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BlackDaleknacc upgrade was from 14.04 to 15.04 to 15.10 to 16.04 ...and the "bug" has been in the last few upgrade - I just never bothered to do anything about it until now.00:01
Kingsy[m]Bashing-om going to try unity.. see if the bug is with gnome.00:01
Bashing-omKingsy[m]: - as this is a server // maybe ya like xfce the better for a GUI ?00:02
naccBlackDalek: ah ok ...00:02
naccBlackDalek: i really don't know, sorry00:02
Kingsy[m]I am not sure see. I want something super easy to navigate with a little touchpad and keyboard.00:03
Kingsy[m]Gnome seemed like a good choice. But maybe not.00:03
Kingsy[m]Not sure about xfce why do you suggest that? Any reason?00:03
BlackDalekIs it safe to delete  /usr/share/accounts/services/windows-live-mail.service from my system since the windows live plugin no longer exists?00:03
naccBlackDalek: taht comes from evolution-data-server-online-accounts00:04
RemixOShelpis ext4 the default file system for ubuntu?00:04
naccBlackDalek: afaict, unrelated to the account-plugin stuff00:04
k1l_RemixOShelp: yes00:04
BlackDaleknacc, oh ok.00:04
RemixOShelphmm ok00:04
BlackDalekI'll leave it then00:04
xanguaKingsy[m]: gnome has nice touch gestures, but xfce is usable, unity has nice keyboard shortcuts00:05
RemixOShelpcan i ask anything here, like grub related questions too00:07
BaggaTeaHi all. is there a way to get info on an unattended-upgrade?00:07
BaggaTealike, how much effing longer it's going to take00:08
Bashing-omKingsy[m]: xfce is light and extremely easy to configure if ya handy with editing files . // on another note not to rub salt in a wound -> I run a nVidia710 card on gnome3 on release 17.04 that is flawless with nouveau as the driver .00:08
IndustrialWhere do I go for help with Juju and Conjure Up ?00:08
naccIndustrial: #ubuntu-server00:08
Kingsy[m]Yeah I mean nouveau would be ok I guess...00:09
foul_owlWhat are the keyboard shortcuts to move forward/backward by word with bash + xterm? It's supposed to be alt+f/b but that doesn't work with xterm. Thanks!00:09
Bashing-omRemixOShelp: So long as it is 'buntu related you may ask ( but my smart bucket may be be big enough ) .00:09
RemixOShelp<RemixOShelp> I'm trying to launch Remix OS from GRUB, but when I attempt to I get three errors: [15:50] <RemixOShelp> "no such device: /remix/system.img [15:51] <RemixOShelp> file /remix/kernel not found" [15:51] <RemixOShelp> you need to load the kernel first [15:51] <RemixOShelp> but i have those files in the /remix folder [15:52] <RemixOShelp> and this is what i have added in the 40_custom file [15:52] <RemixOShelp> menuentr00:10
RemixOShelpmenuentry 'Remix OS' --class android-x86 {         insmod part_gpt         search --file --no-floppy --set=root /remix/system.img         linux /remix/kernel root=/dev/ram0 androidboot.hardware=remix_x86_64 androidboot.selinux=permissive CMDLINE         initrd /remix/initrd.img }'00:11
hggdhRemixOShelp: please use pastenbin. It is diffiult to read what you posted00:11
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naccRemixOShelp: but i'm guessing you actually want the remix support channel, not ubuntu...00:13
RemixOShelpim hoping its a simpler case of me not understanding syntax00:14
RemixOShelpand putting the files in the wrong folder00:14
RemixOShelpsec im putting everything in a pastebin00:14
naccRemixOShelp: seems like asking #remixos is still more appropriate00:14
RemixOShelpi tried #remixos and #grub so far00:15
RemixOShelphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23914608/00:16
RemixOShelpwell heres to hoping bashing's smart bucket is big enough00:17
Bashing-omRemixOShelp: Well, does the kernel exist where it should .? Mount the install and ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '  and check the /boot partition ' ls -al /boot/ ' .00:22
RemixOShelpi think i have it in the right folder, i have the kernel in /remix00:22
RemixOShelphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23914671/00:24
RemixOShelpthats my ls -al /boot/00:24
Bashing-omRemixOShelp: More I do not know than what I do know . but makes sense to me to put the kernel ya want to boot in the standard place, no ?00:26
k1l_RemixOShelp: i dont see how this a ubuntu issue? better ask the remix os specialists about their stuff.00:26
RemixOShelpi guess ill wait for an answer there then00:27
k1l_RemixOShelp: if they dont answer in their support channels, then try their forums or where they do offer support. or you can ask generic questions in ##linux00:27
RemixOShelpk thanks00:27
blockydoes anyone have an idea why my logitech K750 keyboard is generating events like XF86Back when I press the letter 'd'00:29
Kingsy[m]Man o man unity comes with a lot of stuff00:31
Kingsy[m]This can't all be necessary00:32
Bashing-omKingsy[m]: Yepper .. remember ---- I did say xfce :)00:32
Kingsy[m]Bashing-om xfce makes no sense for an htpc the menu is all wrong for it... I wont have a mouse really... Just a crappy touchpad00:33
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Bashing-omKingsy[m]: K . we use what works the best .. and unity is the heavy weight DE .00:33
Kingsy[m]Yeah.. probably not ideal either.00:34
Kingsy[m]Gnome fits hesf00:34
Kingsy[m]Best00:34
Kingsy[m]But it's broke so it seems unless I stick with nouveau00:34
K4B00Mhey00:34
K4B00MAny software developers in here, specifically for C++ ?00:34
K4B00MI have some questions00:34
bazhang##c++ K4B00M00:35
UserUSDoes anyone know how to enable pipelight to use an integrated context menu in a virtual lab. It is web based.00:35
K4B00MIt kept saying that my messages were not sending to the ##C++00:35
K4B00MI dont know why00:35
K4B00MI will retry00:35
K4B00Msorry00:35
bazhangpipelight?00:35
bazhangwhere did you get pipelight from00:35
UserUSadded a repository and apt-get00:36
bazhang!info pipelight00:36
ubottuPackage pipelight does not exist in yakkety00:36
naccUserUS: then contact the repository's owner00:36
Bashing-omKingsy[m]: We still may have a driver conflict ?? . Is the proprietary driver installed now ? If so what returns ' sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* ' ?00:36
bazhangthats not an ubuntu repo00:36
UserUSI have 16.04, and I checked the forum, no one has the same question00:36
Kingsy[m]Going to install it now.. 2 mins00:36
naccUserUS: no, you have 16.04 + some repository it sounds like.00:36
naccUserUS: so you need to contact the owner of "some repository", in this case, for support00:37
UserUSnacc: its from the developer00:37
naccUserUS: ... so contact the developer. Not this channel's responsibility.00:37
bazhangUserUS, so contact them00:37
UserUSnacc: Didn't say it was, just asked if anyone here knew.00:37
bazhangUserUS, it's not an ubuntu issue00:38
UserUSit's silverlight 5.1 in ubuntu00:38
UserUSregardless of where it came from00:38
bazhang!info silverlight00:38
ubottuPackage silverlight does not exist in yakkety00:38
tonyt!info flash00:38
ubottuPackage flash does not exist in yakkety00:38
UserUSI don't have yakkety00:38
bazhangUserUS, the point is, it's not something ubuntu supports, so ask them for support00:39
UserUSI have 16.0400:39
UserUSIt is, because it works00:39
naccUserUS: this channel is for supporting Ubuntu and packages that come from Ubuntu. Whatever it is that you installed is not from Ubuntu.00:39
naccUserUS: or you're not telling us the correct name for the package if it does.00:39
siva_machina!info flashplugin-installer00:40
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 24.0.0.194ubuntu0.16.10.1 (yakkety), package size 6 kB, installed size 58 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)00:40
UserUSnacc: https://launchpad.net/pipelight00:40
james__exit00:41
naccUserUS: yes, note how that's *not* ubuntu? it's either a PPA or wine-staging being used?00:41
siva_machina@tonyt00:41
UserUSnacc: it's a ppa, and I'm not asking ubuntu, im asking ubuntu users00:41
UserUSmaybe someone else has it00:41
nacc!ppa | UserUS00:41
ubottuUserUS: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge00:41
naccUserUS: PPAs are not supported...00:42
naccUserUS: as we've been saying ... it's not part of Ubuntu. So it's not supported. So it's offtopic for this channel.00:42
naccUserUS: you can contact the developers from that page, or use the LP Questions or any number of other options, I'd think.00:43
siva_machina#ubuntu-offtopic00:43
foul_owlWhat are the keyboard shortcuts to move forward/backward by word with bash + xterm? It's supposed to be alt+f/b but that doesn't work with xterm. Thanks!00:44
Kingsy[m]Bashing-om works perfect. So it's a bug in Ubuntu gnome.00:45
UserUSnacc: you need some tea00:45
Bashing-omKingsy[m]: Well, that is good to know in lots of respects . Consider joining the bug report and adding info to help get it fixed ( above my skill level ) .00:49
Kingsy[m]Yeah will do00:49
SITMhello00:52
SITMthe load on my server is showing ~ 3 but there is hardly any CPU activity.  So would disk IO contribute to that load?00:53
naccSITM: yes, uninterruptible sleep (disk wait often) is attributed as load00:53
SITMwhat is a good command line tool to see disk load?  iotop?00:54
SITMhmmm.. maybe I want atop00:55
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SITMall of the disks show ~ 1% util ... besides disk IO and CPU, what else does load reflect?00:56
jon__do any of you have an xps15/5510 with ubuntu on it?01:10
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naccSITM: do you have any zombie processes?01:10
AlexPortableanyone can help me getting netflix to wrok?01:13
wedgieAlexPortable: there are supposed to be plugins for chrome or firefox. Have you tried those?01:14
AlexPortablewhich plugins?01:14
katistoAlexPortable netflix works on ubuntu for me01:14
AlexPortablefor me not01:14
AlexPortablewhat should i use?01:14
katistoAlexPortable maybe you need icetea plugin?01:14
ZeZuuhm,  what does the netflix site say?01:15
cfhowlettAlexPortable: there are supposed to be plugins for chrome or firefox. Have you tried those?01:15
ZeZuthat you need flash or silverlight?01:15
AlexPortablemake sure you are using an offical version of firefox01:15
katistoI don't have flash installed and netflix works in chrome01:15
ZeZuI think it uses silverlight01:15
ZeZuI forgot it's been a while since i've used it01:16
ZeZubut I think there was an HTML5 version they pushed later01:16
AlexPortablewell how do i make sure im using an offical version of firefox?01:17
dramanetflix is supposed to work out of the box on this version of chrome https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/01:19
siva_machinayou do not need silverlight on Netflix. Either use Chrome or Firefox01:19
AlexPortablei'm using firefox01:19
AlexPortablebut what special trick do i have to do01:19
siva_machinaFirefox you willl need to enable the drm and use a user agent switcher to make it look like you are useing Chrome01:19
AlexPortableyes01:20
AlexPortablei did01:20
siva_machinaNetflix has not updated there site to allow the use of the html5 on firefox even with the drm01:20
AlexPortableoh01:21
AlexPortableit worked before somehow01:21
COSL04XAlexPortable: you can use a agent switcher to look like Chrome on Mac and it will work01:22
siva_machinahttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher-firefox/?src=ss01:23
siva_machinaI suggest that01:23
COSL04Xthanks siva_machina01:23
siva_machinaMozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/56.0.2924.87 Safari/537.3601:23
siva_machinathen modify the chrome for Linux to use that string01:23
jon__how significant are the changes between Ubuntu 14 and 16?01:24
AlexPortablechrome seems to work without changing user agent01:24
siva_machinaThen Netflix should work01:24
COSL04Xyes chrome on its own will also work01:24
AlexPortablewhy not firefox?01:24
siva_machinaBecause Netflix has not updated there site to use Firefoxs user agent string01:24
COSL04Xi don't remember exactly why but it has to do with the browser, env variables and sandboxing01:24
siva_machinaon Linux01:24
cfhowlettjon read the release notes for those details01:24
siva_machinaeven though they have the nesscery drm now01:24
jon__cfhowlett, I did01:25
cfhowlettjon then you have the basic information and you can decide how "significant" those are01:25
jon__the naming scheme is a bit confusing01:26
jon__is 16.10 just a minor patch from 16.04? ie. along the same release path?01:26
cfhowlettjon__, please read /msg ubottu names          for insight01:26
wedgiejon__: the version numbers are just datestamps. No real bearing on anything else01:27
jon__what is the LTS then? is it 16.x? 16.04? 16.10?01:27
COSL04XLTS is Long Term Support01:27
COSL04X16.0401:27
jon__right, but what version is that covering?01:27
jon__ok01:27
jon__I just got a new laptop with 14.04 on it and am trying to figure out if going to 16.04 is worth it or how much of a PITA it will be01:28
cfhowlettjon_   14.04 is supported for 5 years.  sudo do-release-upgrade         will bring it to 16.04.01:28
COSL04XYou will find that the xx.04 are going to be LTS if they stick with their release structure01:29
wedgiejon__: if its new then you don't have much to lose. Worst case is a clean reinstall01:29
jon__right, the question is will things work01:29
jon__its frustrating that the machine came with 14, 16.04 isnt that new01:29
wedgie*shrug* Easy to fix01:29
wedgieat least it didn't come with windows :P01:29
jon__just doing an apt-get update broke wireless connectivity even within 14.0401:30
cfhowlettjon__, so don't upgrade until necessary?01:30
COSL04XIm still runing 16.04 on this System76 Gazelle for 4 months, get a feel for how the average person will buy and use it, will put something else on it later01:30
naccCOSL04X: to be clear, every other xx.04 is LTS (e.g., 17.04 is not)01:31
jon__do any of you have an XPS15/5510?01:31
jon__dell's ubuntu support seems to leave a lot to be desired01:32
cfhowlettjon__, look this is easy.  download 16.04.  make ubuntu USB.  plug in USB.  reboot laptop.  select USB as boot media.  Proceed to testing ...01:32
cfhowlettand for DELL specific information, use the dell linux suppor fourms01:33
jon__right, it seems like most of the dell special repo drivers have gotten merged upstream01:34
jon__if I want to go to 16.04 -- is the update mechanism decent? or should I just wipe it out and reformat01:34
cfhowletthttp://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f01:34
wedgiejon__: i've always had good luck with the update mechanism. Never had one crap out on me yet01:35
jon__and i would imagine you can go direct LTS -> LTS right?01:35
jon__ie. no need to go 14 -> 15 -> 1601:35
cfhowlettyes indeed01:35
keith_Hello01:37
cfhowlettjon__, I used to chase each release and update immediately.  Soon learned that the saner option was to install LTS only and upgrade after the .1 release.  YMMV01:40
wedgieyeah, i find that the LTS's are where it is at as well. Especially now that non-LTS support is down to 9 months (couldn't believe they did that)01:41
jon__wedgie, 9 months seems nuts01:42
jon__fedora is fast but reasonable01:42
bazhangjon__, lets stay on topic here please01:43
jon__the biggest issue that worries me is this stupid dock support01:43
cfhowlettjon__, that is something the DELL team needs to hear.  nothing to done from the ubuntu side until they perfect the drivers01:43
naccjon__: which dock is that?01:49
jon__nacc, this one, its a usb-c dock http://www.dell.com/support/Article/us/en/4/SLN30110501:50
naccjon__: is it a displaylink one?01:51
naccjon__: if it is, they're a pain and not worth it (IMO) :)01:52
jon__not sure what a dispalylink dock is01:52
cfhowlettjon_ http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/p/19678284/20974723#2097472301:52
roothi all01:53
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IndustrialI have lots of PPA's that are not working or incorrect. How do I remove them?01:53
jon__cfhowlett, I guses I should get everything working in 14.04 at least01:55
jon__image it, then try 16.0401:55
cfhowlettsounds like a plan01:55
Bashing-om!ppa-purge | Industrial01:55
ubottuIndustrial: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html01:55
jon__in terms of charging over usb-c is that handled at the bios level..?01:59
jon__ie. if that works with windows, is the OS relevant?02:00
naccjon__: charging over usb-c is probably at the bios level02:06
jon__usb-c seems like a very confusing standard02:07
bazhang!ot | jon__02:07
ubottujon__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:07
bazhangjon__, chatter elsewhere Please02:07
njcxHi02:12
AlexPortablewhy would anyone use ubuntu-core over debian?02:14
AlexPortableubuntu core / lubuntu core02:15
AlexPortablei'm using lxde02:15
njcxbecause apt02:15
AlexPortableuh debian has apt too02:15
njcxmaybe it is easy02:15
Bashing-omAlexPortable: One take, because a core intall is light and very fast ! .. and only installs what apps you want . Totally under your control .02:17
AlexPortableso is debian (net install)02:18
AlexPortablejust wondering which i should use02:18
siva_machinaI would think you would use ubuntu-core along side apt02:18
Bashing-omAlexPortable: That is a polling question and best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic .02:19
juan_hello need to connect to a chanel that speek spanish02:23
cfhowlett!es | juan_02:23
ubottujuan_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.02:23
cute_korean_girlHey I am just trying something out with the 4.10 rc6 kernel to test this thing out (So, I'm not using it expecting a stable kernel, I have a specific reason for using a beta kernel, just to get that out of the way) and I figured I'd try out the debs from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10-rc6/ and see how that works before compiling it myself if I need to. I'm actually on mint 18.1, but I'm asking here02:24
cute_korean_girlbecause they're the ubuntu debs for the kernel (and lets be honest, at that level there's not that much of a difference.) And I guess my question is, does anyone know if the nvidia drivers (not nouveau, the actual nvidia drivers) just straight up don't work on 4.10 yet? Or if it's a failure on my part that I cant get them to work?02:24
cfhowlettcute_korean_girl, you have to ask mint.  they have their own support channelsl02:25
cfhowlett!mint02:25
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:25
cute_korean_girlFair enough, like I said I was asking here cuz I was using the ubuntu kernel debs and that's where this issue popped up, so I thought they might just send me here. But yeah I'll try there, thanks02:25
juan_ok how do i get my pc to reconace my dvr im using ubuntu 16.04 ltd02:26
Bashing-omjuan_: Graphic's drivers ? Intel amd AMD (ATI) come in the kernel, nothing else you need to do .02:31
dm1530lanc02:39
darkhackhow to use snort02:41
darkhackhello bro02:41
darkhackanybody in here02:43
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AlexPortableCan I also do a bare minimum install while still keeping the full iso?02:45
Bashing-omAlexPortable: Sure; After all the .iso is only a file .02:46
AlexPortablebecause right now i have the idea it's pulling everything from the internet02:46
rafaelhi02:47
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Bashing-omAlexPortable: That is a fact .. all it needs it pulls in via the 'net . But the install medium is not touched .02:48
Guest69874oi02:48
AlexPortableis this also when using the full iso and installing bare minimum?02:48
Bashing-omAlexPortable: I do not know that one can even do that - the "full iso" is a desktop install with all the bells and whistles .02:49
AlexPortableoh okay02:50
darkhackhey all, what the best of Penetration OS02:51
darkhackquit02:53
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andres_:)03:11
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xMopxShellIn gnome 3, how can i type (or copy from somewhere?) emoji?03:12
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energizerWhen I resume from suspend, my background and edges of windows look like this. https://imgur.com/a/faED7 How can I fix this?03:45
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gartral 04:16
gartralok, this is weird, whenever my system goes to sleep or screensaver, my mouse cursor dissapears, i'm on ubuntu 16.04 LTS fresh install04:17
gartralrather, it dissapears when i log bak in04:18
Jordan_Ugartral: Can you still (blindly) click things?04:22
Jordan_Ugartral: Is it visible at the lock screen?04:23
energizerWhen I resume from suspend, my background and edges of windows look like this. https://imgur.com/a/faED7 How can I fix this?04:26
on3pkSo, on a scale of 1 to Moronic, how dumb is it to run docker inside a VPS?04:57
gartralJordan_U: yes and yes05:02
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tubalWhat do people think of the default rules for ufw in U 16.nn? Good enough?05:02
gartralJordan_U: sorry about the delay, had to field a dad who decided to unplug his desktop because "the cables took too much room"05:03
sisyphusman wmctrl05:03
gartralJordan_U: an os update fixed it05:13
radkek\quit05:15
tenosHello, I am having a slight issue with Chrome Remote Desktop, is there anyone around that might help?05:17
tenosactive for the ubuntu support channel...05:20
NickIgnatt05:29
ViborHi05:43
lotuspsychjeVibor: dont join irc as root mate05:43
ViborI 'm new, why not?05:44
lotuspsychje!root | Vibor05:44
ubottuVibor: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:44
lotuspsychjeVibor: join irc as the regular user for safety05:44
Dr_CokeVibor because if someone gains access to your computer as root they can screw your computer05:45
Dr_Cokelog in as a user for protection05:45
ViborOh, thx you all05:45
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Dr_Cokewelcome05:46
Guest31065#join ubuntu-mx05:46
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royal_screwup21I installed pandas (or so I thought) via the terminal and here's what I got: https://thepasteb.in/p/xGhmnVPY2o7uM. Then I imported pandas on a script but got an error saying there was no module named pandas. How do I resolve this?05:56
CamronGood morning all. I have just installed owncloud and set it up to work but when accesing it from the browser I get the error "ssh2.0-openssh_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4Ubuntu2.1 " any ideas06:02
qwrbountysource06:03
Camronwas that to me06:03
lotuspsychjeCamron: you added ppa's of any kind?06:04
Camronyes, it works local06:04
lotuspsychjeCamron: we dont support external ppa's mate, can you contact the maintainer of the ppa?06:05
lotuspsychje!ppa | Camron06:05
ubottuCamron: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge06:05
Camronthanks06:05
pyromaxHi06:12
pyromaxIs this the right place to ask complicated questions?06:12
