=== JanC is now known as Guest98802 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === tinwood is now known as tinwood_afk === tinwood_afk is now known as tinwood [16:00] o/ [16:00] \o [16:01] o\ [16:01] o/ [16:02] * slangasek waves [16:02] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started Thu Feb 2 16:02:23 2017 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:02] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:02] o/ [16:02] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [16:03] $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson) [16:03] sil2100 infinity robru tdaitx caribou xnox bdmurray chiluk doko cyphermox mwhudson slangasek barry [16:03] two weeks in a row! [16:03] his RNG is really bad. [16:04] Wow [16:04] I won? [16:04] Or lost. [16:04] - Landing team work, silo coordination [16:04] - SRU reviews [16:04] - DMB meeting, discussing candidates [16:04] - Working on updating the kubuntu packageset for zesty (duped) [16:04] - ubuntu-image: [16:04] * Playing with manual GUID changing, not satisfied with that [16:04] * Working-around multiple cases of libparted being a smartass [16:04] * Filling in bugs for pyparted issues [16:04] * Testing the pyparted partitioning branch, working on tests [16:04] - Discussions regarding Bileto snap support and OTA-15 work [16:04] (done) [16:04] o/ [16:04] * Helping hunt down and land fixes for kernel issues with HWE kernel [16:04] * More back and forth with Timo on the X HWE stack [16:04] * More work on CD/livefs changes for 16.04.2 [16:04] * Interviews with __redacted__ and __redacted__ [16:04] * Misc #ubuntu-devel mentorship and such [16:04] * Misc AA and SRU work [16:04] (done) [16:04] britney [16:05] * piuparts disabling actually rolled out [16:05] * several iterations towards britney emailing people about stuck packages [16:05] (done) [16:05] = OpenJDK 7 Update [16:05] - Continued working on the security update backports [16:05] - Only 1 patch of 19 is missing, partially backported [16:05] - Besides the missing patch, the package builds fine [16:05] = Other [16:05] - Going to Brussels tomorrow, most probably offline in the afternoon [16:05] (done) [16:05] safe travels tdaitx! [16:06] BugFix : [16:06] LP: #1638695 [16:06] LP: #1654600 [16:06] Launchpad bug 1638695 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Python 2.7.12 performance regression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1638695 [16:06] Launchpad bug 1654600 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "unattended-upgrade-shutdown hangs when /var is a separate filesystem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654600 [16:06] gaughen, thanks! [16:06] a few meetings [16:06] (done) [16:07] xnox: ? [16:07] 16.04.2 s390x testing (uploaded SRU to fix degraded boot by default) [16:07] z kvm patch list review for 17.04 [16:07] docker.io adt tests (in progress, to catch non working docker on armhf/s390x) [16:07] run tests on lipfm4 (to resolve the final query for MIR) [16:07] new upstream release of s390-tools (including FTBFS fixes) [16:07] systemd SRU for deputy trusty (in progress) [16:07] appx repackaging cloud images automation (in progress) [16:07] have a bit of flu from last weeks skiing =/ getting better now [16:07] brussels for fosdem over the weekend. [16:07] .. [16:07] short week due to being out Monday [16:07] wrote unit tests for apport gdb sandbox branch [16:07] updated apport gdb sandbox branch after reviewer feedback [16:07] merged apport gdb sandbox branch to trunk [16:07] updated apport on Launchpad retracer (porter-i386) [16:08] research into RT re /tmp/apport_sandbox folders left over on prod retracers [16:08] investigation into apport test-crashes build failure for zesty [16:08] ✔ done [16:08] sent email to team regarding gdb issues [16:08] clean up of duplicates of bug LP: #1385817 [16:08] Launchpad bug 1385817 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "initscripts package fails to upgrade if there are local init scripts on the system with no LSB headers" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1385817 [16:08] interview work (prep, actually interview, review) [16:08] Doesn't "done" usually come at the end? [16:08] yeah I was wondering [16:08] anyhow [16:08] * Core dev application moved to devel-permissions mailing list. cyphermox, infinity, bdmurray, sil2100 please see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2017-January/001019.html [16:08] * A little merging, and some bzr merge education from cyphermox. [16:08] * Worked at freeing up qemu proposed queue for to allow room for lp:#1655225 [16:08] * Working to put together an acceptable patch for LP:#1650067 [16:08] * Working through bisect of LP:#1647389 every iteration takes a long time because the updates seem to break my cloud, juju resets my nova.conf, and testing needs to run for a long time. [16:08] -done- [16:09] for what it will give you, that was all outdated ;) [16:09] chiluk: yeah, will send a vote later today or tomorrow ;) [16:09] i think we are all waiting for the fallout from rbasak's proposal. [16:10] no doko? [16:10] heh [16:10] doko said he'd be a little late [16:10] - nplan release 0.17; some autopkgtest issues left to fix (GAH!) [16:10] - os-prober debugging (halp!) [16:10] - debugging LVM+crypto installs failing to boot (fallout from no /boot for LVM) (bug LP: #1659448) [16:10] - ubiquity upload for the above. [16:10] Launchpad bug 1659448 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Zesty) "grub fails to install bootloader for zesty LVM with Encryption" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659448 [16:10] so maybe try again later [16:10] - fixing open-iscsi autopkgtests finally. [16:10] - wpa 2.6 merge [16:10] - rebuilding devscripts for zesty [16:10] - DMB: packageset update/review, automating the process a bit [16:10] - discussed IPv6 support w/ stgraber (whether we support ipv6.disable=1) [16:10] (done) [16:12] infinity: just curious, what are the livefs/CD changes for 16.04.2; anything really special, or just the usual? [16:12] cyphermox: Pretty much the usual. [16:12] ah [16:13] no mwhudson i guess. slangasek? [16:13] * doctors appointments and antibiotics [16:13] * SRUs: snapd in trusty \o/, newer snapcraft everywhere, miscellaneous reviews [16:13] * going deeper down the cpc cloud-image-mastering rabbit hole [16:13] * planning for partner meetings [16:13] * discussions on POWER roadmap for 16.04.3 [16:13] * interviews for team opening [16:13] (done) [16:14] u-i: LP: #1641727 (very close) [16:14] Launchpad bug 1641727 in Ubuntu Image "Support multiple volumes per gadget.yaml" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641727 [16:14] debuntu: LP: #1647204; debian bug #852289 & passlib 1.7.1-1 [16:14] Launchpad bug 1647204 in gpgme1.0 (Ubuntu) "1.8.0-2 FTBFS in zesty 17.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647204 [16:14] Debian bug 852289 in src:python-passlib "python-passlib: please make the build reproducible (timestamps)" [Wishlist,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/852289 [16:14] misc: interviews; review [16:14] https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/apport/sandbox-gdb/+merge/315619; [16:14] help caribou re: 2.7.6 v 2.7.12 perf regression on trusty [16:14] --done-- [16:14] bdmurray, it's your fault Steve's on antibiotics [16:14] Steve is slangasick? [16:14] bdmurray, you and your juanita chips [16:15] Its not my fault he's weak [16:17] it's possible bdmurray was in the factory filing down the points of the chips [16:18] any other questions? [16:20] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [16:20] ok anything else? :) [16:21] anything fun for POWER coming up? [16:21] there's a next generation of the architecture in the wings? [16:21] oh, just that. [16:21] Mmm, wings. [16:21] but won't have much impact on us [16:21] ok [16:22] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:22] Meeting ended Thu Feb 2 16:22:11 2017 UTC. [16:22] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-02-02-16.02.moin.txt [16:22] thanks! [16:22] thanks! [16:25] too late ... === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:33] Hello Pavlos [19:33] hi wmack_ [19:37] hello all [19:38] hello toddc [19:41] Hello. [19:41] Hi folks [19:42] I have seldom been this early for a meeting in my life. [19:42] makes two of us... [19:43] That would probably apply to markthomas as well [19:46] Yes. [19:49] I am also on bbb.azloco.net [19:49] The Intel network isn't letting me into bbb, so can't join you there today [19:49] wait [19:49] wmack_: np [19:59] o/ [19:59] o/ [19:59] o/ [19:59] o? [19:59] :D [20:00] +1 [20:00] +1 [20:01] +1 [20:01] +1 [20:01] +1 [20:01] +1 [20:01] the ones have it :) [20:03] wmack_ markthomas pavlos Are you ready guys? [20:03] Alright so, all the candidates are here I guess [20:03] yes [20:03] Yes. [20:03] yes [20:03] OK, then [20:03] #startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting [20:03] Meeting started Thu Feb 2 20:03:43 2017 UTC. The chair is nzoueidi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:03] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [20:03] Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! [20:04] The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. [20:04] y [20:04] If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [20:04] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [20:05] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. [20:06] * toddc is here to support all applicants from azloco [20:06] Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [20:07] * superfly is here to support all the applications from AZ LoCo [20:07] #topic pavlos === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: pavlos [20:07] * MajB is also here to support all applicants from AZLOCO [20:07] we're starting with pavlos because we have a quick administrative thing to note [20:07] can wmack go 1st? [20:08] pavlos: you haven't signed the Code of Conduct in Launchpad, which is a requirement for membership [20:08] pavlos: so if you can read it and do that now, we can come back to you at the end of the meeting, otherwise you'll have to come to our next meeting once you've signed it [20:08] will do it, thx [20:09] thanks for understanding :) [20:09] on to wmack_! [20:09] Thank you. [20:09] Alright, going to wmack_ [20:09] #topic wmack_ === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: wmack_ [20:09] I am Walter Mack, member of the the Arizona Loco since approx 5 years. [20:09] My contribution is in the following areas: [20:10] Participate in twice/month installfests, typically installing or repairing Linux on 2-3 systems. Also there for technical assistance as necessary [20:11] I have also helped with the Loco computing infrastructure, setting up the initial owncloud system, as well as the big blue button system [20:11] speaking generally, it is always nice to see how many events the azloco has :) [20:11] Furthermore helped in the migration of the azloco main site from drupal 2.6 to 2.7 [20:11] Any questions for DS-McGuire? Any supporters here? [20:12] wmack_: do you find folks who come to the installfests are generally new to Ubuntu, or existing users who need some help? [20:12] Also active in other linux organizations locally (namely the phoenix linux users group). [20:13] There is a tight interaction between PLUG and AZLOCO [20:13] wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wmack-y [20:13] pleia2 - it is a mix. [20:14] I would say that 40% do have a good understanding of linux [20:14] the rest are predominantly individuals who want to understand Linux and what it can do for them. [20:14] wmack_: why there is no contribution in your LP? Are you planning to make some? [20:14] cool, thanks [20:14] What is LP? [20:15] launchpad [20:15] Launchpad [20:15] This is not on my radar at present - I'm concentrating on the local efforts of the Loco. [20:15] makes sense [20:15] wmack_: what do you mean with Drupal 2.6 or 2.7. Drupal has version 6,7 or 8, I think. Or do you speak about a theme? [20:16] wmack_: I would encourage you to at least use it for reporting bugs, I'm sure you run into many while doing installs :) [20:16] I would need to go back to my notes. [20:16] I did think that the migration was from 2.6 to 