[00:01] <Finetundra> k1l: would that just be cp <filename> /media/<user>/disk ?
[00:01] <k1l> yes
[00:05] <Finetundra> Thanks k1l. I'm apparently just an idiot
[00:05] <Finetundra> Forgot sudo
[00:09] <foli> The Canonical data centre firewall maintenance is done now.
[00:11] <adalbert> what changed?
[00:12] <wedgie> now 50% more secure.
[00:13] <foli> just upgrading hardware
[00:13] <adalbert> whats is happening with the old hardware?
[00:51] <blocky> so i got this new keyboard, logitech k750, but ubuntu 14.04 is recognizing it as a mouse (according to xinput)
[01:07] <FManTropyx> get a mouse that it recognizes as a keyboard and you are all set
[01:29] <phos1> I just setup an ubuntu server to replace a Centos one, how do I setup the network connetion? Mask and gateway I nned to change
[01:30] <k1l> usually its set to use dhcp. if you want to change that edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[01:31] <phos1> where is gateway?
[01:31] <phos1> It’s a server so it’s static
[01:31] <k1l> phos1: you put into that file: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configuring_an_interface
[01:38] <phos1> k1l:That is working now, thanks!
[01:38] <k1l> np
[01:42] <n4h0> n4h0> /home/nah/.config/octave/qt-settings
 does not exist and can not be created.
 Make sure you have read and write permissions to
 /home/nah/.config/octave what is wrong with this error
 can any one help me
[01:42] <k1l> n4h0: look at the file permissions on that folder in your home. most times they get broken when you run programs with sudo, which is bad.
[01:43] <FManTropyx> well, what are the permissions?
[01:44] <k1l> n4h0: "ls -al /home/nah/.config/octave"
[02:11] <HARAJLI98> #android-dev
[02:42] <tubal> Hi. Running 16.10 on a Gateway laptop. Things are mostly AOK, but the screen is a little too dim. Linux/Unity/X responds to the kb screen brightness buttons by showing the slider under the panel, but the brightness stays unchanged. Likewise in the prefs utility. Does anyone know of a way to address this? I realize it might be a driver problem.
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> tubal: same behaviour on a 16.04.1?
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | tubal anything usefull in your logs?
[02:47] <tubal> I didn't use 16.04. Coming back to Linux after several years away. lotuspsychje
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> tubal: i would strongly advise also a fresh reainstall with 16.04.1 LTS just to compare if your issue persist there also
[02:50] <tubal> dmesg doesn't seem to have anything to say about it, lotuspsychje.
[02:50] <tubal> nor tail -f /var/log/syslog
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> tubal: can you trace acpi issues in the logs?
[02:51] <tubal> would that be in syslog?
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> tubal: yes
[02:52] <tubal> what's the paste site?
[02:52] <tubal> nm
[02:53] <tubal> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23908788/
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> lemme have a look mate
[02:54] <tubal> little to look at :)
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> tubal: so when you press the dim buttons nothing happens, neither in a syslog tail?
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> tubal: your system is also up to date to latest i hope?
[02:56] <tubal> yep
[02:56] <tubal> nuffink in syslog
[02:56] <tubal> some ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±± appear in the term as I press the screen buttons.
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> tubal: lemme do a lil research holdon
[02:58] <tubal> sure. thanks.
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> tubal: you could try the first trick here: http://www.debugpoint.com/2016/10/2-ways-fix-laptop-brightness-problem-ubuntu-linux/#
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> tubal: and another interesting thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[03:02] <tubal> Cool!   ...
[03:06] <tubal> I'll try the first first. See you after rb.... I hope!
[03:08] <Redfoxmoon> It sure would be nice if the "You can force the installer to continue installing Debian" message could get removed when the installer incorrectly detects a legacy-boot windows install
[03:09] <Redfoxmoon> in UEFI mode. ffs.
[03:09] <Redfoxmoon> especially when it's buttons don't even -work-
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Redfoxmoon: you joined the ubuntu channel mate
[03:09] <Redfoxmoon> Yes
[03:09] <Redfoxmoon> I KNOW. and this happens on UBUNTU
[03:09] <Redfoxmoon> it LITERALLY says "Debian"
[03:09] <tgm4883> Redfoxmoon: known bug
[03:10] <Redfoxmoon> ffs.
[03:10] <tgm4883> a pretty minor one too
[03:10] <Redfoxmoon> eh. minor or major. still a bloody annoyance when you've configured everything to how you want it to be
[03:10] <Redfoxmoon> then it shits itself with that
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> Redfoxmoon: please keep language polite in main
[03:11] <tgm4883> Redfoxmoon: true, you can get past it though  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1547286/comments/11
[03:12] <Redfoxmoon> tgm4883, I got around it by nuking the partition tables
[03:12] <tgm4883> Redfoxmoon: here's the main bug if you want to look through it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1418706
[03:12] <Redfoxmoon> dunno if it will boot now though.
[03:14] <Redfoxmoon> of course it doesn't boot
[03:14] <tubal> Darn, who was I speaking with just before?
[03:15] <Redfoxmoon> although this might be specific to this laptop though *sigh* no EFI boot record, because who needs that!
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> tubal: did it work?
[03:19] <tubal> ah lotuspsychje 1 I was poring over the userlist...
[03:20] <tubal> yes and no. The brightness is back, but the buttons are still ineffectual. Also, more strange plus/minus chars, see http://imgur.com/jKXYFlU
[03:20] <tubal> they appear when i try to brighten-up.
[03:20] <tubal> not dim-down.
[03:21] <Redfoxmoon> tgm4883, well, I only have one thing to say, such a bug existing for 2+ years is absolutely unacceptable
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> tubal: well thats a start for sure...
[03:22] <Redfoxmoon> Reminds me of when grub-efi was completely unusable, oh that was a good time
[03:22] <tubal> Yes, for sure. Can you repeat URL #2, lotuspsychje ?No buffer in this client.
[03:22] <tubal> And what is that little box for, anyway??
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> tubal: more things to try :p http://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> tubal: wich client?
[03:23] <tgm4883> Redfoxmoon: yea, I'll agree with that.
[03:23] <tubal> chatzilla. I was using Polari, but it seems to be broken.
[03:30] <tubal> lotuspsychje: I'll try the xorg.conf trick.
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> tubal: wich graphics card are you on/driver?
[03:31] <tubal> Intel® Sandybridge Mobile lotuspsychje
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> tubal: check with sudo lshw -C video if it shows driver= loaded
[03:33] <tubal> lotuspsychje: no driver line at all.
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> tubal: card shows unclaimed at top?
[03:35] <tubal> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23908924/
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> tubal: lookin good mate: driver=i915
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> tubal: continue on the brightness thread
[03:36] <tubal> oh, duh. Didn't see that.
[03:37] <tubal> Guess I gotta reboot again. brb
[03:43] <tubal> lotuspsychje: Success!!
[03:43] <tubal> lotuspsychje: Many thanks. I'll stick around in here and try to pay it forward. :)
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !yay | tubal
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> tubal: you can share how you fixxed it?
[03:46] <sean_> wazaaaaaaap
[03:47] <sean_> no one here?
[03:47] <Bashing-om> sean_: Here, most we see is down .
[03:48] <tubal> lotuspsychje: adding the last argument in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor" to /etc/default/grub restored the brightness. And creating the xorg.conf.d file as http://askubuntu.com/a/859480 restored the controls.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> tubal: great mate! if you run into the existing bug, feel free to help to community how you solved
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> tubal: or confirm the #step on askbuntu that solved the issue
[03:58] <tubal> Yeah. No rep. to confirm, but I voted it up.
[03:59] <tubal> So, I don't think I'm going to use Polari. What do people say? Pidgin?
[03:59] <myke> pidgin is good
[03:59] <myke> i've successfully deployed it at work
[04:00] <myke> there's always your fav irc client + bitlbee
[04:00] <tubal> bitlbee?
[04:00] <myke> bitlbee.org
[04:00] <myke> it's a kind of gateway server
[04:00] <myke> it presents an irc interface, but on the backend connects to various other types of chat systems
[04:01] <k1l> tubal: hexchat is widely used for irc.
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat | tubal
[04:01] <myke> oh nmind you're actually looking for a client
[04:02] <tubal> myke: I see. Client, yes.
[04:04] <myke> iirc pidgin was suboptimal for irc because it's an IM client not an irc client
[04:08] <tubal_hex> Is this thing on?
[04:08] <Bashing-om> tubal_hex: Uh Huh .
[04:10] <tubal_hex> So far so good, with the hexchat.
[04:13] <william_> ok i use hexchat and my nickname keeps changing to default. how do I stop this?
[04:14] <lianjp> chinese here？
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> !zh | lianjp
[04:26] <Transtibot> does there happen to be anyone in here who uses DAWs on Ubuntu???
[04:28] <sporthilites> sup with DAWs
[04:30] <myke> i would also like to know this answer
[04:30] <Transtibot> Having issues switching from windows to linux.. Used Reason religiously.. trying to see if anyone has successfully installed Reason 9?
[04:30] <myke> i already gave up and put Ableton on win10, but there's always hope
[04:30] <tubal> myke, I was just reading something about Abelton under WineX.
[04:31] <Transtibot> ive been using Tracktion but it isn't the same!!!
[04:33] <BenderRodriguez> how do I save a vlan/subinterface I've added via vconfig
[04:33] <Transtibot> Another issue. I have a Numark Mix track pro and the system doesn't want to see that it is there on Mixx or VDJ. is there an alternative program that will work? *slaps butt and yells*
[04:33] <tubal> Transtibot: Audacity is a big ol' DAW that runs under Linux. I don't think it's nearly as smooth as Reason, but still.
[04:33] <BenderRodriguez> I've defined a subinterface as ens3.20 (VLAN 20) in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:33] <myke> Transtibot: is that a true midi device?
[04:33] <BenderRodriguez> but it's not showing up when I do 'ip addr'
[04:33] <BenderRodriguez> at reboot
[04:34] <BenderRodriguez> it makes me angry and irrationally unhappy and I need it fixed
[04:34] <myke> i use a pioneer ddj on mixxx with linux
[04:34] <myke> audacity is a multitrack editor, not a full DAW
[04:34] <myke> it's part of a DAW but not a DAW
[04:34] <tubal> Just now looking at http://www.reaper.fm/download.php No Linux version. Durnit.
[04:35] <myke> i surveyed linux music software a few months back and became discouraged
[04:35] <tubal> myke, sorrry I meant Ardour.
[04:36] <myke> ah ok that's different :)
[04:36] <Transtibot> I have reaper that I use through wine
[04:36] <myke> that looked promising but i didn't try yet
[04:36] <tubal> http://ardour.org/
[04:36] <tubal> Transtibot, and Reaper does OK with wine?
[04:39] <Transtibot> yes I believe it did. I spent a nice chunk of time trying to figure it all out
[04:39] <tubal> Transtibot, and you documented it and posted it somewhere.  ... Right? ... Didn't you?  ;)
[04:40] <myke> actually thanks for reminding me about ardour, gonna try that instead of ableton
[04:40] <myke> gotta support the FOSS
[04:40] <tubal> myke, yw
[04:41] <Transtibot> i should open up my twitter and tweet for once with it to my 32 followers lol
[04:43] <Transtibot> myke i looked up ardour it does look ok
[04:57] <abhishek> I was facing this issue: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23909131/. Using ubuntu 16.04
[05:14] <lxl> exit
[05:19] <testuser2> hi
[05:23] <reisio> lxl: quit!
[05:23] <reisio> testuser2: hi
[05:30] <dharma> what is the substitute for proteus in ubuntu
[05:31] <reisio> dharma: that all depends
[05:31] <reisio> this application 'proteus' that has a terribad name that was already in use when they chose it
[05:31] <reisio> ...what it do?
[05:34] <dharma> how to install proteus cracked in ubuntu
[05:35] <dharma> its showing normal version
[05:35] <dharma> but not the license version
[05:35] <cfhowlett> dharma, we will NOT be helping you crack anything on this channel.  also see /msg ubottu piracy
[05:36] <reisio> I'll assume it's a game at this point
[05:37] <cfhowlett> seems to be, but as soon as he mentioned "cracked" I was done with it.
[05:39] <reisio> done with this redbook, I was done with it the minute I saw it
[05:51] <glache> hi
[05:52] <glache> How can I change my very first initial splash screen when I turn on my laptop.  I was able to change my login screen but I have a purple/pink splash screen that I would prefer to be black.  I'm not dual booting either, so I figure grub isn't the answer.(?)
[05:54] <otrenav> Hi. I'm having trouble getting my ethernet connection to work with a fresh install of 16.04. I've done what every StackOverflow (and others) post has suggested, but I still can't get it to work. Any help is appreciated. :)
[05:54] <glache> What are you connecting to?
[05:55] <otrenav> I've tried installing other OS's (e.g. Fedora) but they aren't able to connect with ethernet either. I remember having an ethernet connectio before I upgraded from 14.04 but since I don't want to back to that I haven't tried it. Any other hints?
[05:55] <otrenav> I'm connecting to a modem directly.
[05:56] <glache> Is it listed if you do a 'ip link'?
[05:57] <SlashLife^m> Morning :)
[05:57] <glache> Good morning.
[05:57] <otrenav> glache, yes, I see an entry for eno1 with what seems to be an IPV6.
[05:58] <SlashLife^m> 16.04 on a Dell laptop, two external screens; for some reason it tends to forget the screen layout - I send it to suspend with all three screens aligned next to each other and when waking up, it decides that all displays should be mirrored.
[05:58] <SlashLife^m> Seemingly it also moves some windows around, so they are irretrievable even after restoring the old layout.
[06:00] <SlashLife^m> Is there a way to quickly force the screen layout rather than manually having to pull them in their places again, or to even lock it, so it won't automatically be changed? This laptop is mostly used in a fixed location, so I don't mind having to manually switch between layouts.
[06:02]  * Sean_McG does the Harlem Shake
[06:03] <glache> wtf is the Harlem Shake?
[06:03] <drama> otrenav, does it say state up or state down?
[06:04] <cfhowlett> glache, this is ubuntu support.  please focus on ubuntu questions.  thank you.
[06:04] <glache> alright, but I saw a message that said that, so I just wondering...
[06:06] <n4n0`> lol
[06:17] <lordPoseidon> Hey, I want to know what is the use of /dev/input/event3 file, it is used in a project which I cloned from github
[06:17] <reisio> lordPoseidon: probably just crap in the repo, in this case
[06:17] <cfhowlett> lordPoseidon, perhaps best to ask the github maintainer?
[06:18] <joebk> I'm looking for an example program to display an image file in an X window.
[06:18] <reisio> /dev/input/foo is usually for input devices, like mice and things that are fundamentally mice (touchscreens, touchpads, styluses)
[06:18] <lordPoseidon> yes, they said for the keyboard, but I dont have a clue how these files can be used
[06:20] <reisio> lordPoseidon: just as cloned from the repo, they can't be; they're at best placeholders/reminders
[06:20] <lordPoseidon> ok
[06:20] <reisio> unless this is some crazy funky app, anyway
[06:25] <Guest10330> hi
[06:43] <Tango> hi
[07:20] <dudeji> what is chattr -i -a ??
[07:21] <EriC^^> dudeji: change attribute -immutable - append only
[07:22] <BlackDex> dudeji: -i is immutable, -a i don't know atm
[07:22] <BlackDex> ah append only ;)
[07:23] <dudeji> yeah , any php / apache dev here ? I am using php flock to lock a file and i am doing fclose also , but its making file immutable and append only for rest of life
[07:23] <BlackDex> dudeji: check `man ext4`
[07:24] <dudeji> for ?
[07:24] <BlackDex> for the chattr
[07:24] <BlackDex> can't remember what flock does
[07:24] <EriC^^> dudeji: how about when you do "touch file" does it create it without the attr?
[07:26] <BlackDex> dudeji: do you also use flock to unlock the file?
[07:26] <BlackDex> LOCK_UN
[07:26] <dudeji> yeah
[07:26] <dudeji> flock($fp, LOCK_EX) & flock($fp, LOCK_UN);
[07:27] <BlackDex> that should unlock it, also, i don't think php isn't using the ext4 attr options
[07:27] <BlackDex> is using i'mean
[07:30] <BlackDex> if you create just a small part of php script that does just that, and run it again, does it fails also?