Ben64about ubuntu, yes06:12
pyromaxI think it's about LVM06:12
pyromaxI have had a server running for years, and now my disks start failing06:13
pyromaxI have replaced one of them06:13
pyromaxand another has failed, but I thought there was nothing on there06:14
pyromaxbut I rebooted and can't get the d**n thing to start06:14
pyromaxI get an error: "device-mapper: table: 252:8 raid: Fail to run raid array"06:15
pyromaxand I'm kind of lost as to where to look06:15
pyromaxanybody has an idea?06:16
royal_screwup21https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE4K29zLVHV I got this message after it said "successfully installed pandas". So I went to the directory mentioned, performed "chmod 777 -R *", but to no avail. I'm still not able to import pandas on my python script. How do I resolve this error?06:17
drjamgl pyromax06:19
Ben64royal_screwup21: whoa be careful with chmod06:19
Big_BirdWhat would you all say is something very cool to do in Ubuntu that is rather unique to linux?06:23
pyromaxsorry?06:24
Ben64Big_Bird: you should ask that maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic06:24
Big_BirdBen64: Ok.  Thanks.06:24
testuser2i cant join #emaacs. anyone here using Emacs + Robe.06:25
testuser2i get bundler: failed to load command: irb (/home/user/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.5/bin/irb) while trying to run robe06:27
hateball!register | testuser206:32
ubottutestuser2: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.06:32
ViborHi06:34
ViborHow do you tell if I'm logged in as root?06:35
Ben64run "whoami"06:35
pyromax@vibor type: "id"06:35
testuser2hateball: :-(06:35
Hestonhello, does the latest version of ubuntu livecd include smartmontools?06:36
ViborI mean on a irc channel, some mates told me it was bad to log into irc as root, but how did they tell that06:36
lotuspsychjeVibor: when you logged in on irc last time it showed also root@yourhost this is how we saw you logged in irc as root06:36
hateballHeston: No. But you can apt install it live, provided you have an internet connection06:36
Hestonhateball: balls..06:37
lotuspsychjeVibor: this time your logged in as leo@... so its good06:37
HestonI wont have internet06:37
Hestonand I need to boot it up at the location to test a drive im buying06:37
Viborlotuspsychje: OK06:37
pyromaxanyone know anything about LVM?06:38
hateballHeston: There are other distros better suited for recovery operations and hardware tested. Otherwise you have to remaster Ubuntu yourself06:38
lotuspsychjepyromax: best to solve your issue, with your full question to the channel06:38
hateballHeston: You also have the option of making a persistent install on a thumbdrive06:38
lotuspsychje!lvm | pyromax can this help?06:38
ubottupyromax can this help?: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:38
Hestonhateball, hmm..yeah that would be a ton of work and time06:39
hateballpyromax: fwiw, I think this is a nice resource on getting started with LVM https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm06:39
ViborSo I wonder if there is any way I can tunnel my whole system's network through a firefox VPN add-on?06:39
Hestonprobably just go with a centos livecd06:39
hateballHeston: making a persistent install to a thumbdrive isnt very time consuming tho06:39
hateballHeston: but it's all up to you :)06:39
Hestonhateball, it is with usb 206:39
hateballHeston: personally, I use something like systemrescuecd if I just need to test hardware etc06:40
lotuspsychjeVibor: there are different ways to tunnel your internet/apps, but this channel is used for ubuntu support06:40
Hestonhmm, youd think for something as unanimous as smartmontools, it would be included as default06:41
Hestonjust like memtest is06:41
lotuspsychjeVibor: for firefox questions: #firefox or networking: ##networking06:41
lotuspsychje!manual | Vibor see also this for starter06:41
ubottuVibor see also this for starter: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/06:41
pyromaxok, so I was not clear enough half an hour ago, or just now. I really fucked up my hom eserver, which used to run on mirrorred disks. One failed, and just after replacing it, another crashed, and now I can't boot.06:41
pyromaxsomteing to do woth " fail to run raid array"06:42
Hestonhateball, ill check out systemrescuecd though, thanks06:43
pyromaxI'm not just starting with LVM or raid, all your links are nice, but I already read and discarded them06:43
ViborMaybe I should ask this question on firefox channel, silly me:pOC06:44
Hestonpyromax, so your raid array wasnt able to rebuild before the other drive crashed?06:44
lotuspsychjepyromax: your on ubuntu server?06:44
pyromaxrunning an updated version of ubuntu server, mirrored and well up until 8 hours ago06:45
pyromaxI had a failing disk a week ago, and replaced it two days ago, everyting seemed fine.06:46
pyromaxI also had some old disks in the server, which I wanted to remove (because: old)06:47
pyromaxand just when I rebooted before changing any hardware, crash06:47
lotuspsychjepyromax: you can also use the #ubuntu-server channel if you like, to state your issue06:47
pyromaxoh, I did not know there are more channels, sorry06:48
pyromaxwhat should I do?06:48
pyromaxhow do I find that server channel?06:48
lotuspsychje!server | pyromax06:49
ubottupyromax: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server06:49
lotuspsychjepyromax: most clients can join on clicking the #channel-name06:50
lotuspsychjepyromax: if not, type /join #ubuntu-server06:50
testuser2 /k06:51
testuser2j i mean06:51
pyromaxok, thanks, but nothing seems to be happening on there06:51
lotuspsychjepyromax: im just trying to widen your options06:52
pyromaxand i am very gratefull for you to point e in that direction06:52
lotuspsychjepyromax: to get an issue solved, be patient and re-ask your issue once in a while to the channel (all in one line) with your steps taken06:53
lotuspsychje!details | pyromax like this06:53
ubottupyromax like this: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.06:53
hateballstarting with "does anyone" rarely yields good answers06:53
user5938are there any console programs I can download that will play music?06:54
lotuspsychje!players | user5938 can this help?06:55
ubottuuser5938 can this help?: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs06:55
tubaluser5938: I think mplayer does that.06:56
user5938I want to stream it from youtube06:56
pyromaxok, so when I reset my computer, it starts spewing messages: "device-mapper: table 252:8 raid: Fail to run raid array"06:56
user5938or other free services06:56
user5938like radio06:57
pyromaxI can't boot anymore, except from an USB stick in  rescue mode06:57
hateballpyromax: Are you using only LVM, or are you also using mdadm ?06:59
lotuspsychje!info mps-youtube | user5938 is this usefull for you?07:00
pyromaxI have not used mdadm consciously07:00
ubottuuser5938 is this usefull for you?: mps-youtube (source: mps-youtube): Terminal based YouTube jukebox with playlist management. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.7.1-1 (yakkety), package size 53 kB, installed size 238 kB07:00
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pyromaxdo you have any experience with LVM? I must admit the initial installation was on different disks as the ones I have now...07:03
lotuspsychjepyromax: describe more details of your issue mate, ubuntu server versio? up to date? installation steps at your setup? did you check your cables/hardware? etc07:05
lotuspsychjepyromax: did it work before? when did it go wrong?..the more info you provide, the more change your issue gets solved07:06
pyromaxHardware is from years ago (about 5/6 years), ubuntu server version I'm not sure about, and since I cannot boot, I cannot check.07:07
pyromaxAll cables are ok07:07
lotuspsychjepyromax: you dont know your server version you on?07:07
pyromaxhardware should be ok, the only doubt is  a brand new disk which may be DOA, but which is not used in the RAID array07:07
pyromaxI updated the server (software-like) about 6-8 months ago, but I'm net 100% sure07:08
sirv_highjust boot from a usb or cd07:09
pyromaxI'm booting from USB right now07:09
lotuspsychjepyromax: we cant smell what you did mate, did it go wrong after the new HD?07:09
lotuspsychjepyromax: lsb_release -a07:09
sirv_highshould we accompany u thru this process ?07:09
pyromaxyeah, give me a minute. let me try to explain, I appreciate every little bit of advise07:10
lotuspsychjepyromax: can you recall updating to 14.04 or 16.04?07:10
pyromax16 something07:11
pyromaxis there an /etc/release? I'm starting from usb right now07:11
pyromaxsorry, let me try to explain what I did, it might take some time07:12
lotuspsychjepyromax: ok, so lets presume your on 16.04 server, when did it go bad? after pluggin your new disk?07:12
hateballpyromax: there's /etc/issue07:13
lotuspsychjewhen did the 'failed array' error came up07:13
pyromaxthe failed array comes up during boot07:13
lotuspsychjepyromax: yes you already said, but did it work fine before?07:13
pyromaxwell, yeah, but i had not rebooted for about a year ........07:14
lotuspsychjeerm07:14
pyromaxyep07:14
lotuspsychjepyromax: some updates requier reboots, you never update and reboot?07:15
alkisgHaha, no security updates for a year...07:15
pyromaxok, so /etc/issue: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \107:15
pyromaxyeah, I'm bad07:15
lotuspsychjepyromax: if your on .1 you must have rebooted sat some point, its not a year old07:16
pyromaxI'm starting to dount myself before yo mentioned that07:16
pyromax*doubt07:16
lotuspsychjepyromax: ok tell us when things got wrong?07:16
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: pyromax ^^ that issue report from the liveDVD ?07:17
pyromaxwhen I started replacing harddisks07:17
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lotuspsychjepyromax: can you describe exactly what you did?07:17
n1bWhen using the terminal how can you scroll back up to look at text?07:17
pyromaxthat will take some time, because I have been fiddling around for about 7 hours now, but let me try07:18
sirv_highwhat ? security updates require reboot ? how can that work in a production envirinment07:18
lotuspsychjesirv_high: every machine needs a reboot once in a while07:19
xXEoflaOEXxn1b, Which terminal are you using? Xterm?07:19
n1bI'm using a bash shell07:20
n1bno gui07:20
sirv_highlotus > why ? i always thought linux can be run withotu reboots for decades07:20
cfhowlettsirv_high, can.  not should.07:21
lotuspsychjesirv_high: good uptimes are good, but even then a machine needs a reboot once in a while07:21
xXEoflaOEXxn1b, Try the PageDown and PageUp. Is it Ubuntu server?07:21
sirv_highlotus > lol why should need a machine a reboot ?07:21
cfhowlettsirv_high, are you trolling?07:22
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n1bI tryed that and it did not work07:22
n1bcan i try | less07:23
BadCodSmellThere is a package that simply wont update.07:23
sirv_highcf > no, i always was 100% sure that it is possible to run linux without reboot, this is new to me . also i dont get why a machine needs a reboot ... like the hardware needs a reboot ?07:23
BadCodSmellApt cache policy seems to be stuck on the old version07:23
sirv_highbut i was not a server admin07:23
BadCodSmell1000+ machines upgrade fine but this one doesn't.07:24
BadCodSmellWhen debian chooses which package (IE apt-cache policy) is there a way I can get it to show me how it's actually making that determination?07:24
lotuspsychjesirv_high: after kernel updates i would reboot07:24
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pyromaxok, off (my) topic: a reboot for a computer is usefull once in a while07:24
Bashing-omnisseni: mouse wheel to scroll ??07:24
xXEoflaOEXxn1b, Try shift + Pageup07:24
pyromaxfor possible hrdware failures07:24
cfhowlettsirv_high, long story short: you were misinformed.  yes it is possible to run without reboot.  not always advisable and, as lotuspsychje pointed out, often required.07:24
BadCodSmellThere's no indication of any problem it just things that it should install version 1.2.3 instead of 1.2.407:25
n1bokay that worked07:25
k1l_BadCodSmell: can you pastebin the apt-cache policy output?07:25
pyromaxI have seen it plenty of time, servers running for years (record: 9 years, 10 months, 12 days) without issue07:25
pyromaxreboot: almost all the hardware wont run again07:26
sirv_highpyromax i never thought about it this way07:26
lotuspsychje!ot07:26
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:26
pyromaxok, about my current problem:07:27
pyromaxI have a server with 2 500 GB HDD's, mirrored.07:27
pyromaxAnd this ran my website and email (wichern.nl) I added 2 2TB HDD'sand tried to move the submirrors around. All went well, until a week ago and one of the 2TB disks started sprouting SMART errors. I got a new one, and replaced it. Started syncing.  All seemed fine. Today (or yesterday evening) I decided to remove the old 500GB HDD's. I just unplugged the sata-data-cables (all the power cables are still in place). And rebooted, error, 07:27
pyromaxadjusted GRUB, errors, tried all kinds of LVM commands07:27
cfhowlettpyromax, best answered in #ubuntu-server07:27
BadCodSmellk1L_: Installed: x-1.2.3 | Candidate: x-1.2.3 | 1.2.4 900 | 500 url distro/all amd64 Packages | *** 1.2.3 900 | 500 url distro/all amd64 | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status07:28
lotuspsychjepyromax: i also suggest you doublecheck the hardware part you did in ##hardware07:28
pyromaxI think I somehow missed a command or something when adding a new disk to an array07:28
BadCodSmellAs you can see, no reason for it. not held, no indication of any dependency errors, etc07:28
k1l_BadCodSmell: please put the specific output on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here07:28
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BadCodSmellk1l_: There is nothing in apt-cache policy, I have checked it, I use the command all the time, I even make scripts to parse it to fix things and no there's no pin07:29
BadCodSmellI have 1000 machines as well to compare too the only difference is the candidate and ***07:30
BadCodSmellThe question is how can I get apt-get to actually spit out why it's doing this07:30
sirv_highhttp://wichern.nl/ is not working07:30
pyromaxno, that's because the server won't boot07:31
pyromaxbecause of raid issues07:31
k1l_hard to tell without actual output. did you run apt update before? is there some dependency blocking? etc etc etc07:31
xXEoflaOEXxsirv_high because that server is down.07:31
pyromaxdo you know if I can import an volume group?07:32
BadCodSmellk1l_: Nothing. I've been doing this for years. It's just like it seems to thing 1.2.3 is greater than 1.2.4 and I don't know anyway I can get it to actually expose it's working.07:33
BadCodSmellIt's a hard problem07:33
jadewhey, where can I see a list of bug reports for various packages?07:33
k1l_jadew: launchpad.net07:34
jadewthanks07:34
BadCodSmellmaybe it's database is corrupt. weird things in aptitude alternatives07:34
BadCodSmellI guess this is one of those corrupt bitrot bugs you get with crap loads of boxes07:35
k1l_BadCodSmell: its hard to just guess from the unspecific data you provide.07:35
BadCodSmellk1l_: I've already told you that I've reached the point of all the things you would do07:35
BadCodSmellThe only thing now is... well I need apt to tell me what it's actually doing07:35
BadCodSmellas usual apt never shows its reasoning07:35
k1l_BadCodSmell: ok, if you have done everything, and know everything, then i cant help you, sorry.07:36
k1l_BadCodSmell: sudo apt install package will tell why its not updating.07:36
BadCodSmellnormally it might say something07:37
BadCodSmellnot in this case, hmm maybe if i force it07:38
BadCodSmellugh it wants to remove a bilion packages and wont say why07:39
pluesch0rhi everybody. i'm running xenial. unfortunately, the snmpd daemon in denial seems to report wrong interface names when being queried on oid 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2 - i'm getting output like STRING: "Red Hat, Inc Device 0001" instead of "eth0". this does not happen in the snmpd version present in trusty, i only found a bug report in debian describing the behaviour that i'm experiencing07:40
pluesch0r(https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788228) - is this a known problem, can anybody reproduce?07:40
ubottuDebian bug 788228 in snmpd "snmpd: Wrong label in ifDescr" [Important,Open]07:40
pluesch0rs/denial/xenial/g, hah07:40
BadCodSmellspecifically telling it to install those packages works07:40
BadCodSmellIE inverted, the normal way you tell it to downgrade07:41
BadCodSmellno conflict no reason... 4 < 3 = true07:41
BadCodSmellI think this is a sign that reality is collapsing07:41
pyromaxok, thank you, I'm going to concentrate on a fresh install now, thank you07:42
catwarHello! I'm looking for some help with fixing my sound. I had a green analog to my monitor that worked fine in windows but it seems it isn't recognized under ubuntu, any advice?07:43
sirv_highpyromax so u gave up on restoring the RAID ?07:44
pyromaxyeah,07:44
pyromaxI have been at it for 9 hours now, no hope in sight07:44
BadCodSmellcatwar did you google first for common audio problems in ubuntu?07:44
BadCodSmellalso make sure it's plugged in and the volume is turned up. ensure that the sound card is properly mounted in its ISA slot.07:45
pyromaxoh, and I forgot to mention, the 9 hours started at about 23:00 at night, I'm kinda beat07:47
pyromaxand this doesn't work either ...07:51
LondonAppDevHey guys, each time I power on my Ubuntu 16.04.1 desktop, bluetooth is disabled by default. In order to use my bluetooth mouse I need to turn it on each time... What could have changed to make bluetooth disabled by default?07:53
johnfluxHow do I install libpng12-0     in ubuntu 16.10 ?   I see it here:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/amd64/libpng12-0/1.2.54-1ubuntu107:59
johnfluxbut apt install libpng12-0   says it has no installation candidate07:59
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alkisgjohnflux: what's the output of: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy libpng12-008:03
alkisgAll the output, to pastebin08:03
alkisg!ops08:03
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ducassejohnflux: it's deprecated now, so not in the repos for yakkety.08:04
johnfluxducasse: so anyone that needs it is just screwed?08:05
johnfluxducasse: it's really frustrating when ubuntu does this!08:05
ducassejohnflux: the app that needs it should upgrade08:05
johnfluxducasse: okay, but what about the users of the app?08:05
ducassejohnflux: they can't keep including ancient libs forever08:06
johnfluxducasse: why not?08:06
MarcoPjohnflux, what app you actually trying to download08:06
MarcoPor install08:06
ducassejohnflux: it would be impossible to maintain and support08:06
johnfluxMarcoP: a React  program that uses npm08:06
MarcoPdo you mind saying the name of the program there might be an updated version somewhere08:07
MarcoPjohnflux,08:07
cfhowlettMarcoP, I think we're just supposed to guess - like Ms. Cleo or something08:08
johnfluxMarcoP: https://www.npmjs.com/package/pngquant-bin08:08
MarcoProfl08:08
cfhowlettjohnflux, imagemagick does this same function08:08
johnfluxcfhowlett: I don't use this directly.  I use:  https://github.com/mxstbr/react-boilerplate/tree/master/docs08:09
johnfluxand pngquant-bin is just one of the packages it uses08:09
johnfluxbut if you google for:  libpng12-0 has no installation candidate    you get lots of other programs that use this08:09
johnfluxe.g.   wps-office:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/840412/how-to-install-wps-office-on-ubuntu-16-10/84042908:10
johnfluxor Teamview 1108:10
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MarcoPdoes it need to be pngquant-bin?08:10
MarcoPcause I see pngquant on synaptic package manager08:11
MarcoPi have yakkety yak08:11
johnfluxfor me personally, I just installed the xenial version and that worked08:11
johnfluxbut it's really annoying with ubuntu just removes packages that thousands of apps use08:12
MarcoPwell pngquant is in synaptic package manager...08:12
johnfluxI'm talking about libpng1208:12
MarcoPwell you said you were trying to install pngquant08:12
cfhowlettthere are many no longer maintained packages in linux.  does not mean they should be used ...08:12
ducassejohnflux: for apps you have the source to it is not a problem, just recompile against newer lib08:13
MarcoPi think he might be trying to use an outdated program08:13
MarcoPthat is why he is running into problems08:13
MarcoPyakketty yak has a version of that program in the repository08:14
pluesch0rsolution for my snmpd dilemma under xenial: the nagios script i used to check interfaces (check_snmp_int.pl) checks the wrong oid, it should not check ifDesc but rather ifName. changed the oid in the script, everything works.08:27
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hdon_hi all :) any python devs here? i've installed virtualenvwrapper on xenial but i have no mkvirtualenv(1) cmd -- what am i missing?08:28
VictoraGood evening.08:32
VictoraIs any semi good irc user willing give me some direct answers to questions, no kidding, i just need some help.08:33
ducasseVictora: try #freenode08:33
rifterVictora, just ask the questions08:34
VictoraI am installing ubuntu and irc server on it, but stumbled across somee obvious questions, to many.08:35
rifterwell yeah, #freenode for irc questions, but if you have an ubuntu question...08:35
rifteroh okay08:35
rifterso ask the questions08:35
rifterwhat irc server did you install08:35
VictoraIf i create a new channel, non registered, and simply go into it, and talk to myself with nobody else in channel, can anyone review what i typed to myself.08:36
Victora?08:36
rifteryou can if you log it, sure08:36
rifteroh can anyone else .. well, people have to be in a channel to log it08:37
rifteror have a bot in there, whatever08:38
VictoraSo if its say a channel i used before for experimenting, and had say 12 practice participants help me, they could have set channel to log, so that if i typed like a diary my most secret inner concepts of packing thickness of wafers and cutting blades needed, it could have been recorded in a buffer of soomeone from the experiment past.08:38
Victoratorque motor speed, angular velocity etc08:39
ducasseVictora: they need to be present in the channel at the time08:39
Victoraducassse i thought that was the case, but wasnt sure.08:40
sirvvictoria > it is too late, all your sick ideas u typed on the empty channle are logged, and we will know everythinkg about you08:40
