[00:00] <P3R4> hello
[00:00] <P3R4> can i ask >?
[00:00] <P3R4> i have a proplem in msfconsole and armitage
[00:01] <P3R4> he say to me
[00:01] <P3R4> handler failed to bind to **31.212.161:4444
[00:01] <P3R4> how i fix it> ?
[00:02] <Ben64> what OS are you running
[00:02] <genii> Maybe ask the metasploit people
[00:02] <P3R4> backbox linux
[00:03] <k1l_> !backbox | P3R4
[00:20] <MarcoP> how to install libmysqlclient.18.dylib on ubuntu
[00:20] <MarcoP> i dont see it
[00:22] <nacc> MarcoP: what is a .dylib file?
[00:22] <MarcoP> dunno lol
[00:22] <MarcoP> hang on
[00:22] <Bashing-om> !find libmysqlclient.18.dylib xenial
[00:22] <MarcoP> oops i was wrong
[00:22] <MarcoP> Depends: libmysqlclient18 (>=5.5.13-1)
[00:22] <MarcoP> this is the error I get when I try to install ossec on ubuntu
[00:23] <nacc> MarcoP: that package is only available on 12.04 and 14.04
[00:23] <MarcoP> oh
[00:23] <nacc> MarcoP: if you are trying to do this on 16.04, you'd need to find a PPA or ask ossec to update to a more recent mysql base
[00:23] <MarcoP> well i guess ossec is no good on 16.10 then?
[00:23] <MarcoP> well I have the ossec ppa up
[00:23] <k1l_> MarcoP: please put all the output onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[00:23] <MarcoP> and I used synaptic package amanger and I got that error
[00:24] <MarcoP> well its only one line k1l_ : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (>=5.5.13-1) but it is not installable
[00:24] <MarcoP> thats all I get
[00:24] <k1l_> MarcoP: please show "apt-cache policy ossec libmysqlclient18"
[00:24] <MarcoP> apparently that is not available on the newest ubuntu
[00:26] <MarcoP> libmysqlclient18:
[00:26] <MarcoP>   Installed: (none)
[00:26] <MarcoP>   Candidate: (none)
[00:26] <MarcoP>   Version table:
[00:26] <MarcoP> N: Ignoring file '20auto-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[00:26] <MarcoP> N: Unable to locate package ossec
[00:26] <k1l_> MarcoP: please use paste.ubuntu.com for that
[00:27] <MarcoP> i don't think that package is available on newer ubuntu I think that is the issue
[00:28] <tripkin> Have I done something wrong has the ablility to resize 'files' and 'gedit' windows been disabled in 16.04?
[00:28] <Ben64> no
[00:28] <k1l_> MarcoP: 16.10 has libmysqlclient20 in the repos. so your 3rd party program wants outdated software that ubunut doesnt ship anymore
[00:29] <MarcoP> if I add the program you think it will work?
[00:29] <ivanskie> I've opened up two ports and have sshd listen on both of these. i've ran nmap on other local machine and both of these ports show as open.
[00:29] <MarcoP> probably not?
[00:29] <tripkin> Sorry, forgot the or in that question...
[00:29] <MarcoP> im suprised ossec is outdated like that
[00:29] <ivanskie> I've opened up two ports and have sshd listen on both of these. i've ran nmap on other local machine and both of these ports show as open.
[00:29] <ivanskie> from outside... nmap says filtered.
[00:30] <ivanskie> i don't understand. it doesnt matter what port i say, as long as it points to my ubuntu box.. its filtered. as soon as i change the nat redirect ip to another local machine with ssh.. it works.
[00:30] <nacc> MarcoP: what PPA are you using?
[00:30] <ivanskie> ufw is inactive, iptables is empty
[00:31] <MarcoP> nacc http://ossec.wazuh.com/repos/apt/ubuntu precise main
[00:31] <nacc> MarcoP: so you're specifically installing a precise package on yakkety?
[00:31] <k1l_> MarcoP: you know what the "precise" stands for?
[00:31] <nacc> MarcoP: you need to stop and think first.
[00:31] <MarcoP> rofl
[00:31] <MarcoP> oop
[00:32] <MarcoP> well they need to update their website lol
[00:32] <nacc> http://ossec.wazuh.com/repos/apt/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[00:32] <_28_ria> Hello, I've just discovered, that 'apt' doesn't keep packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/, it removes them right after installation?!
[00:32] <_28_ria> Is it true?
[00:32] <MarcoP> thanks kek
[00:32] <k1l_> MarcoP: no. you need to think and not just copy and paste
[00:32] <nacc> MarcoP: they have a yakkety version which you should use
[00:32] <_28_ria> or am I missing something?
[00:32] <MarcoP> k1l_, well I went to the section called ubuntu...it was a mistake .....
[00:32] <MarcoP> get over it
[00:33] <MarcoP> thanks naac
[00:33] <k1l_> MarcoP: its not for me to get over it. its for you not making a mess out of your system. but its your system, good luck with it.
[00:33] <tripkin> Ah, got it. It was the Ambience theme causing my problems.
[00:33] <k1l_> _28_ria: did you run any clean commands?
[00:33] <MarcoP> k1l_, well its all they had on the ubuntu section..so get a life loser
[00:33] <tatertots> ivanskie: does it work if the system in question is dmz'd?
[00:34] <ivanskie> good question.
[00:34] <k1l_> MarcoP: insulting me will not make it better for your system. installing packages for 12.04 because you only copy and paste is the issue. not me.
[00:34] <_28_ria> k1l_: No, and even immediately after installation, archives dir doesn't have any files in it.
[00:35] <tatertots> ivanskie: if you don't know the answer to that question, your next step should be to find out.
[00:35] <CodeMouse92__> MarcoP: k1l_ is right. It isn't a matter of attacking you. Installing a 12.04 package in 16.10 is like filling a car tank with coal, to oversimplify the anaology
[00:36] <ivanskie> yeah i'm about to try testing this
[00:36] <k1l_> _28_ria: iirc apt runs  the clean command after the install is completed. yes
[00:37] <CodeMouse92__> Each Ubuntu distro has technical differences that affect how software is built and runs. Installing a package for one distro on another distro can be at best pointless, at worse disasterous.
[00:37] <CodeMouse92__> *disasterous
[00:37] <_28_ria> I have cron script running every 12 mins, that caches any downloaded debs from archives to a centralized lan, then, I've started noticing, that log messages 0 packages copied always, even though, I've installed programs, that consisted of dosens of packages. I've looked in archives and and it was empty. Searched an entire HDD, it didn't have any *.deb s in it.
[00:37] <nacc> tbh, i think MarcoP just made a mistake, it's ok
[00:40] <_28_ria> k1l_: I recently started to use apt, because, I liked, how it shows progress bar and colors, etc. So, I've finally decided to test to install some package with 'apt-get' and the package appeared in archives folder, so I've discovered, that apt removes them after install. Too bad. I will stop using apt, than.
[00:41] <k1l_> _28_ria: i was just looking at the manpages, but i guess its a  config setting.
[00:41] <_28_ria> k1l_: Too bad, I didn't know about it before, because, I've just now noticed about this behaviour, after downloading/installing Gigabytes of packages. So much traffic was wasted. I am pissed.
[00:43] <k1l_> _28_ria: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man5/apt.conf.5.html  i guess that is some setting there. if you are interested have a look
[00:44] <_28_ria> k1l_: Yes, thanx. I will try to solve this. I don't like it as a default behaviour.
[00:47] <MarcoP> nacc I got i downloaded thanks
[00:47] <MarcoP> it
[00:57] <pos> multiple vulnerabilities in tcpdump: CVE-2016-7922, CVE-2016-7923, CVE-2016-7924, CVE-2016-7925, CVE-2016-7926, CVE-2016-7927, CVE-2016-7928, CVE-2016-7929, CVE-2016-7930, CVE-2016-7931, CVE-2016-7932, CVE-2016-7933, CVE-2016-7934, CVE-2016-7935, CVE-2016-7936, CVE-2016-7937, CVE-2016-7938, CVE-2016-7939, CVE-2016-7940, CVE-2016-7973, CVE-2016-7974, CVE-2016-7975, CVE-2016-7983, CVE-2016-7984,
[00:57] <pos> CVE-2016-7985, CVE-2016-7986, CVE-2016-7992, CVE-2016-7993, CVE-2016-8574, CVE-2016-8575, CVE-2017-5202, CVE-2017-5203, CVE-2017-5204, CVE-2017-5205, CVE-2017-5341, CVE-2017-5342, CVE-2017-5482, CVE-2017-5483, CVE-2017-5484, CVE-2017-5485, CVE-2017-5486
[00:58] <Ben64> pos: can you not
[00:59] <k1l_> pos: if there are patches for thos issues, than the security team will patch the ubuntu packages. look at ubuntu.com/usn
[00:59] <pos> oh, I'm sorry. there is a root RCE vuln in a package and I listed the CVEs
[00:59] <pos> k1l_, there are, debian fixed this almost a week ago
[00:59] <Ben64> pos: you keep coming in here and pasting a bunch of CVEs, I'm not sure what you think that accomplishes
[00:59] <k1l_> pos: use the cve tracker on the site i mentioned
[01:00] <wedgie> debian released patches Sunday. Give it a few days
[01:00] <pos> yesterday I came in here and reminded you that there were multiple vulns in openssl
[01:00] <Ben64> this isn't the place for that
[01:00] <nacc> pos: this is the support channel, not the developer channel, and the security team is presumably aware
[01:00] <k1l_> pos: this is the community support channnel. canonical got a security team. use the site i linked to get to know the status of cves.
[01:00] <pos> new openssl packages arrived today, as to whether this is a result of me nagging I don't know
[01:00] <k1l_> pos: no its not.
[01:00] <nacc> pos: it's not.
[01:01] <theskilltest> i setup znc on my ubuntu box, but i go to https://ip:port that i set it up to, and it doesn't connect
[01:01] <k1l_> theskilltest: dont use https to connect
[01:02] <theskilltest> ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[01:02] <k1l_> use just ip:port.
[01:02] <theskilltest> it must be firewall
[01:02] <k1l_> theskilltest: homenetwork?
[01:02] <theskilltest> its a linode vps
[01:02] <wedgie> or the service isn't acutally running. ''sudo netstat -tnl''   do you see the port listening?
[01:03] <wedgie> theskilltest: ^^
[01:03] <theskilltest> https://i.imgur.com/VTOy3oJ.png
[01:03] <theskilltest> 5678, yep i know its running cuz it connected to some irc channels
[01:04] <k1l_> pos: if you find a cve not already tracked there file a bugreport and link the cve there.
[01:04] <pos> k1l_, i've tested ten of them, none seem to be tracked
[01:04] <dax> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tcpdump.html begs to differ
[01:04] <pos> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/?pkg=tcpdump lists nothing for me
[01:04] <theskilltest> hmmm tcp6?
[01:04] <tatertots> theskilltest: make sure accessing a GUI/x is included in the linode plan you have....    :)
[01:05] <dax> the security team, unsurprisingly, keeps track of pending CVEs. they do not particularly need someone manually keeping track of something they are doing automatically
[01:05] <theskilltest> a gui? the znc you access it just by ip:port via web browser
[01:06] <k1l_> theskilltest: did you try to restart znc to make sure it uses the correct state of config?
[01:08] <theskilltest> interesting.  sudo service znc restart Failed to restart znc.service: Unit znc.service not found.
[01:09] <theskilltest> but its running somehow, lol its idling in channels as we speak
[01:09] <theskilltest> https://i.imgur.com/bdbzI66.png
[01:10] <k1l_> theskilltest: wait, that is only listening on ipv6 on that port
[01:10] <theskilltest> yea that would be a problem i think
[01:10] <Ben64> check with nmap
[01:12] <k1l_> theskilltest: look at your znc config
[01:12] <theskilltest> 4 and 6 were set to true, so im now setting ipv6 to false
[01:13] <k1l_> if you set listener6 than it will only use ipv6
[01:14] <theskilltest> how do i kill this znc process so i can start it again
[01:14] <theskilltest> pkill or something
[01:14] <wedgie> does it not have a startup script? ''sudo sytemctl restart znc.service'' or something lik ethat?
[01:15] <theskilltest> nope, i guess that part isn't setup
[01:15] <k1l_> didnt you use the repo package?
[01:16] <theskilltest> i used apt-get znc
[01:17] <theskilltest> then i ran znc --makeconf
[01:17] <theskilltest> BOOM tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5678            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[01:18] <theskilltest> but still ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[01:18] <theskilltest> its got to be iptables or something
[01:18] <Ben64> check with nmap
[01:20] <theskilltest> nmap https://i.imgur.com/fkSIjk5.png
[01:21] <Ben64> you know, paste.ubuntu.com exists
[01:21] <Ben64> and there you go, port closed
[01:21] <theskilltest> how do i open the port, these iptable commands are confusing
[01:22] <theskilltest> i tried iptables -A
[01:22] <Ben64> closed means nothing is listening on that port
[01:22] <theskilltest> hmm but thats not what sudo netstat -tnl is saying on the server
[01:23] <wedgie> or that it is being rejected by a firewall
[01:23] <Ben64> wedgie: that'd be "filtered"
[01:23] <wedgie> Ben64: there's a difference between -j DROP and -j REJECT. REJECT results in "connection refused"
[01:24] <k1l_> theskilltest: are you sure the pw you use is correct for znc? did you check the config?
[01:24] <theskilltest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23902794/
[01:24] <wedgie> theskilltest: what does ''sudo iptables -L'' show?
[01:24] <k1l_> theskilltest: http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ#Why_do_I_get_an_.22Incorrect_Password.22_every_time_I_connect_even_though_my_pass_is_correct.3F
[01:25] <theskilltest> wedgie http://paste.ubuntu.com/23902797/
[01:26] <wedgie> theskilltest: ok, the problem is that the ACCEPT rules for 5678 are after the REJECT rules for everything
[01:27] <theskilltest> does this iptables live in a file somewhere i can rearrage
[01:28] <wedgie> yes, but i'm having trouble finding out where... one sec
[01:31] <theskilltest> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/146349/move-iptables-rule-w-o-removing-and-adding
[01:31] <wedgie> theskilltest: there they are. Seems to be in /etc/ufw
[01:33] <wedgie> my goodness, for being the "Uncomplicated FireWall" they sure didn't make this straightforward
[01:34] <litupbrains> hey guys..this is a kali linux question..=)..what is a release file?and how do i get one..?my apt-get update isn't updating the repo..
[01:35] <xangua> litupbrains: this is no Kali channel
[01:35] <pc_> thunderbird mail works with protonmail? i tried and failed.
[01:35] <xangua> And last I knew Kali was abandonware
[01:36] <theskilltest> BOOM working =]
[01:36] <litupbrains> xangua: yeah just thought id try though..if anyone could help me, do pm..thanks in advance..cheers to all!=)
[01:36] <wedgie> xangua: when did that happen?
[01:36] <xangua> wedgie: no idea? Who cares? This is #Ubuntu?
[01:37] <wedgie> xangua: sure, but not need to give misinformation.
[01:37] <wedgie> litupbrains: they do have their own channel
[01:38] <xangua> pc_: don't know about proto mail, Thunderbird works fine with my Gmail/IMAP setup
[01:38] <pc_> I see, thank you.
[01:38] <pc_> i will stick with the browser.
[01:47] <pc_> i really appreciate startup disk creator
[01:47] <pc_> is it compatible with all linux distros or exclusive to ubnutu flavors?
[01:48] <KB3216755> im not sure its compatible with ubnutu
[01:49] <pc_> I should learn the terminal way.
[01:50] <KB3216755> im blackbelt at the terminal ways
[01:50] <pc_> Sweet! can you teach me?
[01:50] <KB3216755> i could but it will cost you
[01:51] <pc_> i will offer my soul.
[01:51] <pc_> just kidding
[01:51] <wafflejock> dd I just saved you nothing ;)
[01:52] <pc_> I want to take linux lessons once i can afford it.
[01:53] <jamie_1> how do i check how much graphics memory i have?
[01:53] <KB3216755> you can pay with sweat and tears
[01:53] <tatertots> jamie_1: can you open terminal?
[01:53] <jamie_1> tatertots: yeah already have one open
[01:53] <pc_> I dont sweat or cry
[01:53] <adrian_1908> I actually think GUI tools are a good choice for messing with media formatting. On the command line, a brainfart can be made quite easily.
[01:54] <tatertots> jamie_1: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[01:54] <KB3216755> then you will fail
[01:54] <tatertots> jamie_1: let me know when it's completed
[01:54] <pc_> but why!
[01:54] <jamie_1> tatertots: what is inxi pastebinit?
[01:54] <jamie_1> i dont like to stall s
[01:54] <jamie_1> stuff i dont know what is
[01:54] <wafflejock> jamie_1, pastebinit is for putting stuff from terminal output to pastebin and gives you a URL
[01:54] <wafflejock> !info inxi
[01:54] <tatertots> jamie_1: i will inform you of what they both are ...standby
[01:55] <pc_> KB3216755, do you use ubuntu phone?
[01:55] <tatertots> jamie_1: inxi - full featured system information script
[01:55] <jamie_1> tatertots: just looked it up
[01:55] <tatertots> jamie_1: pastebinit - command-line pastebin client
[01:55] <KB3216755> no but i use linux phone
[01:56] <pc_> uh android?
[01:56] <tatertots> jamie_1: let me know when it's completed
[01:56] <jamie_1> tatertots: sorry i like check what im installing
[01:56] <tatertots> jamie_1: :)
[01:56] <tatertots> jamie_1: let me know when it's completed
[01:57] <KB3216755> apt-get update seems broken on my linux phone
[01:57] <jamie_1> tatertots: also im on intell graphics so i dont know how well its going to check lol, see as itel has dynamic grapics memory allocation
[01:57] <pene> hello
[01:57] <pene> oenis
[01:57] <jamie_1> tatertots: its done
[01:57] <pene> I am Top Manias
[01:57] <tatertots> jamie_1: in terminal>       inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[01:57] <pene> I am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top Manias
[01:57] <pene> I am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top Manias
[01:57] <pene> I am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top ManiasI am Top Manias
[01:57] <tatertots> jamie_1: press enter         share url/link here
[01:57] <tatertots> jamie_1: don't worry..nothing unique to your person is in the link
[01:58] <tatertots> jamie_1: :)
[01:58] <KB3216755> can someone make sure pene is really dead?
[01:58] <tn5421> seems pretty dead to me
[01:58] <pc_> wow lol
[01:58] <pc_> why are you mad at him?
[01:58] <kspencer> because spam
[01:58] <jamie_1> tatertots: you want the grapics section right?
[01:58] <tatertots> jamie_1: i said share the url/link here
[01:59] <tatertots> jamie_1: didn't ask you to do any filtering, i would have asked you to do that if it was needed
[01:59] <KB3216755> i just wanna make sure that when i teabag him he doesnt bite my balls off
[01:59] <jamie_1> tatertots: yeah... little more on there than im willing to fully paste
[02:00] <tatertots> jamie_1: if that makes you paranoid you don't even wanna know where to find your video memory lol...you better run along and find something else to focus on or do your own homework/research on google
[02:00] <KB3216755> jamie_1: you got something to hide?
[02:01] <jamie_1> KB3216755: no i just dont feel like sharing everything about my system
[02:01] <tatertots> jamie_1: that's understandable.
[02:02] <KB3216755> i always say if you got something worth hiding you probably got something worth find out
[02:02] <tatertots> good luck with your search
[02:02] <pc_> ubuntu is missing a cinnamon flavor..
[02:02] <tatertots> or should i say study/homework lol
[02:04] <jamie_1> really tatertots a second ago you were telling me to run along and do my homework... lol
[02:04] <jamie_1> not some little girl playing around with linux XD
[02:05] <jamie_1> getting a direct answer to what your allocated grapics memory while using a intel grapics card with no-dedicated memory isnt just pull up your specs
[02:06] <KB3216755> you need to dig in to the proc folder
[02:06] <tatertots> jamie_1: then you shouldn't have to study long to find what you seek then right?
[02:06] <jamie_1> Yeah, tatertots its not listed in there, in the grapics section there is nothing about allocated memory
[02:07] <tatertots> jamie_1: you can find it by issuing a single command lol..but since you wanna be smart arsed...you'll find it on your own lol :)
[02:07] <tatertots> onions have layers...random fact
[02:07] <pc_> ok, I cant delete skype of off my pc any ideas?
[02:08] <KB3216755> dont you love it that this channel is logged so that future generations will be able to read it say likw 1000 years from now
[02:08] <jamie_1> really tatertots you were the one telling me to run off and do my homework
[02:09] <KB3216755> just writing in here makes me imortal
[02:09] <buttersticks> shot in the dark. but i tab complete the directory so i know it exists http://pastebin.com/raw/61ej1mVL
[02:09] <pc_> if people want privacy and security why's this chat logged?
[02:10] <KB3216755> security reasons
[02:10] <pc_> lol, such as?
[02:11] <KB3216755> security and privacy are enemies of each others
[02:11] <KB3216755> just ask the FBI
[02:12] <pc_> pass
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> I'd rather not
[02:12] <buttersticks> pc_, more importantly why would u think its not logged. anyone can log on irc? or forums online
[02:12] <KB3216755> thing is you dont need to
[02:12] <Ben64> !ot | everyone
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> Their answer would probably be, "Why are you calling us?"
[02:12] <KB3216755> they have explaind it countless times
[02:13] <jamie_1> and tatertots i found what it is currently, but the max is 1gb less than your current ram unless specficied otherwise in the bios, i just wanted to know current use which is 256.
[02:13] <pc_> buttersticks, im wondering because most people i know are moving to linux because they want privacy and no evidence of them on the internet lol
[02:13] <pc_> but yea i obviously don't know everything. just wondering why is it logged when it's against what people want.
[02:13] <buttersticks> lol but your friends use smartphones lol
[02:14] <KB3216755> its the new age of paranoia
[02:14] <Ben64> KB3216755, pc_, buttersticks: take this elsewhere
[02:14] <pc_> most dont or use flip phones
[02:14] <buttersticks> Ben64, im just waiting for a reply
[02:14] <KB3216755> pc_: is an expert at paranoia
[02:15] <Ben64> buttersticks: you're contributing to offtopic stuff
[02:15] <pc_> im not KB3216755 . and ok ben64
[02:15] <KB3216755> yes you are dont sell yourself short
[02:15] <pc_>  fine you got me.
[02:16] <KB3216755> p'robablly one of them AI experts
[02:16] <pc_> that's something i want to get into.
[02:17] <BlueProtoman> When I install an application that uses Qt locally, it looks really ugly and distorted.  http://picpaste.com/pics/PvioWeqF.1485915335.png  But when I install it from a package manager, it looks fine.  http://picpaste.com/pics/ABjFOa4Y.1485915421.png  What gives?
[02:17] <KB3216755> Advanced Interrogation
[02:17] <BlueProtoman> (This is Ubuntu 16.10)
[02:17] <pc_> not that.
