[04:43] <xubuntu51w> hello so i am new to linux my computer is not booting i checked in internet it was some old b43 driver error which was before ubuntu12.04 but i have this on xubuntu16.04
[04:43] <xubuntu51w> what do i do
[13:42] <xubuntu48i> g
[17:40] <dmt420> o
[17:43] <anna`> Hi folks, i am running 16.04 64bit and having issues with HDMI wakeup after monitor sleep
[17:44] <anna`> Or rather, monitor standby, i should say, via the monitor itself. In this case a 32" Samsung TV. Tried different HDMI cables, tried different power management options on TV/XFCE/UEFI
[17:44] <anna`> It's on-die braswell GPU btw
[17:44] <anna`> I have tried Lubuntu from a live USB and it wakes up just fine
[17:45] <anna`> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 <-- suggests it's known about but is marked as RESOLVED
[18:09] <flocculant> anna`: I would suspect is was marked resolved post 16.04 - the patch in that bug report was added for 4.12.0-3 in 16.10 - could you check if you're affected there?
[18:10] <anna`> i had wondered that, i haven't checked 16.10 and if I am honest i much prefer LTS because i am using it as a media center
[18:10] <flocculant> seemingly you can install a more current xfce4-settings in 16.04 without issue to check
[18:11] <anna`> i can leech 16.10 and test it live to help you guys debug if you wish?
[18:11] <anna`> How might i go about doing that?
[18:11] <flocculant> hang on :)
[18:12] <anna`> ty x
[18:12] <flocculant> 32 or 64 bit?
[18:12] <flocculant> anna`: ^^
[18:13] <anna`> 64bit
[18:13] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/4.12.0-3ubuntu1/+build/10193377/+files/xfce4-settings_4.12.0-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[18:13] <flocculant> if that still gives you issues try this
[18:14] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/4.12.1-1ubuntu1/+build/11136326/+files/xfce4-settings_4.12.1-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[18:15] <flocculant> anna`: can you report if it works or not for you at bug 1308105
[18:15] <flocculant> it seems sru worthy - so at least if we know it's working there we can perhaps work towards sru'ing it
[18:15] <anna`> i dislike doing things i don't understand since i learn nothing, so what exactly am i doing? The file implies settings but the contents of the .deb is more than a few confs?
[18:15] <anna`> What does SRU mean?
[18:16] <anna`> Ah stable release update
[18:16] <anna`> Shoulda googled my bad <3
[18:17] <flocculant> anna`: ok - what you are doing is replacing the existing version of xfce4-settings with newer one - the first one is the 16.10 version, the second the 17.04 version - both *should* have the patch from the xfce bug
[18:17] <anna`> Okay
[18:17] <flocculant> sru - stable release update - we can't just update packages backwards
[18:18] <flocculant> anna`: ftr - when I was seeing the same problem as you - I managed it with a sleep in a script - mentioned in that report - others who have tried the same thng found it didn't work
[18:18] <anna`> i assumed the major bug fixes from 16.10 would make it in to 16.04 since it is a LTS
[18:18] <flocculant> anna`: only when we've done an sru
[18:19] <anna`> Ok
[18:19] <anna`> I have a teeny tiny confession to make
[18:19] <anna`> i may have wiped Xubuntu in favour of Lubuntu :/
[18:19] <flocculant> and you're major bug is my 'meh doesn't affect me'
[18:19] <anna`> But i will re-install Xubuntu in a sec and try your suggestion because i'd rather use XFCE i think
[18:20] <flocculant> ok
[18:20] <anna`> Yer, i guess if it affected everyone's HDMI wakeup it would have been fixed ages ago :)
[18:20] <flocculant> I'm about sort of for a couple more hours tonight if you want to ping me
