[00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #1: UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/1/ [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #1: UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/1/ [00:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #1: UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/1/ [00:31] yippeee [00:32] 15/8/16 [00:34] clivejo: ? [00:35] so cryptic! [00:35] yippeee @ rik making KCI build kirigami2 [00:35] unstable means that some tests are failing? [00:35] the date was a mistake as I was looking up an invoice [00:36] lintian warnings [00:36] get tsimonq2 to fix those [00:36] valorie: just lintian whinging [00:36] k [00:40] acheronuk: so is that both v1 and v2 building now? [00:41] or just v2 on KCI and well do v1 manually? [00:41] no, both actually v2 in KCI. just we now have one properly called that. [00:41] we can probably get rid of v1 [00:42] Ill need it for peruse etc in KCI [00:43] maybe upload one manually [00:43] clivejo: 1.1 in git is only one commit ahead of the debian synced zesty I think? [00:43] ok [00:44] so as you say, maybe easier to do manually, assuming no great changes upstream to v1 now [00:45] 24/10 [00:45] grrrr [00:45] * clivejo can't multitask [00:45] ???? [00:46] LOL Im doing up accounts for last year [00:46] 24/10/2016 refund from ebay [00:47] because Royal Mail - Belfast detected a coin battery and it was sent back to sender [00:48] they cant detect drugs or bullets, but they can find a watch battery! [00:48] * clivejo rolls eyes [00:49] USPS is better :P [00:50] I go sleep sleep now [00:51] I watched a NOVA about batteries last night [00:51] a what? [00:51] some of those fires and explosions are *impressive* [00:51] but I've never heard of a watch battery exploding [00:51] NOVA is a great science series on PBS [00:53] They are crazy here [00:54] there are watch batteries turning up in chocolate bunny rabbits :/ [00:54] * tsimonq2 dreams about batteries [00:54] so when a child eats it, it corrodes their insides and cause internal burns :/ [00:54] nasty [00:55] ! [00:55] dear god [00:56] and yet the news are reporting "Vegetable Crisis" [00:56] growing up i was assumed i wasn't that fu**** dumb [00:56] i made it lol [00:57] unfortunately I live in a nanny state [00:57] be afraid of the easter bunny [00:57] where hot water taps need warnings saying "Caution: Hot Water" [00:58] fk it i need a new water heater stop reminding me, only a 30 gallon one :/ [01:00] well our cautions here in u.s. were mostly for lawsuit prevention not idiot prevention [01:00] like "wet floor" signs and stuff [01:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #23 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED) [01:22] valorie: plasm uploaded [01:23] minus discover, but shall do that tomorrow after some changes. [01:23] nigh night all :) [01:32] ok iritating thing [01:32] have two windows closed [01:33] oje is playing you tube video one is this chat [01:33] it keeps changing locations on the bar at bottom [01:33] left right left right [01:33] its like playing wack-a mole to get the right window lol [01:34] probally not a bug , but i think consistent placement in sequence of openeing would be better than whack a-mole [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_pause_integration build #23: ABORTED in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_pause_integration/23/ [01:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #2: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/2/ [01:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #2: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/2/ [01:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #2: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/2/ [01:59] yes! Today's os-loader patch fixed the multi-boot grub issue! Thanks dino99!!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/1660159 [01:59] Launchpad bug 1660159 in os-prober (Ubuntu Zesty) "os-prober fails to see other installed systems" [Critical,Fix released] [02:04] DarinMiller: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/4:5.9.0-0ubuntu1 [02:12] Yes, I am now booted into one of my other partitions :) Now if we can just fix libgpgme, 17.04 will be in great shape. [02:13] Good to see santa's back. Any progress today with libgpgme? [02:13] * DarinMiller starts reading the daily log.... [03:08] woooo, new Plasma! [03:09] DarinMiller: lest you get too happy, we've not sorted PIM at all [03:09] still, progress [03:10] and perhaps we can get PIM done before beta 1 [03:10] that would be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious [03:11] not in time fore super bowl [03:11] :( [03:11] gotta draga cable box out to livining room with big screen [03:55] so, is there anyway I can help out here? [04:01] testing out the alpha ands giving feedback , i'm sure would be welcome [04:02] but nobody would want you to do something that could hurt your primary [04:05] alpha for what? [04:06] next version of ubuntu [04:06] :o [04:06] and turns uinto kubuntu [04:06] I did that with 16.04 [04:06] I run KDE Neon though [04:07] valorie could probally take you further in how to help [04:29] But Valorie we have Jonathan's secret decoder map. It should be a piece of cake (http://weegie.