[07:38] <Xz> hi there
[07:38] <Xz> I have relatively fresh Ubuntu 16.04LTS installation and I'm trying to run some python script
[07:38] <Xz> it complains about missing imports like 'sys' and couple other standard ones
[07:38] <Xz> my python is 2.7
[07:38] <Xz> am I missing some generic python package? I would imagine sys is very standard library
[07:39] <lordPoseidon> is there any way, can I change my group in C
[07:39] <lordPoseidon> i explain it
[07:39] <lordPoseidon> like when I check /dev/input/event4, its owner is root and is in input group, I need to read this in C using file descriptors, so I need sudo permisson to do so, as its group is input, and there is rw permission for that group so can I then read the file in that group
[07:39] <lordPoseidon>  without the need of the sudo permission
[07:40] <EriC^^> lordPoseidon: setgid() ?
[07:40] <lordPoseidon> will it work
[07:40] <EriC^^> ask in ##linux
[07:40] <lordPoseidon> ok thanks
[07:41] <EriC^^> np
[07:59] <iarinov> how can i report bug?
[08:00] <hateball> !bug | iarinov
[08:00] <iarinov> yes but i dont need all of this, only report serivice
[08:02] <iarinov> the 16.04.1 can't crypt the installation if user choose "Install" not "Try" in offline mode
[08:03] <iarinov> i check this 3 times, after reboot the system can't decrypt storage
[08:03] <iarinov> is there anyone check distro before release it?
[08:04] <glache> Terminix
[08:12] <iarinov> `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` will be ok with this problem?
[08:26] <Adie-noob> hi I need help thanks
[08:27] <Adie-noob> networking on my ubuntu server randomly went down today, and I'm unable to bring it back up. https://i.adie.space/tgfjlb.png
[08:27] <Adie-noob> there's a picture of my ifconfig -a, ifup/ifdown, and /etc/network/interfaces
[08:31] <IrcDroidClient> hi can i install ubuntu on an atom laptop?it has 32bit efi bios.
[08:32] <IrcDroidClient> i managed to installed debian,but it cant detect the wireless and sound card.
[08:33] <Xz> I'm looking for some cool mono-chrome unity (16.04LTS) themes
[08:33] <Xz> anybody knows good resource?
[08:35] <nisseni> I'm trying to install GD from the ondrej repo but I'm getting a 404 error. Anyone know why?
[08:35] <ducasse> Xz: gnome-look.org has a lot of stuff, dunno if they have what you're after.
[08:36] <Xz> ducasse: yeah, just browsing - they are the best and the only ones?
[08:37] <ducasse> Xz: best, no clue, i'm not a desktop guy. only one, far from it.
[08:38] <ducasse> IrcDroidClient: afaik 32.bit efi is problematic. don't know if that has been fixed.
[08:58] <Xz> how do I restart unity session to see all color changes applied?
[08:59] <ducasse> Xz: relogin?
[08:59] <Xz> ducasse: any other method? I have to kill all windows to do that
[09:01] <ducasse> Xz: not a unity user, sorry. are you talking about titlebar colors etc?
[09:01] <Xz> ducasse: yes!
[09:01] <ducasse> Xz: probably a wm thing, then. see if the wm has a --restart option or similar.
[09:02] <ducasse> Xz: unity uses compiz, i think?
[09:02] <bivo> 16.10, is there a way to change the video capture format in Cheese?
[09:02] <Xz> ducasse: yes, compiz
[09:02] <Xz> ducasse: no 'restart' option for compiz
[09:03] <Xz> ducasse: there is service 'x11-common
[09:03] <Xz> '
[09:03] <Xz> ducasse: maybe I restart that one?
[09:03] <ducasse> Xz: i suspect that will kill your session.
[09:05] <ducasse> Xz: you can't reload the x server 'underneath' a running session. if the wm can't reload you need to relogin.
[09:13] <testuser2> hi
[09:14] <EriC^^> hi
[09:25] <root> hey
[09:25] <root> hey
[09:26] <Guest10950> im da guest
[09:30] <this_self> Hi guys! I have very strange problem with dpkg and I didn't find anything about it in google. I have this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23909945/ when I trying to install some package. Any thought? I have ubuntu 16.04.1
[09:40] <Ankammarao> Hi All
[09:41] <Ankammarao> can any one help to download libstdc++.so.5 library for ubuntu s390x
[09:43] <mcphail> Ankammarao: Ubuntu on s390x has its own support channel
[09:44] <mcphail> Ankammarao: #ubuntu-s390x , according to the wiki page
[09:44] <Ankammarao> mcphail ok, thanks i will check
[09:45] <mcphail> Ankammarao: not sure if canonical offer free binary downloads, though
[09:49] <HaCkR> Hi
[09:49] <HaCkR> Anybody here?
[09:50] <aviseu> I've installed expressvpn and probably because the laptop turned off abruptly I now cannot access DNS without the vpn turned on. Pinging on 8.8.8.8 works fine. I changed the ipv4 settings to default already. But still doesn work without the vpn on. Where else would I need to change to make it work?
[09:51] <HaCkR> hi
[09:51] <HaCkR> 8.8.8.8 is the best option
[09:51] <HaCkR> Once a friend of mine had internet on Skype (Windows 7 OS) but no internet on any browser
[09:52] <HaCkR> From the internet company they said to put 8.8.8.8. on the DNS worked perfectly
[09:53] <HaCkR> I just want to ask... is it better to put i686 on i3 processor or will work better with Ubuntu MATE i386?.
[09:53] <k1l> dont install 32bit os on a 64bit cpu
[09:54] <HaCkR> I knew tha
[09:55] <HaCkR> Now I install i686
[09:55] <HaCkR> next step.. installing Knoppix i686 on other partition
[09:55] <HaCkR> But gotta save the files
[09:55] <k1l> i686 is still wrong. amd64 is the 64bit iso
[09:55] <HaCkR> I got 4 partitions with 3 operating systems
[09:56] <HaCkR> amd64 it is x86_x64
[09:56] <k1l> yes, that is the 64bit version of ubuntu, named amd64
[09:57] <HaCkR> Only WiFiSlax 64bit versions sucks on my laptop
[09:57] <HaCkR> Cannot open or read Network
[09:57] <k1l> what knoppix works best for you better ask the knoppix support.
[09:57] <HaCkR> I already know :)
[09:57] <k1l> same for WiFiSlax.
[09:58] <HaCkR> Distrowatch have good info
[09:58] <k1l> we can only support ubuntu and the official ubuntu flavors in here.
[09:58] <HaCkR> THere's one big annoying bug on ZorinOS
[09:59] <HaCkR> clicking on aplications after switching :(
[09:59] <k1l> even tho for zorin OS. HaCkR this channel is for ubuntu only. ask in #linux for generic linux questions
[09:59] <HaCkR> Best Ubuntu based
[10:00] <HaCkR> Now about Ubuntu MATE... WinE doesn't support some games.
[10:00] <HaCkR> does that depends on the video card?
[10:01] <k1l> that depends on wine. look at the app data base on the wine website if that is a know issue for that game and if there is something you can do
[10:01] <HaCkR> 512MB is bad idea when you want new games :(
[10:01] <HaCkR> WinE tricks helps a lot for that
[10:02] <HaCkR> also the command for compiability with some games
[10:02] <HaCkR> Now gotta restart, installation is done and need to leave live version and continue with applications
[10:08] <madsj> hi; somehow I made a conflict with key bindings so ctrl-tab (aka as alt-tab) is mapped to swapping between tabs in firefox/chrome or something similar in other programs
[10:09] <madsj> I tried with CCSM, but I don't spot where I have to change something. In the keybindings setting in Unity, it's mapped to what I what.
[10:18] <SlashLife^m> I'm trying to use sed to create an sed pattern from a template. Any good hints on how to make this easier (especially along the lines of special character escaping etc.)?
[10:20] <akik> SlashLife^m: maybe this could help you? https://regex101.com/
[10:21] <SlashLife^m> akik: Nope.
[10:23] <SlashLife^m> Actually ... this is probably not the right place to ask this in the first place. :)
[10:40] <caine> hello
[10:43] <Guest74844> whats up niggers
[10:45] <jink> :')
[10:47] <rifter> some people .. :P
[10:47] <tian_> test
[10:47] <rifter> tian_, we see you
[10:47] <rifter> do you have a question for us?
[10:47] <tian_> no ,
[10:47] <rifter> ok ;)
[11:04] <Strider> halo
[11:09] <jink> ppf: Thanks for you help, the other day.  I got the interface to work with all the right IPs.  However, I just noticed that it doesn't bring them all up after a reboot (which in turn make apache, postfix, etc. fail).  What did I do wrong?
[11:10] <ppf> jink: how do you configure them now?
[11:12] <jink> ppf: Like you said.  iface ens3 inet static \ address \ netmask \ gateway \ iface ens3 inet static \ address \ netmask.  And then the same for inet6 (gateway once, 3 ips)
[11:13] <ppf> so via /etc/interfaces. can you paste that somewhere?
[11:14] <jink> Sure, any preference where?
[11:14] <ppf> !paste
[11:14] <jink> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910363/
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> wich logs would show issues on switching workspaces? cant switch to programs anymore, have to manually click the workspaces to go there
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> syslog doesnt show anything usefull on 16.04.1 ubuntu desktop
[11:17] <kamild1996> Hello, I'm trying to make x0vncserver boot on startup via systemd service, but every time it fails with "status=1/FAILURE". It fails only on startup, if I log in and start it manually, it works fine.
[11:20] <ppf> jink: and what precisely happens when you (or the boot sequence) runs ifup -a?
[11:20] <jink> ppf: Should I down it first?
[11:20] <ppf> sure why not
[11:21] <j2daosh> hello all. how can i do "ls -ltr|cut -f8 -d' '" when the amount of spaces isn't always the same? is there a "delimiter = any whitespace" flag? so space space is treated the same as space?
[11:21] <jink> ppf: Postfix interferes, hold on, while I "kill all the things".
[11:23] <Ben64> j2daosh: don't parse ls
[11:23] <jink> ppf: "Waiting for DAD... Done" 3 times.
[11:23] <jink> ppf: And "ip addr" shows what it's supposed to show.
[11:24] <ppf> alright. can you check dmesg for the ifup output during boot?
[11:24] <kamild1996> I figured out my VNC service fails because '/usr/bin/x0vncserver: unable to open display ":0"', what could be the cause here
[11:25] <Ben64> kamild1996: because :0 doesn't exist until you log in
[11:25] <ppf> kamild1996: probably no X running on display :0
[11:25] <j2daosh> Ben64: it must not have had enough coffee yet. If i just need to get a list of files that match a certain criteria or if i am grepping a tab delimited file or checking anything with differeing amounts of whitespace in their line, how can i do that with cut?
[11:26] <kamild1996> How do I make the VNC server autostart so it's available on login screen then?
[11:26] <Ben64> j2daosh: well if you're trying to do something with files, you should probably be using find
[11:27] <jink> ppf: I'm not sure what I'm looking for.  I only see virtio_net virtio0 ens3: renamed from eth0
[11:27] <Ben64> j2daosh: but you probably don't want cut anyway, probably better with awk
[11:28] <ppf> j2daosh: or find
[11:28] <ppf> jink: paste the dmesg output
[11:28] <j2daosh> sure, i could perl it up and @results = `ls -ltr`;foreach $line (@results){ chomp($line); $value = (split(/\s+/, $line))[$column_I_want]; print "$value\n";} but that just seems way over doing it just to get some trivial text out of the console
[11:29] <Ben64> who said anything about perl
[11:29] <loegrath> What coding language do I need to know to get the most out of linux/ ubuntu?
[11:29] <Ben64> and really, don't use ls for stuff like this
[11:29] <ppf> kamild1996: instead of x0vncserver, you could use lightdms builtin one
[11:29] <ppf> leograth: don't think the two are really intertwined
[11:29] <Ben64> loegrath: don't really need to know any, but C I guess?
[11:30] <jink> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910403/
[11:30] <loegrath> Well where in the world do I start learning with regards in coding for Linux/ Ubuntu?
[11:30] <j2daosh> ok, forget LS then. say i have a tab delimited CSV and i want to quickly pull out the 3rd column.
[11:30] <Ben64> already answered that
[11:30] <loegrath> I'd like to get some hands on experience with coding around this OS.
[11:30] <j2daosh> cat $file|cut -f3 -d'\t'
[11:31] <Ben64> Feb 02 2017 03:27:43 <Ben64>	j2daosh: but you probably don't want cut anyway, probably better with awk
[11:31] <ppf> loegrath: first pick a project, then pick a language
[11:31] <jink> awk -F'\t' '{print $3}' file
[11:31] <j2daosh> wtf is awk
[11:31] <ppf> there's no dependence on the OS
[11:31] <j2daosh> i'll google
[11:32] <Zen> loegrath: any language that can be compiled to work on linux, pick a language you like, it probably works.
[11:32] <loegrath> I suppose I just like the easier access to terminal. Wanted to see what ubuntu had against windows.
[11:32] <loegrath> I've been learning C recently, barely getting to know my way around emacs and whatnot.
[11:35] <rifter> Ben64, loegrath I would actually say the most immediate use would come from learning bash scripting, but yeah, you can get a lot out of linux without being a programmer
[11:35] <ppf> jink: hm. which ubuntu is this?
[11:36] <jink> ppf: 16.10 server, afaik.
[11:36] <loegrath> is bash scripting specific to linux?
[11:36] <ppf> alright, then: journalctl -u networking
[11:36] <hateball> !alis | loegrath search for language specific or general programming here perhaps
[11:36] <ppf> loegrath: specific to bash
[11:37] <loegrath> I don't quite follow but I'll do certainly look more into it
[11:37] <jink> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910420/
[11:37] <ppf> !bash
[11:37] <ppf> well that's not helpful
[11:37] <hateball> !posix
[11:37] <hateball> meh.
[11:38] <ppf> loegrath: bash is a shell. it can be controlled through a scripting language. it runs on linux and windows (and probable mac, i don't know)
[11:39] <hateball> It does, and BSD in general
[11:40] <rifter> ppf, yeah it runs on Mac OS X and comes with it as the default now. Not as it's relevant. It's ported to practically everything.
[11:40] <loegrath> So is this bash script what ubuntu runs off of?
[11:40] <Zen> loegrath: linux isn't an operating system, its just the kernel, an operating system using linux is a collection of programs bundled together to make a usable system
[11:41] <loegrath> so ubuntu?
[11:41] <ppf> loegrath: no
[11:41] <loegrath> or dist
[11:41] <jink> loegrath: Bash is a shell, like the command prompt on windows.
[11:41] <loegrath> I'm lost here
[11:41] <loegrath> yes
[11:41] <rifter> loegrath, the reason I suggested bash is that since that is the command line shell used by default in linux, you'll be able to learn about the command line and deal with tasks better by using it. "man bash" will give a lot of information
[11:41] <Zen> loegrath: each part of the operating system may be written in a different language, it doesn't really matter
[11:41] <loegrath> Really, that is some neat info there
[11:42] <rifter> loegrath, if you're using windows, the command shell there has scripts too, like batch files. This is similar
[11:42] <loegrath> I've just began using ubuntu
[11:42] <loegrath> So coding can be made in any shell, am I right here?
[11:42] <rifter> loegrath, yeah, the linux kernel is written in C as are many programs. But as Zen said, there are many languages and many programs written in many languages
[11:42] <loegrath> shell being where you code in
[11:43] <ppf> loegrath: no
[11:43] <rifter> you can code in or out of the shell, but sure you can code any shell. coding and the shell are independant
[11:43] <Zen> loegrath: look up the difference between native code languages and interpreted languages.
[11:43] <rifter> good point zen
[11:44] <Zen> As a note, c/c++ is native, bash / shell is interpreted
[11:44] <loegrath> the difference being that one requires a compiler and one doesn't?
[11:44] <rifter> loegrath, as others have said, your best bet if you are learning to code is to pick a language and try and learn it. They're going to pretty much all be available to you as will development environments and documentation. Picking a project first might help too.
[11:44] <loegrath> so high-level languages vs assembly languages
[11:44] <rifter> partly yes loegrath
[11:44] <loegrath> right, will get on that then
[11:44] <loegrath> I've heard C is a good place to start
[11:45] <rifter> loegrath, no, high level and assembly is a whole other difference
[11:45] <ppf> loegrath: no
[11:45] <loegrath> then maybe branch into Java
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> loegrath: maybe the ##programming channel might be usefull?
