatertots: nobody seems to have a clue
[08:35] <tatertots> Xz: did you file a report?
[08:35] <Xz> tatertots: http://askubuntu.com/questions/344863/ssh-new-connection-begins-to-hang-not-reject-or-terminate-after-a-day-or-so-on
[08:35] <Xz> tatertots: that's what I'm getting
[08:35] <Xz> tatertots: nope
[08:35] <Xz> tatertots: nobody believes me :)
[08:36] <EriC^^> Xz: can you ssh with a different user?
[08:36] <Xz> EriC^^: didn't try
[08:36] <Xz> EriC^^: but I would expect that wouldn't work too
[08:36] <Xz> EriC^^: as it seems to be network related
[08:36] <tatertots> Xz: is the nvidia install still at %99?
[08:37] <Xz> tatertots: yes
[08:37] <Xz> tatertots: progress bar is about 90%
[08:37] <EriC^^> Xz: try it out
[08:37] <Xz> tatertots: and aptd still 100% CPU
[08:37] <EriC^^> Xz: did you say it hangs right away or after a while?
[08:37] <Xz> EriC^^: usually right away
[08:38] <Xz> EriC^^: but sometimes I'm able to get the prompt
[08:38] <EriC^^> Xz: ok, try with a different user
[08:38] <Xz> EriC^^: then it works fine for ~2min
[08:38] <Xz> EriC^^: and hangs then
[08:38] <Xz> EriC^^: tried ssh from very same setup, but win10 - never had a single problem
[08:38] <tatertots> Xz: if it doesn't complete shortly, you should terminate it, restart and verify or reattempt the nvidia 367 installation
[08:39] <Xz> tatertots: is there some log file for aptd?
[08:40] <anon_> how's it going
[08:40] <tatertots> Xz: in terminal>       apt list --installed|grep nvid
[08:40] <Xz> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898395/
[08:41] <Xz> tatertots: there is one process called: update-securebo
[08:41] <Xz> tatertots: maybe there is some fckp with my secure-boot?
[08:41] <Xz> tatertots: I'm secure-booted off USB stick
[08:41] <tatertots> Xz: nvidia is installed, restart
[08:43] <Xz> tatertots: root     20950  4.7  0.0   4508  1780 pts/20   SN+  00:18   1:07 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/update-secureboot-policy
[08:43] <Xz> tatertots: what about this process hanging?
[08:45] <tatertots> Xz: restart the system and observe the system state after a reboot
[08:45] <Xz> tatertots: well, I just want to make sure I can boot again in secure-mode...
[08:45] <Xz> tatertots: but ok, will try
[08:51] <Xz> tatertots: doesn't boot anymore
[08:52] <tatertots> Xz: error?
[08:52] <Xz> tatertots: nope, nothing, UEFI doesn't kick off grub
[08:53] <Xz> tatertots: I'm going to a) create another USB live with ubuntu, b) boot it, c) go to EFI partition and see what's messed up
[08:53] <Xz> tatertots: hopefully it's fixable
[08:53] <tatertots> Xz: can you get to a virtual terminal?
[08:53] <ducasse> Xz: you need to run mokutil --disable-validation
[08:53] <Xz> ducasse: what's that?
[08:54] <Xz> ducasse: I cannot run anything, because I don't even get to grub
[08:54] <Xz> ducasse: and my UEFI doesn't feature UEFI shell
[08:54] <ducasse> Xz: it tells the shim to inform the kernel not to validate signature on kernel modules
[08:54] <EriC^^> Xz: which pc model?
[08:54] <Xz> ducasse: I'm booting in UEFI secure mode, that's a requirement
[08:55] <Xz> EriC^^: HP Zbook 15G3
[08:55] <EriC^^> Xz: try pressing f9 when the pc boots
[08:55] <ducasse> Xz: yes, you still will be. the kernel just won't be using it to validate modules.
[08:56] <ducasse> Xz: alternatively you need to generate a key, add it to the mok and sign the modules yourself
[08:58] <Xz> ok, here is a good news - my USB FULL install ubuntu boots fine
[08:58] <Xz> it's just UEFI acting out
[08:58] <Xz> after I moved that stick to another USB port - it booted all the way
[08:58] <Xz> so nothing bad happened
[08:59] <Xz> however, now I added 'nomodeset' to grub, booted all the way to welcome screen
[08:59] <Xz> and now when I try to login - screen flickers and returns to login view
[08:59] <andi> Hi, I installed ubuntu on my raid1 with lvm. I already set the rootdelay, so lvm has 5 seconds more time to start but I get the error: lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit.
[09:03] <Xz> tatertots: what do I do now? no graphics at all ...
[09:04] <Xz> by the way, I cannot insert nvidia-367, it says 'required key not available'
[09:05] <hateball> Xz: I am not sure the 367 driver supports all the uefi stuff, I thought that came later
[09:06] <hateball> Xz: you could try grabbing the latest driver from PPA, see if that works better: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-378
[09:06] <Xz> hateball: first tell me how to return to noveau
[09:07] <Xz> hateball: as currently I have cli only
[09:07] <Tazmain> Hi all, I am running ubuntu 14.04 and when I try to update this week I keep getting ' W: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden [IP: 197.155.77.2 80]' do I need to change mirrors?
[09:07] <hateball> Xz: well you only need cli for what I told you
[09:07] <Tazmain> and many more of these errors
[09:07] <hateball> Xz: the nvidia installer will blacklist the nouveau driver in /etc/modprobe.d/
[09:07] <Xz> hateball: oh, so go straigth from where I am to the other one?
[09:07] <Ben64> Tazmain: yeah try a different mirror
[09:08] <hateball> Xz: yeah, no harm in trying that first
[09:08] <Xz> hateball: ok, fair play
[09:08] <Tazmain> Ben64, is there an easy way to do it from cli ?
[09:08] <Xz> hateball: ok, let me try that
[09:09] <Xz> hateball: that thing won't work
[09:10] <Xz> hateball: it says it wants me to disable secure-boot
[09:10] <Xz> hateball: otherwise it won't work
[09:10] <Xz> hateball: :o
[09:11] <Xz> hateball: looks like I can only live with nouveau
[09:11] <zeta> I'm trying apt-get upgrade bit it stops because mySQL 5.7.16 is a dependency, but I have 5.7.17
[09:12] <hateball> Xz: oh hmmm, it seems you'll need to do a manual install pointing to proper signing keys if you want to have secure boot...
[09:13] <Xz> hateball: manual install of a driver?
[09:13] <Xz> hateball: yes, secure boot is a requirement
[09:14] <Xz> hateball: do you know how to do that?
[09:14] <hateball> Xz: Nope, havent had the need to. I am just reading some docs now
[09:14] <ducasse> Xz: i told you, you can just tell the shim not to verify modules
[09:15] <Xz> ducasse: ok, so you are sure that will work with secure-boot?
[09:15] <Xz> ducasse: I don't understand why something optional like that would make its way to official release
[09:16] <ducasse> Xz: yes, the installer also can do this.
[09:16] <Xz> ducasse: ok, is it a grub option?
[09:16] <ducasse> Xz: you need to run mokutil --disable-validation
[09:16] <Xz> ducasse: on regular terminal? or grub?
[09:16] <ducasse> Xz: from a shell
[09:16] <Xz> ducasse: ok, done
[09:17] <Xz> ducasse: what now?
[09:17] <Xz> ducasse: should I try again load nvidia driver?
[09:17] <ducasse> Xz: reboot, then you can install the nvidia driver
[09:17] <Xz> ducasse: it's installed already
[09:17] <Xz> ducasse: should I install again?
[09:18] <ducasse> Xz: shouldn't be necessary, but i don't use nvidia myself.
[09:18] <Xz> ducasse: so tell me one more thing
[09:18] <Xz> ducasse: does that mokutil store its database on UEFI partition somewhere?
[09:19] <ducasse> Xz: i think it's stored in the shim efi binary, actually
[09:19] <Xz> ducasse: I'm asking because of a bug with UEFI on my system
[09:19] <Xz> ducasse: I had to DIY my UEFI partition
[09:19] <ducasse> Xz: yes, i remember
[09:19] <Xz> ducasse: so whatever mokutil does to the shim it might not find its way to the boot flow
[09:20] <Xz> ducasse: I copied /EFI/ubuntu onto /EFI/BOOT
[09:20] <Xz> ducasse: and renamed shim.efi to bootx64.efi
[09:20] <zamba> i have mounted an nfs share on my server.. when trying to access it i get permission denied
[09:20] <zamba> # ls -la | grep data
[09:20] <zamba> drwxrwxrwx   1 root   root  1166 Jan 30 09:18 data
[09:20] <zamba> what's wrong?
[09:21] <Xz> ducasse: if mokutil overwrites /EFI/ubuntu/shim.efi, I can copy that again into /EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi
[09:21] <ducasse> Xz: ok, i think you just need to test this. i can't tell you for certain how that works.
[09:21] <Xz> ducasse: of course
[09:21] <Xz> ducasse: ok, rebooting
[09:21] <ducasse> Xz: you can compare bootx64.efi with the shim to see if it's changed
[09:23] <Xz> ducasse: ok, rebooted
[09:23] <Xz> ducasse: I got some mokutil window during boot - so looks like something is happening
[09:24] <Xz> ducasse: in mokutil window I just said 'continue to boot'
[09:24] <sos> hello
[09:24] <Xz> ducasse: but my problem still persists - no graphics
[09:24] <sos> fools
[09:24] <ducasse> Xz: try reinstalling the driver
[09:24] <Xz> ducasse: apt-get remove nvidia-367 ?
[09:25] <ducasse> Xz: purge it
[09:25] <Xz> ducasse: only nvidia-367? or more?
[09:25] <ducasse> Xz: hateball? ^^ you know nvidia better than me.
[09:25] <Xz> ducasse: there might have been more pkgs
[09:26] <ducasse> Xz: i think just that one
[09:26] <Xz> ducasse: ok, install again?
[09:26] <ducasse> Xz: yup :)
[09:26] <tatertots> ChristianP?
[09:26] <ducasse> Xz: it should take a little time to build
[09:27] <Xz> ducasse: yeah, 338MB
[09:28] <hateball> ducasse, Xz: not sure which driver you used, but maybe you need to re-run dkms after changing the mokutil stuff
[09:28] <hateball> I havent dabbled with secure boot so
[09:28] <ducasse> he reinstalled the driver
[09:28]  * ducasse crosses fingers :)
[09:29] <Xz> hateball: what's dkms?
[09:29] <Xz> hateball: I'm little concerned when it comes to UEFI/secure boot as I have corporate build on that laptop
[09:29] <Xz> hateball: and I don't want things to go south
[09:30] <hateball> Xz: dkms is the thing that builds the kernel modules for you
[09:30] <Xz> hateball: because if I screw up Win10 that sits on internal SSD (UEFI boot/bitlocker) then I will have bigger problem
[09:30] <hateball> I am thinking maybe the installer detected you were using secure boot and when you didnt choose to disable it the script halted and never built any modules
[09:31] <ducasse> Xz: this should have no effect on your windows install.
[09:31] <Xz> hateball: well, I didn't have an option to choose
[09:31] <Xz> ducasse: *should*
[09:31] <Xz> ducasse: I can disable SSD in UEFI
[09:32] <Xz> ducasse: what's more interesting - when I do some changes to UEFI variables, bitlocker complains
[09:32] <Xz> ducasse: and it says 'not booting, stuff in UEFI changed, against policy!'
[09:32] <Xz> ducasse: then I reboot and UEFI resets stuff to default and bitlocker is happy again
[09:32] <Xz> ducasse: it's scary!
[09:33] <ducasse> Xz: typical ms stuff, imo.
[09:33] <Xz> ducasse: ok, now I got a prompt from apt-get
[09:33] <Xz> ducasse: asking about secure-boot
[09:33] <Xz> ducasse: what do I do now?
[09:33] <Xz> ducasse: it wants me to disable
[09:36] <Xz> ducasse: it says pretty much 'UEFI secure boot is not compatible with third-party drivers'
[09:38] <mattstroyer> Hi everyone! I need a advice. I am a fresh admin and i will be managing more than 20 servers. I need a software for monitoring and managing that. What could you propose me?
[09:41] <Xz> ducasse: hateball: ok, rebooted - still same thing
[09:41] <Xz> ducasse: hateball: nvidia driver is not loaded
[09:43] <hateball> Xz: can you see if it is built and exists at all? does it error if you try loading it manually?
[09:46] <Xz> hateball: yes, it says 'required key not available' when I try to load manually nvidia-367
[09:46] <Xz> hateball: and then doesn't insert
[09:46] <Xz> hateball: yes, it is built and installed on the system
[09:47] <Xz> hateball: apt-get finishes with no errors
[09:47] <ducasse> Xz: read this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/769268/unable-to-disable-secure-boot-with-mokutil-in-16-04#773194
[09:47] <hateball> Xz: did you try 378 after running mokutil ?
[09:47] <Xz> hateball: other than that warning about secure-boot
[09:47] <Xz> hateball: yeah, 378 wanted to do same thing -disable secure boot
[09:47] <Xz> hateball: I said no
[09:47] <hateball> alright
[09:47] <Dominique> Hi, anyone here knows how to generate a custom RHEL7 image for Ubuntu MAAS ? Seeing as maas-image-builder is now deprecated.
[09:47] <Xz> hateball: and it didn't eeven install 378 because of that
[09:48] <hateball> Xz: Well then I dont really know, as I said I dont know about secure boot
[09:48] <Jettis> mattstroyer: check nagios for example
[09:48] <ducasse> Xz: it doesn't actually disable it, software can't do that.
[09:48] <hateball> Xz: if you wish revert to nouveau, purge nvidia-367 and it should remove the blacklist of nouveau
[09:48] <Xz> hateball: yeah, I'm currently on nouveau
[09:48] <Xz> hateball: but if there is any chance to get proper driver, I'm willing to try
[09:49] <Xz> ducasse: are you saying that prompt will not mess with UEFI, only with shim?
[09:49] <ducasse> Xz: yes.
[09:49] <Xz> ducasse: how do you know?
[09:49] <mattstroyer> Jettis: and what you think about zabbix?
[09:50] <ducasse> Xz: because it _can't_ disable secure boot. think about it - if software could just disable it, it wouldn't be of any value at all.