2.7, maybe it was 6 to 7 [20:16] It was not just a theme, but the whole drupal installation. [20:17] ok [20:17] any fellow loco members here to support wmack_? :) [20:17] The migration was done as part of moving to a new team server, so it also involved moving the mysql db and adjusting it to work wit the new version [20:17] Alright, any other questions to wmack_ ? [20:17] wmack_: heh, that's always fun [20:17] nice. you have many pictures at your wikipage of the loco group: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam [20:17] wmack_: migrated from a physical to vertual server at the same time [20:18] I am another applicant, but I support wmack_. He's a big help to everyone in our loco. [20:18] thanks markthomas :) [20:18] I am also here to support wmack [20:18] great [20:18] 2.5- to version 4 [20:18] I'm also here to support wmack_ [20:19] Already then, we go for vote [20:19] #voters pleia2 elacheche_anis nzoueidi toddy wxl [20:19] Current voters: elacheche_anis nzoueidi pleia2 toddy wxl [20:19] +1 keep up the good work :) [20:19] nzoueidi: need the question first ;) [20:21] my bad x) [20:21] #vote wmack_ for membership! [20:21] Please vote on: wmack_ for membership! [20:21] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:21] +1 [20:21] +1 received from pleia2 [20:21] +1 – good work. thanks a lot [20:21] +1 – good work. thanks a lot received from toddy [20:21] +1 Good contribs wmack_ [20:21] +1 Good contribs wmack_ received from elacheche_anis [20:21] #votesrequired 4 [20:21] votes now need 4 to be passed [20:22] +1 from a fellow Walter; keep AZLOCO being great [20:22] +1 from a fellow Walter; keep AZLOCO being great received from wxl [20:22] +1 keep up the good work [20:22] +1 keep up the good work received from nzoueidi [20:22] #endvote [20:22] Voting ended on: wmack_ for membership! [20:22] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:22] Motion carried [20:22] thank you all [20:22] Congrats wmack_ :) [20:22] congrats and welcome to membership, wmack_ :) [20:22] Thank you very much! [20:22] welcome wmack_ :) [20:22] congrats wmack_ :) [20:22] congrats wmack_ [20:22] congrats wmack_ [20:22] Hooray, wmack_ ! [20:23] * wmack_ bows [20:23] Good job wmack_! [20:23] markthomas is next i believe [20:23] Helo. [20:24] Alright, so the next candidate is markthomas [20:24] #topic markthomas === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: markthomas [20:24] Hi guys, I'm a Ubuntu Member & Contributing Developper, and I'm here today to support markthomas' application. [20:24] I need to go back to work - thank you all for listening me and supporting me. [20:24] My name is Mark Thomas. I've been an Ubuntu user since Dapper, a member of the Loco for over 3 years. [20:24] Please introduce yourself markthomas [20:24] I'm currently an employee of Canonical as well. [20:25] I contribute regularly to the install events with wmack_, and I also contribute off and on to the Ubuntu Community Documentation. I wrote the Active Directory section of the Ubuntu Server Guide. [20:25] My wiki page is wiki.ubuntu.com/markthomas [20:25] Recently, I've started triaging bugs on LP as well. [20:25] nice, much needed [20:26] launchpad.net/~markthomas [20:26] Cool, any questions for markthomas? and any supporters here? [20:26] nzoueidi, I'm supporting markthomas [20:26] * toddc is here in support of markthomas [20:26] I'm supporting markthomas [20:26] markthomas: what's your title at canonical? [20:26] markthomas: looks lke you joined Canonical in 2013, I imagine they found you because you were a community member? [20:26] How much do you have written at the Ubuntu Server Guide, markthomas ? [20:26] I am supporting markthomas as well [20:26] Technical Account Manager. Formerly Technical Support Engineer. [20:27] Hi all, I work at Canonical with Mark, and I'm here to support him as well. [20:27] cool [20:27] pleia2, they found me because I was vocal of my support of Ubuntu on LinkedIn, I believe. [20:27] cydizen: i assume you have your membership already then? *ahem* XD [20:28] I do not >< [20:28] well you better get to fixing