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[00:31] <clivejo> yippeee
[00:32] <clivejo> 15/8/16
[00:34] <valorie> clivejo: ?
[00:35] <valorie> so cryptic!
[00:35] <clivejo> yippeee @ rik making KCI build kirigami2
[00:35] <valorie> unstable means that some tests are failing?
[00:35] <clivejo> the date was a mistake as I was looking up an invoice
[00:36] <clivejo> lintian warnings
[00:36] <clivejo> get tsimonq2 to fix those
[00:36] <acheronuk> valorie: just lintian whinging
[00:36] <valorie> k
[00:40] <clivejo> acheronuk: so is that both v1 and v2 building now?
[00:41] <clivejo> or just v2 on KCI and well do v1 manually?
[00:41] <acheronuk> no, both actually v2 in KCI. just we now have one properly called that.
[00:41] <acheronuk> we can probably get rid of v1
[00:42] <clivejo> Ill need it for peruse etc in KCI
[00:43] <clivejo> maybe upload one manually
[00:43] <acheronuk> clivejo: 1.1 in git is only one commit ahead of the debian synced zesty I think?
[00:43] <clivejo> ok
[00:44] <acheronuk> so as you say, maybe easier to do manually, assuming no great changes upstream to v1 now
[00:45] <clivejo> 24/10
[00:45] <clivejo> grrrr
[00:45]  * clivejo can't multitask
[00:45] <acheronuk> ????
[00:46] <clivejo> LOL Im doing up accounts for last year
[00:46] <clivejo> 24/10/2016 refund from ebay
[00:47] <clivejo> because Royal Mail - Belfast detected a coin battery and it was sent back to sender
[00:48] <clivejo> they cant detect drugs or bullets, but they can find a watch battery!
[00:48]  * clivejo rolls eyes
 USPS is better :P
 I go sleep sleep now
[00:51] <valorie> I watched a NOVA about batteries last night
[00:51] <clivejo> a what?
[00:51] <valorie> some of those fires and explosions are *impressive*
[00:51] <valorie> but I've never heard of a watch battery exploding
[00:51] <valorie> NOVA is a great science series on PBS
[00:53] <clivejo> They are crazy here
[00:54] <clivejo> there are watch batteries turning up in chocolate bunny rabbits :/
[00:54] <clivejo> so when a child eats it, it corrodes their insides and cause internal burns :/
[00:54] <clivejo> nasty
[00:55] <valorie> !
[00:55] <valorie> dear god
[00:56] <clivejo> and yet the news are reporting "Vegetable Crisis"
[00:56] <sintre> growing up i was assumed i wasn't that fu**** dumb
[00:56] <sintre> i made it lol
[00:57] <clivejo> unfortunately I live in a nanny state
[00:57] <sintre> be afraid of the easter bunny
[00:57] <clivejo> where hot water taps need warnings saying "Caution: Hot Water"
[00:58] <sintre> fk it i need a new water heater stop reminding me, only a 30 gallon one :/
[01:00] <sintre> well our cautions here in u.s. were mostly for lawsuit prevention not idiot prevention
[01:00] <sintre> like "wet floor" signs and stuff
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[01:22] <acheronuk> valorie: plasm uploaded
[01:23] <acheronuk> minus discover, but shall do that tomorrow after some changes.
[01:23] <acheronuk> nigh night all :)
[01:32] <sintre> ok iritating thing
[01:32] <sintre> have two windows closed
[01:33] <sintre> oje is playing you tube video one is this chat
[01:33] <sintre> it keeps changing locations on the bar at bottom
[01:33] <sintre> left right left right
[01:33] <sintre> its like playing wack-a mole to get the right window lol
[01:34] <sintre> probally not a bug , but i think consistent placement in sequence of openeing would be better than whack a-mole
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[01:59] <DarinMiller> yes! Today's os-loader patch fixed the multi-boot grub issue! Thanks dino99!!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/1660159
[02:04] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/4:5.9.0-0ubuntu1
[02:12] <DarinMiller> Yes, I am now booted into one of my other partitions :)  Now if we can just fix libgpgme, 17.04 will be in great shape.  
[02:13] <DarinMiller> Good to see santa's back.  Any progress today with libgpgme?
[02:13]  * DarinMiller starts reading the daily log....
[03:08] <valorie> woooo, new Plasma!
[03:09] <valorie> DarinMiller: lest you get too happy, we've not sorted PIM at all
[03:09] <valorie> still, progress
[03:10] <valorie> and perhaps we can get PIM done before beta 1
[03:10] <valorie> that would be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
[03:11] <sintre> not in time fore super bowl
[03:11] <sintre> :(
[03:11] <sintre> gotta draga cable box out to livining room with  big screen
[03:55] <nauticalnexus> so, is there anyway I can help out here?
[04:01] <sintre> testing out the alpha ands giving feedback , i'm sure would be welcome
[04:02] <sintre> but nobody would want you to do something that could hurt your primary
[04:05] <nauticalnexus> alpha for what?