[09:50] <Xz> ducasse: I just compared binaries of shim that I have
[09:50] <Xz> ducasse: they are all the same, untouched
[09:50] <ducasse> Xz: i suggest you read the link i just sent.
[09:51] <Xz> ducasse: so mkutil didn't mess with EFI partition
[09:51] <Xz> ducasse: I just did
[09:52] <Xz> ducasse: is it saying that I should install nvidia drivers and answer 'yes' for that secure-boot prompt
[09:52] <Xz> ducasse: ?
[09:52] <epicmonster> guys, stupid question, how to send message to some specific person in channel?
[09:53] <hateball> !who | epicmonster
[09:53] <Xz> epicmonster:  /msg nick
[09:53] <ducasse> Xz: "However: in my case, the problem was I didn't type sudo: sudo mokutil --disable-validation. After that reboot, Shim was starting and I was able to disable secure boot after shim without disabling secure boot in the BIOS (which is necessary for Windows dual boot)."
[09:53] <epicmonster> ty, guys!
[09:53] <Xz> ducasse: yeah, I run mokutil as root
[09:53] <Xz> ducasse: and I didn't have a single error
[09:53] <Xz> ducasse: mokutil finished nicely
[09:53] <Jettis> mattstroyer: dont know, have not used that
[09:53] <ducasse> Xz: ok, did you do anything in mokutil during boot?
[09:53] <Xz> ducasse: and on next reboot I got some screen from mokutil asking for something
[09:53] <Xz> ducasse: nope, just said' continue to boot'
[09:54] <epicmonster> !who | epicmonster
[09:54] <Xz> ducasse: but there was screen
[09:54] <ducasse> Xz: i think you need to read that screen more carefully, and tell it to disable validation.
[09:54] <Xz> ducasse: ok, how do I get thta screen again? -.-V
[09:55] <ducasse> Xz: run mokutil again
[09:55] <koen_> sudo service crond status returns me this crond.service    Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)    Active: inactive (dead)
[09:55] <Xz> ducasse: ok, running '--disable-validation' again
[09:55] <koen_> how can i fix it? i m in ubuntu
[09:55] <Xz> ducasse: and rebooting
[09:58] <ppf> koen_: it's just systemctl status crond
[09:58] <ppf> sorry
[09:58] <ppf> koen_: it's just systemctl status cron
[09:58] <ppf> no d
[09:59] <Xz> ducasse: ok, I booted in 'insecure mode' as advertised by grub
[10:00] <Xz> ducasse: checked in the meantime if secure-boot was enabled in UEFI and if win10 still boots
[10:00] <Xz> ducasse: both yes
[10:00] <Xz> ducasse: so far so good
[10:00] <Xz> ducasse: do I install now nvidia stuff?
[10:00] <ducasse> Xz: which version did hateball tell you to use?
[10:01] <Xz> ducasse: he just said to try both
[10:01] <Xz> hateball: any preference for nvidia driver?
[10:01] <ducasse> Xz: try the later one first, i think.
[10:01] <Xz> ducasse: later one required some additional repos
[10:02] <ducasse> Xz: ok, then try 367 or whatever it was
[10:02] <Xz> ducasse: if I understand correctly, now only shim booted in secure mode (as required by uefi) and then shim kicked off kernel/rootfs in regular, insecure mode?
[10:03] <ducasse> Xz: the shim still validates the kernel aiui, but the kernel does not do further validation of modules as it normally would
[10:03] <hateball> ducasse: 378
[10:04] <hateball> Xz: ^
[10:04] <Xz> hateball: ok, installing 378
[10:04] <hateball> latest and greatest and all that
[10:04] <hateball> There were some UEFI related fixings 370+, but again I have no idea about secure boot as I do not use it myself
[10:05] <Xz> ducasse: hateball: so does linux all the way think I'm booted in non-secure mode now?
[10:05] <ducasse> Xz: you can check with mokutil --sb-state
[10:05] <Xz> ducasse: that one says 'secure boot enabled'
[10:05] <Xz> ducasse: interesting
[10:07] <Xz> hateball: ducasse ok, apt-get only warned about possibly missing firmware for i915 (I assume that's intel graphics)
[10:07] <Xz> hateball: ducasse hopefully I can address that later with some linux-firmware pkg or something similar
[10:07] <Xz> hateball: ducasse: should I reboot now?
[10:08] <ducasse> Xz: yes, that's intel - they released the driver but not the firmware yet :)
[10:08] <Xz> ducasse: awesome!
[10:08] <ducasse> Xz: are you booted with nouveau?
[10:08] <Xz> ducasse: yes
[10:09] <ducasse> Xz: then reboot, yes
[10:09] <Xz> ducasse: ok, hopefully no questions asked during boot
[10:09] <Xz> ducasse: should I do nomodeset in grub?
[10:10] <ducasse> Xz: no nomodeset i think
[10:11] <ducasse> Xz: but i'm really not certain, as i said i don't use nvidia myself, but intel
[10:12] <Xz> ducasse: rebooted
[10:12] <Xz> ducasse: no graphics :<
[10:13] <ducasse> Xz: black screen?
[10:13] <Xz> ducasse: nope, login screen displayed corrrectly
[10:13] <Xz> ducasse: but then when I input password and hit enter - it flickers and goes back to the same one
[10:13] <hateball> Xz: you havent been doing sudo stuff in GUI? That could mess up your ~/.Xauthority
[10:13] <Xz> ducasse: at least now nvidia driver is loaded
[10:14] <hateball> Xz: so make sure your user owns that, and not root
[10:14] <Xz> hateball: nope, I haven't use gGUI at all
[10:14] <ducasse> Xz: ok, that's progress at least
[10:14] <Xz> hateball: it's owned by the user
[10:14] <Xz> ducasse: I can switch in UEFI to use only NVIDIA
[10:14] <Xz> ducasse: as currently it's set to 'auto' which I means OS is free to change it on the fly
[10:14] <ducasse> Xz: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors
[10:14] <hateball> Xz: anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[10:15] <Anonymouxxx> hello
[10:15] <Anonymouxxx> is anyone on
[10:16] <Xz> hateball: ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898654
[10:17] <ducasse> Xz: try to login as guest
[10:17] <Xz> ducasse: hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23898657
[10:17] <Xz> ducasse: guest does same thing
[10:18] <Anonymouxxx> im an ubuntu user and im interested in learning pentesting and proggramming. i geuss i classify as a greenhat. would anyone mind leading me to such information?
[10:18] <abb4s> hey every body i just installed ubuntu 16 but  grub dont list windows 10 , where is the problem  ?
[10:19] <Anonymouxxx> helloabb4s: did you install ubuntu before or after windows?
[10:19] <abb4s> Anonymouxxx: after windows 10
[10:20] <abb4s> is that related to  uefi stuffs ? should i install ubuntu in uefi mode ?
[10:20] <Anonymouxxx> okay then it should be listed. do you boot directly to ubntu
[10:20] <EriC^^> abb4s: open a terminal, type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" paste the link here
[10:20] <Anonymouxxx> well hes solved it ha
[10:21] <Xz> ducasse: hateball I will try to manipulate Graphics card selection in UEFI
[10:21] <hateball> Xz: you can also install nvidia-prime
[10:21] <hateball> Xz: and use prime-select to make sure it tries to use nvidia
[10:22] <abb4s> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23898676/
[10:22] <braggit> hello i just instaled a new kernel. i see that in gru i have tgo to advnced optios to use hat kerne. how can  make thatthe defuat  ubunu>/
[10:22] <braggit> WTF!??this new krnel tolly FUCEKED my kyboard!
[10:22] <hateball> Xz: I dont use hybrid setups either, so I dont know much about it... but if it tries loading intel when you log in and there is no firmware for that it seems it should break
[10:22] <abb4s> EriC^^:  im in university and ther port 9999 is closed so i paste it here https://paste.ubuntu.com/23898676/
[10:23] <EriC^^> abb4s: ok, type "ls -l /sys/firmware/efi"
[10:23] <EriC^^> does it show you a bunch of dirs?
[10:24] <Xz> hateball: ducasse hey, works now! I selected explicitly 'discrete' in UEFI
[10:24] <Xz> hateball: ducasse discrete = NVIDIA
[10:24] <abb4s> EriC^^:  ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
[10:24] <ducasse> Xz: wunderbar!
[10:24] <EriC^^> abb4s: ok, you need to reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode
[10:24] <Xz> ducasse: should I try attaching external display? now is the time?
[10:24] <ducasse> Xz: sure
[10:25] <Xz> ducasse: wow, that worked!
[10:25] <Xz> ducasse: resolution is off, but hopefully I can configure that
[10:25] <EriC^^> abb4s: 1 important advice, in the installer don't choose "reinstall ubuntu" it will erase everything, choose Something else and manually partition instead
[10:25] <leeyaa> hello
[10:25] <ducasse> Xz: it usually does :) try nvidia-settings
[10:25] <hateball> Xz: nvidia-settings is what you wnat for that
[10:25] <abb4s> EriC^^:  how shoud i install it in uefi mode , it hasnot an option for uefi when installing
[10:25] <leeyaa> does an ubuntu system need all the default cron jobs ?
[10:25] <EriC^^> abb4s: you have to boot the usb in uefi mode, in the boot options menu it should be USB and USB UEFI
[10:26] <Xz> hateball: ducasse not a regular 'display settings' thingy from ubuntu?
[10:26] <EriC^^> abb4s: or an option in the bios how to boot USB's
[10:26] <EriC^^> abb4s: when the installer boots, press try ubuntu then try "ls /sys/firmware/efi" in a terminal to make sure you're booted in uefi mode then install
[10:27] <ducasse> Xz: try, i have no clue.
[10:27] <abb4s> EriC^^:  okay , so EriC^^ if i want to have dual boot os i should install both in uefi  ?
[10:27] <EriC^^> abb4s: yes
[10:28] <Lux_> hi
[10:29] <Lux_> anyone awake in here??
[10:32] <Xz> ducasse: hateball well, external display displays only 1600x1200 res even though it could go 2560x1600
[10:32] <Xz> ducasse: hateball all higher resolutions are not shown
[10:32] <ducasse> Xz: in the ubuntu gui or nvidia-settings?
[10:32] <Xz> ducasse: both
[10:33] <koen_> can someone help me clear the concept about umask
[10:33] <Ben64> koen_: ask
[10:33] <ducasse> Xz: you can add modes manually, but it's a bit of a hassle.
[10:33] <koen_> so umask is basically to set the default permission, what would happen if we umask over a file? the permissions willbe removed?
[10:33] <Xz> ducasse: I tried adding through nvidia gui, but it didn't take it
[10:34] <Ben64> koen_: how do you umask over a file
[10:34] <koen_> suppose if i give chmod 457 file1 #it has read for user,read+write fr group,all for everyone
[10:34] <koen_> if at all we give umask 0457 file1.. what would be the result
[10:34] <Ben64> that's not how umask works
[10:35] <EriC^^> koen_: read is 4 and write is 2, exec is 1
[10:35] <koen_> EriC^^: yes did i tell anything wrong
[10:35] <koen_> Ben64: oh could u brief me more
[10:35] <Ben64> umask doesn't work on files
[10:36] <Ben64> it's a default setting for new stuff
[10:36] <ducasse> Xz: the last time i did that must have been 15-20 years ago, and the process has changed a bit with the introduction of randr.
[10:37] <koen_> Ben64: ook so what does umask 457 means?
[10:37] <koen_> Ben64: ook so what does umask 0457 means?
[10:38] <Ben64> try it and see
[10:38] <EriC^^> koen_: when you do umask you're setting umask for the user for any future file creations, and it's the inverse of chmod, 227 for umask is like chmod 550
[10:38] <EriC^^> koen_: yes, in your example above
[10:38] <ducasse> Xz: basically you create a modeline with cvt and add it with xrandr, then write a modeline snippet and put in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d to make it permanent.
[10:39] <koen_> EriC^^: so by default the umask subtracts from 777?
[10:40] <Xz> ducasse: random people on the internet say that I cannot push full 2560x1600 over HDMI cable
[10:40] <Xz> ducasse: and I'm using HDMI
[10:40] <EriC^^> koen_: yes
[10:40] <ducasse> Xz: ah, there you go then. you should be able to do 1920x1080, though.
[10:41] <EriC^^> koen_: so 457 would be 320
[10:41] <Xz> ducasse: nope, doesn't let me
[10:42] <koen_> EriC^^: great
[10:42] <ducasse> Xz: i said _should_ :)
[10:42] <Xz> ducasse: it works on windows though
[10:42] <Xz> ducasse: I can get full resolution over the same cable ...
[10:44] <ducasse> Xz: according to intel, hdmi 1.4 can do 3840x2160@24Hz
[10:46] <Xz> ducasse: according to experience on win10 - my hardware can display 2560x1600 on that display
[10:46] <Xz> ducasse: so yeah, there should be a way
[10:46] <Xz> ducasse: should I approach that with modeline?
[10:47] <ducasse> Xz: that's the only way i know of. but again, i don't know anything about the nvidia driver.
[10:52] <hateball> Xz: does xrandr show no higher res either?
[10:53] <Xz> hateball: nope, 1600x1200 is highest randr shows
[10:53] <Xz> hateball: well, it says 'dp-6 disconnected 2560x1600'
[10:54] <Xz> hateball: but my external display is now identified as 'dp-1'
[10:54] <Xz> hateball: but it might b e because I was just trying to add mode
[10:56] <ducasse> Xz: that sounds reasonable.
[10:56] <hanshenrik> will 16.04 move to 4.9 now that its LTS?
[10:56] <Xz> ducasse: except it doesn't do anything
[10:57] <Xz> ducasse: Error of failed request: BadMatch
[10:58] <ducasse> hanshenrik: it will get the kernel 17.04 will be released with, but that is months away.
[10:58] <ducasse> Xz: when you do what, exactly?
[10:58] <Xz> ducasse: should I run xrandr as root btw?
[10:58] <Xz> ducasse: when I try to '--addmode'
[10:59] <hanshenrik> ducasse, interesting, thanks. know which version it's currently running?
[10:59] <ducasse> Xz: should not need to, can't remember ever doing so.
[10:59] <k1l> hanshenrik: ducasse 16.04.2 will get the 16.10 backportskernel.
[10:59] <hanshenrik> which kernel does 16.10 have?
[10:59] <k1l> hanshenrik: but you need to install one package for that. it will not upgrade to the new kernel automatically. you can stay on the 4.4 kernel fpr the whole time.