[18:21] <anna`> Awesome ty
[18:22] <anna`> i am installing to SD cards since this rig is a 6W N3050 shuttle and power saving was a motivation so will simply swap cards and try now 8)
[18:22] <flocculant> right
[18:23] <flocculant> well - let's see what happens :)
[18:47] <johan_> hoping someone could help me out, got a fresh 16.04 install and getting lightdm issues when trying to log in after adding disks to fstab
[18:48] <johan_> if i leave the disks out of fstab, it works fine(like now), if i add them, screen goes blank after login
[18:48] <xubuntu07i> hello
[18:49] <johan_> the disks mount just fine when added however, but no x so that's no good
[18:49] <flocculant> johan_: not necessarily going to be able to help - but pastebin fstab to give people more chance
[18:50] <johan_> sure, sec
[18:52] <johan_> http://pastebin.com/NwKfWYmW
[18:54] <johan_> i've tried multiple flags etc btw but no luck so far
[18:54] <johan_> i can mount the disks just fine when actually logged in
[18:55] <sathed> Hey guys - I've got a fresh install of Xubuntu 16.04 (as of yesterday morning). My reboot times are insanely high (>10 minutes). My PC is nice (2x Intel i7-6700, 64 GB RAM, Samsung Pro SSD), so it shouldn't be a hardware issue... I've run systemd-analyze and nothing is jumping out... I'm at a loss.
[18:56] <flocculant> well only difference to drives I mount is I just UUID= and different is I 0 1
[18:56] <sathed> I even checked to make sure something wasn't off with my swap space. I compared /etc/fstab with the output of blkid and everything appears to be fine.
[18:57] <johan_> yeah like i said i've tried multiple flags etc but every time i add them the lightdm kicks in
[18:57] <johan_> i can access that particular disk just fine as we speak after mounting it after logging in
[18:59] <johan_> the lightdm thing*
[19:01] <anna`> Is this the line?
[19:02] <anna`> /dev/disk/by-uuid/e2404a26-ad72-4eba-892f-31470bdd3874 /home ext4 defaults 1 2
[19:02] <johan_> the one that breaks everything, yeah
[19:02] <anna`> If so, strikes me it's because you're trying to mount it as /home
[19:02] <anna`> Don't you want /home/something or /mnt/something ?
[19:02] <anna`> /home is already populated? no?
[19:03] <johan_> would adding my user to the line solve it?
[19:03] <anna`> try mounting it as something other than just /home and seeing if that helps
[19:04] <anna`> /home/test        or something
[19:04] <anna`> (assuming you don't have a user called test of course :)
[19:05] <johan_> will report back in a few :)
[19:10] <johan_> didn't work
[19:10] <johan_> (reporting in from my adjacent laptop instead)
[19:13] <johan_> hm okay after another attempt it worked, but with an undesirable path
[19:13] <knome> note that you can't mount stuff to paths that already exist on mounted filesystems
[19:14] <johan_> so how would i remove the /home on my tiny ssd intended only for the system itself and swap?
[19:14] <johan_> that's how i've always had it before, until my reinstall yesterday
[19:14] <knome> run a live system and remove the /home directory when the filesystem isn't in use
[19:15] <johan_> ok, i'll try that
[19:15] <knome> then also make sure the separate /home partition is in the fstab
[19:15] <knome> and then boot without the live media
[19:15] <johan_> well right now that worked i just made up some name that wasn't there
[19:16] <anna`> i think trying to mount /home from somewhere else is just a bad idea tbh
[19:16] <johan_> how so
[19:16] <knome> anna`, having a separate partition - or even hard drive - i completely ok
[19:16] <anna`> Ok
[19:26] <johan_> think i sorted it out
[19:26] <johan_> thanks :)
[19:27] <anna`> ;D
[19:31] <johan_> now for the long process of restoring order..