[04:06] <sintre> next version of ubuntu
[04:06] <nauticalnexus> :o
[04:06] <sintre> and turns uinto kubuntu
[04:06] <nauticalnexus> I did that with 16.04
[04:06] <nauticalnexus> I run KDE Neon though
[04:07] <sintre> valorie could probally take you further in how to help
[04:29] <DarinMiller> But Valorie we have Jonathan's secret decoder map.  It should be a piece of cake (http://weegie.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/PIM.png ) :)
[04:33] <valorie> lol
[04:33] <valorie> DarinMiller: they split it since that was made!
[04:34] <valorie> nauticalnexus: testing the alpha is the most helpful right now
[04:34] <DarinMiller> :)
[04:34] <valorie> follow the QA links in the /topic
[04:35] <valorie> new QA links page nearly ready
[04:35] <valorie> but that one will work, just ignore "smoke tests"
[05:37]  * DarinMiller is attempting to fix plasma-sdk again. sbuilding now...
[05:39] <DarinMiller> Status: successful!
[05:40] <nauticalnexus> :D
[05:42]  * DarinMiller wonders why qml-module-org-kde-kirigami version bump from (>= 1.1.0~) to (>= 1.1.0-1~) fixed the problem.  Seem like (>= 1.1.0~) should be sufficient.
[05:43]  * nauticalnexus wonders what all that means.
[05:46] <DarinMiller> nauticalnexus: I am still learning so I do a lot of thinking out loud.  Hopefully someone will redirect me if I wander off in the weeds....
[05:46] <nauticalnexus> oh no I literally know nothing
[05:46] <nauticalnexus> haha
[05:46] <nauticalnexus> I'm actually here to learn :o
[05:50] <DarinMiller> nauticalnexus: have you used cvs's such as git or svn?
[05:50] <nauticalnexus> I know what a git is :O
[05:51] <DarinMiller> to your are familiar with cloning, checking out, merging and pushing?
[05:51] <DarinMiller> so you are....
[05:51] <nauticalnexus> I know how to clone
[05:51] <nauticalnexus> and I guess merging
[05:51] <nauticalnexus> I used to manage a kernel on the AUR
[05:52] <DarinMiller> You packaged kernels for AUR?
[05:53] <nauticalnexus> a kernel
[05:54] <DarinMiller> I have not packages a kernel, only installed using dpkg -i *.deb. What was involved in packaging the AUR kernel? 
[05:55] <nauticalnexus> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-cik/
[05:55] <nauticalnexus> just modifying a PKGBUILD file, updating checksums
[05:55] <nauticalnexus> pushing the changes to the git url there
[05:55] <nauticalnexus> kernel is useless now, however. The changes have been merged into the official Arch kernel
[05:56] <DarinMiller> cool :)
[05:56] <nauticalnexus> yup
[05:56] <nauticalnexus> because of me
[05:56] <nauticalnexus> I opened up a feature request half a year ago
[05:56] <nauticalnexus> for that to be enabled.
[05:56] <nauticalnexus> it showed a lot of people who wanted it, so they did it
[05:56] <nauticalnexus> I'm probably gonna do the same for Ubuntu
[05:57] <nauticalnexus> I enabled the thing on KDE Neon, with the stock Ubuntu kernel. 60fps maxed out 1080p DiRT Showdown, really nice
[05:57]  * nauticalnexus uses AMD
[05:57] <nauticalnexus> anyhoo
[05:57] <nauticalnexus> I'm apparently good at editing configs so
[05:57] <DarinMiller> very nice.
[05:57] <nauticalnexus> I mean I can definitely manage a git repo
[05:58] <nauticalnexus> I just need a refresher
[06:00] <DarinMiller> I had the misconception when I started "helping" here that since I could dissect a deb file and rip apart and rebuild iso's, packaging can't any harder....
[06:00] <nauticalnexus> :P
[06:01] <nauticalnexus> the most packaging I've done was hexchat 2.12.4
[06:01] <nauticalnexus> I packaged the hell out of that
[06:01] <nauticalnexus> lol
[06:01] <nauticalnexus> "2.12.0 in official repos? NOOOOOOOO. NEED DAT .4"
[06:01] <DarinMiller> I discovered that though it's not difficult, there are many ways to things wrong.  And I am not able to log in when all the smart people are online.  So getting over the learn curves has been slow.
[06:03] <nauticalnexus> well I'm not smart in that area sorry
[06:03] <nauticalnexus> now, if this were a git repo we were talking about... :P
[06:05] <DarinMiller> has anyone pointed you to the ubuntu packaging basic links? i.e. the links that talk about launchpad account setup, gpg keys, registering gpc keys, git config, etc?
[06:11] <DarinMiller> once you have all the the launchpad setup complete and a reasonable understanding of the git process and debian package structure, then you are ready to dive into the kci build failures (yellow belt stuff that I am attempting).
[06:11] <nauticalnexus> I have a launchpad acc
[06:12] <nauticalnexus> I have a gpg key, I don't know what a gpc key is, I think you might've meant gpg?
