[00:47] <bluesabre> evening all
[00:53] <Unit193> Howdy.
[00:54] <bluesabre> hey Unit193 
[00:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Any progress on packageset?  Thought about splitting the icons out to src:elementary-xfce-themes, binary:elementary-xfce-icon-theme (or since libreoffice-style-elementary is no longer in there, just icon for src too)?
[00:58] <bluesabre> Unit193, haven't pinged about the packageset. Totally in favor of splitting the icons out
[00:59] <Unit193> I can't remember the third. \o/
[01:01] <bluesabre> :D
[01:01] <bluesabre> Unit193, what's used for starting an upgrade to development version? "update-manager -d" doesn't seem to cut it to get me to zesty
[01:02] <Unit193> do-release-upgrade -d is the terminal one, all else fails go with sed and apt.
[01:03] <bluesabre> Indeed, that seems to do something
[01:03] <Unit193> bluesabre: You may have to make sure you're on the 'normal' releases in /etc/update-manager/
[01:05] <bluesabre> Upgrade started
[01:05] <bluesabre> Should I go offline for a few days, I encountered a critical bug :D
[01:07] <knome> well that's better than ochosi traveling and disapperaing for two weeks
[01:07]  * knome hides
[01:07] <Unit193> No we may have kind of fixed the thunar one! :P
[01:07] <knome> also, typo
[01:08] <bluesabre> I'm looking forward to possibly finally seeing that darn bug fixed
[01:08] <knome> each patch has practically 50/50 chances of doing that
[01:08] <bluesabre> though, I've grown really fond of nautilus these past few days
[01:08] <knome> either it fixes or doesn't fix :P
[01:08]  * knome slaps bluesabre with a pile of turd
[01:08] <knome> no nautilus :P
[01:09] <bluesabre> ew
[01:09] <knome> i'm sorry
[01:09] <knome> it was the first thing that came into my mind
[01:09] <knome> when thinking of nautilus
[01:09] <knome> (:
[01:09] <bluesabre> :D
[01:19] <Unit193> Meh, he can use whatever he wants.
[01:19] <knome> :P
[01:20] <Unit193> I use thunar, and not really any crashing. :P
[01:21] <Unit193> ...OK so I use thunar every so often to open stuff, or see thumbnails, but not really.
[01:21] <knome> :P
[01:21] <bluesabre> :D
[01:21] <bluesabre> I rename a lot of files
[01:21] <bluesabre> x.x
[01:21] <knome> i don't use any other file manager than thunar
[01:21] <knome> it's gotten better than it was even some time ago
[01:21] <Unit193> mv/cp/etc
[01:22] <knome> well yes but that's not a file manager
[01:22] <Unit193> It's what I seem to use. :3
[01:22] <Unit193> mc?
[01:22] <knome> eww
[01:22] <knome> :)
[01:22] <bluesabre> eww
[01:23] <Unit193> I don't use it.
[01:23] <knome> that would have been an instaban
[01:23] <knome> juuust kidding
[01:24] <bluesabre> ... or is he
[01:24] <knome> yeah
[01:24] <knome> i do sometimes type mc when i mean to write mv though :P
[01:40] <knome> time to go to bed. nighty!
[01:40] <bluesabre>  nighty knome
[01:41] <Unit193> apt-cacher-ng can make updates fun. :P
[01:41] <Unit193> Certainly makes pbuilder nicer.
[01:42] <bluesabre> That'd be nice
[01:42] <bluesabre> pbuilder is not fun currently
[01:42] <Unit193> eatmydata+acng cached.
[02:27] <bluesabre> Up and running with Zesty :D
[02:39]  * Unit193 puts some Zest on bluesabre.
[03:52] <Unit193> bluesabre: Don't forget to report it.
