| xubuntu51w | hello so i am new to linux my computer is not booting i checked in internet it was some old b43 driver error which was before ubuntu12.04 but i have this on xubuntu16.04 | 04:43 |
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| xubuntu51w | what do i do | 04:43 |
| xubuntu48i | g | 13:42 |
| dmt420 | o | 17:40 |
| anna` | Hi folks, i am running 16.04 64bit and having issues with HDMI wakeup after monitor sleep | 17:43 |
| anna` | Or rather, monitor standby, i should say, via the monitor itself. In this case a 32" Samsung TV. Tried different HDMI cables, tried different power management options on TV/XFCE/UEFI | 17:44 |
| anna` | It's on-die braswell GPU btw | 17:44 |
| anna` | I have tried Lubuntu from a live USB and it wakes up just fine | 17:44 |
| anna` | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 <-- suggests it's known about but is marked as RESOLVED | 17:45 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11107 in Xfsettingsd "xfsettingsd resets TV mode to NULL on power cycle" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 17:45 |
| flocculant | anna`: I would suspect is was marked resolved post 16.04 - the patch in that bug report was added for 4.12.0-3 in 16.10 - could you check if you're affected there? | 18:09 |
| anna` | i had wondered that, i haven't checked 16.10 and if I am honest i much prefer LTS because i am using it as a media center | 18:10 |
| flocculant | seemingly you can install a more current xfce4-settings in 16.04 without issue to check | 18:10 |
| anna` | i can leech 16.10 and test it live to help you guys debug if you wish? | 18:11 |
| anna` | How might i go about doing that? | 18:11 |
| flocculant | hang on :) | 18:11 |
| anna` | ty x | 18:12 |
| flocculant | 32 or 64 bit? | 18:12 |
| flocculant | anna`: ^^ | 18:12 |
| anna` | 64bit | 18:13 |
| flocculant | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/4.12.0-3ubuntu1/+build/10193377/+files/xfce4-settings_4.12.0-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 18:13 |
| flocculant | if that still gives you issues try this | 18:13 |
| flocculant | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/4.12.1-1ubuntu1/+build/11136326/+files/xfce4-settings_4.12.1-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 18:14 |
| flocculant | anna`: can you report if it works or not for you at bug 1308105 | 18:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1308105 in Mythbuntu "Xfce resets TV mode to NULL when power cycled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308105 | 18:15 |
| flocculant | it seems sru worthy - so at least if we know it's working there we can perhaps work towards sru'ing it | 18:15 |
| anna` | i dislike doing things i don't understand since i learn nothing, so what exactly am i doing? The file implies settings but the contents of the .deb is more than a few confs? | 18:15 |
| anna` | What does SRU mean? | 18:15 |
| anna` | Ah stable release update | 18:16 |
| anna` | Shoulda googled my bad <3 | 18:16 |
| flocculant | anna`: ok - what you are doing is replacing the existing version of xfce4-settings with newer one - the first one is the 16.10 version, the second the 17.04 version - both *should* have the patch from the xfce bug | 18:17 |
| anna` | Okay | 18:17 |
| flocculant | sru - stable release update - we can't just update packages backwards | 18:17 |
| flocculant | anna`: ftr - when I was seeing the same problem as you - I managed it with a sleep in a script - mentioned in that report - others who have tried the same thng found it didn't work | 18:18 |
| anna` | i assumed the major bug fixes from 16.10 would make it in to 16.04 since it is a LTS | 18:18 |
| flocculant | anna`: only when we've done an sru | 18:18 |
| anna` | Ok | 18:19 |
| anna` | I have a teeny tiny confession to make | 18:19 |
| anna` | i may have wiped Xubuntu in favour of Lubuntu :/ | 18:19 |
| flocculant | and you're major bug is my 'meh doesn't affect me' | 18:19 |
| anna` | But i will re-install Xubuntu in a sec and try your suggestion because i'd rather use XFCE i think | 18:19 |
| flocculant | ok | 18:20 |