[02:17] <buttersticks> i love when moderators are gungho about 'enforcing' but not answering Ben64
[02:17] <KB3216755> thats what AI stands for
[02:18] <Ben64> KB3216755, pc_ : take it to PM or something, stop filling this channel with nonsense
[02:18] <KB3216755> you seem very good at it
[02:18] <Ben64> buttersticks: maybe  because i can't even see what you asked since there's a flood of crap in the way
[02:19] <KB3216755> imagine a tirless interrogation machine you would spill your guts just earing its name
[02:20] <pc_> my bad ben64
[02:22] <majac777> i've got a question please..
[02:22] <pc_> ask away
[02:22] <KB3216755> dont ask to ask
[02:23] <majac777> I am wanting to install virtual box and VBoxGuestAdditions, but it does not seem to be included in Ubuntu repositories.
[02:23] <majac777> I tried: sudo apt-get install virtualbox.
[02:23] <nacc> !info virtualbox | majac777
[02:23] <nacc> majac777: you need to enable multiverse
[02:23] <nacc> !info components | majac777
[02:24] <nacc> !components | majac777
[02:24] <majac777> and the response was: Package virtualbox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:24] <majac777> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:24] <majac777> is only available from another source
[02:24] <cocomo_> hi, I pressed ctrl-alt-f2 to get into tty how do i go back to gui?
[02:25] <wedgie> cocomo_: ctrl alt F7
[02:25] <cocomo_> wedgie: thanks i try.
[02:25] <wedgie> F1-6 are TTYs, and F7 is usually X (sometimes F8 on some systems)
[02:26] <JohnDoe2> hello there, does anyone know what this says? "This was due to a .bashrc file present in the home dir and set to giving output." -- it's about using SFTP and .bashrc failing/closing the connection. Context: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/strange-scp-error-and-fail-664945/
[02:27] <KB3216755> im making an AI so advanced that can convince a jew to gladlly vote for hitler
[02:27] <Ben64> !ops
[02:27] <nacc> KB3216755: you've been told multiple times, take it to offtopic (although even that is offtopic there)
[02:27] <nacc> Ben64: fair enough :)
[02:27] <Ben64> yeah it's about time
[02:28] <Ben64> back to our regularly scheduled program
[02:32] <F4llout> Hi, is there an official fix for the disk encryption login not working when using proprietary drivers?
[02:33] <F4llout> for now i have removed the quiet splash from 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT' which removes the splash screen and instead you input the encrpytion key in a standard text screen
[02:34] <F4llout> Was just wondering if any of you have any other fixes/experience with the problem
[02:37] <Beau4K> F4llout: wrong channel ask in the proper proprietary drivers channel
[02:38] <F4llout> whats the channel name mate?
[02:39] <Beau4K> you should know what drivers you are using
[02:39] <JohnDoe2> what does scp/openssh say here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23903051/ What does read<=0 rfd 4 len 0 mean? why is it so hard to include a human readable error message? "I can't read the damn file, my connection dropped" or... "I dropped the connection and I have no idea why I did so because my developers have not met this situation before"
[02:39] <Beau4K> m8
[02:40]  * Sean_McG headdesks
[02:41] <hggdh> JohnDoe2: pretty much"read failed or EOF. I understand your frustration, but please go complain with the developers of ssh
[02:41] <F4llout> yes i know what drivers i am using, does not mean i automatically know what irc channel to go to though?
[02:41] <JohnDoe2> alright, I'll go complain.
[02:41] <Beau4K> yes
[02:42] <JohnDoe2> you wouldn't happen to know what its problem is, though, would you?
[02:42] <tfitts> Does anyone know what needs to be done to correctly partition an NVMe drive to optimize performance?
[02:42] <F4llout> ???
[02:43] <Sean_McG> I doubt there are any performance-enhancing partition schemes
[02:43] <F4llout> cant tell if you are trolling or not beau4k
[02:44] <Beau4K> Sean_McG:  if you have 254 megas of ram a swap partition can greatlly enhance your computers preformance
[02:44] <Sean_McG> Beau4K: you sir, are full of it.
[02:44] <Beau4K> Sean_McG: thats was uncalled for
[02:46] <tfitts> http://askubuntu.com/questions/698395/poor-io-performance-pcie-nvme-samsung-950-pro mentions making sure the starting block on the partition is divisible by 4096.  Not sure where to do that
[02:46] <craigbass76> I've just mixed a project down in ardour. What's the best way to get it from wav to mp3? I need to stick it somewhere for the singer to grab it, and wav is too big
[02:47] <Beau4K> tfitts: Gparted takes care of that for you
[02:47] <waltman> I just ran sudo apt upgade; sudo apt upgrade and installed a few packages. About a minute later a window popped up saying I needed to update a few other packages apt hadn't listed, including nautilus and firefox. Then it said I needed to reboot.
[02:48] <Beau4K> craigbass76:  you need to install libmad
[02:48] <Beau4K> from the universe repo
[02:48] <waltman> Two questions: 1) Why do I need to reboot if there's not a new kernel? 2) Why don't I see the second group of packages in the apt logs?
[02:49] <waltman> Also why do new packages sometimes appear in a popup window instead of just appearing when I run apt from the shell?
[02:49] <Beau4K> craigbass76: you should use ogg has its in line with freesoftware principles
[02:50] <Beau4K> craigbass76: http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-ogg
[02:52] <cynicist> quit
[02:55] <craigbass76> Beau4K: not a problem for me, but this guy's a non-computer geek singer. Not sure what device he'll be checking with, and what it will read. When he comes over Thursday I'll just send him home with a cd, but I wanted to give him a listen ahead of time
[02:56] <Beau4K> convert to aac
[02:56] <Beau4K> im sure your friend being a musician uses apple
[02:57] <Beau4K> aac gives better compression that mp3
[02:59] <Beau4K> even 64kbps sounds goodish
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[03:11] <CasualNixUser> anyone know how to convert hevc 10bit without loss to x264 every file in a particular folder through terminal?
[03:13] <CasualNixUser> ive got all the codecs installed
[03:13] <CasualNixUser> including ffmpeg
[03:15] <wudo_honour> hi\
[03:16] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: if you've got the ffmpeg command down for 1 file, you can make a loop to do all of them
[03:16] <wudo_honour> how can I make up bond0 with eth0,eth1 in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[03:16] <CasualNixUser> can you show me how to do it the command and loop?
[03:19] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: well, the ffmpeg command will probably be something like this: ffmpeg -i SOURCE_FILE -c:v libx264 -preset ??? -tune animation -c:a copy DESTINATION_FILE
[03:20] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: where preset is dependent on how long you want this to take (slower is generally higher quality) and SOURCE and DESTINATION need to be what the original file is called and what you want the converted file to be called
[03:20] <wedgie> (also, i'm asuming this is anime because i've never seen anything else use 10bit :P)
[03:21] <CasualNixUser> yea basicallly its just my android tv doesnt have hevc support
[03:21] <Beau4K> some porn uses 10bit
[03:21] <CasualNixUser> so for 0 loss what would you put for preset/
[03:21] <PhantomPhreak53> I have a new ubuntu 16.04 server that I am going to be using as an FTP server. I want when I type adduser user. It creates there home directory to be root:root and create a folder called upload. What is the best way to achieve this? Can i just put a chown command in an existing script
[03:22] <craigbass76> Beau4K: Nope, he's a singer and a lumber salesman. Probably got an iPhone and maybe an XP box at home. lame -h bass_drums_rhythm.wav bass_drums_rhythm.mp3 did it for me.
[03:22] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: so start from that and see if it does what you want. And if it does, head over to #bash to see about putting it in a loop. Make sure to specify precisely what the original files are named like, and what you want the resulting files to be named
[03:22] <_28_ria> k1l_: After reading of many mans and searching on the inet, didn't find any help, except for many people, having the same problem. None of the answers to them worked (I've tried). Also, I've looked through options in all of apt.conf.d/ files Tried changing some params, but didn't help. Stumbled upon a command: 'apt-config dump'.
[03:23] <Beau4K> craigbass76: iphone plays aac just fine
[03:23] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: you can read over this https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/H.264   I myself typically use "slower", but i'm not sure if that is lossless
[03:23] <craigbass76> Beau4K: Is there an open source phone yet?
[03:23] <CasualNixUser> i would use ifme but im running ubuntu in vm while the actual os im running is arch and i think it would be bit to slow on vm to use ifme
[03:23] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: i'm usually going the other way... old xvid or divx to h264 since my kodi machine doesn't have support for the older stuff but does for h264
[03:23] <_28_ria> k1l_: Looks like, it dumps all the configs, currently set, in a normalized facion. Looked through all of them. Found this option: 'Binary::apt::APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages "0"'
[03:23] <craigbass76> Sounded like Ubuntu was "kind of" scrapping it
[03:24] <Beau4K> ubuntu phone is kinda opensource
[03:24] <Beau4K> but still uses blob
[03:24] <craigbass76> A banker fried was telling me firefox phone were closer to being adopted in the US than the ubuntu one, but I stopped paying attention
[03:24] <Beau4K> drivers
[03:25] <craigbass76> All mine does is text, make calls, and read twitter, so I don't much care what the OS is
[03:25] <CasualNixUser> i did try to do use yaourt -S ifme but ya its not there lol only windows and ubuntu
[03:25] <craigbass76> But I would rather an Ubuntu phone than Android
[03:25] <CasualNixUser> how much slower would it be in vm ubuntu to convert?
[03:25] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: not much difference i wouldn't think. Depening on how many cpu's you gave to the VM, of course
[03:26] <wedgie> more cpus = faster conversion
[03:26] <Beau4K> CasualNixUser: way would you need ubuntu on a vm?
[03:27] <CasualNixUser> because ifme is easier to use than ffmpeg command line but there is no package made for arch and there is for windows and ubuntu
[03:27] <hggdh> PhantomPhreak53: why would you want to use FTP and create root-owned files?
[03:27] <Beau4K> theres no ffmpeg in arch?
[03:27] <hggdh> PhantomPhreak53: real bad move, security-wise
[03:27] <CasualNixUser> there is
[03:27] <CasualNixUser> i have that installed
[03:27] <bickolus> i never come
[03:27] <bickolus> me too lol
[03:28] <CasualNixUser> but im talking about this program with a nice gui called ifme
[03:28] <bickolus> dont play it
[03:28] <CasualNixUser> ofc arch has ffmepg i have the full pack installed
[03:28] <bickolus> gimp it
[03:28] <bickolus> oops
[03:28] <bickolus> on the way
[03:29] <Beau4K> just copy the command line from the gui program and run it on arch
[03:30] <CasualNixUser> didnt think of that LOL
[03:30] <bickolus> idid
[03:31] <Beau4K> or you could use this
[03:31] <Beau4K> http://video.online-convert.com
[03:31] <bickolus> icouldi
[03:31] <bickolus> ill;' come
[03:32] <_28_ria> k1l_: That option wasn't in apt.conf* files, so I've added it to apt.conf with parameter 1, then checked with command apt-config dump, saw, that it changed there to "1", tested installing some package with 'apt', and it worked! Packages were kept in archives folder.
[03:32] <CasualNixUser> dont think itll let me upload 2gb files each
[03:32] <bickolus> have it
[03:33] <wedgie> CasualNixUser: did the command I gave you not work?
[03:33] <CasualNixUser> i did wonderfully i was just hoping to in the program since it could do it all it once
[03:33] <CasualNixUser> it* did
[03:33] <bickolus> my bad
[03:35] <CasualNixUser> thanks so much wedgie!
[03:35] <CasualNixUser> about to go to lseep thanks again!!
[03:35] <Beau4K> too bad that page cant convert to vp9
[03:36] <bickolus> run
[03:39] <hattrick99> Hello
[03:40] <hattrick99> I accidentally type my password on command line.
[03:40] <rmviewer> Hi!  I used to be able to ssh into one of my servers (outside my network) and then ssh into another local box.  I can't do this anymore.  Any ideas why?  I haven't changed any of the settings on either box.
[03:40] <hattrick99> So i found it in bash_history and deleted the line
[03:40] <hattrick99> but control-r still finds it.. so does up arrow..
[03:40] <hattrick99> how do I remove that?
[03:40] <wedgie> hattrick99: history -c
[03:40] <wedgie> also, it'll probably not show up if you open a new terminal
[03:41] <wedgie> rmviewer: can't do which?
[03:41] <darkhack> hello
[03:41] <darkhack> hello all
[03:41] <rmviewer> Yeah, that wasn't very clear.  I can't ssh tunnel into the 2nd box.  I get `Permission denied (publickey).`
[03:42] <hattrick99> but where is it right now?? i mean.. its somewhere!!
[03:42] <darkhack> asem ge
[03:42] <MarcoP> hattrick99, if you run bleachbit it should find all that...depending on your settings
[03:42] <wedgie> rmviewer: are you forwarding your key agent? ssh -A
[03:42] <rmviewer> I assume that ssh-agent should take care of forwarding the original key for me.
[03:42] <wedgie> rmviewer: only if you use -A or otherwise configure it in your ~/.ssh/config
[03:43] <rmviewer> I never had to -A before.  But that still doesn't work anymore.  My config doesn't disallow agent forwarding.  I'm completely at a loss.
[03:43] <rmviewer> Verified that I can directly ssh into box 2
[03:44] <wedgie> rmviewer: try ssh -v to get some more debug information
[03:46] <milind> Noob here. Is this the right channel to ask for support re display resolutions?
[03:46] <hattrick99> milind its better to just ask your question and see if anyone has any ideas.
[03:46] <darkhack> what the best server os Debian or Ubuntu?
[03:46] <hiexpo> !best
[03:47] <milind> My PC is an Ubuntu 16.10/Win 10 dual boot machine.
[03:47] <milind> Processor:Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz × 2
[03:47] <milind> Graphics: Intel® G33
[03:47] <milind> 2GB Ram
[03:47] <milind> A few days ago the display started turning weird shades of green, though I could still use the computer. The VGA cable seemed to be loose & at fault, so I changed it. After changing, though the colours were back to normal, in both Ubuntu & Windows 10 the maximum resolution shown was 1024*768 @60 Hz, though the Dell LCD monitor's maximum is 1600*900 @60 Hz. In Windows, I could find the higher...
[03:47] <cfhowlett> darkhack, are you trolling us?
[03:47] <milind> ...settings in Advanced Display Settings and get things back to normal. But Ubuntu Settings do not show any resolutions except 800*600, & 1024*768. How can I get the higher resolutions back?
[03:47] <xangua> darkhack: for asking support in the #Ubuntu channel? Ubuntu
[03:47] <rmviewer> @darkhack the one that meets your needs.  I'm not trying to be combative.  It's really personal preference.
[03:48] <pc_> any experts on different distros? please pm me. thanks.
[03:48] <xangua> pc_: you want ##linux
[03:48] <pc_> Thank you
[03:49] <_28_ria> milind: I am not very pro about it, but command line utility xandr should be able to dig into display guts
[03:49] <rmviewer> wedgie: everything looks legit on the connection attempt.  Box 1 connects, matches the known host key.  The only auth method that can continue is publickey.  The server has no public keys so that fails.  I don't see any attempt to use ssh-agent in the output.  Should there be?
[03:50] <milind> _28_ria: Thanks.Will check that.
[03:51] <wedgie> rmviewer: ... is that on the connection that is working or the connection that is not?
[03:52] <rmviewer> wedgie: that's the connection that's not working.  I'm currently ssh'ed into Box 1.  I can't use that ssh session to get into Box 2.
[03:53] <wedgie> rmviewer: if the server has not public keys.... I must be misunderstanding something
[03:55] <hattrick99> rmviewer really sounds like you need agent forwarding on.
[03:56] <rmviewer> wedgie: both server have the same authorized_keys list.  The entire point of this is that I only opened up a single port on my home network which goes to box 1.  I used to use that ssh session to then do "ssh user@192.168.1.222" in order to use my open session to get into multiple boxes at home.  For some reason this stopped working recently.  Neit
[03:56] <rmviewer> her server has any id_rsa file.
[03:56] <hattrick99> you have your keys on your local computer, yes? and no keys on server 1, and want to go local -> server 1 -> server 2
[03:56] <rmviewer> hattrick99: correct.  Used to work.  Stopped working recently without any change from me.  I've been doing it for over a year.
[03:57] <wedgie> rmviewer: given that it should work with agent forwarding (-A). You aren't using screen or tmux, are you?
[03:57] <rmviewer> I guess I could just open up multiple ports, but it still doesn't explain why it stopped working.
[03:57] <wedgie> cause if you are that will mess with the agent forwarding
[03:58] <rmviewer> No, just a normal session.
[03:58] <rmviewer> I'm wondering if something auto-updated.
[03:58] <wedgie> rmviewer: out of curiosity, what happens if you do this: ssh -A -L 2222:box2ip:22 box1user@box1      and then from another terminal (on the local machine) ssh -p 2222 box2user@localhost
[03:59] <hattrick99> or just ssh -A box1 then ssh box2 from box1
[03:59] <pc_> no response there, is there an ubuntu free talk room?
[04:00] <wedgie> hattrick99: that's what he'e been trying
[04:00] <wedgie> !ot
[04:00] <pc_> unable to join the other channel.
[04:01] <wedgie> !register
[04:01] <pc_> Thanks
[04:04] <rmviewer> wedgie: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.106 port 2222: Connection refused
[04:04] <wedgie> rmviewer: that was ssh -p 2222 localhost     (note that localhost should be taken literally here, not substituted)
[04:05] <wedgie> only with the first connection already opened
[04:06] <_28_ria> milind: I've made a typo. It's xrandr, not xandr.
[04:07] <rmviewer> wedgie: Yeah, oops.  Same public key error: Permission denied (publickey).
[04:07] <rmviewer> I would have expected the same.  I'm guessing that ssh-agent is messed up on Box 1
[04:07] <rmviewer> Or not auto starting
[04:08] <wedgie> rmviewer: add the key manually with ssh-add
[04:08] <wedgie> ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa
[04:09] <wedgie> but i assume that you use the key to log into box1, so that probably isn't it
[04:11] <rmviewer> wedgie: yes, same key on both.  The sane thing to do is to just open another port directly to Box 2.
[04:12] <hattrick99> is box 2 up?
[04:12] <rmviewer> hattrick99: yeah, I can ssh into it directly right now.  Just not from Box 1 anymore.
[04:14] <wedgie> rmviewer: very odd. Something must be up with the agent forwarding. Not sure what to suggest beyond that
[04:15] <rmviewer> wedgie: thanks for the suggestions.  That's all I can come up with too.  I don't know what could have happened to the automatic agent forwarding, but it's obviously not working anymore.  At least I have a very solid workaround.
[04:21] <rmviewer> It's definitely messed up.  'ssh-add -k' followed by 'ssh-add -l' shows the agent has no identities
[04:48] <quang> hi
[04:49] <quang> i need to install linux drivers for my wireless dongle
[04:49] <quang> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/commit/
[04:49] <quang> supposidly this is it
[04:49] <quang> but what do i do?
[04:50] <quang> hi
[04:51] <xangua> !info linux-firmware | quang but you haven't really tell us what adapter
[04:53] <quang> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl819x
[04:53] <quang> that is as far as i got about it
[04:54] <quang> i got a eub9603h
[04:54] <quang> is the model number
[04:54] <quang> the brand is senao
[04:55] <quang> i have a usb stick to transfer the files from this computer to the one im trying to install the drivers to
[04:55] <quang> so that computer has no internet access atm
[04:55] <quang> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/EnGenius_EUB9603H
[04:56] <quang> i got there from that page
[04:56] <quang> thats the wireless thing i got
[04:56] <one808> ??
[04:56] <quang> hi
[04:56] <quang> one808
[04:57] <quang> hi xangua
[04:57] <quang> hi ubottu
[04:57] <quang> wait are u bots?
[04:57] <quang> or real?
[04:58] <quang> help
[05:00] <homelessjerry> quang: lol
[05:00] <homelessjerry> quang: what's wrong with your wireless card?
[05:17] <wafflejock> quang, hehe ubottu is a bot xangua we're not quite sure about yet
[05:25] <xangua> quang: wouldn't know sorry, it looks like a very shady dongle, the only thing I can do is recommend you linux compatible hardware https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
[05:26] <tatertots> quang: no way you can hard wire the computer temporarily?
[05:31] <inf0t3ch> Has anybody heard when an updated displaylink driver is going to be released?
[06:13] <Mr_Cyclops> Hi All. I am having trouble configuring chroot config for some SSH users. Is this is the right forum to ask?
[06:13] <Mr_Cyclops> or suggest me a better one please? Thanks
[06:14] <_28_ria> Mr_Cyclops: why not use LXD?
[06:15] <Mr_Cyclops> _28_ria, LXD?
[06:18] <_28_ria> Mr_Cyclops: nevermind, I've realized, that you just want to give ssh connected users an isolated dir. @ 1st, I thought you wanted to give ssh users an isolated environment, which LXD, would be the best choice, but for just an isolated dir, I don't know how to do it. I only did isolated (chrooted) ftp dir.
[06:20] <Mr_Cyclops> np _28_ria thanks for your advice anyway :-) Appreciate it
[06:20] <_28_ria> Mr_Cyclops: You're welcome
[06:24] <the-list1ner> hello everyone , like this #ubuntu do you use slack or telegram groups?
[06:31] <wafflejock> Mr_Cyclops, you might want to try #ubuntu-server
[06:31] <wafflejock> Mr_Cyclops, you can ask here too though didn't really say what the issue was that you ran into?
[06:35] <Mr_Cyclops> thank you wafflejock
[06:49] <the-list1ner> hello everyone , like this #ubuntu do you use slack or telegram groups?
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> the-list1ner: your searching for other channels?
[06:53] <the-list1ner> lotuspsychje:
[06:53] <the-list1ner> lotuspsychje: yes
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !alis | the-list1ner
[06:54] <the-list1ner> lotuspsychje:Thank you
[07:03] <l9> default gw change permantly on ubuntu how?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> l9: gw?
[07:08] <hateball> l9: change it in network-manager
[07:10] <l9> hateball: dont have gui installed
[07:10] <l9> lotuspsychje: gateway == gw
[07:13] <hateball> l9: helps if you clarify that, being that #ubuntu assumes a desktop
[07:13] <hateball> !server
[07:14] <hateball> l9: that said, if you have network-manager on the server, use nmcli, otherwise edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:15] <l9> hateball: i added too the interfaces gateway x.x.x.x
[07:15] <l9> but still after a reboot i get the old gateway
[07:17] <alkisg> l9: what are the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces, and of the command `ip a` ? put them to pastebin
[07:17] <l9> interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/23903966/
[07:18] <l9> ip a
[07:18] <l9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23903969/
[07:18] <alkisg> l9: you need to declare eno1 in /etc/network/interfaces, see an example there: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[07:18] <alkisg> l9: now you just have a gateway for lo, not eno1
[07:20] <l9> alkisg: i probally need too set the ip static too
[07:21] <alkisg> There's an example for that there, too
[07:21] <l9> yes i found it good document thanks :)
[07:22] <l9> is ubuntu and debian so close that one could follow the debian documents?