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/PIM.png ) :) [04:33] lol [04:33] DarinMiller: they split it since that was made! [04:34] nauticalnexus: testing the alpha is the most helpful right now [04:34] :) [04:34] follow the QA links in the /topic [04:35] new QA links page nearly ready [04:35] but that one will work, just ignore "smoke tests" [05:37] * DarinMiller is attempting to fix plasma-sdk again. sbuilding now... [05:39] Status: successful! [05:40] :D [05:42] * DarinMiller wonders why qml-module-org-kde-kirigami version bump from (>= 1.1.0~) to (>= 1.1.0-1~) fixed the problem. Seem like (>= 1.1.0~) should be sufficient. [05:43] * nauticalnexus wonders what all that means. [05:46] nauticalnexus: I am still learning so I do a lot of thinking out loud. Hopefully someone will redirect me if I wander off in the weeds.... [05:46] oh no I literally know nothing [05:46] haha [05:46] I'm actually here to learn :o [05:50] nauticalnexus: have you used cvs's such as git or svn? [05:50] I know what a git is :O [05:51] to your are familiar with cloning, checking out, merging and pushing? [05:51] so you are.... [05:51] I know how to clone [05:51] and I guess merging [05:51] I used to manage a kernel on the AUR [05:52] You packaged kernels for AUR? [05:53] a kernel [05:54] I have not packages a kernel, only installed using dpkg -i *.deb. What was involved in packaging the AUR kernel? [05:55] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-cik/ [05:55] just modifying a PKGBUILD file, updating checksums [05:55] pushing the changes to the git url there [05:55] kernel is useless now, however. The changes have been merged into the official Arch kernel [05:56] cool :) [05:56] yup [05:56] because of me [05:56] I opened up a feature request half a year ago [05:56] for that to be enabled. [05:56] it showed a lot of people who wanted it, so they did it [05:56] I'm probably gonna do the same for Ubuntu [05:57] I enabled the thing on KDE Neon, with the stock Ubuntu kernel. 60fps maxed out 1080p DiRT Showdown, really nice [05:57] * nauticalnexus uses AMD [05:57] anyhoo [05:57] I'm apparently good at editing configs so [05:57] very nice. [05:57] I mean I can definitely manage a git repo [05:58] I just need a refresher [06:00] I had the misconception when I started "helping" here that since I could dissect a deb file and rip apart and rebuild iso's, packaging can't any harder.... [06:00] :P [06:01] the most packaging I've done was hexchat 2.12.4 [06:01] I packaged the hell out of that [06:01] lol [06:01] "2.12.0 in official repos? NOOOOOOOO. NEED DAT .4" [06:01] I discovered that though it's not difficult, there are many ways to things wrong. And I am not able to log in when all the smart people are online. So getting over the learn curves has been slow. [06:03] well I'm not smart in that area sorry [06:03] now, if this were a git repo we were talking about... :P [06:05] has anyone pointed you to the ubuntu packaging basic links? i.e. the links that talk about launchpad account setup, gpg keys, registering gpc keys, git config, etc? [06:11] once you have all the the launchpad setup complete and a reasonable understanding of the git process and debian package structure, then you are ready to dive into the kci build failures (yellow belt stuff that I am attempting). [06:11] I have a launchpad acc [06:12] I have a gpg key, I don't know what a gpc key is, I think you might've meant gpg? [06:12] its a typo :) [06:12] gpg key [06:12] it's cool :P [06:12] I have one :o how do I register [06:13] have you registered your gpg key on lp and signed the lp code of conduct with it? [06:13] .....no [06:13] I don't even know how to do any of that :o [06:13] go to you lp page, i.e mine is https://launchpad.net/~darinsmiller [06:14] replace my username with your lp username [06:14] hmm [06:14] appears I've done it before but it's an older key [06:15] it's one I don't have on my machine anymore :o [06:15] yeah, had registered a passcoded gpp key long before I started packaging and by the time I tried to use it, I had forgotten the pass phrase. [06:16] so i had to delete and add a new one. [06:16] I don't even have the secret key [06:19] nauticalnexus: follow these directions here: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html [06:20] do you have pbuilder or sbuilder setup on your box? You won't need those until later .... I was just curious if you have used them before... [06:22] * DarinMiller suspects the libgpg issue with 5.9 blocking his ability to push his plasma-sdk update to lp.... [06:23] might have to switch to my YY box until libgpg is ironed out.... [06:24] nauticalnexus: what is your timezone? Are you in the US? [06:25] sorry [06:25] east coast [06:25] Mountain time here... [06:27] >ubuntu implying I use bash [06:28] zsh master race [06:28] Assuming I am able to assist, similar timezones should minimize roadblock issues that I encountered when I was trying to setup everything.... [06:30] what is your *nix background? work related? or crazy PC fanatic who finds adventure in opensouce community? [06:30] * DarinMiller is