VictoraI know regardless of my buffer size it never shows me prior to when i logged out.08:40
samiuxrecently, openssl is update for security.  however, my box required to be rebooted.  I would like to know that if livepatch can avoid reboot when openssl or alike is updated?08:41
Victorasirv you are troll leave me alone08:41
theyesmenwhat makes you think openssl requires a reboot?08:41
sirvvictoria i'am not a troll, i helped 3 ppl already on this channel in one week, all 3 of them helped me08:42
samiuxtheyesmen, when I login to my box via ssh, it advised me to have a reboot.08:42
VictoraThen dont infer i talk in that type language.08:42
VictoraI dont take humor in <sirv> victoria > it is too late, all your sick ideas u typed on the empty channle are logged, and we will know everythinkg about you08:43
Victorai find that type of help not helpful08:43
VictoraI know 100 percent of irc is logged, reviewed, and occasionally a military or nsa or fbi agent investigates further, but not about simple studies to get a system to work normally.08:46
theyesmensamiux, strange.08:46
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panicstrVictoria stop trolling :P08:47
theyesmenprobably another package not related to openssl. because i upgraded a large server and instantly logged back in. no problems.08:47
samiuxtheyesmen, I have similar experience in other kernal module is updated and it requires me to have a reboot too.08:47
theyesmensamiux, i can tell you that MUST be related to something else.08:47
VictoraI actually am not trolling, it might seem so but had that one question regarding buffers.08:47
theyesmennot an openssl issue.08:47
samiuxtheyesmen, I am not asking if it is openssl issue or not.  I am asking if I applied livepatch, this kind of reboot can be avoided or not.08:48
ducassesamiux: it has nothing to do with the kernel08:48
VictoraOkay open ssl question, has mirc implimented ssl successfully for practical users needs?08:49
samiuxso, livepatch cannot prevent ubuntu box to be required to reboot when something else is updated/upgraded?08:49
samiuxducasse, but I mean kernal modules08:49
ducassesamiux: openssl is not a kernel module08:50
samiuxthe crypto module08:50
realmisthey guys08:50
ducassesamiux: not related08:50
realmistI do want to disable the F1 key to open  a gnome terminal documentation08:51
rifterVictora, not sure about mirc since that is a windows program, but most irc clients do have ssl support08:51
realmistso that I can use it for some other software where I need to press , F1 to execute the software files instead ?08:51
samiuxwhat if a kernal module is updated, the box is required to reboot even livepatch is applied?08:51
realmistducasse: so do you have any idea or any docs ?j08:51
realmistI don't like ubuntu steals my keybindings and I can do nothing about that instead /08:52
Victoramirc for windows specifically states their most current release includes ssl, and when i did the little test program on it it stated passed.08:52
realmistany one knows /08:54
samiuxhmmm, nobody knows08:54
ducassesamiux: some kernel modules can just be unloaded and reloaded, i don't know how livepatch affects them. it should manage them too, though.08:54
samiuxducasse, thanks for your reply08:55
ducassesamiux: for details you should probably try #ubuntu-kernel for example08:56
samiuxducasse, thanks08:56
ducassesamiux: np08:57
VictoraMy installation, a computer that at present can run ubuntu from a scard when placed in slot, 32 gig chip, and I have full windows 10.0 build 14393, would it be possible to do an install to a second drive, eliminating need for sdcard, and duel boot, and is duel boot for purposses of discussion, boot both at once?  or boot one given a selection in boot process.08:57
lakshayyo bitches wazz up???08:58
ducasseVictora: you select at boot08:58
akikVictora: you can shrink the partition that now holds your win10 installation (with the disk management tool in win10), and then install ubuntu on the ssd/hdd09:00
erm3ndaakik, nice idea09:00
Victoraducasse is this inferior to windows with a vm running ubuntu separately, given fairly good machine speed.  And to be able to more or less alt tab between ubuntu and windows, as opposed to restarting each time you wished change.09:00
aerI have ubuntu and fedora set on a vmware.. will those ips be the same? how can i know the ip of both the machines09:00
aerwill ip differ or will it be same09:00
theyesmenaer, differs09:01
erm3ndaaer, each vm has it's own ip09:01
theyesmenin terminal enter "ifconfig"09:01
erm3ndaifconfig te see them09:01
erm3ndassry :-B09:01
theyesmenall good09:01
akikVictora: a vm is probably an easier solution, yes you can alt-tab to the vm, it's usually running in a window if you use virtualbox09:02
VictoraWould this involve moving my ocean videos to a 3rd drive freeing up space.  So being able to run windows and ubuntu concurently means running them from same drive, yes?09:02
aertheyesmen: how can i find the ip?09:02
rifterrealmist, key bindings where? You can change those .. in at least some contexts09:03
VictoraOracle vm the best for a windows 10 > and back vm, or other vendor?09:03
akikVictora: the storage drive for the vm disk can be on another disk too, but preferably on the fastest disk09:03
VictoraI have 4 sdd and 3 mixed, and one pure big old hdd.09:04
boboliu_aer, just enter "ifconfig" in terminal09:05
VictoraBut i want simple path to install, and backup, nothing fancy really09:05
Victorame bobo?09:05
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theyesmenaer, we told you09:06
aersorry theyesmen dint notice that09:07
akikVictora: virtualbox is a good solution09:07
geirhaor ip -o addr show09:07
aernow what is the ip here https://gist.github.com/anonymous/80d2122f5c4fb20e46e389ec7f67e8e009:07
boboliu_aes, the inet addr of device ens33, here is 192.168.47.12809:08
VictoraIn partitioning drive, the simplicity is apparent.  My main drive is all set up for having partitioin added since its defragged daily, so use the install wizard from ubuntu disk partition disk, it will understand htfs, and be able to create its own ownership partitiion and accept a bootable ubantu. which I could boot concurrently with windows 10. Both running at same time, including their09:10
Victoramodules and sub routines?09:10
ducasseVictora: if you dualboot you run one os at a time09:11
Victoraducasse, there is no such thing as duel boot clean, having both run without a virtual machine correct?09:12
ducasseVictora: no, impossible.09:12
toha1Good morning everyone09:12
VictoraDucasse, money no object, what is preferred vm09:13
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ducasseVictora: i prefer kvm, but that only runs on linux hosts09:13
Victorahi toha109:13
Victorai only want a linux host to run 2 applications09:14
boboliu_Victora, why not try docker?09:14
VictoraI will be willing to be dumb, and ask, what is docker?09:15
liu_x.09:15
Victoralike a level 3 or such service?09:16
ducasseVictora: you need a full hypervisor to run a complete other os. try virtualbox.09:16
Victoratry virtual box - buy a machine that is a vitural box, or buy a rental use of a machine that is a virtual box, or install an application called hypervisoor and create an os that behaves as a virtual box09:18
ducasseVictora: install a hypervisor (application) called virtualbox, install ubuntu in a vm you set up with that.09:19
panicstrducasse i installed a windows 7 vm in kvm but it is running very slow09:21
EriC^panicstr: how much ram did you give it?09:21
ducassepanicstr: use virtio drivers09:21
alkisgpanicstr: does your host support hw acceleration for virtualization, vt-x? If not, vbox is much faster there.09:22
Victoraducasse i am smart woman, but linear of thinking, can you give me do a >> then do >> then do c >>> and then you will be in place to do >>> create 2 name servers, one http server for personal site i fully control, for kicks, an eggdrop and znc or psybnc to protect self. but generally the final product being very low bandwidth, home delivered, website, and secure sockets based, and mess around09:23
Victoraon irc with privacy with a znc and eggie, and not pay bunch of providers that cant speak english or at least in ways i understand.09:23
panicstri guess it does. I had a similar vm running quite good before the upgrades the other day09:23
VictoraDucasse just one or two first steps done correctly would keep me busy.09:24
akikVictora: virtualbox is a good solution for you09:24
Victoraakik describe what you mean by virtual box, is it something on a rack of a provider selling services?09:25
alkisgpanicstr, egrep 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo09:25
akikVictora: virtualbox is a free virtualization application09:25
ducasseVictora: virtualbox is a hypervisor, i just told you :) just install like any other application09:25
akikVictora: http://www.virtualbox.org/09:25
Victorasimimilar to oracle vm, or different animal?09:26
bryan_animal09:26
wedgieoracle owns it, so...09:26
akikVictora: the _product name_ is virtualbox09:26
boboliuDocker is a lightweight solution to run applications. Hmm... maybe harder to use.09:26
alfioHi. I have an old asus eeepc 1201k. I installed xubuntu 16.04. All seems working except EVERY browser. All browsers crash (firefox, chrome, konqueror, midori, xombrero). Did someone has my same problem? (Excuse my english, I'm Italian)09:27
lotuspsychjealfio: tried chromium-browser?09:28
panicstralkisg: flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm dtherm tpr_shadow09:29
alkisgpanicstr: it's ok then; are you talking about slow graphics only, or slow in genera?09:29
alkisgl09:29
samaalfio, I think Xubuntu is heavy for your system. Generally eee series was for light use. Xubuntu uses heavy DE.09:29
aerwhy am i getting error when i do ssh-copy-id /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: ssh: connect to host 192.168.47.129 port 22: Connection refused09:30
aerssh-copy-id <ip> is the command i use09:30
Victorainstalling09:30
panicstrwindows show cpu usage 100% all the ime... is this related to cirrus display?09:30
alfiosama, thanks for your answer. I tried also lxde and openbox but browsers crash anyway09:31
Victorahow do i bind my sd chip with bootable ubantu to virtual box?09:31
ducasseVictora: don't. install on disk.09:31
Victoratoo large for cd09:32
Victoraits 1.5 gig09:32
alfiolotuspsychje, yes i tried also chromium-browser09:32
ducasseVictora: 'disk' as in hdd/ssd09:32
Victoraokay i have iso on sdd09:32
Victorai know its maddenting teaching beginners09:33
alkisgpanicstr: if there's no screen redrawing, and it's still showing 100% cpu, no i don't think it would be related to graphics or network09:34
VictoraWould you like to install this device softwaare... universal serial bus09:34
ducasseVictora: try this - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox09:35
Victorai accepted the usb install k going that link09:35
aerif i do sudo vi /etc/sudoers on ubuntu also i get user is not in sudoers file09:37
samaalfio, Do you receive any message? Usually at the time of crash, you get a window asking for reporting the issue. In that window, you can see the error. If you see this window, share the error here09:38
xuhuihi09:40
DevAntoinehi09:40
DevAntoineI need to deploy code to a remote Windows Server 2012. At the moment the only way to connect to this server is to use the RDP connection inside Remmina but I don't want to deploy by hand. Any idea how I can do this?09:40
hateballDevAntoine: try ##windows09:41
DevAntoinehateball: ahah, never thought of a #windows chan :D09:41
xuhuiwindows is a terrible monster.09:41
srulianyone familiar with otpw-gen? is ther a way to secure it that user should only be able to call it with sudo? in my opinion it is a security flaw that it does not require sudo, if i turn around for a few seconds anyone can generate a list of passwords, i tried changing onwer of /usr/bin/otpw-gen but although i can gen passowrds with sudo when trying to login it does not accapt the generated passwords09:45
Ben64sruli: how is that a security flaw09:48
Victoralike this?  http://imgur.com/bKOU7Y609:49
VictoraIs that rightt first step?09:50
Ben64Victora: looks fine09:50
sigg3Hello!09:51
Ben64Victora: except maybe you'd want one bigger drive instead of two 8GB ones09:51
sruliBen64: if i turn my back for a few seconds a person can without elevated privileges generate a list of one time passwords, which 1. will give them elevated privileges to do anything! 2. will expire my 1 time list ...09:51
Ben64sruli: how does that give them elevated permissions09:52
Victorayes i have empty drive with hrmm let me check preformated empty09:52
alfiosama, here you can find the output when i launch firefox from terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/2391714709:53
Victora27 gig old notebook drive09:54
Victoradrive I09:54
sigg3I am wondering how Ubuntu LiveCD (ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso) detects previous installations. I have a system with an SSD (16.04 LTS) and a harddrive (one is a backup of a 14.04 LTS). I want to upgrade the 16.04 to 16.10 from the iso, but the upgrade option does not appear in the installer since it detects >1 OS. The current system (16.04) is installed with UEFI (or there is an UEFI partition in fstab).09:54
sigg3I have unlinked several files on the old harddrive (e.g. vmlinuz and inird) and removed directories. It is only used as a file backup, not a running system. So how can I make the LiveCD installer ignore 14.4 so that I can choose Upgrade on the 16.04 to 16.10?09:54
Victorafully available, ubuntu sd disk not inserted on drive J09:54
pragomer_1is it possible to "browse" through a ppa and e.g. download some files manually?09:56
Victorais anyone meritorius of channel trust and i will let them connect to me.09:56
sruliBen64: before i explain elevated privileges - they can have ssh access (if configured) which is bad enough!  little background to what i want to achieve here... i try to support many friends on their transition to ubuntu (mostly from win) sometimes i have to ssh into their machine but i do not want them to give out their password, so i want to ask them to use otpw-pass, for this i need to configure ssh access with otpw, but also sudo access, wiuthout configurin09:56
Victorai can see files back and forth, when in ubantu see windows files and vice versa09:56
VictoraI suspect ubantu installed a portable versioin on the sd card, but has full install capacity but recognized its size09:57
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sruliBen64: for my usecase and in my opinion i consider it a security flaw big enough that i wont use it as is... my question is, is there a way to make the gen only work with sudo?09:58
Victoraam i safe to click install ubantu, and it not overwrite my c drive and given opportunity to select drive.  The reason of my concern is my bios simply says hdd, cd/dvd, usb chip as boot options, it does not create list of hard drives.10:00
Ben64sruli: it doesn't make any sense10:00
alkisgsruli: you want to be able to assist them while having sudo access to their machines, and without learning their passwords?10:00
sruliBen64: what doesnt make sense?10:00
Ben64anything you're saying10:00
ducasseVictora: the ubuntu installer running in virtualbox can't see your actual jardware, just what is provided through the hypervisor10:01
ducassesruli: what does otpw-gen do that gives a user elevated privileges?10:01
sruliBen64: alkisg: with otpw it makes perfect sense to get ssh/sudo access to a machine without knowing the password, thats what otpw (One Time PassWords) is for10:02
alkisgsruli: I'm asking for what you want to do, not how you want to do it...10:02
alkisgsruli: for example, I do that 10 times per day here, with reverse vnc connections10:02
Victoraducasse so install the ubantu via the original iso not chip to my empty drive.  am i hearing you right?10:02
sruliducasse: if you configure it for sudo (in pam.d)10:02
alkisgsruli: the clients run a command and connect to me, and if I need sudo, they are able to enter their passwords without me seeing it10:03
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alkisgsruli: and they always see what I do to their PCs10:03
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alkisg(screen sharing)10:03
ducasseVictora: ignore the sd card, install through virtualbox to an image on your disk.10:03
srulialkisg: with reverse vnc you are correct, however i want reverse ssh in which case they cannot enter the password for sudo commands10:03
alkisgsruli: there's reverse socat/screen for that10:04
alkisgsruli: no need for ssh; ssh doesn't allow them to see what you're doing10:04
zzz10What are some good webscraping tutorials that feature BeautifulSoup4 and Python3?10:05
srulialkisg: thanks, will try to find man pages for socat/screen and read it up10:06
Victoraokay sd disk out you say that i would be good wit 28 gig drive for ubantu? to include, appache server, with secure sockets, irc server, eggie drop and znc? Given i dont want to do anything else.10:06
Ben64Victora: it's called "Ubuntu"10:06
hearihi guys10:06
ducasseVictora: that is several times what you need.10:06
alkisgsruli, here's one quick command to help you get going: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500; apt-get install socat; socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] apt-get install socat screen; socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1; exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:REMOTE-IP:5500 & screen -l -S ra10:07
Victorai misspell terribly sorry10:07
Victorak give me number10:07
Victorai got 8 drives10:07
heariToday has kernel a new update?10:07
ubuntuuserHello. Am using 16.04. While updating ap-get it says "28 No space left on device" but i have still sufficient space in my folders. Can anyone help please. This is the output of my "df -h" command: --> https://paste.ofcode.org/Hc6jdhZaisYjgd7mzKFFYb10:07
Victoramix mash of various computers.10:07
Ben64Victora: virtualbox doesn't care about drives, it puts a file wherever you tell it to, that file acts as the drive for whatever you're running invbox10:07
alkisgubuntuuser: your /var is full10:08
Victorabut drives need be formated in the partition appropriately for that application i would imagine ducasse10:08
ubuntuuseralkisg: Thanks. Any way to extend that?10:09
alkisgubuntuuser: why do you have it in a separate partition?10:09
srulialkisg:10:09
alkisgubuntuuser: I would suggest copying the existing contents to the / partition, and removing the entry from fstab10:09
Ben64Victora: no, it's a file10:09
ducasseVictora: no, virtualbox creates an image file and uses that as a drive10:09
VictoraDucasse for simplicity, tell me what i would need in total, and lets double it for my desired ubuntu10:09
srulialkisg: i prefer to read man pages first.. dous socat and screen need to be installed on local or remote or both?10:10
ubuntuuseralkisg: i do not know. I just read some online tutorial and partioned accordingly.10:10
ducasseVictora: don't ask me, please, i don't use virtualbox or windows :)10:10
alkisgsruli: socat to local, and both to remote. You *should* read the manpages, and then read the example that I gave, because without the example you won't know what to do with them.10:10
VictoraOkay so it doesnt need be in native fat 32 or htfs or whatever linux uses10:10
Ben64Victora: omg its a file on your computer like any file, inside that file is a fake drive for whatever os is running in vbox10:11
alkisgubuntuuser: ok, then go with what I suggested above10:11
HuduVictora: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox10:12
ubuntuuseralkisg: I couldn't understand what that means ! :-( Will google search it. Thanks !!! :-)10:12
Victorak what do i do, i have application open, and free drive with 28 gigs ben, point me10:12
srulialkisg: typo? "socat to local, and both to remote" do you mean socat to local and screen to both?10:12
Ben64Victora: pick a size to make the fake drive, put it somewhere and install ubuntu, done10:12
alkisgsruli: no, I mean "socat to local, and both socat and screen to remote"10:12
ducasseVictora: i gave you a link to step-by-step tutorial10:12
alkisgsruli: that means that you don't need screen, but the other person does need it. And both of you need socat.10:13
srulialkisg: thanks, hopefully it will be the perfect solution10:13
guardian_ubuntuuser : http://askubuntu.com/questions/480690/resize-hard-drive-partition-to-make-more-space-for-var10:14
ubuntuuserguardian_: Thanks ! :-)10:15
ducasseubuntuuser: pastebin output of 'df -h'10:15
ducasseubuntuuser: sorry, didn't see you did10:15
ubuntuuserducasse: Yes it is there.10:15
LearningToTrollwhats a pastebin?10:16
ducasse!pastebin | LearningToTroll10:16
ubottuLearningToTroll: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:16
LearningToTroll!pastebinit lol10:17
ubuntuuserducasse: My df -h  Output http://paste.ubuntu.com/23917241/10:17
ducasseubuntuuser: yes, i saw it. with such a big / you could just move /var there. for now try 'apt-get clean' to empty package cache, see if that helps.10:18
ubuntuuserducasse: yes i cleaned apt-get but i need much space. Would moving       /var     to       /       solve all?10:20
ducasseubuntuuser: / has 67g free, that is plenty for most usage.10:21
ubuntuuserducasse: Do you want me  to do this --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/89105/how-do-i-relocate-on-my-ubuntu-moveable-directories-var-and-usr10:23
ducasseubuntuuser: yes, in reverse. instead of moving from the root fs you move to it.10:25
ubuntuuserducasse: Thanks. I will do my homework and will attempt. I think i got my answer. Thanks !!!10:26
alkisgubuntuuser: the commands would be something like that: sudo -i; cp -a /var /newvar; umount -l /var; rmdir /var; mv /newvar /var; nano /etc/fstab <remove the line for /var>; sync; reboot10:26
ubuntuuseralkisg: Can i follow these commands with 'MachineOn' right now??10:27
alkisgubuntuuser: are you somewhat experienced with the terminal? i'm not 100% sure that I don't have a typo or something there10:27
ducassealkisg: ubuntuuser i would do this from a liveusb, i would not move /var on a running system10:28
ubuntuuseralkisg: yes i am bit acquainted with Terminal. Let me give it a go right now. :-)10:28
alkisgI agree with ducasse there10:28
alkisgI think it'll work though, not much to lose :D10:28
alkisg(faster than explaining on how to locate partitions and mount them etc)10:29
alkisgumount -l keeps the files in use open10:29
ubuntuuseralkisg: ducasse Ok i will attempt  right now. Let me take a bit risk.10:29
ubuntuuseralkisg: unable to remove /var using rmdir command. It says Directory not Empty.10:32