[07:23] <alkisg> l9: there's this one too: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[07:23] <alkisg> But yeah, /etc/network/interfaces syntax is the same, because it runs from the same code
[07:27] <l9> alkisg: yes i saw that ubuntu guide earlyer i think i get confused when i want too correct a small error and gets hit with complicated guid like that one
[07:33] <the-listener> quit
[07:37] <turista> hey every1, is someone awake?¿
[07:38] <ameya> ameya
[07:38] <l9> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23904002/ thanks that did the trick :) needed a reboot of the client and up up and away it when
[07:39] <alkisg> l9: np
[07:40] <turista> I'll paste something random here and tell me what you think
[07:40] <turista> fatal error: libxml/xmlmemory.h: No existe el archivo o el directorio
[07:41] <l9> that you have something that fails with a xml file?
[07:41] <l9> or a program using xml
[07:42] <turista> a program with it
[07:42] <turista> I did install several times several types of xml2
[07:42] <turista> but I don't get it, and yelling to the machine is not working
[07:43] <turista> it barely works with downloads only
[07:43] <l9> do a search for this file libxml/xmlmemory.h might be it is just missing a sym link
[07:43] <turista> it says that it does not exist
[07:43] <wafflejock> turista, yeah it just can't find it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24657017/fatal-error-libxml-xmlmemory-h-no-such-file-or-directory
[07:44] <l9> wafflejock: a sym link missing?
[07:44] <wafflejock> turista, you can use, updatedb, then, locate xmlmemory.h, to see where the file actually is if you did install something with it
[07:44] <wafflejock> l9, yeah well some missing include path
[07:45] <turista> I just did type "make" as the readme file did ask me to do
[07:46] <l9> turista: problem is that when you make a program you need too include all kinds of shit apposed too apt get install
[07:46] <hateball> !compile | turista
[07:46] <wafflejock> turista, yeah that means there's a Makefile in there and it has some default target with a bunch of commands in there one of them builds the program with gcc (the c compiler) it fails cause the expected path for that file/library isn't right for your system
[07:46] <turista> I'm trying to see if I've the .h with the find command
[07:47] <l9> turista: try this apt search "nameofprogram"
[07:47] <l9> whitout the "part"
[07:47] <l9> but.-...
[07:49] <turista> gosh I don't have it
[07:49] <turista> may I know wich package should I install to get it?¿
[07:51] <turista> gcc -pthread rarcrack.c `xml2-config --libs --cflags` -O2 -o rarcrack
[07:52] <wafflejock> turista, looks like it's in libxml2-dev
[07:54] <turista> I gotta test it
[07:55] <turista> dang I don't have it >_< then what I've been installing with the xml2
[07:58] <turista> but thank you for your time, gonna do that tomorrow; the wireless here is another troubleshooting :-P~
[07:58] <db09> hi I'm trying to set up a server in virtual machine (version 5.1.4) with ubuntu server 14.04. When I ping 8.8.8.8 I'm geting "destination host unreachable" - any help appreciated
[07:58] <turista> have a good night or day, dunno where u're now, bye-bye
[08:39] <glache> hi
[08:40] <glache> I have a question and found it unanswered on StackOverFlow...How can I disable avahi-daemon in Ubuntu 16.04?...http://askubuntu.com/questions/761292/how-to-disable-avahi-daemon-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[08:43] <jimmyar> how do i know that the gnome-image-viewer name in the command line /? To open it from there ?
[08:43] <jimmyar> How the heck do I know it's name ? It's not called viewer
[08:43] <jimmyar> So yes, that's a problem I want to know the name of the binary ?
[08:43] <glache> Drag it to the terminal
[08:43] <hateball> jimmyar: you can use "xdg-open filename" to use whatever is default for that mime type
[08:44] <jimmyar> which is the executable name for it ? how
[08:44] <jimmyar> no xdg-open just opens the file, I want to know the name of the binary
[08:44] <jimmyar> How do I drag it to the terminal ?
[08:44] <jimmyar> I never did it
[08:45] <jimmyar> I always use the cli ,so ...
[08:45] <alkisg> glache: you tried systemctl disable avahi-daemon, and it still starts?
[08:45] <glache> I haven't tried it yet.
[08:45] <glache> I read somewhere that it hangs.
[08:46] <glache> I'd like to permanently disable it.
[08:46] <Sourcey> Hello. If I would like to get an email if anyone logs into the database. Is this possible? phpmyadmin in this case
[08:46] <Tahr-Poop> glache, glache, sudo systemctl disable avahi-daemon.service && sudo systemctl mask avahi-daemon.service
[08:47] <jimmyar> I went to the ps aux and it says it's name of "eog"
[08:47] <jimmyar> strange name
[08:47] <glache> Netstat -plunt still shows it
[08:47] <jimmyar> eog for gnome image-viewer
[08:47] <alkisg> glache: systemctl disable disables the service for all next boots. systemctl stop stops it now so that you don't see it in ps aux
[08:48] <glache> ohhhh
[08:48] <glache> Let me reboot.  brb
[08:48] <ducasse> jimmyar: the viewer is called "eye of gnome", that's why.
[08:50] <jimmyar> ducasse: how do i uninstall a software , and remove EVERY TRACE OF IT
[08:50] <jimmyar> and including the config files
[08:50] <L0rdLaravel> jimmyar, sudo rm -rf /
[08:50] <jimmyar> So that when I install it, it's as if its is the first time I am installing it
[08:51] <jimmyar> no lol rm -rf / removes everything the complete smack
[08:51] <ducasse> jimmyar: if you want to remove the config files in your homedir, you need to do that manually
[08:51] <ducasse> L0rdLaravel: don't suggest that, not funny
[08:51] <jimmyar> what about in /etc ?
[08:51] <L0rdLaravel> what software is it jimmyar ?
[08:51] <jimmyar> and else where , like in /usr/
[08:51] <glache> alright, it's gone.  ty
[08:52] <jimmyar> It can be any software, but in this case it is wireshark
[08:52] <L0rdLaravel> ok that stores it in your home dir
[08:52] <L0rdLaravel> ~/.wireshark most likely
[08:52] <alkisg> glache: np
[08:52] <jimmyar> no
[08:52] <glache> How can I disable cupsd permanently?
[08:52] <L0rdLaravel> sudo systemd cupsd disable i think
[08:53] <ducasse> jimmyar: 'sudo apt purge wireshark' removes the package, look in ~/.config for config files
[08:54] <jimmyar> how do i purge the autoremove packages ? also
[08:54] <jimmyar> apt-get autoremove doesn't remove the deps completely,every last trace of it
[08:55] <jimmyar> I think, this is a advanced question regarding the package management
[08:55] <no_gravity> Hello! Do you guys use screen with multiple linux users? If so, how?
[08:55] <jimmyar> And this may even be beyond most users
[08:55] <alkisg> jimmyar: those remarks are lame. sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove wireshark
[08:56] <glache> beyond me for sure
[08:56] <L0rdLaravel> https://askubuntu.com/questions/827109/how-to-remove-wireshark-from-my-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[08:56] <L0rdLaravel> google search is beyond us all, god save the Queen
[08:56] <glache> lol, I searched though
[08:56] <L0rdLaravel> ssshhhh ;p
[08:57] <jimmyar> alkisg: dude E: Command line option --purge is not understood in combination with the other options . Have you even tried it?
[08:58] <jimmyar> So many people never try the comands that they tell to others.
[08:58] <alkisg> jimmyar: try copy/paste, you made typos
[08:58] <alkisg> jimmyar: also, stop begin rude
[08:58] <alkisg> jimmyar: I didn't say "--purge", I said "purge", read again.
[08:59] <jimmyar> I tried that too
[09:00] <alkisg> jimmyar, I said: sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove wireshark
[09:00] <alkisg> jimmyar: that's a perfectly valid command
[09:00] <alkisg> If you can't type it properly, don't blame others
[09:00] <L0rdLaravel> works for me alkisg
[09:00] <glache> Why do I get a permission denied when I try "sudo echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override"?
[09:00] <alkisg> glache: run `sudo -i` first, then do the cd commands
[09:00] <L0rdLaravel> glache, manually edit the file
[09:01] <L0rdLaravel> oh nice -i
[09:01] <alkisg> glache: *the echo commands
[09:01] <glache> There is no file though....
[09:01] <L0rdLaravel> it will make it
[09:01] <alkisg> glache: sudo -i <enter> echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override
[09:01] <glache> Why is the 'sudo -i' required first in this case?
[09:01] <L0rdLaravel> lol alkisg it's kind of sad i realised what sudo -i does, i have been using it for 10 years
[09:02] <alkisg> glache: when you run a pipe, sudo xx | yy, then the xx command runs as root, but the yy as the user, so it can't access special files
[09:02] <jimmyar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[09:02] <glache> ohhhhhhh
[09:02] <jimmyar> what's autoclean
[09:02] <glache> makes sense
[09:02] <L0rdLaravel> !ban jimmyar
[09:03] <glache> How can I break out the root prompt without closing the window and without loses the sudo session?
[09:03] <alkisg> Ctrl+C ?
[09:03] <glache> Doesn't work
[09:04] <jimmyar> in what way is autoclean different from autoremove, and I do get a lot of not upgraded packages
[09:04] <jimmyar> alkisg: yeah that works though, yes it is a valid cmd I know now
[09:04] <jimmyar> L0rdLaravel: what about you, giving other rm -rf advice , and now I should be removed from here?
[09:04] <geirha> run exit or hit Ctrl+d
[09:05] <glache> sweet, ty
[09:05] <alkisg> jimmyar: auto-clean means "delete the package *cache*, the .deb files that are no longer needed", while auto-remove means "uninstall the packages that are currently installed but not needed by other packages"
[09:05] <kovanovsky> exit works to break out of the root prompt, but not sure if it'll lose the sudo session
[09:05] <powerfulgirl> Adolf Hitler's Warning https://youtu.be/MCNHaLziBQw "this video just opens my eyes"
[09:05] <jimmyar> alkisg: ok thex
[09:05] <jimmyar> powerfulgirl: are you a Nazi ?
[09:05] <glache> ctrl+d did break the sudo session
[09:05] <glache> didn't*
[09:05] <powerfulgirl> (((the open borders lobby))) (((mass murders)))  (((international hyenas)))﻿
[09:06] <glache> oh no, a nazi in the chat
[09:06] <jimmyar> powerfulgirl I understand that, but this is ##ubuntu not ##NAzi
[09:06] <glache> lol
[09:06] <L0rdLaravel> it's a bot silly people lol
[09:06] <jimmyar> how do you know ? And who put it here to troll us all
[09:07] <L0rdLaravel> i have been using IRC for 10+ years and it behaves like a bot
[09:07] <jimmyar> bots nowawdays can be as intelligent as humans
[09:07] <L0rdLaravel> not this one, look at it lol
[09:07] <glache> I use to use IRC 10+ years ago, but I stopped for along time.
[09:07] <L0rdLaravel> powerfulgirl, sup
[09:07] <glache> I'm still a noob.
[09:08] <jimmyar> glache: seriously how can have you been using linux ?
[09:08] <powerfulgirl> "I spent my whole life believing that Hitler was just evil, but the fact is that Jewish bankers do own and run most of the world, they cause most of the wars, they create poverty as a tool of their power, and they are committing worldwide white genocide."
[09:08] <L0rdLaravel> jimmyar, do you have any friends in real life ?
[09:08] <jimmyar> like 10+ years, seriously? And don't even know ctrl+d
[09:08] <jimmyar> L0rdLaravel: no why ?
[09:08] <powerfulgirl> The truth set me free!
[09:08] <glache> I've been using Linux only like three years.
[09:08] <jimmyar> I have no friends L0rdLaravel but why ?
[09:09] <jimmyar> what about you L0rdLaravel
[09:09] <L0rdLaravel> oh I can tell by how you type on IRC, so I wanted to confirm my suspicions
[09:09] <L0rdLaravel> Yes I have friends in real life, thanks
[09:09] <jimmyar> L0rdLaravel: ?
[09:09] <geirha> glache: It should, unless you've bound Ctrl+d to something other than the default
[09:09] <jimmyar> How I type ? What that has to do with it ? is my typing strange to you ?
[09:09] <jimmyar> Doesn't it tell me something about the real life ? NO internet is my life
[09:10] <jimmyar> I live and roam on the internet
[09:10] <ppf> remember, this is #ubuntu
[09:11] <jimmyar> I want to become digital, and shed my human form
[09:11] <glache> I use to use AIM back in the day.  In the late 90's, early 2000's.
[09:12] <glache> Is it normal to have DNSmasq listening if I'm not hosting a server?
[09:14] <L0rdLaravel> yes i think so glache
[09:14] <ducasse> glache: yes, ubuntu uses it as a caching resolver by default
[09:14] <glache> So it's not a security risk in any way?
[09:15] <alkisg> It's actually trying to solve security issues
[09:15] <alkisg> badly, imho, but anyways it's the default
[09:15] <ducasse> glache: open ports something is listening on are always a risk
[09:17] <glache> Scary stuff.
[09:17] <alkisg> It's listening on localhost, trying to avoid dns cache poisoning
[09:17] <alkisg> It's not scary, just quick and dirty implementation instead of something better
[09:17] <ducasse> they switched to systemd-resolved in 16.10, i think?
[09:18] <alkisg> Dunno, I stick to lts releases
[09:18] <glache> I'm just trying to protect the noc list.
[09:29] <JennyBlueBird> hi guys, getting only blank pages in firefox with all addons disabled. Chromium works fine, and I tried clearing all offline data. The websites seem to load but do not render. Any ideas ?
[09:30] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: if you press F12 to get the dev console, does that show any particular errors?
[09:30] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: or if you start firefox from a terminal, does it spit out any weird errors?
[09:30] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: have you tried with a clean/new profile?
[09:31] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, sec
[09:31] <JennyBlueBird> I think it may be the tracking protection gone awry
[09:32] <JennyBlueBird> [GFX1]: Failed 2 buffer db=0 dw=0 for 0, -1, 64, 42
[09:32] <JennyBlueBird> That sounds bad
[09:33] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, it seems to get a bunch of gfx errors
[09:33] <JennyBlueBird> [GFX1]: Failed 2 buffer db=0 dw=0 for 0, 0, 1440, 742
[09:33] <JennyBlueBird>  and the like
[09:34] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: can you try disabling HW accel? In options -> advanced
[09:34] <hateball> restart the browser after
[09:35] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, slight change, but same problem
[09:35] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, I get some background for elements now , mostly blue
[09:36] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: what GPU/driver are you using?
[09:36] <hateball> Intel (i915) ?
[09:36] <JennyBlueBird> nvidia , the one which the utility says is tested
[09:36] <JennyBlueBird> it worked up until this morning
[09:37] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: so nvidia-367 I take it?
[09:37] <JennyBlueBird> it was 340
[09:37] <JennyBlueBird> gonna try to change it to 367 and restart
[09:38] <JennyBlueBird> reporting back after a reboot
[09:42] <JennyBlueBird> nope
[09:42] <JennyBlueBird> still failing hard
[09:42] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, that made it infeasible to boot
[09:46] <JennyBlueBird> hatchetjack, solved it. The magic "refresh firefox" button in help solved the issue
[09:46] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, *
[09:46] <JennyBlueBird> still dunno what was wrong
[09:46] <JennyBlueBird> thanks anyway
[09:48] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: something broken in your user config then I guess
[09:49] <Tahr-Poop> JennyBlueBird, are you using ff 50 or 51?
[09:49] <JennyBlueBird> oooooh, it's broken again
[09:49] <JennyBlueBird> wonder what I changed
[09:49] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: you left before I could reply, need to make sure you are using the right driver for your chipset. 340 is the last one for legacy chipsets
[09:49] <hateball> hence being unable to boot with anything more recent
[09:51] <Tahr-Poop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1643200
[09:52] <JennyBlueBird> nope, my bad
[09:52] <JennyBlueBird> even a fresh firefox with everything reset fails
[09:52] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, how do I nuke my profile ?
[09:54] <JennyBlueBird> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".  <-- that cannot be good
[09:54] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: you launch with "firefox --profilemanager"
[09:54] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: that lets you create a brand new profile to test with
[09:54] <JennyBlueBird> yea, I get gfx problems
[09:54] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: otherwise the profile is stored in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[09:55] <JennyBlueBird> awwww, shucks, it's not just firefox
[09:55] <JennyBlueBird> glxinfo moans too
[09:55] <Ben64> time to install the proper graphics drivers
[09:57] <JennyBlueBird> yea, thing is I think I have done that
[09:57] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: what chipset do you have? "lspci -v"
[09:57] <Ben64> JennyBlueBird: lshw -C VIDEO
[09:58] <JennyBlueBird> It's a GTX 760
[09:58] <JennyBlueBird> but the thing is
[09:58] <JennyBlueBird> it worked fine
[09:58] <JennyBlueBird> and now it does not :S
[09:59] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: you dont want 340 for that card
[09:59] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: you will want at least 367
[09:59] <JennyBlueBird> I justw ant it working
[09:59] <Ben64> 340 supports 760
[09:59] <JennyBlueBird> it was working fine up until 5 minutes ago
[10:00] <Ben64> JennyBlueBird: pastebin lshw -C VIDEO
[10:00] <JennyBlueBird> sec
[10:01] <JennyBlueBird> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/9qW0TC24
[10:01] <JennyBlueBird> the proprietary driver widget gets stuck :/
[10:01] <Ben64> looks like you're using no driver
[10:02] <Ben64> JennyBlueBird: run this... "sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r | sed s/-[a-z].*//g) linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)"
[10:02] <JennyBlueBird> Gonna give the widget one mroe chance
[10:02] <JennyBlueBird> brb
[10:03] <Whir> Hello, I have an Edimax USB wlan adapter, and it does not work on system start-up, but I have to unplug and replug the device.
[10:04] <Whir> the device ID is 7392:7622, r8712u the loaded kernel module
[10:09] <MacroMan> I've seen `read -p $"Press [Enter]..."` as way to pause a bash script, but my script doesn't pause. I get `1: read: arg count` instead
[10:10] <MacroMan> What am I doing wrong? Got it from this question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/92802/what-is-the-linux-equivalent-to-dos-pause
[10:10] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, in terminal run > lshw -class network | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:10] <alkisg> MacroMan: what's the actual line you're trying to run?
[10:11] <Guest88331> After starting my computer and before appearing de Ubuntu theme the screen is full of vertical colour lines. The system runs ok. Any help with the lines?
[10:11] <MacroMan> alkisg, `read -p $"Press [Enter] to continue..."`
[10:12] <alkisg> MacroMan: is your script running with bash? if so, it should work...
[10:12] <alkisg> Do you have #!/bin/bash on top?
[10:12] <MacroMan> alkisg, That did it, thanks
[10:13] <MacroMan> I always forget about the hashbang
[10:13] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: http://termbin.com/wq85
[10:13] <Haris> hello all
[10:13] <Haris> I need http/ftp browsable repo for Ubuntu 14.04.2. Where can I find it ?
[10:14] <Haris> I need individual pkgs for manual download
[10:14] <Ben64> packages.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <Guest73934> waddup
[10:19] <koen_> dd if=/dev/zero of =5.doc bs=1M count=10 what does the command do?
[10:19] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, Can you please reboot your system without reinserting adapter and pastebin the output of lshw -c network and dmesg | grep usb commands?
[10:20] <Ben64> koen_: fails because of the space after "of"
[10:20] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: you mean reboot to the plugged in no Wifi state right?
[10:21] <EriC^^> koen_: it makes a file 10M in size full of zero's
[10:21] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, yes
[10:22] <koen_> EriC^^: 10Mb in size?
[10:22] <EriC^^> koen_: well, 10MiB
[10:23] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, Ben64 ok, so I managed to fix the graphics driver, glxinfo works now, but firefox still won't render stuff
[10:23] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: roger, see you soon then
[10:23] <Ben64> JennyBlueBird: pastebin lshw -C VIDEO
[10:23] <GNU_GRUB> anybody got some Ubuntu tips & tricks?
[10:24] <koen_> EriC^^: why i am not able to find any zeros if i cat that file
[10:24] <Haris> guys ? where can I find php5_5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.19_all.deb ?
[10:24] <EriC^^> koen_: it's not a string
[10:24] <koen_> then
[10:24] <EriC^^> koen_: it's a literal zero in hex
[10:25] <EriC^^> it's a hexadecimal "00"
[10:25] <koen_> but in that case do i see any special characters when i do a vi or cat?
[10:25] <JennyBlueBird> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/fvhZtKd8
[10:25] <Ben64> JennyBlueBird: great
[10:26] <JennyBlueBird> Ben64, firefox is still broken though
[10:26] <EriC^^> koen_: try "hexdump -C file"
[10:26] <JennyBlueBird> Ben64, get a blank white page
[10:26] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: wont render regardless if you make a new profile with profilemanager?
[10:26] <JennyBlueBird> Ben64, tried refreshing it to purge all addons, still fails
[10:26] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, yea
[10:26] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, if I refresh it from the troubleshooting page in help it renders until I start it anew, then it fails
[10:27] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, so I am guessing the configuration is broken in some of my personal settings
[10:27] <koen_> EriC^^: oh cool
[10:27] <Zen> koen_: 0x0 in the ascii table is the ascii character 'nul', will probably be rendered as ^@
[10:27] <Zen> thats for vim btw, cat wont render anything
[10:29] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: http://termbin.com/lyi2
[10:29] <Whir> and
[10:29] <Whir> http://termbin.com/tjji
[10:30] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, yea, it works if I refresh firefox, then it fails again on next launch
[10:30] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: I am not talking about refreshing your current profile, I asked if you tried creating a brand new one
[10:31] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, I've tried both
[10:31] <JennyBlueBird> yup , it fails still
[10:31] <hateball> JennyBlueBird: and you are now using nvidia-340? or nvidia-367?
[10:32] <Haris> hello ?
[10:32] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, 340 , but that is almost certainly not the issue
[10:32] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, like I said if I refresh firefox it works, until I start it again
[10:32] <hateball> Do as you like, I'd upgrade to 367 first
[10:34] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, so driver is loaded but it looks like theres something problem with network manager
[10:34] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: I see that it is only disables
[10:34] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: yep
[10:34] <Whir> I can do an iwlist scan
[10:35] <Whir> ..and see all the networks
[10:35] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: uh, wait..no I am online, sorry
[10:35] <Whir> *now
[10:36] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: any ideas about the nm?
[10:39] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, add https://paste.ubuntu.com/23904524/ to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:40] <Whir> whut?
[10:40] <Whir> ah, ok
[10:40] <Tahr-Poop> auto wlx801f028fb9cc
[10:40] <Tahr-Poop> iface wlx801f028fb9cc inet dhcp
[10:41] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, ^^ add both lines
[10:41] <ren0v0> Hi, the redis-server package contains redis-sentinel binary, but there is no systemd unit for it, is it expected for the user to create it?
[10:41] <ren0v0> I ask because i found this issue and it seems in debian it was split out?  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775414
[10:41] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: yep, I see :] This file only had the loopback device configured..
[10:42] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: will do a reboot
[10:43] <Haris> how to upgrade php5 pkgs on 14.04.2 without performing dist-upgrade ?
