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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #1: UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/1/00:30
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #1: UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/1/00:30
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #1: UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/1/00:31
clivejoyippeee00:31
clivejo15/8/1600:32
valorieclivejo: ?00:34
valorieso cryptic!00:35
clivejoyippeee @ rik making KCI build kirigami200:35
valorieunstable means that some tests are failing?00:35
clivejothe date was a mistake as I was looking up an invoice00:35
clivejolintian warnings00:36
clivejoget tsimonq2 to fix those00:36
acheronukvalorie: just lintian whinging00:36
valoriek00:36
clivejoacheronuk: so is that both v1 and v2 building now?00:40
clivejoor just v2 on KCI and well do v1 manually?00:41
acheronukno, both actually v2 in KCI. just we now have one properly called that.00:41
acheronukwe can probably get rid of v100:41
clivejoIll need it for peruse etc in KCI00:42
clivejomaybe upload one manually00:43
acheronukclivejo: 1.1 in git is only one commit ahead of the debian synced zesty I think?00:43
clivejook00:43
acheronukso as you say, maybe easier to do manually, assuming no great changes upstream to v1 now00:44
clivejo24/1000:45
clivejogrrrr00:45
* clivejo can't multitask00:45
acheronuk????00:45
clivejoLOL Im doing up accounts for last year00:46
clivejo24/10/2016 refund from ebay00:46
clivejobecause Royal Mail - Belfast detected a coin battery and it was sent back to sender00:47
clivejothey cant detect drugs or bullets, but they can find a watch battery!00:48
* clivejo rolls eyes00:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> USPS is better :P00:49
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I go sleep sleep now00:50
valorieI watched a NOVA about batteries last night00:51
clivejoa what?00:51
valoriesome of those fires and explosions are *impressive*00:51
valoriebut I've never heard of a watch battery exploding00:51
valorieNOVA is a great science series on PBS00:51
clivejoThey are crazy here00:53
clivejothere are watch batteries turning up in chocolate bunny rabbits :/00:54
IrcsomeBot* tsimonq2 dreams about batteries00:54
clivejoso when a child eats it, it corrodes their insides and cause internal burns :/00:54
clivejonasty00:54
valorie!00:55
valoriedear god00:55
clivejoand yet the news are reporting "Vegetable Crisis"00:56
sintregrowing up i was assumed i wasn't that fu**** dumb00:56
sintrei made it lol00:56
clivejounfortunately I live in a nanny state00:57
sintrebe afraid of the easter bunny00:57
clivejowhere hot water taps need warnings saying "Caution: Hot Water"00:57
sintrefk it i need a new water heater stop reminding me, only a 30 gallon one :/00:58
sintrewell our cautions here in u.s. were mostly for lawsuit prevention not idiot prevention01:00
sintrelike "wet floor" signs and stuff01:00
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #23 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED)01:15
acheronukvalorie: plasm uploaded01:22
acheronukminus discover, but shall do that tomorrow after some changes.01:23
acheronuknigh night all :)01:23
sintreok iritating thing01:32
sintrehave two windows closed01:32
sintreoje is playing you tube video one is this chat01:33
sintreit keeps changing locations on the bar at bottom01:33
sintreleft right left right01:33
sintreits like playing wack-a mole to get the right window lol01:33
sintreprobally not a bug , but i think consistent placement in sequence of openeing would be better than whack a-mole01:34
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_pause_integration build #23: ABORTED in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_pause_integration/23/01:35
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #2: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/2/01:50
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #2: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/2/01:50
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #2: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/2/01:50
DarinMilleryes! Today's os-loader patch fixed the multi-boot grub issue! Thanks dino99!!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/166015901:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1660159 in os-prober (Ubuntu Zesty) "os-prober fails to see other installed systems" [Critical,Fix released]01:59
acheronukDarinMiller: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/4:5.9.0-0ubuntu102:04
DarinMillerYes, I am now booted into one of my other partitions :)  Now if we can just fix libgpgme, 17.04 will be in great shape.  02:12
DarinMillerGood to see santa's back.  Any progress today with libgpgme?02:13
* DarinMiller starts reading the daily log....02:13
valoriewoooo, new Plasma!03:08
valorieDarinMiller: lest you get too happy, we've not sorted PIM at all03:09