both.... [06:30] no, maybe [06:31] Jesus I'm tired [06:32] I plan to login tomorrow if you want any help with your setup environment. Reading some this setup stuff when tired can be quite draining. [06:34] um [06:35] I can't sign the code of conduct for some reason [06:35] well I can but [06:35] I copy it and paste the signed code and it says no public key [06:35] but the key is public [06:36] ugh [06:36] I had to send it the old fashioned way [06:36] my gpg key [06:38] and you are using a gpg key that you uploaded to lp and confirmed by following the decrypted email link? [06:41] yeah [06:41] I only have one [06:41] only 1 is needed [06:43] it's so neato seeing my key on a keyserver [06:44] I uploaded it to other ones too :o [06:44] So if you go to your lp page and click on the icon next to the OpenPGP keys, your key listed under teh active keys section? [06:44] yeah [06:44] I did like everything there too btw :P [06:45] but code of conduct would not accept your key? [06:45] it did [06:45] oh, cool [06:45] after I did gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys whateverhtenumberis [06:45] https://launchpad.net/~absynthesyne [06:45] there's my lp thingy [06:45] it's all chill [06:46] I'm tired as hell though [06:46] very good. Well, I think I am going to call it a night here. [06:46] yeah, night [06:46] gn. [09:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/3/ [09:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/3/ [09:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_peruse build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 7 min 48 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_peruse/69/ [09:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/3/ [09:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_peruse build #70: FIXED in 8 min 51 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_peruse/70/ [10:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/4/ [10:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/4/ [10:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/4/ [10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kirigami2 build #5: FIXED in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kirigami2/5/ [10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami2 build #5: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami2/5/ [10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami2 build #5: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami2/5/ [11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_peruse build #27: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_peruse/27/ [11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_peruse build #59: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_peruse/59/ [11:44] @DarinMiller, I've done POCs for this before, I should remake the PIM map :P [11:45] Howdy folks [11:46] Morning BluesKaj [11:47] 'Morning tsimonq2 [12:02] clivejo: please try discover and peruse. you'll need to force downgrade qml-module-org-kde-kirigami to 1.1.0-1 for peruse [12:03] force downgrade = purge! [12:04] not always, but you can do it like that [12:09] doing an upgrade [12:09] will take a while :/ [12:10] clivejo: peruse is looking in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ for it knsrc file for some reason, instead of the proper /etc/xdg/ [12:11] I symlinked the 2 to fix, but will need looking into for if/when we ship peruse [12:11] doesnt look likely at this point [12:12] we'll have to wait until tsimonq2 gets his MOTU [12:12] and Archive Admin [12:19] clivejo: when? [12:19] I really really want to split calligra translations from calligra-data to calligra-l10n [12:20] blaze: when what? [12:21] clivejo: why? [12:21] * clivejo is confused [12:21] why split it? [12:21] I dunno [12:22] feels undebian to put it in -data [12:22] clivejo: motu for Simon [12:23] it can be split out later if that becomes apparent. but if done now, makes it a royal pain to backtrack if it's not needed [12:24] IMO ^^^ [12:25] blaze: I think he plans to work on it over the next few months [12:26] Yep [12:26] Can't sleep... [12:29] * acheronuk heads for lunch [12:58] well debian packaged kdevelop and the language files are in kdevelop-l10n [12:59] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:5.0.1-3ubuntu2 [12:59] and the same with krita [12:59] so just seems like a standard to put the in package-l10n [13:08] that seems more reasonable. I thought you meant making a gazillion separate ones still [13:09] whichever way we go, you can bet debian will decide the other way :P [13:15] well debian are in freeze, so effort is not on new stuff right now [13:16] could be a while before they focus on new stuff again [14:31] acheronuk: discover is workong better now [14:31] :D [14:32] just that crashing on exit [14:33] Think that is a Qt issue [14:34] upsteam know about it? [14:35] dunno. been so many different discover crashes here and in Neon in the run up to 5.9, that I lose track! [14:36] Zesty is saying another program crashed too - ksplashqml [14:37] part of plasma-workspace [14:37] not had that one [14:37] KCI? [14:41] yup [14:41] popped up after discover crashed [14:44] will have to see if anyone gets in on actual