[10:44] <isabel_> hi
[10:44] <ppf> Haris: install it
[10:44] <Haris> -> manually
[10:44] <Zen> ren0v0: seems like debian is silly in assuming that all services should automatically start
[10:44] <ppf> Haris: ?
[10:44] <Haris> how to install it ?
[10:44] <Haris> apt-get install pkg name ?
[10:44] <ppf> yes
[10:44] <Haris> 4.19 is installed. 4.20 is available
[10:45] <Haris> I have a box that doesn't have Internet access
[10:45] <Haris> how do I download php5 pkgs for that one ?
[10:45] <ppf> packages.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <someone_else> 16│14:19:16     | public void put(Object x) throws InterruptedException {                                                                                                                                                   │
[10:45] <someone_else> 17│14:19:16     |  lock.lock();                                                                                                                                                                                             │
[10:45] <someone_else> 18│14:19:16     |  try {                                                                                                                                                                                                    │
[10:45] <someone_else> 19│14:19:16     |  while (count == n) notFull.await();                                                                                                                                                                      │
[10:45] <someone_else>                   │14:19:16     |  items[rear] = x; rear = (rear + 1) % n; count++;                                                                                                                                                         │
[10:45] <someone_else>                   │14:19:17     |  notEmpty.signal();                                                                                                                                                                                       │
[10:45] <someone_else>                   │14:19:19     |  } finally {                                                                                                                                                                                              │
[10:46] <Zen> ._.
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:21     |  lock.unlock();                                                                                                                                                                                           │
[10:46] <mozammel> Hi, looking for help, some of icon not show up on Kmymoney- 4.8.0, no matter Which icon theme I chose, I have also install oxygen theme, i'm using ubuntu 16.10 unity 7.
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:23     |  }                                                                                                                                                                                                        │
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:25     |  }                                                                                                                                                                                                        │
[10:46] <ppf> dude.
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:28     |  public Object take() throws InterruptedException {                                                                                                                                                       │
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:30     |  lock.lock();                                                                                                                                                                                             │
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:32     |  try {                                                                                                                                                                                                    │
[10:46] <Reptilia> Anyone here experienced with gtk+3.0? I am trying to follow a Youtube video on GTK, but after i try to compile a file using the terminal, i get a message that the gtk.h library is missing, although it is present in usr/include. Thanks in advance.
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:34     |  while (count == 0) notEmpty.await();                                                                                                                                                                     │
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:36     |  Object x = items[front];                                                                                                                                                                                 │
[10:46] <ppf> ren0v0: redis-sentinel ships an init script
[10:46] <someone_else>                   │14:19:39     |  front = (front + 1)% n; count--;                                                                                                                                                                         │
[10:46] <Haris> hmm
[10:46] <Haris> Re-typing Q: I have a box that doesn't have Internet access. how do I download php5 pkgs for that one ?
[10:46] <ppf> ren0v0: what ubuntu are you on
[10:47] <Haris> its 14.04.2
[10:47] <ppf> Haris: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:47] <Haris> it doesn't have php5-mcrypt
[10:47] <ren0v0> ppf, 16.04
[10:47] <Haris> php-pear
[10:47] <ren0v0> i don't see it
[10:47] <ren0v0> ppf,  i've just modified my redis-server one, but would happily see the shipped one if you have a link :D
[10:47] <ppf> ren0v0: dpkg -L <package>
[10:48] <geirha> Haris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[10:48] <ppf> granted i'm on yakkety
[10:48] <Zen> ren0v0: I see redis-sentinel on my 16.04 server
[10:48] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, Ben64 solved it in case somebody else has the problem. Resetting the GTK themes seems to have fixed it. It is odd since I have not touched it at all, but I am guessing some upgrade broke the themes, and just switching between two different themes fixed the problem.
[10:48] <ren0v0> ppf,  what package? there is no redis-sentinel package
[10:48] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: did not work :/
[10:48] <Whir> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23904555/
[10:49] <ppf> !info redis-sentinel yakkety | ren0v0
[10:49] <ren0v0> Zen yes a binary, not a service ?
[10:49] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: 'tainting kernel' ??
[10:49] <ppf> !info redis-sentinel xenial| ren0v0
[10:49] <ppf> !info redis-sentinel | ren0v0
[10:49] <Whir> also had to comment out the two lines in interfaces, wifi did not come up at all
[10:49] <ppf> aw.
[10:49] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, in fact, switching back to the previous theme still works, so most likely some upgrade scripts broke the theme, and just having the GUI widget select it fixed the configuration.
[10:49] <Whir> a service networling restart did the trick then
[10:49] <ren0v0> ppf, now i'm confused, i'm using sentinel just fine because it ships with redis-server....
[10:50] <JennyBlueBird> hateball, Ben64 thanks for the help anyway
[10:50] <ppf> ren0v0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&searchon=names&keywords=redis-sentinel
[10:50] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: maybe some IPv6 problems?
[10:51] <koen_> so do we always have to exlude /mnt while backing up the whole system
[10:51] <koen_> sudo tar -cpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/mnt /
[10:51] <ren0v0> ppf yes i can see the 10 posts about there being a package apparently, i'm trying to say that its already shipped with redis-server (the binary)
[10:51] <ren0v0> is that normal ?
[10:51] <Zen> ren0v0: I have redis installed on 16.04 and theres no redis-sentinel binary
[10:51] <ppf> ren0v0: no
[10:52] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, whats your current kernel?
[10:52] <ppf> ren0v0: dpkg -L redis-server
[10:52] <ppf> dpkg -S $(which redis-sentinel)
[10:52] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: 4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:52] <ren0v0> ppf most of your commands aren't working or returning things :D
[10:53] <ren0v0> can you explain what exactly i'm supposed to be checking?
[10:53] <ppf> dpkg -L lists the contents of an installed package
[10:53] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, try this try this https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new
[10:53] <ren0v0> redis-sentinel is NOT installed on my system, but the binary is here  >>> /usr/bin/redis-sentinel
[10:53] <ren0v0> Zen ^
[10:53] <Zen> ppf: yup, I see no redis-sentinel binary in the redis-server package http://termbin.com/i9qu
[10:53] <ppf> if the command fails for you, then redis-server isn't installed through dpkg/apt
[10:54] <ppf> dpkg -S searches your installed packages for the one providing a specific file
[10:54] <ren0v0> sudo dpkg -S $(which redis-sentinel)
[10:54] <ren0v0> dpkg-query: error: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument
[10:54] <nicman23> hello, how is ARM support in ubuntu?
[10:55] <ren0v0> sudo dpkg -S $(which redis-server)
[10:55] <ren0v0> redis-server: /usr/bin/redis-server
[10:55] <ren0v0> so explain that to me ;)
[10:55] <nicman23> arm(v7)hf to be specific
[10:55] <Zen> ren0v0: redis-sentinel has not been installed with dpkg/apt
[10:55] <ppf> ren0v0: well there's no /usr/bin/redis-sentinel binary
[10:55] <V7> : )
[10:55] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: compile as root?
[10:55]  * V7 is armed by nicman23
[10:55] <nicman23> lol
[10:56] <ppf> despite what you've been saying. which redis-sentinel should resolve to /usr/bin/redis-sentinel, if the binary exists (and is in your PATH)
[10:56] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, not necessary, compile as non root user but run make install as root
[10:57] <nicman23> also make help might... help
[10:57] <ren0v0> Zen, yes because i've not installed redis-sentinel how many times!
[10:57] <ren0v0> ppf, there is on my system, i didn't put it there manually
[10:57] <ppf> the error message disagrees with you
[10:57] <ppf> run "which redis-sentinel
[10:57] <ppf> "
[10:57] <Zen> ^
[10:58] <ren0v0> returns nothing...
[10:58] <ren0v0> which one disagrees with me ?
[10:58] <Zen> ren0v0: ok, `file /usr/bin/redis-sentinel`
[10:58] <ppf> then there's no redis-sentinel in your PATH (and by extension, in /usr/bin)
[11:00] <ren0v0> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23904588/
[11:00] <ren0v0> how is this showing ?
[11:00] <ren0v0> and, i'm using the thing!
[11:00] <ppf> locate isn't live
[11:00] <ren0v0> o ffs
[11:00] <ppf> run Zen's command
[11:00] <ren0v0> i just updated and restarted,
[11:00] <ren0v0> so maybe its been split out since 3.0.7
[11:01] <ren0v0> whotf does that
[11:01] <ren0v0> so i could have been using this in production, to find out they removed the binary?
[11:01] <ren0v0> yes, its gone now.........
[11:01] <ppf> redis-server on xenial is 3.0.6
[11:01] <ren0v0> great job packagers !
[11:02] <ppf> it's been split out in 3.0.0
[11:02] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: there is no configure?!
[11:03] <ren0v0> ppf,  i was just running 3.0.7 (from PPA), literally just updated and i'm now on 3.2.6 and the sentinel binry was removed :D
[11:03] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, nope just make && sudo make install
[11:04] <ppf> as i said, redis-sentinal has been split out of redis-server in 3.0 by upstream (debian)
[11:04] <ren0v0> yes, from that link i pasted earlier    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775414
[11:05] <ppf> on the other hand, if your stuff comes from ppas, you're on your own. ppa maintainers don't have any rules
[11:08] <ppf> ren0v0: if you stick to the official repositories, these things don't happen
[11:08] <ren0v0> so, ubuntu would have left the binary in place when upgrading from < 3.x  to above?
[11:09] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: allright, success...reboot?!
[11:09] <ren0v0> ppf, and 16.04 is still on 3.0.6 which is 2 years old
[11:09] <ren0v0> security issues and all sorts
[11:10] <ppf> ubuntu backports severe security fixes
[11:10] <ren0v0> ok features then, i'm missing features
[11:10] <ren0v0> :D
[11:10] <ppf> ubuntu wouldn't have upgrade you from 2.x to 3.x
[11:10] <ren0v0> particulary for mongodb i was
[11:10] <ppf> within a release
[11:11] <quang> hi
[11:11] <quang> how do i download this binary
[11:12] <quang> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/rtl_bt/rtl8192ee_fw.bin
[11:12] <ppf> sure, nothing wrong with that. but you can't have any expectations toward package integrity if you're using stuff from ppas
[11:12] <quang> i get html page
[11:12] <quang> when i try to do save
[11:12] <rory> quang: click the link that says "plain"
[11:12] <ppf> quang: click "plain"
[11:12] <quang> i do
[11:12] <quang> but when i look at the file in atom
[11:12] <quang> its html still
[11:12] <rory> quang: wget https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/plain/rtl_bt/rtl8192ee_fw.bin
[11:13] <Ben64> quang: no it isn't
[11:13] <quang> ok
[11:13] <quang> mayb i did it wrong before
[11:13] <quang> but when i click on the fileit opens it look binary
[11:13] <quang> ok
[11:13] <quang> thanks
[11:16] <Tahr-Poop> Whir, yep, if that doesnt solves it try solution from https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1685394#p1685394
[11:18] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: wpa_supplicant, did not expect to deal with him again ^^
[11:20] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: thx so far!
[11:29] <OlofL> Can I safely delete files in /boot  to free up space? I have problem updating with apt upgrade https://gist.github.com/sliddjur/47a50721bcde971ca2aab0d9cc1a1df9
[11:30] <Whir> Tahr-Poop: *sigh*, still not working...for now I will solve it physically, by having the usb port close to the desk for easy re-pluggin'
[11:32] <Raull> Hello all
[11:32] <admiralakber> Hey there. I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04.1 server in UEFI mode. I have dd'ed the iso to a USB. However, it's not booting in UEFI mode.
[11:33] <Raull> I have a question about FPS
[11:34] <Raull> Is there difference between 60 and 120 fps in a video?
[11:34] <panicstr> admiralakber you need to create uefi bootable usb
[11:34] <Ben64> Raull: yes, difference is 60
[11:35] <daedeloth> Raull, yes. the 120 fps has twice as much images per second. ;)
[11:37] <Raull> But is possible to use 120 or 240 fps? Or its only for games. I mean in a normal video taken with a nice camera
[11:37] <admiralakber> panicstr: okay, it literally just started working for some reason. I swear I didn't I ask prematurely. Wierd.
[11:37] <k1l_> Raull: the human eye cant see faster than 25-28 fps
[11:38] <Ben64> k1l_: that's not true : /
[11:39] <k1l_> OlofL: i prefer to use "sudo dpkg -r some_old_linux_kernel_package" to free space. look at "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" for installed kernel packages
[11:39] <Raull> Yes you can see difference between 30 and 60
[11:39] <Raull> Check in youtube a video
[11:40] <admiralakber> Raull: Doesn't youtube only play back at a certain rate?
[11:40] <Raull> Like if you see a film in 60 fps
[11:40] <k1l_> Raull: Ben64 than you are talking about halfpictures or something like that. this will cause tearing etc. for regular full pictures my answer stands
[11:41] <Raull> No admiralakber
[11:41] <k1l_> Raull: but what is your ubuntu support question?
[11:41] <Ben64> nah man, humans can see images that last less than 1ms
[11:41] <Raull> Yes ben64
[11:42] <Ben64> but yeah, not really related to ubuntu
[11:42] <Raull> Yes sorry, i will ask in another channel
[11:42] <Raull> Thank you anyway
[11:43] <sirv> k1 > i can see difference between 60fps and 100fps in counterstrike for example ... best noticable on old CRTs
[11:44] <Raull> But i mean if is only for games
[11:44] <admiralakber> sirv: That might be because of the refresh rate though. Don't get me wrong though, closer to infinity frames per second the better.
[11:45] <sirv> when i first saw 60fps video - i did not know it was 60 fps - i was surprised how fluent it was and did not know why
[11:46] <sirv> dont worry YT would not offere 60fps if there was no difference
[11:46] <daedeloth> Raull, I don't know how fast your screen refreshes but I think your screen will just start ignoring frames at that rate :P
[11:46] <daedeloth> hm although, refresh rate of 5ms means 200 fps
[11:47] <yunus> hello
[11:53] <mar77i> hello #ubuntu. I have a question because this message I get is weird ("You are required to change your password immediately (root enforced)"), but googling about it was even more confusing.
[11:54] <k1l_> mar77i: where do you get that message?
[11:55] <mar77i> from su
[11:56] <mar77i> # su # like so, as well as $ sudo su # like so
[11:56] <OlofL> k1l_: uname -a Linux ubiquiti 4.4.0-36-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 11 18:01:55 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux.. but I have images  38 to 59
[11:56] <k1l_> mar77i: on what system? what ubuntu? own server or from a hoster?
[11:57] <k1l_> OlofL: than you did not reboot since then? (uptime will tell you)
[11:57] <mar77i> an ubuntu xenial box I connect to with ssh.
[11:57] <OlofL> k1l_: 152 days
[11:58] <OlofL> k1l_: wil it autoremove old images on reboot?
[11:58] <k1l_> mar77i: that seems to be a common issue on digitalocean setups.
[12:09] <OlofL> k1l_: sudo dpkg -r didnt work that well https://gist.github.com/sliddjur/3285f4e037b981d34b1de46d348b8348
[12:10] <k1l_> OlofL: still run sudo dpkg -r  linux-image-4.4.0-21-generic
[12:10] <k1l_> OlofL: if that single remove complains about the linux-extra package just add that to the dpkg -r command
[12:12] <sputnik> hi
[12:12] <sputnik> guys, i'm tryna build two packages from debian source, but i get into troubles
[12:12] <sputnik> these are the steps: http://p.lr.lt/?hash=9faed31d547f70e705718dbb3598c142
[12:13] <sputnik> anyways, after installing those deb packages "iw reg set COUNTRY_CODE" is ignored
[12:13] <sputnik> i'm sure i'm doing something wrong with them keys
[12:13] <sputnik> anyone has a clue?
[12:15] <markus-k> Hi. Are there any scripts/toolsets available for building these images yourself: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/ ? I'd like to add/change something to one of these myself
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Ht folks
[12:21] <Jazzy_J> BluesKaj, Morning/Evening.. depending on what side of the globe you are on.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Jazzy_J
[12:36] <henok> !queue
[12:39] <k1l_> henok: if you have a question just ask :)
[12:39] <Ilyas> is the new patched version of tcpdump already in the stable repositories?
[12:40] <Ilyas> my server instance is still on "tcpdump version 4.7.4"
[12:41] <k1l_> Ilyas: last time i looked there were not even patches to most of the issues available
[12:41] <sputnik> erm, guys..?
[12:42] <Ilyas> k1l_: ...oh
[12:42] <Ilyas> :/
[12:43] <anddam> hello
[12:46] <anddam> grub-install installs by default a bootloader called "ubuntu" in the ESP, I'd like to install a second one as backup, I'm reading grub-install(8) but I'm not very familiar with grub install so I'm unsure what's appropriate for efi
[12:47] <anddam> I figure --efi-directory has to be /boot/efi
[12:47] <XIngLing> I am trying to somehow configure a magnetic card reader and the official software runs only on windows. Does anyone know how to configure it on linux? the brand is Gertec
[12:48] <Onepamopa> XIngLing, if the OEM doesn't provide linux drivers, someone has to reverse-engineer a driver.
[12:49] <XIngLing> Onepamopa: that's too bad
[12:50] <hateball> XIngLing: you'll need to apt install pcsc-tools pcscd
[12:50] <hateball> if it's some smartcard you are trying to read
[12:51] <hateball> the device still needs to have kernel modules, but you'll see that in dmesg when you plug it in
[12:53] <XIngLing> hateball: will look into that, thanks
[12:56] <raxterakos> hello , can someone help me install DVB receiver t900?
[12:56] <afwang> Hi all. Is there a way to use geeqie's image comparison feature on the command line, or do I have to recreate a script using ImageMagick myself?
[12:58] <Ilyas> so, snapd and ubuntu-core-launcher are being held back on my server, is there any particular reason for that?
[12:58] <k1l_> Ilyas: did you run sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[12:58] <Ilyas> I dont think I have, no
[12:58] <Ilyas> just update and upgrade
[13:12] <Guest88331> Please, I need help to get to know how de-install completely and securely a third-party software using the terminal.
[13:13] <EriC^^> Guest88331: how did you install it?
[13:14] <raxterakos> can someon help me install tv usb stick right firmware?i am new linux user
[13:16] <Guest88331> Eric^^: I did it from de web page of Pixum. I downloaded a .tar and after that exceuted a ./perl. This installed lybraries and created a launcher at the desktop. But a double-click over the launcher does nothing. Pixum does not offer any support for Linux users, so I prefer to remove the entire package and try any other solution. Thank you.
[13:17] <Southern_Gentlem> raxterakos, what tv stick and what chipset does it use
[13:17] <EriC^^> Guest88331: does the installer offer any uninstall option?
[13:17] <raxterakos> omega DVB receiver t900?
[13:18] <k1l_> raxterakos: did you look at systemsettings -> software and update -> last tab?
[13:18] <FManTropyx> wat just happen
[13:18] <raxterakos> Bus 001 Device 015: ID 048d:9135 Integrated Technology Express, Inc. Zolid Mini DVB-T Stick
[13:18] <raxterakos> k1l_:  yes nothing there
[13:18] <Guest88331> Eric^^: I'm afraid, anyone.
[13:19] <Southern_Gentlem> Guest88331, you should have been afraid when installing anything outside the distro repos
[13:19] <raxterakos> Southern_Gentlem:  omega dvb receiver t900  [15:18] <raxterakos> Bus 001 Device 015: ID 048d:9135 Integrated Technology Express, Inc. Zolid Mini DVB-T Stick
[13:20] <Southern_Gentlem> raxterakos,  and what does google say that is the chipset and software needed for that is?
[13:20] <raxterakos> Southern_Gentlem:  i need to install right firmwere but i dont know how
[13:20] <Southern_Gentlem> raxterakos,  my previous question
[13:20] <raxterakos> Southern_Gentlem: i did somthing that i found in a german site but i dont know if its right
[13:21] <Southern_Gentlem> raxterakos,  is it working ?
[13:21] <raxterakos> Southern_Gentlem:  i can't run the software to test it
[13:21] <raxterakos> i installed with wine the software but it dosent run
[13:21] <Southern_Gentlem> then you didnt do something right then
[13:22] <ikevin> raxterakos, try: dmesg | grep -i firmware
[13:22] <hateball> raxterakos: Software installed in Wine isnt going to put firmware blobs for the kernel to use
[13:22] <k1l_> raxterakos: wine doesnt help. ubuntu got software to use dvb hardware
[13:22] <Guest88331> Southern_Gentlem: Thank you for your help. Even when does exists a specific package for Linux and it seems that many other Linux users have installed it without problems?
[13:24] <raxterakos> ikevin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23905184/
[13:25] <noc_> Guest88331, next time install in a live dvd session
[13:25] <hateball> raxterakos: That looks like it loaded it just fine, have you tried watching in say VLC?
[13:25] <k1l_> raxterakos: you have the firmware for that device.
[13:26] <raxterakos> Oh
[13:26] <k1l_> raxterakos: so use the dvbutils or another program for it. dont use windows programs i wine. that doesnt work
[13:26] <raxterakos> why i can't run the software from wine?
[13:26] <ikevin> raxterakos, https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Kworld_UB499-2T
[13:26] <noc_> Guest88331, for your current system, you'd need to find someone who knows perl (which are few luckily) and is willing to understand that "perl" script you ran, and tell you the list of operations to be reversed
[13:26] <raxterakos> k1l_:  ikevin  hateball  thank you
[13:27] <raxterakos> i will try that
[13:27] <Guest88331> noc_: thank you for your suggestion.
[13:27] <k1l_> raxterakos: use something like vlc or me-tv or such
[13:28] <hateball> raxterakos: there's also Kodi to use, but regardless the card/firmware should work just fine
[13:28] <ikevin> or tvheaded
[13:28] <ikevin> tvheadend*
[13:29] <raxterakos> hmmm ok i will try me-tv first and then kodi and then tvheaded
[13:30] <k1l_> raxterakos: you will still need to scan the channel list with the dvbtools
[13:30] <raxterakos> k1l_:  step 1) install me-tv and 2) install dvbtools?
[13:31] <raxterakos> i am right?
[13:31] <k1l_> raxterakos: the installation order doesnt matter. you need to create a channel list that other programs can play, like me-tv.
[13:32] <raxterakos> k1l_:  can you guide me how to do?i am afraid to format again
[13:34] <k1l_> install dvb-apps, then run scan dvb-t > channels.conf, then open the channels.conf with something like vlc or me-tv
[13:38] <peace_> Hello, I am having trouble using xchat client for IRC. I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I am trying to connect to freenode as irc.freenode.net. It says "you may have misspelled". Apart from this, I am also unable to connect to any of the servers in the network list. Please help
[13:39] <BluesKaj> peace_, try chat.freenode.net
[13:39] <k1l_> peace_: use chat.freenode.net and one of that ports: 6665-6667 and 8000-8002
[13:40] <dharma> why
[13:40] <dharma> hey
[13:40] <BluesKaj> peace_, also try Hexchat instead
[13:40] <BluesKaj> !xchat
[13:40] <peace_> k1l_ : I will try with your solution
[13:40] <dharma> can anyone help with packetfence
[13:41] <peace_> BluesKaj : I tried with thunderbird earlier, but it wasn't working. So i downloaded xchat.