[11:45] <loegrath> probably
[11:45] <loegrath> just thought I'd give a shot here
[11:45] <rifter> loegrath, sure if you want to learn programming c is not a bad place
[11:45] <ppf> C is not a good place to start, really
[11:45]  * Zen sighs
[11:45] <loegrath> Guess I'll be starting with C
[11:45] <loegrath> should probably get a grasp on that before doing anything crazy complex
[11:45] <ppf> but ##programming is where you should be discussing this
[11:46] <rifter> loegrath, a compiled language is one meant to be compiled into machine code. An interpreted languages is not compiled and so is interpreted at runtime
[11:46] <Zen> C is a good start if you want to understand programming at a lower level
[11:46] <rifter> yeah
[11:46] <loegrath> Thanks for all the advice fellas.
[11:46] <ppf> sure
[11:49] <jink> ppf: Any brilliant ideas? :)
[11:49] <ppf> jink: journalctl -u networking
[11:49] <jink> ppf: I pasted that to you. :D
[11:51] <ppf> sorry, missed it
[11:52] <jink> ppf: No worries.
[11:55] <ppf> jink: can you paste ip route?
[11:57] <jink> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910465/
[12:07] <ppf> jink: hm. the error means that two conflicting gateways/routes are being set
[12:08] <jink> ppf: But I imagine you should have a single gateway for both ipv4 and ipv6, right?
[12:12] <jink> ppf: Let me comment the entire interfaces file and see what happens when I reboot.
[12:13] <ppf> jink: which ips are actually missing after ifup?
[12:14] <jink> ppf: ipv6 (::25 and ::194)
[12:15] <ppf> right!
[12:15] <jink> Right? :o
[12:16] <ppf> your v6 addresses are all on the same subnet
[12:16] <jink> They are.
[12:17] <jink> I can use a /64 inside a /48 from the provider.
[12:18] <jink> brb ntp
[12:19] <marul> in the network manager, wifi is enabled but no connections are coming up. the dmesg reports this error:
[12:19] <marul> IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
[12:19] <marul> can someone help?
[12:19] <nutzz> join #cruce-devel
[12:20] <ppf> jink: if they're on the same network _and_ on the same (virtual) interface, then their routing table entries are identical
[12:21] <marul> anyone? please
[12:21] <jink> ppf: Yes, there are, as shown by ip -6 route.
[12:22] <ppf> what you can try is adding different metrics to the different addresses
[12:23] <ppf> (ifup can't add the same routing table entry twice, that's what fails for the second v6 interface)
[12:23] <jink> Hmmm.  Ok.  Makes sense.  So, how do I add a metric? :D
[12:24] <ppf> "metric <number>"
[12:25] <Orka> hi
[12:25] <jink> ppf: Higher or lower than the current 256?
[12:25] <ppf> lower means better
[12:25] <jink> Ok.
[12:25] <Orka> i try to install ubuntu touch on my mpman but i briqued it...
[12:25] <rifter> Orka, please state whatever question you have and we will try and help
[12:25] <ppf> so your prefered default ip should get the lowest metric
[12:26] <k1l> Orka: for the ubuntu touch related issues please ask in #ubuntu-touch
[12:26] <Orka> OK
[12:28] <jink> ppf: Thanks.  Let's see how this goes.  I don't intend to reboot that often, but I'll let you know what happens when I do again.  This seems to work (just rebooted).
[12:28] <jink> !ppf++
[12:28] <ppf> :)
[12:28] <jink> Silly bot. :)
[12:33] <ByteMore> I have just setup kubuntu 16.10 on a new laptop with an i5 u7200 cpu and ssd disk. It boots so fast, that I can't use fstab to mount cifs shares, so I made a script that wait for WIFI to be up before I mount the shares. The same goes for autostart of firefox and chromium browser.
[12:33] <ByteMore> That's annoying, but it works. The very annoying thing is that when I shutdown the laptop it hangs for several minutes, trying to umont the shares, which it can't, becourse the network goes down before the umount has finished.
[12:34] <ByteMore> Is there any way to workaround that?
[12:42] <ikevin> hi
[12:44] <ikevin> i'm running ratpoison with xvfb-run (on display :99), all work fine, so, now i want to send command to ratepoison using like: export DISPLAY=:99 && ratpoison -c "xterm", so it give me error "No protocol specified" and "Can't open display"
[12:45] <ikevin> anyone have an idea of how can i send command to ratpoison?
[12:49] <Tahr-Poop> ByteMore, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/226280/umount-network-drives-with-systemd-before-shutdown https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162236
[12:50] <akik> ByteMore: i had the same problem but when i moved the cifs mounting to be done by the automounter, the problem went away
[12:56] <ByteMore> Thanks. I'll try that.
[12:57] <akik> ByteMore: it was really weird that the system stops the network before umounting network shares
[12:57] <Deceipher> Hello, anyone that can help me with a WiFi connection issue?
[13:01] <rewb0rn> hello, are there any known problems in ubuntu 16 with timezone data for Berlin? local berlin time should set to UTC/GMT + 1 but is set to UTC
[13:01] <ByteMore> akik: Yes, so annoying. The OS should take care of that, not the user
[13:02] <Deceipher> When I'm trying to connect to a WPA2 protected wifi network (any), either with wpa_supplicant or in the graphical environment, the password is not accepted although I'm sure it is correct. Driver loaded is iwlwifi and I do see all the networks.. Any idea on what I can try to do to fix this?
[13:06] <riens> when a laptop is being charged, is the system running solely on the power supply?
[13:06] <riens> or is it running through a combination of the battery and the power supply?
[13:06] <brunch875> I'm convinced it uses just the power supply
[13:07] <EriC^^> riens: why do you ask?
[13:07] <brunch875> but it depends on the manufacturer, I guess
[13:08] <riens> is there not a definitive answer to this question?
[13:08] <k1l> riens: some do use the battery to supply power peaks on usage. but that depends on the exact model in use. the guys in ##hardware might know better
[13:09] <riens> k1l: i was experiencing problems with the wifi, which were being reported in dmesg such as "wlo1: link is not ready yet"
[13:09] <riens> i was using a defect battery when such errors arose, but now when im using a better one, i have not experienced that error yet
[13:10] <riens> the defect battery was being charged too at all times
[13:11] <riens> i was wondering if the problem was being caused by some kind of a drop in the voltage supply, or due to the defect battery itself
[13:11] <riens> k1l: can power issues lead to problems with the wifi?
[13:12] <riens> actually it is happening once again
[13:13] <atny> hi
[13:13] <riens> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910753/
[13:13] <riens> im getting these errors, and am unable to connect to the wifi
[13:13] <riens> the network manager has stopped showing the connections
[13:15] <atny> 有能看懂中文的朋友吗
[13:15] <ByteMore> riens: U could take out the battery and test without it
[13:15] <k1l> !cn | atny
[13:16] <riens> can someone look at the errors and give their opinion?
[13:16] <mass> hi
[13:16] <k1l> riens: what wifi chip is it? "lspci" will list it
[13:17] <riens> k1l: 07:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[13:17] <mass> can someone help me in enabling shared folders in vmware for ubuntu?
[13:19] <k1l> riens: lsmod | grep ath
[13:20] <riens> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910784/
[13:20] <k1l> riens: does "ifconfig" list the the wifi device?
[13:21] <riens> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23910793/
[13:22] <k1l> riens: there is the wifi connection and the proper module is loaded.
[13:23] <riens> k1l: im connected to the internet through a mobile broadband
[13:24] <riens> k1l: the network manager does not show any connections under wifi, it merely says "disconnected"
[13:24] <k1l> riens: you can only use one connection at a time with networkmanager
[13:24] <riens> enabling the wifi in the network manager outputs in dmesg "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready"
[13:25] <teribleux> hola
[13:25] <riens> k1l: yes but i have experienced this problem even when there was no connection
[13:25] <riens> k1l: are you telling me that there is no problem with the wifi? if then, could there be some bug in network manager?
[13:26] <teribleux> Hey dotflaot
[13:27] <k1l> riens: does "rfkill list" show some blocked yes?
[13:28] <k1l> riens: and what ubuntu is that exactly?
[13:28] <james0r2> new to snap. decent success with it so far but after removing a package (?) i have a mounted volume the size of that snap that shows up on the taskbar and in files
[13:33] <hateball> riens: ar9285 should work out of the box. sure you havent disabled it with a physical switch?
[13:35] <Ilyas> who maintains tcpdump for Ubuntu Xenial?
[13:37] <k1l> Ilyas: if you mean the recent security issues, the security team is aware of them: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tcpdump.html
[13:37] <k1l> Ilyas: if there is something else, file a bug on launchpad
[13:38] <Ilyas> k1l: nah it was tthe former, thanks. will keep my eye on it
[13:42] <massprog> i have problems with vmware tools anyone can help me?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> state the details massprog
[13:42] <massprog> sudo vmware-config-tools.pl not found
[13:45] <massprog> that command was part of instructions for enabling shared folders
[13:49] <edenrts> Hello. Am currently using kernel 4.4, is it possible to use 3.7?
[13:50] <k1l> edenrts: downgrade?
[13:55] <ikevin> how can i disable pulseaudio start from dbus?
[13:57] <edenrts> k1l: yes a downgrade from 15.10
[13:57] <k1l> edenrts: no. and 15.10 is not supported anymore. you cant use that
[13:57] <ppf> ikevin: autospawn=no
[13:57] <edenrts> k1l: i really have to
[13:58] <edenrts> k1l: maybe now i am on 16.04, i have to check that
[13:58] <k1l> edenrts: why? 15.10 doesnt have support anymore. so you are on your own and have a insecure system
[13:59] <edenrts> k1l: i just need to run a 3.7 kernel so i can install a kernel module
[13:59] <k1l> edenrts: "lsb_release -sd" will tell you the version of ubuntu
[13:59] <edenrts> k1l: rebooting
[14:00] <k1l> edenrts: what kernel module is it? and why doesnt it exist for the standard ubuntu kernel?
[14:02] <edenroz> k1l: am back
[14:02] <edenroz> k1l: so i am on xubuntu 16.04, kernel 4.4 generic....i need something before the commit 3.17, preferably 3.7
[14:04] <jophish> Is there a way to stop ubuntu opening windows when I plug my phone in https://gist.github.com/expipiplus1/4eb76123e9516d6e481da9fc50805f5e
[14:06] <derf-> Hi,  I'm trying to get some use out of the unity dash - I'm on 16.10 and I have unity-scope-calculator installed (it was installed automatically) but I can't actually make it work.  I type equations in the dash and it just says there's nothing that matches my search.  Is there a list of activated scopes?
[14:07] <edenroz> Hi, I am on 16.04 and i want to install kernel 3.7 or at least before 3.17
[14:07] <derf-> jophish, have you looked in settings -> details -> removable media ?
[14:07] <k1l> edenroz: why exactly?
[14:08] <edenroz> k1l: i have to install some modules
[14:08] <Southern_Gentlem> edenroz,  you realize you are opening yourself up to so major vulnerbilities
[14:08] <edenroz> k1l: the first one hooks the scheduler and the second alter the page table on a per thread basis
[14:09] <edenroz> Southern_Gentlem: i know but i really have to do it
[14:09] <Tahr-Poop> derf-, have you disabled online search?
[14:09] <edenroz> Southern_Gentlem: i will use the downgraded kernel only for development of some other modules
[14:10] <k1l> !mainline | edenroz but you are on your own then
[14:10] <jophish> perfect, thanks derf-
[14:10] <edenroz> k1l: thanks
[14:12] <derf-> Tahr-Poop, yes, is that somehow keyed to searching local scopes?
[14:12] <Tahr-Poop> derf-, yep
[14:13] <krkan5253> a
[14:13] <kucukayi> b
[14:13] <krkan5253> c
[14:13] <kucukayi> wtf are you doing
[14:14] <krkan5253> im trying to get in ##linux
[14:14] <kucukayi> me too
[14:14] <krkan5253> lol
[14:14] <krkan5253> ill tell you how.
[14:14] <kucukayi> i m waiting
[14:14] <krkan5253> type /nick "your'e nick"
[14:15] <krkan5253> then type /msg register "nick" "password" "email"
[14:15] <derf-> Tahr-Poop, well, that gave me the answer, but also a whole bunch of unnecessary crap.   Is there a way to configure scopes other than that on/off ?
[14:16] <krkan5253> go to mozzila and log into your email
[14:16] <kucukayi> lol
[14:16] <krkan5253> and copy the command in your inbox
[14:16] <krkan5253> and paste it in this chat :P
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:16] <krkan5253> then type /join ##linux
[14:16] <kucukayi> thx buddy
[14:17] <krkan5253> np :
[14:17] <kucukayi> you are a good man
[14:17] <krkan5253> you too
[14:17] <krkan5253> ill ad you
[14:17] <krkan5253> add*
[14:17] <kucukayi> ok
[14:17] <edenroz> k1l: i know that i am on my own but i got depedancy issue while inmstalling
[14:22] <Tahr-Poop> derf-, right click on dash plugin to disable them or simple add them to dconf com.canonical.Unity.Lenses
[14:22] <edenroz> k1l: It's working thanks very much!
[14:25] <mike_carles> Hi folks! Is it even possible to customize ubuntu-server ?
[14:25] <mike_carles> Any links and info explaining it?
[14:26] <ppf> mike_carles: customize how
[14:26] <mike_carles> ppf: I mean customise its installer CD image, to have more thing by default
[14:26] <Southern_Gentlem> like??
[14:27] <edenroz> k1l: i installed the kernel  headers but i can't build my modules
[14:27] <ppf> i expect it to work exactly the same as for the desktop version
[14:28] <mike_carles> ppf: no it doesnt work. when I rebuild CD image from the changed-extracted one in middle of Installing it will fail
[14:28] <mike_carles> ppf: I have searched more, It seemed to be known issue, as explained in github/kamilion/customizer 's wiki
[14:29] <mike_carles> ppf: they only say the server-cd is different than desktop (in structure, maybe??) and they dont support it too.
[14:32] <mike_carles> ppf: any opinions ?
[14:33] <ppf> that kind of answers your question then, doesn't it?
[14:34] <mike_carles> No it doesnt, I am asking "how can i customise the server ISO" and I know it's different from desktop :)
[14:34] <mike_carles> ppf ^
[14:37] <guardian__> hi, I am having issues with the shutdown and restart functions. The system hangs while I try to shutdown or restart the system
[14:37] <guardian__> any help?
[14:37] <ppf> guardian__: hit escape to see why
[14:38] <guardian__> kernal version is 4.8.0.37
[14:38] <mike_carles> ppf: am I even on right channel :-) ?
[14:39] <mike_carles> Isn't there any official docs for customising server ISOs ?
[14:39] <guardian__> ppf : while hitting escape the screen is not even pausing the terminal comes n it goes to the turn off screen and hangs
[14:39] <Giora> Why is there high hdd usage without swap when ubuntu is running out of ram?
[14:40] <guardian__> ppf : I tried this, but no use : http://askubuntu.com/questions/508029/ubuntu-14-04-stuck-on-shutdown
[14:41]  * enyc looks around wondering what happened to 16.04.2 "Expected 2017-01-19"
[14:41] <guardian__> @eric^^ : hey can u help?
[14:42] <ppf> mike_carles: you can ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[14:42] <ppf> guardian__: what's the turn off screen
[14:43] <mike_carles> ppf: I'll do, Thanks ;)
[14:43] <guardian__> The loading screen of lubuntu...
[14:45] <guardian__> ppf : Ok I got the events log. The system hangs after "[OK] Reached Target Shutdown"
[14:45] <krkan5253> unplug it XD
[14:45] <guardian__> krkan : unplug a laptop? :O
[14:45] <krkan5253> oh
[14:45] <krkan5253> lol
[14:46] <krkan5253> take out the battery
[14:46] <akik> guardian__: did you test with the reboot= kernel parameters?
[14:46] <krkan5253> :)
[14:46] <ppf> guardian__: hm. try to add acpi=force to your kernel commandline
[14:46] <guardian__> ppf : I spend 2 days to install the OS as my lap only supports uefi boot
[14:47] <akik> guardian__: for example "acpi=force reboot=acpi". there are other values for reboot= which you could test
[14:47] <guardian__> ppf: already did that. Your talking about : "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=noirq acpi=force apm=power_off quiet splash", right?
[14:47] <ppf> well, i'd try those one by one
[14:47] <guardian__> akik : please advise.
