[05:52] <bumblehead> hi is there a recommended way to update unity 8 in 16.10?
[05:52] <bumblehead> I would like to use cool new unity 8
[16:40] <mterry> kgunn: do apps launch for you in unity8 snap these days?
[16:43] <kgunn> mterry: i tried yday and yes
[16:43] <kgunn> well...i guess i should modulate that answer....
[16:43] <kgunn> fwiw, i think i launched calculator, calendar
[16:43] <kgunn> browser still crashed (but its a browser bug)
[16:44] <kgunn> mterry: are you finding issue?
[16:44] <mterry> kgunn: awesome...  Good.  So I'm only one so far that has a broken setup.  Makes it hard for me to work on u8 interfaces tho...  I'll try to set up a fresh xenial VM and work in it
[16:44] <mterry> Yeah something happened and now nothing works for me
[16:45] <kgunn> mterry: if you need to play the "what's on your machine" game...i'm available :)
[16:45] <kgunn> mterry: and lemme give it a shot right now just to be sure
[16:45] <mterry> kgunn: Naw I've already tried reinstalling all my snaps to no avail
[16:46] <kgunn> mterry: fwiw http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23905969/
[16:47] <mterry> kgunn: run unity8-snap-install to get latest versions
[16:47] <mterry> kgunn: then retry?
[16:47] <kgunn> sure
[16:47] <kgunn> yeah, realized those might be aged
[16:48] <kgunn> huh, ubuntu-app-platform still latest...
[16:52] <kgunn> wow...this is taking a while
[16:53] <mterry> Lotta app goodness
[17:15] <kgunn> mterry: updated...and now it's terrible, i see no apps in the scope or in the app drawer
[17:15] <kgunn> :(
[17:22] <mterry> kgunn: woah that's worse than I'm seeing
[17:22] <mterry> gotta run to lunch
[18:19] <mterry> tedg_: ^ even worse behavior?  I think it's something different than I'm seeing, but figured you oughta know about
[18:28] <davmor2> kgunn: the apps scope got removed a while ago, jibel reported issues with apps not being visible in the app drawer
[18:40] <dobey> davmor2: the apps scope did not get removed a while ago
[18:41] <dobey> the change in u8 which removes the dependency on it is literally sitting in zesty-proposed right now
[18:43] <dobey> we decided we should remove it, a few weeks ago i guess. but it's only just now actually happening there
[18:43] <davmor2> dobey: it did from snap which is what I thought we were talking about
[18:43] <dobey> davmor2: no it didn't. because unity8 depends on it
[18:43] <dobey> davmor2: it just was always blank in the snap because it was broken
[18:43] <davmor2> dobey: well hidden then
[18:43] <dobey> nope. just blank
[18:44] <dobey> failing to run
[18:44] <dobey> crashing if you will :)
[18:44] <davmor2> dobey: in snaps I only see two scopes music and video
[18:45] <dobey> oh, maybe it actually got dropped out of the snap then when i asked mterry to pull it out of snapcraft.yaml last week, but unity8 still has some dependency on it, so slightly surprised if so.
[18:47] <mterry> dobey: it had a recommends, which I don't think the snap follows
[18:47] <mterry> I believe when it was dropped from snapcraft.yaml, it was dropped from the snap
[18:47] <dobey> ah ok
[18:47] <dobey> well hopefully soon we can drop it from the archive too
[18:50] <mterry> Dropping code always feels nice
[18:53] <jibel> kgunn, yeah, if you reboot sometimes the drawer is partially populated, sometimes completely empty, sometimes correct, it depends on the direction of the wind apparently
[19:14] <mterry> :(  snappy stuff ideally has less variables