valoriestill, progress03:09
valorieand perhaps we can get PIM done before beta 103:10
valoriethat would be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious03:10
sintrenot in time fore super bowl03:11
sintre:(03:11
sintregotta draga cable box out to livining room with  big screen03:11
nauticalnexusso, is there anyway I can help out here?03:55
sintretesting out the alpha ands giving feedback , i'm sure would be welcome04:01
sintrebut nobody would want you to do something that could hurt your primary04:02
nauticalnexusalpha for what?04:05
sintrenext version of ubuntu04:06
nauticalnexus:o04:06
sintreand turns uinto kubuntu04:06
nauticalnexusI did that with 16.0404:06
nauticalnexusI run KDE Neon though04:06
sintrevalorie could probally take you further in how to help04:07
DarinMillerBut Valorie we have Jonathan's secret decoder map.  It should be a piece of cake (http://weegie.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/PIM.png ) :)04:29
valorielol04:33
valorieDarinMiller: they split it since that was made!04:33
valorienauticalnexus: testing the alpha is the most helpful right now04:34
DarinMiller:)04:34
valoriefollow the QA links in the /topic04:34
valorienew QA links page nearly ready04:35
valoriebut that one will work, just ignore "smoke tests"04:35
* DarinMiller is attempting to fix plasma-sdk again. sbuilding now...05:37
DarinMillerStatus: successful!05:39
nauticalnexus:D05:40
* DarinMiller wonders why qml-module-org-kde-kirigami version bump from (>= 1.1.0~) to (>= 1.1.0-1~) fixed the problem. Seem like (>= 1.1.0~) should be sufficient.05:42
* nauticalnexus wonders what all that means.05:43
DarinMillernauticalnexus: I am still learning so I do a lot of thinking out loud.  Hopefully someone will redirect me if I wander off in the weeds....05:46
nauticalnexusoh no I literally know nothing05:46
nauticalnexushaha05:46
nauticalnexusI'm actually here to learn :o05:46
DarinMillernauticalnexus: have you used cvs's such as git or svn?05:50
nauticalnexusI know what a git is :O05:50
DarinMillerto your are familiar with cloning, checking out, merging and pushing?05:51
DarinMillerso you are....05:51
nauticalnexusI know how to clone05:51
nauticalnexusand I guess merging05:51
nauticalnexusI used to manage a kernel on the AUR05:51
DarinMillerYou packaged kernels for AUR?05:52
nauticalnexusa kernel05:53
DarinMillerI have not packages a kernel, only installed using dpkg -i *.deb. What was involved in packaging the AUR kernel? 05:54
nauticalnexushttps://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-cik/05:55
nauticalnexusjust modifying a PKGBUILD file, updating checksums05:55
nauticalnexuspushing the changes to the git url there05:55
nauticalnexuskernel is useless now, however. The changes have been merged into the official Arch kernel05:55
DarinMillercool :)05:56
nauticalnexusyup05:56
nauticalnexusbecause of me05:56
nauticalnexusI opened up a feature request half a year ago05:56
nauticalnexusfor that to be enabled.05:56
nauticalnexusit showed a lot of people who wanted it, so they did it05:56
nauticalnexusI'm probably gonna do the same for Ubuntu05:56
nauticalnexusI enabled the thing on KDE Neon, with the stock Ubuntu kernel. 60fps maxed out 1080p DiRT Showdown, really nice05:57
* nauticalnexus uses AMD05:57
nauticalnexusanyhoo05:57
nauticalnexusI'm apparently good at editing configs so05:57
DarinMillervery nice.05:57
nauticalnexusI mean I can definitely manage a git repo05:57
nauticalnexusI just need a refresher05:58
DarinMillerI had the misconception when I started "helping" here that since I could dissect a deb file and rip apart and rebuild iso's, packaging can't any harder....06:00
nauticalnexus:P06:00
nauticalnexusthe most packaging I've done was hexchat 2.12.406:01
nauticalnexusI packaged the hell out of that06:01
nauticalnexuslol06:01
nauticalnexus"2.12.0 in official repos? NOOOOOOOO. NEED DAT .4"06:01
DarinMillerI discovered that though it's not difficult, there are many ways to things wrong.  And I am not able to log in when all the smart people are online.  So getting over the learn curves has been slow.06:01
nauticalnexuswell I'm not smart in that area sorry06:03
nauticalnexusnow, if this were a git repo we were talking about... :P06:03
DarinMillerhas anyone pointed you to the ubuntu packaging basic links? i.e. the links that talk about launchpad account setup, gpg keys, registering gpc keys, git config, etc?06:05
DarinMilleronce you have all the the launchpad setup complete and a reasonable understanding of the git process and debian package structure, then you are ready to dive into the kci build failures (yellow belt stuff that I am attempting).06:11
nauticalnexusI have a launchpad acc06:11
nauticalnexusI have a gpg key, I don't know what a gpc key is, I think you might've meant gpg?06:12
DarinMillerits a typo :)06:12
DarinMillergpg key06:12
nauticalnexusit's cool :P06:12
nauticalnexusI have one :o how do I register06:12
DarinMillerhave you registered your gpg key on lp and signed the lp code of conduct with it?06:13
