[21:48] chrisccoulson: ping [21:49] hi brson [21:50] chrisccoulson: hey! i'm glad you are around [21:51] chrisccoulson: i work on the rust team, and try to help firefox packagers prepare for the rust transition [21:51] i only realized yesterday that i've never talked to you directly [21:51] and my information about how ubuntu packagis fx is wrong [21:51] for context yesterday mozilla committed a patch to require rust https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1284816 [21:51] oh, heh, we've just been discussing rust internally [21:52] chrisccoulson: how is it going? [21:53] Basically, the situation today is that the development release of ubuntu has rust 1.14 from debian. The foundations team are going to backport that to other ubuntu releases [21:55] ok. you should know that if 1.14 can build firefox today, it will not be for long [21:55] firefox will likely keep rust upgraded, and that is tough for distros [21:55] Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that [21:55] here's my summary of debian's situation from nov https://gist.github.com/brson/7f626515bfe135813ecc6b9a0c3f0273 [21:56] afaik because of their policy issues there isn't a clear path forward yet, some policy will need an exception [21:56] chrisccoulson: how long do you need to support firefox in which current releases? [21:57] ubuntu uses firefox esr or stable releases? [21:58] we follow the normal releases [21:58] ok [21:58] the support is 5 years for ubuntu LTS releases. The current releases are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [22:03] chrisccoulson: since there are currently 5 lts releases does that mean that, at the first firefox release that requires rust (possibly april), you will be on the hook for 5 backports of Rust? [22:03] chrisccoulson: I'm going to send you an email so you have my contact info. Is there anything you need from me right now, or that I can pass along? [22:06] There's currently 4 supported releases, although one of these becomes EOL in April. But there's also a non-LTS release in April [22:07] I don't think there's anything I need right now (it's quite late anyway, and I'm about to go and grab some beer) :) [22:22] brson, thanks for the email