| anna` | Yer, i guess if it affected everyone's HDMI wakeup it would have been fixed ages ago :) | 18:20 |
| flocculant | I'm about sort of for a couple more hours tonight if you want to ping me | 18:20 |
| anna` | Awesome ty | 18:21 |
| anna` | i am installing to SD cards since this rig is a 6W N3050 shuttle and power saving was a motivation so will simply swap cards and try now 8) | 18:22 |
| flocculant | right | 18:22 |
| flocculant | well - let's see what happens :) | 18:23 |
| johan_ | hoping someone could help me out, got a fresh 16.04 install and getting lightdm issues when trying to log in after adding disks to fstab | 18:47 |
| johan_ | if i leave the disks out of fstab, it works fine(like now), if i add them, screen goes blank after login | 18:48 |
| xubuntu07i | hello | 18:48 |
| johan_ | the disks mount just fine when added however, but no x so that's no good | 18:49 |
| flocculant | johan_: not necessarily going to be able to help - but pastebin fstab to give people more chance | 18:49 |
| johan_ | sure, sec | 18:50 |
| johan_ | http://pastebin.com/NwKfWYmW | 18:52 |
| johan_ | i've tried multiple flags etc btw but no luck so far | 18:54 |
| johan_ | i can mount the disks just fine when actually logged in | 18:54 |
| sathed | Hey guys - I've got a fresh install of Xubuntu 16.04 (as of yesterday morning). My reboot times are insanely high (>10 minutes). My PC is nice (2x Intel i7-6700, 64 GB RAM, Samsung Pro SSD), so it shouldn't be a hardware issue... I've run systemd-analyze and nothing is jumping out... I'm at a loss. | 18:55 |
| flocculant | well only difference to drives I mount is I just UUID= and different is I 0 1 | 18:56 |
| sathed | I even checked to make sure something wasn't off with my swap space. I compared /etc/fstab with the output of blkid and everything appears to be fine. | 18:56 |
| johan_ | yeah like i said i've tried multiple flags etc but every time i add them the lightdm kicks in | 18:57 |
| johan_ | i can access that particular disk just fine as we speak after mounting it after logging in | 18:57 |
| johan_ | the lightdm thing* | 18:59 |
| anna` | Is this the line? | 19:01 |
| anna` | /dev/disk/by-uuid/e2404a26-ad72-4eba-892f-31470bdd3874 /home ext4 defaults 1 2 | 19:02 |
| johan_ | the one that breaks everything, yeah | 19:02 |
| anna` | If so, strikes me it's because you're trying to mount it as /home | 19:02 |
| anna` | Don't you want /home/something or /mnt/something ? | 19:02 |
| anna` | /home is already populated? no? | 19:02 |
| johan_ | would adding my user to the line solve it? | 19:03 |
| anna` | try mounting it as something other than just /home and seeing if that helps | 19:03 |
| anna` | /home/test or something | 19:04 |
| anna` | (assuming you don't have a user called test of course :) | 19:04 |
| johan_ | will report back in a few :) | 19:05 |
| johan_ | didn't work | 19:10 |
| johan_ | (reporting in from my adjacent laptop instead) | 19:10 |
| johan_ | hm okay after another attempt it worked, but with an undesirable path | 19:13 |
| knome | note that you can't mount stuff to paths that already exist on mounted filesystems | 19:13 |
| johan_ | so how would i remove the /home on my tiny ssd intended only for the system itself and swap? | 19:14 |
| johan_ | that's how i've always had it before, until my reinstall yesterday | 19:14 |
| knome | run a live system and remove the /home directory when the filesystem isn't in use | 19:14 |
| johan_ | ok, i'll try that | 19:15 |
| knome | then also make sure the separate /home partition is in the fstab | 19:15 |
| knome | and then boot without the live media | 19:15 |
| johan_ | well right now that worked i just made up some name that wasn't there | 19:15 |
| anna` | i think trying to mount /home from somewhere else is just a bad idea tbh | 19:16 |
| johan_ | how so | 19:16 |
| knome | anna`, having a separate partition - or even hard drive - i completely ok | 19:16 |
| anna` | Ok | 19:16 |
| johan_ | think i sorted it out | 19:26 |
| johan_ | thanks :) | 19:26 |
| anna` | ;D | 19:27 |
| johan_ | now for the long process of restoring order.. | 19:31 |
| johan_ | my old /home disk got broken sectors last week | 19:31 |