nauticalnexus.....no06:13
nauticalnexusI don't even know how to do any of that :o06:13
DarinMillergo to you lp page, i.e mine is https://launchpad.net/~darinsmiller06:13
DarinMillerreplace my username with your lp username06:14
nauticalnexushmm06:14
nauticalnexusappears I've done it before but it's an older key06:14
nauticalnexusit's one I don't have on my machine anymore :o06:15
DarinMilleryeah, had registered a passcoded gpp key long before I started packaging and by the time I tried to use it, I had forgotten the pass phrase.06:15
DarinMillerso i had to delete and add a new one.06:16
nauticalnexusI don't even have the secret key06:16
DarinMillernauticalnexus: follow these directions here: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html06:19
DarinMillerdo you have pbuilder or sbuilder setup on your box?  You won't need those until later .... I was just curious if you have used them before...06:20
* DarinMiller suspects the libgpg issue with 5.9 blocking his ability to push his plasma-sdk update to lp....06:22
DarinMillermight have to switch to my YY box until libgpg is ironed out....06:23
DarinMillernauticalnexus: what is your timezone? Are you in the US? 06:24
nauticalnexussorry06:25
nauticalnexuseast coast06:25
DarinMillerMountain time here...06:25
nauticalnexus>ubuntu implying I use bash06:27
nauticalnexuszsh master race06:28
DarinMillerAssuming I am able to assist, similar timezones should minimize roadblock issues that I encountered when I was trying to setup everything....06:28
DarinMillerwhat is your *nix background?  work related?  or crazy PC fanatic who finds adventure in opensouce community?06:30
* DarinMiller is both....06:30
nauticalnexusno, maybe06:30
nauticalnexusJesus I'm tired06:31
DarinMillerI plan to login tomorrow if you want any help with your setup environment.  Reading some this setup stuff when tired can be quite draining.06:32
nauticalnexusum06:34
nauticalnexusI can't sign the code of conduct for some reason06:35
nauticalnexuswell I can but06:35
nauticalnexusI copy it and paste the signed code and it says no public key06:35
nauticalnexusbut the key is public06:35
nauticalnexusugh06:36
nauticalnexusI had to send it the old fashioned way06:36
nauticalnexusmy gpg key06:36
DarinMillerand you are using a gpg key that you uploaded to lp and confirmed by following the decrypted email link?06:38
nauticalnexusyeah06:41
nauticalnexusI only have one06:41
DarinMilleronly 1 is needed06:41
nauticalnexusit's so neato seeing my key on a keyserver06:43
nauticalnexusI uploaded it to other ones too :o06:44
DarinMillerSo if you go to  your lp page and click on the icon next to the OpenPGP keys, your key listed under teh active keys section?06:44
nauticalnexusyeah06:44
nauticalnexusI did like everything there too btw :P06:44
DarinMillerbut code of conduct would not accept your key?06:45
nauticalnexusit did06:45
DarinMilleroh, cool06:45
nauticalnexusafter I did gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys whateverhtenumberis06:45
nauticalnexushttps://launchpad.net/~absynthesyne06:45
nauticalnexusthere's my lp thingy06:45
nauticalnexusit's all chill06:45
nauticalnexusI'm tired as hell though06:46
DarinMillervery good. Well, I think I am going to call it a night here.06:46
nauticalnexusyeah, night06:46
DarinMillergn.06:46
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/3/09:37
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/3/09:38
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_peruse build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 7 min 48 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_peruse/69/09:38
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:49
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_peruse build #70: FIXED in 8 min 51 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_peruse/70/09:49
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!10:48
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!10:48
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!10:48
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!11:03
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_peruse build #27: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_peruse/27/11:03
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!11:04
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_peruse build #59: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_peruse/59/11:04
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @DarinMiller, I've done POCs for this before, I should remake the PIM map :P11:44
BluesKajHowdy folks11:45
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Morning BluesKaj11:46
BluesKaj'Morning tsimonq211:47
acheronukclivejo: please try discover and peruse. you'll need to force downgrade qml-module-org-kde-kirigami to 1.1.0-1 for peruse12:02
clivejoforce downgrade = purge!12:03
acheronuknot always, but you can do it like that12:04
clivejodoing an upgrade12:09
