[03:38] <jots> i want adobe flash player. but its as though i cant download it.
[03:39] <jots> im new to ubuntu, first night with it.
[03:40] <Astro7467> Are you trying to install from the Software Boutique?
[03:41] <Astro7467> grrrr...gone
[04:44] <motion228> hello
[07:35] <Ntemis> i cant kill caja
[07:35] <Ntemis> killall caja does nothing
[07:35] <alkisg> killall caja
[07:35] <alkisg> killall -9 caja
[07:35] <Ntemis> after i updated ubuntu mate to 1.16 caja freezes all the time
[07:36] <Ntemis> killall -9 caja nothing
[07:36] <alkisg> ps aux|grep caja
[07:36] <alkisg> ps aux | grep caja | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:36] <Ntemis> demetris  1703  1.2  1.0 1543240 82844 ?       Dl   09:05   0:22 caja
[07:36] <Ntemis> demetris  5057  0.0  0.0  14228   972 pts/2    S+   09:36   0:00 grep --color=auto caja
[07:37] <Ntemis> http://termbin.com/3nas
[07:37] <alkisg> sudo kill -9 1703
[07:37] <alkisg> ...and that doesn't kill it?
[07:37] <Ntemis> sec
[07:37] <Ntemis> nope
[07:37] <Ntemis> still there
[07:37] <alkisg> And still with pid 1703?
[07:38] <Ntemis> http://termbin.com/ajsb
[07:38] <alkisg> Heh. That's strange.
[07:38] <Ntemis> if you dont believe me
[07:38] <Ntemis> http://dpaste.com/30711XA
[07:39] <alkisg> Nah don't worry I believe you :)
[07:39] <alkisg> ls -l /proc/3147/fd | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:39] <alkisg> Personally I prefer using mate from the ubuntu repositories, not from PPAs
[07:39] <Ntemis> ls: cannot access '/proc/3147/fd': No such file or directory
[07:40] <alkisg> Sorry, 1703 there
[07:40] <alkisg> ls -l /proc/1703/fd | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:40] <alkisg> So, I still have mate-desktop 1.12 on my xenial box
[07:40] <Ntemis> http://termbin.com/fphk
[07:42] <alkisg> Do you have any files owned by root in your home directory? find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)
[07:43] <Ntemis> http://dpaste.com/12303TK
[07:43] <alkisg> Btw, also try running xkill, and then clicking on the desktop, to kill caja. Warning, don't click on other windows that you might want to keep open...
[07:43] <alkisg> /home/demetris/.cache/dconf/user
[07:43] <alkisg> That should be owned by you
[07:43] <alkisg> It's the gsettings database
[07:43] <alkisg> Run: sudo chown demetris:demetris /home/demetris/.cache/dconf/user, then logout/login again
[07:44] <Ntemis> worked
[07:56] <Ntemis> thank you
[07:56] <alkisg> Na 'sai kala
[11:06] <raspi_> antix
[13:37] <cetcapstone> has anyone here been having trouble with bluetooth?
[13:38] <cetcapstone> im having trouble connecting my blue cat beacon
[13:39] <Astro7467> no -  I have used on a few systems for audio and data without issues since 16.04 release
[13:41] <cetcapstone> im usuing ubuntu on a raspberry pi 3
[13:41] <cetcapstone> and the bluetooth is able to locate the beacon
[13:41] <cetcapstone> but it wont pair succesfully
[13:41] <cetcapstone> i also tried pairing it to my beats headphones and it wouldnt either
[13:42] <Astro7467> don't think I done any Pi Bluetooth
[13:43] <Astro7467> hv you searched the community forums?
[13:43] <cetcapstone> yeah i have i cant seem to find anything just a lot of people with the same error but no solution
[13:46] <Astro7467> quick Google shows docs on raspbian Bluetooth troubleshooting
[13:56] <cetcapstone> @Astro7467
[13:56] <cetcapstone> you never had any issues with bluetooth
[13:56] <cetcapstone> while using ubuntu?
[13:56] <cetcapstone> are you using ubuntu on your personal computer?