[03:54] <bluesabre> Unit193, thanks :)
[04:28] <bluesabre> nighty all
[07:22] <flocculant> I think I've got the ppa thunar now - I forgot I'd dpkg -i those *thunar bits the other day :)
[07:35] <flocculant> bluesabre: I commented on the parole bug - not quite sure why you'd think I didn't have all the codecs I could find installed - but I posted what is here :)
[07:36] <flocculant> also btw (and perhaps linked) system chokes on upgrading to the parole we've got in staging 
[07:45] <flocculant> lets see how it does with copying the same 22Gb to 2 different places at the same time
[07:45] <flocculant> and changing those 10 .txt files back and forth
[07:46] <flocculant> cos it's not crashed on me in the last 25 minutes
[07:47] <flocculant> terminal on the other hand crashed running ssh to here :p
[07:52] <flocculant> ochosi: crashing still - posting to upstream 
[07:56] <flocculant> hard to know what normal usage of a file manager is - but I'd say 'anything you happened to want to do with it when you wanted to do it'
[07:56] <flocculant> that said *I* wouldn't normally be copying large files from destination to 2 seperate locations at the same time
[07:59] <flocculant> all in all in my normal usage - this latest 2 versions of thunar look much better than the repo version
[08:30] <flocculant> Unit193: looking at that list of what the thunar ppa has - I see the 9c6ddb patch - does it have the one from the bug report https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12264#c173 ?
[09:48] <Unit193> flocculant: Yes that's listed, you've got the commit hash at the top of the attachment, I've got that listed.
[10:51] <bluesabre> flocculant, I only suggested it since parole actually works for me... really hard to debug something I can't reproduce
[12:07] <flocculant> bluesabre: yea I realise that - not sure what to say there - doesn't appear to have any confirmation - perhaps keep an eye on it and see
[12:10] <flocculant> also don't appear to be able to reproduce on live now so ...
[12:13] <flocculant> Unit193: ok - thanks just wanted to be sure
[20:34] <flocculant> os-prober fix landed now
[20:35] <flocculant> well - landed in proposed at the moment :p
[20:37] <akxwi-dave> good will get that tested as soon as its up
[20:40] <flocculant> you can grab it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/os-prober if you really want to
[21:08] <pleia2> community funding request granted for another year of our linode :)
[21:11] <flocculant> pleia2: awesome :)
[21:22] <knome> great
[22:23] <flocculant> ochosi: and a crash just moving 1 file 
[22:50] <bluesabre> pleia2, awesome!
[22:52] <flocculant> hi bluesabre :)
[22:54] <bluesabre> hey flocculant 
[22:55] <flocculant> thi sthunar thing is driving me nuts :p
[22:57] <flocculant> I'm going to start correlating crashes in thunar against weather patterns ...
[23:07] <Unit193> flocculant: The master thunar fuzzer.
[23:14] <flocculant> ha
[23:14] <Unit193> Amusingly, neither Corsac nor I really hit it. :P
[23:15] <knome> thunar freezer?
[23:16] <flocculant> Unit193: hit what - the bug?
[23:17] <flocculant> I'm at loss now as to whether it's even worth testing it more to be honest
[23:27] <bluesabre> so, everything was fine yesterday, and terrible today?
[23:29] <flocculant> bluesabre: not sure I tested yesterday anymore 
[23:29] <flocculant> I know I crashed it on the 1st and today :p
[23:30] <flocculant> I did a bunch of things earlier and it was fine - then ~ hour ago it crashed moving a file
[23:31] <flocculant> it failed this morning too if the time stamp on bugzilla works
[23:31] <bluesabre> :(
[23:32] <flocculant> bluesabre: these new patches appear to be better - but perhaps they aren't helping 
[23:33] <flocculant> the make 1.txt etc and mv to 1.txt.txt and back appears ok - I ran that on it's own for ages 
[23:34] <flocculant> at the end of the day - if a file manager can't move a file without crashing it's not a whole lot of use :(
[23:35] <flocculant> bluesabre: to summarise - I've built with 2 different sets of patches and used Unit193's ppa version of one of them
[23:37] <flocculant> up until it crashing moving the 1 file - it 'seemed' to not like detaching tabs while it was copying/moving files
[23:37] <bluesabre> I see
[23:39] <flocculant> bluesabre: I can test it - but it doesn't seem to be worth it if it gets nowhere :)
[23:56] <bluesabre> flocculant, fair enough :)