[14:47] <ppf> yes, try akik's suggestion
[14:48] <ppf> guardian__: which ubuntu is that, btw
[14:48] <akik> guardian__: try "acpi=force reboot=acpi", then other values from here if that doesn't work: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/137313.html
[14:48] <guardian__> As my lap is not able to run ubuntu I installed lubuntu 16.10
[14:48] <krkan5253> lubuntu lol what that name
[14:48] <guardian__> akik : ty, let me try.
[14:49] <ppf> what kind of laptop is it?
[14:49] <guardian__> acer es1 533
[14:49] <guardian__> Some people even returned the lap as installtion of linux is so difficult
[14:50] <k1l_> enyc: it was postponed due to serious boot issues on arm64.
[14:50] <k1l_> enyc: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-January/004018.html
[14:51] <enyc> ooh didn't get the arm64 part o the problem ok
[14:52] <Narev> Hi there, anyone around?
[14:52] <krkan5253> lel
[14:52] <k1l_> new date is the 9th of february now, enyc
[14:52] <Narev> I'm a Linux novice running Ubuntu 16.04
[14:52] <k1l_> krkan5253: this is not icq, please be helpfull in this channel.
[14:52] <Narev> Yesterday I tried to install the graphics drivers for my Radeon 3d card
[14:53] <krkan5253> ok
[14:53] <k1l_> Narev: the video card driver for amd cards should be loaded automatically. since amd puts the video driver amd_gpu in the kernel now.
[14:53] <Narev> Now when I go to login, it flashes to a black screen with a message too fast to read, and puts me right back at login
[14:54] <Squarism> anyone know of killer apps any ubuntu desktop user should run?
[14:54] <Narev> Mine is an older comp
[14:54] <krkan5253> Im downloading Black Arch :)
[14:55] <k1l_> krkan5253: one last time: this channel is for ubuntu support only. stop that chatter in here.
[14:55] <Narev> Right now I'm using "Try Ubuntu" from my thumbdrive, cause I can't log in any other way
[14:55] <krkan5253> ok
[14:56] <Narev> The radeon instructions mentioned making myself a member of the "video" group which I wasn't able to do
[14:57] <Narev> Any thoughts on a possible fix?
[14:58] <ppf> why weren't you able to do this
[14:59] <Narev> I tried adding myself to video as they showed me, and I couldn't get it to work
[14:59] <Narev> As I said, I'm a novice
[15:00] <krkan5253> I registered yesterday.
[15:00] <krkan5253> How do i login now.
[15:00] <krkan5253> help
[15:03] <gpanzuto> !list
[15:03] <gpanzuto> ciao
[15:03] <Bey0ndB1nary> is it possible to Move from Ubuntu-Gnome to " Ubuntu Studio " ?
[15:07] <Narev> So does anyone have any thoughts on how to proceed for me?
[15:08] <Southern_Gentlem> Krkan123, /ns help identify
[15:09] <ppf> !pm guardian__
[15:09] <ppf> !pm | guardian__
[15:09] <Narev> Okay, here it is again...
[15:09] <Narev> Yesterday I tried to install the graphics drivers for my Radeon 3d card
[15:09] <Narev> Now when I go to login, it flashes to a black screen with a message too fast to read, and puts me right back at login
[15:09] <Narev> Mine is an older comp
[15:10] <Narev> Right now I'm using "Try Ubuntu" from my thumbdrive, cause I can't log in any other way
[15:10] <Narev> The radeon instructions mentioned making myself a member of the "video" group which I wasn't able to do
[15:10] <Southern_Gentlem> why not?
[15:10] <Narev> I tried adding myself to video as they showed me, and I couldn't get it to work
[15:10] <guardian__> My restarting fucntion is working fine now, but shutdown still hangs my system
[15:11] <Narev> I figured it was something I could fix after the reboot
[15:11] <ppf> guardian__: what's your commandline now?
[15:12] <Narev> Like I said, I'm using the try ubuntu thing from my insrallation thumbdrive
[15:12] <guardian__> ppf : The system hangs after "[OK] Reached Target Shutdown"
[15:12] <ppf> yes, i what's the kernel commandline you're using
[15:12] <ppf> cat /proc/cmdline
[15:13] <EriC^^> guardian__: hey
[15:14] <guardian__> ppf: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0.37
[15:14] <Narev> So what should I do here, reinstall Linux?
[15:14] <guardian__> hi eric^^
[15:14] <guardian__> I have been waiting for you
[15:14] <ppf> guardian__: isn't that missing some pieces?
[15:14] <Southern_Gentlem> Narev,  reboot (without the usb)
[15:15] <Southern_Gentlem> at the login in screen do a control-alt-f3
[15:15] <Southern_Gentlem> see if you can get to a terminal windows
[15:15] <Southern_Gentlem> from there you can check logs and even undo what you did
[15:16] <guardian__> ppf : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-37-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=be1d9b04-a6a8-412c-af93-7a49e23c4f5f ro quiet splash acpi=force reboot=acpi vt.handoff=7
[15:17] <EriC^^> guardian__: what's the problem?
[15:18] <guardian__> I had a hard time installing ubuntu on my new lap acer es1 533 as it supportsd only uefi boot. Now I installed it, but the shutdown tends to hang the system
[15:18] <johnflux_> In 16.10   apturl  no longer works because it needs pyqt4.qtwebkit  which appears to have been removed
[15:18] <johnflux_> so apt:   urls in firefox don't work
[15:19] <guardian__> eric^^ any suggestions?
[15:20] <nacc> johnflux_: apturl is in the repositories and doesn't depend on any qt stuff (afaict)?
[15:20] <nacc> johnflux_: (it is a gtk frontend)
[15:20] <ar1nov> hi
[15:21] <ar1nov> how to get UUID of the USB device?
[15:21] <EriC^^> guardian__: try pressing esc and see if it says what it's doing
[15:21] <ar1nov> it is not the block device
[15:21] <EriC^^> ar1nov: sudo blkid
[15:21] <nacc> ar1nov: do USB devices have UUIDs?
[15:21] <guardian__> eric^^ I tried it, it hangs after"[OK] Reached Target Shutdown"
[15:22] <johnflux_> nacc: if I run apturl   it tries to run apturl-kde
[15:22] <johnflux_> nacc: so I guess they made two frontends
[15:22] <nacc> johnflux_: from the repositories?
[15:22] <johnflux_> nacc: yes - brand new outofthebox kubuntu installation
[15:22] <nacc> johnflux_: oh well that's apturl-kde (not apturl)
[15:23] <nacc> johnflux_: and probably because you're on kubuntu :)
[15:23] <Narev> I'm quite a novice, so I wouldn't know what to do with the terminal. Try to follow Radeon's instructions to add me to the video group?
[15:23] <EriC^^> guardian__: did you try adding any acpi_osi stuff?
[15:23] <guardian__> eric^^ I tried this : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force apm=power_off"
[15:23] <nacc> johnflux_: iiuc, apturl-kde depends on python3-pyqt4 which is available
[15:24] <nacc> johnflux_: can you pastebin the error you are getting?
[15:25] <johnflux_> nacc: pastebin.com/GcD2Lzhz
[15:26] <guardian__> and also tried GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force reboot=acp"
[15:29] <mozammel> does anyone help me to find out why some apps use gnome decoration and some app use unity decoration ? I'm using ubuntu 16.10, unity. here is link of 2 different pic . http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-02-02_21-34-29-2aTqHWDB.png & /home/quakestring/Downloads/Etcher-1.0.0-beta.18-linux-x64.zip
[15:29] <mozammel> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-02-02_21-30-18-hUwsvV3o.png
[15:30] <guardian__> eric^^ : I tried sudo shutdown -h now  but it also doesnt make a diff
[15:30] <nacc> johnflux_: interesting, it looks ike there *should* be a python3-pyqt4.qtwebkit (there is for qt5, src:pyqt5), but it wasn't -- i'd file a bug, i guess, against apturl
[15:32] <X2> asdas
[15:32] <EriC^^> guardian__: aha
[15:32] <X2> ada
[15:32] <tigerishant> ada
[15:32] <X2> sasas
[15:32] <X2> asd
[15:32] <X2> sa
[15:32] <X2> s
[15:32] <X2> a
[15:32] <X2> s
[15:32] <X2> as
[15:33] <EriC^^> guardian__: for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control; do echo on | sudo tee "$i"; done
[15:33] <EriC^^> guardian__: try that command
[15:37] <dkettman> K
[15:38] <Bey0ndB1nary> is it possible to Move from Ubuntu-Gnome to " Ubuntu Studio?
[15:38] <jinxi1> hi, my .bash_rc file is gone?
[15:38] <nacc> jinxi1: it's .bashrc normally
[15:38] <jinxi1> where do I get a copy of the .bash_rc file?
[15:38] <ppf> jinxi1: is that a question?
[15:38] <EriC^^> jinxi1: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[15:39] <jinxi1> nacc: that is also gone
[15:39] <ppf> /etc/skel has the default one
[15:39] <ppf> any modifications you made are gone, though
[15:39] <EriC^^> Bey0ndB1nary: i think so, it might make a mess though
[15:39] <tekeli-li> jinxi1, It is not normally displayed in your file manager unless you tell it to "show hidden files".
[15:41] <EriC^^> guardian__: any luck?
[15:42] <jinxi1> tekeli-li: I think I deleted it accidently.
[15:44] <Lavinho> good morning
[15:44] <Lavinho> soeedtiuch 330 ubuntu 16.10
[15:44] <Lavinho> ??
[15:45] <Lavinho> speedtouch
[15:49] <heari> hi guys
[15:51] <nacc> Lavinho: that wasn't a question...
[15:51] <Lavinho> speedtouch 330 ubuntu 16.10
[15:51] <nacc> Lavinho: repeating it doesn't make it a question...
[15:52] <Lavinho> How to run speedtouch 330 on ubuntu 16.10
[15:52] <Lavinho> ?
[15:57] <guardian__> eric^^ : I tired the command it shows :on on on on on
[15:57] <EriC^^> guardian__: ok, try shutting down using shutdown -h now
[15:57] <guardian__> eric^^ : tried it but still the system hangs with the os logo
[15:58] <ppf> hit escape, or remove quite splash from your commandline to see the text
[15:58] <mqg> What  Evaluation Assurance Level Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 LTS 64bit  is categorized.
[16:01] <nacc> mqg: i believe it depends somehat on the hardware
[16:02] <EriC^^> guardian__: try to add "modprobe.blacklist=dw_dmac,dw_dmac_core" to grub instead of acpi_osi stuff
[16:03] <mqg> I use ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 in microsoft Azure
[16:03] <guardian__> eric^^__ : shld I remove the entire paramters? " "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force apm=power_off""
[16:03] <guardian__> ?
[16:04] <EriC^^> guardian__: yeah, just try with modprobe.blacklist=....
[16:04] <guardian__> ok
[16:05] <nacc> !pm | mqg
[16:06] <mqg> nacc don't know what is the  Evaluation Assurance Level of Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 LTS 64bit  in microsoft Azure ???
[16:07] <nacc> mqg: no, i don't know what it is
[16:07] <ikonia> it's basically the support/comatibility promise
[16:07] <ikonia> it's an Azure thing - and defined by Microsoft I believe
[16:17] <guardian__> eric^^ I tried it but it stills hangs, atleast now the progress bar fills up to the 3rd dot after changing this, and then only it hangs. Earlier it used to hang while the progress bar reaches first dot itself
[16:17] <EriC^^> guardian__: does pressing esc show more stuff?
[16:17] <guardian__> Ya plz wait I will post pic
[16:19] <agd> how can i know whether there are any security updates available, without downloading them?
[16:19] <EriC^^> guardian__: ok
[16:19] <nrushton> I have a node in my cluster doing ~3Tb compaction and I've set compaction throughput to 0 for that node. But looking at iostat shows it's only reading ~4mb/sec on average on an EBS gp2 volume, cpu iowait is low(~6%), and cpu utilization is low (~11%), IOPS are not maxed out. The compaction is projected to take ~5 days, is this normal? or are there other settings I'm missing to make this move faster?
[16:20] <nrushton> major compaction*
[16:20] <guardian__> eric^^ : http://tinypic.com/m/jtoz9k/4
[16:20] <agd> anyone?
[16:20] <agd> how can i know if there are any security updates available
[16:20] <nacc> agd: you can just download via `apt update` which doesn't download them, but updates the indexes
[16:21] <nacc> agd: depends on your sources.list only containing the release and security repositories
[16:22] <ubang4bucks> is ubuntu-touch able to run on generic android devices?
[16:22] <nacc> !touch | ubang4bucks
[16:22] <cybex_> hi all, need some help. I installed pulseaudio equalizer. I have the following error "module-ladspa-sink.c: Master sink not found", "module.c: Failed to load module "module-ladspa-sink""  "main.c: Module load failed.", thoughts?
[16:23] <EriC^^> guardian__: that's with shutdown -h now?
[16:23] <agd> nacc: actually "/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable" works for this purpose
[16:24] <agd> nacc: at the moment, there are no security updates available
[16:25] <nacc> agd: i don't believe that actually updates the cache
[16:25] <ksan02> yolo
[16:25] <nacc> agd: it just looks at what is currently available per apt locally
[16:25] <nacc> agd: technically per update manager
[16:26] <ksan02> does someone want a free shell file?
[16:26] <agd> nacc: what then is the better alternative
[16:26] <nacc> agd: what i said; run `apt update` then run apt-check I guess
[16:27] <nacc> agd: i'm not sure why this is particularly useful though?
[16:27] <EriC^^> guardian__: ?
[16:28] <guardian__> eric^^ : before changing the code that you proposed, after changing I am uploading
[16:28] <guardian__> give me a min plz
[16:28] <EriC^^> guardian__: ok, did you ever try shutdown -P now?
[16:28] <guardian__> no I havent
[16:28] <guardian__> should I try it
[16:28] <guardian__> ?
[16:28] <EriC^^> try with that, yes
[16:29] <EriC^^> continue uploading the pic though
[16:29] <EriC^^> it might not work with -P
[16:29] <ksan02> lol what is going on
[16:29] <agd> nacc: apt-check: command not found
[16:30] <guardian__> eric^^ : http://tinypic.com/m/jtozdj/4
[16:30] <nacc> agd: seriously? the command you *just* found.
[16:31] <agd> nacc: but i asked you for a "better" alternative
[16:31] <agd> you said this one is not good
[16:31] <guardian__> eric^^ it shows invalid option p
[16:32] <nacc> agd: yes, and i said, "run `apt update` then run apt-check`"
[16:32] <nacc> agd: which is different than running apt-check on its own.
[16:32] <nacc> agd: the point is, apt-check looks at the current cache of apt's archives. So you have to update them first before 'checking' it
[16:32] <terrible> how can i use the command find with case sensitive??
[16:33] <EriC^^> guardian__: try with capital p
[16:33] <EriC^^> terrible: -name instead of -iname
[16:34] <guardian__> eric^^ still it hangs
[16:34] <guardian__> I got similar screen which I have uploaded just before
[16:34] <EriC^^> guardian__: does rebooting do the same?
[16:35] <guardian__> rebooting was working fine after I changed the code, let me check now with the new code
[16:35] <terrible> EriC^^: with -name it doesnt work
[16:35] <sirv> ubuntu desktop is not usable for beginners ... iam struggling for 2 hours to create a basic samba share which is visible on network
[16:36] <ksan02> ubuntu is like the easiest linux distro
[16:36] <EriC^^> terrible: find /dir -name 'stuff'
[16:36] <guardian__> eric^^ reboot is wokring fine.
[16:36] <terrible> EriC^^: what i trying to do is to find a file with the command find
[16:36] <guardian__> only issue is with shutdown it seems
[16:36] <EriC^^> guardian__: it was already working before the modprobe addition?
[16:37] <guardian__> eric^^ while loading the OS it shoes "Failed to start load kernal modules"
[16:37] <EriC^^> terrible: yes, why's it not working?