zesty release stuff. KCI is all bleeding edge, so could just be that [14:44] * ahoneybun raises hand [14:45] ahoneybun: which crash? [14:46] I meant the testing wise [14:46] I'm on ZZ [14:46] ahoneybun: this is KCI on Zesty testing [14:47] ohhh [14:47] but plasma 5.9 on regular zesty is slowly filtering through [14:49] damn. a new k3b will need soundkonverter and audex removing from the archive. no getting around it [14:50] the new libs k3b needs replace the KDE4 ones they need, so they have to GO! [14:51] acheronuk: why replace? [14:52] blaze: they are now ported to KF5 in 16.12 KDE applications, so will replace the old ones [14:52] I understand [14:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soundkonverter/+bug/1659926 [14:53] Launchpad bug 1659926 in soundkonverter (Ubuntu) "Soundkonvertor needs to be ported to Qt5/KF5 or removed from zesty archive" [Undecided,New] [14:53] but can't they be installed both? [14:53] no, as the new source replaces the old [14:54] can be worked around [14:54] not really [14:55] + these 2 apps are pretty or completely dead anyway [14:57] you can check liblastfm as an example, it is packaged both for qt4 and qt5 [14:58] this is part of KDE applications though [14:58] and these 2 apps are going to get removed at some point soon. just a case of when [14:59] clivejo: meeting? [14:59] yup, we waiting on you [14:59] if so, I'm voting for kf5 k3b [15:00] blaze: yep, taht is the conclusion I was coming to. It looks to be working nicely in KCI :) [15:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk build #97: STILL FAILING in 4 min 45 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk/97/ [15:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk build #98: STILL FAILING in 6 min 42 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk/98/ [15:29] beep [15:29] I'm only here for a bit [16:45] * acheronuk licks BBB [16:45] *kicks [16:45] lol [16:45] BBB? [16:47] oh big blue box or soime such ? [16:49] yes [16:55] * blaze has another version of how to expand this abbreviation [16:57] which came up after the acheronuk's typo (be it intended or not) === himcesjf is now known as Guest39482 === Guest39482 is now known as him-cesjf [17:08] stop licking it [17:08] no wonder its stalling [17:12] no one on there now> [17:12] ? [17:14] good afternoon peoples [17:15] acheronuk, clivejo: whenever you have a few minutes I would like to have a mini-meeting [17:16] hi santa_. You may have just missed clive as he mentioned something about chinese food and returning in a few hours. [17:17] yep I have the phone running low on batt so I couldn't see it. thank you [17:17] santa_: was just talking on BBB with clive as per: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-January/011080.html [17:18] maybe you haven't yet caught up with the that email yet [17:19] santa_: IRC, or via BBB? [17:19] anyway, I will be typing my stuff [17:19] whichever you prefer [17:20] I may say just go with IRC then, but let's see what clivejo thinks [17:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #174: FAILURE in 5 min 1 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/174/ [17:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_calligra build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_calligra/74/ [17:54] Okay I'm here for longer now [17:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_calligra build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_calligra/74/ [18:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #141: FAILURE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/141/ [18:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #175: STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/175/ [18:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #129: FAILURE in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/129/ [18:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #142: STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/142/ [18:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_calligra build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 32 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_calligra/72/ [18:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #130: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/130/ [19:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_k3b build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_k3b/25/ [19:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_k3b build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_k3b/25/ [19:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_k3b build #26: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_k3b/26/ [19:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_calligra build #75: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_calligra/75/ [19:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_calligra build #73: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 21 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_calligra/73/ [20:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_calligra build #75: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_calligra/75/ [20:32] hi santa_ [20:32] hows