[11:00] <k1l> hanshenrik: 4.8 with patches from 4.9
[11:00] <hanshenrik> ohk
[11:00] <ducasse> k1l: eventually, though, it will get the 17.04 kernel too, right?
[11:01] <k1l> ducasse: some time after, yes. with 16.04.3 then
[11:01] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A16.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[11:03] <ducasse> Xz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution
[11:04] <koen_> i have a question with sticky bit, sticky bit is sometimes given someone to delete a file where we don have access
[11:04] <koen_> is that true?
[11:05] <EriC^^> koen_: it's to share a dir among many users
[11:05] <Xz> ducasse: yeah, keep getting same thing over again
[11:05] <Xz> ducasse: X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[11:06] <EriC^^> koen_: like /tmp
[11:06] <ducasse> Xz: seems sudo is needed after all
[11:07] <koen_> EriC^^: great so does that mean only the root users can set this bit?
[11:07] <Xz> ducasse: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[11:07] <Xz> ducasse: different error with sudo :)
[11:07] <EriC^^> koen_: no i think any user who owns a dir can
[11:08] <ducasse> Xz: did you do _precisely_ as that link says?
[11:08] <EriC^^> koen_: try it out
[11:11] <Xz> ducasse: yes, exactly
[11:13] <ducasse> Xz: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/851704/xrandr-errors-badname-named-color-or-font-does-not-exist#3414850
[11:16] <Xz> ducasse: still no go
[11:16] <Xz> ducasse: I'm seeing same problem, 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'
[11:17] <ppf> is there a way to disable mouse drag?
[11:18] <ducasse> Xz: did you read the following answer as well?
[11:18] <ppf> for accessibility reasons i want to avoid a long click being registered as mouse drag
[11:19] <Xz> ducasse: yes!
[11:20] <cybex_> hi, I'm having problems with booting. I booted to livecd, moved my root from sda7 (ext4) to another partition, sda6 (btrfs). After moving, mounted my new root partition (sda6) to /mnt.
[11:20] <cybex_> Then ran "grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/@/boot /dev/sda6" where /dev/sda6 is my new btrfs partition - source (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing)
[11:20] <cybex_> Reason: ofc to switch to btrfs and remove middle partition. <<< PROBLEM >>> Gnome freezes right before showing login screen, i,e. gnome circle spins, then freezes. logs dont show anything (/var/log), since logs havne't started yet. How can I solve this?
[11:22] <cybex_> p.s. when copying over the old grub.cfg (as grub did not detect my current linux installation), I changed the necessary UUID's, the msdos7 -> msdos6 and the vmlinuz and initrd.img locations from /boot/... to /@/boot/... and added rootflags=subvol=@
[11:23] <cybex_> where @ is my root subvolume
[11:23] <ducasse> Xz: ok, i'm out of ideas and don't really have time to go googling this any further. maybe another version of the nvidia driver works better, i know that's often the case.
[11:23] <Xz> ducasse: yeah, I will research on my own as well
[11:23] <Xz> ducasse: thanks for your time!
[11:23] <ducasse> Xz: no problem :) i would try nvidia-367, i think.
[11:24] <Xz> ducasse: yeah, that's a good idea
[11:26] <ducasse> Xz: do that, let me know how it works out. i expect you can just install it and it will conflict with the newer so that is removed.
[11:28] <hateball> ducasse, Xz that is the case yes
[11:29] <Xz> ducasse: well, I would purge old one and install 367
[11:29] <ducasse> Xz: shouldn't matter - do it the way you are comfortable with.
[11:46] <hadewa> Hi
[11:52] <panicstr> Hello all. I'm doing a release upgrade on Ubuntu server remotely, and it currently shows
[11:52] <panicstr> Restarting services possibly affected by the upgrade:
[11:52] <panicstr> it's been like that for a while, has something gone wrong?
[11:57] <hadewa> hi
[11:58] <cfhowlett> might ask #ubuntu-server, panicstr
[11:58] <ducasse> panicstr: can you define 'a while'?
[11:58] <panicstr> ok thx
[11:58] <hadewa> hi
[11:58] <panicstr> about half an hour
[11:58] <cfhowlett> hadewa, ask your ubuntu question
[11:59] <hadewa> no
[11:59] <ducasse> panicstr: that's long. ask the guys in #ubuntu-server what to do now, should be possible to recover from.
[11:59] <panicstr> ok thanks
[12:00] <hadewa> test
[12:00] <cfhowlett> hadewa, yes we see you.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.  thank you.
[12:00] <ducasse> Xz: any progress?
[12:04] <panicstr> another question: how can i connect to an existing ssh session on pts/2
[12:05] <ducasse> panicstr: the upgrade should be running in a screen session by default, you can connect to that. otherwise there is no way.
[12:09] <panicstr> I started the upgrade in a ssh session from computer located in the server's local network. Now i'm connected from a remote location. I did a screen -r -d and got something that appears to be the upgrade session, is this correct?
[12:10] <ducasse> panicstr: sounds correct
[12:11] <ducasse> panicstr: i don't remember screen syntax as i've switched to tmux, but that looks familiar
[12:11] <horsewhip> Any got a Kabylake XPS 13?
[12:11] <horsewhip> *anyone
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !details | horsewhip, please focus your question into useable form.
[12:12] <horsewhip> Apologies, wrong channel – didn't realise this was a support channel, rather than a generci one.
[12:13] <cfhowlett> horsewhip, no worries; #ubuntu-offtopic       might be worth visiting
[12:19] <No> Hey
[12:19] <No> Is there a C-Coder there?
[12:20] <ppf> probably, but C-questions go in ##C
[12:20] <cfhowlett> no there is a dedicated channel
[12:20] <No> Damn didn't saw it
[12:20] <No> Thank
[12:20] <No> I'm a noob. How to?
[12:21] <foolio> Hi.
[12:21] <No> HI
[12:21] <azx> when i close the lid on my laptop and open it, after about 30 seconds ubuntu will go to sleep
[12:21] <No> Unlucky
[12:21] <azx> and ill click power button to wake it up
[12:21] <azx> and it will do it again
[12:21] <azx> so i have to force reboot
[12:22] <azx> because it goes to sleep infinitely
[12:22] <azx> i can never close lid
[12:24] <azx> sorry for the spam, i'm trying type quietly :
[12:24] <dimisdas> Try changing lid action to nothing and see what happens
[12:24] <ViPure> Does anyone know why debian doesn't see my network card from my hp but ubuntu see it ?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> probably a question for #debian ViPure
[12:24] <dimisdas> Edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf with a text editor, add a line “HandleLidSwitch=ignore”
[12:25] <ViPure> Oh I'm sorry wrong chat :)
[12:25] <dimisdas> and then sudo service systemd-logind restart
[12:25] <ViPure> my bad
[12:25] <foolio> I've got a question. Howto Upgrade from Ubuntu Server 14.04.4 LTS to Ubuntu Server 14.04.5. I've already tried apt-get update / apt-upgrade and dist-upgrade. And also done #apt-get -s install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial. But lsb_release -a shows Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[12:26] <zeta> I'm trying apt-get upgrade but it stops because mySQL 5.7.16 is a dependency, but I have 5.7.17 any suggestions ?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:29] <ducasse> zeta: can you pastebin full output?
[12:30] <apg> where is the location of file that is printed everytime login to ubuntu server?
[12:31] <dimisdas> apg: /var/log/auth.log ?
[12:32] <EriC^^> apg: it's a collection of files in /etc/update-motd.d
[12:33] <apg> how do I disable all the files being printed?
[12:35] <zeta> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:35] <zeta>  mysql-server-5.7 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.7 (= 5.7.16-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) but 5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 is installed
[12:35] <zeta> I tried with -f but got the same
[12:36] <everson> Heya, I've made a change to modprobe.d, how to I restart the service without resetting the whole PC?
[12:36] <k1l> zeta: please run "apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.7  mysql-server-core-5.7 | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here
[12:36] <whothehellami> hi, I've installed virtualgl on a server a while ago. I could see graphical output of a opencl program once I connected to that server with vglconnect -s and run the program with vglrun. But this isn't working anymore. Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key[VGL] ERROR: Could not open display :0. Any suggestions how to figure out what the problem is?
[12:37] <EriC^^> apg: sudo chmod 600 /etc/update-motd.d/*
[12:37] <EriC^^> everson: what service?
[12:37] <everson> EriC^^, alsa-base
[12:38] <EriC^^> everson: no idea
[12:38] <everson> EriC^^, I think alsa reload did the trick
[12:39] <EriC^^> cool
[12:40] <everson> basically trying to get my earphone mic (from my samsung phone) to record, but no luck
[12:40] <zeta> kil, ducasse : http://termbin.com/did9
[12:40] <everson> https://n2.sdlcdn.com/imgs/b/a/b/Samsung-samsung-EHS61ASFWE-Earbuds-Wired-SDL242163512-1-9fc9c.jpg
[12:40] <everson> output works great but recording doesnt
[12:41] <EriC^^> everson: try pavucontrol
[12:41] <zeta> nc termin is neat btw, didn't know about it
[12:43] <everson> EriC^^, I've installed pavucontrol thanks trying to get it to find my earphone mic
[12:43] <k1l> zeta: hmm, somehow the core package already got the security update, but the metapackage did not
[12:46] <zeta> Should I try --only-upgrade ?
[12:46] <zeta> I have only done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade btw
[12:47] <zeta> I might have done an apt upgrade, though, can that mess things up ?
[12:47] <zeta> Should I only use apt-get xor apt ?
[12:49] <lolada>  $ apt
[12:49] <lolada> apt 1.2.19 (amd64)
[12:49] <lolada> Usage: apt [options] command
[12:49] <lolada> apt is a commandline package manager and provides commands for
[12:49] <lolada> searching and managing as well as querying information about packages.
[12:49] <lolada> It provides the same functionality as the specialized APT tools,
[12:50] <zeta> so using apt should be safe
[12:50] <zeta> apt wants to install more packages though !?
[12:52] <ciao> ciao
[12:53] <ciao> film avatar
[12:54] <cfhowlett> ciao, no.   no torrents here and no piracy.  look somewhere else
[12:54] <zeta> How can I resolve core package already having the security update ? but metapackage has not ?
[13:03] <JBond13> bonjour
[13:05] <rossoscript> ciao
[13:05] <rossoscript> !list
[13:15] <zeta> when trying to force install:
[13:15] <zeta> cp: cannot overwrite directory '/var/lib/mysql-upgrade/DATADIR.link/mysql' with non-directory
[13:15] <zeta> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.7_5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[13:24] <k1l> zeta: did you try a "sudo apt full-upgrade" already?
[13:26] <xXEoflaOEXx> Oops! I got my USB to boot, My BIOS is incorrectly configured! I can install Lubuntu!
[13:27] <k1l> zeta: if that still doesnt work try a "sudo dpkg -i --force-all mysql-server-5.7"
[13:30] <akiel> g nickserv identify cogitoergosum
[13:30] <zeta> I found possible cause: little space left on root
[13:30] <Hassan> سلام
[13:30] <k1l> zeta: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:30] <Hassan> hello
[13:30] <Hassan> Hiiii
[13:31] <Hassan> :-(
[13:31] <k1l> zeta: but that means you did not tell us the whole errormessages at first. because apt tells when that is the cause
[13:31] <Hassan> by
[13:31] <zeta> kil, it only showed up when I did apt full-upgrade -f
[13:32] <zeta> I have 96% usage on /
[13:33] <zeta> 212M available 4,4G used
[13:33] <k1l> run apt autoremove and autoclean
[13:34] <FinalX>  not a whole big root partition to begin with, then, if 4.4G used and 0.2G available. install guides recommend 25G .. I find 8 GB to be a bit lacking for servers, let alone for desktops
[13:38] <k1l_> look at old kernels and headers pacakges.  zeta
[13:39] <zeta> http://termbin.com/3yc1
[13:41] <k1l_> zeta: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:45] <zeta> http://termbin.com/7s83
[13:46] <zeta> apt autoremove stops because of mysql
[13:47] <zeta> autoclean worked but didn't seem to do much
[13:48] <k1l_> well, you got a lot of 3.13 kernels still in there.
[13:49] <k1l_> sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-3.13.0-86-generic
[13:56] <zeta> it don't want to remove them because of dependencies
[13:57] <k1l_> zeta: please show the full output on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:57] <zeta> sda1 has 37G
[13:58] <zeta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23899452/
[13:59] <k1l_> sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-3.13.0-86-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-86-generic
[14:01] <zeta> I now have 590MB available
[14:03] <k1l_> first run "sudo apt full-upgrade" and see if it runs through now.
[14:03] <k1l_> then you need to ged rid of all the old kernels and headers
[14:04] <zeta> sudo apt full-upgrade complains about mysql
[14:04] <zeta> why is only 5G being used ?
[14:05] <zeta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23899481/
[14:05] <k1l_> zeta: your lvm partition is only that big. i dont know what you made there
[14:06] <zeta> I think I just picked the default when installing Ubuntu server
[14:09] <cfhowlett> zeta best practice suggests purging all except the most recent 2 kernels.
[14:10] <zeta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23899552/
[14:11] <k1l_> zeta: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:12] <far_away> I want to delete all of my .py files except skeleton.py. Is there a way I can do that using "rm"?
[14:13] <John[Lisbeth]> What is the ansi c compiler for ubuntu?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> far_away, sure.  rm *.py        AFTER you rename skeleton.py.BACKUP.  after removals, rename the file again
[14:13] <thewalkingpunch> hello
[14:13] <IW> hi
[14:13] <milad_> hello there
[14:13] <thewalkingpunch> wer deutsch
[14:14] <cfhowlett> !de | thewalkingpunch
[14:14] <zeta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23899570/
[14:15] <thewalkingpunch> hello
[14:15] <far_away> thanks cfhowlett!