[06:12] <DarinMiller> its a typo :)
[06:12] <DarinMiller> gpg key
[06:12] <nauticalnexus> it's cool :P
[06:12] <nauticalnexus> I have one :o how do I register
[06:13] <DarinMiller> have you registered your gpg key on lp and signed the lp code of conduct with it?
[06:13] <nauticalnexus> .....no
[06:13] <nauticalnexus> I don't even know how to do any of that :o
[06:13] <DarinMiller> go to you lp page, i.e mine is https://launchpad.net/~darinsmiller
[06:14] <DarinMiller> replace my username with your lp username
[06:14] <nauticalnexus> hmm
[06:14] <nauticalnexus> appears I've done it before but it's an older key
[06:15] <nauticalnexus> it's one I don't have on my machine anymore :o
[06:15] <DarinMiller> yeah, had registered a passcoded gpp key long before I started packaging and by the time I tried to use it, I had forgotten the pass phrase.
[06:16] <DarinMiller> so i had to delete and add a new one.
[06:16] <nauticalnexus> I don't even have the secret key
[06:19] <DarinMiller> nauticalnexus: follow these directions here: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html
[06:20] <DarinMiller> do you have pbuilder or sbuilder setup on your box?  You won't need those until later .... I was just curious if you have used them before...
[06:22]  * DarinMiller suspects the libgpg issue with 5.9 blocking his ability to push his plasma-sdk update to lp....
[06:23] <DarinMiller> might have to switch to my YY box until libgpg is ironed out....
[06:24] <DarinMiller> nauticalnexus: what is your timezone? Are you in the US? 
[06:25] <nauticalnexus> sorry
[06:25] <nauticalnexus> east coast
[06:25] <DarinMiller> Mountain time here...
[06:27] <nauticalnexus> >ubuntu implying I use bash
[06:28] <nauticalnexus> zsh master race
[06:28] <DarinMiller> Assuming I am able to assist, similar timezones should minimize roadblock issues that I encountered when I was trying to setup everything....
[06:30] <DarinMiller> what is your *nix background?  work related?  or crazy PC fanatic who finds adventure in opensouce community?
[06:30]  * DarinMiller is both....
[06:30] <nauticalnexus> no, maybe
[06:31] <nauticalnexus> Jesus I'm tired
[06:32] <DarinMiller> I plan to login tomorrow if you want any help with your setup environment.  Reading some this setup stuff when tired can be quite draining.
[06:34] <nauticalnexus> um
[06:35] <nauticalnexus> I can't sign the code of conduct for some reason
[06:35] <nauticalnexus> well I can but
[06:35] <nauticalnexus> I copy it and paste the signed code and it says no public key
[06:35] <nauticalnexus> but the key is public
[06:36] <nauticalnexus> ugh
[06:36] <nauticalnexus> I had to send it the old fashioned way
[06:36] <nauticalnexus> my gpg key
[06:38] <DarinMiller> and you are using a gpg key that you uploaded to lp and confirmed by following the decrypted email link?
[06:41] <nauticalnexus> yeah
[06:41] <nauticalnexus> I only have one
[06:41] <DarinMiller> only 1 is needed
[06:43] <nauticalnexus> it's so neato seeing my key on a keyserver
[06:44] <nauticalnexus> I uploaded it to other ones too :o
[06:44] <DarinMiller> So if you go to  your lp page and click on the icon next to the OpenPGP keys, your key listed under teh active keys section?
[06:44] <nauticalnexus> yeah
[06:44] <nauticalnexus> I did like everything there too btw :P
[06:45] <DarinMiller> but code of conduct would not accept your key?
[06:45] <nauticalnexus> it did
[06:45] <DarinMiller> oh, cool
[06:45] <nauticalnexus> after I did gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys whateverhtenumberis
[06:45] <nauticalnexus> https://launchpad.net/~absynthesyne
[06:45] <nauticalnexus> there's my lp thingy
[06:45] <nauticalnexus> it's all chill
[06:46] <nauticalnexus> I'm tired as hell though
[06:46] <DarinMiller> very good. Well, I think I am going to call it a night here.
[06:46] <nauticalnexus> yeah, night
[06:46] <DarinMiller> gn.
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[09:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_peruse build #70: FIXED in 8 min 51 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_peruse/70/
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[10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_peruse build #27: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_peruse/27/
[11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_peruse build #59: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_peruse/59/
 @DarinMiller, I've done POCs for this before, I should remake the PIM map :P
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 Morning BluesKaj
[11:47] <BluesKaj> 'Morning tsimonq2
[12:02] <acheronuk> clivejo: please try discover and peruse. you'll need to force downgrade qml-module-org-kde-kirigami to 1.1.0-1 for peruse
[12:03] <clivejo> force downgrade = purge!