clivejowill take a while :/12:09
acheronukclivejo: peruse is looking in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ for it knsrc file for some reason, instead of the proper /etc/xdg/12:10
acheronukI symlinked the 2 to fix, but will need looking into for if/when we ship peruse 12:11
clivejodoesnt look likely at this point12:11
clivejowe'll have to wait until tsimonq2 gets his MOTU12:12
clivejoand Archive Admin12:12
blazeclivejo: when?12:19
clivejoI really really want to split calligra translations from calligra-data to calligra-l10n12:19
clivejoblaze: when what?12:20
acheronukclivejo: why? 12:21
* clivejo is confused12:21
acheronukwhy split it?12:21
clivejoI dunno12:21
clivejofeels undebian to put it in -data12:22
blazeclivejo: motu for Simon12:22
acheronukit can be split out later if that becomes apparent. but if done now, makes it a royal pain to backtrack if it's not needed12:23
acheronukIMO ^^^12:24
acheronukblaze: I think he plans to work on it over the next few months12:25
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yep12:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Can't sleep...12:26
* acheronuk heads for lunch12:29
clivejowell debian packaged kdevelop and the language files are in kdevelop-l10n12:58
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:5.0.1-3ubuntu212:59
clivejoand the same with krita12:59
clivejoso just seems like a standard to put the in package-l10n12:59
acheronukthat seems more reasonable. I thought you meant making a gazillion separate ones still13:08
acheronukwhichever way we go, you can bet debian will decide the other way :P13:09
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> well debian are in freeze, so effort is not on new stuff right now13:15
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> could be a while before they focus on new stuff again13:16
clivejoacheronuk: discover is workong better now14:31
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> :D14:31
clivejojust that crashing on exit14:32
acheronukThink that is a Qt issue14:33
clivejoupsteam know about it?14:34
acheronukdunno. been so many different discover crashes here and in Neon in the run up to 5.9, that I lose track!14:35
clivejoZesty is saying another program crashed too - ksplashqml14:36
clivejopart of plasma-workspace14:37
acheronuknot had that one14:37
acheronukKCI?14:37
clivejoyup14:41
clivejopopped up after discover crashed14:41
acheronukwill have to see if anyone gets in on actual zesty release stuff. KCI is all bleeding edge, so could just be that14:44
* ahoneybun raises hand14:44
acheronukahoneybun: which crash?14:45
ahoneybunI meant the testing wise14:46
ahoneybunI'm on ZZ14:46
clivejoahoneybun: this is KCI on Zesty testing14:46
ahoneybunohhh14:47
clivejobut plasma 5.9 on regular zesty is slowly filtering through14:47
acheronukdamn. a new k3b will need soundkonverter and audex removing from the archive. no getting around it14:49
acheronukthe new libs k3b needs replace the KDE4 ones they need, so they have to GO!14:50
blazeacheronuk: why replace?14:51
acheronukblaze: they are now ported to KF5 in 16.12 KDE applications, so will replace the old ones14:52
blazeI understand14:52
acheronukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soundkonverter/+bug/165992614:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1659926 in soundkonverter (Ubuntu) "Soundkonvertor needs to be ported to Qt5/KF5 or removed from zesty archive" [Undecided,New]14:53
blazebut can't they be installed both?14:53
acheronukno, as the new source replaces the old14:53
blazecan be worked around14:54
acheronuknot really14:54
acheronuk+ these 2 apps are pretty or completely dead anyway14:55
blazeyou can check liblastfm as an example, it is packaged both for qt4 and qt514:57
acheronukthis is part of KDE applications though14:58
acheronukand these 2 apps are going to get removed at some point soon. just a case of when14:58
acheronukclivejo: meeting?14:59
clivejoyup, we waiting on you14:59
blazeif so, I'm voting for kf5 k3b14:59
acheronukblaze: yep, taht is the conclusion I was coming to. It looks to be working nicely in KCI :)15:00
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nauticalnexusbeep15:29
nauticalnexusI'm only here for a bit15:29
* acheronuk licks BBB16:45
acheronuk*kicks16:45
acheronuklol16:45
BluesKajBBB?16:45
BluesKajoh big blue box or soime such ?16:47
acheronukyes16:49
* blaze has another version of how to expand this abbreviation16:55
blazewhich came up after the acheronuk's typo (be it intended or not)16:57
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IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> stop licking it17:08
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> no wonder its stalling17:08
ahoneybunno one on there now>17:12
ahoneybun?17:12
santa_good afternoon peoples17:14
santa_acheronuk, clivejo: whenever you have a few minutes I would like to have a mini-meeting17:15