[14:15] <cfhowlett> happy2help! far_away
[14:15] <k1l_> zeta: linux-headers, not linux-image on my last command
[14:16] <zeta> http://termbin.com/ls85
[14:17] <zeta> I guess next step is to remove the 3.13 headers too
[14:17] <k1l_> zeta: sudo dpkg -r linux-headers-3.13.*
[14:17] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[14:19] <zeta> it didn't like the *
[14:19] <k1l_> zeta: then manually copy the 3.13 kernel headers packages from your pastebin output
[14:24] <zeta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23899601/
[14:24] <saurabh> hi I'm using a hp pavilion laptop with 4GB ram and 1TB storage. Im running 14.04.5 (clean install)
[14:24] <saurabh> it consumes 550 MB on booting
[14:25] <saurabh> however when I install android studio and run the emulator it freezes and consumes to a halt
[14:25] <saurabh> i have changed the swappiness to 10
[14:25] <saurabh> however it is not helping
[14:25] <saurabh> RAM usage 550MB + 700MB (android studio) + 700MB(gradle) + 1.5 GB qemu image should fit in 4GB
[14:26] <saurabh> but it doesn't
[14:26] <saurabh> I've modified android studio properties to force heap size to 512MB
[14:26] <saurabh> Shouldn't 4GB be sufficient?
[14:27] <saurabh> also i kill gradle when building it complete.
[14:27] <saurabh> please don't suggest geanymotion
[14:27] <saurabh> I want the default emulator
[14:28] <k1l_> zeta: ok, that is a totally different issue no
[14:28] <k1l_> *now
[14:30] <saurabh> android studio version 2.2.3
[14:30] <saurabh> with instant run
[14:30] <saurabh> *enabled
[14:31] <zeta> The data dir is on the zfs tank pool
[14:34] <zeta> replacing it with an emty dir doesn't sound good :P
[14:35] <zeta> or non-directory witch ever that means
[14:36] <zeta> apt upgrade can be scary sometimes
[14:37] <zeta> one time it removed the zfs pool
[14:37] <zeta> but I was able to get it back
[14:38] <hridoy> hridayduta123
[14:38] <hridoy> #mediawiki
[14:41] <techo> help! whenever i open my pc i got this pop up window (failure to download extra files)  https://ibin.co/3An0K9g5qKXO.png
[14:42] <diskin> techo, known problem, I also see the same
[14:42] <techo> diskin: how to get rid from this?
[14:42] <diskin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/852302/failure-to-download-extra-data-files-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[14:44] <diskin> techo, see the page I pasted above, and check the answer from Hsquare
[14:48] <Emmarof> Hello
[14:49] <Emmarof> I have a problem upgrading my 14.04 LTS to the latest version
[14:49] <k1l_> zeta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-10.0/+bug/1474212
[14:49] <Emmarof> It didnt fail
[14:49] <Emmarof> I am told my software is up to date
[14:50] <k1l_> zeta: but i am not a mysql guy and dont know how much that is an issue to remove temporarily  etc
[14:51] <compdoc> Emmarof, is it still 14.04 ?
[14:51] <Emmarof> yes it is
[14:52] <compdoc> what command did you use to upgrade?
[14:52] <Emmarof> sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:52] <compdoc> thats the right one. what does the command say:  uname -a
[14:53] <k1l_> Emmarof: what gives you "uname  -a" and "lsb_release -sd"?
[14:54] <Emmarof> Linux code 4.4.0-59-generic #80~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 18:02:02 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:54] <Emmarof> that's the output of uname -a
[14:54] <compdoc> , thats the 16.04 kernel
[14:54] <compdoc> so you are upgraded
[14:55] <k1l_> compdoc: its the 14.04 backports kernel from HWE
[14:56] <compdoc> I see
[14:57] <ppf> so, i'm still looking for a solution to this: is there a way to disable mouse drag? for accessibility reasons i want to avoid a long click being registered as mouse drag
[14:57] <zeta> k1l_, I think I'll wait until tomorrow before trying the fix, so that I have the whole day just in case. Thanks a lot for you help!
[14:58] <Emmarof> So is that the 16.04 kernel?
[14:58] <theprasad> i am getting
[14:58] <theprasad> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. error while executing apt-get update command
[14:58] <k1l_> Emmarof: no
[14:58] <k1l_> Emmarof: what brings you "lsd_release -sd"?
[14:58] <Emmarof> So how do I get that?
[14:58] <Afdla> How to change mouse sensitivity from command line? My sensitivity is too high and can't get it lower through the GUI.
[14:58] <k1l_> theprasad: please put the full output on paste.ubuntu.com and show it here
[14:58] <cfhowlett> k1l_, lsd?
[14:59] <k1l_> Emmarof: "lsb_release -sd" sorry typo before
[14:59] <k1l_> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:59] <cfhowlett> :)
[15:00] <theprasad> kll_ see http://paste.ubuntu.com/23899732/
[15:00] <Emmarof> lsb_release -sd
[15:01] <Emmarof> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[15:01] <cfhowlett> theprasad, try a different mirror
[15:01] <Emmarof> Thats the output
[15:01] <k1l_> Emmarof: ok, that is still 14.04 then.
[15:01] <k1l_> Emmarof: if you want to upgrade run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[15:02] <theprasad> sudo do-release-upgrade after executing i am getting WARNING:root:file 'wily.tar.gz.gpg' missing
[15:02] <Emmarof> Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found
[15:02] <k1l_> theprasad: hmmm, precise is still supported (some months left) and is on the servers.
[15:02] <Emmarof> That's the feedback I get
[15:02] <theprasad> kll_
[15:02] <k1l_> theprasad: that command was not for you.
[15:03] <k1l_> Emmarof: is that a desktop?
[15:03] <Emmarof> Yes
[15:03] <theprasad> server
[15:03] <Emmarof> It's a desktop
[15:03] <theprasad> Ubuntu 15.04
[15:03] <Tahr-Poop_> Afdla, then use keyboard to navigate through GUI
[15:03] <theprasad> kll any suggestion to resolve
[15:04] <k1l_> theprasad: i preface the messages directed to you with your nick. dont run commands meant for others.
[15:04] <k1l_> theprasad: your source.list says you are on 12.04. not 15.04. what is the output of "uname -a" and "lsb_release -sd"?
[15:05] <k1l_> Emmarof: what is the output of "tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"?
[15:05] <theprasad> uname -a
[15:05] <theprasad> Linux test 3.19.0-78-generic #86-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 6 17:17:43 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:05] <theprasad> lsb_release -sd
[15:05] <theprasad>  Ubuntu 15.04
[15:06] <linux_user> Hello all!
[15:06] <linux_user> I found this program 'clock' in Ubuntu GNOME (very nice, allows multiple time zones and such), is it possible to somehow use it as a screensaver???
[15:07] <cfhowlett> theprasad, sounds like end of life upgrade time ...
[15:07] <Emmarof> Prompt=normal
[15:07] <cfhowlett> better yet, a clean installation
[15:08]  * wuseman 
 : but it is my production server located other place how to do  clean installation
[15:09] <linux_user> I do up too 2 upgrades, then I do a full reinstall
[15:09] <cfhowlett> theprasad, ah, see, little details like that do matter.  so end of life upgrade it is
[15:09]  * wuseman wuseman
[15:09] <theprasad> how to resolve this
[15:10] <linux_user> anyone know about my screensaver question?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !eol | theprasad please read
[15:15]  * linux_user says: I found this program 'clock' in Ubuntu GNOME (very nice, allows multiple time zones and such), is it possible to somehow use it as a screensaver???
[15:16] <k1l_> Emmarof: sorry was afk
[15:17] <k1l_> theprasad: that server is a mess.
[15:17] <k1l_> theprasad: its running 15.04, which is out of support and not meant for servers. its 12.04 in the sources.list which doesnt match what is installed.
[15:18] <theprasad> now what to do to resolve  kll_
[15:18] <Southern_Gentlem> k1l_, what is the version of systemd in Ubuntu?
[15:19] <nicomachus> Southern_Gentlem: 229
[15:19] <k1l_> theprasad: i suggest you make a backup of your data on that server and plan a downtime to get that sorted. i suggest you make a new install of 14.04 or 16.04 . 16.04 ships with php7 you might want to test that first with your production data.
[15:19] <Southern_Gentlem> good
[15:19] <deadbit> does anyone else have a vps hosting service they'd recommend?
[15:20] <linux_user> aws is good!
[15:20] <linux_user> so is nutanix
[15:20] <theprasad> is it i can do this with ssh new installation 16.04 kll
[15:20] <deadbit> nice thanks for the recommendation.
[15:20] <theprasad> my server is other place located
[15:21] <linux_user> aws even has 'free servers' you can play with and test with
[15:21] <linux_user> I also know there are openstack places too now
[15:21] <linux_user> even places that run Ubuntu Cloud
[15:21] <deadbit> nice
[15:21] <linux_user> I think AWS has that too
[15:21] <linux_user> not sure
[15:21] <linux_user> we use CentOS on aws
[15:22] <deadbit> ah ok
[15:22] <linux_user> (we = my client, not I)
[15:22] <deadbit> well i don't wan to run ovh - and i'm trying to see what you guys recommend
[15:22] <linux_user> I just work on their servers hosted on there remotely via ssh
[15:22] <deadbit> so i can make a decision if it'll have to be debian(ubuntu) or RH(centos)
[15:22] <linux_user> ovh?
[15:23] <linux_user> there is a big difference between debian and ubuntu, all you have to do to realize the difference is just try to install debian on a PC, you will grow grey hairs, but don't worry, before you will have a chance to tear out the gray hairs too!
[15:23] <deadbit> it's a hosting service
[15:23] <linux_user> But, everyime I have used a Debian system that was already installed I liked it
[15:23] <Scoop7> Hey, spelling check in 16.04 LTS for other languages. How to apply it in LibreOffice ?
[15:24] <linux_user> just they are SOO over the top about open source-ness it gets installed absent any usable drivers and so its a real pain if you get to that point
[15:24] <linux_user> debian I mean
[15:24] <DrGrov> Hello. I am trying to figure out how to set up my new HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 on Kubuntu 14.04 LTS. I have it connected wirelessly on a laptop but I use a Ethernet connection.
[15:25] <tatertots> DrGrov: use hp-lip
[15:25] <DrGrov> tatertots: Do I need to use it with a USB cable or can the router itself manage it via Ethernet, not wireless?
[15:26] <DrGrov> tatertots: I just wondered before I start doing something, have a shortage of time to do anything major.
[15:26] <tatertots> DrGrov: print a printer network settings page using the buttons on the printer so you can know it's ip address,
[15:26] <noc_> Scoop7, enable from menu menu >> Options after installing per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice#Language_localization.2C_spell_checking.2C_dictionary.2C_hyphenation.2C_thesaurus.2C_and_help
[15:26] <DrGrov> tatertots: Ah okay, now I see what you mean :)
[15:27] <k1l_> theprasad: you can try to upgrade to 16.04 per ssh, yes. but since your server is already messed i dont know if that works. so make sure to have a backup. most hosters support a recovery  or a installation system
[15:27] <noc_> Scoop7, menu is Tools >> Options
[15:27] <DrGrov> tatertots: So I just need the internal IP from the router that it uses? That I can get from the router settings menu itsellf as well.
[15:27] <tatertots> DrGrov: i never spoke the word "router"
[15:27] <tatertots> DrGrov: i said know the ip of the printer
[15:27] <DrGrov> tatertots: Ok.
[15:28] <DrGrov> tatertots: But I am saying that I can get the assigned IP for the printer via my router settings and/or the printer.
[15:28] <tatertots> DrGrov: cool
[15:28] <DrGrov> tatertots: But nevermind, your version is better and more safe :)
[15:29] <DrGrov> tatertots: So I only need to install hp-lip. Roger that. And it is just almost as plug-and-play doing then?
[15:30] <tatertots> DrGrov: don't do anything until you've scheduled a block of time to do it
[15:30] <DrGrov> tatertots: But there is no terminal thing involved in this whole procedure, correct?
[15:30] <elohim34> tatertots: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
[15:31] <DrGrov> elohim34: Thank you for the link :)
[15:32] <elohim34> DrGrov: welcome
[15:33] <DrGrov> tatertots: Okay, now I see the amount of hard work it requires :)
[15:33] <DrGrov> tatertots: Probably better to completely skip this step and just have it working as ePrint and mail the needed documents over and get them or use the better half's Win10 machine to print.
[15:35]  * linux_user says: I found this program 'clock' in Ubuntu GNOME (very nice, allows multiple time zones and such), is it possible to somehow use it as a screensaver???
[15:35]  * linux_user says: gnome-clocks to be precise
[15:36] <DrGrov> I got it found already as a network printer with correct IP and everything in KDE.
[15:36] <DrGrov> Fantastic, now just to get it figured out how to get it printing
[15:36] <hateball> as long as you have hplip, and the printer is supported, there's minimal effort involved
[15:37] <hateball> at times the printer gui will pick the wrong driver (ppd) by default, but you can always change that
[15:38] <DrGrov> hateball: Is hplip difficult then? The good thing is that at least it found it as a network printer already with correct internal IP.
[15:38] <DrGrov> hateball: But I can download the correct ppd for my printer and install it manually?
[15:39] <tatertots> DrGrov: a correct ip means you can and have ping'd it and can confirm connectivity.
[15:40] <Southern_Gentlem> DrGrov, the time you have spent in here talking about it, you could be done
[15:40] <DrGrov> tatertots: Ok, that is good. The device is not though exactly the same on the list of drivers in the "Add a New Printer" in KDE. But it is an OfficeJet Pro 8600 series.
[15:40] <tatertots> DrGrov: can you in fact confirm there is connectivity? or are you working off of "assumptions"
[15:40] <DrGrov> Southern_Gentlem: Ok, fine. Thank you.
[15:41] <DrGrov> Well, I will be damned. I will then fix it completely by myself. Thank you to those who helped, you know who you are.
[15:41] <hateball> DrGrov: so you have an 8600 series driver to choose from then? and you have a 86xx printer?
[15:42] <elohim34> DrGrov: check launchpad for binary packages HPLIB https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip
[15:42] <DrGrov> hateball: That is correct. I have an 8610 and the options seems to be a 8600 series.
[15:42] <DrGrov> elohim34: Thank you.
[15:43] <linux_user> Does anyone here have a pretty deep understanding of hexchat?
[15:43] <hateball> DrGrov: by default you have hplip installed if you use any of the -desktop packages
[15:43] <tatertots> DrGrov: you were advised to use hplip, never were you instructed to use "add a new printer".....but i digress, good luck and have a great day :)
[15:43] <nicomachus> linux_user: #hexchat does
[15:43] <hateball> DrGrov: and with that, the drivers needed
[15:44] <nicomachus> does anyone know where the source files for icon and gtk themes are located?