ducasseubuntuuser: files open10:33
alkisgubuntuuser: did `umount -l /var` succeed?10:33
ducassealkisg: you can't when there are open files iirc10:33
alkisgducasse: afaik, that's what -l is for...10:34
rifterducasse, correct10:34
rifteroh10:34
alkisgIt unmounts while leaving the file handles still open, accessible10:34
ubuntuuseralkisg: it did unmounted. But still /var is maintaining Cache10:35
alkisgubuntuuser: what's the output of `sudo du -sh /var` right now?10:35
* alkisg thinks a program started to write to the "new" /var immediately...10:36
ubuntuuseralkisg:  output:    708k /var10:36
alkisgYeah... so try: sudo -i; mv /var /var-to-delete && mv /newvar /var10:36
alkisgPut them with && to be fast enough to prevent other writes inbetween10:36
ubuntuuseralkisg: there is folder now /var/cache/fontconfig with many files in it10:37
alkisgubuntuuser: ignore it, you'll delete it on next reboot in /var-to-delete10:37
ubuntuuseralkisg: yes yes that would do.10:37
ubuntuuseralkisg: i better use Live CD on next reboot.10:38
alkisgubuntuuser: nah, I think you're fine10:38
alkisgubuntuuser: edit fstab, then reboot, and if it doesn't boot, only then use live cd10:38
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ubuntuuseralkisg: ok let me continue with the commands after i rmdir /var10:39
ubuntuuseralkisg: You want me to deleter UUID=324dd4ec-45af-40ce-8f2b-3cb0c6d2747e /var            ext4    defaults     $         ?????10:41
alkisgubuntuuser: just put a comment on front of it, #UUID...10:41
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alkisgubuntuuser: before you reboot, make sure that `sudo du -sh /var` is 400+ mb, not a few kb10:43
ubuntuuseralkisg: done. Now i will reboot and come back here in 2 minutes.10:43
alkisgok10:43
samaI am looking for a software (even CLI) for make a searchable index of all the files in all partions and devices. What I need is to keep the index file in the Home folder so I can search among offline devices (such as unmounted external HDD). Any suggestion? I hope here is the right place to ask10:48
EriC^sama: find /path > files ?10:49
samaEriC^: would `find` command work for offline devices as well?10:50
EriC^sama: you'd run it while mounted and it would save the files in "files"10:51
EriC^then you search with "grep -i filename /path/to/files"10:51
samaEriC^: That is great. Just it works with filenames. Is there any other solution which can do search on metadata also?10:52
efestohello, good morning, i have a little problem with sound, i only have noise on right speaker. I'm on laptop over ubuntu 16.04 with a clean install10:54
EriC^sama: ask in ##linux they might have a nice solution/program10:54
samaThanks EriC^. Your reply was very helpful10:55
geirhasama: there's already locate for that10:55
ubuntuuserducasse: am loggin in from a windows Machine. It is not getting booted. It is struck at /dev/sda9 recovering journal.10:55
geirhaYou just have to configure it to also index external drives and such10:56
ubuntuuserducasse: remember we were talking about relocatin /var to / . That machine is struck at ---->     /dev/sda9 recovering journal10:57
ducasseubuntuuser: because the journal was not closed properly since you unmounted the fs it was on. that is why i said you should use a live image :)10:59
alkisgubuntuuser: you didn't reboot properly?10:59
alkisgducasse: /var was not in sda9, / was10:59
alkisgHe never unmounted /10:59
alkisg /var was in sda611:00
alkisgAnyway, live copy didn't work due to whatever reason, boot from a live cd now to fix it...11:01
Underworldhello11:01
Underworldanyone there?11:02
ubuntuuseralkisg: yeah i will try with Live CD. Right now i booted into Recover Mode. I think it will help11:02
Underworldno that may not help11:02
alkisgubuntuuser: the recovery mode does contain an fsck option11:03
ducasse!behelpful | Underworld11:04
ubottuUnderworld: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.11:04
ubuntuuseralkisg: yes i got that. I ran FSCK. Till now all OK. :-)11:05
UnderworldHa ha ha cool man be cool11:05
alkisgubuntuuser: did it hang on reboot, and you had to hard-reset it?11:05
ubuntuuseralkisg: I confess it was taking Long Time to get shut-down. In haste to join here back i hard resetted it. It might had caused the problem.11:07
srulialkisg: i read the man page for socat and screen briefly, got it working, is the communication secure/encrypted? it doesnt use ssh11:08
sruliq11:08
alkisgubuntuuser: when you are impatient in the future, at least do this: http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/11:08
alkisgsruli: it uses openssl11:09
alkisgsruli: eeh, it *supports* openssl, if you want11:09
alkisgsruli: if you don't tell it to use openssl, then it will be unencrypted11:09
ubuntuuseralkisg: :-) Thanks. I was impatient indeed.11:11
inrahello everyone, I cannot run an operation in the terminal because of the message that I cant get rid of: 'unable to lock the administartion directory (var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?'..normally it used to disappear after a minute or so, but this one 'doesn't'.11:15
francoisbabeufAt some point my mysql root password appears to have been changed, and I can't seem to reset it.11:15
srulialkisg: do i need to configure openssl? when using openssl-listen instead of tcp-listen i get an error on remote "sslv3 alert handshake failure" and on local ".... no shared cipher"11:16
inraok, I did 'sudo su' and the operation could be done as root11:16
alkisgsruli: yes, you need to generate a certificate etc11:17
francoisbabeufThe old methods are not working, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure and restarting with initialisation turned of.11:17
srulialkisg: reading about it now.. final question can i start a reverse vnc from this screen?11:18
alkisgsruli: you have access to a client terminal. If it's inside xorg, sure, you can run reverse vnc11:18
alkisgsruli: also check out my program epoptes.org, it has some related functionality11:18
alkisgBoth vnc + socat for remote users, in the help menu11:19
alkisgIt also contains code on how to generate and use the openssl certificate over socat11:19
alkisgdebian/epoptes.postinst there11:20
francoisbabeufhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/38311094/access-denied-for-user-rootlocalhost11:20
francoisbabeufReinstalling everything would be a massive catastrophe for me, I have so many installed DBs11:21
alkisgfrancoisbabeuf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset11:21
francoisbabeufNone of those methods work anymore11:22
francoisbabeufExcept the purge route11:23
* alkisg tried one in 16.04 and it worked, don't remember which one11:23
alkisg(of course not the purge one)11:24
srulialkisg: i cant find help menu or code to generate openssl.. the program is interesting! i can just use that, no?11:26
alkisgsruli: sure11:26
alkisgsruli: I'm using it to monitor a whole lot of schools11:26
alkisg...which in turn use it to monitor their clients11:26
francoisbabeufThe daemon dies when you try to start it using the --skip-grant-tables11:26
srulialkisg: i meant to ask that will give me exactly what i want, assist user after they initiated ...11:27
alkisgsruli: yes, the users will need to have epoptes-client installed, and manually run the assist command from /usr/share/epoptes-client11:27
alkisgIt will present them with a gui11:27
alkisgWhich will ask them your IP and the vnc or socat method11:27
srulialkisg: will paly with it now.. thanks for your help11:28
alkisgnp11:28
ubuntuuseralkisg: ducasse thanks!11:32
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inrahello everyone, is there a way to check and ensure that there is no malicious software/code in the downloaded files (o11:35
inra?11:35
inra(and, thereby, my own files, too)11:36
lotuspsychjeinra: clamav antivirus?11:37
ducasselotuspsychje: inra clamav has little support for finding malware afaik11:38
lotuspsychjeyeah malware is really specific indeed11:39
inradoes it help to clean metadata?11:39
alkisgMaybe some windows program with wine...11:40
Tahr-Poopinra, use Comodo Antivirus for Linux or Immunet11:40
lotuspsychje!info rkhunter | inra perhaps11:40
ubottuinra perhaps: rkhunter (source: rkhunter): rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-6 (yakkety), package size 193 kB, installed size 984 kB11:40
qwrhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/460142/how-can-i-know-if-a-binary-is-malicious11:40
inragwr, thank you for the link :)11:41
inralotuspsyche, is clamav nicht auto-installed in system?11:42
lotuspsychje!info clamav11:42
ubottuclamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.99.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 105 kB, installed size 782 kB11:42
lotuspsychjeinra: =optional to install11:42
rekhello how are you guys? i have to install a couple of packages on a machine that is not on the net. i did apt-get --install-only to get the packages on another machine, but what about the dependencies?11:42
inraTahr-Poop, thank you, I will view this one, too11:43
lotuspsychjerek: its recommended you get the offline box also online at some point, to get latest packages11:43
ducassen1b: you can use apt-offline afaik11:43
inralotuspscyhje, thank you very much, I will try them11:44
reklotuspsychje, sure but i only need some packages i don't need to go online. i need to install a couple of packages of an old distro. i need to know how to get the dependencies only for some packages11:45
lotuspsychjeinra: best antivirus is being prudent and system up to date also11:45
lotuspsychjerek: great, check the package ducasse suggested11:45
rekwhich one lotuspsychje11:46
lotuspsychje!info apt-offline | rek11:47
ubotturek: apt-offline (source: apt-offline): offline APT package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7 (yakkety), package size 55 kB, installed size 304 kB11:47
inralotuspsychje, sure I do them, but you know, you never know if the link you click on is the link you think you click on :)11:47
inraok, maybe you know it mostly11:48
lotuspsychjeinra: found an interesting security hardening article the other day holdon11:49
lotuspsychjeinra: if you do all 50, not sure malware will passby anymore :p https://opensource.com/article/17/1/yearbook-50-ways-avoid-getting-hacked11:49
inralotuspscyhje, oh, thank you :) reading11:51
rekwhere does apt-offline stores packages? it's not specified in man apt-offilne11:52
usuariohOLaaa11:55
ducasserek: /var/cache/apt/archives i would think11:55
usuariohello11:55
usuariobonsoir11:55
usuariocabrones11:55
rekducasse, the same as apt-get uhm let me try11:57
BluesKajHi folks11:58
zenirc369hi guys12:10
zenirc369Chain INPUT (policy DROP)12:10
zenirc369DROP       all  --  anywhere             anywhere12:10
zenirc369ACCEPT     tcp  --  IP1         anywhere            tcp dpt:Port1 state NEW,ESTABLISHED12:10
zenirc369ACCEPT     tcp  --  IP2         anywhere            tcp dpt:Port2 state NEW,ESTABLISHED12:10
zenirc369In the above case, how does the DROP rule behave12:10
zenirc369?12:10
zenirc369Any ideas12:10
lotuspsychjezenirc369: perhaps a question for the #netfilter channel?12:12
zenirc369lotuspsychje: As I wasn't receiving any reply there, thought I would get some help here12:13
lotuspsychjezenirc369: sure, just trying to widen your options12:14
ducassezenirc369: you could try ##linux12:14
Seveaszenirc369: all incoming traffic is dropped, including responses to outgoing packets. Creating a fairly useless system :)12:15
francoisbabeufOk, this is getting really frustrating! I've managed to get it to read an init file with ALTER USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY ''; and it still doesn't work12:15
Seveaszenirc369: though to be 100% certain of that, I'd need to see iptables -L -v -n output (or even better: the output of iptables-save)12:16
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alexandre9099hi, what is the most similar software to Microsoft Accesss? (it must be compatible with the accdb files)12:32
hateballalexandre9099: LibreOffice Base12:33
alexandre9099not compatible with accdb :/12:33
testuser2alexandre9099: Calligra Suit ?12:34
alexandre9099i'll check12:34
hateballalexandre9099: Is there any reason you're not using a real db12:34
testuser2alexandre9099: http://www.kexi-project.org/wiki/wikiview/index.php@MDBDriver.html12:35
alexandre9099yes, i am a student, but everyone uses windows and office  suit, in this module we are learing to use microsoft access, i tryed convincing the teacher to teach mysql for example but i got a big no ...12:35
testuser2alexandre9099: Dual Boot.12:36
alexandre9099so yea, it needs to be compatible , or at leat on a format the can be opened on access (obd doesnt work)12:36
alexandre9099testuser2: i dont want to do that, the only solution is to use the computers of the school... but i prefer using my laptop12:37
alexandre9099i hate M$ because they dont even do an effort to make open formats compatible with their products... argh12:38
alexandre9099i'm checking caligra12:39
hateballalexandre9099: You could run Microsoft Office in wine, surely the school provides this if they expect you to use closed formats12:40
ppfor in a vm, which might give you a better experience12:40
savsince its a course that you would be quizzed in the future, i recommend you dualboot your machine so you can follow along. If you are using a different product, remember some questions may required you to describe the procedure and you might be found wanting because you are not using accdb with ms access but something else.12:41
alexandre9099hateball: that's the thing, they dont have any kind of partnership with M$ and i think they use not genuine products... (sometimes i just want to denunciate so they put linux and other open source programs on computers :D)12:41
NpcoWhen i am using Guake, I type blahblahblah, and it opens my irc client, but now I am unable to enter any more commands via line, what gives?12:42
alexandre9099the first module of this year was about excel, it is pretty similar to libreoffice calc. on the other hand libreoffice base is not very similar to access12:42
alexandre9099so i need to use the school computers12:43
ppfNpco: the terminal is running that program12:43
Npcohow do I run the program, without the terminal being awol?12:44
n4h0join/ #raspberrypi12:46
ppfNpco: appending a & will start a process in the background12:46
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ppfif it's already running hit ^Z in the terminal to go back to the prompt, then run bg to put the process into the background12:47
Npco#linux12:47
alexandre9099from kexi: "Access 2007's .accdb files are currently unsupported. ", that is the format we use, i'll check if it is possible to have the mdb format12:48
ppfalexandre9099: if that's an MS office course you should be using ms office12:49
ppfanything else will cause you pain and suffering12:50
alexandre9099the course is about database managing program... so technically speaking it could be any database managing program12:51
alexandre9099thats why i get mad at teachers... there is no partnership on that school so i dont see why they use M$ products... whatever12:52
hateballPolitics and/or ignorance :)12:53
savits because they know ms, so they teach ms12:53
hateballNothing #ubuntu can help you with at any rate12:53
savknow that u re a linux fun, you are most likely to recommend it12:54
alexandre9099sav yea, thats bad... no alternatives12:54
alexandre9099i already tryed convincing the teachers to use open alternatives (even using windows...)12:55
alexandre9099but they will not change :/12:55
alexandre9099afk... i'll install windows to see if sound card not being detected is a hardware problem (i think it is)12:56
francoisbabeufomg, is there truly no way to change the mysql root password anymore? I'm going to lose my mind. I've pulled this off like a dozen times in the past.12:57
alexandre9099if you have access to the server you can start it with a flasg12:58
alexandre9099*flag12:58
alexandre9099that ignores all permissions12:58
ducassefrancoisbabeuf: wouldn't #mysql be a better place to ask that?12:59
francoisbabeufMaybe, but there is a fairly complicated interaction with the installation12:59
alexandre9099francoisbabeuf: the flag is  --skip-grant-tables12:59
francoisbabeufalexandre9099, yes, this works but then you can't set the user pass anymore while in the permission free mode.13:00
alexandre9099?13:00
alexandre9099https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/resetting-permissions.html13:00
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francoisbabeufmysql> ALTER USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY '';13:04
francoisbabeufERROR 1290 (HY000): The MySQL server is running with the --skip-grant-tables option so it cannot execute this statement13:04
flingfrancoisbabeuf: time to edit mysql table13:04
alexandre9099wish me luck... installing windows temporarily... (why inst there any windows live cd... grrr...)13:06
alexandre9099afk13:06
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phil72how do i install a different version of the distro (want 16.04 lts, have 16.10)?13:16
ppfphil72: reinstall13:16
phil72whats the best way to do that - the same way i installed it originally?13:18
ppfyes13:18
phil72is there no apt process that can be run? -- will take advice, just curious13:19
cfhowlettsudo do-release-upgrade, phil7213:19
ducassephil72: no, apt can't downgrade a release13:20
ppfcfhowlett: other direction13:20
cfhowlettphil72, d'oh!  sorry, I read wrong.  thought you were going 16.04 >>> 16.11013:20
phil72no prob, thanks for the help13:21
alexandre9099argh... why windows needs to be so complicated... my computer came with a key but now the key dont work....13:23
phil72me too - have been running a windows vm off/on for a years and have had to deal with it/them/that several times13:24
phil72that brings up another q, whats the best way to run itunes on ubuntu? prob off/on-the-fringes of this channels topic but way better odds than asking apple :)13:29
ducassephil72: afaik a vm13:29
phil72or, better yet - where should i go to find an answer13:30
phil72will continue with that then, thanks ducasse13:30
ducassephil72: if you're going to use it with an i-thingy i believe a vm is your only option.13:33
phil72not interested in i-nonsense13:36
ppfexcept tunes?13:36
phil72just have a lot of content that is locked into itunes through DRM and other anti-piracy nonsense13:37
guardian_ppf : any luck with my shutdown issue?13:37
ppfguardian_: sorry, i got no further idea13:38
guardian_damn!!! What wrong with this system...13:38
guardian_eric^ hey13:38
chexit13:46
chhow do you exit13:46
ppf \quit13:46
xubuntu61dany timeframe for [ubuntu/zesty-proposed] firefox 51.0.1+build2-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)   Chris Coulson to ship, manifest shows >> firefox50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu113:57
ppf!ubuntu+1 | xubuntu61d13:58
ubottuxubuntu61d: Zesty Zapus is the codename for Ubuntu 17.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+113:58
xubuntu61dppf in daily-builds >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/14:00
ducassexubuntu61d: zesty support is in #ubuntu+1, not here14:01
xubuntu61das per >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/zesty-changes/2017-January/006894.html14:02
ducassexubuntu61d: we still don't support zesty here14:03
xubuntu61doh! sorry14:03
xubuntu61dtnks!14:04
NarevHi everyone14:12
NarevI'm an Ubuntu novice, but I have a question14:12
NarevMore of a conundrum, really14:12
ducasse!ask | Narev14:12
ubottuNarev: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:12
shangulNarev, ^14:12
shanguland hi14:13
NarevSorry, I was trying to be polite14:13
NarevI was attempting to get my 3d card working, so I downloaded the drivers from the Radeon site14:13
NarevI followed a list of quite complicated instructions I didn't really understand14:14
hateballNarev: If you have an AMD card you shouldnt really have to do anything, it should have the proper driver out of the box14:15
NarevThen when I rebooted the computer and the login screen came up, I entered my login, the screen went black and a line of text flashed for a second, then I was back at login14:15
NarevLet me see if I can find the page whose instructions I followed14:17
Narevhttp://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx   <--- This is what I did14:18
hateballNarev: and you have a card that is supported by the AMDGPU-Pro drive?14:19
hateballdriver*14:19
NarevRadeon 950014:19
hateballNarev: that isnt going to be supported by that driver. the link tells you how to uninstall it, so do that and you'll be back to a working environment most likely14:20
hateballthe pro driver is for the latest highend cards14:21
NarevI can't even log into the system though14:21
hateballNarev: ctrl+alt+f1 to switch a tty14:21
hateballthere you can run the command in a shell14:21
hateballNarev: ctrl+alt+f7 to return to the tty with X14:21
NarevAny websites you'd recommend for someone who's been a computer expert with windows for years and now wants to learn ubuntu without all the "This is how a bhard drive works!" padding?14:22
NarevThis is actually a brand new install, would a reinstall be easier?14:23
ducasseNarev: easier maybe, quicker no.14:25
Narevwhat's a tty?14:28
ducasseNarev: in this instance, a virtual console - a terminal.14:28
NarevSo like a different window in windows?14:34
ducasseNarev: no, like a terminal ;)14:35
adalbertNarev, no like a login prompt for a new session14:35
james0r2command prompt?14:36
NarevOkay, I'm running right now kin the "Try Ubuntu" environment on my thumb drive14:36
NarevWhen I restart my comp, and the login comes up, what should I do?14:37
feffaciao14:38
NarevI just need access to the directory to run the uninstall script14:38
feffa!lis14:38
ducasseNarev: ctrl+alt+f1, log in, follow uninstall instructions14:38
feffa!list14:38
ubottufeffa: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:38
feffa!list14:39
MastakillaHi everyone... I have a Windows 8.1 host running VMware Workstation 12. I'm trying to cleanly install the Ubuntu 16.04.1 as a guest. But every time the installation completes, it asks me to push the "restart now" button and then it freezes with an error "[sda] assuming drive cache: write through"14:45
MastakillaIf I then force a reboot, then it does boot into Ubuntu, but I'm not sure if the install completed cleanly, so I'd like to get this silly issue solved instead of ignoring it14:46
ducasseMastakilla: if it tells you to hit restart the install is finished14:47
Mastakillaok thanks, but why is it having trouble with the first boot then?14:47
Mastakillain meanwhile I already tried reinstalling (including reboot of the host) 10+ times14:47