[12:04] <acheronuk> not always, but you can do it like that
[12:09] <clivejo> doing an upgrade
[12:09] <clivejo> will take a while :/
[12:10] <acheronuk> clivejo: peruse is looking in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/ for it knsrc file for some reason, instead of the proper /etc/xdg/
[12:11] <acheronuk> I symlinked the 2 to fix, but will need looking into for if/when we ship peruse 
[12:11] <clivejo> doesnt look likely at this point
[12:12] <clivejo> we'll have to wait until tsimonq2 gets his MOTU
[12:12] <clivejo> and Archive Admin
[12:19] <blaze> clivejo: when?
[12:19] <clivejo> I really really want to split calligra translations from calligra-data to calligra-l10n
[12:20] <clivejo> blaze: when what?
[12:21] <acheronuk> clivejo: why? 
[12:21]  * clivejo is confused
[12:21] <acheronuk> why split it?
[12:21] <clivejo> I dunno
[12:22] <clivejo> feels undebian to put it in -data
[12:22] <blaze> clivejo: motu for Simon
[12:23] <acheronuk> it can be split out later if that becomes apparent. but if done now, makes it a royal pain to backtrack if it's not needed
[12:24] <acheronuk> IMO ^^^
[12:25] <acheronuk> blaze: I think he plans to work on it over the next few months
 Yep
 Can't sleep...
[12:29]  * acheronuk heads for lunch
[12:58] <clivejo> well debian packaged kdevelop and the language files are in kdevelop-l10n
[12:59] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:5.0.1-3ubuntu2
[12:59] <clivejo> and the same with krita
[12:59] <clivejo> so just seems like a standard to put the in package-l10n
[13:08] <acheronuk> that seems more reasonable. I thought you meant making a gazillion separate ones still
[13:09] <acheronuk> whichever way we go, you can bet debian will decide the other way :P
 well debian are in freeze, so effort is not on new stuff right now
 could be a while before they focus on new stuff again
[14:31] <clivejo> acheronuk: discover is workong better now
 :D
[14:32] <clivejo> just that crashing on exit
[14:33] <acheronuk> Think that is a Qt issue
[14:34] <clivejo> upsteam know about it?
[14:35] <acheronuk> dunno. been so many different discover crashes here and in Neon in the run up to 5.9, that I lose track!
[14:36] <clivejo> Zesty is saying another program crashed too - ksplashqml
[14:37] <clivejo> part of plasma-workspace
[14:37] <acheronuk> not had that one
[14:37] <acheronuk> KCI?
[14:41] <clivejo> yup
[14:41] <clivejo> popped up after discover crashed
[14:44] <acheronuk> will have to see if anyone gets in on actual zesty release stuff. KCI is all bleeding edge, so could just be that
[14:44]  * ahoneybun raises hand
[14:45] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: which crash?
[14:46] <ahoneybun> I meant the testing wise
[14:46] <ahoneybun> I'm on ZZ
[14:46] <clivejo> ahoneybun: this is KCI on Zesty testing
[14:47] <ahoneybun> ohhh
[14:47] <clivejo> but plasma 5.9 on regular zesty is slowly filtering through
[14:49] <acheronuk> damn. a new k3b will need soundkonverter and audex removing from the archive. no getting around it
[14:50] <acheronuk> the new libs k3b needs replace the KDE4 ones they need, so they have to GO!
[14:51] <blaze> acheronuk: why replace?
[14:52] <acheronuk> blaze: they are now ported to KF5 in 16.12 KDE applications, so will replace the old ones
[14:52] <blaze> I understand
[14:53] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soundkonverter/+bug/1659926
[14:53] <blaze> but can't they be installed both?
[14:53] <acheronuk> no, as the new source replaces the old
[14:54] <blaze> can be worked around
[14:54] <acheronuk> not really
[14:55] <acheronuk> + these 2 apps are pretty or completely dead anyway
[14:57] <blaze> you can check liblastfm as an example, it is packaged both for qt4 and qt5
[14:58] <acheronuk> this is part of KDE applications though
[14:58] <acheronuk> and these 2 apps are going to get removed at some point soon. just a case of when
[14:59] <acheronuk> clivejo: meeting?
[14:59] <clivejo> yup, we waiting on you
[14:59] <blaze> if so, I'm voting for kf5 k3b
[15:00] <acheronuk> blaze: yep, taht is the conclusion I was coming to. It looks to be working nicely in KCI :)
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[15:29] <nauticalnexus> beep
[15:29] <nauticalnexus> I'm only here for a bit
[16:45]  * acheronuk licks BBB
[16:45] <acheronuk> *kicks
[16:45] <acheronuk> lol
[16:45] <BluesKaj> BBB?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> oh big blue box or soime such ?
[16:49] <acheronuk> yes
[16:55]  * blaze has another version of how to expand this abbreviation
[16:57] <blaze> which came up after the acheronuk's typo (be it intended or not)
 stop licking it
 no wonder its stalling
[17:12] <ahoneybun> no one on there now>
[17:12] <ahoneybun> ?
[17:14] <santa_> good afternoon peoples
[17:15] <santa_> acheronuk, clivejo: whenever you have a few minutes I would like to have a mini-meeting
[17:16] <DarinMiller> hi santa_.  You may have just missed clive as he mentioned something about chinese food and returning in a few hours.