[15:44] <hateball> DrGrov, tatertots fwiw I only ever use the add printer gui and it's fine, you just sometimes gotta prod it to pick the correct ppd is all
[15:44] <DrGrov> tatertots: Yes, I will consider hplip as a binary if my other options are not fruitful. Thank you and you also have a great day
[15:44] <nicomachus> I don't have ~/.icons or ~/.themes in my home folder.
[15:45] <Southern_Gentlem> ~/.config?
[15:45] <tatertots> using hplip is a tad more involved than just saying "yeah i'm using hplip, because i installed the package"
[15:45] <hateball> depends if you want scanning and such
[15:46] <DrGrov> tatertots: Nice attitude you got there. I hope that gives something in life.
[15:46] <nicomachus> nvm, found them.
[15:46] <nicomachus>  /usr/share/icons
[15:47] <tatertots> DrGrov: nothing you wouldn't read in the documentation
[15:47] <masterkorp> hello everyone
[15:47] <bodhi> hey guys!
[15:47] <DrGrov> hateball: Yes, I have it figured out as an OfficeJet Pro 8600 and will use that and tweak a bit more until it is figured out. Not printing anyway that much, mainly using a other options and seldomly using the printer. Just got rid of about 120+ kilos of paper
[15:47] <linux_user> nicomachus: thank you sir!
[15:48] <linux_user> be right back
[15:48] <DrGrov> tatertots: Fine, have it your way and thanks for the help
[15:48] <bodhi> I`m brazilian and i`m a user of Bohdi Linux!
[15:48] <nicomachus> hmmm... nvm, looks like the folders in /usr/share/icons are all full of symlinks
[15:48] <k1l_> !bodhi | bodhi
[15:49] <masterkorp> When is the openssl 1.0.2k be available for ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[15:49] <k1l_> bodhi: their support channel is #bodhilinux
[15:50] <k1l_> masterkorp: ubuntu doesnt update the version. it only compiales again with the new patches included.
[15:50] <k1l_> masterkorp: is there a reason you ask that?
[15:51] <DrGrov> Well well
[15:51] <DrGrov> I will be damned!
[15:51] <DrGrov> That worked out without needing to have anything to do with hplip
[15:51] <masterkorp> k1l_: well, i'd like to keep your openssl version on the most up to date version
[15:52] <DrGrov> Gives out the full color levels correctly, can use duplexer, can have high quality greyscale. That is how it should be working.
[15:52] <k1l_> masterkorp: as i said, the version number doesnt tell you what is inside
[15:53] <masterkorp> k1l_: is there a external repository that would help me upgrade to 1.0.2k version ?
[15:54] <masterkorp> k1l_: so, how do I tell? That worries me a bit, i need to know for which vulnerabilities I have patched
[15:54] <DrGrov> tatertots: hateball Thank you for the kind help :) Have a great day!
[15:54] <k1l_> masterkorp: what vulnerabilities are we talking about? can you give the CVEs?
[15:55] <k1l_> masterkorp: ubuntu got a security team that backports the patches to the versions in the ubuntu repos. see the cve tracker on ubuntu.com/usn
[15:56] <k1l_> masterkorp: keep in mind that plain new version can make old configs or working setups not work anymore. that is why ubuntu backports the patches
[15:56] <masterkorp> k1l_: https://www.openssl.org/news/openssl-1.0.2-notes.html
[15:56] <masterkorp> k1l_: ok, so how do I now which patched are backported?
[15:57] <masterkorp> I would like to know which patches are fixed or, and if its worth changing?
[15:57] <k1l_> masterkorp: look at the cve tracker. if there is no cve, there is no issue
[15:59] <hateball> DrGrov: good that it's working. usually best to just try stuff, fix them after if needed. more often than not things just work :)
[16:00] <DrGrov> hateball: Just a bit of a hassle on some huge PDF's though it seems.
[16:01] <masterkorp> k1l_: thing is, there are a lot of cves that are closed, I've been using the ubuntu USN as reference. But as I said, better safe than sorry
[16:02] <noc_> masterkorp, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openssl >>> then check the Ubuntu Changelog at right
[16:04] <masterkorp> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.21/changelog
[16:04] <masterkorp> noc_: this?
[16:04] <masterkorp> last update has been 23 September :(
[16:04] <nicomachus> man, they really don't make these icon and theme folders easy to navigate.
[16:06] <ppf> masterkorp: openssl 1.0.1 is eol as of now
[16:06] <ppf> so there won't be any big updates there
[16:07] <noc_> shouldn't it still receive security fixes, being in trusty's main repo, regardless of being alive upstream?
[16:07] <ppf> yes it does
[16:08] <IhrFussel> Is there a way to kill ALL but one bash process? I have several scripts and when a certain event occurs I need to terminate all scripts except one
[16:08] <k1l_> ppf: noc_ yes, the security team backports the patches when the upstream publishes the patches
[16:09] <ppf> which they won't for 1.0.1, i'm assuming
[16:09] <ppf> emphasis on the assume part
[16:09] <k1l_> ppf: why not?
[16:09] <noc_> but my point is this should not depend on upstream, since it's still in a supported release of ubunut
[16:10] <k1l_> ppf: the security team manages the LTS support for kernels that are not LTS kernels upstream. that is the idea behind canonical paying that security team.
[16:10] <ppf> k1l_: i actually meant upstream
[16:15] <hateball> IhrFussel: well killall supports regex, so perhaps it could be done that way
[16:17] <IhrFussel> hateball, the problem is that killall only looks for the processname it seems and not for the name of the script...I need something that can exclusively kill "bash somescript.sh" by name
[16:18] <noc_> how do you determine the one to be left alive, is it at random or by means of some identifier?
[16:19] <IhrFussel> noc_, no not random...they all have certain names and will not be renamed
[16:19] <noc_> can you provide an example with real names?
[16:19] <IhrFussel> They look like this "mtfc.sh" "mtos.sh" "mtbm.sh"
[16:21] <hateball> IhrFussel: could you use ps|grep + awk ?
[16:21] <noc_> I'm thinking about pidof bash  +  cat /proc/$pid/cmdline
[16:21] <hanshenrik> IhrFussel, <?php foreach(glob('/proc') as $dir){$cmdline=file_get_contents($dir.'/'.cmdline);if(false!==strpos($cmdline,'somescript.sh'){$pid=(int)strrev(substr($dir,0,-1));system("kill ".$pid);}}
[16:22] <ppf> why not just killall -r
[16:22] <Arpit97> i am receiving error on there website
[16:22] <hanshenrik> err, ($dir.'/cmdline')
[16:22] <noc_> besides, if they're bash, they don't want .sh extension, they're fine without an extension at all
[16:23] <Arpit97> i don't want to purchase there test case
[16:25] <LordNelthon> hi, is there anyway to redirect the apt-get install oracle-java7-installer to a file? since the packages executes a script while installing it shows in the terminal that script output
[16:26] <hanshenrik> LordNelthon, man tee
[16:26] <k1l_> LordNelthon: use dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[16:26] <hanshenrik>  apt-get -y install oracle-java7-installer | tee foo.txt
[16:27] <noc_> apt-get install whatever   > out.log 2>&1
[16:27] <noc_> the 2>&1 makes sure error messages go into the log as well
[16:27] <ppf> tee is non-standard. noc_ + 1
[16:27] <k1l_> LordNelthon: ah sorry. seems i misunderstand your issue
[16:27] <hanshenrik> oh right, if you DONT want it in the terminal at all, use >  ofc
[16:27] <noc_> well tee will work fine, just put the 2>&1 before the pipe ppf
[16:28] <ppf> noc_: i know, i'm just saying it's non-posix-standardized
[16:28] <LordNelthon> but it does not work. apt output goes to the file, but the script that it runs from the package shows anyway (using the normal redirects)
[16:28] <LordNelthon> seeing tee right now
[16:28] <hanshenrik> ppf, and when people ask you for a text editor, you recommend `ed` right?
[16:28] <ppf> hanshenrik: nah, i'm team vim
[16:29] <hanshenrik> :O  vim is nonstandard!
[16:29] <hanshenrik> posix doesn't say anything about vim!
[16:29] <hanshenrik> but ed, OTOH
[16:29] <Southern_Gentlem> vim
[16:29] <ppf> :)
[16:29] <Southern_Gentlem> vim is the standard on all unix/linux boxes
[16:29] <Southern_Gentlem> vi/vim
[16:30] <IhrFussel> I have all those installed yes but it would be nice to see the awk code...I know how to use ps and grep for a certain line but don't know how to extract the PID of it
[16:30] <ppf> LordNelthon: did you use 2> as well?
[16:31] <ppf> IhrFussel: pgrep -f
[16:31] <LordNelthon> ppf: yes, and does not work either
[16:32] <ppf> LordNelthon: before the | (if using tee)
[16:32] <IhrFussel> ppf, Is it just awk '{print $[column]}' after grepping the line with the script name ?
[16:32] <hateball> IhrFussel: if you wanna use awk, something like "ps aux|awk '{print $2}'" but you'll want to grep your script also
[16:32] <ppf> IhrFussel: i don't know awk, to be honest
[16:32] <ppf> IhrFussel: just pgrep -f <regex>
[16:33] <ppf> lists all the pids
[16:33] <IhrFussel> hateball, well I'd just get the PID with awk and kill that one
[16:33] <alicezw_> join #fsf-licensing
[16:35] <IhrFussel> ppf, WOW that command is nice...I can just pgrep -f "mtfc.sh" and it lists the PIDs...but how to kill them after?
[16:35] <ppf> | xargs kill
[16:35] <DrGrov> hateball: Now it worked, it was just a slow starter :) Thank you the kind help :)
[16:36] <IhrFussel> xargs accepts lists of PIDs? I never knew that
[16:36] <PunkUnity420> i NEED HELP
[16:36] <PunkUnity420> been googling for hours
[16:36] <PunkUnity420> https://zerobin.net/?907499f9229b7480#FKzEA2j03GmWRe7Iog0lvWrhy2Bzmy8vS/1lWRbzaXQ=
[16:36] <ppf> IhrFussel: xargs forwards stdin as arguments to the following command
[16:37] <IhrFussel> ppf, will it also work when there are 2 matches?
[16:37] <LordNelthon> ppf: "sudo apt-get install -y oracle-java7-installer 2>&1 | tee -a file" still shows the output
[16:37] <PunkUnity420> I upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10
[16:37] <PunkUnity420> https://zerobin.net/?907499f9229b7480#FKzEA2j03GmWRe7Iog0lvWrhy2Bzmy8vS/1lWRbzaXQ=
[16:37] <ppf> LordNelthon: yes, that's kinda what tee does
[16:37] <PunkUnity420> please mention my name to get my attention if anyone has a solution
[16:38] <PunkUnity420> i cannot reinstall the OS
[16:38] <ppf> IhrFussel: all stdin goes into the argument list to the command, in this case kill
[16:38] <ppf> so the question is will kill work if there are two pids?
[16:38] <ppf> yes it will
[16:38] <dimaj> hey guys, i was wondering if someone could help me with NFS setup on Ubuntu servers. when i mount a share, I can write as root, but not as user (permission denied). server has permissions 775 and i am exporting it as: 'sync,insecure,no_subtree_check,rw,nohide,anonuid=1001,anongid=1001'
[16:40] <LordNelthon> ppf: I want that output to a file not the terminal, even without tee (with >> file) it shows in the terminal :/
[16:40] <ppf> LordNelthon: then don't use tee
[16:41] <ppf> see noc_'s suggestion
[16:42] <whothehellami> Hi, I need some regex help: I have a file with connections. I am using "^(?!(A|B) , C).+\n" to get all connections with neither A nor B as source and C as destination. But I also want to get connections without C as source but with A or B as dst.
[16:44] <whothehellami> with other words. I need all connections (A|B)->C or C->(A|B). I want to do a regex search to remove all the other connections
[16:45] <noc_> whothehellami, /join #regex
[16:46] <ghostlight> does anyone have any good guides or recos for setting up iptables over network mgr?
[16:46] <whothehellami> noc_, ok. didnt know that there is a regex channel
[16:46] <ghostlight> im particularly interested in routing most of my traffic over VPN but not always
[16:47] <noc_> PunkUnity420, "files list for package ... missing" suggests problems under /var/lib/dpkg/info
[16:47] <noc_> freenode has channels for everything
[16:48] <hateball> !alis| whothehellami
[16:56] <PunkUnity420> annyone help me?
[16:56] <PunkUnity420> @noc
[16:56] <Pici> PunkUnity420: how did you upgrade?
[16:56] <PunkUnity420> noc_: how do i fix that?
[16:56] <PunkUnity420> do release upgrade -d
[16:56] <PunkUnity420> Pici:
[16:57] <PunkUnity420> i dont think i have that file /var/lib/dpkg/info
[16:57] <gio_>  volo
[16:57] <nacc> PunkUnity420: it's a directory not a file
[16:58] <noc_> PunkUnity420, right, that's the problem. Everything started after tinkering with the package management?
[16:58] <nacc> PunkUnity420: and if that directory is empty, something rather serious is wrong
[16:59] <PunkUnity420> well its empty now for sure
[16:59] <PunkUnity420> i need to just fix this crap lol. ridiculous
[16:59] <PunkUnity420> pretty sure every time i hacve upgraded ubuntu, something liek this happens
[16:59] <PunkUnity420> since 6.04
[17:02] <Teemo> yeah I just don't upgrade for that reason. take a full backup and do a nice clean install, then copy the /home directory back (which restores all program settings and user files)
[17:02] <Teemo> all you need to do after that is install packages really
[17:02] <noc_> PunkUnity420, I assume you upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04? have you already reported the bug to the developers?
[17:02] <PunkUnity420> no
[17:02] <PunkUnity420> i clean installed 16.04 about a year ago maybe less
[17:02] <PunkUnity420> then, last night i did, do release upgrade -d
[17:03] <PunkUnity420> FAILURE
[17:03] <PunkUnity420> might hop off ubuntu for a bit then. kinda bummed
[17:03] <PunkUnity420> should be an easy way to go back to stock
[17:03] <noc_> so you wanted 16.10? it's a development release. 14.04, 16.04 are long-term supported releases...
[17:04] <Pici> btw, you shouldn't use -d, that is intended for moving to the development release.
[17:04] <PunkUnity420> --purge upgrade
[17:04] <PunkUnity420> --reset ubuntu to factory settings
[17:04] <Pici> noc_: 16.10 isn't a dev release.