[13:42] <FManTropyx> since when are Thunderbird and xchat alternatives to each other?
[13:42] <peace_> BluesKaj : Though I tried changing it to chat.freenode, but the problem persists.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> thunderbird has an irc chat option, FManTropyx
[13:43] <BluesKaj> peace_, xchat is no longer supported, try Hexchat
[13:43] <k1l> dharma: their website got a installation howto for their 3rd party package.
[13:43] <peace_> FManTropyx : Thunderbird also supports IRC
[13:43] <FManTropyx> I see... two years from now it will probably also have a spreadsheet, bittorrent and a video editor
[13:44] <FManTropyx> I was already thinking of moving away from using Thunderbird, because it has become such a bloated beast
[13:44] <peace_> BluesKaj : I will try hexchat. Well currently I am using mIrc in windows to seek help . :p
[13:44] <k1l> peace_: what is the exact error you get? please put on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[13:44] <dharma> hi
[13:45] <dharma> what is torrent similar in ubuntu
[13:45] <peace_> BluesKaj : Okay.
[13:45] <k1l> dharma: ubuntu supports torrent clients.
[13:46] <sputnik> what about building debs from source downloaded with apt-get source? anyone familiar with it?
[13:47] <junaidali> is cloud-images.ubuntu.com down? Downloading speed is taking like 10KBs on average
[13:47] <masterkorp> hello everyone, I just upgraded my openssl, is there anything that i need to make to force programs to use the new version of the library?
[13:48] <k1l> junaidali: i get a lot more speed.
[13:48] <markus-k> junaidali I'm getting some 400mbit from there
[13:49] <ikevin> junaidali, no problem here, 6,28MB/s
[13:50] <k1l> !pm | dharma
[13:50] <junaidali> thanks guys, I'm getting like 30mbs from other sites but its been like 15mins,I'm facing this issue.
[13:51] <noc_> masterkorp, what packages did you install and what versions?
[13:52] <The_Myth> hélio guys. is there any command to see how much download and upload speed can my vps reach?
[13:52] <algid> anyone have a clue as to why after doing dhclient -r and dhclient to get a new ip address, chrome still think it's offline?
[13:52] <The_Myth> *hello
[13:52] <algid> or rather, how to solve that without rebooting?
[13:53] <k1l> The_Myth: vps share the hardware ethernetcards with all other vps on that server. so the speed can vary a lot depending on the usage from all the servers
[13:54] <vnc> hello
[13:54] <The_Myth> k1l: I know. but anyway to test it?
[13:54] <ikevin> The_Myth, use speedtest app
[13:54] <masterkorp> noc_: i updated libssl1.0.0 to version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.22]
[13:54] <vnc> can i make a private channel?
[13:55] <masterkorp> noc_: do i need to do something to apps (eg nginx) to force to load the patched version of the library ?
[13:55] <vnc> ok. have a nice day. bye
[13:55] <k1l> vnc: just join a new channel. for informations about what is allowed and how to handle channels on freenode ask in #freenode
[13:55] <vnc> kll : ok thanks
[13:56] <vnc> k1l**
[13:56] <k1l> The_Myth: run one of the speedtesters for cli?
[13:56] <k1l> The_Myth: something like this http://www.servermom.org/test-internet-speed-vps/
[13:56] <noc_> masterkorp, reload the daemons
[13:56] <The_Myth> ty
[13:57] <Jharm> hi, i was trying to set up a VPN service few days back. and know when i try to restart apache2 i get  "Job for apache2server failed ..." i've looked at few post that say to maybe a config file is missing, but ive already tried uninstalling and reinstalling apache an no luck. Any suggestions?
[13:57] <noc_> masterkorp, basically processes that are currently linked to the libraries need to be relinked with the updated versions, starting them again will do the job, HOW depends on the process/daemon/service
[13:58] <peace_> I just downloaded hexchat.But the problem persists.It's taking too long to respond
[13:58] <k1l> peace_: using some special network? like proxy or vpn? or company network?
[13:58] <noc_> masterkorp, I'm assuming you did not reboot the machine after the update. If you rebooted then you needn't do anything ofc
[13:59] <masterkorp> noc_: yeah, i did not rebot anything
[13:59] <peace_> k1l : No. just local service provider
[14:00] <masterkorp> ok, so nginx will be a reload enough for it to recognized the new link?
[14:00] <peace_> k1l : Everything used to work perfectly fine few months ack
[14:00] <k1l> peace_: what is the exact error from hexchat? can you show on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:01] <k1l> peace_: can you ping chat.freenode.net ?
[14:01] <peace_> k1l : sure. give me a minute.
[14:03] <Jsync> Hello. I am curious how I might be able to download sourcefiles. I want to backup all necessary for my system & work on my own distribution.
[14:05] <ikevin> Jsync, source file of installed packages?
[14:05] <noc_> !remaster | Jsync
[14:05] <peace_> k1l : http://pastebin.com/W1mMMSuR -> error
[14:07] <Jsync> I read about "apt-get source", though I want to get all the source files for the total system.
[14:07] <peace_> k1l : http://pastebin.com/9RGGN6gM -> after sometime
[14:08] <peace_> k1l : Also ping is giving infinite results. So i guess it's working
[14:09] <The_Myth> it worked like a charm. :) tks guys
[14:09] <ikevin> peace_, do you connect on the good port? using the ip directly is working?
[14:10] <peace_> ikevin : I am connecting from the list provided by hexchatt
[14:10] <k1l> peace_: can you use the ip from the ping?
[14:11] <ikevin> peace_, ok, do you have multiple IP address?
[14:11] <Jharm> any suggestions on why i cant restart apache2?
[14:12] <peace_> k1l : you mean 130.185.232.126 instead of chat.freenode.net?
[14:12] <noc_> Jsync, the system is made up of packages
[14:12] <hateball> Jharm: Have you looked in your apache logs?
[14:12] <ikevin> Jharm, does it give you any error?
[14:12] <k1l> peace_: the one where the ping worked for freenode, yes
[14:12] <Jsync> ikevin, actually I just want to download all the system package source files for the total system to an External HDD.
[14:12] <peace_> ikevin : My router configuration uses DHCP.
[14:12] <k1l> peace_: it looks to me you either do use a proxy/vpn or your dns is broken.
[14:13] <peace_> k1l : how to determine and fix?
[14:13] <Jharm> yes many, but one that stands out is AH00526: Syntax error on line 13. thsi is when i run journalctl -xe command
[14:14] <k1l> peace_: try with the ip
[14:14] <markus-k> What is the best way to install libguestfs-tools from 16.10 on 16.04? Too many dependecies to download the deb
[14:14] <peace_> k1l: The IP thing just worked i guess. Checking..
[14:15] <annushka_zalopan> klfhj
[14:15] <ikevin> peace_, ok, install dnsutils  and see if "dig +short chat.freenode.net" return you a list of ips
[14:15] <guardian__> HI, I need a help. So my issue is I cant install lubuntu 16.10 nor 16.04 on my new acer es1 533 laptop. The installer crashes when the process is nearly complete. When I tried to install ubutntu the process was stuck at the installation of grub2 file
[14:15] <Jharm> i did set up CA certificate and it added a few lines to my example.com.conf file. it worked find at first but know i thinkg that is causing the issue.
[14:16] <annushka_zalopan> Help!!! My firefox just crashed
[14:16] <guardian__> Its been 2 days since I am stuck with this issue. Some help would be much appreciated. *My lap only have UEFI boot support.I searched in lot of forums n found a lot of people had the same issue and they returned the lap.
[14:16] <ikevin> Jsync, you can apt-get source the base packages
[14:16] <annushka_zalopan> HELP!!!!!!!! My firefox keeps crashing
[14:17] <guardian__> When I contacted acer support they to told me to install win 10 x64 .I tried it and it worked without any issues. But I want lubuntu/ubuntu only
[14:17] <guardian__> I tried this command : [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD" EFI boot on HDD ; it returned EFI boot on HDD
[14:17] <dheeraj> my flash player is not working . Any help would be appreciable
[14:17] <ikevin> guardian__, disable UEFI
[14:17] <Jsync> ikevin, is there a published list of all base packages?
[14:17] <peace_> k1l : ikevin : Using IP, it worked. Thanks a lot. Does it mean I have to connect using IP everytime.
[14:17] <guardian__> ikevin - my lap only have a uefi
[14:18] <ikevin> peace_, it seems you have a dns problem, if you don't solve it, you need to use the ip
[14:18] <noc_> Jsync, what is the real problem you are trying to solve?
[14:19] <Jsync> noc_, I just want to download the source packages for Ubuntu onto an External HDD so that I can build my own system on my local network.
[14:19] <squashdame> hey anna
[14:19] <guardian__>  fwiw, EriC^^ : plz help
[14:19] <squashdame> any one CS?
[14:19] <squashdame> @anna
[14:19] <noc_> Jsync, why would you want to do that?
[14:20] <sebastian_hernan> anna is a ho
[14:20] <guardian__> ikevin : please advise
[14:20] <Jsync> Just because. I want to reference the totality of source files & build my own.
[14:20] <k1l> squashdame: this channel is only for technical ubuntu support. dont connect from several clients to here
[14:20] <squashdame> okay
[14:20] <squashdame> sorr
[14:20] <squashdame> my fault
[14:20] <sebastian_hernan> we are out
[14:21] <Arpit97> guardian__ , which software you are using to burn Ubuntu ISO to your usb??
[14:21] <ikevin> guardian__, does secure boot is disabled?
[14:21] <guardian__> rufus
[14:21] <peace_> ikevin : I have downloaded dnsutils and will try to work with it. Thanks :)
[14:21] <guardian__> ikevin : secure boot is enabled and they have disabled the option to turn it off
[14:22] <Arpit97> select 3rd option in rufus of partition scheme
[14:22] <guardian__> ya gpt with uefi
[14:22] <Arpit97> it should be GPT scheme
[14:22] <akik> guardian__: usually when you set the admin password, it enables that setting (secure boot disabled)
[14:22] <guardian__> ya I choose that only but still it is having issue.
[14:22] <guardian__> akik: I tried and the system got stuck.
[14:23] <Arpit97> is it running fine in live mode?
[14:23] <guardian__> ya right now I am using live mode
[14:23] <ikevin> guardian__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/862946/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-acer-aspire-es1-533
[14:24] <Arpit97> Is there any other OS installed in your laptop?
[14:24] <Arpit97> like Windows 10 preinstallled
[14:25] <guardian__> arpit : no. It had linpus but I deleted it
[14:25] <guardian__> iKevin : I tried the second method in that one. But it didnt work
[14:26] <guardian__> I read that post earlier.
[14:28] <guardian__> Someone help me plz.
[14:28] <Arpit97> try installing Fedora
[14:28] <Arpit97> and see if it hangs
[14:29] <Jsync> Does anybody have an answer regarding downloading all the system source files for local storage?
[14:30] <Xtreme> hello, I am using cinnamon UI. and all applets stoped working after upgrade.
[14:30] <guardian__> arpit : the spec of this lap is so bad even ubuntu was hanging like anything in the live mode. (Intel Pentium quad core,4gb ddr3 500gb hdd)
[14:30] <Xtreme> Any pointers?
[14:32] <Arpit97> just try Fedora if it installs correctly than ubuntu might have some bug
[14:32] <mcphail> Jsync: I think you can use apt-mirror if you want your own personal mirror of an archive
[14:32] <guardian__> arpit: I tried mint 16.10 but it also had the same pblm. stuck during installation
[14:33] <Arpit97> mint is based on ubuntu
[14:33] <Arpit97> they have several things common
[14:33] <guardian__> oops. I nvr knew . my bad
[14:33] <Jsync> mcphail, so I'd use apt-mirror ftp://ftp.debian.org?
[14:34] <guardian__> ok I will try fedora then
[14:34] <xangua> guardian__: those are not bad specs at all, did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:36] <Arpit97> hey one more thing, if you want to use ubuntu only then give a try to Ubuntu Mate also they have made several changes to boot loader
[14:36] <guardian__> xangua : but ubuntu is hanging so much
[14:36] <xangua> guardian__: but if you claim Ubuntu was slow, it might be something else
[14:36] <xangua> Like graphics
[14:38] <Prelude2004c> hey guys.. good day quick question.. i am doing some trascoding and require vdpaul to decode... its working well and i run Xorg...  The only problem is as soon as I run Xorg , my TTY goes into GUI mode. Any way to run xorg without affecting the screen and allowing me into server via command prompt
[14:38] <guardian__> xangua : when I tried to type in terminal it was taking almost 5-6sec for those things to come on screen.
[14:38] <mcphail> Jsync: no. The man page has clear examples of mirroring a source archive
[14:38] <Arpit97> usually slow in live mode
[14:39] <mcphail> Jsync: you run the application and can change the configuration to mirror whatever you need
[14:39] <guardian__> xangua: I tried boot-repair but the system hangs while installing efi
[14:40] <CRogers> Hi everyone. :)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Prelude2004c, open another vt/tty perhaps ?
[14:40] <tatertots> Prelude2004c: does the symptom occur if you using software rendering to decode during transcode?
[14:40] <CRogers> So in the new Unity tweak tool how does one change the alt-drag to super-drag to move windows.
[14:40] <Prelude2004c> um.. how do i open up another.. basically my internet shows me a mouse and a login
[14:41] <CRogers> It's still interfering with everything.
[14:41] <Prelude2004c> F$x doesn't seem to do anything
[14:41] <Jsync> thanks mcphail
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Prelude2004c, you have 6 vt/ttys F1-F6
[14:42] <Prelude2004c> looks like a bug from before.. working now.. duhh
[14:42] <Prelude2004c> thank you blueskaj
[14:43] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F1-F6 Prelude2004c or am I on the wrong tracj here
[14:43] <BluesKaj> track
[14:44] <matt856> Hi guys.  A few weeks ago I set up a task with Cron for rsync to save my server files from my drive 1 to my drive 2 on my unbuntu server. For the first few days it was working great. I checked today and I found out that I got an e-mail from my server https://paste.ubuntu.com/23905542/. Can you tell me what's wrong and help fix the prolem ? THank yo
[14:44] <matt856> u for your help
[14:46] <anddam> I installed a second efi bootloader by running "grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --boot-directory=/boot/backup --bootloader-id=backup" and I then generated /boot/backup/grub/grub.cfg with grub-mkconfig, the file seems to be ok but upon starting this "backup" bootloader the config file of ubuntu's default bootloader is read instead, that is /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:46] <anddam> what am I doing wrong?
[14:48] <Jharm> my issue was the line added by CA certificate in .conf file, once i erased it i was able to restart apache again.
[14:48] <Kali_Yuga> hi is there a simple audio recorder? i want to test my mic quality.
[14:50] <Kali_Yuga> oh k got it
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Kali_Yuga, audacity
[14:50] <matt856> Hi guys.  A few weeks ago I set up a task with Cron for rsync to save my server files from my drive 1 to my drive 2 on my unbuntu server. For the first few days it was working great. I checked today and I found out that I got an e-mail from my server https://paste.ubuntu.com/23905542/. Can you tell me what's wrong and help fix the prolem ? THank yo
[14:50] <Kali_Yuga> arecord via terminal does the trick
[14:50] <matt856> u for your help
[14:51] <Pici> matt856: did it work?
[14:52] <matt856> Pici Did you tell me to do something ? I didn't see your answer
[14:52] <Pici> matt856: Did the cronjob work?
[14:52] <matt856> Yes for a few days only
[14:53] <matt856> I can see that the last backup happened on january 23. From january 17 to january 23 it worked
[14:53] <Pici> matt856: is that the entire email that you got?
[14:54] <matt856> well I entered more/var/mail/zebux to check it. I'm a noob. How do I check the entire mail ?
[14:55] <ppf> matt856: mail
[14:55] <matt856> ppf : it says mail: command not found
[14:57] <matt856> I just install mailutils
[14:59] <matt856> This is the entire mail : https://paste.ubuntu.com/23905602/
[15:00] <ppf> looks fine
[15:00] <CRogers> Are there plans to change alt-drag window dragging behaviour of Unity to Super-drag?
[15:00] <CRogers> Because it really interferes with a lot of graphics applications.
[15:00] <CRogers> And it's embarassing having to hunt down tweaks to fix it.
[15:00] <CRogers> When trying to convert people from other platforms.
[15:01] <matt856> pff I know ! But the files are not on my second hardrive !
[15:01] <matt856> ppf not pff
[15:01] <matt856> sorry about that
[15:01] <Kali_Yuga> BluesKaj: k used audacity thx. my voice crackles with arecord
[15:01] <matt856> ppf : I know, but the files are not on my second hardrive !
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Kali_Yuga, arecord works, it might be more sensitive to your input device like a mic
[15:03] <BluesKaj> audacity gives more control over the volume
[15:03] <matt856> ppf I found in another email this message https://paste.ubuntu.com/23905611/
[15:03] <noc_> CRogers, try #ubuntu-devel channel
[15:03] <k1l> CRogers: alt+drag is the standard on linux desktops, iirc.
[15:03] <CRogers> noc_: thanks, willdo
[15:04] <k1l> CRogers: and i dont know what should be embarassing about it
[15:09] <user109532> how do i empty trash as su?
[15:10] <user109532> trashed a file while running nautilus with sudo and now i cant empty trash
[15:10] <dil3mm4> Hello
[15:11] <nicomachus> user109532: what do you mean running nautilus with sudo? you mean gksudo?
[15:11] <dil3mm4> I'm experiencing probs with openssh
[15:11] <dil3mm4> I just can't connect to it remotely
[15:11] <dil3mm4> someone has some spare time to help me out?
[15:11] <nicomachus> dil3mm4: do you get an error message?
[15:11] <dil3mm4> just a connection timeout
[15:11] <user109532> nicomachus: just sudo. i know its a bad practice but laziness happens
[15:12] <nicomachus> dil3mm4: do you have physical access to the machine you're trying to connect to?
[15:12] <CRogers> k1l: it's embarassing when you're showing someone how great Linux is for creative work on a fresh install and forget that you haven't remapped that key, so it doesn't work in *any* of your graphics applications.
[15:12] <k1l> user109532: gksudo nautilus /home/your_username/.local/share/Trash
[15:12] <k1l>     # change the path to match your username
[15:12] <dil3mm4> nicomachus: via teamviewer
[15:13] <fiter> dil3mm4:  this is for remote access ??
[15:13] <CRogers> k1l: It was always a bad idea to alt-drag. wm actions should be mapped to the super key (like most of them already are)
[15:13] <nicomachus> dil3mm4: ok. 1st make sure it's on. then make sure you are using the correct user@host address. Then make sure that port 22 is open.
[15:13] <user109532> kil: aha thanks
[15:13] <k1l> CRogers: that is your opinion on that matter.
[15:14] <dil3mm4> nicomachus: already done
[15:14] <xangua> Most of them?
[15:14] <fiter> I want to access a system remotely having ubuntu 15.10 installed , how it can be possible ??
[15:15] <k1l> fiter: uh, 15.10 is dead. you should make sure to upgrade that box to 16.04 very soon.
[15:15] <CRogers> k1l: Yes, it is. Though I'm not the only one who has that oppinion. Clearly it's advantageous to use the Super key to seperate wm actions from applicaiton actions.
[15:16] <noc_> CRogers, I have unity here, not xfce, but alt+drag works here in various apps, what do you mean exactly?
[15:16] <noc_> CRogers, I have xfce not unity... sorry
[15:16] <k1l> noc_: he wants nothing to use alt key because his apps use alt key.
[15:17] <CRogers> noc_: alt-drag for moving windows overides applicaiton-level control.
[15:17] <fiter> k1l:  If I start upgrading then will it not disfunct other already runing tools ???
[15:17] <CRogers> k1l: Not true. alt can be used as long as the super key is also used for wm actions.
[15:18] <k1l> fiter: you have no choice of running 15.10 anymore. it was a bad decision to use 15.10 and not upgrade it.
[15:18] <mcphail> CRogers: whilst i, personally, agree with your reasoning, Unity is just performing the expected behaviour for a Linux desktop. Alt-drag is standard. By all means, file a bug report but I don't think you'll get much agreement
[15:18] <fiter> k1l: I will soon upgrade but currently my tools are running
[15:18] <CRogers> mcphail: Thanks for the advice. I'll do that.
[15:19] <k1l> fiter: an upgrade will need a restart then.
[15:19] <fiter> thats what i can't afford at the moment
[15:19] <fiter> so within this is there a solution to access the system remotely ??
[15:20] <k1l> fiter: your machine is heavily insecure. look at ubuntu.com/usn which shows all recent security updates you dont get anymore. since july 2016, to be precise
[15:21] <fiter> k1l:  I accept that
[15:21] <CRogers> noc_: So for example, Blender uses the alt-drag hotkey for rotating the view. GIMP uses it to constrain proportions while resizing. In all graphics applications alt, shift, ctrl keys are used as modifiers for the action you are performing on-canvas.
[15:21] <k1l> fiter: use ssh to connect remotely.
[15:21] <CRogers> noc_: So it's a big problem when the wm has usurped it. :)
[15:21] <charlie_one> Y am I losing internet-connection though wifi-connection is ok?
[15:21] <fiter> but what you will do when you have run a software for research and that will perform its activity through the whole night ??
[15:22] <fiter> k1l:  what about team viewer ?
[15:22] <anddam> I have a grub-efi bootloader whose grub.cfg loads /boot/backup/grub/grub.cfg, yet when I run it it reads /boot/grub/grub.cfg , why is this?
[15:22] <charlie_one> no logic to this problem. sometimes I'm online for days and sometimes only for a few minutes
[15:22] <k1l> fiter: use a LTS release in the first place. dont put that machine on the internet.
[15:23] <fiter> k1l: ok , what can be the security threats as you are refering again and again because I am a beginner ?
[15:24] <k1l> fiter: look at ubuntu.com/usn
[15:36] <stainyo> hi ppl
[15:36] <Scoop7> Hey, anyone knows how to convert pdf to editable word format in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[15:36] <stainyo> look for a PDF editor
[15:37] <Scoop7> need open source
[15:37] <stainyo> I know.. in your download options
[15:37] <stainyo> software padckages
[15:38] <JP____> Hey anyone here have any experience with resetting password in windows 10 from ubuntu?
[15:38] <mcphail> Scoop7: I haven't found any good conversion software. The Libreoffice conversion works for some PDFs but most of them don't work well. I've relied on online tools (non-open source)
[15:38] <NDBoosty> hey folks
[15:38] <NDBoosty> hey folks so given the recent gitlab issues with their outage it got me thinkat work on how to force a bash prompt on prod servers... is there a way to do this and override any users bash prompt no matter what
[15:38] <stainyo> oh!!! it's called PDFmod or modPDF
[15:38] <Scoop7> non open source, but free ? mcphail  ?
[15:39] <stainyo> it's on my ubuntu at home
[15:39] <mcphail> Scoop7: it was the last time I used it. it's on my bookmarks list at home. I'll see if I can dig it out as it always gave me decent results. But I haven't used it for a long time
[15:40] <stainyo> how can I backup my android phone to ubuntu then restore it ?