MastakillaI tried with or without LVM14:48
MastakillaI tried unmounting the iso in vmware14:48
Mastakillaetc14:48
Mastakillanothing helps... it always freezes14:48
Mastakillabtw: I think it freezes even before it starts the reboot14:49
MastakillaI just tried pressing ctrl-c and then it proceeds... 0.5 seconds later it actually starts the reboot14:50
Mastakillaso it looks like the ubuntu installer fails to shut down14:50
ZeeeljkoCan someone tell me is tehere any which i can control my server on shell such as using, adding users, modifying their configuration of shell14:52
Zeeeljkopanel or somethign like that14:52
ducasseZeeeljko: ssh?14:52
Zeeeljkoducasse its ok :) i mean something like web panel14:53
Southern_Gentlemyuck14:53
one808%3D314:53
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Southern_GentlemZeeeljko,  you could always log into it and use or remote desktop but adding the gui on a server ends up adding alot of attack serfaces for vulnerbilities14:54
ZeeeljkoSouthern_Gentlem i dont have remote desktop14:54
Zeeeljkofor my vps14:54
Zeeeljkodude14:54
Southern_Gentlemtunnel vnc over ssh for security14:54
Zeeeljkovps14:55
Zeeeljkonot vnc14:55
Southern_Gentlemvps is a server which you can run vnc dude14:55
ZeeeljkoSouthern_Gentlem ok, but let me see how can i adduser with, for example : 50mb ssd, 128mb ram..etc..14:55
Zeeeljkoif you know what i mean14:56
Zeeeljkohow can control users and all14:56
ducasseZeeeljko: ssh is the best and easiest way14:56
Southern_Gentlemssh is the most secure14:56
Zeeeljkoducasse i know what you mean, but i think any web panel14:56
Zeeeljkosomething like that14:56
ducasseZeeeljko: there aren't any that i know of14:56
ducasseZeeeljko: and anyway you should learn to use the cli14:57
Southern_Gentlemnow your vps provider may provide a web interface14:57
ZeeeljkoSouthern_Gentlem i have web interface14:58
Zeeeljkobut i never see users on them14:58
Zeeeljko;)14:58
boboliuadduser passwd done14:58
Zeeeljkolol14:58
Zeeeljkoi know how to adduser14:59
Zeeeljkobut i dont want that user use all my SSD storage14:59
Zeeeljkoi want to give them up to 100,200mb14:59
ducasseZeeeljko: use quotas14:59
Zeeeljkoducasse how14:59
Southern_Gentlemso you want to set quota14:59
Zeeeljkoi want as web panel14:59
Zeeeljkoi dont know use that from ssh14:59
arakashHi. I just installed ubuntu on my friends PC and need some help troubleshooting. Grub as well as ubuntu is very laggy and ubuntu has no keyboard input.15:00
ducasseZeeeljko: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/disk-quota/15:00
Zeeeljkoducasse15:01
Zeeeljkoweb interface15:01
Zeeeljkonot ssh15:01
boboliuyou want a web interface? Why not do it your self?15:01
ducasseZeeeljko: told you, there aren't any, at least not any good ones15:01
Zeeeljkoit must be anywhere15:02
ducasseZeeeljko: why?15:02
Zeeeljkoits easiest way to controls your users from web15:02
Zeeeljkojust click click add remove15:02
ducasseZeeeljko: everybody just uses ssh, _that_ is the easiest way on linux.15:02
Zeeeljkoyou also can modify your web hosting but cPanel is easiest way to do that15:02
Zeeeljkoi dont know to use that on that way15:02
Zeeeljkoso i want web panel15:02
ducasseZeeeljko: and i've told you, we can't give you what does not exist15:03
boboliuif you don't like them, create something instead.15:03
Zeeeljkoit exists15:03
Zeeeljko100%15:03
ducasseZeeeljko: if you know that, why ask us?15:04
ZeeeljkoHow do i have vps web interface to set up server on vps15:04
boboliumaybe you can find it on github15:04
Zeeeljkobut i dont have users section15:04
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boboliuZeeeljko: "to set up server on vps"? so what do you need?15:06
Zeeeljkoboboliu15:07
ducasseZeeeljko: vps providers leave managing the server up to you, so they don't provide management tools for generic admin duties15:07
Zeeeljkoto manage my server through web panel15:07
Zeeeljkoducasse i want to manage my shell users15:08
boboliuI know there is a user&traffice control module on a chinese vps control panel, but it's for proxy.15:08
Zeeeljkotheir storages etc...15:08
Zeeeljkosomething like that15:08
Zeeeljkohttps://code.google.com/archive/p/ovz-web-panel/15:08
Elec_AHi, when I execute "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it will sometimes, reduce the version of some packages. have you ever had this issue? is it normal ?15:08
mikecmpbllis it possible to restrict ssh access, for a particular user, to a particular host?15:08
\9mikecmpbll: yes -- http://serverfault.com/a/20739215:11
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boboliuZeeeljko: There's a lot of web control panels. but it's all for web service, like this: http://vestacp.com/15:11
mikecmpbll\9 : sweet. can i make that specific to a local user?15:11
mikecmpblli.e. can only ssh to user_a from host_a. any other user no restriction15:12
NarevHey guys, your advice worked and I got my system back.15:12
mikecmpblloh, i misunderstood the option.15:12
NarevJust wanted to thank all who helped.15:13
mikecmpbll\9 : thanks!15:13
boboliuZeeeljko: It's hard to control disk usage for your shell users, why not try to provide OpenVZ vps instead of shell logins?15:13
Zeeeljkobobe15:14
Zeeeljkoajenti is whati want :)15:15
Zeeeljkosuccessfully installed :)15:15
Zeeeljkofull control of my server via 8000 port15:15
Zeeeljkousing web15:15
Vestesqlut15:18
lucidguyOk, when I het ~. It types out ~. .. not the exit/kill response of ssh or ipmitool .. what am I doing wrong?15:19
\9mikecmpbll: no problem15:20
\9lucidguy: where are you typing that?15:24
Vestei am french15:26
Vesteca va les pd15:27
ducasse!fr | Veste15:27
ubottuVeste: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:27
AlexPortableHow do I setup SSD trim?15:27
Jharmhello everyone, ran into a new issue after setting up OpenVPN for the first time. I was a to set up server side configurations but after moved the .ovpn to targeted device ( in my case the device is android and the app is OpenVPN Connect). after i try to import the files i get this error: Error parsing OpenVPN profile: client.ovpn: option_error: option <key> was not properly closed out. not sure which file i need to look at to correct this,15:27
Jharm any suggestions?15:27
Vestewesh15:28
boboliuAlexPortable: http://www.howtogeek.com/176978/ubuntu-doesnt-trim-ssds-by-default-why-not-and-how-to-enable-it-yourself/ why not google first?15:29
AlexPortableboboliu: well maybe those articles are old15:30
ducasselucidguy: try ~~.15:31
boboliuno matter how old, it's usable.15:32
faLUCEhello, On 16.04  the screen flickers often (and stop flickering when I change the current window) with this error:    [drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun15:33
faLUCEhow can I fix that?15:33
ducasseAlexPortable: you won't know if they are old until you look at them15:33
Jharmany help?15:36
BluesKajfaLUCE, try your highest render setting in GLX options,3.1 for example15:36
faLUCEBluesKaj: where can I set these options?15:38
faLUCEIs there a gui util?15:38
Jharmhello everyone, ran into a new issue after setting up OpenVPN for the first time. I was a to set up server side configurations but after moved the .ovpn to targeted device ( in my case the device is android and the app is OpenVPN Connect). after i try to import the files i get this error: Error parsing OpenVPN profile: client.ovpn: option_error: option <key> was not properly closed out. not sure which file i need to look at to correct this,15:39
Jharm any suggestions?15:39
AlexPortableducasse: true15:40
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boboliufaLUCE: This bug has found since 2015, but it hadn't solved until now. see: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95461 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/155077915:40
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 95461 in Video(DRI - Intel) "[drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]15:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1550779 in linux (Ubuntu) "[i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun - Xorg glitches" [Medium,Incomplete]15:40
AlexPortableis it possible to install a system, and then export the choices I made during install to use as a preseed?15:41
faLUCEboboliu: I don't understand if is there workaround15:41
boboliufaLUCE: actually, there is not. perhaps reinstall or change a kernel will solve it.15:43
BluesKajfaLUCE, depends on your DE, wherever your screen resolution and compositor asettings are located15:44
faLUCEboboliu: it appears strange to me15:44
faLUCEBluesKaj: I use lxde15:44
faLUCEBluesKaj: in the monitor settings GUI I can change the resolution and refresh rate15:46
BluesKajfa sorry, I'm not familar with lxde on ubuntu15:46
faLUCEshould I change refersh rate?15:46
BluesKajfaLUCE,^15:46
inrahello everyone, I am on a ubuntu derivative, and there is no channel for my OS, so asking here, hoping it's fine..I cant create multiple instances of firefox, which is possible in my ubuntu systems. when I run the same commands, I just always get new windows of the same instance. so I think it's got to do with the particular OS.could you have any suggestion to implement, if you had such a problem before?15:46
BluesKajthe renderer backend faLUCE , GLX seting15:47
ducasseinra: we don't support derivatives, try ##linux15:47
_adbhello. has anyone been through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch lately? it mentions "There is a current (for Karmic, Lucid, ..., Precise) issue with services running in a chroot:" and links to an upstart bug. i'm on 16.04, so using systemd. no problems yet -- just curious what trouble i'm getting into.15:48
ducasse_adb: that wiki page might be outdated, too many are unfortunately15:49
inraducasse, ok, thank you15:50
_adbthanks ducasse, i'll just give it a shot and see how far i get15:51
inragreat, #linux channel is invite-only. can anyone invite me please?15:51
inralinux as exclusive club. whose great idea it was15:51
ducasse!register | inra15:51
ubottuinra: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.15:51
inraducasse, it is registered15:51
ducasseinra: _you_ need to be15:52
inraif it weren't, it wouldn't be cloaked, right?15:52
phos1How do i set default owner and permissons when files are uploaded? I have 2 users uploading files, and we keep having to chown / CHMOD to our shared group so we can both edit15:52
inrait is clearly not about registration.15:53
inrachannel is invite only, it says15:53
_adbphos1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setuid_and_setgid_on_directories15:53
ducasseinra: i didn't look. i've had no problems joining, nor have i heard anyone else having any. try ##linux-ops, maybe, or #freenode.15:54
_adb#linux vs ##linux ?15:54
tgm4883inra: yea you probably want ##linux  not sure why you weren't just redirected there15:55
phos1_abd: Thanks! That worked perfectly15:57
phos1_abd: actually that did owner properly, but not permissons on the file. It’s set to 644 which won’t let me write it, I need 664 (as it’s a shared group)15:57
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_adbphos1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask15:58
inratgm4883, thank you! it was that15:59
lucidguyducasse: thanks, I found it worked, I just had to do it really quickly.15:59
_adbphos1: alternatively, http://askubuntu.com/questions/44534/how-to-set-umask-for-a-specific-folder15:59
DolphinDreamhowdy16:10
DolphinDreamis there a problem if i set my default python (in ubuntu 16.04) to be 3.5 instead of 2.7 ? will some apps not work ?16:10
ducasseDolphinDream: there's a lot of system stuff that uses python2.7 that is not tested with python3, it might break16:14
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{Dolphin}Hello. :)16:20
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Kevin`how can I tell networkmanager which serial port to use for a cellular modem? it's conspicuously missing from the settings for a 'mobile broadband' connection16:26
ilmaisinhi16:29
ilmaisinhow i can enable beep on gnome-terminal16:29
ilmaisini do not want the pc beep but some nice sound card "bling" sound16:30
ioriailmaisin,  ( speaker-test -t sine -f 1000 )& pid=$! ; sleep 0.2s ; kill -9 $pid16:32
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ilmaisinioria: my speakers are functioning16:32
ioriailmaisin,  so, run it16:33
Guest42623#ubuntu-es16:33
ilmaisinioria: why? what will it do?16:33
ioriailmaisin,  beep/bling16:33
ilmaisinioria: but how can i make a sound to play when the terminal encounters the beep character?16:34
ioriailmaisin,  ohh... that is in the gnome-terminal preferences16:34
ioriailmaisin,  but idt it's working properly anymore16:36
ilmaisinioria: yeah, i noticed it16:36
ilmaisinwhy everything has to be always broken...16:36
ioriailmaisin,  i think it tries to ring an internal computer speaker, that not exists anymore16:37
ilmaisinioria: now i found the solution https://www.rohanjain.in/bell/16:39
ilmaisinwonder why it isn't enable by default16:39
ioriailmaisin,  ant it works for the gnome-terminal bell ?16:40
zangHey, anyone has tips about testing mpi on beowolf cluster?16:40
rizonzis anyone able to check if 'PDF::OCR', 'PDF::OCR2' are available from cpan for Ubuntu ?16:40
zangi m having some irregularities16:40
zangsome nodes are crashing16:42
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ioriailmaisin,  hurra ! sudo modprobe pcspkr16:45
ioriailmaisin,  but is very feeble16:45
ducassezang: this is probably not the best channel for that, ##linux might be better16:46
zangtx i will try ther16:47
ioriailmaisin,  idk why it's not loaded by default16:47
apetrescAre some of the mirrors down right now or something? I'm suddenly getting "E: Failed to Fetch, 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.162 80]" even after an apt-get update.16:49
apetrescThis is on an archive.ubuntu.com mirror16:49
ducasseapetresc: wouldn't be the first time a mirror was down. try another one or wait.16:52
apetrescducasse: okay, thanks. These are docker container builds that are failing, though, so it's not quite that trivial to switch mirrors, haha :) I guess I'll wait a bit.16:53
apetrescOoh actually I think the problem is that the apt-get update call had been cached by Docker and it was only the new -install that was therefore using the outdated mirror. Whoops!16:54
ioriaapetresc, that ip is http://yukinko.canonical.com/   , do you have it in your sources.list ?16:54
apetrescYeah, seems to be working now. false alarm!16:55
apetresc(now that I forced it not to use the cache)16:55
an-usahi have a problem with the X16:55
an-usahi can't normally copy content16:55
an-usahand i tested the thing on KDE and also on XFCE, same "bug"16:56
geniiapetresc: If repo changes apt won't know until the APT::Archives::MinAge and APT::Archives::MaxAge  default values are met16:56
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SlabDabswoo, i should have a think pad arriving today to ubuntu up17:05
jp_kill me now. sighs..... I don't know why but I get in my syslog entres like this  kernel: [ 1397.196010] iptables DROPPED: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:50:56:01:217:07
jp_there are two servers in the same subnet and I have a little pythone http server on port 80 on server A. On Server B I can't curl that service at all17:07
jp_from server A I can curl to local ip address and get a response17:07
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jp_I turned of firewal using ufw disable (I am on ubuntu)17:07
jp_I checked iptables -L and everything says open17:08
jp_I don't know what else is wrong17:08
jp_can anyone help?17:08
funkyheadgirlubuntu 16.04. my firefox got messed and and needed to reinstal but it's not working17:12
w9qbjI've updated to 16.04, net questions - how/where do I enter nameservers - 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4  (Not at all like 14.04)17:12
ZoderUckhow to i put  a standalone script in an rc.d level ?  is that with symlinks ?17:13
naccjp_: is server listening on localhost:80 or <ip>:80? When you curl on A, which address did you use to test?17:14
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naccjp_: do you get that iptables output on every curl?17:14
ARTF2hi17:14
jp_@nacc the local ip address on the box, yes there is a service listening and is shown in netstat --listen17:15
jp_@nacc I did'nt understand the second question17:15
naccjp_: to be clear, which do you mean by "local ip"? 127.0.0.1?17:16
jp_ip address on eth0 something like 10.0.0.10117:16
naccjp_: you mentioned a 'iptables dropped' line in syslog. Does that happen every time you curl from B to A?17:17
jp_say server a has 10.0.0.101 and server b has 10.0.0.10017:17
w9qbjAlso, How do I ifconfig to a static address on startup ?17:17
naccjp_: ok17:17
jp_yes17:17
jp_however I don't know whats causing it17:17
ducassew9qbj: set it up in /etc/network/interfaces - 'man interfaces'17:18
funkyheadgirlhow can i remove javascript?17:19
jp_nacc - http://pastebin.com/C8Tyfu0W17:19
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naccjp_: um, don't you have a 'DROP all' line?17:21
jp_nope17:21
naccjp_: literally in your paste just now.17:21
naccjp_: line 1217:21
jp_sorry wrong server17:22
jp_one second17:22
jp_nacc http://pastebin.com/Ki73vBkS . - ps it shou;d'nt matter since I already did ufw disable17:24
jp_which should turn off the firewall and not use the iptables17:24
josekihello everyone! i've managed to loose a disk label and wanted to see if anyone could help troubleshoot. it's a san/multipath setup17:24
josekibasically, i don't have a "real" UUID - /dev/mapper/mpatha-part1: PARTLABEL="primary" PARTUUID="1ce65b62-23a6-4ab7-9307-fd8b637e286f"17:25
miniluxhi i am new to ubuntu any patient people who can help me with some stuff17:25
minilux?17:25
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josekiseems like i could "mklable loop" but i think that will cause me to loose data17:25
ducasse!ask | Shadstarn17:25
ubottuShadstarn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:25
naccjp_: ... that also has DROP?17:26
naccjp_: while I understand that you turned off ufw, if `iptables -L` is listing running rules, that absolutely matters17:27
Shadstarnhow can i install themes on ubuntu mate... all i isntall do not work...17:27
Shadstarni am frustrated beyond reason17:27
Shadstarnalso how can i make things bigger without touching the resolution of the screen17:27
naccjoseki: what do you mean by "lose a label"?17:28
hoagiesShad, I'm sure you can find a lot of videos on Youtube which explain such matters in detail.17:28
Shadstarnhmm17:29
Shadstarnokaj you are right17:29
naccShadstarn: what did you try and what happens?17:29
Shadstarni will try there first17:29
Shadstarni love linux already17:29
naccShadstarn: and have you looked at the accessibility options? I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "make things bigger"?17:30
jp_nacc your awsome17:30
jp_nacc thank you17:30
naccjp_: that was the issue, I assume?17:30
jp_nacc yes17:31
jp_thank you17:31
ilmaisinlol i looked at the bug report of the problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/76931417:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 769314 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)" [High,In progress]17:31
naccjp_: tbh, i don't exactly understand how ufw and iptables inter-relate, but always trust what your system tells you (and never trust scripts (including init scripts)) to be 100% correct :)17:31
ilmaisinit's just over a half decade old, no hurry...17:31
josekinacc: there isn't a UUID for the partition, but there is a PARTUUID17:31
elias_aWhat video player can play multiple video files in an endless loop without showing filenames or other extra things but the video itself?17:32
ioriailmaisin,   did you  sudo modprobe pcspkr ?  i'am using unity and it works17:32
{Dolphin}elias_a i think you can do this with vlc17:33
naccjoseki: even in /dev/disk/by-uuid ?17:34
{Dolphin}https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-loop-a-video-in-a-vlc-player17:34
josekinacc: nope17:34
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josekinacc: I just unmounted it, resized via multipath and then increased the disk size via parted17:35
josekinacc: increased meaning "rm 1" and then mkpart17:35
w9qbjOne more Q - I'll admit my eyes are not as young as they once were. How do I set a LARGE mouse-arrow-pointer - bigger than the 'stock' ones17:36
tekeli-li*sigh*17:36
naccjoseki: i really don't know, sorry17:37
elias_a{Dolphin}: You are not answering my question. I have multiple files. Loop = play again beginning from 1st file. And VLC shows the filename in the background by default.17:37
tekeli-liI need to share a screenshot to explain my problem. Is there a preferred way to share images here?17:37
tekeli-lipaste.ubuntu.com doesn't support images as far as i know17:38
{Dolphin}elias_a elias_a make one alltogether video... or try one playlist17:38
tekeli-li(unless y'all want it base64 encoded i suppose)17:38
elias_a{Dolphin}: How would that help if the file name is still shown? :O17:39
nacc!paste | tekeli-li: i believe imgur:17:39
ubottutekeli-li: i believe imgur:: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:39
tekeli-linacc, thank you17:40
ducassew9qbj: you can change cursor theme and size, should be settings for it17:41
josekinacc: thanks. anywhere else where filesystem gurus might hangout?17:46
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w9qbjducasse, There are some, but not big enough17:48
naccjoseki: you might try #ubuntu-server, esp. because of multipath/san17:48
ducassew9qbj: then try to find a bigger one, i'm sure others have had the same problem17:49
w9qbjducasse,   That's why I'm asking here.17:50
ducassew9qbj: maybe there are some on gnome-look.org17:50
w9qbjdecoder,   Thanks, I'll look there.17:52
w9qbjducasse, thanks  Ti'' look there  - whoops sent to the wrong17:52
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daxgonna be a bit noisy with joins/parts for a bit folks17:56
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nicomachusway to go, dax17:57
daxhehe17:57
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BrochachoHi all, what exactly is 'history-daemon'? It's constantly maxing out a CPU core on my machine18:01
ducasseBrochacho: see 'apt show history-service'18:03
Brochachoducasse: Stores messages and calls, on my desktop?18:04
AlexPortableHow can I use preseed?18:05
AlexPortableauto url=http://192.168.1.1/preseed.txt should work no?18:05
lucidguyPLAY ***************************************************************************18:05
lucidguyTASK [setup] *******************************************************************18:05
lucidguyok: [r4b-33]18:05