[17:04] <PunkUnity420> i know
[17:04] <noc_> Pici, I thought so. what is a dev release then?
[17:04] <nacc> iiuc, -d would have moved you to 17.04
[17:04] <Pici> noc_: 17.04 is the current in-development release. 16.10 is just a regular non-LTS release.
[17:05] <PunkUnity420> im on yakkety
[17:05] <PunkUnity420> i used -d
[17:05] <PunkUnity420> PERIOD
[17:05] <nacc> noc_: there are no 'development' releases in that sense -- there are LTS and non-LTS and an active (*in* development)
[17:05] <lol768> Now I can no longer type. I've tried hitting enter and escape to no avail.
[17:05] <nacc> noc_: where 'active' might be either LTS or non-LTS (once it releases)
[17:06] <lol768> (I accidentally pressed ctrl shift u to do Unicode input)
[17:07] <nacc> PunkUnity420: easiest way to 'go back to stock' is to reinstall.
[17:08] <noc_> ah, thanks
[17:08] <johan`> Hi, Im stuck in a terminal (graphical bugs) and I wanna restart without having to press the power button. How do I restart from the terminal?
[17:08] <johan`> (I did ctrlaltFx to get to here)
[17:09] <lol768> ah, I fixed it
[17:09] <genii> johan`: sudo reboot
[17:13] <jorlin> Trying to to restore unity-greeter after having installed kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu (from a ubuntu 16.04.1 install)
[17:13] <jorlin> Now I get the Lubuntu greeter instead
[17:14] <ghostlight> does anyone have any good guides or recos for setting up iptables over network mgr?
[17:19] <super_nugget> hey guys...=)
[17:19] <super_nugget> i have a problem..can anyone help?
[17:19] <jorlin> Just ask your question
[17:20] <super_nugget> trying to dual boot..however, but the bootloader wont start..
[17:20] <super_nugget> details:
[17:20] <super_nugget> 1. previously had linux backbox and linux mint. adn then deleted those partitions to install kali linux
[17:21] <super_nugget> 2. kali didnt start up..so tried to install ubuntu as well..didnt boot too..
[17:22] <jorlin> super_nugget, did you install grub when installing Kali Linux?
[17:22] <super_nugget> 3. tried installing boot-repair disk but it couldnt solve the issue..the system just directly booted into Windows..
[17:22] <super_nugget> jorlin: yes i did =)
[17:23] <super_nugget> i installed it to the harddisk /dev/sdaX not /dev/sdaXY
[17:23] <jorlin> super_nugget, are you on an (U)EFI system?
[17:24] <super_nugget> jorlin: yes i am..
[17:24] <super_nugget> tried booting from "CSM" mode in BIOS as well..thinking it may have a difference..but none..
[17:25] <super_nugget> the system hidden volume's \EFI folder has no new additions whatsoever..
[17:25] <jorlin> super_nugget, try creating a bootable USB-stick, formatted as gpt and try to repair boot mgr from there. It should install itself in the ESP (EFI Startup Partition) instead of the root of your /dev/sda
[17:25] <super_nugget> checked it from cmd prompt in Admin mode
[17:27] <super_nugget> owh okay....interesting..how do i format the stick gpt if i may ask...?
[17:27] <super_nugget> i dont understand that part
[17:27] <super_nugget> is it like the fat32 fs?
[17:28] <nacc> super_nugget: gpt is a partition table format (the other typical one is msdos)
[17:28] <jorlin> super_nugget, you can grab a USB-stick of 4GB minimum and back-up any useful data that is on it. After that, simply dd the iso image to the stick and start the stick from your EFI boot menu
[17:28] <frib> all of a sudden my firefox doesn't work.  what can I do?
[17:28] <super_nugget> nacc got you..looking it up now..=)
[17:30] <jorlin> super_nugget, most live-ISO's are setup as dual-mode (MBR/ EFI type). I don't know if that's the case with the Kali ISO, but the Ubuntu Live-ISO should work fine.
[17:31] <super_nugget> jorlin: alright man..and then install it the iso as usual...when prompted for directory of bootloader what should i put...?
[17:31] <tatertots> super_nugget: did you retain the boot-repair log file?
[17:32] <super_nugget> tatertots: sry man, no i didnt..cuz it said everything was repaired succesfully..
[17:32] <super_nugget> so i just rebooted up
[17:32] <tatertots> super_nugget: did you retain the boot-repair log file?, i know %99.99 likely you did NOT, but just want to hear you confirm that you didn't keep the repair log,
[17:33] <super_nugget> tatertots: yeah..haha..
[17:33] <frib> firefox all of a sudden stopped loading pages.  tried reinstalling to no avail.  please help!
[17:33] <tatertots> super_nugget: can you open terminal?
[17:34] <jorlin> super_nugget, gotta logout and in again out to check something for my father. Maybe later. I hope you will be able to solve the issue you are having...
[17:34] <super_nugget> jorlin: thanks a lot bro..see ya..
[17:34] <super_nugget> tatertots: ermm im in the windows machine rn..
[17:35] <super_nugget> but i could boot up from a live ubuntu if ud like..
[17:35] <super_nugget> or kali
[17:35] <tatertots> super_nugget: do you still have the boot-repair usb key or cdrom?
[17:36] <super_nugget> tatertots: i have the iso..i could set up the stick in a few..could you hold on?
[17:37] <tatertots> super_nugget: sure, the objective is to retain the boot-repair log and show it here
[17:38] <super_nugget> tatertots: got you..prepareing it rn..
[17:38] <super_nugget> tatertots: got you..preparing it rn..
[17:40] <super_nugget> tatertots: gimme about 10-15mins il boot-up into the iso..get the log and repost it here..thanks for ur help man..been cracking my head over this for few hours now..
[17:41] <super_nugget> *bootup into the boot-repair disk
[17:53] <super_nugget> tatertots: you there man..?
[17:54] <tatertots> super_nugget: yeah
[17:55] <arooni> for ubuntu 16.04; is there a better option than gnome-do ?  it seems pretty buggy and crashes often.  looking for a stable, alfred like replacement
[17:55] <super_nugget> tatertots: hey =)
[17:56] <super_nugget> tatertots: got the log file?
[17:56] <tatertots> super_nugget:  => Windows 7/8/2012 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.
[17:56] <tatertots>  => Syslinux MBR (4.04 and higher) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.
[17:57] <super_nugget> ermm..i didnt get you...
[17:57] <Guest60998> hi, i'm trying to install the latest vlc version as per the guide at the end of this comment. i added the ppa, updated ,then used apt-get. i'm getting a conflict where apt is trying to install the ubuntu-repository version of vlc-nox rather than the new ppa's version. running ubuntu 16.10. how can i install vlc 3.0? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/install-vlc-3-0-ubuntu
[17:57] <super_nugget> so i should install to /dev/sdb next time?
[17:57] <tatertots> super_nugget: the highest priority MBR that is seen first by the computer is on /dev/sda, you might know it as the 750gB
[17:57] <super_nugget> but /dev/sdb was the stick itself...
[17:58] <super_nugget> yes true..
[17:58] <tatertots> super_nugget: the highest priority MBR that is seen first by the computer is on /dev/sda, you might know it as the 750gB so it is expected that you would boot into windows
[17:58] <linux_user> I installed ubuntu GNOME and then the three ubuntustudio meta packages for audio and jackd does not start up gives some barrage of errors telling me a file is missing but no filename!?! where can I get help with this? whence I fired up qjackctl (before even clicking 'start') I got all this: http://pastebin.com/mstEHEUw
[18:00] <super_nugget> tatertots:didnt know there was a highest priority mbr..what is it?
[18:01] <super_nugget> so even if i install the bootloader in /dev/sda it still wouldn't be read by the boot manager as a secondary bootloader entry?
[18:03] <jorlin> Can anyone with plain ubuntu 16.04.1 please pastebin their greeter startup script in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/ ? My original one got overwritten by installing lubuntu on top of an existing ubuntu install...
[18:03] <DarkHorse1> how i can do something like if i open a image a music will play. sorry for english
[18:03] <tatertots> super_nugget: did you create empty space to install linux prior to your installation attempt? yes or no
[18:03] <DarkHorse1> how i can do something like if i open a image a music will play. sorry for english
[18:04] <super_nugget> tatertots: yes
[18:04] <Lorcatar> Like a thumbnail for a mp3 file DarkHorse1?
[18:04] <linux_user> DarkHorse1, I am not an expert but I think an mp4 can have audio with a still image
[18:04] <jorlin> Darkhorse, you want to play an ISO image containing CDA-formatted music?
[18:05] <Lorcatar> Can you browse the ubuntu software center offline? Not to download but just to browse the metadata?
[18:05] <jorlin> CDA as in CD Audio format/ a.k.a RedBook ?
[18:05] <DarkHorse1> thanks  but i want something that music is hidden behind the image or user will able to see only image file
[18:05] <linux_user> I think you want an mp4 DarkHorse1
[18:06] <timyp> http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/11/this-fun-new-app-lets-you-embed-music-and-sound-clips-into-your-photos-exclusive/
[18:06] <raphaelsc> hi
[18:06] <linux_user> I installed ubuntu GNOME and then the three ubuntustudio meta packages for audio and jackd does not start up gives some barrage of errors telling me a file is missing but no filename!?! where can I get help with this? whence I fired up qjackctl (before even clicking 'start') I got all this: http://pastebin.com/mstEHEUw
[18:08] <jorlin> linux_user, it looks like the process you are trying to start expects a running jackd daemon, but that daemon is not started, though it is detected as being "available"
[18:08] <DarkHorse1> i want to combine a script with photo so if i click on photo script will run
[18:09] <tatertots> super_nugget: boot the installation media
[18:09] <linux_user> oh
[18:09] <linux_user> let me check that then, jackd is a service I must start?
[18:10] <jorlin> linux_user, probably, yes. I'm no expert on jackd though, it may need parameters
[18:11] <DarkHorse1> i want to combine a script with photo so if i click on photo script will run
[18:11] <linux_user> but that 'start' button on qjackctl isnt that to start jackd?
[18:11] <jorlin> such as an ALSA_sink for input or output, but that is a long time ago for me. Probably 5 years or so, so I'm doubtful if that principle is still valid.
[18:11] <linux_user> A WHAT?
[18:11] <DarkHorse1> i want to combine a script with photo so if i click on photo script will run how i can do that
[18:12] <linux_user> DarkHorse1: that is different, now that you said 'script'!!
[18:12] <super_nugget> tatertots: could we pm..?=)
[18:12] <linux_user> a script to start audio playing in the background with '&' while displaying a photo is easy to do
[18:13] <jorlin> linux_user, last time I used Jack, I had to define ALSA sinks for Jack to connect to as IN/ OUTputs
[18:13] <linux_user> Yeah well the UbuntuStudio groups are frigging useless
[18:13] <linux_user> and that can cause jackd to not start up you mean?
[18:13] <linux_user> or to be broken as it is?
[18:13] <linux_user> I think trying to uninstall XFCE and put GNOME onto UBUNTU STUDIO will be easier
[18:14] <jorlin> linux_user, hey, hey, have some respect... Those guys created an awesome multimedia environment.
[18:14] <linux_user> wait a second
[18:14] <linux_user> if Install the packages and they don't start, where I am wrong to say something is not working or broken?
[18:14] <therayox> hi
[18:14] <linux_user> if you install software that is supposed to be fully configured and its not, and there are no instructions
[18:14] <linux_user> give me a break
[18:15] <therayox> hi
[18:15] <jorlin> linux_user, did you install the complete Desktop Environment on top of an existing Ubuntu install?
[18:15] <DarkHorse1> oh i m sorry basically friend of mine didn't told me
[18:16] <therayox> ok
[18:16] <jorlin> linux, did you try running it in a VM, or as a Live ISO to check if your hardware plays nice with the distro?
[18:16] <jorlin> linux_user, , did you try running it in a VM, or as a Live ISO to check if your hardware plays nice with the distro?
[18:17] <jorlin> linux, did you disable Pulseaudio first before starting the app that required Jack?
[18:19] <jorlin> Darkhorse, you could create a desktop launcher having a certain icon associated with it that resembles the photo. Would that be something in the right direction?
[18:19] <EmberCrest> Noob here, back again. I undershot the amount of space I'd need for Ubuntu. Got 20gb unallocated free space, so how do I extend my 10gb ubuntu partition to 30gb?
[18:19] <Guest60998> Guest
[18:20] <tatertots> super_nugget: sure did you boot the install media
[18:20] <EmberCrest> The unallocated space and the main disk are next to each other, respectfully.
[18:20] <DarkHorse1> yesh jorlin
[18:20] <DarkHorse1> *yes
[18:21] <jorlin> EmberCrest, first of all, backup all your personal data, if any, than start a Live ISO, and grow the partition in gparted.
[18:21] <EmberCrest> Sigh ok. Ill just have to wait until i get home if I gotta start a live ISO..
[18:22] <EmberCrest> I got Windows on the other half of my disk, if there's a gparted equivelant?
[18:24] <jorlin> EmberCrest, yes, that would be Disk Manager, but is is quite dangerous to mess with that on a mounted Disk Volume, if it even lets you do that. However that is outside the scope of this channel. You might have better luck in ##windows
[18:25] <EmberCrest> jorlin: Can I not just unmount the ubuntu volume?
[18:25] <rajivmars> i have just installed ubuntumate 16.04. but i can't see the plumouth logo during the boot. how do i get my plumouth screen logo back?
[18:26] <jorlin> EmberCrest, yes, but only if you are running a Live ISO environment.
[18:26] <EmberCrest> jorlin: So I can't unmount the partition from Windows, basically
[18:28] <jorlin> EmberCrest, sure you can, but I would not trust Disk Manager to resize a Linux File System.
[18:28] <jorlin> As always, if you want to experiment, make a BACKUP first of anything that is remotely important to you.
[18:29] <EmberCrest> jorlin: mhm, agreed. I'll take care.
[18:29] <rajivmars> anybody plz answer.
[18:30] <jorlin> !patience | rajivmars
[18:31] <rajivmars> ok. thats fine:)
[18:33] <jorlin> EmberCrest, I woiuld resize a Linux partition from within a Live ISO, there is a way to create a Windows Live DVD, I believe it was called Windows PE or something, if you need to resize an NTFS volume. But that is outside the scope of #ubuntu
[18:33] <jorlin> EmberCrest, wouild => would
[18:35] <jorlin> rajivmars, actually, I'm trying to achieve something similar myself. When installing one complete *buntu desktop over another, the last installed desktop seems to overwrite defaults of the previous system when it comes to appearance.