[15:32] <cetcapstone> Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationCanceled
[15:32] <cetcapstone> anyone know how to fix this
[15:52] <luna_> Installing Ubuntu MATE on a Raspi 3 i won yesterday from the SUSE Guys and giving it to mom :)
[16:00] <cetcapstone> anyone know ho to make a device discoverable
[16:16] <cetcapstone> my bluetooth dongle is able to connect to my phone or a beacon
[16:16] <cetcapstone> but only for 5 seconds then it disconnects
[16:16] <cetcapstone> does anyone know what could be the problem
[16:17] <cetcapstone> please and thank you
[16:52] <dna113p> Anyone know how I can change the default terminal to gnome-terminal?
[16:52] <dna113p> It's not listed in preffered applications
[17:01] <Ntemis> alkisg: re file eisai edo?
[17:57] <Bhasha> hi
[18:23] <Mark86> ciao ragazzi
[18:30] <Mark86> Ho una domanda per voi: ho 2 pc con installato ubuntu mate...vorrei metterli in rete. Dove posso reperire del materiale da leggere su questa tematica?
[18:35] <alkisg> !en
[18:35] <alkisg> !it
[18:37] <Mark86> I've a question for you: I have 2 pcs with Ubuntu mate installed in. I'd like to link them. Where can I find something about this issue?
[18:38] <DarkPsydeLord> link em?
[18:39] <Mark86> Yes, I'd like to link them in a network
[18:39] <DarkPsydeLord> o ok create a network between em
[18:40] <Mark86> Great, you got it :)
[18:42] <DarkPsydeLord> well i usually share files between computers using samba or ssh
[18:42] <DarkPsydeLord> lemme check if thats on the wiki
[18:43] <Mark86> samba uh? may I download it from the software boutique?
[18:44] <DarkPsydeLord> i dont recall install it
[18:44] <DarkPsydeLord> must be already installed
[18:45] <DarkPsydeLord> dpkg --get-selections | grep samba   must be useful
[18:45] <Mark86> oooh that's a good point! So...what should I do now?
[18:47] <Mark86> I copied the command inside terminal...and it says everything is installed
[18:47] <Mark86> python-samba					install
[18:47] <Mark86> samba-common					install
[18:47] <Mark86> samba-common-bin				install
[18:47] <Mark86> samba-libs:amd64				install
[18:47] <Mark86> vlc-plugin-samba				install
[18:49] <DarkPsydeLord> if you tried to share something already you just have to navigate to the other computer adress using smb://someipaddress
[18:49] <DarkPsydeLord> and thats pretty much it
[18:51] <Mark86> I must admit, I haven't tried to share yet.
[18:52] <Mark86> let us assume I have to drag and drop items from a pc to the other...which steps should I follow?
[18:55] <DarkPsydeLord> fastest way must be installing caja-share
[18:57] <DarkPsydeLord> sorry im at work at the moment sometimes i kind of take a few mins to answer
[18:59] <Mark86> oh don't worry ;p I found caja-share
[19:00] <DarkPsydeLord> Mark86: ok so fastest and easiest will be installing from the software boutique caja-share which will install the samba options in your menu
[19:01] <DarkPsydeLord> after installing you will have the sharing options available at right click on your folders
[19:01] <Mark86> thank you...just installed :)
[19:02] <DarkPsydeLord> then you just need to decide what to share between yor computers and access the files using the ip address or the browse network option at the quick panel
[19:05] <DarkPsydeLord> ofc you have to do the same on both computers
[19:05] <Mark86> if it's like you're saying...it'll be very simple
[19:05] <DarkPsydeLord> yes it is
[19:05] <Mark86> do I have to manage the connections on both pcs, setting up a static ip?
[19:06] <DarkPsydeLord> ofc you have to be sure you are on the same range network at home but thats pretty much the only thing
[19:08] <Mark86> the 2 are linked at the same router...is it enough in your opinion?
[19:10] <alkisg> The ip won't be static, but the hostnames, e.g. pc1.local and pc2.local, will be static
[19:10] <alkisg> So you can connect with the hostnames, and even bookmark them
[19:10] <Mark86> oooooh that's good!