that! [20:28] :D [20:28] (to be clear, you don't need to be a member to endorse) [20:28] cydizen: we can cure that! [20:28] cydizen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember -- you can ask markthomas to come support you :) [20:28] pleia2: yeah, just ever evangelising, that's all :) [20:28] I certainly will. [20:28] Not his fault, he lets me know everytime he's headed to a plug meeting :) [20:28] :) [20:29] ditto [20:30] okay, we proceed for the voting [20:30] #vote for markthomas membership! [20:30] Please vote on: for markthomas membership! [20:30] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:30] +1 thanks for the work [20:30] +1 thanks for the work received from toddy [20:31] +1 [20:31] +1 received from pleia2 [20:31] +1 markthomas Good work :) [20:31] +1 markthomas Good work :) received from elacheche_anis [20:31] +1 [20:31] +1 received from wxl [20:31] +1 [20:31] +1 received from nzoueidi [20:31] #endvote [20:31] Voting ended on: for markthomas membership! [20:31] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:31] Motion carried [20:31] welcome markthomas :) [20:31] My thanks. [20:31] congrats markthomas [20:31] congrats markthomas :) and welcome [20:31] Congrats markthomas !!! [20:32] congrats markthomas [20:32] congrats markthomas ! [20:32] congrats markthomas. [20:32] thanks for your work markthomas :) [20:32] Well done, markthomas! [20:32] toddc: something is wrong with you. I think you have a wrong letter in your name. :D [20:32] Thank you all. [20:33] did pavlos sign CoC? [20:33] toddy, it's the beard. It anchors him to the front of the alphabet somehow. [20:33] pavlos: you still here? [20:33] * toddc verified correct nick toddy [20:33] :D [20:33] still here but unable to generate a key [20:34] pavlos: tell me what you're doing and where you're stuck and we'll see if we can't fix you [20:34] as in "this machine isn't suitable for the task" or "an error message I don't understand"? [20:34] gpg --key-gen entered my info then a pass phrase (20 chars) I get messagethat it needs more entropy so type more keys [20:35] wiggle the mouse too if you've got one [20:35] let me try that [20:35] pavlos: open up a new terminal window and `find /var` [20:35] that ought to get you plenty of entropy :) [20:35] I think we overloaded him with guides and links in our local irc [20:36] wxl: bwahaha, that's brilliant, must try that next time :-D [20:36] wxl: nice idea [20:38] I will connect from another machine [20:39] I'm here, will try again [20:44] btw the machine running the gpg --gen-key is the one that needs the keyboard input or mouse input or disk drive fiddling... [20:45] pavlos_: if you're still not having any luck, try this: sudo apt-get install pollinate ; sudo -u pollinate pollinate -r [20:46] let me try that [20:46] pollinate uses ubuntu's entropy servers to feed your system's RNG [20:47] not will try the gpg again [20:47] now [20:47] worst case we can figure it out at the tempe ubuntu hour tonight [20:48] not enough entropy needs 242 bytes [20:48] what's the output of cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail ? [20:49] one sec ... [20:49] toddc: you can use that as an opportunity to teach others how to sign the CoC as part of their membership application *AHEM* :) [20:50] Yes toddc [20:51] I think pavlos helped figure out how to do my gpg [20:51] :) [20:51] 876 [20:51] from /proc [20:55] pavlos: when you sign the CoC you can mail the Ubuntu Board Membership maillist and we vote there. [20:55] will do ... sorry for this [20:55] So we don't need to reschedule him [20:55] pavlos: no problem [20:56] No problem. [20:56] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:56] Meeting ended Thu Feb 2 20:56:03 2017 UTC. [20:56] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-02-02-20.03.moin.txt [20:56] thank you all again [20:56] Thank you all for attending and have a good day o/ [20:56] Yes thank you all for your time [21:17] pavlos, does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/100275/how-do-i-sign-the-ubuntu-code-of-conduct#100304 === ahoneybun is now known as ahoneybun_