[18:36] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem in bash that is quite puzzling to me. I tried to create three different "ls"-aliases. "ls" for showing all files, "lsv" for showing only visble files and "lsi" for only showing invisible files. "ls" and "lsi" works as intended but "lsv" still shows all files. It does work hoewever when I alias it to "/bin/ls" instead of just "ls". Does that make sense to anybody?
[18:36] <energizer> If I run a command like sudo service mongod start, which user is going to be running the mongod process?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> jorlin, each desktop comes with it's own default theme instaled
[18:36] <rajivmars> jorlin, ok. then what to do know?
[18:37] <jorlin> BluesKaj, so I have noticed, but is their a way to restore the original theme (boot, greeter and all?)
[18:37] <jorlin> their -> there
[18:37] <lakshay> yoo
[18:38] <energizer> I have ubuntu 14.04, I don't understand how services work, where can I read about them?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> which original theme etc, jorlin?
[18:38] <lakshay> i have 16.04
[18:39] <jorlin> BluesKaj, I started out with plain Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, but I installed kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu over it. It seems that the Xubuntu theme has won for now ...:-)
[18:40] <BluesKaj> wow
[18:40] <jorlin> BluesKaj, since that is the title of the "boot" screen I see now, along with the diamond theme of the lightdm greeter.
[18:42] <jorlin> BluesKaj, I wanted to show my father the different desktop environments in their most complete form, so that he can choose for himself, which DE has his fancy.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> jorlin, I stay with KDE/Plasma...the others aren't my style at all
[18:42] <genii> jorlin: If you have multiple dm installed, just use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ..with the name of one you have. Like: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[18:43] <Lorcatar> XFCE is the best looking but setting caps to control is a pain
[18:43] <Lorcatar> Or other customizations
[18:43] <jorlin> BluesKaj, I tend to switch between LXDE, Unity and awesome, depending on what task I have at hand.
[18:43] <Lorcatar> I mean LXDE is the best looking etc etc
[18:44] <lakshay> any one up?
[18:45] <jorlin> Lorcatar, Have you tried Enlightment? If you want full customisation, that one is a solid choice.
[18:45] <BluesKaj> desktop environments are a matter of taste and look/prefernce
[18:45] <Lorcatar> jorlin: I've noticed it was very pretty looking. I haven't tried it but you mentioning it makes me want to try it.
[18:46] <jorlin> BluesKaj, but do you perhaps know how to restore the standard Ubuntu experience, while retaining the choice between the different variants?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> afraid not jorlin
[18:47] <jorlin> BluesKaj, I spent far too much time on the nasty Telepathy bug with conflicting resources between the KDE and the Gnome versions. took me about an hour to resolve that... :-/
[18:48] <jorlin> BluesKaj, that bug is marked as Critical by the way...
[18:48] <BluesKaj> telepathy is old and buggy, neber used it anyway
[18:48] <BluesKaj> never
[18:49] <jorlin> BluesKaj, neither have I, but someone did not test if KDE and Gnome would conflict when testing the packages for Telepathy...
[18:50] <hateball> Well the problem in this case isnt so much about using it as actually being able to install kubuntu-desktop if you started with ubuntu-desktop
[18:50] <hateball> it's been broken for quite some time
[18:50] <eein-> how do you kick network manager into actually looking for wireless again after a hibernate?
[18:50] <jorlin> This results in an unusable state for apt and it is quite tricky to resolve that.
[18:51] <eein-> enabling and disabling networking and wifi does nothing. SSID from my previous location still show though they are no longer available
[18:52] <jorlin> hateball, I have eventually succeeded in doing so, but it was not a smooth ride. Reminded me of the dependency hell I went through when trying SlackWare. Granted, that is more than 10 years ago.
[18:53] <jorlin> eein, did you try an ifdown -> ifup combo (needs root privileges) ?
[18:54] <jorlin> rajivmars, to summarise my answer on your question: I would love to be able to resolve it, but I don't know how :-(
[18:55] <wilbert> join #debian
[18:55] <jorlin> on your question -> *to* your question (my, am I getting sloppy with my grammar here :-S )
[18:56] <rek> hi, can i install 4.10 live using the live cd morphix? What is the last ubuntu release i can use to use Qt Qt-2.3.0  ?
[18:56] <jorlin> wilbert, who are you addressing, please?
[18:57] <nacc> rek: i can't think of a reason why you would want to use 4.10. It's so old and fully unsupported here.
[18:57] <wilbert> noone
[18:57] <wilbert> I was trying to type /join #debain
[18:57] <wilbert> and missed the /
[18:58] <jorlin> Ah, ok, that makes sense.
[18:59] <rek> nacc, this is the ubuntu channel :) do you want to know why i need qt-2.3.0 ?
[18:59] <nacc> rek: this is the ubuntu *support* channel
[18:59] <BluesKaj> wilbert, type it in the serber box
[18:59] <nacc> rek: and you can see clearly in the /topic which releases are supported
[18:59] <BluesKaj> server
[18:59] <adalbert> Anyone using X11vnc -ssl ?
[18:59] <rek> if there's a ubuntu-com-chat channel i'd be glad to be there
[19:00] <jorlin> I am called to dinner right now. See you soon. Thanks for the nice atmosphere :-)
[19:00] <nacc> !ot | rek: this is probably what you want, but I assume folks there will say the same thing.
[19:00] <rek> thanks nacc
[19:00] <jorlin> Have a nice (insert your time of day here) :-)
[19:02] <eein-> jorlin, I did it just says unknown interface and I don't see anyting in dmesg about it other than the normal link not ready
[19:10] <Aprel> Hi I downloaded and compiled (./configure make make install) the latest sources for gnupg, but my /usr/bin/gnupg still points to the repo version. What's the proper way of installing the new binary into the system?
[19:11] <Aprel> If it matters, I'm upgrading from the 1.x repo version to 2.x from sources
[19:12] <wilbert> Aprel: You probably need to specify where you want the gnupg binary to go using switches for ./configure
[19:12] <wilbert> Aprel: By default it will go to /usr/local/bin probably
[19:13] <wilbert> Aprel: And you need think hard before you stomp on the system install of that binary given that you may break software that depends on it
[19:15] <OerHeks> !info gnupg2
[19:16] <Aprel> wilbert: you're right; it's in /usr/local/bin. I'll leave the repo version in /usr/bin and call this one as necessary
[19:17] <Aprel> Problem now is it can't find the lib libgcrypt.so.20, even tho I see it in /usr/local/lib :/
[19:18] <Aprel> Did I likely screw up the configure? Is it looking for the lib in /usr/lib even tho the binary was installed to /usr/local/bin?
[19:18] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> hey
[19:18] <wilbert> Aprel: you can either specify a different path for .so's in configure
[19:19] <wilbert> or use linker options or environment variables to tell software to look in that directory on a case by case basis
[19:19] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> can you get the IRC client version or the OS version of some user using a command?
[19:20] <wilbert> /usr/ is for system required stuff
[19:20] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> for example, some people discovered my OS version and i can't see it on whois
[19:20] <wilbert> /usr/local is for stuff you compile yourself
[19:20] <wilbert> keeping them separate so you don't hose your system by replacing some requried version with an incompatible one
[19:23] <frenda> Youtube subtitles are odd!; They are in two lines and previous line is kept! they are in vtt format that sucks; Do you know any player that can follow vtt contents well?
[19:23] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> no? nobody? :(
[19:24] <frenda> I mean I want to watch downloaded subtitle+video from Ytube
[19:24] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: yes
[19:24] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: they can. Using something call Client-To-Client-Protocol
[19:24] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> tell me more
[19:24] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: You should really just google it and read about it
[19:24] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> wilbert: thank you ^^
[19:25] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: np
[19:25] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> wilbert: can i try it on you? :P
[19:25] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: go a head
[19:26] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> it works! ^^
[19:26] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> i can't see your OS version (and people can see mine) but i guess i'm on the right track
[19:27] <Aprel> wilbert: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib fixed the problem for a current session. Can I reconfigure and recompile the gnupg binary so it checks for that lib directory without the env variable?
[19:27] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: yep, I got my warning messages
[19:27] <wilbert> Aprel: recompiling won't do anything as its a shared library rather than a statically linked one
[19:28] <wilbert> Aprel: You could modify your shells .profile, .bashrc, whatever to automatically set that variable at startup
[19:28] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> wilbert: any info about when is OS version available or not?
[19:28] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: It will only tell you what I have the client configured to tell you
[19:28] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: Its not secret magic that reaches through the irc client and probes the OS
[19:29] <Aprel> wilbert: ok, that's a good idea. Thanks for all the help :)
[19:29] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> wilbert: then it was a irssi thing
[19:29] <Aprel> SaltyKawaiiNeko: nice nick, btw
[19:29] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: most likely
[19:29] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> wilbert: thank you very much ^^
[19:29] <zzombie> hello
[19:29] <wilbert> SaltyKawaiiNeko: np
[19:29] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> Aprel: ty <3
[19:40] <zenlambda> if i put a script in /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks, it should always be executed when i call update-initramfs -u right?
[19:44] <genii> zenlambda: Yes
[19:49] <zenlambda> genii: it seems update-initramfs is also reading /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks, is this normal and can it be prevented?
[19:50] <renn0xtk9> I am using rsync --delete  but still it does not seem to delete file from target directory
[19:57] <zenlambda> can i 'blacklist' a hook in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks ?
[19:59] <nacc> zenlambda: yes it's normal
[19:59] <nacc> zenlambda: those are the ones 'shipped' with the update-initramfs containing package (aiui)
[19:59] <nacc> zenlambda: /etc is for local system configuration
[19:59] <Airforce> heya all!
[20:00] <Airforce> how can i change my ident on psybnc .. it's my default is root@
[20:00] <Airforce> using ubuntu
[20:01] <Airforce> any help will be highly appreciated.
[20:03] <converge> is there a way to create multiple zip files but in separeted .zip files (not .z01, .z02, etc) ?
[20:04] <Airforce> converge I'm assuming you've zip installed already?
[20:04] <converge> Airforce: yes
[20:05] <nacc> converge: .z01, .z02 are specifically for split archives
[20:06] <nacc> converge: why does it matter what the extension is (and note that .zip is the final split archvie file, so you can't use that anyways)
[20:06] <converge> nacc: I need, I need to upload 400MB separeted in 100mb zip files, but it needs to be like first.zip, second.zip , I cant upload .z01, z02 files
[20:06] <converge> *I see
[20:08] <nacc> converge: you could rename them, but you have to rename them back to *exactly* the same format, afaict
[20:08] <nacc> s/format/name/
[20:08] <nacc> converge: as the order matters
[20:09] <converge> nacc: its for zoho mail, I dont have access to unzip it
[20:18] <nacc> converge: are you mailing these to yourself?
[20:18] <converge> nacc: zoho have an import mail option, Im uploading the files there
[20:19] <nacc> converge: you can just do `mv archive.z01 archive.z01.zip`, with the understanding that whoever is on the other end knows to `mv archive.z01.zip archive.z01` before unzip'ing the split archive
[20:23] <arooni> for ubuntu 16.04; is there a better option than gnome-do ?  it seems pretty buggy and crashes often.  looking for a stable, alfred like replacement
[20:28] <xangua> arooni: gnome do is pretty old yes, you can try synapse
[20:29] <genii> !info alfred xenial
[20:29] <genii> Hm
[20:32] <xangua> arooni: for an even more minimalistic there's ”Albert", not in official repositories www.webupd8.org/2015/01/albert-fast-lightweight-quick-launcher.html?m=1
[20:33] <arooni> do you folks like one of those versus the other?
[20:33] <arooni> synapse  / alfred / albert
[20:34] <xangua> arooni: synapse is in repositories, I just use the unity dash
[20:34] <arooni> xangua: is there a way to make unity dash summon with control + space?
[20:34] <genii> !info albert xenial
[20:34] <arooni> it's how i'm used to getting alfred on the mac
[20:44] <db09> hi all
[20:47] <rajivmars> how to install the multimedia-codecs for ubuntumate 16.04?
[20:49] <Mathias> does anyone have any idea why i can ping to the internet, but not use any other protocols?
[20:49] <EriC^^> rajivmars: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:49] <EriC^^> Mathias: maybe there's a firewall?
[20:50] <Mathias> EriC^^: there shouldn't be, all other devices on the network can access internet fine
[20:50] <EriC^^> Mathias: try sudo iptables -L
[20:50] <rajivmars> EriC^^, thanks:)
[20:50] <Mathias> EriC^^: no rules there
[20:51] <EriC^^> rajivmars: no problem :)
[20:51] <ppf> Mathias: how do you know other protocols don't work?
[20:51] <Mathias> ppf: i've even tried to use iperf
[20:51] <Mathias> it can access LAN too
[20:52] <ppf> i meant what's the error
[20:52] <Mathias> it just times out
[20:52] <rajivmars> EriC^^, are these work in ubuntumate 16.04?
[20:52] <michaldybczak> where can I set menus to windows title bars? now they are alaways on desktop panel (which is fine only on maximized windows)?
[20:52] <EriC^^> rajivmars: yes
[20:52] <rajivmars> ok
[20:53] <db09> I'm trying to assign a static ip to ubuntu-server 14.04 - when I open my /etc/network/interfaces file iss almost empty except for "auto lo iface lo inet loopback" - but I'm still connected to the internet. is the network manager managing the connection?
[20:55] <ppf> Mathias: nslookup google.com | pastebinit
[20:55] <Mathias> dns works
[20:56] <ppf> then what doesn't work ..
[20:56] <Mathias> like trying wget, iperf, apt-get
[20:57] <ppf> then paste the output of telnet google.com 80, please?
[20:57] <akik> db09: if you get your network settings with "nmcli dev list", then yes for network-manager
[21:00] <Mathias> ppf: telnet google.com 80 \n Trying 178.74.30.26...
[21:00] <Andrew_jedi> W: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security Release' does not have a Release file.
[21:00] <Mathias> and then another ip, and another
[21:01] <Andrew_jedi> N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
[21:02] <u0_a1752> what is this
[21:03] <mattfly> hi
[21:03] <mattfly> i need help for unicode sequences when i dont know what charmap ubuntu is using
[21:03] <mattfly> lçike when you press ctrl+shift+u
[21:03] <wedgie> Mathias: maybe an invalid system proxy? Just reaching for possibilities at this point
[21:03] <mattfly> i need to write a verticalslash but is doesnt work if i do U124
[21:04] <Mathias> wedgie: where can i check for that?