| anna` | flocculant: 16.10 settings seem to work :) | 19:45 |
| anna` | johan_ :/ | 19:45 |
| flocculant | anna`: ok - can you comment on bug 1308105 :) | 19:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1308105 in Mythbuntu "Xfce resets TV mode to NULL when power cycled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308105 | 19:45 |
| johan_ | anna`: managed to save most of it fortunately | 19:46 |
| johan_ | logged all the failed copies to text so it's easily(mostly) retrievable | 19:46 |
| flocculant | anna`: not saying it will be sru'd - but it certainly won't be if we don't know about the state of it | 19:46 |
| johan_ | took an annoyingly long time to copy it though | 19:47 |
| johan_ | had a liveusb running friday-monday night just copying files | 19:47 |
| anna` | Sure flocculant thanks, i will do a full re-build now, built this recently and made notes so wanna be sure it totally is fixed | 19:48 |
| anna` | johan_: i use mega.nz to sync all my stuff, hosted in a 5 eyes country but encrypted before it leaves your box, also have a nas too | 19:49 |
| anna` | Not sure if mega has a reasonable linux client i only use linux for my servers or my media server | 19:49 |
| johan_ | i should do something like that too | 19:55 |
| johan_ | really looking forward to actually making money, but that's still a few years in the future | 19:55 |
| johan_ | should use more cloud stuff generally but the network here is too unreliable | 19:57 |
| anna` | i use it to sync my macs and stuff | 19:58 |
| anna` | Also has a bastardised kind of versioning system, since when you save a file it re-uploads and keeps the old copy for a while, has been useful at times | 19:58 |
| johan_ | only apple device i've ever owned was one of the early ipods :P | 19:59 |
| johan_ | whenever i borrow a macbook i just get annoyed by the keymap layout and never finding things | 20:00 |
| anna` | i used to use hacs but bought a mba for uni and then a 17" mbp for home | 20:00 |
| anna` | System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011) • CPU: Intel Core i7-2720QM (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 2.20 GHz • Memory: 12.00 GB • Uptime: 18 hours • Disk Space: 478.87 GB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, AMD Radeon HD 6750M • Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200 • OS: (null) (Version 10.12.2, Build 16C67) | 20:00 |
| anna` | 3 finger workflow ftw | 20:00 |
| anna` | My old hac desktop was quad screen ;D | 20:00 |
| anna` | xD | 20:00 |
| johan_ | i wish i had even a second monitor | 20:02 |
| anna` | Can never have enough pixels ;D | 20:03 |
| johan_ | i have too few imo :P | 20:03 |
| johan_ | a single 1920x1080 atm | 20:04 |
| johan_ | kinda afraid of how much i'm gonna spend on shiny new hardware once i get a solid income | 20:05 |
| anna` | horizontal 3 finger swipes in osx allow you to trivially flick between desktops | 20:08 |
| anna` | So it's like looking at different screens without moving your head, highly recommended | 20:08 |
| johan_ | should be able to configure that stuff one DE of your choice as well, no? | 20:10 |
| johan_ | on* | 20:10 |
| johan_ | has a tendency to break though, which i expect osx doesn't | 20:10 |
| anna` | Yer my friend did | 20:12 |
| anna` | She saw me doing it and enabled it on her linux laptop | 20:12 |
| anna` | i can ask her how if you want? | 20:12 |
| johan_ | heh no i'm good | 20:12 |
| johan_ | i'm a fan of fluxbox really but i've only ever had it play nice on arch before | 20:13 |
| johan_ | wish there were well supported editions of ubuntu and fedora etc for it | 20:13 |
| johan_ | anyway as i'm about to starve to death i'm gonna go make myself some dinner | 20:16 |
| xangua | johan_: Lubuntu uses openbox, but you can install fluxbox both in Ubuntu and Fedora | 20:27 |
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| anna` | Forgive me and my noobness, but at the end of the xubuntu install, shouldn't a window pop-up asking me if i wish to install a bootloader? | 21:11 |
| flocculant | anna`: no - that's part of the partition setup stage | 21:13 |
| anna` | Where is the partition setup page? | 21:15 |