DarinMillerhi santa_.  You may have just missed clive as he mentioned something about chinese food and returning in a few hours.17:16
santa_yep I have the phone running low on batt so I couldn't see it. thank you17:17
acheronuksanta_: was just talking on BBB with clive as per: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-January/011080.html17:17
acheronukmaybe you haven't yet caught up with the that email yet17:18
acheronuksanta_: IRC, or via BBB?17:19
santa_anyway, I will be typing my stuff17:19
santa_whichever you prefer17:19
acheronukI may say just go with IRC then, but let's see what clivejo thinks17:20
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nauticalnexusOkay I'm here for longer now17:54
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clivejohi santa_20:32
clivejohows things?20:32
santa_clivejo: great. so do you have a few minutes for that mini-meeting?20:35
clivejoI think so20:35
clivejowhats up?20:35
santa_acheronuk: are you around?20:36
* acheronuk ghosts in20:36
santa_ok20:36
valorienice to see you, santa_20:36
santa_thank you valorie20:37
wxlo/20:37
santa_clivejo, acheronuk: supose you suddenly wake up in a middle of maze. not a normal static 1maze, but one with moving walls. some walls move randomly and others move because of your actions, such as pressing buttons and so20:39
santa_in that situation it would be nice to have a GPS pointing your position and showing the layout and current status of the maze20:40
acheronuksounds like every morning20:40
valorielol20:41
valoriesounds like one of my nightmares20:41
acheronukexcept mine have spikes (metaphorically)20:41
santa_to be more narrow, I have that feeling when we upload stuff to the ubuntu devel release and we try to get the things out of -proposed20:42
clivejosanta_: yes, that is a major problem20:43
clivejowe dont know its going to fail, until it does20:43
santa_so in order to know better wtf is going on I have built an early version of a GPS for that maze20:43
santa_clivejo: that's indeed another related problem20:44
clivejoI wanted to talk to you about setting a testing environment on the elastic hosts server Rick T got for us20:44
santa_but right now I'm focusing on the "where tf am I?" "how should I move?"20:44
santa_clivejo: ok, we will talk about that in a few minutes then20:45
valorieha20:45
santa_clivejo, acheronuk; so right now I would like to test an early version of something I made yesterday in the night20:45
santa_it's ka-graph from KA20:46
santa_clivejo, acheronuk: so I need you to get an updated ka clone in a computer with kde, let me know when you are done20:47
acheronukdone20:47
clivejo+120:48
santa_ok, just type ka-graph -r frameworks20:48
DarinMiller+220:48
santa_that should open okular with a graph does that work for you?20:49
acheronukTraceback (most recent call last):                                                                                                                                                    20:49
acheronuk  File "/home/neo/kubuntu/ka/ka-graph", line 153, in <module>                                                                                                                         20:49
acheronuk    subprocess.check_call(['tred',tmpfile_raw_graph.name],stdout=tmpfile_final_graph)                                                                                                 20:49
acheronuk  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 266, in check_call                                                                                                                    20:49
acheronuk    retcode = call(*popenargs, **kwargs)                                                                                                                                              20:49
acheronuk  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 247, in call                                                                                                                          20:49
acheronuk    with Popen(*popenargs, **kwargs) as p:                                                                                                                                            20:49
acheronuk  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 676, in __init__                                                                                                                      20:49
acheronuk    restore_signals, start_new_session)                                                                                                                                               20:49
acheronuk  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 1282, in _execute_child                                                                                                               20:49
santa_oh, wait, wait20:49
acheronuk    raise child_exception_type(errno_num, err_msg)                                                                                                                                    20:49
acheronukFileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'tred20:49
acheronukwhoops!20:49
acheronuktoo late :P20:50
santa_I didn't update the ka-deps package yet20:50
santa_you need to have installed graphviz, ghostscript and okular packages20:50
clivejoworks on mine20:50
acheronukI guess I may be missing something 20:50
clivejobut I have okular kf520:50
clivejopretty graph :)20:50
santa_clive even better because I have the old okular so this way we will make sure it works fine on both20:51
santa_acheronuk: graphviz, ghostscript and okular installed?20:51
acheronukI have my plot20:52
DarinMillernice20:53
acheronukfor some reason it reminds me of a jellyfish20:53
santa_clivejo, acheronuk: now try ka-graph -r frameworks -t pm20:54
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hai wxl20:54
santa_it's going to take some time to load20:54
clivejovalorie and co with no ka - http://imgur.com/a/tNw8r20:54
valoriesuper!20:55
acheronuknice 20:55
santa_you got the "pm" graph loaded?20:56
* DarinMiller thinks that is quite awesome.20:56
acheronukI have20:56
clivejothat is impressive20:56
DarinMillergreen, orange, blue and red. very nice.20:56
clivejoso orange is what stuck in proposed20:57
santa_yes20:57
clivejoand I can click on it and it brings me to the excuses!20:57
santa_that's what I was about to say20:57
acheronukI'm clicking, and nothing happens20:58
DarinMilleryour balloons are clickable?20:58
DarinMillerditto, YY older version of okular...20:58
santa_I have the old one and it works20:59
DarinMillerby chance are we missing another package?20:59
santa_note that greeen nodes have no likns20:59
santa_* links20:59
santa_only packages with problems21:00
clivejosanta_: prison-k5 is showing as green, does it not check the version?21:00
DarinMillerterminal window says: BusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon ...21:00
santa_clivejo: not yet, this is a very early version21:00
clivejoah ok21:00
santa_clivejo: also it doesn't take into account packages stuck in new and such21:01
clivejois it possible to check that?21:01
santa_checking that the source package has the correct version in case of "upload accident" would be easy21:02
santa_about the packages stuck in new I would need to figure out something21:02
clivejowell prison is new in frameworks and we haven't yet got it added to Kubuntu packageset21:02
clivejotrying to find an MOTU to upload it21:03
acheronukstill no working links. clicking does nothing at all21:03
santa_clivejo: so for that case it would be a matter of just checking the correct version21:04
santa_we can build up a small list of things to improve/add later21:05
clivejois there any way of checking this against the official KDE dep tree?21:05
santa_acheronuk: hovering the mouse over the node shows the link at least?21:05
clivejoI take it this graph is current, as in our packaging at this time21:05
acheronuksanta_: no, it doesn't even show that21:05
santa_yes21:05
santa_clivejo: it takes the data from package-metadata21:06
santa_in case it isn't obvious enough21:06
santa_an edge a -> b21:06
santa_means b build depends on any of the binary packages provided by a21:06
acheronuksanta_: works in masterpdfeditor321:11
acheronukwhich is odd21:11
santa_what are you using in the desktop in question? zesty?21:11
acheronukyes21:12
santa_well, let's hope it gets better21:12
santa_note that we can make the pdf viewer configurable to work around that, as I said this is just the earliest version of this thing21:13
acheronukatril from mate desktop also works. odd.21:18
acheronukanyway, can sort that later....21:19
clivejocan that be made into a webpage?21:21
santa_probably21:21
clivejovery nice21:22
acheronuksanta_: deleted my okular config files, and now seems ok :)21:32
DarinMillerin the .config dir?21:32
santa_oh, maybe that can be disabled in the ui21:33
acheronukDarinMiller: yes, though I deleted ~/.local/share/okular as well21:34
acheronuksanta_: if it can, I couldn't find the option, which is why I nuked the configs21:35
santa_aha21:35
DarinMiller~/.kde/share/config/ only files I could find were here <-, deleting fixed for me too.21:38
DarinMillerthat rocks!21:40
* DarinMiller likes late x-mas presents.21:42
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santa_so I presume you had now some time to play around with this new tool, so I would like to move forward to another related topic21:46
santa_acheronuk: I saw you reverted my last commit to kubuntu-retry-builds which introduced a major bug21:46
santa_that commit had a bunch of changes21:47
santa_the most important one was a (failed) attempt to deal with the "binary packages stuck in the new queue" situation21:48
santa_so I broke up the changes made by the commit you reverted and re-applied all the other changes except the faulty attempt to deal with the packages stuck in the new queue21:49
santa_so right now we still have the new queue problem but at least the retry-builds script is suposed to work21:50
santa_that being said,21:50