lucidguyTASK [configure network interfaces] ********************************************18:05
lucidguychanged: [r4b-33]18:05
lucidguyTASK [Install list of packages] ************************************************18:05
ducasseBrochacho: are you using telepathy?18:06
ducasse!paste | lucidguy18:06
ubottulucidguy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:06
Guest47258{Dolphin}: Found it. 1) disable OSD in VLC and 2) loop a playlist.18:06
lucidguysorry about the flood18:07
lucidguyFrom my workstation I can ssh -A etc just fine into specific servers.  If I ssh into my workstation from  another box and try the -A to the box that always worked it no longer does.  It's something to do with an ssh  agent or something running, can someone remind how to resolve this?18:07
Brochachoducasse: Er, not sure? I'm using telegram and polari18:08
ducasseBrochacho: then telegram is probably what uses it.18:10
Brochachoducasse: It was polari18:15
fubHi. How do I install libc6-dbg:i386 on 16.04?18:18
AlexPortableauto url=http://192.168.1.1/preseed.txt should work no?18:18
roneivbcsudo apt-get install libc6-dbg:i38618:19
fubroneivbc: it's not found18:20
roneivbcIt worked for me.18:21
fubroneivbc: https://dpaste.de/tfcm18:22
DolphinDreamis there a problem if i set my default python (in ubuntu 16.04) to be 3.5 instead of 2.7 ? will some apps not work ?18:23
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tgm4883DolphinDream: as was mentioned before, probably yes. Why would you want to do that?18:24
roneivbcfub: maybe the repository is missing.18:24
ducasseDolphinDream: you've already asked that and got an answer18:24
fubroneivbc: I did a apt-get update before18:24
fubanything else I have to do?18:24
DolphinDreamoops. sorry.did not see the answer. my web irc client is kind of crappy (and i was afk)18:25
roneivbcfub: I think you should add a another repo18:25
tgm4883DolphinDream: in other words, don't do things just to do them18:25
cotinAnyone knows any webdev channels?18:25
DolphinDreamtgm4883: n0t just to do them. i wanted to use sublime for instance to do some py developement .. and want4ed to make sure that is using the 3.x and not the default .2718:26
fubroneivbc: found it18:26
fubdpkg --add-architecture i38618:26
fubthen apt-get update, then it is found..18:26
tgm4883DolphinDream: you want to make sure your scripts are using python 3?18:26
roneivbcfub: Yes ! I just found an article... lol18:27
DolphinDreamtgm4883: when i test my scripts i want to make sure they are executed using 3.5 yes. in terminal i can launch py3.5 of course to do that.. but sublime may need further settings to make sure it uses that by default (e.g. if i run scripts form sublime text)18:27
roneivbcfub: But I did not do this in my machine and it worked. Anyway...18:27
tgm4883DolphinDream: wouldn't you just specify python 3 in your first line?18:28
DolphinDreamah.. hm.. maybe :) i don't knw much about python . maybe you can.18:28
tgm4883DolphinDream: eg, #!/usr/bin/env python318:28
DolphinDreamnice tip. thx18:29
tgm4883DolphinDream: yw18:29
DolphinDreamtgm4883: is 3.5 not stable enough? why isnt it the default, btw?18:30
TrelHow do you define/use a variable in an systemd unit file?18:30
tgm4883DolphinDream: of the thousands of things that use python that are shipped with ubuntu, not all of them have been converted and tested with python 318:30
DolphinDreamahh.. thousands you say... hm. makes sense.18:32
jattTrel Environment=FOO=BAR18:34
tzfrsHi guys. I somehow destroyed my grub loader. I have a windows partition and an ubuntu partition, but can only boot into ubuntu. I already tried "sudo update-grub" and reinstalled grub, but still, only getting into windows. Any idea what I can do?18:34
tzfrsWhen I open /etc/default/grub it says "GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sdb1)"".18:35
cotinV18:36
tzfrsIt even tells me that I have Windows 10 loader installed18:39
tzfrsBut as soon as I launch my computer, I only get Ubuntu18:39
jattthat's good18:40
pwnsaunderhi18:40
geniitzfrs: Repair the Windows bootloader first, get it booting back into that. Then boot up to a livecd/dvd/usb and repair grub from that18:40
amstaffHi having an issue with an ubuntu server 16.04 LTS18:40
genii!mbr18:40
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:40
amstaffeverytime i connect with ssh18:40
amstaffI get same message 10 packages can be updated.18:40
amstaff7 updates are security updates.18:40
amstaffYes, i have already update and upgrade18:41
tzfrsCan't I somehow do it from Ubuntu? I don't have an USB-Stick anymore.18:41
geniitzfrs: You can, but it's far more work18:42
tzfrsok18:42
timbozemanI'm on trusty and I seem to be stuck on php 5.5.9. How can I get to 5.6 without bricking my computer?18:42
timbozemanI added this ppa:ondrej/php repo and tried apt-get install php5.6, but that doesn't seem to exist18:43
timbozemanwoops, nm user error. forgot to update18:44
pwnsaunder_lll18:49
genuine__I have a problem with my sound on my laptop. i installed lubuntu 16.04 any ideas?18:50
Simoniousanybody done any RS485 on ubuntu?18:51
jattwhat problem??18:51
genuine__theres no sound on my system. can anyone help?18:52
genuine__i have a sound problem on my laptop anyone can help?18:56
ouroumovhi genuine__18:57
genuine__hey18:57
ouroumovgenuine__, do you have multiple sound cards?18:57
genuine__no, and it is a laptop.18:57
ouroumovgenuine__, please provide the output of the command: lshw -C sound | nc termbin.com 999918:58
BluesKajgenuine__, open alsamixer in the terminal and increase the relevant volume ctls to 100% ,then on the fr right disable automute and make sure any vol ctls tou are using aren't muted with MM in the box, navigate to the ctls with arrow keys18:58
ceriongenuine__: state what is the problem18:58
genuine__ouroumov didnt work, says inaccurate or incomplete19:00
mrichmanHey everyone. I need to split up a large log file where each line contains a thread ID, i.e. "2017-02-03 12:25:22.5175|71|Error|blahblahblah". The value "71" in there is the thread ID. I'd like to split this file up, writing each line corresponding to its thread ID to its own file.19:01
genuine__BluesKaj, i opened alsamixer but i cant increase the sound or decrease it19:01
Simonioushttp://www.waveshare.com/rs485-can-cape.htm how do I use RS485 on this cape under ubuntu?19:01
genuine__cerion, sound not working on my laptop19:01
* Simonious keeps poking at it19:01
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genuine__ouroumov, worked19:04
genuine__Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.1719:04
genuine__usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]19:04
genuine__       lshw -version19:04
genuine__-version        print program version (B.02.17)19:04
genuine__format can be19:04
ouroumovgenuine__, that's what happen when you post output to the chan. Please use the exact command I gave and provide only the resulting URL.19:06
genuine__ops sorry.19:06
jeffreylevesquehow can i check if xinetd is installed?19:07
BluesKajgenuine__, use the up/down arrow keys to increase/decrese19:07
genuine__http://termbin.com/828w19:07
AlexPortableauto url=http://192.168.1.1/preseed.txt should work no?19:08
genuine__BluesKaj, theres nothing to increase or decrease19:08
ouroumovgenuine__, it appears you have two sound cards. Please check the "hardware" tab of the sound preferences dialog.19:08
simon2hey, what to do when i have different cursor themes on desktop/x root window and when i hover applications?19:09
genuine__BluesKaj, i checked the second one. which should work i see how to increase and decrease now.19:09
BluesKajgenuine__, in alsamixer use F6 to choose the soundcard19:09
genuine__done19:09
BluesKajok19:09
genuine__increased to 10019:10
genuine__still no sound19:10
BluesKajnow navigate to the far right and use the down arrow key to disable automute19:10
BluesKajgenuine__,^19:11
genuine__ok19:11
genuine__done19:11
genuine__auto-mut disabled19:12
BluesKajnow 'escape' then do, sudo alsactl store19:12
nathan77I have Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop19:12
nathan77I bought a TL-WN821N(EU) V5.019:12
nathan77It does not work as expected. I was told by a computer chop that this adapter works out of box, for Linux, but it seems not.19:12
nathan77I followed a few User helps on Ubuntu forums to try get it running.19:12
nathan77Currently using my laptop as a Wired Internet Hub (shared networking over cable connection)19:12
nathan77My aim is to have my Desktop as a standalone computer.19:12
nathan77Can anyone help?19:12
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nathan77Sorry. Didn't realise each new line would flood.19:13
genuine__BluesKaj, nothing much happened19:14
simon2nathan77: have you installed the linux drivers?19:14
genuine__i typed sudo alsactl store then put my password19:14
simon2nathan77: http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/TL-WN821N_V4.html#Driver19:14
nathan77Yes. I tried that first19:14
Guest78078Just got here and don't know what is happening19:14
nathan77I can start again if you are willing and have the time19:14
AlexPortableanyone can help me with preseed?19:15
simon2nathan77: how did you install them and can you confirm that they are installed?19:15
nathan77simon2: I'll have another look19:16
ZoderUckhow to i put  a standalone script in an rc.d level ?  is that with symlinks ?19:18
BluesKajgenuine, run  sudo modprobe, then sudo alsa force-reload19:18
genuine__BluesKaj, :P19:18
genuine__don't give up on me lol19:19
geniiZoderUck: There aren't really any runlevels any more. Just 0, 2-5, and 619:19
ZoderUckuh19:19
geniiZoderUck: 2 through 5 are all just really 319:19
BluesKajgenuine__, oops correction sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, then sudo alsa force-reload19:19
ZoderUckwell it is for proftpd19:19
genuine__ok19:19
ZoderUckand i did see it does not start after reboot19:19
nathan77simon2: I cannot confirm that the drivers are installed. I followed the Installation for linux Driver, which is located in that driver zipfile. I got lost in following the instructions. Their version is for 14.04.119:19
ZoderUckit is ubuntu 14.04 yes19:19
AlexPortableHow do I start ubuntu install with preseed file?19:20
genuine__my pc isnt intel tho19:20
BluesKajno but your audio chip is intel, genuine__19:20
ZoderUckwas there a systemd to control  rcd level ?19:20
rajivmarswhat is the difference between the commands "uname -a" and "uname -r"?19:20
genuine__oh interesting19:21
Brochachorajivmars: See uname --help19:21
ZoderUckgenii, what shouljd i do first to find why proftpd is not restart ?19:21
geniiSorry, forgot runlevel 119:21
ZoderUckgenii, ok, but  there is a command ? to add a service in to correct level, i forgot19:21
ducasseZoderUck: iirc 14.04 uses update-rc.d19:21
geniiZoderUck: Check in /etc/default directory for a proftp file and see if it's disabled by default19:21
rajivmarsBrochacho, yeah got it. thanks:)19:22
genuine__what's next BluesKaj19:22
geniiZoderUck: If it's not disabled by default in there, then look at syntax of update-rc.d19:22
ZoderUckgenii: aha, wait, where should i look?  it concerns proftpd   it needs to start whenever the system does have a reboot and,  if pssible if proftpd is stopped accidently it should be restarted.19:23
nathan77how do I find out if my linux kernel supports 802.11? I would have thought that Ubuntu 16.04 already does.19:29
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geniiZoderUck: If there is a file in /etc/default called something like proftp  then check it does not contain a line like: ENABLED=0  ...if it does, change the 0 to a 1 and then restart proftpd with sudo service proftp restart   ( or sudo service proftp start)19:30
geniiZoderUck: If there is no relevant line like that in a file in /etc/default  then add it to the automatic startup services using something like sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults19:31
* genii runs back to work19:32
genuine__BluesKaj, xD no sound still19:36
Simonious44e09000.serial: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x44e09000 (irq = 158, base_baud = 3000000) is a 8250 <-does this support an enable pin?19:36
ZoderUckwhat ?19:39
ZoderUcknobody here uses ubuntu ?19:39
genuine__everyone here does19:40
heshamhelli19:40
heshamhello19:40
heshamquit19:40
heshamhello19:40
heshamseb19:40
Bashing-omhesham: Welcome to ubuntu support . ask your question .19:41
al8989hello i just upgraded to kubuntu 16.04 from 14.04 by doing a clean fresh install and everything seems to be working fine, but need to know how to turn off the annoying login screen that appears after i leave my computer for a few minutes19:41
nathan77I have Ubuntu 16.04. I'm trying to install the linux drivers for TL-WN821N(EU)_V5 from TL's website. (here - http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/TL-WN821N_V5.html#Driver ). "An error occured while extracting files" Any fix I've tried to get beyond this, has not worked. Can anyone help19:41
ioriaal8989,  SystemSettings -> brightness & lock19:46
nathan77al8989: does this help?  "It's very similar in KDE 4.1  System Settings -> Advanced ->  Login Manager -> Convenience and there is the option "Enable  Auto-Login"   "    19:46
ioriaal8989,  ho, sorry kde19:47
ZoderUckgenii, did havea look in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf  and there was no line enabled=0 or 119:47
ZoderUckthat was an advise not in the right directrion lol19:48
al8989oh sorry im using kde desktop19:48
ZoderUckhello19:48
al8989i'll try that nathan19:48
ioriaal8989,  check also Workspace > Desktop Behavior > Screen Locking > uncheck Lock screen option.19:49
al8989didn't work nathan already have auto logon checked19:51
ZoderUckhi19:51
al8989oioria: i'll try that19:51
ZoderUckwhere do configure proftpd to  start whenever the whole system reboots ?19:51
Southern_Gentlemsystemctl enable servicename19:51
ducasseZoderUck: he said to look in /etc/default, not /etc/proftpd19:52
geniiZoderUck: NOT /etc/proftpd  /etc/default/proftp19:52
geniiZoderUck: Note the path contains the word "default"19:52
ZoderUckupdate-rc.d proftpd  how do i get the current state  ?19:53
al8989ioria: thanks thats what I was looking for don't know why i did not see it19:53
ZoderUckgenii, yes you are right19:53
ZoderUckbut how do i get a list of all rc.d ?19:53
geniiZoderUck: sudo service --status-all19:55
Guest65824how can i determine if i have a keylogger in my system?19:57
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shambatI'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm copying some files between harddrives, and it's very slow. I'm getting this over and over in my dmesg: https://hastebin.com/izixekibok.css /dev/sde is the device I'm writing to. My drives are attached via a LSI Fusion MPT SAS2 controller card.19:57
shambatmy cpus are also spending a lot of time in "wait"19:58
maltushi19:58
ioriaal8989, you're welcome20:00
Apachezit seems like gcc/gpp and the other compile tools are included with "ubuntu-desktop", is there some way to uninstall them without having "ubuntu-desktop" to get ripped away by apt at the same time?20:04
ioriashambat, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-xenial/+bug/163083720:04
geniiApachez: The package build-essential20:04
Apachezshambat: same thing if you would boot on a 16.10 image? what does "additional drivers" tell you - any options there?20:04
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1630837 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1630837). The error has been logged20:04
Apachezgenii: so removing that would remove all gcc etc but leave ubuntu-desktop intact?20:05
nathan77How do I find out my pc architecture?20:05
ioriahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-xenial/+bug/163083720:05
SeveasApachez: sudo apt-get remove gcc20:05
geniiApachez: ubuntu-desktop is only a virtual package anyways20:05
ApachezSeveas: doesnt work, apt wants to remove ubuntu-desktop at the same time20:05
Apachezand by that gnome and everything gets ripped out20:05
SeveasApachez: doesn't do so here.20:05
SeveasApachez: pastebin the full output please20:05
Seveas(the output before you hit n to cancel)20:06
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inrahello everyone, I have an older version of python, and I installed the newer version from python website. but still the older version is shown. is it ok just to delete it?20:09
inraand will the newest version be shown if I just remove the old one?20:09
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Seveasinra: deleting the ubuntu-provided python is a very bad idea.20:10
ducassean-usah: there is no 100% certain way, they tend to hide well (obviously)20:10
Seveasas long as you install your special python into /usr/local, you can use it just fine. But don't install into /usr.20:10
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inraSeveas, which is why I wanted to make sure..so keep them both, then?20:11
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Seveasinra: yes.20:11
inraok, thank you!20:11
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inrais there a way to upgrade the ubuntu-provided version?20:11
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inrato the latest one, I mean?20:11
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ducasseinra: then it wouldn't be ubuntu-provided20:12
Seveasinra: upgrade Ubuntu :)20:12
an-usahducasse i have this issue, i need to copy things twice in order to properly copy them, e.g, if i copy text in libreoffice, and press ctrl+c once it copies it but plain text, if i copy it twice i get the format and can paste properly in other place20:12
inraSeveas, so 16.10. has the latest python but 16.04. not?20:12
k1linra: what ubuntu is in use? what python do you need exactly?20:13
an-usahit makes no sense, that i need to double copy things to copy them with format20:13
inrak1l, I have 16.04, and it has python 2.7.6, while I need python 2.7.1320:13
an-usahit also happens with the mouse or ctrl+ins20:13
k1linra: do you need it? for features or a bugfix?20:14
Seveas16.10 has 2.7.1220:14
an-usaha right click copy copies just the text in plain format, but copying again, viola! it gets the format too20:14
an-usahit makes no sense at all :/20:14
inrak1l, it is required for an install20:14
ducasse!enter | an-usah20:14
ubottuan-usah: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.20:14
an-usahok, ok20:15
inrak1l, actually I need the current pip, but it shows the pip version in the old python, so I thought about upgrading python20:15
Seveasinra: why do you need a newer pip than Ubuntu provides? I've never had a problem with the ubuntu-provided pip20:16
Seveasany specific package you're trying to install?20:16
k1linra: ok, so now we come to the real issue. what is the root of your issue?20:16
Talchehi all20:18
inrak1l, I dont know if this will become an issue, but the install guide shows the pip version as 8.1.1. whereas mine shows 1.5.420:18
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Talchehmmm... anyone here knows something bout ddns, mx records and maybe about a mailserver not working ? :D20:19
Seveas!info python-pip xenial20:20
ubottupython-pip (source: python-pip): alternative Python package installer. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.1.1-2ubuntu0.4 (xenial), package size 140 kB, installed size 620 kB20:20
Seveasinra: I don't know where you grabbed pip from, but Ubuntu provides 8.1.120:20
naccSeveas: maybe they are on trusty20:20
inraSeveas, oops20:20
Seveasnacc: not according to their earlier info :)20:20
ioriainra,  apt-cache policy  python-pip20:20
inrasorry, my dumb..I am currently on 14.04.1, not 16.04.20:21
k1linra: what is "lsb_release -sd" in terminal?20:21
Seveasinra: ah, then it's time to upgrade Ubuntu :)20:21
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nathan77btest-ubuntu20:24
inrathe thing is, my OS is a derivative, built on ubuntu 14.04., so I dont know if I can safely upgrade it, if at all20:24
nathan77rec-win720:24
ioriainra,  and why do you use a derivative ? any special reason ?20:25
Apachezprevious LTS?20:25
inraioria, I like the distro20:25
ioriai see20:25
Seveasinra: then it's time to go find support in the support channels of that derivative :)20:25
Apachezwhats the distro name?20:25
inraSeveas, if it had one20:25
k1linra: then ask the support of that derivate how to solve that issue20:26
inrain no time comes the warning 'this-is-not-your-distros-channel-go-ask-there'...guys, everything in the distro is ubuntu, only the skin is different20:26
Seveasinra: unfortunately that's nonsense. We don't know in which ways they broke it. We know what Ubuntu breaks :)20:27
ioriainra,  are you using the Ubuntu Satanic Edition ? :þ20:27
inrayeah20:27
shambatApachez: how should I test it? Update to 16.10? I don't have X installed (its a server), so is there an "additional drivers" option there?20:27
nathan77bhow do I read this? ..."/wifi2/Driver/include/hal_com.h:413:13:"  <--- What are the numbers on the end of that file?20:27
Seveasnathan77b: line and character20:28
ioriainra,  this one ? http://ubuntusatanic.org/download.php ... really ???20:28
Apachezline 413, 13 spaces in?20:28
inraioria, I thought it was a joke20:28
ioriainra,  lol20:28
nathan77bso if there's an error, these numbers tells me where, in that file?20:28
inrarecently I'd read about religious derivatives20:29
ioriainra,  true20:29
k1linra: we can only support what is shipped by standard ubuntu and its flavors in here. if its just another wallpaper then instll ubuntu and use that wallpaper. but since its not only that, go and ask them.20:29
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k1land if they dont offer support, but you need support ask in ##linux or think about using a distro that  got better support.20:30
inrahaha, k1l, wallpaper? :)) who installs a whole distro for a wallpaper?20:30
Seveastoo many people.20:30
ouroumovyup20:30
inraok20:30
k1linra: you just said you do to get ubunut support in here.20:30
nathan77bThanks Seveas20:30
inrak1l, did I say I installed something for wallpaper?20:32
k1linra: you said you use your non ubuntu only because of the nice theme. but we are spoiling this channel for other ubuntu users. so please go to your distros support or ##linux20:33
daxor stop using crackpot derivatives20:33
simon2hey, any idea what's up when you have one cursor theme hovering on desktop/x root window and another theme when i hovering applications?20:34
Talchehmmm ubuntu server users allowed here ?20:34
daxTalche: yes20:34
Talchei mean newbies, not users :)20:34
Seveasdax: not all derivatives are crackpots :)20:34
nathan77bwould you guys help here for some coding in ubuntu?20:35
