[05:25] <dharma> what is the substitute for proteus in ubunt
[05:32] <dharma> what is the substitute for proteus in ubuntu
[08:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:13] <qwertz> Hello, I need to install a program in /opt/-folder. And give access to all human users. What is the correct way to do it?
[11:14] <qwertz> By accessing I mean the users should be able to run the program;-)
[11:15] <qwertz> But not remove it.
[11:16] <hateball> By default, /opt is ro for all
[11:19] <qwertz> I think they should also be able to write to certain subfolders (logs,...).
[11:19] <qwertz> Is there a commoun user group, I coud use?
[11:25] <hateball> you can make any group you like
[11:25] <qwertz> Yes, there does not seem to be one for that
[11:25] <qwertz> thanks ;-)
[12:15] <noname> malam
[13:51] <poopeateer> hi guys I recently installed kubuntu and i was wondering if anyone could help me configure it at boot alongside preinstalled win10
[14:00] <poopeateer> ok then
[14:03] <soee_> :)
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:31] <EvilRoey> hello
[14:32] <Karkoon> Hi. I've installed a package called libpng16-16 using apt but it didn't do what I wanted so I wanted to purge it but now apt wants to purge 2GB of other files and I don't know what to do. :( http://i.imgur.com/DyPfGMg.png <-- image with some packages it wants to remove
[14:32] <EvilRoey> I'm on the latest NVidia drivers.  Translucent Windows, Wobby Windows, Present Windows suddenly stopped working.  I rebooted and they still do not work...
[14:32] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: heya ^_^
[14:32] <EvilRoey> Karkoon: ah
[14:32] <EvilRoey> Karkoon: stick around people are here who can help
[14:33] <hateball> Karkoon: are you sure it's from that package? libpng16-16 doesnt have a ton of :i386 depends
[14:33] <hateball> Karkoon: sure you havent installed anything else before that is floating around?
[14:34] <Karkoon> hateball: purge will purge previous packages that have been removed?
[14:34] <hateball> Karkoon: no. purge will remove package + configs for the package you specified
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hi  EvilRoey , try changing your rendering backend in system settings>display&monitor>compositor
[14:35] <Karkoon> so I don't think it should want to remove grub or libre office
[14:35] <hateball> Karkoon: the other packages it mentions will be removed if you run apt autoremove
[14:35] <hateball> Karkoon: was this originally ubuntu-desktop and you switched to kubuntu-desktop ?
[14:35] <Karkoon> hateball: no
[14:36] <Karkoon> hateball: http://pastebin.com/YN55F0EG <-- the whole message
[14:36] <hateball> Karkoon: yeah, you dont want to do that :D
[14:36] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: thanks
[14:37] <hateball> Karkoon: looks to me like you may have removed the kubuntu-desktop meta-package
[14:37] <hateball> Karkoon: which then orphans all those packages
[14:37] <Karkoon> are there any logs to see if I did it?
[14:37] <hateball> Karkoon: /var/log/apt/history*
[14:38] <hateball> Karkoon: also "apt policy kubuntu-desktop"
[14:38] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: changed from OpenGL 2.0 -> OpenGL 3.1.  Worked like a charm.  BluesKaj, you are a font of knowledge.  Thanks :")
[14:38] <EvilRoey> * :)
[14:38] <hateball> Karkoon: that should say installed, preferably
[14:38] <Karkoon> installed: (none)
[14:38] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: btw in my mind I'm still pronouncing your nick blooz-kadzh.
[14:38] <hateball> Karkoon: sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[14:40] <hateball> still looks weird with all those 32-bit packages
[14:40] <Karkoon> now apt policy is : installed 1.344
[14:40] <Karkoon> and I've tried to purge the libpng16-16 but it still wants to remove everything
[14:40] <hateball> Karkoon: if you try removing the libpng16-16 again, what does apt say then?
[14:40] <hateball> Karkoon: pastebin it again please
[14:41] <Karkoon> hateball: http://pastebin.com/2CqpCfyV
[14:42] <Karkoon> I've got a popup that Ubuntu 16.10 experienced an internal error.
