[05:32] <nsnzero> morning guys 
[06:11] <chesedo> morning nsnzero and all others
[07:07] <thatgraemeguy> morning all
[07:11] <inetpro> good evening
[07:26] <chesedo> hi thatgraemeguy
[07:26] <chesedo> and evening inetpro, any new news from oom Kilos?
[07:35]  * nlsthzn is out of the loop, everything OK with uncle Kilos?
[08:05] <chesedo> nlsthzn: he waiting at steve biko to get something done... inetpro has the ful details
[08:06] <chesedo> he is *
[08:11] <nlsthzn> ok thx chesedo 
[11:32] <jerit_> guys for some reason I can't connect to my sftp server on my vm anymore
[11:32] <jerit_> it was working before I think
[11:32] <jerit_> I just added a new user for it but the server's not accepting the connection so I think I need to open port 21
[11:34] <jerit_> or not... ufw command not recognized
[11:50] <nsnzero> jerit can you log with the previous username / password ?
[12:14] <jerit_> nsnzero: I never saved the credentials so I don't know what the previous username/password is
[12:24] <sakhi> Hello ubuntu-za
[12:25] <sakhi> What do you guys use to monitor your external internet link? exclude Nagios,Zabbix and Cacti.
[12:29] <nsnzero> sakhi: try iftop 
[12:29] <MaNI> nethogs
[12:37] <chesedo> sakhi: what do you mean by monitor?
[12:49] <nsnzero> later guys - home time
[18:27] <nsnzero> good evening all
[18:47] <smile> nsnzero: good evening
[18:50] <kulelu88> hey superfly . you working full-time now?
[18:52] <nsnzero> hi there smile , kulelu88 and superfly 
[18:52] <smile> :DD
[18:53]  * smile feels good
[18:53] <smile> and tired :D
[18:55] <nsnzero> glad to hear about the good , cant help the tired though 
[18:56] <kulelu88> hey nsnzero 
[18:56] <kulelu88> still coding python? nsnzero 
[18:57] <nsnzero> yes , but taking a detour - learning the big daddy C++
[18:57] <kulelu88> nsnzero: want to join me and learn a better big daddy? :D
[18:58] <nsnzero> i read about D 
[18:58] <kulelu88> nsnzero: nim-lang.org
[18:58] <kulelu88> I wrote some code in it already
[19:00] <nsnzero> nim formally know as nimrod led me to this beautiful language- > gnome Genie 
[19:01] <kulelu88> nsnzero: I saw Genie, but it is *dead*
[19:03] <nsnzero> according to its developer its still alive - just that its a subset of vala - and there is little documentation on it 
[19:04] <nsnzero> for those who wish to check it out https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Genie
[19:06] <nsnzero> i really prefer the simple languages rather than the newer complex ones with many concepts 
[19:11] <MaNI> newer is a nice euphamism for it, I prefer to call them hipster languages :)
[19:12] <nsnzero> hi MaNI - so true
[19:13] <nsnzero> and many of the newer hipster languages are written in C all because C/D/E didn't have a feature 
[19:13] <superfly> kulelu88: nope, still unemployed
[19:15] <nsnzero> superfly got any programming experience ? 
[19:16] <superfly> nsnzero: well, I started with QBasic when I was about 10... and I'm 36 and my preffered job title is "Python Developer", so I could say I have a little programming experience :-)
[19:16] <superfly> *preferred
[19:17] <nsnzero> superfly: why dont you register on bug crowd - good money for bug hunting 
[19:18] <superfly> nsnzero: I'd prefer a salaried job here in the US, because Obamacare
[19:20] <nsnzero> superfly: what type of employment you prefer ?
[19:21] <superfly> I'm looking for a job as a senior developer, preferably backend, writing Python
[19:22] <nsnzero> superfly: have you tried searching on stack exchange they have a job seekers / employment section 
[19:22] <superfly> yup, and Indeed.com and a few others
[19:22] <superfly> I applied for a position at Canonical on Monday
[19:23] <MaNI> How did you get a US emigration visa without an upfront job lined up? I thought they were super strict on that
[19:23] <superfly> MaNI: I'm married to an American :-)
[19:23] <MaNI> oh right
[19:24] <superfly> took 3 months to get my permanent residence
[19:24] <nsnzero> superfly: its stackoverlow not stack exchange 
[19:24] <superfly> nsnzero: yep, I know, my profile is on there
[19:26] <superfly> nsnzero: http://stackoverflow.com/story/raoulsnyman
[19:27] <nsnzero> nice picture 
[19:29] <nsnzero> superfly: http://stackoverflow.com/jobs/133479/software-engineer-noom?a=ILpzqfRndcI&so=i&offset=22&total=25&q=python&l=america&d=2 if you near new york 
[19:30] <superfly> nsnzero: Unfortunately that's on the other side of the country
[19:32] <nsnzero> i will keep an eye out for you superfly 
[19:32] <superfly> thanks nsnzero
[19:32] <nsnzero> all the best with the canonical job application though 
[19:38] <kulelu88> superfly: do you understand the context of this: https://github.com/vysheng/tg/wiki/Scripting-notes
[19:40] <superfly> kulelu88: yes, I think so
[19:40] <kulelu88> superfly: I am attempting to build a superset on top of the CLI app
[19:41] <superfly> right
[19:42] <kulelu88> can you explain how I would add a function to messages I send and receive, just before sending/receiving them? 
[19:48] <nsnzero> kulelu88: tgl.on_msg_receive(msg) to process the received message
[19:48] <kulelu88> perhaps I could just parse the message after receiving it :think_face:
[19:53] <nsnzero> the above function can be used to catch the received message so you can parse it
[19:53] <kulelu88> I wonder. Let me give it a try
[19:54] <nsnzero> but for send i only see this method peer.send_msg (text, reply=msg_id, preview=bool) that means you will have to add a function to edited the message before calling it 
[19:56] <nsnzero> try it kulelu88 - i am out for the night - good luck 
[19:56] <kulelu88> nsnzero: I could wrap the send function over the over one
[19:59] <nsnzero> yes like def msg_sender(text, reply=msg_id, preview=bool):
[20:00] <smile> bye! :)
[20:01] <nsnzero> your code then call peer.send_msg (text, reply=msg_id, 
[20:01] <nsnzero>                       preview=bool)
[20:01] <nsnzero> to send it 
[20:01] <kulelu88> nsnzero: do you have telegram?
[20:02] <nsnzero> no i dont kulelu88 cos it doesnt have a cli client and i couldnt edited it to match my desktop colour scheme 
[20:02] <kulelu88> nsnzero: the link to the github is the CLI client 0.o
[20:06] <nsnzero> not the cli i wanted - its not interactive - you have to check messages manually
[20:06] <kulelu88> nsnzero: you can put it into a loop to check messages
[20:07] <nsnzero> or i can just use wire 
[20:07] <kulelu88> I was hoping to test my project-idea with someone
[20:09] <nsnzero> if it cli just use 2 different username/password on your pc that why you can spot problems immediately 
[20:10] <kulelu88> you need 2 telegram accounts :P
[20:14] <nsnzero> maybe tomorrow i can help you out with something 
[20:14] <nsnzero> falling asleep now on my keyoard now 
[20:15] <kulelu88> bye nsnzero