Treljatt: is the enviornment part necessary if my only goal is to use it during the start command?20:35
k1lsimon2: you are running programs as root on the desktop?20:35
inrak1l, oh gosh, how on earth you made it up? I only said I liked the distro as an answer to the respective question20:35
simon2k1l: nope thats not it, the only difference is on the desktop, the cursor is normal everywhere else20:35
Seveassimon2: applications can set which cursor they want to show. Maybe whatever is running on your root window wants something special20:36
Seveassimon2: what do you have on your root window?20:36
simon2Seveas: its the other way around, its the root window that is different20:36
simon2Seveas: nothing, just a background imagfe20:36
Seveassimon2: there has to be something running to render that. e.g. in normal ubuntu it's nautilus I believe (though last time I knew for sure that it was nautilus is pre-compiz)20:37
simon2Seveas: ah, that's possible, can i find out?20:37
Seveasnathan77b: programming is a bit OT here, there are more appropriate channels. Also, since it often requires the exchange of large parts of code/output, something like stack overflow is often better suited for programming questions.20:38
k1lsimon2: what desktop is it?20:38
nathan77bThanks Seveas20:38
ducassenathan77b: use alis to find a channel for your language20:38
ducasse!alis | nathan77b20:38
ubottunathan77b: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"20:38
simon2k1l: what do you mean? desktop enviornment, window manager or if something is running on the root window?20:39
nathan77bducasse: I'm trying to solve issues one by one. All im trying to do is get a wireless adapter running on U16.0420:39
k1lyes, on what setup do you experience this behavior? i dont get it at all20:39
Seveassimon2: the output of xwininfo -root -children on my system (ubuntu 16.10) makes me think it's still nautils.20:40
simon2k1l: ubuntu with i3 ontop20:40
Seveassimon2: ok, so definitely something i3 related then20:41
Seveasas it'll want to take over that function20:41
simon2Seveas:20:41
simon2xwininfo: Window id: 0x1e4 (the root window) "i3"    Root window id: 0x1e4 (the root window) "i3"   Parent window id: 0x0 (none)20:41
ducassesimon2: did you relogin after changing cursor theme?20:41
Seveasyeah20:41
ducassei3 has nothing to do with cursor theme.20:41
simon2ducasse: yea rebooted, can see the cursor theme change everywhere except on the desktop20:41
Seveascheck the i3 preferences20:41
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simon2Seveas: nothing obvious in the i3 config20:42
reki was stuck at starting hotplug subsystem then i hit ctrl+c at the point i was used to get stuck and i could continue the installation.... what is ctrl+c generally for?20:42
ducassesimon2: where did you set cursor theme?20:43
Seveasrek: for crudely killing something that is stuck20:43
simon2ducasse: tried both /etc/X11/Xresources/x11-common and ~/.Xresources20:43
rekSeveas lol i hope my system is ok20:43
simon2ducasse: and it does work, like i said earlier, just not on the root window20:43
rekwhat if i wanted to continue the grub and booting without hotplug20:44
Seveasrek: I'm afraid that sentence makes no sense, so let me answer with a question: was this hotplug issue when installing, or when rebooting after the installation?20:44
rekSeveas, i rebooted after the first part of the installation...so it's still installing the os20:45
Seveasrek: erm... no. The install is only one part, no reboot in the middle.20:45
Seveasyou only reboot when the install is done.20:46
ducassesimon2: try setting it with lxappearance20:46
rekSeveas, the system did reboot ...asking me to remove the media and to make sure i was able to boot from the hd20:46
Seveasthat means the install is done.20:46
rekit's still installing all the packages... though20:47
Seveasyou mean it's doing security updates?20:47
reki see mostly applications... tote, synaptic...ooffice various ttf20:48
rektotem*20:48
simon2ducasse: can i reload the cursor theme without having to restart X?20:48
simon2ducasse: when setting it with lxappearance20:48
Seveascan you share a screenshot of what's going on? Those two haven't been installed by default for quite some time... Which Ubuntu version are you using?20:49
ducassesimon2: i don't remember tbh, i have a sneaking suspicion maybe you need to relogin20:49
lorddoskiashello, i just installed 2 dell U2415 monitors, and rotated one of them vertically and i observe screen tearing on this monitor, whereas on the other which is in normal horizontal position i don't observe tearing when scrolling or moving windows around20:49
simon2ducasse: right, ill do that, brb!20:49
lorddoskiasboth monitors are hooked up via DP20:49
simon2_ducasse: same behavior, the cursor changed but not on the desktop20:51
ducassesimon2: how did you set it in ~/.Xresources?20:51
AlexPortableHow do i shutdown the system after 5 seconds?20:52
AlexPortableshutdown -r -t 5 seems to shut it down after 5 minutes20:52
simon2_ducasse: Xcursor.theme: DMZ-Black20:52
ducassesimon2_: btw, 'i3-msg restart' is probably enough, no need to restart x server itself20:52
simon2_ducasse: ill try20:52
simon2_ducasse: nope i3-msg restart wasn't sufficient20:53
simon2_ducasse: Seveas: btw, i did notice that the cursor is the same when im at the login screen20:53
simon2_ducasse: Seveas: as it is on the deskopt that is20:53
ducassesimon2_: well, you haven't changed anything since logging in :) i mean enough for testing if a change works.20:53
ducassesimon2_: hang on, let me see if i can change the theme here.20:54
simon2_ducasse: yea, but something is setting the default cursor theme at the login screen as well right?20:54
budfoxHi! I just installed Ubuntu Server 16.04.1 but when doing `sudo npm install` in a project dir I get error ECONNRESET, anybody know? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/581b31555f0a74815e7528dbb2f2b26b20:55
ducassesimon2_: default x resources, i would think20:55
jonjitsuon ubuntu 16.04 what is the easiest way to execute a script on bootup/shutdown/reboot?20:55
budfoxjonjitsu: ubuntu startup scripts are messy as f20:57
Apachez3.8GB20:57
k1lbudfox: did you read what you pasted? its a network issue.20:57
EriC^^jonjitsu: add it to crontab @reboot20:57
k1ljonjitsu: (ana)cron script or make a proper systemd scribt20:58
budfoxk1l: What isn't revealed in that paste is that it actually installs a lot of packages successfully first. So the network works for like a minute and then shuts down.20:58
Apachez3.6GB20:59
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simon2_ducasse: you sure? id think that unity had some kind of theme21:00
Seveasjonjitsu: systemd unit files.21:01
k1lbudfox: are you using some vpn or proxy?21:02
ApachezSeveas: I found which package wanted to rip out ubuntu-desktop: cpp and cpp-621:03
budfoxjonjitsu: Yep, copy one of the scripts in /etc/init.d/, but beware, things will never be as beautiful as on openbsd (http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/infrastructure/templates/rc.template?rev=1.10&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup)21:03
simon2_ducasse: i think i found a bug-report describing my issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/150658721:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1506587 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Unity Desktop does not respect cursor theme after update" [Low,Confirmed]21:03
simon2_unfortunately far from fixed :/21:03
budfoxk1l: Not really, I'm on virtualbox in bridged networking mode though?21:03
ApachezSeveas: http://imgur.com/whRx9Oh21:05
Apachezgenii: http://imgur.com/whRx9Oh21:05
SeveasApachez: so leave that one installed.21:05
Apachezregarding the uninstall of cpp wants to rip out the whole ubuntu-desktop and all its dependencies21:05
Seveasand no, uninstalling cpp will not rip out gnome, just the ubuntu-desktop metapacakge, which is fine to not have installed.21:06
k1lbudfox: try disableding https with npm config set registry http://registry.npmjs.org/21:06
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Apachezalong with xinit, x11-apps and the others?21:06
Apachezsounds like stuff will break heavily...21:06
Seveasthat's not what the output shows.21:07
budfoxk1l: Much obliged, trying now :P21:07
Seveasit shows that apt-get autoremove would now remove those, so you can no longer use apt-get autoremove. Which is expected if you remove core parts of what ubuntu installs.21:07
Apachezyes but how is cpp a core part?21:07
budfoxcloneCurrentTree ? gunzTa _ ¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦21:07
Apachezyou should be able to have ubuntu installed without shitloads of compiletools imho21:08
k1lApachez: what makes you think cpp is not needed?21:08
SeveasApachez: cpp isn't "shitloads of compiletools". As to why it's necessary: no idea, I'd have to look.21:08
simon2was able to change the cursor on desktop (and unity-greeter) using `update-alternatives --config x-cursor-size`21:09
simon2thanks guys21:09
budfoxk1l: So far so good =)21:09
k1lApachez: look at rdepends to know why a package is installed. blindly removing pacakges when you have no clue at all will just make a mess21:09
SeveasApachez: the dependency chain is ubuntu-desktop -> xorg -> x11-session-utils -> cpp21:09
Seveasso something in x11-session-utils needs cpp21:09
Seveasand has done so since ~forever21:10
Seveasxrdb needs it to process .Xdefaults.21:10
Apachezsounds... retarded (regarding dependency to cpp)21:10
Apachezbut I guess ill have to live with that...21:10
Apachezwhat Im trying to do is to shrink a default install to be used with pxe21:11
k1lApachez: i guess the projects will welcome a working solution from you that will make that better.21:11
Seveasthen don't bother with having ubuntu-desktop installed. You can trim it down much, much further without the metapackages21:11
Sevease.g. by not having libreoffice21:11
Apachezyeah but libre and browser is a must in this case21:12
Apachezother than that there doesnt seem to exist that many options to shrink the default install othre than removing build-essentials, gcc and gpp21:12
Seveasthen the whopping 6mb of cpp-6 can't be much of a problem. You're already bloated...21:12
Apachezwill shrink from 3.8GB to 3.6GB21:13
Apachezthe other way around is of course to use lxde or such with basically no depdencies but then its a different user experience compared to unity21:13
k1lwhat? so you blew everything up as far as possible and argue about a install cpp then?21:13
Apachezk1l: I used the default install and tried to rip out things who is in no need such as compiletools21:14
Apachezbut for some bad reason the ubuntu-desktop depends all the way down to cpp which is odd and bad21:14
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k1lApachez: ask the users who need that for video or wifi drivers etc.21:14
Apachezand nowadays you are stuck with both perl AND python since various system scripts uses both21:15
k1lApachez: sorry, but you have no clue at all and make strong statements here.21:15
Apachezk1l: sorry but you have no clue on the topic of creating a pxe boot image obviously21:15
Seveasbe nice to each other kids.21:16
k1lApachez: as i already said above: make a better solution and the projects will benefit from that. but just ranting in here not knowing the facts behind the decisions will help nobody at all.21:17
budfoxApachez: You're right. On OpenBSD it's not like that though. OpenBSD ships with minimal software, hence being the world's most secure and tidy Unix-like OS.21:17
Apachezk1l: you are not really contributing at all with your rant21:18
naccApachez: couldn't you just use the netboot boot.img?21:18
Seveasbudfox: but apparently he wants all the bloat, just no compiler tools :)21:18
Apacheznacc: in this case its thin client stuff21:18
Apacheznacc: otherwise netinstall works like a charm :)21:18
denza252Hi, I'm having problems booting off of a LiveUSB (made with UNetBootin21:19
denza252)21:19
Apachezdenza252: what about using startup disk creator in ubuntu ?21:19
al8989hello i just did a fresh clean isntall of kubuntu 16.04 as an upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 but I am having a problem with my usb wireless adapter where when i restart my computer linux will not connect to my wireless network until i remove the usb adapter and reinsert it. Why is this happening when it did not happen before in ubuntu 14.0421:19
k1ldenza252: its known that unetbootin got some issues. on windows better use rufus21:19
Seveasdenza252: what's the problem? And have you checked the md5sum of the image? And did you try simply dd'ing the image to the usb stick?21:19
denza252Apachez, erm, that might be somewhat difficult, considering that the USB is 1000~ miles away from me physically21:20
Seveasdenza252: better start walking :-)21:20
denza252(I'm actually helping a friend install (K)Ubuntu but for the sake of simplicity I just said me)21:20
Apachezdenza252: and no human being close to it? :P21:20
denza252Apachez, well the friend is there21:20
denza252plus I have the magic of TeamViewer to help the process21:21
Seveask1l: rufus looks useful. Thanks, TIL.21:21
cybex_hi all, I require assistance with generating keys for a FTP server which channel can best help me achieve this?21:21
k1ldenza252: as i said: netbootin is known to have issues. try to use rufus on windows.21:21
budfoxoh rufus is awesome21:22
denza252k1l, can it do the persistence stuff that UNB can do?21:22
AlexPortableHow do i shutdown the system after 5 seconds?21:22
budfoxthat and putty two of my favorite windows tools21:22
AlexPortableshutdown -h -t 5 is 5 minutes21:22
denza252Like21:22
k1ldenza252: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows21:22
AlexPortableshould i use shutdown -h -t 0.08 ?21:22
xar--t is in seconds, not minutes, beware21:22
AlexPortablenope its not21:23
k1ldenza252: i dont think so. but for installing that doesnt matter21:23
SeveasAlexPortable: sleep 5 && shutdown -h now21:23
AlexPortablexar-: $ shutdown -r -t 5. shutdown scheduled for fri 2017-02-03 22:28:20 CET, use 'shutdown -c' to cancel21:23
denza252k1l, installing for myself I'd agree, however21:23
denza252One of the reasons I used UNB was persistence, so I could have TeamViewer installed on the LiveUSB because the friend would like the initial install done for them21:24
denza252s/installed/preinstalled/21:24
denza252(I ain't some huge teamviewer fan fyi, just need something that doesn't require em to have to figure out port forwarding)21:25
AlexPortableSeveas: thanks21:25
al8989hello does anyone knwo why my usb wireless adapter is not activated at computer boot into kubuntu 16.04 and why i must remove it and reinsert it for it to become activated and connect to my wireless network21:26
denza252k1l, is it possible to install packages onto a LiveUSB without having persistence?21:26
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k1ldenza252: a little bit untill the ram is full21:26
Seveasal8989: please don't repeat questions too quickly. Maybe browse the forums or askubuntu.com while waiting for an answer21:27
al8989oh sorry21:27
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Guest11261hello all. can someone direct me to the place where i can ask a question about configuring default-ssl.conf?21:28
denza252k1l, noted.21:28
denza252k1l, my other theory about why it fails to boot is that it's a bios problem21:28
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Guest11261i mean in ubuntu 16.0421:29
denza252the (very unhelpful) error that always pops up when trying to boot is "Boot Error"21:29
SeveasGuest11261: that smells like an apache config file. What's up with it?21:29
denza252and I can't tell if it's a bios or syslinux error21:29
k1ldenza252: unb changes things from the ubuntu iso to show their boot menue etc. that is not compatible recently21:29
Guest11261hi seveas21:29
denza252k1l, would that result in the cryptic error?21:29
k1ldenza252: not matching syslinux version21:29
Guest11261not sure what is wrong21:29
Guest11261i have no problem configuring 000-default.conf for http21:30
Guest11261but my browsers simply cannot connect to https21:30
rekmy fear the x server can't go into x because the resolution is too high.... how can i lower it?21:30
Guest11261even though port 443 open on ufw21:30
denza252k1l, could I say, copy the syslinux files from my comp (*.c32) and put it onto the USB?21:31
Guest11261and things look right with my commercial SSL certificate21:31
rekreconfiguring gdm doesn't take me to that point21:31
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denza252Oh I should mention, I made the disk with UNB on both Ubuntu and Windows(10) with the latest available version of UNB21:31
SeveasGuest11261: did you a2enable it?21:31
Seveasand a2enmod ssl? (not sure if that's needed)21:32
Guest11261yes21:32
Guest11261and restarted apache221:32
Guest11261and i rekeyed my certificates twice, thinking something might be wrong21:32
reki don't have x.org in X1121:32
Guest11261yes a2enmod ssl21:32
Guest11261funny thing is that in 14.04 i had no problems21:33
Guest11261it's only in 16.04 that this problem popped up21:33
Seveasis it listening on port 443? (sudo ss -tlpn)21:33
Guest11261yes21:33
Guest11261ah21:33
Guest11261i didn't ss -tlpn21:33
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Seveasshould show a line like this:21:33
SeveasLISTEN     0      128                                                                   :::443                                                                  :::*      users:(("apache2",27756,6),("apache2",27273,6),("apache2",23859,6),("apache2",23858,6),("apache2",23857,6),("apache2",21453,6),("apache2",21452,6),("apache2",20574,6),("apache2",19081,6),("apache2",19080,6),("apache2",10713,6))21:33
nicomachus"a line"21:34
nicomachus>proceeds to paste 5 lines21:34
Seveasit's a single line. Just very long.21:34
Guest11261should i try ss -tlpn?21:34
Guest11261please hold on21:34
rekSeveas, sorry to disturb you...how would you set the screen resolution for the X server?21:35
Guest11261LISTEN      0      128                               :::443                                           :::*21:35
Guest11261that's what i get when i ss -tlpn21:35
Guest11261plus a lot of other lines21:35
adamsilverHow can I disconnect from tmux session while keeping it active? ctrl+d is doing nothing from my mac21:36
Guest11261above that21:36
bannon4lifewhen is trump sending tanks to congress to be like boris yeltsin? we all loved boris21:36
bannon4lifewhen is trump sending tanks to congress to be like boris yeltsin? we all loved boris21:36
bannon4lifewhen is trump sending tanks to congress to be like boris yeltsin? we all loved boris21:36
bannon4lifewhen is trump sending tanks to congress to be like boris yeltsin? we all loved boris21:36
Seveasrek: click the ubuntu logo in the top left corner, type 'displays'. Open that applet and set resolution.21:36
Seveasadamsilver: ctrl+b, then d21:36
rekSeveas i can't start the X21:36
Seveasrek: then solve that first :-)21:36
reki suppose the problem is too high resolution21:36
Guest11261seveas are you talking to me?21:36
rekany idea21:36
SeveasGuest11261: looks like it's listening. Is this on a public ip I should be able to connect to.21:36
Guest11261yes21:37
Guest11261want the domain name?21:37
SeveasGuest11261: what's the ip/hostname. Want to see what I get.21:37
adamsilverSeveas: thanks a lot21:37
Guest11261mpowr-me.com21:37
SeveasGuest11261: looks like you're serving http on port 44321:37
Seveasinstead of https21:38
Guest11261oh, that isn't good21:38
Seveasyeah, check this: http://mpowr-me.com:443/21:38
Guest11261wonder how that happened21:38
Guest11261could it be that both 000-default.conf and default-ssl.conf loaded simultaneously?21:39
Seveasplease pastebin the output of ls -laR /etc/apache221:39
Guest11261please hold21:39
denza252your call is important to us21:39
rekno screens found21:40
SeveasToday's hold music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ21:41
rekthe live works21:41
Guest11261er, what i get is too long to paste here21:41
BasketballI have a windows 7 pc that is eth0 only... is there a way to somehow use my pi 3 to give it Internet inside the garage where I cannot plug ethos into router21:41
Guest11261it's a russian novel as it were21:41
Guest11261;-)21:41
SeveasGuest11261: put it on dpaste.de21:42
nicomachusSo I started noticing this message yesterday when I connect to my home network (from multiple machines), but have never gotten it previously. Nothing about the network configuration has changed, and nothing on either machine has changed. Any idea what could the issue all of a sudden like that? https://askubuntu.com/questions/339702/network-service-discovery-disabled-what-does-this-mean-for-me21:43
Seveasnicomachus: something on the network changed, look in /etc/resolv.conf21:44
Seveasyou'll notice a 'search .local' line which you get from your dhcp server (probably settings from your (stupid) isp)21:44
Guest11261done21:44
SeveasGuest11261: what's the irl of the snippet?21:44
Seveasurl*21:45
nicomachusSeveas: I just don't understand why it started happening suddenly, when I haven't made any changes to network settings (at all)21:45
Guest11261http://dpaste.de/ggVa21:45
Seveasnicomachus: it's not a change on your computer21:45
nicomachusSeveas: right. I haven't made any router or other network changes, though.21:45
Seveasnicomachus: in most simple home setups those settings simply come from the ISP, who may have made a change.21:46
nicomachusI don't use my ISPs router though21:46
Guest11261i hold till further word from you21:46
nicomachusDNS is custom and DHCP settings are pretty well static21:46
SeveasGuest11261: that looks correct. Did you change 000-default.conf or default-ssl.conf?21:46
Guest11261i see you are dealing with several aircraft at the same time21:46
Guest11261in what way "change"?21:46
Seveasnicomachus: ok, now it's getting interesting. Does the 'search .local' line actually appear in /etc/resolv.conf?21:47
SeveasGuest11261: in any way edit the file :) I guess you did as you mention a custom certificate. Can you pastebin both files?21:47
Guest11261i simply put in what i think are the correct certificate lines21:47
nicomachusnot on this machine but I'm not on my home network atm. one sec, let me check one of those machines.21:47
Guest11261and i think i added a ServerName21:47
Guest11261which i got in some youtube video21:47
Guest11261and removed the string default_ssl_site from the beginning before *.44321:48
Guest11261in virtual host header21:48
nicomachusSeveas: no, it's not in that resolv.conf either.21:48
nicomachusSeveas: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23920801/21:49
Seveasso no search lines whatsoever.21:49