acheronuksanta_: sorry, at the time just wanted something that worked21:51
santa_no problem, you did the right thing do21:51
santa_I just completed a bit more what you did21:51
santa_clivejo: I think we need to run it against frameworks (see the graph :P)21:52
santa_and once we got all the fw built we would be able to use it against plasma21:52
wxloh fyi clivejo that stupid konversation for yakkety includes a ton of translations resulting in a half meg debdiff. so it may take some work to get a sponsor, but i'm trying.21:55
valorieyay!21:56
clivejounfornuately the graph doesnt show why some are stuck :(21:56
santa_yes, only if you click the thing21:58
clivejoso many stuck in the NEW queue21:59
clivejosanta_: fancy poke and proding the release team21:59
santa_but wrt to those in dep-wait and FTBFS'ing you see clearly the blocker21:59
clivejoyes, I love the visual element to it22:00
clivejosanta_: BTW did you read we have moved to phab?22:00
santa_clivejo: I think this "kubuntu-retry-builds -f -r frameworks -d zesty -a" will unblock the few remaining packages not being built22:00
santa_clivejo: yeah, you mentioned PHAB22:01
santa_* phap22:01
santa_* phabricator22:01
santa_god damn it XD22:01
clivejowe are attempting to put our docs on there22:01
valorieimo it's going well22:02
santa_which docs?22:02
santa_what we have in community.kde.org?22:02
clivejoall packaging docs (fingers crossed)22:02
clivejohttps://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/kubuntu-automation/ka-graph/22:03
santa_ah, ok22:03
santa_I see, yes it would be nice to have a complete reference of all the ka commands22:04
santa_right now we just have the README.source, which is fine of course, but it's also nice to have a manpage-like doc for each command22:05
clivejowe hacked the gbp-ppa script slighty22:06
clivejoso that when it warns you that the branch is not correct, you can choose to override it22:06
clivejosometimes I was to use gbp-ppa in kubuntu_unstable branch and it was exiting with an error22:07
santa_ok22:08
clivejo!info digikam22:12
ubottudigikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.4.0-0ubuntu3 (zesty), package size 67 kB, installed size 1787 kB22:12
clivejoacheronuk: would you add a comment on https://phabricator.kde.org/T5175 about why we can't upload k3b at the moment22:18
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clivejosanta_: what should the script be retrying?22:41
clivejoSummary:22:43
clivejo----------------------------------------------------------------------22:43
clivejoRebuild candidates: 22:43
clivejo Total: 49322:43
clivejo Skipped: 49322:43
clivejo Valid: 022:43
clivejo Actually rebuilt: 022:43
santa_clivejo: kactivities-kf522:44
acheronuksanta_: that is built22:45
acheronukwe retried those earlier22:45
acheronukmanually poked22:45
santa_ah, ok22:47
santa_I see. so you can proceed with plasma retries apparently22:47
santa_clivejo: ↑22:48
clivejoack22:48
clivejowxl: does the time of the weekly meeting not suit you?22:51
wxlclivejo: it does-- normally22:52
acheronuksanta_: at the moment, the new kf5 libkf5cddb in apps 16.12.1 would replace the old libkcddb4 that a couple of old pretty unsupported KDE4 applications in the archive need22:54
acheronukand we want the new KF5 libs to have a new K3b cd burner for kubuntu22:54
acheronukat the moment it seems one way would be to reture thsoe old KDE apps from the archive?22:55
acheronukopinions?22:55
acheronuk*retire22:55
santa_uploading the old libkcddb with a different source package name would be the thing to do22:56
* valorie votes for retire22:56
valorieI've tried those over and over for years, and they Did Not Work22:57
acheronukfor example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soundkonverter/+bug/165992622:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1659926 in soundkonverter (Ubuntu) "Soundkonvertor needs to be ported to Qt5/KF5 or removed from zesty archive" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:57
valorieperhaps they did for someone, at some point22:57
valoriebut not for me22:57
valorieI even blogged about it22:57
santa_or alternatively remove it along with its reverse dependencies as long as the reverse dependencies are completely broken22:58
acheronukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audex/+bug/165993422:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1659934 in audex (Ubuntu) "Audex needs to be ported to Qt5/KF5 or removed from zesty archive" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:59
valorieyears ago sitter tried to get things working back when he was the Phonon God22:59
valoriebut ..... broken23:00
acheronukwell, push comes to shove I would rather have a KF5 version of K3b which we seed and support, than some ropey old KDE4 stiff which we don't cluttering up the archive23:02
valorieamen to that23:04
acheronukrenaming the old libkcddb source would be an alternative, but we have enough hassle getting our normal stuff in. and I suspect these 2 apps that need it will not be long with us 23:04