[16:37] <guardian__> eric^^ IN the first place no then I followed this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/508029/ubuntu-14-04-stuck-on-shutdown
[16:37] <guardian__> then it started working again
[16:37] <guardian__> started wokring*
[16:37] <terrible> EriC^^: it doesnt show anything
[16:38] <ksan02> verizon
[16:38] <terrible> EriC^^: i run find /home/ -name nameofthefile but it doesnt show anything
[16:39] <EriC^^> guardian__: do you have usb 3.0? in the thread somebody mentions disabling it from bios fixed it
[16:39] <EriC^^> guardian__: Pre-OS USB 3.0 Configuration
[16:39] <terrible> EriC^^: the file begin with capital letter what is why i want know how to use the command find in case sensitive
[16:39] <nacc> terrible: you mean case insensitive
[16:40] <terrible> nacc: yes
[16:40] <nacc> terrible: -iname
[16:40] <EriC^^> guardian__: or USB 3.0 legacy mode
[16:40] <guardian__> @eric^^ I have one usb3.0 port, let me try to disbale it from bios, *** The firmware of this lap sucks! I dont have legacy boot
[16:40] <guardian__> this lap only have a uefi boot option
[16:41] <EriC^^> guardian__: ok, look for any usb 3.0 related options
[16:41] <guardian__> erci^^ I dont have a usb 3.0 option in bios
[16:42] <ente_> Hey, I am searching for tutorials on how to setup my openpgp smartcard (yubikey) to login into Ubuntu 16.04. I already found a package libpam-poldi (considered experimental). The tutortials I found were usually old (from around 2010). Does anyone know where or what to look for up to date tutorials?
[16:42] <terrible> nacc: it work that way but i have to put at the end of the file * like find /home -iname filename* without the * doesnt work why?
[16:43] <nacc> terrible: presumably 'filename' is not the actual filename then. pastebin `ls -ahl <path/to/file>` and the exact find command used.
[16:43] <Kakurady> After submitting a crash report on Ubuntu Gnome yakkity (release version), Launchpad didn't pop out, nor is there a message about the report being invalid or already reported. There's no console output from apport either. A file named /var/crash/_usr_bin_gcm-calibrate.1000.uploaded was generated, but that seems to be it. Is this supposed to happen?
[16:45] <bfiller11> bfiller, hey
[16:47] <EriC^^> guardian__: any "OS Optimized Defaults" ?
[16:48] <guardian__> eric^^ no, this lap had a pre installed litmus on it, I uninstalled it/. When I contacted acer support they are telling me to install win10
[16:49] <guardian__> I tried installing win10 , it works without any issues
[16:49] <guardian__> they also told me this will only support 64bit OS
[16:49] <EriC^^> aha
[16:49] <guardian__> Now I was able to install lubuntu
[16:50] <guardian__> but this bug is a major pblm as I cannot force shutdown always
[16:50] <terrible> nacc: another thing how can i find extension with find like .mp4 or .gif?
[16:51] <nacc> terrible: if you are not willing to pastebin the output asked for, it's hard to help
[16:51] <nacc> terrible: but for that case it'd be `find . -type f -name '*.mp4'` ?
[16:52] <terrible> nacc: ok wait a minute
[16:54] <EriC^^> guardian__: did you try acpi=noirq ?
[16:55] <bfiller11> bfiller, working pretty well
[16:58] <Popzi> how can I quickly lock everyone off my mysql server? ubuntu can't update it with people on it
[16:59] <compdoc> Popzi, stop the service
[16:59] <Popzi> compdoc: righto cheers
[17:00] <dellhem> Hey. I want to have my NAS listen to a port, and then forward this traffic to another port on localhost. What is it called that I'm looking for? It's not local port forwarding.
[17:00] <Popzi> compdoc: stopping the service and upgrading it still isn't cutting it >_>
[17:01] <compdoc> Popzi, what happens?
[17:01] <Popzi> compdoc: just hangs on setting up mysql-server
[17:01] <mozammel> how to get rid off from choppy video playback on ubuntu 16.10 unity ?
[17:01] <compdoc> Popzi, it usually asks if you want to keep the old conf files. are you able to see the output and respond?
[17:02] <Popzi> compdoc: nope, nothing, just hangs
[17:02] <Popzi> compdoc: service is dead, unless there's other services?
[17:02] <nastronaut> Hi all! I’m having trouble disabling dnsmasq that’s started by NetworkManager. Most guides I’ve found online recommend commenting out a line in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, but that’s not working for me in 16.04
[17:02] <compdoc> Popzi, theres a change when going to mysql 5.7. Your my.cnf file might not be loading
[17:03] <k1l_> Popzi: what is the errormessage?
[17:03] <Popzi> https://dpaste.de/EVb9 compdoc
[17:03] <Popzi> k1l_:  there isnt on
[17:03] <Popzi> e
[17:04] <Snowboarder> Good morning ;)
[17:04] <compdoc> Popzi, theres a change when going to mysql 5.7. Your my.cnf file might not be loading. if you modified it to increase buffers, etc
[17:05] <Popzi> compdoc: not modified, only to allow remote connection
[17:06] <compdoc> I was at least able to start the service manually, but it would die in the night, until I corrected loading the cnf file
[17:06] <Popzi> acidentally closed irc client, did you say anything?
[17:06] <compdoc> I was at least able to start the service manually, but it would die in the night, until I corrected loading the cnf file
[17:06] <Popzi> compdoc: I dont evn need to upgrade mysql, is there a way to except it?
[17:07] <Popzi> its putting a massive spanner in what im trying to do now with our website >_>
[17:11] <Popzi> fml.
[17:11] <Popzi> cant install shit to fix shit cos mysql is broken >_> gah!!
[17:12] <pauljw> Popzi, maybe try asking in #mysql
[17:12] <Popzi> pauljw: good idea
[17:12] <pauljw> :)
[17:13] <nacc> Popzi: or #ubuntu-server, with clear logs of what is happening when you try to start (or update) mysql
[17:28] <compdoc> max total shared memory (kbytes) = 18014398442373116   <- isnt this an impossible number on an 8G system?
[17:29] <erm3nda> shared, virtual memory
[17:29] <erm3nda> not real memory
[17:29] <erm3nda> not "currently used memory"
[17:31] <compdoc> its shmmax. is that even used now?
[17:36] <OnTheLake> Any recommendations for RDP client?
[17:36] <ricardobarbosams> rdesktop
[17:36] <ricardobarbosams> krdc
[17:36] <compdoc> OnTheLake, remmina
[17:36] <OnTheLake> I'm using Remmina now, just not happy with it
[17:37] <compdoc> works great for me
[17:37] <Simonious> I haven't built a linux kernal for 20 years..  I want to build ubuntu for beaglebone, since the one I downloaded and installed didn't support RS485 - can you point me where to start?
[17:37]  * Simonious thinks
[17:37] <Simonious> has it really been that long
[17:37] <Simonious> ?
[17:38] <Simonious> 1996 or 1997 was probably the last time I built a linux kernal
[17:38] <Simonious> guess so
[17:38] <troy1> Why do I have such hard time with external drive ext4 persmissions i want all users to have full access at all times.
[17:38] <compdoc> I rely on the work of others for my Rasp pi oses
[17:39] <rota> pas francais ici
[17:39] <TomyWork> !fr
[17:40] <erm3nda> remmina is a GUI over those other technologies. but works
[17:41] <tor-node> hey peeps
[17:42] <tor-node> hey what is the purpose of this group
[17:42] <dax> technical support for Ubuntu Linux
[17:42] <tor-node> awsome thanks
[17:43] <tor-node> can i encrypt my hdd without reinstalling ubuntu
[17:45] <lanc> adding to what @tor-node said: is there any reason to encrpyt anything more than the home folder?
[17:45] <nicomachus> tor-node: not a full encryption, no.
[17:45] <nicomachus> unless there's some new, sketchy method I haven't heard of.
[17:45] <noimnotninevolt> yes. to secure data that lies outside of the home folder.
[17:45] <tor-node> ok so i need to reinstall ubuntu
[17:46] <tor-node> how would i back up all my software
[17:46] <nicomachus> !backup | tor-node
[17:46] <tor-node> thanks ubottu will check it out
[17:46] <markus_e92> Hi, how can I create a polkit .pkla to allow mounting only of specific usb storge? there is a drive.vendor udisk variable, but I don't know how this work?
[17:47] <markus_e92> with polkit 0.105 there is no /etc/polkit-1/rules.d to add javascript rules
[17:48] <crabcakes> so i just rebooted my computer and out of nowhere I gpt a  "radeon 000:01:00.0 Invalid ROM contents., si_cp: Failed to load firmaware...
[17:48] <crabcakes> Fatal error during gpu init. and now my second screen wont work, hdmi audio is not working and graphics are all screwed up
[17:49] <Simonious> okay.. looks like I got the ubuntu kernal source: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) (well it's still downloading)
[17:54] <elmoustacho> Hi everybody
[17:55] <rodney77> hi, if I have any program set to full screen, the notifications I get from pidgin stop working. so for instance, if i'm in the terminal, and hit f11, new message notifications will be suppressed
[17:55] <rodney77> it doesn't matter if I switch to another program that isn't full screen. having anything full screen seems to trigger a do-not-disturb mode and i'm wondering how to turn this off. I"m on 14.04
[17:57] <elmoustacho> On Ubuntu 16.04, someone knows where is stored langage setting of a Unity user session ? If I delete all files in the home directory, all settings are reseted except langage settings.
[17:57] <guardian_> Eric^^ u thr/
[17:57] <guardian_> ?
[18:04] <sruli> i need some help understanding the LUKS masterkey, am i right to presume that you can unlock the volume with it without needing the passphrase? if yes then if someone runs "dmsetup table --showkeys volume_name" i'm buggered
[18:09] <graingert> !question
[18:09] <graingert> !patience
[18:10] <Tony_> Hi, anyone good with ssh?
[18:10] <des_consolado> anyone know what could be up with this? https://gist.github.com/thomasodot/7f43ffdd3962adaadc23696d1260c0af
[18:10] <des_consolado> Tony_: I'm okay yeah
[18:11] <des_consolado> Tony_: there is an actual #openssh channel though I think
[18:11] <Tony_> des_consolado: I have a question regarding ssh sessions. AFAIK, socket is defined as src-ip, src-port, dest-ip, dest-port, protocol
[18:12] <Tony_> So, how am I able to, say, connect two ssh sessions on the remote server from the same machine?
[18:12] <Tony_> I could run 'find' on one and 'ls' on the other at the same time.
[18:12] <Tony_> Since the source and destination ports are the same, why doesn't it get messed up?
[18:13] <des_consolado> Tony_: the source port won't be the same, only the destination
[18:13] <Tony_> the destination port is always 22 for ssh sessions is it not?
[18:13] <sundhar> a
[18:14] <des_consolado> Tony_: http://stackoverflow.com/a/3329672
[18:14] <des_consolado> yes but the client's source port will always be different
[18:16] <des_consolado> Tony_: ##networking is also a good channel for this kind of discussion. Not really #ubuntu tho :P
[18:16] <nicomachus> Tony_: it can be manually changed, IIRC
[18:17] <Tony_> des_consolado: the stackoverflow question doesn't answer my question as it involves 3 separate machines. The sockets will differ in source ip
[18:17] <des_consolado> nicomachus: that's just confusing - yes the server's listening port can be manually set to some other port but that's totally irrelevant to Tony_ 's question
[18:17] <des_consolado> Tony_: the connections will differ in source port still.
[18:17] <des_consolado> your first connection may have port 28892 your second connection may have port 28899 or something
[18:17] <Tony_> des_consolado: please elaborate. I think I'm close to understanding.
[18:17] <des_consolado> they both still connect to the server's listening port 22
[18:18] <sruli> is it possible to disable  a user from logging in to X (only allow console login not gui)? lubuntu
[18:19] <nacc> Tony_: honestly, des_consolado has said it 3 times now. The source port is different, ther's not really anything to elaborate on and this is probably offtopic for this channel (as des_consolado said)
[18:19] <Tony_> des_consolado: how would the server distinguish the first connection from the second one if they're both sending data to the same destination port?
[18:20] <wilbert> Tony_: because the CLIENT'S SOURCE PORT IS DIFFERENT
[18:20] <Tony_> nacc, this my last question
[18:20] <wilbert> the socket is identified by the tuple you described
[18:20] <nacc> Tony_: it's the same question repeatedly, and you're ignoring the answer (afaict)
[18:20] <jaith> I'm trying to fire up an Amazon EC2 instance running Ubuntu 16.04 -- I see four options and am wondering what instance type to choose. Pretty sure I need EBS but the only options on this page (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/) say "ebs-ssd" -- can anyone help me choose an instance type?
[18:20] <wilbert> they are different socket because the client's source port is different making the tuples distinct
[18:20] <Tony_> ohhhh
[18:21] <wilbert> *click goes the lightbulb*
[18:21] <Tony_> Ah now it makes sense. I thought the server identified each session via the port it's listening on.
[18:21] <JimmyNeutron> Is 16.04.2 final release still schedule for today?
[18:22] <nacc> JimmyNeutron: i believe it's delayed
[18:22] <pappppp> PART #redes2
[18:22] <JimmyNeutron> nacc, darn..ok
[18:22] <pappppp> PART
[18:22] <k1l_> JimmyNeutron: no. postponed to 9th february due to serious arm64 issues
[18:22] <Tony_> Ok, it all makes sense now thanks
[18:22] <JimmyNeutron> k1l_, Thanks!
[18:28] <crabcakes> any help would be greatly appreciated
[18:28] <crabcakes> so I just booted from a liveusb and the graphics are working fine
[18:28] <crabcakes> but when I boot from my install something goes wrong and the video driver seems to be messed up. can't use two screens, no hdmi audio video artifacts
[18:29] <crabcakes> both liveusb and my install are using the radeon driver.. what do I even start to do to diagnose this?
[18:38] <slugn> hello guys. i have a problem. i have a computer that is dual booted with edubuntu and windows. windows is fucked up with some virus making it impossible to use. is there any tool i can use on the ubuntu partition to try and save data from the windows partition before formating?
[18:39] <nacc> slugn: if you have a virus on your windows partition, how do you know any of your data is safe?
[18:39] <slugn> you mean not infected? i dont know that
[18:40] <nacc> slugn: right, so the best you can do (off the top of my head) is backup the partition containing windows, but then you shouldn't use that data, as it's compromised
[18:41] <slugn> agreed. i guess it would be ok to look at the pics on ubuntu though right?
[18:44] <slugn> so what would i need to access the windows peronal files from ubuntu?
[18:44] <pavlos> slugn, I think you can mount the win partition as RO and look at data
[18:45] <Southern_Gentlem> boot a live install calmav and let it scan your data in windows
[18:45] <Southern_Gentlem> clamav
[18:46] <Southern_Gentlem> or back up your windows data to external hd,  and use your linux install to scan that data
[18:46] <tomreyn> could just scan it directly. just install clamav and mount windows r/o
[18:47] <slugn> is clamav the best?
[18:47] <tomreyn> it's the most open source one
[18:48] <Southern_Gentlem> slugn, one i thought of immediately
[18:49] <slugn> ill try it out thanks guys
[18:51] <crabcakes> ok, so on boot I get a warning that radeon/pitcairn_pfp.bin is missing
[18:52] <crabcakes> there is no radeon folder in /lib/firmware, but there is in /lib/firmware/4.9.0-040900-generic/radeon/
[18:52] <ph88> how can i see the sizes of a directory in a path on a mtp device from the terminal?  dh -sh  doesn't work
[18:52] <thinky> hello
[18:52] <crabcakes> can I just link this folder into firmware? what should I do?
[18:53] <thinky> i installed unity 8 mir on my ubuntu 16.04 to see how it looks like with the command : sudo apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[18:53] <thinky> but it opens black screen only
[18:53] <thinky> did i apply wrong command?
[18:53] <pavlos> ph88, shouldn't that be, df -sh
[18:54] <pavlos> ph88, sorry, wrong answer
[18:56] <ph88> you got me thinking .. maybe it's du -sh  and not dh -sh
[18:57] <slugn> i dont get it. windows partition is not showing up in nautilus
[18:59] <zang> df -h
[18:59] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[18:59] <zang> showns partitons
[18:59] <zang> du -sh
[18:59] <zang> shows size of files
[18:59] <yellabs-r2> just had an update in wich firefox was also updated ( LTS 16.04 ) , one minute before website was okey,after update i get on the same site : SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE
[18:59] <yellabs-r2> that cant be right ..
[18:59] <yellabs-r2> any thoughts on this issue is welcome
[18:59] <zang>  did u mounted it?
[18:59] <zang> maybe u have to install some dependencies
[19:00] <slugn> not mounted it
[19:00] <slugn> cant see it to mount it
[19:00] <Southern_Gentlem> yellabs-r2, yes firefox pushed stronger ejection of some certs
[19:00] <yellabs-r2> hmm where would i control it ( set to lower value )
[19:00] <zang> u can see the device?