[19:12] <Mark86> thank you so much guys... now I've gotta go. Many many thanks...keep on helping us like this :)
[19:17] <DarkPsydeLord> just returned... and hes gone lawl
[21:03] <Bray90820> Does mate work on a raspberry pi 1
[21:45] <sixwheeledbeast> I don't think RPi 1 had enough resources to run ubuntu-mate
[21:45] <sixwheeledbeast> Well recommended resources.
[21:46] <DarkPsydeLord> i think rpi can handle mate but im not sure
[23:27] <ubuntu-mate> hi, can someone explain me what are the big difference between ubuntu and mate apart the desktop_ There are other difference_
[23:36] <HoppingMadMan> Still about ubuntu-mate?
[23:36] <ubuntu-mate> hi, can someone explain me what are the big difference between ubuntu and mate apart the desktop There are other difference
[23:37] <ubuntu-mate> all the app that run on ubuntu with unity run an mate?
[23:38] <HoppingMadMan> Yes
[23:38] <ubuntu-mate> thanks, can i make you another little question_
[23:38] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah sure
[23:39] <ubuntu-mate> I have an ssd need to do something or mate is already optimized
[23:40] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah, think so, I am not running a SSD but I do believe that you do
[23:40] <HoppingMadMan> As to what... You got me lost, I know the new ker
[23:40] <HoppingMadMan> kernel supports SSDs a little better in how the file system deals with them
[23:41] <HoppingMadMan> But I could be talking out my ass at the moment, let me check
[23:42] <ubuntu-mate> ok, and the last question I have seen that ubuntu will release 16.04.2 with the new kernel versions and mesa updated, it's the same for mate?
[23:42] <HoppingMadMan> Yes
[23:42] <HoppingMadMan> Don't use have a Swap on your drive
[23:43] <ubuntu-mate> ok,thanks for the tips and for the info. Can I ask you why you have choosed mate?
[23:44] <HoppingMadMan> I loved Gnome 2 back in the day and Mate is a fork of the Gnome 2 desktop in away
[23:44] <ubuntu-mate> I would try it because it's very minimalistic and remember me gnome 2
[23:44] <HoppingMadMan> I find that its simple and I got uses to it
[23:44] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah me to
[23:44] <HoppingMadMan> I Hate hate Gnome 3
[23:45] <HoppingMadMan> And KDE bugged me
[23:45] <ubuntu-mate> have you used for work, It's stable
[23:45] <ubuntu-mate> ?
[23:45] <ubuntu-mate> I don't like KDE
[23:45] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah I use it and the only problem I have is more my tweaks that I make that become unstable
[23:45] <ubuntu-mate> and gnome 3 is too much resource ungry
[23:46] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah I know, and it always broke on me
[23:46] <ubuntu-mate> unity isn't bad but I don't know there is something that don't convince me
[23:47] <HoppingMadMan> It feels half assed
[23:48] <ubuntu-mate> the live of 16.04.1 is base on mate 1.12 it's possible to install 1.16?
[23:48] <HoppingMadMan> And look mate isn't the most beautiful desktop but it works for what I uses it for and really give me a email client, terminal, web browsers and IDE I am good
[23:49] <HoppingMadMan> I am on the LTS and at 1.16.1
[23:49] <ubuntu-mate> yes probably isn't the more beautiful but seems that is very minimalistic and functional
[23:50] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah and it is not like OpenBox where it is too minimalistic
[23:51] <ubuntu-mate> I have seen that in the 1.16 there are more support for gtk3, this means that there are less problem with the app that are written for gnome or is something else?
[23:52] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah more or less
[23:52] <HoppingMadMan> You will still run into problems but it seems more stable
[23:53] <ubuntu-mate> what kind of problems?
[23:53] <HoppingMadMan> I find problems like the odd crash
[23:54] <ubuntu-mate> but probably only in some apps
[23:54] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah like its only been rarely but that could have been my software that I uses
[23:54] <ubuntu-mate> in what apps you have problems?
[23:55] <HoppingMadMan> Serial Console
[23:55] <HoppingMadMan> But that could be also how my system handles the USB to Serial adapter
[23:56] <ubuntu-mate> @HoppinMadMan Thanks for your time and for all your answers.Very helpfull. Thanks again.