acheronukto be blunt, I want a KF5 K3b, as that is part of our supported set. I just want a way to do it23:05
clivejohere here23:05
valorieamen, brother! 23:06
acheronukbinning a couple of KDE4 apps a cycle earielr say than might have  happened seems a fair trade to me23:06
valoriepreaching to the choir I think23:06
valoriethey have been stinky for years23:06
acheronuksee: https://github.com/dfaust/soundkonverter/issues/2323:06
valorieput 'em in the compost pile!23:06
valoriewhat the hell23:07
acheronukthat dev has no interest in porting23:07
valoriegithub issues!23:07
valoriethat isn't even a KDE app any more23:07
valoriekill it with fire23:07
acheronuklol. indeed23:07
acheronukvalorie: https://cgit.kde.org/k3b.git/commit/?id=e0da90a0f2d26456b89b17e65d70f1d5b42dff7123:09
acheronukso it's coming for us, anyway23:10
acheronukthe KF5 version is working in KCI23:11
valoriecool23:11
valoriegood to see the gardening effort worked to get that raised from the dead23:11
clivejoahoneybun: have you fixed this yet - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/16.10.0 ?23:29
clivejohttps://phabricator.kde.org/T5117 should that just be a recommends on dolpin?23:34
sintrei don't connect via my phone to pc23:35
sintrebut if i ever wanted to would like it to be able to :)23:35
sintremy phone i andoid as well23:35
acheronukclivejo: unless discover is broke without it, then a recommends max I would say23:36
clivejodiscover?23:37
acheronukdolphin23:37
* acheronuk yawns23:37
valoriesintre: kdeconnect doesn't work for you?23:38
valorie!info kdeconnect23:38
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu2 (zesty), package size 407 kB, installed size 2010 kB23:38
sintreneer tried it23:38
sintrenever23:39
sintrei think he was talking about direct access to the dolphin file manager23:39
sintremaybe i mis understood23:39
clivejoacheronuk: maybe suggests?23:39
clivejolike the user decide if its installed?23:39
clivejolet23:39
* sintre adds more stuff to trst next week23:40
valoriewell, there are ssh apps for that23:41
sintrei think loaded and rdy to go apps , small foot print if you need em kind app23:41
valorieI don't think there is a dolphin app for android though23:42
sintremaybe a middle man program of some sorts?23:42
acheronukclivejo: not sure. enough people will expect their phone/tablet to just plug in and work, that I think a recommends23:42
valoriekdeconnect is good for me23:42
sintredoes it work both wifi and blue tooth?23:43
valorienetwork23:43
valorieno bluetooth as yet23:43
sintrewifi23:43
sintreahh23:43
sintrenot sure if my junk phone can handle multiple connections via wifi23:44
sintrebut considering it'll connect to anything it finds i'd like to think it would23:44
clivejowhere did this task come from?23:48
sintremy cheap 40 dollar phone ?23:49
sintrej/k23:49
clivejoovidiuflorin: you?23:49
clivejohttps://trello.com/c/eQUbTZ0P23:50
clivejois there a LP bug anywhere23:50
sintrelooked at that , looks nasty23:51
sintreif i ever wanted to plug phone directly into pc23:52
valorieoh, that's why I can't directly move stuff anymore via dolphin23:52
valoriedamned mtp23:52
clivejovalorie: is there LP bugs open for it?23:52
valorieunsure, I just grumbled23:53
* clivejo rolls eyes23:53
sintrelast updated december 5th23:54
tsimonq2I'm doing a widespread testing and fixing spree23:54
tsimonq2Cloning EVERYTHING and making sure we have autopkgtests for everything.23:55
clivejoI wonde should it be a Recommends on kio ?23:55
tsimonq2s/autopkgtests/working autopkgtests/23:55
clivejohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kio-mtp/+bug/123389823:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1233898 in kio-mtp (Ubuntu) "kio-mtp misbehaves after opening a photo with Gwenview, the device resets" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:55
valoriebut I'll look23:56
valoriegosh how I hate searching LP for bug reports23:56
clivejoit really is confusing23:56
clivejoI thought it was just me23:56
valoriebko is a model of clarity in comparison23:56
valorieand that's saying something23:57
acheronuktsimonq2: we have enough autopkgtests, thanks23:57
clivejotsimonq2: how about fixing the ones we got23:57
valoriethose kio-mtp bugs are all in 2013 (that I've seen)23:57
clivejorather than adding more23:57
tsimonq2clivejo: That was my plan23:57
tsimonq2Yep Yep Yep23:57
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tsimonq2Go through and fix whatever then yeah23:57
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acheronukdo that then23:58
acheronukthe ones we have are pain enough!23:58
tsimonq2acheronuk: Shush shush. Don't look at autopkgtests as a bad thing!23:58
clivejook the kio-mtp seems to be dead23:58
tsimonq2I'm just gonna go fix 'em all...23:58
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtp/+bugs <--- this is more like it23:59
valoriebut not our bugs23:59

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