[15:40] <Scoop7> mcphail: thanks for that ! stainyo: this pdf mod seems to only edit pdf but does not the ability to convert to word ?
[15:40] <ducasse> NDBoosty: what do you mean by 'force a bash prompt'?
[15:41] <stainyo> covert to word...  copy and paste
[15:41] <NDBoosty> ducasse: baasically some visual indicator to notate were working on a production system, maybe as simple as forcing a ps1 color like red
[15:41] <NDBoosty> but not sure how to override anything a user sets in their own .bashrc or .bash_profile
[15:41] <mcphail> Scoop7: I think it was Zamzar which gave me the best results. Online, non FLOSS but free-as-in-beer-if-you-ignore-privacy-concerns
[15:42] <stainyo> how do you backup/restore android with ubuntu ?
[15:42] <ducasse> NDBoosty: no, i doubt that's possible.
[15:42] <JP____> Hey anyone here have any experience with resetting password in windows 10 from ubuntu?
[15:42] <ppf> NDBoosty: you can edit PS1 to show whatever you want it to
[15:42] <NDBoosty> ppf yes i know i was thinking about using something in /etc/profile.d/ or similar but not sure how to hook in after the users .bashrc or .bash_profile is ran
[15:43] <k1l> NDBoosty: you mean the motd?
[15:43] <stainyo> windows password hack help...   http://www.hackcave.net/2015/10/hack-windows-10-login-password-in-2.html
[15:43] <k1l> JP____: i guess you better ask the ##windows guys how to reset a windows password at all.
[15:43] <NDBoosty> egh were looking for something that shows up repeatedly
[15:43] <NDBoosty> like the bash prompt, coloring it red
[15:44] <NDBoosty> but a user can override that by changing their PS1 var to whatever
[15:44] <NDBoosty> and for prod systems i want to force it and not allow the user to change it
[15:45] <ducasse> NDBoosty: ask in #bash
[15:46] <anddam> no love for UEFI?
[15:46] <MWM> Ive got a program that autostarts (and it shouldnt).  It isnt listed in the autostarts and I havent set it to in any other way
[15:46] <MWM> Any idea how I would stop this from happening
[15:47] <ducasse> NDBoosty: but given that a user can change their shell i can't really see how to do this
[15:47] <NDBoosty> thx ducasse ill ask there
[15:47] <NDBoosty> ducasse maybe is there some place that you can place a script to run after the .bashrc or .bash_profile
[15:47] <anddam> MWM: who is its PPID?
[15:47] <NDBoosty> and then just override the PS1
[15:48] <ducasse> NDBoosty: what if the user switches to fish or zsh?
[15:48] <MWM> checking...
[15:48] <NDBoosty> we dont have those installed
[15:48] <NDBoosty> just bash is installed.
[15:48] <ducasse> NDBoosty: they can install in their homedir
[15:48] <NDBoosty> and we dont provide those OOB if they are installed we start asking questions
[15:49] <NDBoosty> im not worried about them changing prompts because we never do...
[15:49] <NDBoosty> sorry shells*
[15:51] <BianryDragon> test
[15:51] <BianryDragon> Hello team
[15:51] <BianryDragon> how are we doing
[15:51] <ducasse> NDBoosty: you _can_ 'chattr +i' their bashrc and set the prompt there, but that will prevent them from changing the file at all
[15:53] <MWM> Im using TOP to find the PPID... cant seem to find the sort option quickly
[15:53] <NDBoosty> not a help with TOP but i prefer htop
[15:53] <NDBoosty> filtering, sorting etc
[15:53] <NDBoosty> i think top is z or h to show
[15:54] <NDBoosty> nope its ?
[15:54] <MWM> Found my PPID... just had to do it the old fashioned way with my eyes :)
[15:55] <NDBoosty> o<key>         Set primary sort key to <key>: [+-]keyname.
[15:55] <NDBoosty>                          Keyname may be:{pid|command|cpu|csw|time|threads|
[15:55] <NDBoosty>                          ports|mregion|rprvt|rshrd|rsize|vsize|vprvt|pgrp|
[15:55] <NDBoosty>                          ppid|state|uid|wq|faults|cow|user|msgsent|msgrecv|
[15:55] <NDBoosty>                          sysbsd|sysmach|pageins}.
[15:55] <NDBoosty> so o, then +keyname
[15:57] <dagold> Hi guys, I'm trying to mount my second hardrive in my ubuntu server and I get this message https://paste.ubuntu.com/23905809/
[15:58] <MWM> dagold what options are you using to mount ?  also are you certain that everything is okay with the drive (no bad blocks or errors and that it is partitioned properly?)
[15:58] <k1l> dagold: mount this there. and what FS is on that partition? can you show the dmesg output on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:00] <dagold> MWM I used sudo mount
[16:00] <MWM> mount needs more options than that.  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/mount.8.html
[16:01] <ducasse> not if that mount is in fstab
[16:01] <dagold> MWM it is partitioned correctly but I don't know about about blocks. How do I check it ? K1l I'm a noob, what is FS ?
[16:01] <nicomachus> whoa.
[16:01] <MWM> FS is filesystem.  Is the drive going to be mounted at every boot?
[16:02] <MWM> if you want to mount every boot then you will need to put it in the fstab https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[16:05] <dagold> MWM yes It will be mounted at everyboot
[16:07] <MWM> dagold to automount you will need to edit the fstab (/etc/fstab).  It can be tough at first, but it will amke sense the more you work with it
[16:09] <MWM> Ive still got a program that is running at every startup and shouldnt.  It is not listed in Autostarts or in anywhere else.  Anyone got a clue?
[16:10] <pavlos> MWM, can you use 'locate' to find all occurrences of that file?
[16:11] <MWM> Im gonna have to do some reading on locate, but what will I be looking for?
[16:13] <compdoc> MWM, mi9ght check /etc/crontab
[16:13] <pavlos> MWM, first ... sudo updatedb to get an updated db, then locate <myfile> you can also grep for bin like, locate <myfile> | grep bin
[16:14] <pavlos> MWM, there may be a /bin/myfile which if you dont want to run at startup, drop the execution bit
[16:14] <MWM> Im going to have to sort out the output here, but right now I dont se any /bin entries
[16:14] <MWM> also no entry in /etc/crontab
[16:15] <ducasse> MWM: what is it that runs on startup exactly?
[16:15] <MWM> Handbrake is what is running at startup... odd right?
[16:16] <pavlos> MWM, anything in /etc/rc.local ?
[16:16] <MWM> nothing in /etc/rc.local
[16:18] <ducasse> MWM: try a recursive grep through ~/.local and ~/.config
[16:20] <MWM> sudo locate <file> | grep _R ~/.local ~/.config ?
[16:20] <ikevin> MWM, do a grep -ri "handbrake" on the whole /
[16:20] <BianryDragon> locate might be outdatd
[16:20] <ikevin> locate is needed only if you know the script name
[16:21] <BianryDragon> should prob use find
[16:21] <ikevin> grep -rni "handbrake" ~/
[16:22] <waltman> Is this a problem with this post? It's not showing up under "my activity" and it's only had 1 view in 13 hours. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2351181
[16:22] <MWM> grep -ri "ghb" ~/ is bringing up everything Ive ever encoded with it
[16:22] <MWM> been going for a couple minutes now
[16:23] <waltman> I had an error when I originally posted it. I'm wondering if something happened to that only I can view it.
[16:24] <BianryDragon> .
[16:26] <MWM> still going.  I guess I dont quite understand how grep works because I dont see why it is going through all these files
[16:26] <gimpy> it
[16:27] <EriC^^> grep is a fun command
[16:27] <BianryDragon> sure
[16:27] <fiter> I am getting this error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:28] <BianryDragon> wa
[16:28] <ikevin> fiter, can you pastebin the entire log?
[16:28] <MWM> yeah it seems pretty versatile.  I rarely need it so its kinda foreign
[16:28] <erm3nda> Hi. I have problem with Login from last session. A message is telling me that "bashrc cant read .profile file". Profile file exists. What can i check?
[16:28] <pavlos> MWM, handbrake has a /usr/bin/ghb and /usr/bin/handbrake and other files
[16:28] <EriC^^> erm3nda: try checking the permissions of ~/.profile
[16:28] <ikevin> erm3nda, check the owner
[16:29] <pavlos> MWM, you can install apt-file, then apt-file list handbrake
[16:29] <erm3nda> owner me, perms like other files
[16:29] <erm3nda> i also had been removed from sudoers. So i have enter "solo" mode then add me back to sudo group
[16:29] <erm3nda> seems i broke something with a wrong useradd command last time
[16:30] <EriC^^> erm3nda: what was the command?
[16:30] <fiter> ikevin:  here it is https://paste.ofcode.org/wN6Gv8g3Q6N2YKhmcMPAk2
[16:30] <al8989> hello i just installed kubuntu 16.04 and I am trying to install drivers for my rtl8187b based usb wireless adapter but forget how i did it in ubuntu 14.04 a few years ago does anyone have instructions?  I am trying to do this without connecting the computer to wired internet.
[16:30] <al8989> I did it before, but I forgot how i did it.
[16:30] <erm3nda> EriC^^, i think was useradd m3nda wireshark or somewhat similar
[16:30] <ikevin> fiter, you have an error while downloading a file from oracle server
[16:30] <erm3nda> finally i used usermod m3nda -a -G wireshark
[16:31] <erm3nda> that's the only thing i could figure that broke system. i didn't anything more thatn that
[16:31] <MWM> well whatdya know there is a usr/bin/handbrake.  I had wrongly thought everything was listed under ghb
[16:31] <fiter> ikevin:  yes but how to solve it ?
[16:32] <ikevin> fiter, it look like package oracle-jdk8-installer is broken
[16:32] <erm3nda> whats the appropiate log to start searching?
[16:32] <fiter> so is there any alternate ? ikevin
[16:32] <EriC^^> erm3nda: check /etc/passwd to see if it looks fine
[16:32] <erm3nda> could i just create my user with the most default data?
[16:32] <erm3nda> ok
[16:33] <EmberCrest> So I've got a 500gb WD MyPassport device plugged into my computer, to store my workplace's source code.
[16:33] <EmberCrest> I've encrypted the device with LUKS
[16:33] <erm3nda> m3nda:x:1000:1000:m3nda,,,:/home/m3nda:/bin/bash
[16:33] <ikevin> fiter, you can use the install method from oracle, or uninstall jdk if you don't need it
[16:33] <erm3nda> gid sounds ok. what should i search for?
[16:33] <EmberCrest> what precautions should I take with this device if its encrypted with LUKS?
[16:34] <EmberCrest> in terms of preventing data loss upon removing the USB
[16:34] <erm3nda> EmberCrest, don't try to modify its partition with gparted :-)
[16:34] <EriC^^> erm3nda: it looks good, is the ~/.profile "sane" ?
[16:34] <ikevin> erm3nda, try if "source .profile" return an error
[16:34] <erm3nda> EmberCrest, use dd for that kind of Partitions
[16:34] <EmberCrest> I used the Disks utility but alright, I've taken note of that precaution
[16:34] <erm3nda> i did it few minutes ago, source just ok
[16:34] <erm3nda> no problems shown
[16:35] <erm3nda> is the .profile file the one "not found"
[16:35] <EriC^^> erm3nda: how about /etc/profile?
[16:35] <erm3nda> source it?
[16:35] <EriC^^> yeah give it a shot
[16:35] <erm3nda> is ok too, i see it seems ok
[16:35] <EmberCrest> When you unlock the device, and it mounts, is all data passing into it automatically encrypted?
[16:36] <EriC^^> erm3nda: when do you get this error msg?
[16:36] <MWM> finally got a list of all the handbrake files apt-file is pretty nifty :)
[16:36] <EmberCrest> And does it need to be locked before you remove the device?
[16:36] <erm3nda> at Login stage
[16:36] <erm3nda> let me verify what if relogin
[16:37] <littlebenj> hi
[16:37] <MWM> looks like there is a .desktop for it.  Ill have a look and see if that is why it is autostarting.  Is there anything else I should look for?
[16:37] <littlebenj> how dod i know the last installl date of my package ?
[16:37] <EriC^^> MWM: ~/.config/autostart has files for starting up programs
[16:37] <EriC^^> if you're on unity open the dash and type "startup"
[16:38] <littlebenj> how do i know the last installl date of my package ?
[16:38] <MWM> Eric^^ Handbrake is autostarting but it shouldnt be.  Nothing in Autostarts, nohing in rc.local or ~/.config
[16:39] <EriC^^> MWM: just your user?
[16:39] <MWM> nothing in crotab either
[16:39] <MWM> I am the only user
[16:39] <EriC^^> !info handbrake
[16:39] <EriC^^> does it start if you try the guest session?
[16:39] <ikevin> littlebenj, you can use "dpkg -L <package>" to get a list of files, then do a ls -l on one file to see the last modified date
[16:41] <MWM> Im set to autologin... I just tried to logout to the login screen but Im getting a black screen.  Ill need a minute
[16:42] <erm3nda> EriC^^, was totally my fault
[16:42] <erm3nda> was not the bashrc who called the .profile
[16:43] <erm3nda> seems the system sources all finles in a single command
[16:43] <erm3nda> and i added an alias with $1 outside the alias="" pattern
[16:43] <erm3nda> so seems that $1 becomed the file itself or something like that
[16:43] <EriC^^> erm3nda: oh ok
[16:43] <erm3nda> i've added the $1 on it's place and now is working. thank you for your time
[16:44] <EriC^^> erm3nda: cool, np
[16:44] <EriC^^> MWM: ok
[16:44] <erm3nda> alias srecord=" avconv -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1366x768 -i :0.0 -c:v libx264 $1 "
[16:44] <erm3nda> so i can record screen without more app's install :-)
[16:44] <MWM> I guess I dont have an option to login as a guest? I finally got to the login screen and there is 0 guest options
[16:45] <MWM> Kubuntu 16.04 BTW
[16:45] <EriC^^> erm3nda: :)
[16:45] <erm3nda> MWM it's not just under the Login box? as a text link?
[16:46] <MWM> Only my user is accessible.  Login box and password box reboot and shutdown are the only options
[16:46] <ikevin> MWM, try with an empty home
[16:47] <erm3nda> MWM https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1238605
[16:47] <erm3nda> Kuser
[16:47] <erm3nda> it is that channel good for Kubuntu users? :-X
[16:47] <MWM> thanks.  looks like I will have to set up a guest account! :)
[16:47] <erm3nda> yes
[16:48] <veysiubuntu> hi
[16:50] <EriC^^> MWM: try "grep -iHR handbrake /etc"
[16:53] <MWM> grep -iHR handbrake /etc returns no such file or directory
[16:54] <EriC^^> MWM: what about "grep -iHR handbrake ~/"
[16:55] <MWM> oh damnit anyway.  adding the guest account is messing up my ability to access the headless machine remotely
[16:55] <MWM> nm.  got it
[16:57] <MWM> grep -iHR handbrake ~/ is causing the terminal to hang
[16:59] <Guest30671> hello, does anyone know if I can reach ubuntu system files (var, etc) from another ubuntu installation on same PC? :)
[16:59] <ph88> i try to remove all files in subdirectories that are not of a certain extension, but  rm is not taking it saying  "missing operand" when i try to use pipe like this:    find . -not -name "*.vhdl" -type f | rm
[16:59] <Guest30671> did you try adding rm -r ? maybe that helps?
[17:00] <rifter> Guest30671, yes you can reach them if you can mount the filesystem they are on
[17:01] <Guest30671> so I need to find out where it is located.. ok I can google that thanks :)
[17:01] <rifter> ph88, yeah you need to use -r to do subdirectories. I would include -v so you can see what you just nuked
[17:01] <rifter> Guest30671, well it's not hard to find where they are
[17:01] <Pici> ph88: don't pipe the output from find to rm, either use find's -delete, or look at using xargs.
[17:01] <MWM> rm -R for subdirectories
[17:01] <Pici> ph88: personally the -delete argument is the easiest way of doing this.
[17:02] <ppf> ph88: find -delete
[17:02] <MWM> I am gonna have to move on for today.  Ill stop back in if I cant get this one figured out .  THanks for helping guys :)
[17:03] <rifter> Guest30671, if you do dmesg | grep -E "sd[a-z]"
[17:03] <rifter> you'll see all the disks
[17:04] <rifter> Guest30671, any of those that is a hard disk you can do for example: sfdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:04] <rifter> Guest30671, that will show you the partitions on it
[17:04] <ppf> just sfdik -l will suffice
[17:05] <rifter> Pici, I agree
[17:05] <Guest30671> okay thanks a lot :) I will check it
[17:06] <Guest30671> okay that's great I found them all thanks a lot :)
[17:14] <domdagen> exit
[17:16] <kang0> (kang0) What's difference between bootable and non bootable os
[17:20] <bot_> sss
[17:22] <bigpic> hey guys.. I’m trying to increase the Max open files on a webserver box.. I’ve read a ton of howtos
[17:22] <Amis> Hi! Is it possible to focus to a certain window using keyboard shortcuts? Like I have a very specific active program running on a desktop and if I press Alt+9 it focuses on it
[17:22] <bigpic> ulimit -n is reporting 65536
[17:22] <EriC^^> kang0: every os has to be bootable some way, do you mean a bootable iso?
[17:22] <bigpic> but doing a cat /proc/1408/limits reports 1024
[17:22] <bigpic> for the same user
[17:22] <bigpic> why/how are they different?
[17:22] <kang0> I am not sure what's meaning of bootable
[17:22] <bigpic> any suggestions on how to fix?
[17:23] <kang0> Is it so that only os can become bootable?
[17:23] <kang0> Music or video or other data can't become bootable? EriC^^
[17:23] <FManTropyx> I can make a demo that is bootable
[17:24] <erm3nda> Amis, you can use king of autokey softwares then script them to found your desired window, if exists, while exists
[17:24] <Amis> erm3nda, sounds like it would work
[17:24] <EriC^^> kang0: well yes, let me explain bootable, bootable usually means there's some bootloader that the pc's bios executes and hands over the execution to it so it does whatever it wants
[17:25] <erm3nda> Amis, i found xdotool small and powerfull, take a look at http://blog.rot13.org/2010/07/focus-window-by-name-using-xdotool-and-awesome-window-manager.html
[17:25] <kang0> FManTropyx how
[17:25] <EriC^^> kang0: it's just some code that does something after the bios sees it and says ok you can take control of the pc now
[17:25] <Amis> erm3nda, thanks
[17:25] <erm3nda> just google focus x windows and found my little and nice xdotool :-)
[17:26] <erm3nda> simple dead
[17:26] <Amis> Question 2: (Ubuntu server 16 LTS 64bit, 8GB ram, 8 cores) I'm experiencing constant OOMs on said machine but the OOM log doesn't make sense as the VM is ~4GB and the total RSS is 500MB. What are some lesser known, non-trivial causes of such OOMs?
[17:26] <FManTropyx> by making a bootloader for any program of my choosing
[17:26] <Amis> Same configuration on a 4 core, 32bit 4GB machine does not produce this
[17:26] <erm3nda> FManTropyx, a demo of what?
[17:27] <erm3nda> You can get any damn small linux, slitaz, tiny core, that are already bootable, then add your shit
[17:27] <The_Myth> guys, lemme ask a question. I can install any Ubuntu flavour into SD card and boot it from there, right? I know the SD card won't last long, but it's just for testing purposes.
[17:27] <FManTropyx> anything
[17:27] <nacc> Amis: pastebin the oom log?
[17:27] <erm3nda> oom killer is a bitch
[17:27] <nacc> !language | erm3nda
[17:27] <erm3nda> sorry
[17:27] <erm3nda> oom killer is a big beach
[17:27] <erm3nda> :-B
[17:28] <kang0> FManTropyx how to make bootloader
[17:28] <Amis> nacc, unfortunately I do not have access to it right know but I'm interested as what else could be it. Even with overcommit enabled it just kills a random high mem user for no reason. Swap is almost always unused
[17:28]  * nlsthzn can't help but think OOM = out of mana #fanatsyproblems
[17:28] <erm3nda> The_Myth, u should use USB creators for that, that usually ships with syslinux boot
[17:29] <erm3nda> Amis, you may tweak the swapiness
[17:29] <erm3nda> it is you sure it's mounted?
[17:29] <ducasse> kang0: what are you actually trying to do?
[17:29] <FManTropyx> kang0, http://wiki.osdev.org/Bootloader
[17:29] <erm3nda> u can set oom score to certaing things you don't wanna see diying
[17:29] <Amis> erm3nda, it is. As I remember it's around 2GB and some 50MB are sometimes used
[17:29] <erm3nda> Amis, case of extreme, you can install monit then shutdown processes not used "that you know" you can
[17:29] <Amis> erm3nda, what I don't get is that nothing seems out of place. The memory usage BARELY reached 600MB
[17:30] <The_Myth> but it's possible indeed, correct? but sooner or later the SD card will burn. :x
[17:30] <erm3nda> Amis, all is on the logs. there's a reason for it, find it
[17:30] <kang0> ducasse understanding
[17:30] <erm3nda> The_Myth,yes, but there are tweaks for that
[17:30] <erm3nda> like the noatime
[17:30] <erm3nda> to reduce commits to memory then play more "into the ram"
[17:30] <erm3nda> actually, ssd and eMMC are sdcard with special controllers
[17:31] <erm3nda> the key is that ssd and eMMC are not shitty memories with class2/4/6
[17:31] <erm3nda> class 10 mega product from sandisk can be wrote MILLIONS times. The range between cycles vary so much
[17:31] <nacc> Amis: an OOM is a failure to allocate a page in the kernel, the log is very important
[17:32] <nacc> Amis: the order of the allocation matters, e.g.
[17:32] <erm3nda> also, the special eMMC / SSD controllers, does a smart usage of blocks to avoid kill them at all, and inodes can be relocated on the fly
[17:32] <erm3nda> inodes don't lost info at all, just becomed unwritable when reaches limits
[17:32] <erm3nda> the bigger is your device, the more time it will live
[17:33] <erm3nda> i am actuall under 32Gb eMMC. :-) i wont see it diying please don0t scare me
[17:33] <erm3nda> I used SD card to boot Debian7 into wm8505 SOC device and worked from YEARS with no problem
[17:34] <erm3nda> for* years
[17:37] <sirv> when i use sd cards or usb disks as primary partition they always fail soon
[17:38] <sirv> all the time system gets corrupted
[17:38] <sirv> *file system
[17:38] <compdoc> usb isnt reliable for always on devices
[17:39] <kang0> EriC^^ What's bootable iso
[17:39] <Amis> erm3nda, nacc: I managed to acquire a log of an OOM: http://pastebin.com/6FQ9wcSU
[17:39] <erm3nda> sirv, seems you used bad memorys, with noatime, and you used them so much
[17:39] <erm3nda> all vary on the quality, and usage
[17:39] <erm3nda> but yes, are made to die :-)
[17:39] <BlueProtoman> On Ubuntu 16.10, the menus for some (but not all) Qt-using applications are distorted.  More details here.  http://askubuntu.com/q/878736/61195  Any tips?