[14:42] <hateball> Karkoon: think you'll need to consult the apt logs then
[14:42] <hateball> because somewhere along the line a metapackage got removed
[14:43] <hateball> and it mentions a whole bunch of gnome/unity packages as well so I have no idea what you could have done
[14:47] <Karkoon> hateball: I think I have logs from today... but everything else is corrupted.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, were you running gnome-desktop then installed kubuntu/plasma-desktop?
[14:48] <hateball> at any rate it wants to remove all of plasma *too*
[14:48] <hateball> despite reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package
[14:48] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: no. This kubuntu installation is like 4 days old btw.
[14:48] <hateball> something is broken
[14:49] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, Kaj rhymes with sky , my name is scandinavian and there "j" is pronounced as y or an i.
[14:49] <Karkoon> http://pastebin.com/4W8RUj6K <-- the only working part of apt history
[14:51] <Karkoon> oh. Kate can read everything.
[14:51] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: I understand :)
[14:51] <EvilRoey> I mean I got it from the beginning but heh
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, which method did you use to install kubuntu
[14:51] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: oh your name is Scandinavian, got it!
[14:51] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: are you European?
[14:52] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: I've installed it using a Live USB created using Linux Live USB Creator ( http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ ).
[14:52] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, no, I'm Canadian
[14:53] <Karkoon> It didn't have a preset for kubuntu 16.10, so I used a preset for 15.10.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> preset?
[14:54] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: aye
[14:55] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, huuh
[14:55] <EvilRoey> just aye as a means of acknowledgement of your previous sentence
[14:55] <EvilRoey> unless huuh is something Canadian English speakers say
[14:56] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: when you use this program in one of the steps to make a live usb you need to define which distribution you want to use. It has some of them predefined. I don't know what they configure in their presets.
[14:56] <Karkoon> http://askubuntu.com/questions/446651/apt-get-remove-purge-wine-removed-everything Can I make something like that? Allow for purge and then reinstall before reboot?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, think you've done some damage alright, suggest you not purge anything, but run sudo dpkg --configure -a, then sudo apt -f install
[15:01] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: I don't think that has changed anything.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, if you know what an app is don't purge it , especially libs
[15:02] <BluesKaj> don't know rather
[15:03] <BluesKaj> bbiab , I have a couple of problems that need attention too ,,,bbiab
[15:07] <Karkoon> other packages don't want to delete everything
[15:19] <Karkoon> I think I have reinstalled it somehow and I thought that I don't have it but I think that libpng is one of the core libraries for kubuntu. So... I think I can't delete this without deleting everything else because they all depend on it in some way?
[15:21] <hateball> Karkoon: It's not needed at all
[15:21] <hateball> (I dont have it)
[15:23] <johnflux_> Hey all
[15:23] <johnflux_> apturl  is broken because it depends on pyqt4  which has been removed from 16.10
[15:23] <johnflux_> so apt:/   urls don't work in firefox etc now
[15:23] <johnflux_> so clicking to install flash, for example, fails
[15:27] <Dragnslcr> johnflux_- is there a reason that the regular package doesn't work for you?
[15:28] <johnflux_> Dragnslcr: for flash?
[15:28] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[15:29] <johnflux_> Dragnslcr: I'm talking specifically about the bug that apturl is broken out of the box :-(
[15:30] <Karkoon> hateball: then I don't know.
[15:35] <Karkoon> I have it listed in history as installed on 2016-10-12 so it looks to me to be a default package.
[15:35] <Karkoon> and today I have reinstalled it.
[15:36] <Karkoon> hateball: are you on 16.10?
[15:41] <nc__> hey I'm trying to install kubuntu on a very old laptop dell inspiron 220 but during installation I get an error that says "Error informing the kernal about modifications to partition /dev/sda1 --Device or resource busy. This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda1 until you reboot --so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting" the options "ignore" and "cancel" aren't responding. Please help.
[15:45] <hateball> nc__: are you sure the drive is OK?