[17:17] <santa_> yep I have the phone running low on batt so I couldn't see it. thank you
[17:17] <acheronuk> santa_: was just talking on BBB with clive as per: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-January/011080.html
[17:18] <acheronuk> maybe you haven't yet caught up with the that email yet
[17:19] <acheronuk> santa_: IRC, or via BBB?
[17:19] <santa_> anyway, I will be typing my stuff
[17:19] <santa_> whichever you prefer
[17:20] <acheronuk> I may say just go with IRC then, but let's see what clivejo thinks
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[20:32] <clivejo> hi santa_
[20:32] <clivejo> hows things?
[20:35] <santa_> clivejo: great. so do you have a few minutes for that mini-meeting?
[20:35] <clivejo> I think so
[20:35] <clivejo> whats up?
[20:36] <santa_> acheronuk: are you around?
[20:36]  * acheronuk ghosts in
[20:36] <santa_> ok
[20:36] <valorie> nice to see you, santa_
[20:37] <santa_> thank you valorie
[20:37] <wxl> o/
[20:39] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk: supose you suddenly wake up in a middle of maze. not a normal static 1maze, but one with moving walls. some walls move randomly and others move because of your actions, such as pressing buttons and so
[20:40] <santa_> in that situation it would be nice to have a GPS pointing your position and showing the layout and current status of the maze
[20:40] <acheronuk> sounds like every morning
[20:41] <valorie> lol
[20:41] <valorie> sounds like one of my nightmares
[20:41] <acheronuk> except mine have spikes (metaphorically)
[20:42] <santa_> to be more narrow, I have that feeling when we upload stuff to the ubuntu devel release and we try to get the things out of -proposed
[20:43] <clivejo> santa_: yes, that is a major problem
[20:43] <clivejo> we dont know its going to fail, until it does
[20:43] <santa_> so in order to know better wtf is going on I have built an early version of a GPS for that maze
[20:44] <santa_> clivejo: that's indeed another related problem
[20:44] <clivejo> I wanted to talk to you about setting a testing environment on the elastic hosts server Rick T got for us
[20:44] <santa_> but right now I'm focusing on the "where tf am I?" "how should I move?"
[20:45] <santa_> clivejo: ok, we will talk about that in a few minutes then
[20:45] <valorie> ha
[20:45] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk; so right now I would like to test an early version of something I made yesterday in the night
[20:46] <santa_> it's ka-graph from KA
[20:47] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk: so I need you to get an updated ka clone in a computer with kde, let me know when you are done
[20:47] <acheronuk> done
[20:48] <clivejo> +1
[20:48] <santa_> ok, just type ka-graph -r frameworks
[20:48] <DarinMiller> +2
[20:49] <santa_> that should open okular with a graph does that work for you?
[20:49] <acheronuk> Traceback (most recent call last):                                                                                                                                                    
[20:49] <acheronuk>   File "/home/neo/kubuntu/ka/ka-graph", line 153, in <module>                                                                                                                         
[20:49] <acheronuk>     subprocess.check_call(['tred',tmpfile_raw_graph.name],stdout=tmpfile_final_graph)                                                                                                 
[20:49] <acheronuk>   File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 266, in check_call                                                                                                                    
[20:49] <acheronuk>     retcode = call(*popenargs, **kwargs)                                                                                                                                              
[20:49] <acheronuk>   File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 247, in call                                                                                                                          
[20:49] <acheronuk>     with Popen(*popenargs, **kwargs) as p:                                                                                                                                            
[20:49] <acheronuk>   File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 676, in __init__                                                                                                                      
[20:49] <acheronuk>     restore_signals, start_new_session)                                                                                                                                               
[20:49] <acheronuk>   File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 1282, in _execute_child                                                                                                               
[20:49] <santa_> oh, wait, wait
[20:49] <acheronuk>     raise child_exception_type(errno_num, err_msg)                                                                                                                                    
[20:49] <acheronuk> FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'tred
[20:49] <acheronuk> whoops!
[20:50] <acheronuk> too late :P
[20:50] <santa_> I didn't update the ka-deps package yet
[20:50] <santa_> you need to have installed graphviz, ghostscript and okular packages
[20:50] <clivejo> works on mine
[20:50] <acheronuk> I guess I may be missing something 
[20:50] <clivejo> but I have okular kf5
[20:50] <clivejo> pretty graph :)
[20:51] <santa_> clive even better because I have the old okular so this way we will make sure it works fine on both
[20:51] <santa_> acheronuk: graphviz, ghostscript and okular installed?
[20:52] <acheronuk> I have my plot
[20:53] <DarinMiller> nice
[20:53] <acheronuk> for some reason it reminds me of a jellyfish
[20:54] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk: now try ka-graph -r frameworks -t pm
 Hai wxl
[20:54] <santa_> it's going to take some time to load
[20:54] <clivejo> valorie and co with no ka - http://imgur.com/a/tNw8r
[20:55] <valorie> super!