[19:00] <pavlos> ph88, after ubuntu 13.04, support for mtp devices is via gvfs
[19:01] <slugn> i can not see device
[19:01] <slugn> not with command either
[19:02] <slugn> i can only see linux partitions and devices
[19:03] <pavlos> slugn, can you pastebin the output of lsblk (there should be a win partition somewhere)
[19:03] <slugn> yes in a few min im restarting. thank you
[19:03] <zang> @yellabs maybe its related to godaddy certificates
[19:03] <yellabs-r2> i think something like that indeed
[19:04] <zang> try sudo mount /dev/sd? /mnt
[19:04] <yellabs-r2> probably becuase the site uses https , but has not really got a certificate , so should use http
[19:04] <crabcakes> could somebody please help me
[19:05] <zang> i can try
[19:05] <tomreyn> !ask | crabcakes
[19:05] <crabcakes> so upon rebooting my system I got the following messages:
[19:06] <crabcakes> radeon 000:01:00.0: invalid ROM contents
[19:06] <crabcakes> si_cp failed to load firmware "radeon/PITCAIRN_pfp.bin"
[19:06] <crabcakes> Fatal error during GPU init
[19:06] <crabcakes> I booted form a live cd, and there's nothing wrong with my graphics card
[19:07] <zang> did u update recently?
[19:07] <tomreyn> which system + version do you have installed then?
[19:07] <crabcakes> zang: no
[19:07] <crabcakes> ubuntu 16.04
[19:07] <crabcakes> everything has been working fine, this came out of nowhere
[19:08] <crabcakes> the radeon folder with the driver it says is missing is located in
[19:08] <tomreyn> "si_cp" sounds like you may be using the "radeon si" driver
[19:08] <pavlos> crabcakes, see if this helps ... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/260284
[19:10] <crabcakes>  /lib/firmware/4.9.0-040900-generic/
[19:10] <zang> if i werr in your shoes, i would just completely remove my gpu drivers and reinstall then
[19:10] <crabcakes> how do I do that? google just points me in circles
[19:10] <saju_m> i am trying to upgrade 'libpam-modules_1.1.8-1ubuntu2' to 'libpam-modules_1.1.8-1ubuntu2.2' in ubuntu 14.04 LTS server. But its not installing
[19:10] <saju_m> I have seen following lines in http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpam-modules
[19:10] <saju_m> ibpam-modules-bin (= 1.1.8-1ubuntu2) [not amd64, i386]
[19:10] <saju_m> and
[19:10] <crabcakes> I can't figure out how to reinstall the stock drivers in 16.04
[19:10] <saju_m> libpam-modules-bin (= 1.1.8-1ubuntu2.2) [amd64, i386]
[19:10] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[19:10] <zang> u can try apt-get remove YOUR DRIVER --purge
[19:10] <saju_m> Please help me to understand the meaning of these lines
[19:11] <zang> then reinstall it again
[19:12] <zang> u could also check the drivers that the live cd is using
[19:12] <crabcakes> zang: same drivers as the live cd
[19:12] <crabcakes> doing `sudo apt-get install radeon` rresults in:
[19:12] <crabcakes> E: Unable to locate package radeon
[19:13] <zang> try  sudo apt-cache search radeon
[19:13] <Bashing-om> !info libpam-modules-bin trusty
[19:13] <zang> to verify the correct package name
[19:14] <Bashing-om> saju_m: ^^ show in a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . See what the package manager relates .
[19:15] <FinalX> 63/w 20
[19:15] <FinalX> oops
[19:15] <crabcakes> zang: I got a bunch of output
[19:15] <zang> =)
[19:16] <crabcakes> http://pastebin.com/qahCrMUt
[19:16] <zang> one of those packages is the one you need
[19:16] <crabcakes> i think i recall it being amdgpu?
[19:16] <zang> fglrx
[19:16] <zang> maybe
[19:16] <crabcakes> no, I know for a fact that fglrx is no more for 16.04
[19:17] <zang> its deprecated?
[19:17] <zang> or just old?
[19:18] <zang> if it just old, give it try, u cant make your system more broked (actualy u can, but not doing this)
[19:18] <crabcakes> deprecated
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/#fglrx
[19:18] <crabcakes> pavlos: I'm going to try that as well
[19:20] <crabcakes> alright guys ill be back let's see if this worked
[19:23] <crabcakes_> yeah none of that worked :/
[19:23] <zang> =/
[19:27] <zang> i did a litle research
[19:27] <zang> it might be bug
[19:27] <Simonious> what happened here? W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 'linux_4.4.0-59.80.dsc' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[19:27] <Simonious> that was the last line after: sudo apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[19:28] <pavlos> crabcakes, see if this helps ... http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[19:28] <TheNH813> Try sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[19:29] <TheNH813> or the metapackagefor Linnux-source
[19:29] <Simonious> TheNH813: can't find linux-source-4.4.0-43-generic
[19:29] <TheNH813> I forget the name of that one
[19:29] <TheNH813> Hmmmmmm. onesecond let me go tomy pc
[19:30] <soee> how can i monitor cpu fan speed ?
[19:30] <TheNH813> soee: depends on hardware
[19:30] <jaith> what is the best/customary way to grant sudo privileges to a user, e.g., user "bart" ?
[19:30] <ShreQueanmo> when using ddrescue to rescue a luks partition, is it best to ddrescue from the /dev/mapper/<id> towards an image file?
[19:30] <TheNH813> soee: lm-sensors should help
[19:30] <Simonious> jaith: adduser bart sudo
[19:30] <jaith> does one add them to admin group? to sudo group? to sudoers file?
[19:31] <jaith> Simonious: and that grants them root-level access?
[19:31] <Simonious> it makes them a member of sudo
[19:31] <crabcakes_> so I really don't know what to do
[19:31] <jaith> Simonious: thx
[19:31] <Simonious> sure
[19:32] <jaith> Simonious: please know that I expect to *remove* the default user, in this case "ubuntu" so it's important that this user gain all necessary privileges to maintain the server...i'm a bit nervous
[19:32] <crabcakes_> nothing is working and I have no idea how to even start fixing this
[19:32] <TheNH813> Simonious: sudo apt-get install linux-aws-source-4.4.0
[19:32] <Simonious> jaith: Hmm, stay nervous, that's a good thing, obviously add privs before removing the other user
[19:32] <TheNH813> or linux-source-4.4.0
[19:33] <TheNH813> dending on the installed version
[19:33] <Simonious> jaith: then consider making the other user a non-login account rather than removing it just to be safe
[19:33] <Troy^> OK im having permission issues with external ext4 harddrive why is that? I want all users to have full access it's so ANNOYING. Why does ubuntu do this
[19:33] <TheNH813> you need to set global read write
[19:33] <jaith> Simonious: so you suggest leaving user "ubuntu" but not allowing them to login?
[19:33] <Simonious> jaith: sure, why not?
[19:33] <jaith> Simonious: I'm guessing that means editing the /etc/users file or something?
[19:33] <Troy^> TheNH813: how do i set global w/r?
[19:33] <crabcakes_> ok, so, why would the live cd be booting with normal graphics, but my install all the sudden not be able to find the radeon firmware?
[19:34] <Simonious> TheNH813: I did both..
[19:34] <TheNH813> Troy: right click properties and set read write on all
[19:35] <TheNH813> Simonious: missing a simlink maybe?
[19:35] <crabcakes_> :/
[19:35] <Simonious> TheNH813: no.. I mean both of those worked :P :)
[19:36] <TheNH813> Ah, ok. ;D
[19:36] <Troy^> TheNH813: this is headless. Also i'm like 90% sure your method would revert on disconnect/connect
[19:38] <zang> @crabcakes_ try to boot to an older kernel
[19:38] <TheNH813_Alt> Troy^: Headless?
[19:38] <TheNH813_Alt> Hm....
[19:38] <TheNH813_Alt> No the permissions are stored on the filesystem. It would persist after reconnect. But you'l need to use chmod if you're using a headless system
[19:38] <Troy^> Yea I did that TheNH813_Alt numerous times
[19:39] <TheNH813_Alt> Did you use -R to make it recursive?
[19:39] <TheNH813_Alt> I used to forget to do that occasionally.
[19:39] <Troy^> Ahh that is maybe what it is
[19:40] <Troy^> so sudo chmod -R 777 /media/external
[19:40] <TheNH813_Alt> That should set it and all subdirectories and files read write for everyone.
[19:40] <TheNH813_Alt> I forget which numbers to use, so I'd have to look that up.
[19:41] <Troy^> Yea 777 gives full permission. I think that maybe actually be unsafe in some situations. Although I'm not entirely worried
[19:41] <TheNH813_Alt> Troy^: You only need mode 666. OTherwise everything is executable too.
[19:41] <TheNH813_Alt> I just looked up the table of numbers for reference.
[19:42] <TheNH813_Alt> http://catcode.com/teachmod/numeric.html
[19:42] <Troy^> yea executbale is fine too. Only a home headless server so really no worries
[19:43] <TheNH813_Alt> Ah, ok. Just a media server or something then.
[19:44] <Troy^> Yea exactly TheNH813_Alt
[19:46] <Simonious> TheNH813_Alt: I'm gunning to make a kernal for a beaglebone..  Know anything about cross compiling?  In particular I want to get support for RS485, which isn't working with current kernals (I believe).
[19:46] <Simonious> though for a first go, I'd be happy just to do a cross compile and verify it on the target.
[19:46] <TheNH813_Alt> Simonious: RS-485 is the industrialized version of RS-232, right?
[19:46] <Simonious> something like that *shrugs*
[19:47] <dino82> My ulimit -l keeps resetting to defaults even though I have it set in limits.conf, any ideas?
[19:47] <TheNH813_Alt> Simonious: I'd say it's just be cross compiling then, as long as you get the architecure and lib versions right it should work.
[19:48] <TheNH813_Alt> Last I cross compiled it was because someone PM'd me asking for the beta version for Gimp for Windows.
[19:48] <Simonious> alright, how does one determine correct for architecure and lib versions?
[19:48] <TheNH813_Alt> And let me tell you, that was a pain.
[19:48] <TheNH813_Alt> Hm......
[19:48] <Simonious> I believe it
[19:49] <TheNH813_Alt> The kernel should have everything it needs, as long as you're building from a system with the same version of GCC.
[19:49] <TheNH813_Alt> Mixing GCC versions = bad as far as I'v personally experiences.
[19:50] <nplus> went to install a new package and I'm getting this error: " apt-utils : Depends: apt (= 1.3.1) but 1.3.2ubuntu0.1 is installed
[19:50] <Simonious> TheNH813_Alt: I should be okay, I'm on Xenial, trying to roll xenial for the beaglebone
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !info apt
[19:52] <homelessjerry> !info weechat
[19:52] <Bashing-om> !info apt xenial
[19:52] <TheNH813_Alt> Simonious: Well, sounds like it's be pretty straightforeward. Configure your kernel and get it built. Good luck then. :D
[19:53] <TheNH813_Alt> (I have food to take out of the oven, so G2G. Laters.
[19:53] <Bashing-om> nplus: ^^ Looks to be a PPA issue ??
[19:55] <nplus> Bashing-om: could be
[19:55] <nplus> I'll double check things
[19:56] <nplus> I was adding DataDog
[19:57] <Bashing-om> nplus: A palce to start the looking ' apt-cache policy apt-utils ' .
[19:57] <an-usah>  hello
[19:58] <an-usah> i have a weird issue in my linux; i have to copy things twice in oder for them to be properly copied
[19:58] <an-usah> i have these two scenarios:
[19:58] <an-usah> 1. i select a text, press ctrl+c and the text is not copied, i have to press ctrl+c twice then the item is effectively copied
[19:59] <an-usah> 2. i select a text, press ctrl+c the text is copied but in plain text, i press ctrl+c twice then the item is copied preserving format and other related information, like url in the case of a link
[20:00] <BluesKaj> an-usah, check my post in #kubuntu
[20:02] <Lice_> bonjoir ?
[20:03] <pavlos> !fr
[20:18] <MrHall> hello someone know a channel about security?
[20:18] <MrHall> or hacking
[20:18] <fabioizidio> Não sei
[20:18] <Bashing-om> !alis | MrHall
[20:24] <sathed> Has anyone here had any luck being able to RDP into your Xubuntu machine with xrdp? I'm running into a situation where I need to be able to use RDP. Normally, I would just use VNC, but that's not an option here.
[20:24] <Simonious> sathed: No, but if you get it figured out please do a write up and share it here and with me personally. :)
[20:26] <ioria> sathed, what's the problem ? you need usually a echo xfce4-session >~/.xsession
[20:27] <ioria> sathed, then you connect from your win machine
[20:28] <ioria> sathed, restart the service maybe
[20:28] <sathed> I'll give it a shot...
[20:29] <ioria> sathed, i use it with lubuntu,  (lxde), no issue
[20:30] <samtby> Samtby en force
[20:30] <samtby> Awesome
[20:30] <samtby> awesome
[20:31] <Simonious> how do I use them?
[20:31] <Simonious> and the hf and the g++
[20:31] <Simonious> ha
[20:31] <Simonious> brain damage
[20:33] <Simonious> I installed gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi, gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf, and g++-arm-linux-gnueabi but I'm having trouble making them work.  I've tried several programs and I get explosions like: http://pastebin.com/PfxQ6SB9
[20:33] <Simonious> these things compile fine with gcc or g++ as appropriate
[20:33] <Simonious> but obviously I'm doing something wrong for the cross compiles
[20:35] <Kingsy[m]> Having an issue installing Ubuntu minimal on my machine. The installation goes perfectly but on first boot it hangs at the screen saying /dev/sda clean files blocks...
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Graphics driver issue ? nVidia ?
[20:37] <ioria> Simonious, std with gcc ?
[20:37] <Kingsy[m]> Its been sitting there for about 30 mins now so it's crashed for sure. I have reinstalled 3 times. Same result.
[20:37] <ioria> Kingsy[m], open a console
[20:37] <Kingsy[m]> Yes it could be. I do have a new nvidia card in there.
[20:37] <ioria> Kingsy[m], ctrl+alt+f1
[20:37] <Simonious> ioria: I don't understand your question. :)
[20:38] <ioria> Simonious, c does not have std
[20:38] <ioria> !info  g++-arm-linux-gnueabi
[20:38] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: What release are you installing ? Be aware that I also have a new nVidia card and have no open source driver support for it in 14.04 .
[20:38] <Kingsy[m]> Ioria that does nothing. No terminal appears I guess it hasn't got that far.
[20:39] <ioria> Kingsy[m], yes, what release ?
[20:39] <Simonious> ioria: ok, no std.. how do I function without that?
[20:39] <Kingsy[m]> 16.10
[20:39] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  video card ?
[20:40] <ioria> Simonious, not sure, but you're compiling c++ ode with gcc
[20:40] <ioria> *code
[20:40] <Simonious> ioria: doh!
[20:40] <Kingsy[m]> Nvidia 730
[20:40] <cuddylier> Anyone know the best way to set dns servers on ubuntu 16.04? I tried all the stuff on Google and none of it worked.
[20:40] <Simonious> arm-linux-gnueabi-g++ modulus.cpp -o mod_arm
[20:40] <Simonious>  this works fine
[20:40] <ioria> ok
[20:40]  * Simonious high fives ioria
[20:40] <ioria> :þ
[20:40] <Simonious> thanks for the help with my vision
[20:41] <ioria> lol
[20:41] <Kingsy[m]> But it's Ubuntu minimal so I haven't installed anything
[20:41] <Kingsy[m]> Just on first boot
[20:41] <Kingsy[m]> So  I have never hit a terminal yet.
[20:42] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  i'd go with nomodeset
[20:42] <ioria> Kingsy[m], but wild guese
[20:42] <ioria> *guess
[20:42]  * Simonious grumbles
[20:42] <Kingsy[m]> Nomodeset?
[20:42] <Kingsy[m]> What is that?
[20:42] <k1l_> !nomodeset | Kingsy[m]
[20:42] <Simonious> so.. I put the binary on the target.. along with the binary NOT crosscompiled and still no go
[20:43] <ioria> Kingsy[m], that was stupid, you're in text mode
[20:43] <Simonious> the wrong binary gives: -bash: ./mod: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[20:43] <Simonious> which is no surprise
[20:43] <Simonious> the correct binary gives: -bash: ./mods: No such file or directory
[20:43] <k1l_> ioria: some nvidia cards have issues with ttys
[20:43] <Simonious> which makes no sense
[20:43] <Simonious> I can rename it..