[19:31] <johan_> my old /home disk got broken sectors last week
[19:45] <anna`> flocculant: 16.10 settings seem to work :)
[19:45] <anna`> johan_  :/
[19:45] <flocculant> anna`: ok - can you comment on bug 1308105 :)
[19:46] <johan_> anna`: managed to save most of it fortunately
[19:46] <johan_> logged all the failed copies to text so it's easily(mostly) retrievable
[19:46] <flocculant> anna`: not saying it will be sru'd - but it certainly won't be if we don't know about the state of it
[19:47] <johan_> took an annoyingly long time to copy it though
[19:47] <johan_> had a liveusb running friday-monday night just copying files
[19:48] <anna`> Sure flocculant thanks, i will do a full re-build now, built this recently and made notes so wanna be sure it totally is fixed
[19:49] <anna`> johan_: i use mega.nz to sync all my stuff, hosted in a 5 eyes country but encrypted before it leaves your box, also have a nas too
[19:49] <anna`> Not sure if mega has a reasonable linux client i only use linux for my servers or my media server
[19:55] <johan_> i should do something like that too
[19:55] <johan_> really looking forward to actually making money, but that's still a few years in the future
[19:57] <johan_> should use more cloud stuff generally but the network here is too unreliable
[19:58] <anna`> i use it to sync my macs and stuff
[19:58] <anna`> Also has a bastardised kind of versioning system, since when you save a file it re-uploads and keeps the old copy for a while, has been useful at times
[19:59] <johan_> only apple device i've ever owned was one of the early ipods :P
[20:00] <johan_> whenever i borrow a macbook i just get annoyed by the keymap layout and never finding things
[20:00] <anna`> i used to use hacs but bought a mba for uni and then a 17" mbp for home
[20:00] <anna`> System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011) • CPU: Intel Core i7-2720QM (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 2.20 GHz • Memory: 12.00 GB • Uptime: 18 hours • Disk Space: 478.87 GB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, AMD Radeon HD 6750M • Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200 • OS: (null) (Version 10.12.2, Build 16C67)
[20:00] <anna`> 3 finger workflow ftw
[20:00] <anna`> My old hac desktop was quad screen ;D
[20:00] <anna`> xD
[20:02] <johan_> i wish i had even a second monitor
[20:03] <anna`> Can never have enough pixels ;D
[20:03] <johan_> i have too few imo :P
[20:04] <johan_> a single 1920x1080 atm
[20:05] <johan_> kinda afraid of how much i'm gonna spend on shiny new hardware once i get a solid income
[20:08] <anna`> horizontal 3 finger swipes in osx allow you to trivially flick between desktops
[20:08] <anna`> So it's like looking at different screens without moving your head, highly recommended
[20:10] <johan_> should be able to configure that stuff one DE of your choice as well, no?
[20:10] <johan_> on*
[20:10] <johan_> has a tendency to break though, which i expect osx doesn't
[20:12] <anna`> Yer my friend did
[20:12] <anna`> She saw me doing it and enabled it on her linux laptop
[20:12] <anna`> i can ask her how if you want?
[20:12] <johan_> heh no i'm good
[20:13] <johan_> i'm a fan of fluxbox really but i've only ever had it play nice on arch before
[20:13] <johan_> wish there were well supported editions of ubuntu and fedora etc for it
[20:16] <johan_> anyway as i'm about to starve to death i'm gonna go make myself some dinner
[20:27] <xangua> johan_: Lubuntu uses openbox, but you can install fluxbox both in Ubuntu and Fedora
[21:11] <anna`> Forgive me and my noobness, but at the end of the xubuntu install, shouldn't a window pop-up asking me if i wish to install a bootloader?
[21:13] <flocculant> anna`: no - that's part of the partition setup stage
[21:15] <anna`> Where is the partition setup page?
[21:16] <flocculant> when you - erase disk, alongside or something else - at the bottom of that section is the bootloader section
[21:18] <anna`> The problem I am having is my UEFI, when i try and boot it says Ubuntu (lexar USB flash drive) and doesn't list my SD card anywhere so won't boot from it
[21:18] <anna`> Afaik all i did was reinstall lubuntu and now reinstall xubuntu over the top
[21:57] <xubuntu51w> Hello. Having some hard drive troubles on my Lenovo T530.