[20:55] <acheronuk> nice 
[20:56] <santa_> you got the "pm" graph loaded?
[20:56]  * DarinMiller thinks that is quite awesome.
[20:56] <acheronuk> I have
[20:56] <clivejo> that is impressive
[20:56] <DarinMiller> green, orange, blue and red. very nice.
[20:57] <clivejo> so orange is what stuck in proposed
[20:57] <santa_> yes
[20:57] <clivejo> and I can click on it and it brings me to the excuses!
[20:57] <santa_> that's what I was about to say
[20:58] <acheronuk> I'm clicking, and nothing happens
[20:58] <DarinMiller> your balloons are clickable?
[20:58] <DarinMiller> ditto, YY older version of okular...
[20:59] <santa_> I have the old one and it works
[20:59] <DarinMiller> by chance are we missing another package?
[20:59] <santa_> note that greeen nodes have no likns
[20:59] <santa_> * links
[21:00] <santa_> only packages with problems
[21:00] <clivejo> santa_: prison-k5 is showing as green, does it not check the version?
[21:00] <DarinMiller> terminal window says: BusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon ...
[21:00] <santa_> clivejo: not yet, this is a very early version
[21:00] <clivejo> ah ok
[21:01] <santa_> clivejo: also it doesn't take into account packages stuck in new and such
[21:01] <clivejo> is it possible to check that?
[21:02] <santa_> checking that the source package has the correct version in case of "upload accident" would be easy
[21:02] <santa_> about the packages stuck in new I would need to figure out something
[21:02] <clivejo> well prison is new in frameworks and we haven't yet got it added to Kubuntu packageset
[21:03] <clivejo> trying to find an MOTU to upload it
[21:03] <acheronuk> still no working links. clicking does nothing at all
[21:04] <santa_> clivejo: so for that case it would be a matter of just checking the correct version
[21:05] <santa_> we can build up a small list of things to improve/add later
[21:05] <clivejo> is there any way of checking this against the official KDE dep tree?
[21:05] <santa_> acheronuk: hovering the mouse over the node shows the link at least?
[21:05] <clivejo> I take it this graph is current, as in our packaging at this time
[21:05] <acheronuk> santa_: no, it doesn't even show that
[21:05] <santa_> yes
[21:06] <santa_> clivejo: it takes the data from package-metadata
[21:06] <santa_> in case it isn't obvious enough
[21:06] <santa_> an edge a -> b
[21:06] <santa_> means b build depends on any of the binary packages provided by a
[21:11] <acheronuk> santa_: works in masterpdfeditor3
[21:11] <acheronuk> which is odd
[21:11] <santa_> what are you using in the desktop in question? zesty?
[21:12] <acheronuk> yes
[21:12] <santa_> well, let's hope it gets better
[21:13] <santa_> note that we can make the pdf viewer configurable to work around that, as I said this is just the earliest version of this thing
[21:18] <acheronuk> atril from mate desktop also works. odd.
[21:19] <acheronuk> anyway, can sort that later....
[21:21] <clivejo> can that be made into a webpage?
[21:21] <santa_> probably
[21:22] <clivejo> very nice
[21:32] <acheronuk> santa_: deleted my okular config files, and now seems ok :)
[21:32] <DarinMiller> in the .config dir?
[21:33] <santa_> oh, maybe that can be disabled in the ui
[21:34] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: yes, though I deleted ~/.local/share/okular as well
[21:35] <acheronuk> santa_: if it can, I couldn't find the option, which is why I nuked the configs
[21:35] <santa_> aha
[21:38] <DarinMiller> ~/.kde/share/config/ only files I could find were here <-, deleting fixed for me too.
[21:40] <DarinMiller> that rocks!
[21:42]  * DarinMiller likes late x-mas presents.
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[21:46] <santa_> so I presume you had now some time to play around with this new tool, so I would like to move forward to another related topic
[21:46] <santa_> acheronuk: I saw you reverted my last commit to kubuntu-retry-builds which introduced a major bug
[21:47] <santa_> that commit had a bunch of changes
[21:48] <santa_> the most important one was a (failed) attempt to deal with the "binary packages stuck in the new queue" situation
[21:49] <santa_> so I broke up the changes made by the commit you reverted and re-applied all the other changes except the faulty attempt to deal with the packages stuck in the new queue
[21:50] <santa_> so right now we still have the new queue problem but at least the retry-builds script is suposed to work
[21:50] <santa_> that being said,
[21:51] <acheronuk> santa_: sorry, at the time just wanted something that worked
[21:51] <santa_> no problem, you did the right thing do
[21:51] <santa_> I just completed a bit more what you did
[21:52] <santa_> clivejo: I think we need to run it against frameworks (see the graph :P)
[21:52] <santa_> and once we got all the fw built we would be able to use it against plasma
[21:55] <wxl> oh fyi clivejo that stupid konversation for yakkety includes a ton of translations resulting in a half meg debdiff. so it may take some work to get a sponsor, but i'm trying.
[21:56] <valorie> yay!
