[06:19] <nsnzero> morning all
[06:29] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:29] <paddatrapper> morning inetpro, nsnzero 
[07:34] <thatgraemeguy> morning all
[07:39] <chesedo> morning thatgraemeguy and all others
[08:19] <nsnzero> spent some time reading through c++ tutorials ... but spent even more time trying to get a perfect theme on geany ...
[08:23] <chesedo> nsnzero: so what have you tried/coded yet?
[08:26] <theblazehen> hi all
[08:34] <nsnzero> chesedo: just messing around with the tutorial stuff - basics but i can now i can edit geany and gtk2 themes to my preference 
[08:44] <jerit> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tar.png
[08:51] <chesedo> hi theblazehen
[09:01] <theblazehen> jerit Is it just me, or are the tar commands not that bad?
[09:02] <jerit> theblazehen: hell if I know... I hardly use them
[09:02] <theblazehen> Ah
[09:02] <theblazehen> http://xkcd2.com/1168/ alt text as well
[09:15] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: they always make sense to me... 
[09:31] <theblazehen> paddatrapper glad I'm not alone
[09:32] <paddatrapper> c for Create x for eXtract
[09:36] <theblazehen> Hell, `tar --help`
[09:36] <theblazehen> Even bsdtar has that
[09:37] <theblazehen> Ah. Wait. "Unix". Hmm. Dunno if they all have it, or exactly how are they counting *unix*
[09:37] <theblazehen> Ah wait. Rob's just a unix admin, but it _may_ not be a Unix system, but some other *nix or even Linux
[09:45] <nsnzero> i had to keep a small notebook to jot down all the arguments and examples of most linux commands
[09:56] <paddatrapper> I let maintainers and developers create mine - it's called man :)
[09:57] <paddatrapper> actually --help is more helpful usually... I just need the highlights
[10:00] <nsnzero> after 2 months using the terminal  i had to get a bigger book ....
[10:04] <nsnzero> paddatrapper: i install lots of little cli programs - easy to forget they are there , so i make a little note of them in my book ...  helps me in the long run 
[10:08] <paddatrapper> nsnzero: yeah fully understand that 
[10:15] <andrewlsd> Mornings all inetpro jerit nsnzero nuvolari_ paddatrapper superfly thatgraemeguy theblazehen chesedo
[10:15] <andrewlsd> And those to whom I still need to introduce myself :-)
[10:17] <paddatrapper> Morning andrewlsd
[10:19] <nsnzero> hi andrewlsd 
[11:03] <jerit> not even sure why I'm on IRC today... Today isn't a good day for me and I'm far from even pleasant company right now
[11:03] <chesedo> hi andrewlsd
[11:04]  * chesedo can remember `tar -zxfv <tar file>` of the top of his head
[11:04] <andrewlsd> \o
[11:04] <andrewlsd> chesedo:  with the "-" or without it.  methinks unix tar doesn't want  -xzf file it wants tar xzf file
[11:07] <chesedo> this example has them with the '-' -> https://kb.iu.edu/d/acfi
[11:08] <chesedo> Tape ARchives = tar
[11:08]  * chesedo never knew that
[11:12] <paddatrapper> andrewlsd: it doesn't matter which way round you do it. As far as I remember it follows Unix spec or something... 
[16:33] <andrewlsd> (it seems quiet)
[17:22]  * nlsthzn lurks in the shadows
[17:29] <superfly> ohi
[18:10] <nlsthzn> sup superfly , how's Trumpville?
[18:10] <superfly> nlsthzn: largely the same as it was when it was Obamaville
[18:12] <nlsthzn> I guess you have about the same experience under both of them :p
[18:12] <nlsthzn> in your limited time there I mean :)
[18:13] <superfly> nlsthzn: I'd rather live in Trumpville than where you are though ;-)
[18:14] <nlsthzn> dunno, I have no experience in the US to compare
[18:15] <nlsthzn> but who knows what the future holds :) - with the oil price like it is things are getting... tight 
[18:24] <nlsthzn> but other than that superfly all well? Family happy?
[18:26] <superfly> nlsthzn: yep, we're happy. I'm job hunting, but in our spare time we are doing a few things... yesterday we went to the zoo
[18:26] <superfly> I went to an installfest with the AZLoCo on Saturday too.
[18:37] <nlsthzn> nice
[18:37] <nlsthzn> gl with the job search
[20:24] <smile> bye :)