things? [20:35] clivejo: great. so do you have a few minutes for that mini-meeting? [20:35] I think so [20:35] whats up? [20:36] acheronuk: are you around? [20:36] * acheronuk ghosts in [20:36] ok [20:36] nice to see you, santa_ [20:37] thank you valorie [20:37] o/ [20:39] clivejo, acheronuk: supose you suddenly wake up in a middle of maze. not a normal static 1maze, but one with moving walls. some walls move randomly and others move because of your actions, such as pressing buttons and so [20:40] in that situation it would be nice to have a GPS pointing your position and showing the layout and current status of the maze [20:40] sounds like every morning [20:41] lol [20:41] sounds like one of my nightmares [20:41] except mine have spikes (metaphorically) [20:42] to be more narrow, I have that feeling when we upload stuff to the ubuntu devel release and we try to get the things out of -proposed [20:43] santa_: yes, that is a major problem [20:43] we dont know its going to fail, until it does [20:43] so in order to know better wtf is going on I have built an early version of a GPS for that maze [20:44] clivejo: that's indeed another related problem [20:44] I wanted to talk to you about setting a testing environment on the elastic hosts server Rick T got for us [20:44] but right now I'm focusing on the "where tf am I?" "how should I move?" [20:45] clivejo: ok, we will talk about that in a few minutes then [20:45] ha [20:45] clivejo, acheronuk; so right now I would like to test an early version of something I made yesterday in the night [20:46] it's ka-graph from KA [20:47] clivejo, acheronuk: so I need you to get an updated ka clone in a computer with kde, let me know when you are done [20:47] done [20:48] +1 [20:48] ok, just type ka-graph -r frameworks [20:48] +2 [20:49] that should open okular with a graph does that work for you? [20:49] Traceback (most recent call last): [20:49] File "/home/neo/kubuntu/ka/ka-graph", line 153, in [20:49] subprocess.check_call(['tred',tmpfile_raw_graph.name],stdout=tmpfile_final_graph) [20:49] File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 266, in check_call [20:49] retcode = call(*popenargs, **kwargs) [20:49] File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 247, in call [20:49] with Popen(*popenargs, **kwargs) as p: [20:49] File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 676, in __init__ [20:49] restore_signals, start_new_session) [20:49] File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 1282, in _execute_child [20:49] oh, wait, wait [20:49] raise child_exception_type(errno_num, err_msg) [20:49] FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'tred [20:49] whoops! [20:50] too late :P [20:50] I didn't update the ka-deps package yet [20:50] you need to have installed graphviz, ghostscript and okular packages [20:50] works on mine [20:50] I guess I may be missing something [20:50] but I have okular kf5 [20:50] pretty graph :) [20:51] clive even better because I have the old okular so this way we will make sure it works fine on both [20:51] acheronuk: graphviz, ghostscript and okular installed? [20:52] I have my plot [20:53] nice [20:53] for some reason it reminds me of a jellyfish [20:54] clivejo, acheronuk: now try ka-graph -r frameworks -t pm [20:54] Hai wxl [20:54] it's going to take some time to load [20:54] valorie and co with no ka - http://imgur.com/a/tNw8r [20:55] super! [20:55] nice [20:56] you got the "pm" graph loaded? [20:56] * DarinMiller thinks that is quite awesome. [20:56] I have [20:56] that is impressive [20:56] green, orange, blue and red. very nice. [20:57] so orange is what stuck in proposed [20:57] yes [20:57] and I can click on it and it brings me to the excuses! [20:57] that's what I was about to say [20:58] I'm clicking, and nothing happens [20:58] your balloons are clickable? [20:58] ditto, YY older version of okular... [20:59] I have the old one and it works [20:59] by chance are we missing another package? [20:59] note that greeen nodes have no likns [20:59] * links [21:00] only packages with problems [21:00] santa_: prison-k5 is showing as green, does it not check the version? [21:00] terminal window says: BusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon ... [21:00] clivejo: not yet, this is a very early version [21:00] ah ok [21:01] clivejo: also it doesn't take into account packages stuck in new and such [21:01] is it possible to check that? [21:02] checking that the source package has the correct version in case of "upload accident" would be easy [21:02] about the packages stuck in new I would need to figure out something [21:02] well prison is new in frameworks and we haven't yet got it added to Kubuntu packageset [21:03] trying to find an MOTU to upload it [21:03] still no working links. clicking does nothing at all [21:04] clivejo: so for that case it would be a matter of just checking the correct version [21:05] we can build up a small list of things to improve/add later [21:05] is there any way of checking this against the official KDE dep tree? [21:05] acheronuk: hovering the mouse over the node shows the link at least? [21:05] I take it this graph is current, as in our packaging at this time [21:05]