[21:56] <clivejo> unfornuately the graph doesnt show why some are stuck :(
[21:58] <santa_> yes, only if you click the thing
[21:59] <clivejo> so many stuck in the NEW queue
[21:59] <clivejo> santa_: fancy poke and proding the release team
[21:59] <santa_> but wrt to those in dep-wait and FTBFS'ing you see clearly the blocker
[22:00] <clivejo> yes, I love the visual element to it
[22:00] <clivejo> santa_: BTW did you read we have moved to phab?
[22:00] <santa_> clivejo: I think this "kubuntu-retry-builds -f -r frameworks -d zesty -a" will unblock the few remaining packages not being built
[22:01] <santa_> clivejo: yeah, you mentioned PHAB
[22:01] <santa_> * phap
[22:01] <santa_> * phabricator
[22:01] <santa_> god damn it XD
[22:01] <clivejo> we are attempting to put our docs on there
[22:02] <valorie> imo it's going well
[22:02] <santa_> which docs?
[22:02] <santa_> what we have in community.kde.org?
[22:02] <clivejo> all packaging docs (fingers crossed)
[22:03] <clivejo> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/kubuntu-automation/ka-graph/
[22:03] <santa_> ah, ok
[22:04] <santa_> I see, yes it would be nice to have a complete reference of all the ka commands
[22:05] <santa_> right now we just have the README.source, which is fine of course, but it's also nice to have a manpage-like doc for each command
[22:06] <clivejo> we hacked the gbp-ppa script slighty
[22:06] <clivejo> so that when it warns you that the branch is not correct, you can choose to override it
[22:07] <clivejo> sometimes I was to use gbp-ppa in kubuntu_unstable branch and it was exiting with an error
[22:08] <santa_> ok
[22:12] <clivejo> !info digikam
[22:18] <clivejo> acheronuk: would you add a comment on https://phabricator.kde.org/T5175 about why we can't upload k3b at the moment
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[22:41] <clivejo> santa_: what should the script be retrying?
[22:43] <clivejo> Summary:
[22:43] <clivejo> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[22:43] <clivejo> Rebuild candidates: 
[22:43] <clivejo>  Total: 493
[22:43] <clivejo>  Skipped: 493
[22:43] <clivejo>  Valid: 0
[22:43] <clivejo>  Actually rebuilt: 0
[22:44] <santa_> clivejo: kactivities-kf5
[22:45] <acheronuk> santa_: that is built
[22:45] <acheronuk> we retried those earlier
[22:45] <acheronuk> manually poked
[22:47] <santa_> ah, ok
[22:47] <santa_> I see. so you can proceed with plasma retries apparently
[22:48] <santa_> clivejo: ↑
[22:48] <clivejo> ack
[22:51] <clivejo> wxl: does the time of the weekly meeting not suit you?
[22:52] <wxl> clivejo: it does-- normally
[22:54] <acheronuk> santa_: at the moment, the new kf5 libkf5cddb in apps 16.12.1 would replace the old libkcddb4 that a couple of old pretty unsupported KDE4 applications in the archive need
[22:54] <acheronuk> and we want the new KF5 libs to have a new K3b cd burner for kubuntu
[22:55] <acheronuk> at the moment it seems one way would be to reture thsoe old KDE apps from the archive?
[22:55] <acheronuk> opinions?
[22:55] <acheronuk> *retire
[22:56] <santa_> uploading the old libkcddb with a different source package name would be the thing to do
[22:56]  * valorie votes for retire
[22:57] <valorie> I've tried those over and over for years, and they Did Not Work
[22:57] <acheronuk> for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soundkonverter/+bug/1659926
[22:57] <valorie> perhaps they did for someone, at some point
[22:57] <valorie> but not for me
[22:57] <valorie> I even blogged about it
[22:58] <santa_> or alternatively remove it along with its reverse dependencies as long as the reverse dependencies are completely broken
[22:59] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audex/+bug/1659934
[22:59] <valorie> years ago sitter tried to get things working back when he was the Phonon God
[23:00] <valorie> but ..... broken
[23:02] <acheronuk> well, push comes to shove I would rather have a KF5 version of K3b which we seed and support, than some ropey old KDE4 stiff which we don't cluttering up the archive
[23:04] <valorie> amen to that
[23:04] <acheronuk> renaming the old libkcddb source would be an alternative, but we have enough hassle getting our normal stuff in. and I suspect these 2 apps that need it will not be long with us 
[23:05] <acheronuk> to be blunt, I want a KF5 K3b, as that is part of our supported set. I just want a way to do it
[23:05] <clivejo> here here
[23:06] <valorie> amen, brother! 
[23:06] <acheronuk> binning a couple of KDE4 apps a cycle earielr say than might have  happened seems a fair trade to me
[23:06] <valorie> preaching to the choir I think
[23:06] <valorie> they have been stinky for years
[23:06] <acheronuk> see: https://github.com/dfaust/soundkonverter/issues/23
[23:06] <valorie> put 'em in the compost pile!