[17:40] <EriC^^> kang0: it's an image that has a special code so it can boot if you plug it into the pc when it starts
[17:40] <erm3nda> sirv,  im sure you can add somo virtual controller for the memory card, like commit at shutdown or whatever
[17:40] <kang0> What's mbr and vbr
[17:40] <erm3nda> never digg into that
[17:40] <erm3nda> u can use software raid then attach 4sd cards
[17:40] <erm3nda> then replace them in the order they die :-)
[17:41] <erm3nda> buy using SSD will be more profitable
[17:42] <erm3nda> Amis, it is you compiling?
[17:42] <erm3nda> is cc1plus the one who ate your memory
[17:43] <Amis> erm3nda, yes but that does not matter in this case as without it a program will still die
[17:43] <Amis> There are several other cases where the machine is idling and that highest consumer is davmail doing nothing (4GB VM, 200MB RSS)
[17:44] <nacc> Amis: hrm, that does look odd
[17:44] <Amis> erm3nda, where exactly does it show me that the compilation ate all of the 8GB? I'm adding up RSS and it doesn't reach it
[17:44] <erm3nda> Amis, look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/371302/make-my-ubuntu-use-more-swap-than-ram/371329#371329
[17:44] <ducasse> kang0: we do ubuntu support here, i'm sure there are more appropriate places for such general questions. mbr = master boot record, vbr = variable bitrate.
[17:44] <erm3nda> well, im not sure about that, i just know that is the compiling process the one
[17:44] <Amis> Note: overcommit is enabled
[17:45] <erm3nda> it is you compiling GTAV ? XD
[17:45] <nacc> Amis: it's an order-2 allocation, that fails, but there seem to be sufficient 16K pages for that
[17:45] <nacc> erm3nda: that's inaccurate.
[17:45] <nacc> erm3nda: the oom killer kills the compiler
[17:45] <erm3nda> yes
[17:45] <nacc> erm3nda: but the cause is main.rb
[17:45] <nacc> erm3nda: in this particular instance
[17:45] <Amis> OOM just kills the highest consumer, is all
[17:45] <Amis> But there are plenty of RSS available
[17:45] <nacc> Amis: for some definitions of 'highest'
[17:45] <nacc> Amis: that's irrelevant to the OOM killer
[17:46] <nacc> Amis: OOM is a kernel-level decision, not related to RSS (technically)
[17:46] <Amis> All I can think of is heacy memory fragmentation for some reason
[17:46] <erm3nda> Amis, you can set oom score then let it life
[17:46] <nacc> Amis: right, but you can see in the output that node 0 normal has at least a few 16K pages (and larger)
[17:46] <erm3nda> Amis, read that http://backdrift.org/oom-killer-how-to-create-oom-exclusions-in-linux
[17:47] <Amis> erm3nda, I don't want to exclude programs because then it will kill something else
[17:47] <erm3nda> Did u perform a ram check? full memory test i mean
[17:47] <Amis> I want to fix the source of the OOM
[17:48] <nacc> Amis: fwiw, there's only about 135M of free memory per the kernel at the time of hte failure
[17:48] <Amis> nacc, and which part of the log should I examine for the consumers?
[17:49] <erm3nda>  main.rb Not tainted, cant help you with that
[17:50] <nacc> Amis: but there is a lot of reclaimable slab and cached pages, so it's weird still
[17:50] <Amis> There is only one (big) difference between this machine (8GB 64b, 8core) and the old one (4GB 32b, 4core) and that this one has software raid, a kernel module working in the shadows
[17:51] <nacc> Amis: it is true that there is no free memory of the order you need in zone DMA, but the flags don't indicate only DMA shold be used
[17:54] <Amis> I'm clueless
[17:55] <nacc> Amis: and, finally, oddly, it seems like the OOM killer didn't actually attempt to reclaim (if i remember my oom parsing correctly)
[17:55] <nacc> Amis: you might be best off filing a bug and seeing if the kernel team can help
[17:56] <nacc> Amis: or there might even be an ubuntu-kernel channel (or you could ask in a kernel channel generally)
[17:56] <Amis> nacc, thanks. I'll try
[17:58] <nacc> Amis: was that the *first* OOM in the log?
[17:58] <Amis> nacc, no, there are about 50 or so
[17:58] <nacc> Amis: yes, that' a problem
[17:58] <nacc> Amis: you need the first one
[17:59] <nacc> Amis: everythiung else gets lost in the noise, as the kernel has already started freaking out once you've OOMed once (potentially)
[18:02] <_MoBeats_> Afternoon. I'd like to know what are the hardware requirements for MAAS and Autopilot servers. Had a good look on ubuntu.com but can't see the info anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
[18:03] <pavan> raspberrypi   error   No wireless interface found".
[18:03] <ducasse> _MoBeats_: try #ubuntu-server
[18:03] <_MoBeats_> will do thanks ducasse
[18:04] <Amis> This is the very first OOM I could find: http://pastebin.com/YgDFK4JQ
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> _MoBeats_  start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/311410/maas-minimum-requirements-with-juju-jitsu
[18:05] <nacc> Amis: what architecture is the sytem?
[18:05] <_MoBeats_> thanks Amis.
[18:05] <_MoBeats_> I mean MonkeyDust, thanks.
[18:06] <Amis> nacc, x86_64
[18:08] <nacc> Amis: k, again in that one, there seems to be normal-zone 16k pages available, are you sure that's the first OOM that happens?
[18:09] <Amis> nacc, I'm digging in log files now. Might take a while
[18:11] <nacc> Amis: ah, it seems like all of the zone_normal pages might be marked 'H' (which means rserved for high-order atomic allocations, which this one is not
[18:11] <nacc> Amis: i wonder if that is what is happening (that feature is 'new' relative to the last time i was an active kernel dev)
[18:12] <back> ciao
[18:12] <nacc> Amis: it feels like reclaim failed on your system, that's what needs debugging
[18:12] <Amis> nacc, I have zero knowledge of such thing unfortunately
[18:12] <nacc> Amis: right, which is why i suggest talking to folks that would (either via a kernel channel or a bug)
[18:12] <Guest35760> come cambiare lingua sull firefox
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> !es
[18:13] <gde33> is there any way to make the launch bar more responsive?
[18:14] <gde33> if often doesn't show when moving the mouse to the left
[18:14] <Amis> I found the very first OOM in the syslog but it doesn't seem to be any different: http://pastebin.com/R1SfbBCu
[18:16] <[twisti]> ever since i installed LTS 16.04 on my machine, i have been experiencing multi second lag spikes. anyone got any idea how to best debug such an issue ?
[18:17] <baizon> [twisti]: check system monitor
[18:18] <nacc> Amis: except in that case, i think you can see that there are no order-2 pages (or larger) in DMA32 or Normal
[18:18] <nacc> Amis: which implies intense fragmentation
[18:18] <nacc> Amis: there is DMA32 available, but i wonder if that is being held in reserve for actual DMA consumers (in case)
[18:19] <[twisti]> baizon: what is that and where do i find it ?
[18:19] <Amis> nacc, if it really is fragmentation then I will not be able to track it down
[18:20] <erkinacar5> hello, i have this weird thing going on.. today I crashed a 15.10 ubuntu server (I don't know how, suddenly it started saying "you don't have permission to use x" and x is everything). apparently there is another ubuntu installed on another partition... so the question is, can I somehow recover first ubuntu by using second one? If I try to boot int
[18:20] <erkinacar5> o first Ubuntu (or its recovery), it gets stuck at "Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes"
[18:20] <pavlos> [twisti], click on dash, search for system monitor
[18:22] <lorddoskias> hello, i'm running ubuntu 16.04 and I installed zypper but when I run it I get: zypper: relocation error: zypper: symbol _ZN4zypp5CpeId11NoThrowType13lastMalformedE, version ZYPP_plain not defined in file libzypp.so.1503 with link time reference seems like a packaging problem
[18:24] <randall_> join #atlphp
[18:24] <darkseid4nk> lorddoskias: try a different package repo for that file, download it manually and instlal it, or try a different version that isnt broken
[18:24] <clintar> anyone familiar with building your own php debs?
[18:25] <clintar> i'm pretty sick of attempting and failing over and over
[18:25] <[twisti]> ah, sorry, i should have said, its a headless server
[18:25] <[twisti]> (got disconnected in between)
[18:27] <pavlos> [twisti], use top or htop to view process/memory info
[18:28] <Crator> bravo!
[18:28] <[twisti]> pavlos: ill keep it open but i suspect it will stop updating when the server gets a freeze spike
[18:30] <element> yoyo
[18:30] <deadone> whats up
[18:30] <element> yo nautilus
[18:31] <deadone> WHATS UP NIGGAS
[18:31] <element> sudo apt-get install
[18:31] <deadone> sudo apt-get install pussy
[18:31] <element> sudo yaourt
[18:31] <Crator> sudo dinner in my table now!
[18:31] <element> word
[18:31] <deadone> i had pizza
[18:32] <deadone> i haz da pizza\
[18:32] <element> didn't realize this was the support channel.. whoops
[18:34] <nacc> erkinacar5: 15.10 is eol, you know, right?
[18:35] <nacc> clintar: .deb for what?
[18:35] <nacc> lorddoskias: why would you install zypper on ubuntu?
[18:35] <erkinacar5> nacc: yea.. but my supervisor won't listen...
[18:35] <nacc> erkinacar5: it's ... rather important
[18:35] <nacc> erkinacar5: no security updates, no support
[18:35] <lorddoskias> nacc: i would like to create minimal opensuse userspace in a directory e.g. bootstrap opensuse userspace in a chroot, but my base system is ubuntu
[18:36] <nacc> lorddoskias: why not use a VM?
[18:37] <lorddoskias> i'm going to use this userspace with custom kernels in qemu so that's the idea
[18:38] <erkinacar5> nacc: well, now that it crashed, he agrees that we can install long term support one but still setting up everything from scratch will take some time.. if I can recover it I can backup important stuff and we can upgrade it
[18:44] <nacc> lorddoskias: right, but why not just start with a VM and install a minimal opensuse to it?
[18:44] <gde33> I have the launcher always visible, is there a way to disable that hover animation where the icons rotate ?
[18:47] <Anthaas_> I just installed a package successfully with apt-get install, I tried again and it told me the current version was already installed, so is there a reason why when trying to run the program it says package not foudn
[18:48] <nacc> Anthaas_: package names != program names?
[18:48] <pavlos> Anthaas_, what's the package name?
[18:48] <Anthaas_> elasticsearch
[18:49] <nacc> Anthaas_: the elasticsearch pacakge does not contain any binaries
[18:50] <Anthaas_> elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch ?
[18:50] <nacc> Anthaas_: sorry, i meant binaries in the path normally
[18:50] <nacc> Anthaas_: i would read the README to see what it says to do with teh pkg
[18:51] <Anthaas_> I am following their official installation guide :/
[18:52] <quangl> hi
[18:52] <quangl> how do i install windows after i installed ubuntu?
[18:52] <halvors> Anyone online who can help me escalatte this bug?
[18:52] <halvors> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1634855
[18:52] <halvors> It makes the whole network stack crash.
[18:53] <Pici> halvors: it looks like it has the highest priority right now.
[18:53] <halvors> Yeah, but whos the maintainer of the systemd package?
[18:54] <quangl> what do i have to do to reinstall windows on an ubuntu machine?
[18:54] <Lavinho> lubuntu 16.10 not supporting uefi ?
[18:54] <nacc> halvors: ubuntu-devel (like most other packages in ubuntu)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> !windows | quangl
[18:55] <halvors> Pici: nacc: Thank you very much :)
[18:55] <EriC^^> Lavinho: it should
[18:57] <Lavinho> I tried to install the error and had to install in legacy mode
[18:58] <nacc> Anthaas: i meant the debian README
[18:58] <nacc> Anthaas: i think you just run /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch
[18:58] <nacc> Anthaas: i don't tknow why it installs to there, it seems rather non-standard
[19:03] <saikol> hi
[19:03] <Amis> Can someone explain to me (or point to the right documentation) what is a "memory watermark" and what does it mean to be broken?
[19:06] <k1l> Amis: in what context?
[19:08] <Amis> k1l, I'm reading about OOM and there are cases explaining the cause to be memory watermark being broken, talks about "high water mark" in general (memory utilization)
[19:09] <Amis> I just can't understand the meaning in these cases
[19:09] <Amis> As... why is it called "water mark"
[19:11] <k1l> watermark is just another name for a measurement. its not like the watermark on photos or banknotes
[19:13] <daniel_1> Can't seem to play movie DVDs in DVD drive. vlc & mplayer installed. They will play a data prepared DVD.
[19:14] <k1l> daniel_1: you need dvdcss to be bale to play copyright protected dvds
[19:14] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:16] <BluesKaj> daniel_1, install ubuntu-restricted-extras then libdvdcss from vlc's site
[19:26] <Fritigern> HEy everyone! I want to create some circular text, kinda like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/QjCTo.png (this is not my own pic!), I have tried using LibreOffice Draw for this, but it's not working well. Draw is slow, behaves in ways that I don't expect (deselects the area with the text for no reason) so I was wondering if anyone knows any software that can get the job done.
[19:28] <JackofallTrades> libmtp question: when connecting my OnePlus One Phone and I am starting to copy files, lengthy files don´t copy at all. The copy progress dialog window just stays at the current percentage, it does not freeze. ... after trail and error I found out that if I shorten the name of the file it copies fine. This does not happen on other operating systems. What can be done about this current limitation?
[19:29] <sirv> use shorter file names ?
[19:30] <daniel_1> k1l: Thanks that worked
[19:30] <JackofallTrades> sirv if you re-read what I typed I already wrote that
[19:31] <daniel_1> BluesKaj: that that worked for me.
[19:31] <sirv> jack > which direction are u copying --- from device or to device ?
[19:32] <OerHeks> perhaps it is a android/one+ filename length issue?
[19:32] <guest234862> sirv from desktop hard-drve to phone
[19:33] <guest234862> Oerheks no I found out through trail and error that it is not by using the device on different operating systems, - If you re-read what I initially wrote you would have known this
[19:34] <guest234862> Oerheks no, through trail and error and testing on other operating systems I found out this was not the case
[19:34] <sirv> guest and u copy the files on all operating system to the same location on the phone ? internal phone memory always or you try to copy to sd card ?
[19:34] <guest234862> Sirv yes same location on the mtp device
[19:35] <sirv> guest and u copy from command line or thru some other program ?
[19:35] <OerHeks> i think the progress bar is not equal to time.
[19:36] <sirv> :)
[19:36] <guest234862> sirv: tested using, nautilus, xfce thunar and mate caja file manager
[19:36] <nacc> Amis: you should read Documentation/vm/balance
[19:36] <nacc> Amis: in the kernel source
[19:36] <guest234862> sirv I think this is a libmtp issue or somehow the file manager does not indicate that certain limit has been reached,
[19:36] <sirv> can u try copy in command line if u get some error
[19:37] <sirv> with cp
[19:37] <nauticalnexus> I have a question, if I get the kernel from ubuntu's git repo, and add the 4.9.6 patch file, does that bring it up to 4.9.6?
[19:37] <nacc> nauticalnexus: what '4.9.6' patch file?
[19:38] <nauticalnexus> nacc, "patch-4.9.6.xz"
[19:38] <nauticalnexus> from kernel.org
[19:38] <Amis> nacc, thanks
[19:38] <OerHeks> 4.9.6/4.9.7 are here, build and well http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:38] <nacc> nauticalnexus: A) 4.9.7 is out, and you should the kernel mainline PPA
[19:38] <nacc> nauticalnexus: if you actually need it, which you probably don't :)
[19:38] <nauticalnexus> I'm doing a custom kernel.
[19:39] <guest234862> sirv there is no real debug output because nothing really crashes, the copy progress bar just stays at whatever % percentage the file is being copied at. So I can deduce from this that when using the command line there won´t be any debug outputs. The only thing I can try is perhaps using strace to figure out what is happening, but this seems to be a libmtp thing because it happens on 3 other file managers. Also I am currently n
[19:39] <nacc> nauticalnexus: but to answer your question, no, that's not how the patch files work. patch-4.9.7.xz is  patch against 4.9.0
[19:40] <nauticalnexus> so I'd have to do the 4.5 patch, then the 4.6... and so on?
[19:40] <nacc> nauticalnexus: and the ubuntu kernel is not the mainline kernel
[19:40] <rajivmars> when i am trying to update then it failed because of this "http://paste.ubuntu.com/23906785/" anybody please help.
[19:40] <nacc> nauticalnexus: no, that probably won't work either
[19:40] <nauticalnexus> blurrrrgh, dunno what to do then
[19:40] <nacc> rajivmars: use a different mirror
[19:41] <nauticalnexus> I need to be able to edit the config and add my own patches to it though
[19:41] <nacc> nauticalnexus: if you're trying to use mainline, why not just use mainline?
[19:41] <k1l> rajivmars: go to system settings -> software and updates and switch the mirror
[19:41] <nauticalnexus> consult previous message
[19:41] <Fritigern> So.... I take it nobody knows how to make circular text then?
[19:41] <Southern_Gentlem> rajivmars, next time no quotes on the link please that permits the rest of us from clicking and it open in the browser
[19:41] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: worked fine here...
[19:41] <nacc> nauticalnexus: what are you actually trying to do? make a custom kernel or make a custom *ubuntu* kernel?
[19:42] <nauticalnexus> I'd prefer custom ubuntu kernel, but I require 4.9.6
[19:42] <nacc> nauticalnexus: then you're not using an ubuntu kernel to begin with?
[19:42] <nauticalnexus> I'm wanting to add the liquorix patch
[19:42] <nauticalnexus> I am
[19:42] <nacc> nauticalnexus: if you "require" 4.9.6 then you're not ubuntu based...
[19:42] <nauticalnexus> I require 4.9.6 for the liquorix patch..
[19:42] <nauticalnexus> it doesn't work on 4.4.35 or whatever's in the repos
[19:43] <guest234862> nauticalnexus the liqourix kernel package is also compiled for the latest ubuntu and the latest ubuntu lts
[19:43] <guest234862> nauticalnexus so you can use the repo from the authors website
[19:43] <nauticalnexus> I only saw 4.9 in the repos, not 4.4
[19:45] <guest234862> nauticalnexus that would be thought because you probabaly need to work the .rej from the patch. The current cpu sched from Con and  BFQ i/o  scheduler have to be backported to the ubuntu kernel
[19:45] <sirv> guest u think liquorix will help u withe the MTP copy ?
[19:45] <nacc> guest234862: hrm, liquorix only mentions debian, not ubuntu
[19:46] <guest234862> nacc the author mentions in the forums and it is build with the debian tools. Tuned for debian jessie, sid and latest ubuntu and ubuntu lts
[19:46] <nauticalnexus> but there's no 4.4
[19:46] <nauticalnexus> I'd love to stay as close to the Ubuntu kernel as possible.
[19:46] <guest234862> sirv I tried using vanilla kernel lts and on arch. On arch I tried linux-zen, ck and latest stable provided
[19:47] <Fritigern> Guys, I am very disappointed at you all. I asked a question, twice. And I did not even get so much as an acknowlegment.
[19:47] <guest234862> nauticalnexus Con develops against the latest stable so that will mostly likely not work for you. Unless you are willing to fix the .rej from the patch and do backporting
[19:47] <nacc> nauticalnexus: why do you think you need this special kernel (and not installing it means you stop being supported here)
[19:47] <randall_> Fritigern: Inkscape is your open-source best bet for circular text.
[19:48] <Fritigern> OKay, thank you randall_. I'll have a look at that
[19:48] <clintar> Fritigern, acknowledged
[19:48] <nacc> nauticalnexus: s/not/note/
[19:48] <candy`> morning
[19:48] <clintar> that looks like snot
[19:48] <sirv> fritigem and GIMP ? I would try gimp ..
[19:48] <rajivmars> Souther_Gentlmen, ok. sorry
[19:48] <nauticalnexus> nacc, makes everything snappy and fast, is optimised for my CPU architecture
[19:49] <nauticalnexus> BFQ is nice too.
[19:49] <clintar> bfq is nice, yep
[19:49] <nacc> nauticalnexus: i don't think there's a trivial way to backport the patches to the 4.4 base. I genuinely am not sure what guest234862 is referring to, as i'm not clearly seeing it (and not willing to trawl forums to find it) for any ubuntu support.
[19:49] <sirv> fritigem what about this : http://www.flamingtext.com/logo/Design-Beauty
[19:49] <rajivmars> kill, then what?/
[19:49] <nacc> nauticalnexus: in any case, fairly offtopic at this point, not really an ubuntu support question
[19:50] <clintar> anyone familiar with building your own php debs and can point me the way to find out how?
[19:51] <nacc> clintar: what php debs (I think I asked this earlier, sorry if I didn't)
[19:51] <Southern_Gentlem> Fritigern,  gimp can do circular test
[19:51] <guest234862> nauticalnexus: Steven Barrett and heftig, the current linux-zen developers are only working on the latest linux stable branch and so does Con. This means that getting it to work on the ubuntu lts kernel is going to be a pain in the ass and will require you to know how to program. More pain than reward. Also if you go for such kernels backporting to the latest ubuntu lts makes no sense due that the lts kernel mainly contains back
[19:51] <clintar> nacc, making my own module, really
[19:52] <Fritigern> Southern_Gentlem: Really? I don;t reemember seeing that in the text editing options. Can you screenshot it and show me where to look?
[19:52] <clintar> nacc, it's for database support from here http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com/dz/content.aspx?key=20&Release=19&Product=16&Platform=10
[19:53] <clintar> it's what my client uses, and i've compiled my own before, but it looks like the process changed to some git thing
[19:53] <Southern_Gentlem> Fritigern, http://visihow.com/Write_Text_in_an_Arc_in_the_GIMP_App
[19:53] <guest234862> nacc: nowhere on the liqourix page it says it is only for debian
[19:53] <nacc> guest234862: it's specific to debian releases. (sid/unstable). No ubuntu release repository.
[19:54] <Fritigern> Southern_Gentlem: Thank you, watching the vid now!
[19:54] <nacc> guest234862: i don't care abot their claims of 'binary compatibility', their kernel base is totally different (afaict) from the ubuntu one.
[19:55] <nacc> clintar: and why do you want a deb if you normally build form source? are you planning on submitting this to debian/ubuntu?
[19:56] <clintar> nacc, i'm open to other options, but afaik, i have to match up with what's running on the system
[19:56] <guest234862> nacc: i am just stating that you are making a thinking error. It is not for Sid, it is *from* Sid (hence the Sid in the sources.list). Their web page does not say that it is only for sid. In other words, there are changes backported to the stable kernel that make the kernel there different from the same version in Sid, but this does not apply ...
[19:57] <nacc> clintar: why can't you just download the tar and install it?
[19:58] <clintar> tar of php?
[19:58] <guest234862> nacc: plus the author states on the liqourix page that is also is compiled for ubuntu
[19:58] <guest234862> .. like literally on the home page
[19:58] <nacc> clintar: the link you provided is has a 'download' link to a tarball for that driver?
[19:59] <clintar> nacc, or if you mean the tar from that page, you need to compile the extension
[19:59] <nacc> clintar: right, why can't you do that?