[21:58] <xubuntu51w> Can anyone here help me?
[21:58] <knome> tell what kind of problems you are having and we'll see
[21:59] <xubuntu51w> Ive been using Xubuntu alone on my pc for about a halfyear now and I woke up and it wont boot. Trying to wipe everything and reinstall xubuntu and Im getting all sorts of weird errors. Im on my phone now.
[22:00] <xubuntu51w> Fsck came back with error 6, then 4, then 2, then I gave up and started trying to format and put new Xubuntu on.
[22:01] <xubuntu51w> When I try installing it says something like cant read /dev/sdb
[22:01] <xubuntu51w> Xubuntu 16.04
[22:03] <xubuntu51w> The error messages vary, the next one I get I will let you know everything.
[22:03] <xubuntu51w> Libparted error during read on /dev/sdb
[22:04] <xubuntu51w> Input/output
[22:04] <xubuntu51w> What do?
[22:04] <johan_> sounds like broken sectors
[22:07] <xubuntu51w> I tried a couple disk checks and they came back as passed, the bios one and others. No idea what I am doing here though.
[22:08] <xubuntu51w> Seems like the more I do the more trouble I am getting. Just want an OS to do my taxes today haha.
[22:09] <xubuntu51w> So what's the jist, am I fucked? Is there a broken hardware issue? What needs replacement?
[22:10] <knome> xubuntu51w, please remember this is a family-friendly channel.
[22:10] <xubuntu51w> My apologies. Am I fudged with chocolate glaze?
[22:11] <knome> it's hard to say with this little debugging, but if anything, you might need to replace your hard drive
[22:11] <xubuntu51w> Ok... How do I know?
[22:12] <xubuntu51w> If I bought a new one, is it just snap in and reboot?
[22:13] <xubuntu51w> Or is there more part damage? I haven't dropped it or hurt it. Excessive use maybe...
[22:13] <xubuntu51w> Any help is appreciated knome.
[22:15] <knome> again it's hard to know; if you've ran disk checks and they say it's ok, maybe it is...
[22:16] <knome> hard drive failures aren't commonly hurting other components, so it should be one of the easiest ones if you need to do it
[22:23] <xubuntu51w> Well thank you knome.
[22:23] <xubuntu51w> May I ask another question?
[22:23] <knome> sure
[22:25] <xubuntu51w> If I got a new harddrive, how do I insta the new OS?
[22:25] <xubuntu51w> Install*
[22:25] <xangua> Same way you installed it the first time
[22:25] <xubuntu51w> This was my trustiest piece of hardware.
[22:26] <xubuntu51w> Will there be any driver complications, or does it just need the right kind of SATA connection?
[22:27] <xubuntu51w> Is there a way to use a portion of the harddrive?
[22:27] <knome> if it's broken, you'll want to replace it for good.
[22:27] <xubuntu51w> Ok.
[22:29] <knome> or in other words, it's a bad sign if fsck can't fix it and it keeps giving errors
[22:29] <knome> it should be able to fix ... fixable errors
[22:29] <xubuntu51w> Ok.
[22:30] <xubuntu51w> So is it.. plug and play with the new hardware?
[22:30] <knome> with hard drives, that should be it
[22:30] <xubuntu51w> Or in my case, plug and study?
[22:30] <xubuntu51w> Ok.
[22:31] <xubuntu51w> Thank you much.
[22:35] <xubuntu51w> Checking out.
[23:16] <siim> hi guys!
[23:17] <knome> hello
[23:18] <sathed> Anyone have an idea why my screen would turn off immediately after logging in? It's happening every time my computer locks. It takes 30-40 seconds to get the screen back on.
[23:22] <sathed> I'm running a fresh install of 16.04