[15:45] <hateball> Karkoon: Not on this machine no, 16.04
[15:46] <Karkoon> Then I don't know again. :S I've seen that previous versions had libpng12
[15:47] <Karkoon> I'm not sure if 16.04 has libpng12 or 16. (or maybe neither)
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, libpng16-16 is installed on 16.10
[15:56] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: do you think I can have libpng12 and libpng16 installed at the same time?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, I doubt it
[16:07] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: I installed it from a deb file. I haven't restarted yet but things seem to work.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, perhaps it is the default for 16.04 ...I'm running an edgy version of 16.10 so perhaps some of the libs are more advanced since I've upgraded plasma and frameworks from ppas
[16:25] <nc__> hateball: sorry for the late response. it should be I mean I installed gnewsense on it before.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> Karkoon, which deb file /
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:41] <Karkoon> BluesKaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libpng12-0/download libpng12 from xenial
[17:41] <heythereduder> ello
[18:20] <markus_e92> Hi, how can I create a polkit .pkla to allow mounting only of specific usb storge? there is a drive.vendor udisk variable, but I don't know how this work?
[18:20] <markus_e92> with polkit 0.105 there is no /etc/polkit-1/rules.d to add javascript rules
[19:14] <mukteshwar_> irchighway
[19:52] <cablop> hello
[19:53] <an-usah> hello
[19:53] <an-usah> i have a weird issue in my KDE
[19:53] <an-usah> i have to copy things twice in oder for them to be properly copied
[19:55] <an-usah> i have these two scenarios:
[19:55] <an-usah> 1. i select a text, press ctrl+c and the text is not copied, i have to press ctrl+c twice then the item is effectively copied
[19:56] <an-usah> 2. i select a text, press ctrl+c the text is copied but in plain text, i press ctrl+c twice then the item is copied preserving format and other related information, like url in the case of a link
[19:58] <BluesKaj> an-usah, what about using  the context menu then choose copy and paste ...does that work?
[20:01] <an-usah> BluesKaj, i'm going to test
[20:03] <an-usah> BluesKaj, hum, same error
[20:04] <an-usah> i have to copy twice with the mouse
[20:07] <BluesKaj> some kind of delay perhaps?
[20:09] <an-usah> hmmm... nope, i waited some seconds before pasting when doing just a copy
[20:09] <an-usah> and this problem is weird
[20:09] <an-usah> well... i suspect a keyloger also
[20:12] <an-usah> or maybe it is a problem of KDE shell
[20:15] <an-usah> no, BluesKaj it is not a delay
[20:17] <an-usah> same issue if using Ctrl+Ins Shift+Ins to copy paste
[20:40] <mrVandermare> Does anyone know how to get konsole to run command as login shell? The option is missing from settings (for good reasons i'm sure) . I tried adding "bash -l" to the end of my .bashrc, but the konsole just hangs when i open it. I'm new to screwing with the bashrc file. Any suggestions?.
[20:47] <Dragnslcr> mrVandermare- what are you trying to do that you would need to open konsole with bash -l ?
[20:48] <mrVandermare> i need to use rvm. Ruby Version Manager. in ubuntu, there's a setting "run command as login shell". So i'm trying to get konsole to run as login shell, so that rvm will work.
[20:51] <Dragnslcr> The only difference that I can is that a login shell runs /etc/profile as well as the bashrc files
[20:52] <Dragnslcr> So I have no idea why rvm would need that
[20:53] <mrVandermare> ok. Will continue googling/trying things - thanks anyway, Dragnslcr.
[22:42] <ahoneybun> anyone good with driver issues?
[22:44] <Walex> ahoneybun: polls are pointless. Depends on the driver. Also ask in ##Linux...
[22:45] <ahoneybun> polls?
[22:47] <Walex> ahoneybun: "anyone" questions instead of direct questions...
[22:48] <ahoneybun> not sure the problem with asking though
[22:49] <Walex> ahoneybun: there are three: most people are specialized, and not everybody knowns all drivers, help in these channels is by convention not personal but collective, and "anyone" polls can be easily used for trolling to embarass people...
[22:55] <filbor> have a question. It may look stupid but need some help. My kubuntu 14.10 program manager went kaput on my computer and have not been able to upgrade, trying to upgrade to 16.04LTS how can I do so and keep all my data from my previous version ?
[23:26] <valorie> filbor: that is not advised, since it is a major jump in both plasma and kdelibs > frameworks 5
[23:26] <valorie> much better to back up your data and do a fresh install in this case
[23:27] <valorie> 14.10 is long out of support as well
[23:27] <valorie> !eol
[23:27] <valorie> but please do a fresh install rather than trying to upgrade unless you know what you are doing
[23:28] <valorie> I did it, but it was a hard slog