[20:43] <Simonious> ls it
[20:43] <ioria> k1l_, i see
[20:43] <Simonious> but when I try to run it.. fail
[20:43] <ioria> Kingsy[m], woth a try, then
[20:43] <guest-2tf4GE> im at the heart of the enemy what should we do decentralize the vote.
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: ioria nomodeset is still worth a shot . see what results .
[20:44] <ioria> right
[20:44] <k1l_> yes, doestn harm to test once
[20:44] <Kingsy[m]> Ok 1 second.
[20:44] <ioria> Kingsy[m], press shift and then 'tab' or 'e'
[20:45] <ioria> Kingsy[m], wait... by default (idk why) mini sets itself with 'quiet splash' ...   remove it
[20:46] <Kingsy[m]> Naa I can't get a grub menu with either shift tab or e
[20:47] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  tab and e is the second step, first you need to get grub screen
[20:47] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  keep up with shift
[20:47] <Kingsy[m]> Oh. How do I remove quiet splash sorry haha missed that.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: EFI system ? then it is the escape key ( spammed ) that grub looks for .
[20:48] <thesinding> Hey
[20:48] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  first you need the grub screen
[20:48] <Kingsy[m]> Got.it
[20:48] <Kingsy[m]> 1 second
[20:49] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  you need to edit the 'vmlinux line'
[20:49] <Simonious> ahh, got it
[20:49] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  https://www.google.it/search?q=ubuntu+nomodeset&client=ubuntu&hs=j75&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixxJLkpPLRAhVDWhoKHRDUCJsQ_AUICSgC&biw=1309&bih=673#imgrc=zmdfwV1iRJGJVM:
[20:49] <Kingsy[m]> Yeah I see it... Splash quiet.
[20:49] <Simonious> needed: gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[20:50] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  remove it and add nomodeset
[20:50] <Simonious> I don't know the difference between the hf and non hf - anyone?
[20:50] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  then ctrl+x or f10
[20:51] <thesinding> I´ve encrypted some drive, but now when I try and hibernate the pc, the drives will not read correctly, I get an input output error.. Is it because of the swap ?.. The drives are opened by a keyfile.. At boot it goes passphrase -> main drive -> opens other drives with keyfile
[20:51] <Kingsy[m]> Booting
[20:51] <Kingsy[m]> Hopes and waits....
[20:51] <jaith> I want to make sure that ssh only accepts key-pair authentication. Default SSHD_config allows PAM. Should I disable any PAM-related settings? The warnings in sshd_conf look a little worrisome
[20:51] <Kingsy[m]> Just a black screen ....
[20:52] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  wait a bit then try to open a console
[20:52] <sathed> ioria: It works! I had to restart the service (and find a machine to test it on), but it works! Thanks!
[20:52] <Kingsy[m]> Hmm just a total black screen. No console will open with ctrl alt f1
[20:52] <ioria> sathed, good job
[20:53] <thxffo> how to enable passwordless sudo?
[20:54] <wedgie> thxffo: for a user, a group, or what?
[20:54] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  reboot and add   text 8in addition to nomodeset)
[20:54] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  reboot and add   text (in addition to nomodeset)
[20:54] <wedgie> thxffo: only certain commands, or all commands?
[20:54] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[20:54] <k1l_> ioria: text doesnt work with systemd
[20:54] <ioria> oh, yep
[20:54] <k1l_> ioria: multiuser.target or something similar is needed now
[20:54] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  ^ k1l_
[20:55] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Try as ' systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' .
[20:55] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  maybe systemd.unit=multi-user.target     but removing splash should have worked
[20:56] <Kingsy[m]> Ok 1 second
[20:58] <Kingsy[m]> I can't even get the grub menu up now. Pressing escape doesn't work anymore.
[20:58] <Kingsy[m]> It just exists the splash screen and goes to the files blocks output and hangs
[20:58] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: efi only has a 3 second window of opportunity .
[20:59] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[20:59] <Kingsy[m]> Ah sorrry yeah
[20:59] <Kingsy[m]> Ok I'll add that systemd string
[21:00] <ioria> Kingsy[m],   bur remove splash
[21:00] <iffi> Sometimes when my Ubuntu laptop goes to sleep, the screen freezes
[21:00] <iffi>               at the login. The mouse moves, but I can't type my password. Does
[21:00] <iffi>               anyone know of a solution?
[21:01] <Kingsy[m]> ioria and quiet right?
[21:01] <ioria> Kingsy[m],   yep
[21:02] <Kingsy[m]> Ok ctrl x
[21:02] <Kingsy[m]> Still just a black screen
[21:02] <Kingsy[m]> Oh crap I forgot about nomodeset
[21:02] <Kingsy[m]> Haha
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I have had better results by removing quiet splash and ALL after . then inserting the desired boot options .
[21:03] <ioria> Kingsy[m],   black screen is weird, you should have the boor sequence , at least
[21:03] <ioria> *boot
[21:03] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: ioria Time for md5sum verification ?
[21:04] <ioria> Bashing-om, maybe :þ
[21:04] <Kingsy[m]> Yeah...
[21:04] <ioria> Kingsy[m],   ^ Bashing-om
[21:04] <Kingsy[m]> Does it matter where I add the options? Just where I removed the quiet splash option?
[21:04] <dorkmafia> i'm having issues installing ubuntu 16.04 on my hp z820 workstation :( it just reboots
[21:05] <Kingsy[m]> Md5sum on the iso I used.?
[21:05] <Bashing-om> ioria: As you day .. does not make sense we do not at least see the boot messages .
[21:05] <ted_> witam piszcie coś po polsku
[21:05] <ioria> Bashing-om, yeah ...
[21:05] <Kingsy[m]> After $vt_handoff?
[21:06] <ioria> Kingsy[m],   nope, before
[21:06] <Kingsy[m]> Yeah got that.
[21:06] <noimnotninevolt> ted_: #ubuntu-pl
[21:07] <Kingsy[m]> Yeah just a blank screen.....
[21:07] <ioria> Kingsy[m],   in alternative to nomodeset you can try   nouveau.modeset=0
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I would remove it also . as there is no GUI for the $vt_handoff . But also need to know we have a firm foundation here that the install .iso is not corrupted .
[21:08] <Kingsy[m]> Does it matter that I am running it through a av receiver to the TV? I guess not as before I inserted this card I had Ubuntu running on here just fine
[21:09] <Kingsy> OK on a pc now
[21:10] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  from grub you can also choose recovery
[21:11] <Kingsy> ioria: 8a696da2b30bc335fabc1e4a0aac735d is th md5sum of the iso I used
[21:11] <sharon_so> sorry if this is off topic, i developed an app and i am looking for ways to test it, things that can go wrong from the OS, like sending it a sigterm (kill -9), shutting down the network interface and bringing it back on, so i'm interested to see if there is something i can re-use or at least get some ideas from
[21:11] <Kingsy> I copied it to the usb stick like this --> dd bs=4M if=/path/to/mini.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress && sync
[21:11] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  looks good
[21:12] <Kingsy[m]> Ok I am in recovery mode.
[21:12] <Kingsy[m]> Works just fine. I see the menu and all
[21:13] <wedgie> sharon_so: kill -9 isn't sigterm
[21:13] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  well, now you could remount rw the system  and edit /etc/default/grub
[21:13] <sharon_so> wedgie: sorry, ter,inating the app in different ways.
[21:13] <Kingsy[m]> Ok dropping into a shell
[21:14] <Kingsy[m]> Oh some errors have appeared behind the menu..
[21:14] <Kingsy[m]> Dependency failed for swap
[21:14] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  ohhh
[21:15] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  maybe it was hanging
[21:15] <funabashi> guys i have problem with php on my website. after i did an upgrade. now php on apache doesnt work..
[21:15] <ioria> Kingsy[m], bad partitioning ?
[21:15] <Kingsy[m]> Hmm I just used guided... Using the installer..
[21:15] <k1l_> Kingsy[m]: so it worked until you installed the nvidia card? did you install the nvidia driver?
[21:16] <Kingsy[m]> k1l_ this is a fresh installation so no not yet.
[21:16] <Kingsy[m]> Ioria I could reinstall?
[21:16] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  it's a laptop ?
[21:16] <Kingsy[m]> Htpc
[21:17] <Kingsy[m]> So no full pc
[21:17] <ioria> Kingsy[m],  no idea, sy
[21:18] <Kingsy[m]> Would you say edit grub or reinstall? Not really sure what I am editing in grub
[21:20] <Kingsy[m]> Ioria one thing... When I installed but selected the gnome desktop option it worked... But as soon as I installed the nvidia drivers it hung on boot... So I reinstalled withoit a gui
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Ioria has left the channel . Look as ^ . then perhaps purge the Nvidia driver, see what the hardware is and then match a driver ??
[21:23] <Kingsy[m]> Doesn't really explain why the system won't boot withoit the gui
[21:24] <Bray90820> What's the command to check the process of DD
[21:25] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: True, as I do not expect a proprietary driver to come into play until loading the GUI .
[21:25] <Kingsy[m]> Yeah
[21:25] <ZeZu> Bray90820, check the process?   like process ID  or you mean progress?
[21:25] <Bray90820> Yes I meant progress
[21:25] <Kingsy[m]> Reinstalling now.. but this seems pointless
[21:26] <mcphail> Bray90820: you send a "kill -USR1" to the process
[21:26] <ZeZu> Bray90820,  if it's already running you can't (easily) ,  but if you're writing to a file you can check file size vs expected output
[21:27] <mcphail> ZeZu: not true, I'm afraid. Read the man page
[21:27] <ZeZu> for dd ?
[21:27] <mcphail> ZeZu: yes
[21:27] <Bray90820> ZeZu: I was given a command a while back where I could check it if it was running by entering the command in a new terminal window
[21:28] <mcphail> ZeZu: "Sending a USR1 signal to a running 'dd' process makes it print I/O statistics to standard error and then resume copying."
[21:28] <ZeZu> Bray90820 you can try the kill command mcphail just said,  but I don't know how that works
[21:28] <ZeZu> mcphail, I don't have that on my man page,  usefull to know :)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: The instructions to do so are in the ' man dd ' result .
[21:29] <mcphail> ZeZu: I think there is an even newer version of "dd" which accepts a flag and prints progress as it goes. But I don't think it was present on the version from 16.04
[21:29] <ZeZu> yeah i know of two ways to do it when you execute the command
[21:30] <Kingsy[m]> Installing now.. trying withoit a swap
[21:31] <mcphail> ZeZu: actully, looks as if you run dd with "status=progress" as a flag it will show real time progress :)
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I am of the opinion that the system expects a swap ( until 17.04 ) and having a swap is cheap insurance .
[21:31] <ZeZu> mcphail, on newer dd yes there is status
[21:31] <ZeZu> or pipe through pv on older versions
[21:32] <ZeZu> USR1 is new to me
[21:32] <Kingsy[m]> Oh right.
[21:32] <Kingsy[m]> Well this is going to fail then..
[21:32] <Kingsy[m]> Hahab
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: take a look at the partioning ? ' sudo parted -l ' .
[21:33] <Bray90820> ZeZu: if you are wondering "sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)"  works
[21:33] <Kingsy[m]> Ok two mins
[21:33] <ZeZu> Bray90820,  no these guys know what they are talking about I had little doubt
[21:33] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing you gonna be online a while?
[21:36] <tarball> hello everyone, how can I bulk edit metadata of non-image files?
[21:42] <Kingsy[m]> Going to install gnome desktop again... See if that works... No proprietary driver
[21:46] <tripkin> I am having trouble with an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04. I am hoping someone can take a look at the post and help me. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/23913577/
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Yeah , I be here as much as I can . But I got an issue now on my system that I am investigating . ( now what would freeze top ? ) .
[21:47] <Kingsy[m]> Ah
[21:48] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: As I ponder and check I will also do you .
[21:48] <Kingsy[m]> Just finishing the installation now... Let's see if it boots
[21:52] <longerstaff13> Hello all, I would like to ask a question.
[21:52] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om ok that booted.... Wtf
[21:52] <ubuntu_newbie> hello all - I am trying to change a file extension recursively.... the only thing I found is this command, which only changes the file extension within the same directory
[21:53] <ubuntu_newbie> for f in *.yml; do mv -- "$f" "${f%.yml}.yaml"; done
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I would hazard - only as a guess - somewhere the graphic's driver got combubalated ?
[21:53] <longerstaff13> Why is my external monitor, that supports 1280x1024, keeping to only 1024x768?
[21:54] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: can either use globstar to match files recursively, or do some find -exec magick. Probably best to take this to #bash
[21:55] <ubuntu_newbie> hello thanks wedgie
[21:55] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om now the question is. How do I get the nvidia drivers on there... Last time I installed it I wrecked it
[21:55] <Kingsy[m]> I used the GUI to install it last time.
[21:57] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I have great faith in the ystem . let the sytem choose the driver it wants ; ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[21:59] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om even tho it crashed it last time?
[21:59] <Kingsy[m]> I have literally installed it exactly the same
[22:00] <kneeki> Anyone know if there is a recommended third-party startup application manager for Ubuntu? I'm running i3-gaps.
[22:00] <longerstaff13> Why is my external monitor, that supports 1280x1024, keeping to only 1024x768?
[22:02] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: What is the card ? We can check with nVidia and verify what driver(s) is recommended for linux .
[22:03] <Kingsy[m]> Its a nvidia geforce gt 730
[22:04] <Kingsy[m]> Gk208
[22:04] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: since you're too shy to ask in #bash: shopt -s globstar; for f in **/*.yml; do mv -- "$f" "${f%.yml}.yaml"; done
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Gimme a bit to bring a browser back on-line .
[22:05] <Kingsy[m]> Alright.
[22:05] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: test that by adding "echo" before mv before you run it on anything important
[22:06] <ubuntu_newbie> thank you so much wedgie!  I stepped away to get some snacks lol
[22:06] <ubuntu_newbie> wish I could do that command line but I think it has to be a script
[22:07] <homelessjerry> grabbing a snack - always a fatal mistake
[22:07] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: how do you mean?
[22:08] <ubuntu_newbie> wedgie: like typing [shopt -s globstar; for f in **/*.yml; do mv -- "$f" "${f%.yml}.yaml";] on the command line
[22:08] <tarball> hello everyone, how can I bulk edit metadata of non-image files?
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us . Anything from 361 to 378 should work .
[22:08] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om I see 340.17?
[22:08] <ubuntu_newbie> without the brackets of course :)
[22:09] <Bashing-om> LinAGKar: NO ! what you did was install nvidia-current ! .. no ..what we want is most likely 367 .
[22:09] <wedgie> tarball: I think you're going to need to be more detailed in what you're trying to do. That question seems very vague
[22:09] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om ok how do I install one specifically ?
[22:10] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: a script is just some commands in a text file. I'm not sure what you mean.
[22:10] <Kingsy[m]> Also should I remove nouveau?
[22:10] <tarball> wedgie, I'd like to remove metadata from files of various formats
[22:10] <wedgie> what kind of metadata?
[22:10] <ubuntu_newbie> wedgie: do I need a done; after the do mv-- command?
[22:10] <tarball> wedgie, just metadata
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Again I have faith in the system :)
[22:11] <Tahr-Poop> kneeki, xfce startup manager
[22:11] <Kingsy[m]> Haha om
[22:11] <Kingsy[m]> Oo
[22:11] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[22:11] <Kingsy[m]> Ffs
[22:11] <kneeki> Tahr-Poop: Thanks, I'll give that a shot. :)
[22:11] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: the done is part of the for loop syntax
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: The driver install will take care of nouveau .
[22:12] <Kingsy[m]> Test restarting first
[22:12] <Kingsy[m]> I have no faith...
[22:12] <Kingsy[m]> Ok it worked.. installing the drivers now
[22:12] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: if you want to make a script out of it just copy past it into a text file and put #!/bin/bash as the first line
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I have messed about with computers longer than I care to think about .. 'buntu is the best thing since sliced bread .
[22:13] <ubuntu_newbie> wedgie: again thank you so much!  I know I have to name it as <file>.sh and probably need to chmod+x to make it executable
[22:13] <ubuntu_newbie> although strange I tried to do chmod+x and I get a "chmod+x" command not found (ubuntu)
[22:14] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om can I see which driver its going to use before I install it?