| flocculant | when you - erase disk, alongside or something else - at the bottom of that section is the bootloader section | 21:16 |
| anna` | The problem I am having is my UEFI, when i try and boot it says Ubuntu (lexar USB flash drive) and doesn't list my SD card anywhere so won't boot from it | 21:18 |
| anna` | Afaik all i did was reinstall lubuntu and now reinstall xubuntu over the top | 21:18 |
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| xubuntu51w | Hello. Having some hard drive troubles on my Lenovo T530. | 21:57 |
| xubuntu51w | Can anyone here help me? | 21:58 |
| knome | tell what kind of problems you are having and we'll see | 21:58 |
| xubuntu51w | Ive been using Xubuntu alone on my pc for about a halfyear now and I woke up and it wont boot. Trying to wipe everything and reinstall xubuntu and Im getting all sorts of weird errors. Im on my phone now. | 21:59 |
| xubuntu51w | Fsck came back with error 6, then 4, then 2, then I gave up and started trying to format and put new Xubuntu on. | 22:00 |
| xubuntu51w | When I try installing it says something like cant read /dev/sdb | 22:01 |
| xubuntu51w | Xubuntu 16.04 | 22:01 |
| xubuntu51w | The error messages vary, the next one I get I will let you know everything. | 22:03 |
| xubuntu51w | Libparted error during read on /dev/sdb | 22:03 |
| xubuntu51w | Input/output | 22:04 |
| xubuntu51w | What do? | 22:04 |
| johan_ | sounds like broken sectors | 22:04 |
| xubuntu51w | I tried a couple disk checks and they came back as passed, the bios one and others. No idea what I am doing here though. | 22:07 |
| xubuntu51w | Seems like the more I do the more trouble I am getting. Just want an OS to do my taxes today haha. | 22:08 |
| xubuntu51w | So what's the jist, am I fucked? Is there a broken hardware issue? What needs replacement? | 22:09 |
| knome | xubuntu51w, please remember this is a family-friendly channel. | 22:10 |
| xubuntu51w | My apologies. Am I fudged with chocolate glaze? | 22:10 |
| knome | it's hard to say with this little debugging, but if anything, you might need to replace your hard drive | 22:11 |
| xubuntu51w | Ok... How do I know? | 22:11 |
| xubuntu51w | If I bought a new one, is it just snap in and reboot? | 22:12 |
| xubuntu51w | Or is there more part damage? I haven't dropped it or hurt it. Excessive use maybe... | 22:13 |
| xubuntu51w | Any help is appreciated knome. | 22:13 |
| knome | again it's hard to know; if you've ran disk checks and they say it's ok, maybe it is... | 22:15 |
| knome | hard drive failures aren't commonly hurting other components, so it should be one of the easiest ones if you need to do it | 22:16 |
| xubuntu51w | Well thank you knome. | 22:23 |
| xubuntu51w | May I ask another question? | 22:23 |
| knome | sure | 22:23 |
| xubuntu51w | If I got a new harddrive, how do I insta the new OS? | 22:25 |
| xubuntu51w | Install* | 22:25 |
| xangua | Same way you installed it the first time | 22:25 |
| xubuntu51w | This was my trustiest piece of hardware. | 22:25 |
| xubuntu51w | Will there be any driver complications, or does it just need the right kind of SATA connection? | 22:26 |
| xubuntu51w | Is there a way to use a portion of the harddrive? | 22:27 |
| knome | if it's broken, you'll want to replace it for good. | 22:27 |
| xubuntu51w | Ok. | 22:27 |
| knome | or in other words, it's a bad sign if fsck can't fix it and it keeps giving errors | 22:29 |
| knome | it should be able to fix ... fixable errors | 22:29 |
| xubuntu51w | Ok. | 22:29 |
| xubuntu51w | So is it.. plug and play with the new hardware? | 22:30 |
| knome | with hard drives, that should be it | 22:30 |
| xubuntu51w | Or in my case, plug and study? | 22:30 |
| xubuntu51w | Ok. | 22:30 |
| xubuntu51w | Thank you much. | 22:31 |
| xubuntu51w | Checking out. | 22:35 |
| siim | hi guys! | 23:16 |
| knome | hello | 23:17 |
| sathed | Anyone have an idea why my screen would turn off immediately after logging in? It's happening every time my computer locks. It takes 30-40 seconds to get the screen back on. | 23:18 |
| sathed | I'm running a fresh install of 16.04 | 23:22 |
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