[21:05] <\9> mattfly: U+0124 is a "H" with a hat
[21:05] <wedgie> Mathias: Settings -> Network
[21:05] <mattfly> yesss
[21:05] <mattfly> i found that
[21:05] <\9> do you mean the pipe character "|"?
[21:05] <mattfly> what i need is a "|"
[21:05] <mattfly> exactly
[21:05] <\9> that's U+007C
[21:05] <mattfly> i have a stuppid keyboard that doesnt come iwth that
[21:05] <mattfly> a gamming keyboard
[21:05] <\9> it's 7C in ascii and in every other encoding
[21:06] <mattfly> |
[21:06] <mattfly> haha
[21:06] <mattfly> !!
[21:06] <Mathias> wedgie: ubuntu server, no GUI :p
[21:06] <wedgie> ah, not likely then
[21:06] <mattfly> thanks
[21:12] <[twisti]> ever since i installed LTS 16.04 on my machine, i have been experiencing multi second lag spikes. anyone got any idea how to best debug such an issue ?
[21:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[21:14] <bundeskanzler13> i have a server with intel and i want install ubuntu. while it want konfig amd, it stoppt (15%) wat can i do?
[21:15] <nicomachus> bundeskanzler13: start over.
[21:15] <bundeskanzler13> i dit it 4 times
[21:16] <k1l_> bundeskanzler13: the 64bit iso is called amd64 because the 64bit patent is from amd, but intel uses the same technic.
[21:16] <bundeskanzler13> i know, but id din't work
[21:16] <bundeskanzler13> and i don't anderstand why it not work
[21:17] <k1l_> did you check the md5sum of the iso? how did you create the usb drive?
[21:17] <bundeskanzler13> i did my USB prepare with YUMI
[21:19] <Nac44les> Hi
[21:21] <bytesaber> Anyone with experience running a copy of Ubuntu's repo locally?   I am wondering if it would be difficult to remove i386 from it.   I think that I may have messed it up some.  An Ubuntu work station attached to it, is claiming it can't find i386 packages.  Yet it's an amd64 based install.
[21:24] <genii> !multiarch | bytesaber
[21:24] <genii> Hm
[21:25] <genii> bytesaber: 64 bit can still use 32 bit apps and libraries, Ubuntu has had multiarch for a while now ( I believe since 12.04)
[21:25] <OerHeks> what would you gain, removing i386 packages on a private mirror?
[21:26] <OerHeks> now you find out the hard way that you still want i386 packages/libs
[21:29] <db09> hi im trying to assign a static ip to ubuntu server 14.04. Network Manager was managing my internet connection, so I disabled it because I want to use /network/interfaces. i've lost connection to the net - any help trying to regain connection deeply appreciated
[21:30]  * [^FuL|an0^] In stark terms, Wikipedia is one of the single most important undertakings in human history. If we do our job, future generations will look upon Wikipedia as the cornerstone of the information revolution. If we don't, the world will lose a tremendous resource. This is why we need to keep the jews out.
[21:31] <Onepamopa> db09, do you have IPMI on the server ?
[21:31] <zenguy> hi how do you upgrade a kernal in ubuntu 16.04.1 to the latest?
[21:32] <k1l_> zenguy: why and to what kernel?
[21:32] <zenguy> just to keep updated and the latest stable release
[21:32] <Onepamopa> zenguy, apt-cache search linux-image then apt-get install linux-image-xyz linux-headers-xyz
[21:32] <k1l_> zenguy: you will get the 16.10 backports kernel (4.8) in some days when 16.04.2 is released. see !hwe
[21:33] <zenguy> !hwe
[21:33] <Onepamopa> Im already on 4.8.x
[21:33] <k1l_> zenguy: ubuntu works on the LTS kernel and does update that version with all the security patches
[21:33] <zenguy> cool k1l_ thank you :)
[21:35] <k1l_> Onepamopa: its better to use the linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge package. since  in some months that kernel you installed doesnt get any more updates and you need to change to manually
[21:35] <k1l_> Onepamopa: look at the hwe page for more details
[21:35] <Onepamopa> k1l_, in my case thats acceptible due to having to build custom modules each time the kernel updates
[21:37] <k1l_> Onepamopa: its your system, you can do what ever you like :) but keep in mind that users in here might not know and will come in here in one year arguing, that their 4.8 kernel doesnt get any important security updates anymore.
[21:37] <Onepamopa> ;)
[21:38] <Onepamopa> he didn't specify security updates, he just asked for the latest kernel
[21:38] <k1l_> Onepamopa: if you keep reading in here you will know that this will happen :) just look at the amount of 15.04 machines that are still running :/
[21:39] <glache> Would you date a transgender if she had a really nice personality but was born a male?
[21:39] <Onepamopa> glache, no freaking way
[21:39] <k1l_> glache: this is not the right topic for this technical support channel.
[21:41] <glache> Well she is really into computers.  She's very technical.  Great personality.  Looks just like a girls.  Sounds like a girl.
[21:41] <zenguy> and needs a visa?
[21:42] <fernando_> FerranMB
[21:42] <laloune> hello eveodyryb
[21:42] <laloune> hello everbody
[21:43] <glache> The buldge in her paints is a little strange though.
[21:43] <glache> But her personality is great and she loves using Ubuntu.
[21:43] <k1l_> glache: again: this is not the channel for chatter. keep it to technical support only in here
[21:43] <glache> ALright, sorry.
[21:43] <glache> lol
[21:45] <laloune> can somebody help me? I have a problem with my network card (ethernet). Everytime I try to switch the speed to 1000 (ethtool -s <interface> autoneg off speed 1000 full duplex) I get disconnected
[21:45] <laloune> I am using xubuntu 16.10
[21:46] <k1l_> laloune: disconnected as in reconnected. or as in offline
[21:46] <Ben64> laloune: you shouldn't have to switch, there is probably something you have that doesn't support gigabit
[21:46] <k1l_> laloune: i would first look at if that card and kernel and firmware do support that at all.
[21:46] <laloune> k1l_ offline
[21:48] <WeiJunLi> I feel like when I do 'dmesg' it doesnt show all logs
[21:48] <WeiJunLi> since i got alot of stuff going on that should trigger stuff on dmesg
[21:48] <laloune> Ben64 it should as the ethtool -s command states: supported link modes 1000baseT/Full
[21:48] <WeiJunLi> but i keep with the same loogs
[21:48] <WeiJunLi> logs*
[21:48] <WeiJunLi> any hint
[21:48] <bytesaber> genii, ok.  Looks like i'm experiencing this.     http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/272908/apt-looking-for-i386-files-even-though-architecture-is-amd64
[21:48] <bytesaber> OerHeks, probablly right
[21:48] <laloune> k1l_ how can I check whether card/kernel/firmware does support it?
[21:49] <Ben64> laloune: i mean the other devices, the cable, etc
[21:50] <bytesaber> Sounds like it would be abnormal to not have i386 available to an amd64 host.
[21:50] <bytesaber> i'll put i386 back into my /etc/apt/mirrors.list
[21:50] <k1l_> laloune: is that a known issue for that card? where did you get the idea to have to change that setting?
[21:50] <fernando__> Hello. my wifi connexion goes down frequently. I use an Intel mini pci card (type B, 11Mb/s). Any help please?
[21:51] <k1l_> bytesaber: its very common to have 32bit packages. steam and wine are some of the worst 32bit pulling softwares.
[21:52] <laloune> I got the idea cause the speed was very low
[21:52] <laloune> Ben64 if the router does not support 1Gb can this cause the deconnection
[21:53] <laloune> how can I see the network card model please
[21:53] <k1l_> laloune: lspci
[21:54] <laloune> k1l_ thanks I check that right now
[21:56] <bytesaber> k1l_, roger roger
[22:01] <Ben64> laloune: yes
[22:09] <db09> hi im trying to assign a static ip to ubuntu server 14.04. Network Manager was managing my internet connection, so I disabled it because I want to use /network/interfaces. i've lost connection to the net - any help trying to regain connection deeply appreciated
[22:12] <Ben64> db09: ubuntu server doesn't use network manager
[22:13] <laloune> Ben64 the ethernet card seems to support 1 Gb
[22:13] <laloune> can this come from the driver?
[22:14] <laloune> Ben64 how can I check which version of the driver this is
[22:14] <Ben64> what card is it
[22:14] <Ben64> also what router, how long is the cable, what cable type is it
[22:15] <Ben64> but really, if it isn't automatically getting gigabit, something doesn't support it
[22:16] <laloune> it is Intel I219-LM
[22:17] <laloune> Ben 64 cable is UTP CAT5E 4 PAIRS ETA / TIA 568 B
[22:17] <laloune> this is no router but a swith
[22:18] <laloune> this is no router but a switch
[22:19] <laloune> Ben64 oh well, the switch is 10/100 :-/
[22:19] <laloune> but can this really explain why the ethtool command provokes a disconnection?
[22:19] <Ben64> yes
[22:20] <laloune> really really ? ;)
[22:21] <laloune> Ben64 k then, I'll try at the office where the switch should have 1000
[22:21] <laloune> thanks a bunch
[22:39] <unix_newbie> hey all - I am trying to rename files in ubuntu using mv,  and the files are in a git repo
[22:40] <unix_newbie> after I changed the file name using mv and do a 'git status' - the old file name goes to deleted and the new ones go to untracked
[22:40] <nacc> unix_newbie: you want to use `git-mv` to rename files in a git repo, normally
[22:42] <unix_newbie> nacc: hello and thank you - so I ran this command earlier:  "find . -name "*.yaml" -exec bash -c 'mv "$1" "${1%.yaml}".yml' - '{}' \;"
[22:42] <unix_newbie> I just need to change the "mv" into "git -mv"
[22:42] <nacc> unix_newbie: you should read the manpage, to be sure
[22:42] <nacc> unix_newbie: and it's either `git-mv` or `git mv`
[22:42] <unix_newbie> yes I can do that... thank you so much
[22:42] <unix_newbie> I will do that, I mean
[22:44] <Wulf> Hello
[22:45] <Wulf> (How) can I add a new user to the system that shares the same groups as the user that I created during install?
[22:59] <amazoniantoad> Wow the ubuntu support room isn't all that great anymore.
[22:59] <amazoniantoad> It used to be incredible.
[22:59] <amazoniantoad> Lots of support. Now, not so much.
[23:00] <halvors> Any devs online?
[23:00] <halvors> Anyone who can claim https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1634855
[23:01] <db09> hi I'm trying to assign a static ip to a server - after I edit /etc/network/interfaces and reboot I can't ping 8.8.8.8 - can anyone look at my config contents and see if I've goofed somewhere? http://pastebin.com/BNSWsxhg
[23:02] <Bashing-om> db09: look'n .
[23:02] <k1l_> db09: what devices lists "ifconfig"?
[23:03] <pavlos> db09, netmask should be 255.255.255.0
[23:04] <pavlos> db09, netmask iface eth0 inet static
[23:04] <pavlos> db09, iface eth0 inet static
[23:04] <pavlos> db09, dns mispelled
[23:05] <k1l_> yes, and that, not loopback but static for that device. (if its eth0 at all and not a eno1 or such)
[23:05] <pavlos> db09, https://www.swiftstack.com/docs/install/configure_networking.html
[23:08] <Bashing-om> db09: ^^ nothing else to add . This for a wired interface on release 14.04 .
[23:08] <db09> ah! thank you all so much. I hand typed the pastebin and made some of the typos but I did have "loopback" instead of static.
[23:10] <ivanskie> hi. i have sshd configured to listen on 0.0.0.0 with standard port. for some reason i cannot reach it from outside the network with proper nat port forwarding configured (tested with another machine, so its not the port forward)
[23:10] <ivanskie> ufw says its inactive and iptables are empty too..
[23:11] <ivanskie> vagrant box with ubuntu, bridged interface with lan ip address.. i can ssh into it from another machine on the same lan..  --- is there something in the ssh config that can prevent connections from internet?
[23:11] <Ben64> ivanskie: no, check the port forwarding
[23:12] <ivanskie> Ben64: i've pointed the port forward to another linux box on the network and it works. once i point it to my vagrant box's ip address. thats it. show's over.
[23:13] <Ben64> that's not really checking
[23:13] <Ben64> use nmap from the internet
[23:23] <MacHappy> Im new guy here
[23:24] <Bashing-om> MacHappy: Welcome to the ubuntu support channel .
[23:28] <Akuw> hi
[23:28] <hellstabber> hello
[23:29] <Akuw> i am trying to run android studio emulator but altought installed kvm AS request for HAXM
[23:31] <fishcooker> anyone have this update patched https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3181-1/... is that really necessary to reboot after applying or just restart all service using the sslib ?
[23:34] <Ben64> fishcooker: easier to reboot
[23:34] <wedgie> fishcooker: yes, you can just restart all the services using it.
[23:37] <ivanskie> Ben64: so I've ran nmap.. it says port open service unknown
[23:38] <fishcooker> without reboot should be OK Ben64
[23:38] <fishcooker> thanks wedgie
[23:38] <ivanskie> ook then.. now it works? that is odd
[23:39] <ivanskie> nevermind, still pointing to the other linux box
[23:39] <bytesaber> Is archive and security, the same place?  "archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" and "security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" both appear to be the same resulting location.
[23:40] <bytesaber> "extras.ubuntu.com" is different however.
[23:44] <saeed> hello
[23:44] <ivanskie> i dont think its the firewall because when i switch the destination wan ip from one to another public ip i have.. the result in nmap is the same. port/tcp filtered unkown
[23:45] <ivanskie> iptables are inactive, and ufw is inactive.. what else could be filtering ssh?
[23:45] <Ben64> filtered = firewalled
[23:48] <k1l_> bytesaber: no, the security repos includes the updates from the security team.
[23:49] <k1l_> bytesaber: look at the different package on the different repos: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl
[23:49] <nacc> bytesaber: how are you determining they are the "same resulting location"?
[23:54] <ivanskie> ok Ben64: i've just done a bunch more digging around and testing. How do I check if my ubuntu box is filtering incoming? its not my pfsense that's blocking the port.
[23:54] <Ben64> use nmap from inside the network