[22:14] <wedgie> tarball: metadata can mean a few things. If you're talking about things like exif data on images then that is specific to the file type so you'll need a utility for each file type. If you're talking about things like modified time and so on then that can be done with ''touch'' or similar
[22:14] <Kingsy[m]> Also if it doesn't work and I purge nvidia* will it reinstate nouveau?
[22:14] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: doesn't need to be .sh (and some, including myself, would say it shouldn't be since it isn't a sh script, it is a bash script. And furthermore it is an executable so typically wouldn't have an extension at all)
[22:15] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: chmod +x   (needs the space
[22:15] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: but if you're runing it as a script be mindful of where you run it from. Don't want it to go changing files in a place other than you had in mind
[22:16] <tarball> wedgie, they are not image files, but mostly text. like odt, pdf, html..
[22:16] <tarball> and of course plain text, too
[22:16] <Bashing-om> ki
[22:16] <wedgie> tarball: so are you talking about filesystem metadata such as modified time and such?
[22:16] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om 367 it seems
[22:16] <ubuntu_newbie> wedgie: thank you for being very thorough - I think I could put the word "echo" before mv to test it out
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Sorry, I do not recall .. you can however see the list it will choose from ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[22:17] <tarball> wedgie, yes, and others, too
[22:17] <ubuntu_newbie> and  yes, i am going to try a test folder not the real deal
[22:17] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: always a wise step before running something potentially destructive ;)
[22:17] <Kingsy[m]> Building the kernel .Module now.
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Uh Huh .. 367 was the one I had in mind that the sytem would choose :)
[22:18] <Kingsy[m]> Heh
[22:18] <wedgie> tarball: then check out the touch(1) command
[22:18] <Kingsy[m]> How about rolling this back if it breaks the system?
[22:18] <wedgie> you can use it to diddle the various attributes of files
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: And yeah . when the proprietary driver is removed .. then the nouveau driver "should" be re-instated by the system .
[22:19] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: i'm still not sure you you can't just paste the command at the shell prompt, though. Why does it have to be in a script?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: No roll back .. but simple - when you know - to purge and RE-install a driver .
[22:20] <wedgie> *why you can't
[22:20] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om can I do that via the recovery console? Because iirc its read only...
[22:21] <ubuntu_newbie> sory got disconnected
[22:22] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: to repeat my last statement in case you missed it: i'm still not sure why you can't just paste the command at the shell prompt, though. Why does it have to be in a script?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: well. a couple of ways one can remount the file system from recovery . Me, I am terminal minded and I do ' mount -o remount,rw / ' ---- to mount r/w .
[22:23] <ubuntu_newbie> wedgie: yes I did try that
[22:23] <ubuntu_newbie> typing this into the command prompt:  shopt -s globstar; for f in **/*.yml; do mv -- "$f" "${f%.yml}.yaml"
[22:24] <wedgie> you missed the final ; done
[22:24] <ubuntu_newbie> but it just pops up a '>' in the next line, like its expecting some input
[22:24] <ubuntu_newbie> oh
[22:24] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om yeah that's broken now.. the screen is stuck at "stopping user manager for uid 112"
[22:24] <Kingsy[m]> Just under stopped nvidia persistence daemon
[22:25] <gartral> hey all, major problem, I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop and I've gotten to where it asked me if I want to erase disk or partition myself, I want to erase and use the encryption buuut the install now button isn't activating
[22:25] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Yuk . What can you now boot too ? Makes no sense that the system is choking on the 367 version driver .
[22:26] <ubuntu_newbie> wedgie: thanks so much, it worked!
[22:26] <Kingsy[m]> I can get into the recovery console I think 1 second
[22:26] <wedgie> ubuntu_newbie: :)
[22:26] <tarball> wedgie, I also have another question with altering metadata. can altered metadata be reverted to the original?
[22:27] <wedgie> tarball: uh, i think once you change it you won't be able to see what it was any more. Well, short of some serious forensics work.
[22:28] <Kingsy[m]> Yeah I can get into the console.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: ' mount -o remount,rw / (Note there is no space after the comma.)' ; and ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ' reboot and should come up on the nouveau driver .
[22:29] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[22:32] <tarball> wedgie, I see, thank you very much for your help and suggested tools
[22:32] <tarball> I also have another question..is there a way to convert ods files (spreadsheets) to odt or text?
[22:32] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om ok. That worked.. back in the system.
[22:33] <myke> export as csv
[22:33] <tarball> a command or gui tool?
[22:33] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om perhaps I should install a newer driver specifically?
[22:33] <Kingsy[m]> Directly from nvidia?
[22:33] <myke> you can actually run libreoffice in headless mode and do a conversion from the command line
[22:36] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: NO on a OEM install ,, we have a trusted PPA for the newer drivers . iffen ya want to try .
[22:37] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om what do you think? Worth a try?
[22:38] <Kingsy[m]> If so what's the ppa info?
[22:38] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Sure ,, can not hurt to try .. have a read : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[22:39] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om For GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs use `nvidia-304` (304.132
[22:40] <Kingsy[m]> Is this not the issue? It was using the wrong driver?
[22:42] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Nope again see: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us .
[22:44] <Guest62067> Hey guys. I was wondering about something a bit special... I haven't found in google the right answer and I'd love to some pointers on where to look those stuff
[22:46] <unkn0wn7> I want to run X window inside tmux. That's the top goal. I've used so far x11vnc to allow remote gui communication, but I need a client that can render inside a terminal window an X window. Anyone has pointers on where to look for, or docs on how I can implement in myself something like that?
[22:46] <ConnyOnny> If anybody's interested in reporting a bug: In Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, the package gespeaker is missing a dependency to python-dbus. I'm just not in the mood for creating a Launchpad account, researching which Ubuntu versions are affected etc.
[22:47] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. (How) can I install a Python 3.6?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Maybe we best make sure of what we are in fact working with . what reports ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? for the card .
[22:47] <BlackDalek> is there any way to remove a "Windows Live" account from "Online Accounts" in system stettings since the account-plugin-windows-live package no longer exists? Clicking the "Remove" button has no effect.
[22:47] <BlackDalek> settings*
[22:49] <nacc> Schwarzbaer: on 16.10/17.04, you can install python3.6, or you can build from source, or you could look for a PPA
[22:49] <BlackDalek> alternatively, does anyone know what account-plugin-windows-live package has been replaced with? I want to get rid of the blank line in Online Accounts where windows live used to live.
[22:50] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om sorry about that. Let.me see
[22:51] <nacc> BlackDalek: it wasn't replaced per the hcangelog, it was removed because it was uninstallable
[22:51] <nacc> BlackDalek: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/account-plugins/account-plugins_0.13+17.04.20161206-0ubuntu1/changelog (0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1)
[22:52] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om gk208 geforce gt 730
[22:52] <BlackDalek> nacc, that's fine... now I just need to find out how to remove the old entry for it in the online accounts in system settings.. the "Remove" button has no effect.
[22:52] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: K; we should be golden .. any driver from 361 to 378 .
[22:52] <nacc> BlackDalek: no idea, could be a bug of course :)
[22:52] <daniel123> Anyone know ho to get the spellchecker to work in Open Office. 'Tools' toolbar missing to writing aids.
[22:53] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om ok I'll add that ppa
[22:54] <bill_lx> where does apt store its list of installed packages
[22:54] <BlackDalek> nacc, the only work around I could find for this bug was to install the missing account-plugin package then remove the entry from online accounts... but since the package no longer exists, it makes it difficult to remove. Perhaps someone knows the location of a file I could edit to remove the entry?
[22:56] <Bashing-om> bill_lx: Depends on what you are seeking .. maybe " /var/lib/dpkg/info " ??
[22:57] <nacc> BlackDalek: checking, but i genuinely don't know. let me see what was in that package before (filewise)
[22:58] <bill_lx> problem is dpkg -l and other such commands do not show all installed packages - they are ther but not shown - i am using xchat but it doesn't show
[22:58] <bill_lx> would like to refresh the 'list' if possible
[22:59] <BlackDalek> nacc, don't stress over it. It's not important. I was just asking in case someone knew an easy way to fix it.
[22:59] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om ok installing 378
[22:59] <Bashing-om> bill_lx: Only shows what the package manager is aware of . If you installed from some alternate then dpkg will have nothing to track .
[22:59] <Kingsy[m]> Might as well go for the newest one I can have...
[22:59] <plgos> Hello
[23:00] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: in 16.10 .. might be a good thing to install the latest driver :)
[23:00] <bill_lx> apparently i have overwritten list - is prog that can search my install and make new list?
[23:01] <Kingsy[m]> Fingers crossed. But at least I can uninstall.. no more reinstalling Ubuntu
[23:01] <Kingsy[m]> Still confused why I couldn't get it to work without a gui
[23:01] <Bashing-om> bill_lx: Well, we can re-build some index files . which do you think are corrupted ?
[23:01] <Kingsy[m]> Rebootinf
[23:02] <Kingsy[m]> Nope same issue.
[23:03] <nacc> BlackDalek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23914038/ try the files listed there i guess?
[23:03] <Kingsy[m]> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/341920/fix-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-16-04-when-getting-the-stopping-user-manager-for-u
[23:03] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om you sure that's not the way to go?
[23:03] <bill_lx> don't know - is annoying to use program that doesn't show as installed - all packages that don't show were either original or installed thru supplied means
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: well .. in that case we start looking at log files . see what the system reports . Now ya getting over my skill level . but we can at least take a look . '' OR is this a user config issye . quick way to check . boot into the guest account .
[23:04] <Bashing-om> issye/issue*
[23:04] <Kingsy[m]> Um well I am back at the recovery console.
[23:04] <tomreyn> gartral:  are you still looking for help with this installer issue?
[23:04] <Kingsy[m]> I can't look at logs because I can't book into anything
[23:05] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Lemme restart a browser . gimme a bit .
[23:06] <Kingsy[m]> Ok cool
[23:07] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: We are not going to OEM .. but as a thought . have up updated the system ? ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[23:07] <Kingsy[m]> No I haven't actually.
[23:08] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om can I do this in the recovery console ?
[23:08] <Kingsy[m]> Or should I remove the driver first?
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Ho kay ! That mighr be .. let's do the updates .. and see then what results .
[23:09] <gartral> tomreyn: nope
[23:09] <tomreyn> gartral: how did you solve it then?
[23:09] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om updates via the recovery console nvidia still installed ok?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: No, let's try to update as is . ( but yeah the driver builds on the current installed/in-use kernel ) .
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Be ok from recovery IF ya remount r/w .
[23:10] <gartral> tomreyn: I hit back then continue and it lit up, I'm attributing it to a hardwaree error as I'm using an oooooold HDD
[23:10] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[23:11] <Kingsy[m]> Ok updated
[23:11] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om rebooting...
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Annnddd .. upgraded ? then reboot and let's see the effect :)
[23:12] <Kingsy[m]> Same issue as before.
[23:12] <tomreyn> gartral: oh, then be sure to check the disk for defects by installing smartmon tools after installation. and run this in a temrinal, then get help here interpreting its output: sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda
[23:12] <Kingsy[m]> But now it's hanging at the clean files blocks output like earlier
[23:14] <Kingsy[m]> I am uninstalling the drivers now.. get it back online.
[23:14] <gartral> tomreyn: I've already tested the drive, It's been overheated in it's life and is prone to what I call "HDDheimers" where it forgets it's supposed to be doing stuff.. it's not on a mission critical installation
[23:15] <Kingsy[m]> Ok its working again....
[23:15] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om hmm so do you have any thoughts?
[23:16] <remixos_helpme> hello could anyone help me with what i think is a simple problem
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: running fine now with 378 ? Then all I can surmise is the build on old software . ( why it it important on a new install to make sure it is then fully updated as the 1st priority )
[23:19] <Kingsy[m]> No I mean it's working again after I removed the driver
[23:21] <Kingsy[m]> What is prime-select?
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: th driver PPA still active ? .. ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' see now if the system installs the 378 version driver ; and now that the system is updated will come up all happy from a reboot .
[23:22] <remixos_helpme> what directory is "/" in ubuntu?
[23:22] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[23:22] <Industrial> Hi!
[23:23] <wedgie> remixos_helpme: it is the root. The very beginning of everything else
[23:23] <Kingsy[m]> Does anyone know what prime select is?
[23:24] <remixos_helpme> is it the directory that contains bin, boot, cdrom, home, etc?
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: We running hubrid graphics ?? mid ya I "think" prome-select' to be what was "nvidia-prime . Now we do need to KNOW pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - .
[23:25] <Industrial> I want to deploy Kubernetes on Ubuntu and I am being redirected to https://jujucharms.com/canonical-kubernetes from the kubernetes documentation. I have followed these steps: https://kubernetes.io/docs/getting-started-guides/ubuntu . I am getting the error message "Uneable to find: /home/tom/.local/share/juju/accounts.yaml".
[23:25] <Industrial> I don't want to deploy to any cloud. I want to run this locally for the first time to test it.
[23:25] <Kingsy[m]> Ok 1 second
[23:25] <Industrial> And maybe develop on it, before I run it in production
[23:26] <wedgie> remixos_helpme: yes. It contains everything
[23:26] <barnito> YAAAAY!!!
[23:28] <remixos_helpme> @wedgie i'm trying to launch remix os from grub, but it says i don't have a file called kernel in the /remix folder but i do so i was wondering if i had the file in the wrong place
[23:28] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om https://hastebin.com/unapetesop.pl
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: look'n .
[23:29] <wedgie> remixos_helpme: uh, no idea. Consider asking in #remixos
[23:29] <bigstu80> Hi all, I'm trying to set up ubuntu server headless on some old hardware. No onboard video and when I pull the GPU it's getting stuck during startup. Unfortunately it doesn't get far enough for SSH to work - any thoughts?
[23:30] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om the reason I mentioned prime select is its mentioned in additional drivers in software and updates in the gui
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: Nope single card . No idea now of what 'prime-select' is doing on the system . what now shows ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' .
[23:31] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om oh
[23:31] <Kingsy[m]> This thing in software updates is to do with the CPU. Intel micro codrle
[23:32] <ilhami> what the beep guys?
[23:32] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: uppdateing the CPU micro-code is a good thing to do .
[23:33] <Industrial> How do I undo `sudo lxd init` ?
[23:34] <Industrial> I picked Auto for IPV6 and I should have said None
[23:34] <Industrial> lxc finger keeps failing. I don't know why :(
[23:34] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om nvidia prime is in that list.
[23:34] <Industrial> my `conjure-up` install of Kubernetes is failing because `lxc-finger` returns an error.
[23:36] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: pastebin the oitput . I did not expect to see ' nvidia-prome
[23:36] <Bashing-om> prime' *
[23:36] <Kingsy[m]> Ok
[23:38] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om https://hastebin.com/masotapexu.rb
[23:40] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om this is it... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1559576
[23:44] <Kingsy[m]> Looks like a bug with gnome....
[23:44] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: I do not understand here all I do not know " (standard input)-Kernel driver in use: nouveau " BUT -> "ii  nvidia-378" can not have both in use at the same time else there is a driver conflict .
[23:44] <Kingsy[m]> Bashing-om isn't that because I had installed the nvidia driver but not restarted tet?
[23:53] <daniel123> Anyone know ho to get the spellchecker to work in Open Office. 'Tools' toolbar missing to writing aids.
[23:57] <Industrial> Hi. If I run `sudo usermod -A -G lxd tom` then that works so I assume my user is in that group. When I run `groups` it is not in there.
[23:57] <Industrial> How do I get my user in the lxd group?
[23:57] <Industrial> I'm getting permission errors on running lxc commands without sudo
[23:58] <k1l_> daniel123: install the l10n package for your language for libreoffice?
[23:58] <BlackDalek> I am trying to remove the windows live line from the Online Accounts in system settings... The "Remove" button has no effect. I found this file: /usr/share/accounts/services/windows-live-mail.service ... is it safe to delete this file?
[23:58] <nacc> Industrial: logout and log back in
[23:58] <vittorio> programmi trasformatori uscita
[23:59] <Bashing-om> Kingsy[m]: ^^ took a bit to read the bug report . Maybe applicable in your case also ( this though is optimus ) . ^^ We can reboot and get a new reports and see if there are driver conflicts .
[23:59] <BlackDalek> nacc, btw, none of the files listed in your pastebin post were on my system. ;)
[23:59] <nacc> BlackDalek: well, that makes sense if the package is no longer available -- i assume it was an upgrade from 14.04 to now?