[19:59] <Thedarkb> Hi, I just installed lubuntu on an old thinkpad and apt has no repositories
[20:00] <clintar> nacc it uses the php sources to do that, so I had it in my mind that I should use however ubuntu's php packages are configured, but if there is a way to not do that, i'm fine with it
[20:00] <k1l> Thedarkb: does "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" give you any output in terminal?
[20:00] <nacc> guest234862: hrm, it *might* work, but ubuntu and debian generally may not be able to use the same kernel (compiler differences, minimally, esp. with the claim of 'latest Ubuntu')
[20:00] <nacc> guest234862: in any case, i don't really care about liquorix.
[20:01] <nacc> guest234862: you are right, they assert they support ubuntu and debian
[20:01] <Thedarkb> Yeah, it gives me the standard spiel
[20:01] <nacc> clintar: i assume you need php-dev to be installed?
[20:01] <nacc> clintar: that lets you build against the php source, iirc
[20:02] <k1l> Thedarkb: ?
[20:02] <Thedarkb> sources.list is normal
[20:03] <Thedarkb> but apt just greets me with...
[20:03] <k1l> Thedarkb: then please put the error you get on paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[20:03] <Thedarkb> ben@benthinkpad:~$ sudo apt-get install ninvaders Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package ninvaders
[20:04] <k1l> !info ninvaders
[20:04] <k1l> Thedarkb: enable universe repos
[20:05] <Thedarkb> already enabled
[20:05] <nacc> Thedarkb: what version of ubuntu? pastebin `apt update` output please
[20:06] <Thedarkb> manually installing dependencies is torture :/
[20:06] <k1l> Thedarkb: that doesnt make sense.
[20:06] <k1l> Thedarkb: can you show the output if "lsb_release -d"?
[20:07] <Thedarkb> ben@benthinkpad:~$ lsb_release -d Description:	Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[20:07] <Thedarkb> it's lubuntu
[20:07] <clintar> nacc, i don't think this lends itself to doing it that way, but i'll read up on how to use php-dev and come back crying when i can't figure it out ;) thanks
[20:08] <nacc> clintar: well if all you need is to build a new php driver, php-dev should be all you need, normally
[20:08] <k1l> Thedarkb: did you run "sudo apt update"?
[20:08] <Thedarkb> updating........
[20:09] <clintar> nacc, what i'm seeing, you usually go into your extension directory and run ./configure, but this thing wants full sources and builds itself into php i think
[20:09] <clintar> i'll try, though
[20:09] <Thedarkb> I've been installing stuff by downloading .deb files from the debian website
[20:09] <Thedarkb> and downloading dependencies individually
[20:09] <k1l> Thedarkb: what? dont do that
[20:09] <ioria> Thedarkb, not a good idea
[20:10] <k1l> Thedarkb: use the ubuntu repos with apt. dont load debian packages since that brings you into the dependency hell
[20:10] <nacc> clintar: right, you probably have to pass some flags (I'd guess) into configure, potentially
[20:10] <Thedarkb> I know, it's agonisingly slow
[20:10] <k1l> Thedarkb: then change your mirrors.
[20:10] <ioria> Thedarkb, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:10] <Thedarkb> I mean downloading everything individualy
[20:11] <k1l> Thedarkb: you are not making any sense
[20:11] <Thedarkb> sorry
[20:11] <Thedarkb> I'm a linux retard
[20:11] <ioria> Thedarkb, you don't need to do that
[20:11] <nacc> Thedarkb: did you try to run `apt update` *before* installing anything?
[20:11] <ioria> Thedarkb,  all the point of apt
[20:11] <Thedarkb> ......no......
[20:11] <nacc> Thedarkb: you have to, that's probably your issue.
[20:12] <nacc> Thedarkb: and now you've probably mucked your system up a bit by installing (wrong distro) .debs by hand
[20:12] <Thedarkb> On my last few installs, it just worked.
[20:12] <nacc> Thedarkb: i would probably suggest reinstalling or at least uninstalling the stuff you installed by hand and installing from apt
[20:12] <k1l> Thedarkb: what doesnt work? so far we only proved that everything works
[20:12] <Thedarkb> apt was already working right from install
[20:12] <Thedarkb> without an update
[20:12] <nacc> Thedarkb: you *just* said apt wasn't working ... that was your original bug.
[20:13] <Thedarkb> I know
[20:13] <ioria> Thedarkb, please, paste    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:13] <Thedarkb> I'm a retard.
[20:13] <k1l> Thedarkb: apt update gets the updated list of packages from the servers. you need to run that when adding universe repo
[20:13] <nacc> you have to run `apt update` regularly
[20:13] <guest234862> nacc well in worst case scenario a re-compile is needed. But generally the way the kernel is compiled and configured by the developer it  moderately easy to provide cross-over and backported compatability. Also debian and ubuntu use the same patches when it comes down to devscripts, gcc, libncurses5-dev and libssl-dev, even if versions differ, higher versions of gcc provide compatabilty and the compiler flags used by the kernel 
[20:13] <ioria> Thedarkb,  if you are on trusty, better    sudo apt-get update
[20:13] <Thedarkb> just updated now
[20:13] <Thedarkb> It works
[20:13] <Thedarkb> Sorry
[20:14] <nacc> guest234862: i'm done discussing that topic
[20:14] <Thedarkb> thanks for your help
[20:14] <Thedarkb> sorry
[20:16] <guest234862> nacc fine ... responding to your claim that might produce FUD with people reading along
[20:20] <Thedarkb> hmm..... dependency unsatisfiable
[20:20] <clintar> it needs a snickers
[20:21] <Thedarkb> I probably fucked my install up
[20:21] <ioria> Thedarkb,  do you remember the .debs you manually installed ?
[20:21] <kernello> hello everyone, I'd like to back up all packages in their states and reinstall them in a new install of ubuntu. I found out about apt-clone here; https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages/486634#486634
[20:21] <clintar> just apt-get remove those debs
[20:21] <Thedarkb> yes, I fucked it didn't I
[20:21] <kernello> but what am I gonna insert here: sudo apt-clone clone path-to/apt-clone-state-ubuntu-$(lsb_release -sr)-$(date +%F).tar.gz ?
[20:21] <clintar> it's fixable
[20:21] <clintar> you can still win!
[20:21] <Thedarkb> I installed like 30 of them
[20:21] <k1l> Thedarkb: i am sure you did make a mess with isntalling debian packages manually
[20:22]  * Thedarkb checks his downloads
[20:22] <genii> Thedarkb: Please watch the profanity, we try to keep the language in here family-friendly
[20:22] <ioria> Thedarkb,  20 minutes to reinstall lubuntu :þ sy
[20:22] <Thedarkb> sorry
[20:22] <candy`> hello, does anyone already tried preseed configuration file to unattended ubuntu installation ?
[20:22] <kernello> what is 'path-to/apt-clone-state-ubuntu'?
[20:23] <ioria> Thedarkb,  you install .deb when and only you don't have other choice
[20:24] <Thedarkb> I knew I was going to some kind of hell for it :)
[20:24] <clintar> no hell, just work
[20:24] <clintar> oops, not family friendly
[20:25] <Thedarkb> brb, gonna restart
[20:26] <Thedarkb> something has a lock on something hope this fixes it
[20:26] <k1l> Thedarkb: you maybe its installing updates?
[20:26] <k1l> you can only open the package management once at a time
[20:28] <clintar> nacc, i love you
[20:28] <clintar> nacc, thanks for the php extension info
[20:31] <sporthilites> hello
[20:32] <sporthilites> Cassiopaya
[20:40] <iarinov> is there jack by default in 16.04.1?
[20:40] <iarinov> (sound server with ow latency)
[20:42] <Bashing-om> !info jack xenial | iarinov
[20:43] <mcphail> !info jackd
[20:43] <mcphail> iarinov: it is in the repos, but not installed by default
[20:45] <iarinov> if i will install it manualy, the system and applications sounds will be fine or there is a chance to destroy the system? | mcphail
[20:45] <bytesaber> Is anyone able to help me understand this better?      http://askubuntu.com/questions/185317/are-security-ubuntu-com-updates-eventually-merged-into-normal-updates
[20:45] <bytesaber> I'm running a local mirror for private use,  but it costs me an extra 200+ GB just to be literal and maintain security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com for trusty.
[20:46] <kernello> hello everyone, I'd like to back up all packages in their states and reinstall them in a new install of ubuntu. I found out about apt-clone here; https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages/486634#486634
[20:46] <kernello> but what am I gonna insert here: sudo apt-clone clone path-to/apt-clone-state-ubuntu-$(lsb_release -sr)-$(date +%F).tar.gz ?
[20:46] <kernello> what is 'path-to/apt-clone-state-ubuntu'?
[20:47] <mcphail> iarinov: it _shouldn't_ cause any problems until you start the server. Even then pulseaudio should politely get out of the way when you run the jack daemon. But, as in all things audio and linux related, YMMV
[20:47] <marcofe> hi everybody, I've a question for you...Is exist a mechanism to extract an ip without using DNS?
[20:47] <clintar> kernello, looks like it's wherever you want to keep the file is what it's saying
[20:48] <ducasse> kernello: 'path to' = path to where you want the file located, the rest is the filename. you don't need the two subshells if you don't want them, you can fill in whatever name you want.
[20:48] <iarinov> mcphail: i want to use it for DAW
[20:49] <mcphail> iarinov: yep. Most of the time it works well. I usually use something like qjackctl to configure, start and stop jack
[20:49] <ppf> marcofe: can you rephrase that question?
[20:49] <ppf> details?
[20:49] <mcphail> iarinov: some of the native DAWs (such as ardour) can run without jack, as well
[20:50] <iarinov> mcphail: what about Bitwig?
[20:50] <kernello> ducasse, so you mean it can be just 'sudo apt-clone clone path-to-ubuntu-clone' ? but I dont want to clone whole OS, just the packages that I manually installed. is the command for this purpose?
[20:50] <mcphail> iarinov: haven't used bitwig. In all cases, though, having jack is better than not having jack (if you can stand the pain of setting it up)
[20:51] <kernello> only to save the effort of reinstalling and reconfiguring them
[20:52] <ducasse> kernello: yes, that will work, it will replicate the state of the package system. you will still need to backup config under your homedir and stuff you've changed in /etc, though.
[20:52] <kernello> ah, these two packages, sure
[20:53] <iarinov> mcphail: understood thx
[20:56] <kernello> ducasse, I haven't changed anything in /etc, though. thank you very much for your help! I will use the command as above simplified. it will also backup the manual configurations, right?
[20:57] <ducasse> kernello: no, i just said you need to do that.
[20:57] <ducasse> kernello: it just backs up the state of the package system.
[20:58] <kernello> ducasse, oh, ok, right, sorry..it's also fine, as it saves a lot of installing
[20:58] <kernello> ducasse, thank you again, ciao!
[20:58] <ducasse> kernello: just backup your entire homedir in addition :)
[20:58] <ducasse> kernello: np.
[20:58] <kernello> ducasse, sure :)
[21:06] <nacc> clintar: i take it that it worked, then?
[21:06] <nacc> guest234862: yes, you're right, thank you for clarifying
[21:20] <kernello> ducasse, hello again, I just did the cloning..I had 'version mismatch' message for some packages, saying I could use '--with-dpkg-repack' to include those packages in the clone file. and when I used 'sudo apt-clone clone ~/path --with-dpkg-repack', I still get the same mismatch message for them..how should I deal with them in cloning process?
[21:21] <ducasse> kernello: i've seen that myself, use --with-dpkg-repack and just ignore the messages. never had any problems.
[21:22] <kernello> ducasse, great, thank you
[21:23] <ducasse> kernello: but you need ~/path/filename, did you use that?
[21:25] <kernello> ducasse, no, I ran 'sudo apt-clone clone ~/folder-of-the-clone --with-dpkg-repack'..should I have created a file in the folder first?
[21:25] <kernello> and point the command to that file
[21:25] <kernello> ?
[21:25] <ducasse> kernello: no, but specify the filename you want
[21:26] <kernello> ok, I'll do it again with filename
[21:28] <kernello> ducasse, I created a file in the folder, and inserted its name in the path, but still the command created its own file
[21:29] <kernello> yes, as you said
[21:29] <ducasse> kernello: never mind, just use the file it created. you can always rename it if you want/need to.
[21:29] <marcofe> ppf:  I've here in my home a homemade NAS with ubuntu installed. When i'm not at home, to transfer some files(by using Owncloud) in real time to my NAS, i use a VPN, but when I'm at home i would to use the local ip and not the VPN address. Do you have any suggestion?
[21:30] <kernello> ducasse, yes, everything looks as expected :)
[21:30] <clintar> nacc, it worked in a system i had previously installed it on by getting all the sources, but i have yet to try on a fresh install of 16.04. i'll see what happens there. i think i still need the sources, so i'm worried what will happen with the git thing
[21:30] <nacc> clintar: ok, if you get stuck, pastebin output and i can try and help
[21:30] <marcofe> ppf: Owncloud use a URL to syncronize files and in this URL at the moment i've inserted the VPN address.
[21:31] <marcofe> ppf: Now is it more clear? thank you for your supporting
[21:32] <Ben64> marcofe: use sshfs or nfs or samba or something else
[21:33] <ppf> a vpn connects you to your local network. the addresses should be the same?
[21:34] <marcofe> ppf no, because when i'm not at home, I use a VPN to transfer these files
[21:35] <marcofe> furthermore i'm not transfer these filese manually, but by using owncloud
[21:35] <ppf> marcofe: yes, i read that. a vpn is a tunnel into your local network. it makes it look like you were at home
[21:35] <marcofe> ppf: the address is configured differently
[21:35] <marcofe> maybe i need to reconfigure my vpn
[21:36] <krkan5253> hello
[21:36] <krkan5253> i need some answers
[21:36] <marcofe> my home network has  192.168.1.0/24 instead my VPN has 192.168.150.0/24
[21:36] <krkan5253> lol
[21:37] <krkan5253> nice vpn m8
[21:37] <marcofe> krkan5253: some answer for what?
[21:37] <krkan5253> i installed bak box
[21:37] <krkan5253> back
[21:37] <k1l> !backbox | krkan5253
[21:37] <krkan5253> and i know some basic things
[21:37] <krkan5253> but
[21:38] <ppf> marcofe: what's the point of that vpn then, when you've still got distinct nets?
[21:39] <krkan5253> i moved to linux beacouse its more easy to do stuff
[21:39] <krkan5253> im sing black box
[21:39] <krkan5253> using
[21:39] <Ben64> krkan5253: yes and that version is not supported here, this channel only supports Ubuntu
[21:39] <k1l> krkan5253: see the bots message. we cant help you in here
[21:40] <krkan5253> this is ubuntu :P
[21:40] <OerHeks> krkan5253, backbox is not an official ubuntu flavor.
[21:40] <krkan5253> ok
[21:40] <krkan5253> i didnt want to use kali
[21:40] <krkan5253> i wanted something different
[21:40] <krkan5253> fresh
[21:40] <Pici> Kali is also not an official Ubuntu flavor
[21:40] <darwinvasquez> I have a doubt with xubuntu
[21:41] <krkan5253> caould you tell me some basic commands for terminal
[21:41] <krkan5253> not too basic
[21:41] <marcofe> ppf: I'm thinking about you said andh you have right eheh
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> !terminal | krkan5253 start here
[21:42] <darwinvasquez> my windows now don't show the close, minimize buttons when the window is complete
[21:42] <k1l> krkan5253: ask in #linux if you want to ask for generic linux usage not specific to ubuntu.
[21:42] <krkan5253> ok
[21:42] <krkan5253> so ubuntu is diiferent
[21:43] <krkan5253> i didnt know that
[21:43] <k1l> krkan5253: come back when you actually use ubuntu. we need this channel for ubuntu users who got issues and need help. thank you.
[21:44] <krkan5253> when i installed this this os i clicked the on the ubuntu box
[21:44] <krkan5253> ok
[21:44] <krkan5253> do i join by typing /join #linux
[21:44] <k1l> yes
[21:44] <krkan5253> ok
[21:45] <krkan5253> thank you for all the info!
[21:45] <krkan5253> have a great day/night
[21:45] <krkan5253> :P
[21:47] <ryan_> Hello
[22:02] <T0K3n> Hello everyone. Could somebody who knows a bit about C programming help me to get a "NaN" output for my function when a negative number is the input for my heron funkction? http://pastebin.com/DAjDtUMZ
[22:03] <crash__> crash> hello all, I am running mint 18 on a 128 GB USB drive that I have formatted, this is not a LiveUSB. I have it set up as the following : http://i.imgur.com/wibi49R.png
[22:03] <crash__>  I'm trying to make the 99 GB part at the beginning identify to windows when I boot to windows, is there a way to do that
[22:03] <k1l> !mint | crash__
[22:04] <nacc> T0K3n: probably should ask in a programming channel
[22:04] <k1l> please ask the mint specialists at theit channel
[22:04] <nacc> !alis | T0K3n
[22:04] <crash__> I asked there. It just a general partitioning problem... if you all could help I'd really appreciate it
[22:04] <crash__> but I understand
[22:07] <T0K3n> alright thx
[22:13] <cylix> 2885 Sanford Ave. SW Suite 20138, 00000,
[22:13] <cylix> 49418 - Grandville
[22:14] <Guy1524> i have the default libreoffice 5.1 installed on Ubuntu 16.04, and would like to install 5.3.  I have found a .deb on the libreoffice website, but would installing it conflict with the libreoffice I already have installed
[22:14] <myke> hello is there a free font that includes deer (unicode U+1F98C) ?  this codepoint was only added last year in unicode 9.0
[22:24] <xangua> Guy1524: if you install the Deb you first need to uninstall LibreOffice, yes; I've read there is also a snap package and there is also the LibreOffice PPA repository
[22:24] <Guy1524> xangua: I have tried it, and it didn't brake anything
[22:24] <Guy1524> it installs seperately from my libreoffice package
[22:24] <xangua> Good
[22:24] <Guy1524> and the package name is libreoffice5.3
[22:24] <Guy1524> so I now have both
[22:32] <krkan_5253> guys
[22:32] <krkan_5253> i need help
[22:32] <krkan_5253> anyone?
[22:32] <wedgie> ask a question.
[22:32] <krkan_5253> ok
[22:32] <krkan_5253> i know this isnt an linux channel
[22:33] <k1l> krkan_5253: didnt we have this debate already?
[22:33] <krkan_5253> but when i try to join a linux channel i get an error register nickname
[22:33] <wedgie> krkan_5253: ask in #freenode
[22:33] <krkan_5253> ok
[22:34] <krkan_5253> when i try to type in #freenode it says "no channel joine try /channel name"
[22:34] <krkan_5253> join*
[22:34] <krkan_5253> so
[22:34] <krkan_5253> crap
[22:34] <COSL04X> you have to register you nickname and a email with freenod to "verify"your account on freenode
[22:34] <nacc> !registery | krkan_5253
[22:34] <nacc> !register | krkan_5253
[22:34] <COSL04X> once you do that you can join restricted channels
[22:34] <krkan_5253> thanks guys
[22:34] <k1l> to join a channel do "/join #channelname" some channels request you register with freenode first. so ask in #freenode for help
[22:37] <anonV> Yo, im not being to install - pip install NumPy it downloads but then I got the error
[22:37] <anonV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23907722/
[22:38] <nrushton> does setting compactionthroughput affect existing compactions?
[22:39] <Pici> anonV: you have a few choices: 1) install the python-numpy package via apt 2) install it in a virtualenv 3) pass the --user switch to pip to install it to your users home.
[22:39] <k1l> !info python-numpy
[22:40] <Pici> anonV: Do *not* use sudo to install anything with pip. It will cause many headaches later.
[22:40] <anonV> ok
[22:41] <Krkan> i sucessfully registered thanks guys and peace
[22:41] <anonV> so best way is to use it in a virtualenv ?
[22:42] <Pici> anonV: Well thats the best practice for installing most python packages.
[22:43] <Pici> anonV: fyi, theres also #python here on freenode, they're very helpful there if you need more python related help.
[22:46] <anonV> Ok ty Pici
[22:47] <ivanskie> \join #virtualbox
[22:48] <ChaiTRex> How can I figure out the ./configure options used for an Apt package?
[22:50] <nacc> ChaiTRex: you'd need to look at the src package and see what is passed in debian/rules
[22:50] <nacc> ChaiTRex: i'm assuming you mean a .deb when you say "Apt package'
[22:51] <ChaiTRex> nacc: That worked. Thanks.
[22:53] <ho3in-u16m> hi
[22:55] <foli> This it to notify the we are beginning maitenance on Canonical data centre firewalls.
[22:57] <Pici> foli: thanks for the heads up
[22:58] <ivanskie> hi
[22:59] <ivanskie> was here yesterday asking about how to figure out whats blocking outside ssh connections to a ubuntu box in virtualbox spunup by vagrant.  i have a kubuntu box i've installed on the same virtualbox.. just tried it and I can ssh into it. just find.
[22:59] <ivanskie> fine
[23:27] <SupaYoshi> I've a very odd issue with firefox , I've already tried updating firefox to a later version but
[23:27] <SupaYoshi> instead of dispalying the html markup correctly, tried same webpage on different systems, all work fine except ubuntu
[23:27] <SupaYoshi> I still get odd html markup, where it goes like <font color='#3232>
[23:29] <adalbert> 02/02/2017 00:05:41 Got connection from client 185.30.166.38
[23:44] <TronaldDump> My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault.
[23:44] <TronaldDump> I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay, but I am a traditionalist.
[23:44] <TronaldDump> An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud
[23:45] <TronaldDump> Sorry, there is no STAR on the stage tonight!
[23:45] <OerHeks> read th topic, TronaldDump
[23:45] <TronaldDump> Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don’t know what to do. Love!
[23:45] <L0rdLaravel> it's a bot
[23:46] <TronaldDump> An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud
[23:46] <L0rdLaravel> I knew it!
[23:46] <dork> ...
[23:46] <compdoc> lol
[23:46] <TronaldDump> Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don’t know what to do. Love!
[23:46] <compdoc> this bot is pretty lifelike
[23:46] <L0rdLaravel> just as much as a bot as the real Trump
[23:46] <compdoc> heh
[23:46] <TronaldDump> The only card [Hillary Clinton] has is the woman’s card. She’s got nothing else to offer and frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she’d get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she’s got going is the woman’s card, and the beautiful thing is, women don’t like her.
[23:46] <OerHeks> this is not twitter, is it?
[23:47] <TronaldDump> I’m just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump, right?
[23:47] <compdoc> 20 more years, Donald'
[23:47] <TronaldDump> I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke.
[23:47] <TronaldDump> The point is, you can never be too greedy.
[23:47] <compdoc> ops!
[23:48] <compdoc> dont know how this works
[23:48] <compdoc> !ops
[23:48] <TronaldDump> My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.
[23:48]  * dax looks up
[23:48] <TronaldDump> My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault.
[23:48] <TronaldDump> It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!
[23:50] <karl_> Hello
[23:58] <Finetundra> Hey folks, what command would I use to write a set of files to a floppy disk?
[23:59] <k1l> Finetundra: did cp not work?