nicomachusright21:49
Guest11261again, on 14.04 i set up ssl in about 15 minutes. now i have spent a couple days and still no joy21:49
Guest11261odd21:49
Seveasnicomachus: I'm not sure how avahi detects a .local domain then... does this give anything useful: dig -t SOA local. (and do include the '.' in the command)21:50
Guest11261maybe i'll just have to live with http:21:51
Guest11261:-(21:51
Guest11261at least it works just fine21:51
wendicohello, i never use irc just to talk in this room to solve ubuntu problems that you always help me. Today i have a problem with android, i know is not for this channel but since i only know how to talk in this channel, could you help me find a channel that can help me solvind android issues? Thank you very much ubuntu users! I tried #Android with no luck, do you know any channel like this one that would help me with an android weird 21:51
Guest11261a shame that an upgrade to 16.04 should be causing me such a headache21:51
SeveasGuest11261: please pastebin the configs21:51
Guest11261sure21:52
Guest11261both for http and for ssl?21:52
Guest11261both configs?21:52
Seveasyeah21:52
nicomachusSeveas: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23920814/21:52
Guest11261ok, please hold21:52
nicomachus!alis > wendico21:52
ubottuwendico, please see my private message21:52
Seveasnicomachus: ayup, stupid ISP it is. They suddenly have .local in DNS21:53
SeveasI'd expect better from AT&T21:53
wendicoThank you nicomachus21:53
Seveasnicomachus: which they're explicitely not allowed to do...21:53
Guest11261here is the 000-default.conf21:54
Guest11261http://dpaste.de/KvYn21:54
Guest11261and in a moment you will get the default-ssl.conf21:55
Guest11261note that 000-default.conf works just fine21:55
Seveasyeah, that one looks fine. Didn't expect a problem, but wanted to be thorough21:56
Guest11261how do i copy the file if it goes past one whole screen of text?21:57
Seveasnicomachus: one workaround would be to use google's nameservers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4) for dns21:57
Guest11261sorry for the dumbness of question21:57
SeveasGuest11261: cat /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl.conf | nc termbin.com 999921:57
Guest11261thx21:58
Guest11261http://termbin.com/a2ud21:58
Guest11261could this be a chown issue?21:59
Guest11261i find that hard to believe21:59
Guest11261in fact i chowned to www-data:www-data22:00
Guest11261at one point at least22:00
rekxfree86   log not recognized screens22:02
SeveasGuest11261: unfortunately the config looks completely fine :/22:02
Guest11261could this have something to do with the wrong extensions (.crt) instead of (.pem) or something like that?22:02
Guest11261i know22:02
Seveasany clues in error.log?22:02
Guest11261that's what's wierd22:02
Guest11261i can look.22:02
Guest11261please hold22:02
Seveasany chown or certificate format error should result in apache simply not starting up22:02
Guest11261http://dpaste.de/Abxv22:05
Guest11261most recent activity22:05
Guest11261from error.log22:05
nicomachusSeveas: AT&T actually doesn't allow any changes in DNS on their routers. I am using my own, which is pointed to my rpi322:05
nicomachusSeveas: but what's this about them not being allowed to have .local in DNS?22:06
Seveasnicomachus: .local is reserved for mdns/avahi/bonjour, it's not to appear in normal dns22:06
SeveasGuest11261: nothing odd there either. I'm baffled.22:07
Guest11261this is the wierdest thing i've ever seen. it's like everything is right but it simply doesn't work22:07
Guest11261perhaps there is a certificate issue22:07
Guest11261though i did that right too22:08
Guest11261generated csr22:08
nicomachusSeveas: and what in that paste tells you they were using it? I would love to take another crack at them about their awful DNS policies.22:08
Guest11261and put related key in right place22:08
Jordan_ULogging in to GNOME Shell takes about a minute on my system, which is longer than it takes to get from boot to GDM. How can I debug / solve this problem? Recently upgraded to Ubuntu Gnome 16.10, but I had the same problem with U-G 16.04.22:08
Guest11261and downloaded zipped bundle and certificate and stuck them in the right place22:08
Seveasnicomachus: dig -t SOA local. resolves to something. It should absolutely not. The only correct response would be an NXDOMAIN22:08
Guest11261and, again, i had NO problems whatsoever in previous iteration if this SSL install busines22:08
Guest11261anyway, thanks for trying22:09
Seveasnicomachus: http://termbin.com/79ag22:09
Guest11261i am just going to forget about the SSL. after all, what i want to secure is neither banking nor military importance22:09
Guest11261more of a learning thing22:09
SeveasGuest11261: sorry I couldn't help. I do this for a living, so I really should be able to :)22:09
Guest11261thanks anyway.22:10
Guest11261i will just muddle on22:10
Guest11261:-)22:10
rekdamn22:10
Guest11261and let any interested party watch my traffic22:10
Guest11261bye for now22:10
SeveasGuest11261: If you could zip up the entirety of /etc/apache2 and mail it to seveas@seveas.net, I'll have a shot tomorrow22:10
Seveasgotta go to bed now :)22:11
Guest11261i will get billed?22:11
Seveaswhat would make you think that?22:11
Guest11261ha ha22:11
SeveasI just can't stand not solving this :)22:11
Guest11261i will try to zip everything up and send22:12
Guest11261thanks22:12
Guest11261bye for now22:12
Seveas\o22:12
MonkeyDusto/22:13
budfoxOh well, guess npm won't work on Ubuntu either, next stop Debian!22:13
ikonianpm works fine on ubuntu22:13
ducasserek: if you want help, please ask a properly phrased question on ONE line, to the channel, then wait for someone to respond.22:13
ikonianpm itself is not a good package manager22:14
Seveasisn't npm short for "not a package manage"? :)22:14
wendicoThank you very much again, solved my problem. i love you all.22:14
adalbert_Hi, question, How can I list the dhcp clients that are connected to a wifi hotspot in NetworkManager?22:14
adalbert_./var/lib/NetworkManager/*.lease doesn't show the ip's the hotspot is providing ...22:15
Bashing-omJordan_U: Not to teach Grampa, but on booting issues have you seen : http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html ?22:16
budfoxikonia: I suppose you're right22:16
budfoxSeveas: hehe22:16
Seveasadalbert_: perhaps they show up in the dnsmasq logs. journalctl -xe --identifier dnsmasq22:16
adalbert_Seveas, let me check that.22:17
adalbert_Seveas, Nope nothing there22:17
elias_aadalbert_: Would this be of help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/506110/listing-devices-connected-in-hotspot-through-terminal22:19
adalbert_Seveas, found it's journalctl -xe --identifier dnsmasq-dhc , Thanks S!22:20
reki'm on ubuntu 4.10 i can't  start the x server properly. /var/log/XFree86.0.log says failed to load module v41 module does not exist. no device detected fatal server error: no screens found. what can i do?22:20
Seveasrek: Ubuntu 4.10 has been out of support for over a decade. Try 16.04 instead.22:21
MonkeyDustrek  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue22:21
budfoxI have no choice but to try Debian next. If it works there I know for sure something is wonky with Ubuntu.22:22
rekUbuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l MonkeyDust22:22
budfoxOr I sort of already know, because first I had these abrupt npm ECONNRESET errors on Ubuntu Server 16.04.1/VirtualBox 5.1.4? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/aca183d181bec293c619133922f07fe622:22
MonkeyDustrek  type   /topic22:22
budfoxThen, they somehow magically disappeared, only to be replaced by another error when doing `sudo npm install phantomjs-prebuilt`, npm WARN notsup Not compatible with your operating system or architecture: fsevents@1.0.17 -- https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8052bb79acbaa6262764a604a37a040e22:22
Jordan_UBashing-om: Unfortunately that doesn't cover Gnome Session (that I know of). My boot time is fine, it's the login time that I want to fix.22:23
Seveasbudfox: phantomjs comes as an ubuntu package too. sudo apt-get install phantomjs22:23
rekSeveas, MonkeyDust if somebody can help i'd be glad or i'll goin ubuntu offtopic22:23
Error02xHi all22:23
elias_arek: Just for reference - what are you doing with such an old version?22:23
Seveasrek: /dev/null is the only correct place for ubuntu 4.10.22:23
MonkeyDustrek  your ubutu version is long dead22:23
budfoxSeveas: True, but it won't work, my Node app requires the latest version :/ That's why I came to Ubuntu from OpenBSD in the first place22:24
MonkeyDustrek  you wo't find help anywhere22:24
rekelias_a,  compiling and run qt 2.3.0 and psx memory card manager of raphael22:24
budfox(OpenBSD too had a slightly older version of phantomjs and I didn't want to wait for the port manager to respond to my cry for help :D)22:24
budfoxadios debian here we come!22:24
Seveasrek: might be easier to just invent a time machine.22:24
elias_arek: Interesting! Good luck! :)22:25
rekSeveas, yeah i had many problem also installing win 98 on this dual core machine... :)22:25
elias_arek: You are a bit perverted but I guess you know it already. :D22:26
rekelias_a, yeah heheh you remember psx days...i wanted to test the interface i build with linux.... i have some problem using qt 2 with 14.04 or .10 so i might try to compile qt 2 under 14.1022:26
MonkeyDusttroll alert (rek)22:26
SeveasMonkeyDust: why? Just because he plays with ancient software?22:27
nicomachusMonkeyDust: he was here the other day. he's a hobbyist with old hardware running Warty22:30
SeveasWe can mock him for his sins, but that doesn't make him a troll :)22:31
MonkeyDustfair enough22:31
studenthello22:32
sean_1student, hi22:32
SeveasI have fond memories of 4.10 and the naked people wallpapers :)22:32
foul_owlrek: can you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf?22:34
foul_owlinto gist or similar22:34
xanguaWait what >.> Seveas22:35
Seveasfoul_owl: 4.10 still had xfree86, not this fancy xorg stuff :)22:35
foul_owlDaaamn ok haha22:35
foul_owlI would suggest commenting out whatever config line is trying to load v4l22:35
rekhardy heron's wallpaper was nice too22:35
Seveasxangua: http://www.javipas.com/wp-content/ubuntu.JPG22:36
Seveashttps://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/ubuntu-4.10.png22:36
xangua>.>22:37
rekyeah there's no xorg.conf22:37
foul_owlMaybe try http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-HOWTO/x111.html22:37
rekduring the setup i set an extremely high resolution could that be a problem? yeah let me have a look22:38
foul_owlWhat's your resolution?22:38
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margulI know this is for ubuntu and I'm running Linux mint cinnemon 18.1 but hopefully I can still get some help. I have two monitors, one set in DVI and one with HDMI. Only one of them are showing at a time. When both are connected only the HDMI is showing. When I remove the HDMI my screen with DVI shows. Here is inxi -G and xrandr: http://pastebin.com/ihH6iCKT , hopefully someone can help me.22:39
cfhowlett!mint | margul use the  mint support channels please22:39
ubottumargul use the  mint support channels please: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org22:39
foul_owlrek: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/XF86Config.5.html22:39
AlexPortablehow can i add a slight sound delay?22:40
foul_owlgrep those locations looking for references to v4l, remove the line, try starting x22:40
foul_owl(Making backups of course)22:40
foul_owlThe system was working correctly in the past though?22:40
foul_owlDo you know what changed or when the change happened?22:40
foul_owlIs someone running a production database on it? :P22:42
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kaddihi, i need to create a pdfa-1b compliant document and validate that it is pdfa-1b compliant. I was supposed to do with acrobat pro but I don't own it and it doesn't exist for linux.. I was wondering if that is a tool on linux that'll do the same as preflight in acrobat pro22:45
kaddidocument = pdf document22:45
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RicKJameshowdy22:47
RicKJamesNEED assistance on initramfs Boot issue22:48
bazhangstate the exact issue please RicKJames22:49
RicKJamesbazhang: thanks! Booting into ubuntu I get an initramfs prompt, the only thing I can do is enter exit to get out of it. fsck not found, etc.22:50
RicKJamesblkid outputs: /dev/sda1: UUID="d2ebbd02-09a7-4209-84d6-44e80254e997" TYPE="ext4"22:51
RicKJamesOK it's more verbose than that.22:52
RicKJamesThe issue is it says this: /dev/sde1: UUID="33ff6dbc-6d80-496f-b880-b24aaf18bef8" TYPE="ext4" is not found22:52
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RicKJamesI did run an fsck using a liveUSB on all the hard drives, and also attempted boot repair on liveusb but I still get the initramfs prompt when I boot.22:53
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Bashing-omRicKJames: Compare the UUIDs set in /etc/fstab for what to boot to what 'sudo blkid' reports .22:58
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RicKJamesBashing-om: Thanks. OK.23:05
Bashing-omRicKJames: ( from a liveDVD mounting the booting root partition ) :)23:06
RicKJamesfstab says: <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>23:07
RicKJames# / was on /dev/sdd1 during installation23:07
RicKJamesUUID=33ff6dbc-6d80-496f-b880-b24aaf18bef8 /               ext4   discard,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro 0       123:07
RicKJamesand:23:09
RicKJames# swap was on /dev/sdc5 during installation23:09
RicKJamesUUID=9e3b5196-e8ca-4a7e-8537-c0f4fb7a93d3 none            swap    sw              0       023:09
RicKJames# Move /tmp to RAM23:09
RicKJamestmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid 0 023:09
Bashing-om!paste | RicKJames23:10
ubottuRicKJames: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:10
RicKJamesBashing-om: Got it23:11
Bashing-omRicKJames: Pastebin ' sudo blkid ' . Se if the UUIDs are correect .23:11
RicKJamesOK Pasted23:12
wedgieyou have to give us the link :)23:13
RicKJamesoh sorry23:13
RicKJameshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/23921372/23:13
RicKJameshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/23921375/23:13
RicKJamesSo it seems sdd1 switched to sde1?23:14
Bashing-omRicKJames: look'n .23:14
Bashing-omRicKJames: So our target is " 33ff6dbc-6d80-496f-b880-b24aaf18bef8 "; pastebin ' sudo blkid ' .23:15
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RicKJamesBashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23921397/23:18
Guest28230hola23:18
Guest28230what do you spanish?23:18
wedgie!es23:19
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:19
FredeI'm running an ubuntu server 16.04 lts. I have 2 network interfaces. One is connected to my router, the other to a computer. I want the computer to be able to talk to my router, without even knowing the ubuntu machine is in the middle. How do I do that?23:19
Guest28230thanks23:19
wedgiede nada23:19
Bashing-omRicKJames: So of the 4 ext4 partitions .. which are the partitions containing root and which one do you want as the booting system ??23:20
wedgieFrede: you're looking for bridging: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge23:20
Fredewedgie: Later, I'd like to be able to run some proxy / cache on the server. Would bridging still be the answer?23:22
wedgieFrede: i don't have any experience setting up caching or proxying in that manner, so I'm not sure how to advise you. But if you want the computer to be "invisible" then that is what you have to do23:24
wedgiethe alternative is setting up a proxy and configuring the clients to use it23:24
wedgiethat woudn't require bridging23:24
RicKJamesBashing-om: I have several HD's in this desktop and three of them are running Ubuntu, but the Intel SSD has the main Ubuntu and is the one I need to boot from23:25
Fredewedgie: I'm hoping to set up a proxy which doesn't require the clients to do anything. I was thinking something like iptable routing, routing all port 80 calls to my cache. But at the moment I can't even get my computer on the other side of the server to responds, so I was thinking to start with the basics :)23:26
posFrede, possible, but any such solution will fail at https23:27
posand, thanks to a certain Ed, many sites do use it :)23:27
wedgieFrede: well, alternative #2 then is to set up the server as a router and route between your users' and the internet router23:28
posnah, iptables can do it, just search for transparent proxy23:28
posbut again: https23:29
Bashing-omRicKJames: K. That begs the question then - which of the 4 drives is the SSD device and is that set as 1st boot priority in bios ?23:29
Fredepos: https isn't an issue. It's mostly for downloading large files over http.23:29
posFrede, then set up squid as a transparent proxy. but again: many sites and CDNs are on https already23:30
poswindows update is not, however :O23:30
kevy0Hi guys , every time I open up my Terminal (urxvt) the Xresources file doesn't load. I have to do it manually with xrdb , how can I "automate" that ?23:30
goto-Hey. I like to use a additional usb number block as a remote for some python scripts. I would prefer that this device does not work as standard HID for the system but only for my program. Where should I start searching?23:30
kevy0using 16.04 if that matters23:31
posi did this twelve years ago, not much https around back then :P23:31
RicKJamesBashing-om: It's set as boot priority in bios, but I'm not sure how I would find out which HD is the SSD from the blkid output?23:31
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Guest27731italy?23:31
posblkid just gives you UUIDs for partitions23:31
postry hdparm23:31
tgm4883!it | Guest2773123:32
ubottuGuest27731: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)23:32
Bashing-omRicKJames: Maube ' sudo parted -l ' will tell which is the SSD .23:32
kaddihi, i need to create a pdfa-1b compliant pdf-document and validate that it is pdfa-1b compliant. I was supposed to do with acrobat pro but I don't own it and it doesn't exist for linux.. I was wondering if that is a tool on linux that'll do the same as preflight in acrobat pro23:32
RicKJamespos, Bashing-om: Ok. Thanks. https://paste.ubuntu.com/23921460/23:33
Fredepos: I have some pre-defined locations I would like to fetch from, which all use http and will likely continue to use it for this :) we're a couple of people all grabbing large raw files from a customer, and I would like to be able to speed it up by not having everyone go and grab it at the customers location, but just being able to grab it from a local cache, as our download speed is limited.23:34
posshould work really well23:35
mcphailkaddi: The last I checked, there wasn't a linux-native way to do that23:35
posso long as the files names do not change and the URIs are about the same23:35
kaddimcphail: thanks :(23:36
Fredepos: That's what I'm thinking. But right now I can't even get a computer on the other side of the server to respond. I'm guessing that problem is independent from squid. I'm imagining it would be something like iptables, that would allow me to talk "through" my server?23:36
kaddimcphail: you know of any way to do this without buying adobe pro?23:37
dlamis there some view-a-log-file-through-web-frontend package i can install?  sounds like something that might exist23:37
mcphailkaddi: nope. I used to run acrobat through wine to make compliant PDFs. Haven't needed to do it in years, thankfully, as I no longer have a licence23:37
poshttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy.html23:37
mcphailkaddi: There have been a couple of abortive attempts to get something similar on Linux, but I haven't seen any come to fruition23:38
kaddimcphail: at least I know.. gonna have to look into whether I can get it through some services (uni/work/internet cafe).. Not keen to shell out for a licence that I'll need once to edit a document23:38
RicKJamesBashing-om: So sde is the SSD23:38
thyriaenHello, am running a screen resolution of 2560x1440(16:9) and i would like to run 1920x1200(16:9) with black borders around the screen ( so no stretching ) - how can i achive this ? ( i cannot find any such option in my nividia driver gui )23:39
posalso: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/InterceptionProxy23:39
Bashing-omRicKJames: Deems to me that the SSD is " Disk /dev/sde: 240GB " . but ya got serious problems with that 2nd hard drive .23:39
Bashing-omSeems* yeah .23:39
Fredepos: I just found the tldp link. I'll try it out. Thanks for the help :)23:39
glacheHow can I permanently disable the cups server?  I have no printer and will never want to use one under any circumstance.23:40
RicKJamesBashing-om: The ATA OCZ-REVODRIVE (scsi) is an older PCI SSD that I've been meaning to take out off the board since it's more trouble than it's worth but I don't have any bootable partitions on it.23:41
Bashing-omRicKJames: The ATA driv is not the issue here . the SSD set as 1st boot priority .. and remove the bad sdb drive from the system . until such time as you can reconstruct the partition table on sdb ,23:42
RicKJamesBashing-om: So do I just hit E during grub boot and then point to /dev/sde or whatever?23:42
RicKJamesBashing-om: So I should not have the Intel SSD drive set as first boot?23:43
Bashing-omRicKJames: I would rather think resetting in bios to boot the SSD as the more likely resolution . Failing that then we look at grub's boot script .23:44
RicKJamesBashing-om: Ok. I will give that a try.23:45
Bashing-omRicKJames: I know from experience that a failing ( bad) drive can drive bios nuts .23:45
RicKJamesI'll let you know if that works. Thanks.23:45
Bashing-omRicKJames: K . will be here waiting to see .23:45
adhd_sup niggers23:47
glacheIs it possible to permanently disable cups-browsed?23:48
Bashing-omglache: What I did was ' sudo apt purge --auto-remove cups ' . in 16.04 to disable cups .23:54
thxffoanyone running bro-ids on ubuntu?23:54
bazhang!info bro-ids23:54
ubottuPackage bro-ids does not exist in yakkety23:54
bazhangwhat is bro-ids23:55
glacheu mad bro?23:55
wedgie!info bro23:55
ubottubro (source: bro): passive network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.1+dfsg-2build2 (yakkety), package size 1575 kB, installed size 5379 kB23:55
wedgiebazhang: it's an IDS23:56
bazhangthanks wedgie23:56
speed_Bashing-om: no luck23:57
Victorabefore I leave, i thought I might share a photo of my best friend.  http://imgur.com/hDRNDVy23:57
VictoraThank to all that helped me last night.23:58
Bashing-omspeed_: as RicKJames ???23:59
diablo_hi23:59

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