[23:07] <valorie> what the hell
[23:07] <acheronuk> that dev has no interest in porting
[23:07] <valorie> github issues!
[23:07] <valorie> that isn't even a KDE app any more
[23:07] <valorie> kill it with fire
[23:07] <acheronuk> lol. indeed
[23:09] <acheronuk> valorie: https://cgit.kde.org/k3b.git/commit/?id=e0da90a0f2d26456b89b17e65d70f1d5b42dff71
[23:10] <acheronuk> so it's coming for us, anyway
[23:11] <acheronuk> the KF5 version is working in KCI
[23:11] <valorie> cool
[23:11] <valorie> good to see the gardening effort worked to get that raised from the dead
[23:29] <clivejo> ahoneybun: have you fixed this yet - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/16.10.0 ?
[23:34] <clivejo> https://phabricator.kde.org/T5117 should that just be a recommends on dolpin?
[23:35] <sintre> i don't connect via my phone to pc
[23:35] <sintre> but if i ever wanted to would like it to be able to :)
[23:35] <sintre> my phone i andoid as well
[23:36] <acheronuk> clivejo: unless discover is broke without it, then a recommends max I would say
[23:37] <clivejo> discover?
[23:37] <acheronuk> dolphin
[23:37]  * acheronuk yawns
[23:38] <valorie> sintre: kdeconnect doesn't work for you?
[23:38] <valorie> !info kdeconnect
[23:38] <sintre> neer tried it
[23:39] <sintre> never
[23:39] <sintre> i think he was talking about direct access to the dolphin file manager
[23:39] <sintre> maybe i mis understood
[23:39] <clivejo> acheronuk: maybe suggests?
[23:39] <clivejo> like the user decide if its installed?
[23:39] <clivejo> let
[23:40]  * sintre adds more stuff to trst next week
[23:41] <valorie> well, there are ssh apps for that
[23:41] <sintre> i think loaded and rdy to go apps , small foot print if you need em kind app
[23:42] <valorie> I don't think there is a dolphin app for android though
[23:42] <sintre> maybe a middle man program of some sorts?
[23:42] <acheronuk> clivejo: not sure. enough people will expect their phone/tablet to just plug in and work, that I think a recommends
[23:42] <valorie> kdeconnect is good for me
[23:43] <sintre> does it work both wifi and blue tooth?
[23:43] <valorie> network
[23:43] <valorie> no bluetooth as yet
[23:43] <sintre> wifi
[23:43] <sintre> ahh
[23:44] <sintre> not sure if my junk phone can handle multiple connections via wifi
[23:44] <sintre> but considering it'll connect to anything it finds i'd like to think it would
[23:48] <clivejo> where did this task come from?
[23:49] <sintre> my cheap 40 dollar phone ?
[23:49] <sintre> j/k
[23:49] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: you?
[23:50] <clivejo> https://trello.com/c/eQUbTZ0P
[23:50] <clivejo> is there a LP bug anywhere
[23:51] <sintre> looked at that , looks nasty
[23:52] <sintre> if i ever wanted to plug phone directly into pc
[23:52] <valorie> oh, that's why I can't directly move stuff anymore via dolphin
[23:52] <valorie> damned mtp
[23:52] <clivejo> valorie: is there LP bugs open for it?
[23:53] <valorie> unsure, I just grumbled
[23:53]  * clivejo rolls eyes
[23:54] <sintre> last updated december 5th
[23:54] <tsimonq2> I'm doing a widespread testing and fixing spree
[23:55] <tsimonq2> Cloning EVERYTHING and making sure we have autopkgtests for everything.
[23:55] <clivejo> I wonde should it be a Recommends on kio ?
[23:55] <tsimonq2> s/autopkgtests/working autopkgtests/
[23:55] <clivejo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kio-mtp/+bug/1233898
[23:56] <valorie> but I'll look
[23:56] <valorie> gosh how I hate searching LP for bug reports
[23:56] <clivejo> it really is confusing
[23:56] <clivejo> I thought it was just me
[23:56] <valorie> bko is a model of clarity in comparison
[23:57] <valorie> and that's saying something
[23:57] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: we have enough autopkgtests, thanks
[23:57] <clivejo> tsimonq2: how about fixing the ones we got
[23:57] <valorie> those kio-mtp bugs are all in 2013 (that I've seen)
[23:57] <clivejo> rather than adding more
[23:57] <tsimonq2> clivejo: That was my plan
[23:57] <tsimonq2> Yep Yep Yep
[23:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_cantor build #179: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_cantor/179/
[23:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_cantor build #82: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_cantor/82/
[23:57] <tsimonq2> Go through and fix whatever then yeah
[23:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_cantor build #291: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_cantor/291/
[23:58] <acheronuk> do that then
[23:58] <acheronuk> the ones we have are pain enough!
[23:58] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Shush shush. Don't look at autopkgtests as a bad thing!
[23:58] <clivejo> ok the kio-mtp seems to be dead
[23:58] <tsimonq2> I'm just gonna go fix 'em all...
[23:59] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtp/+bugs <--- this is more like it
[23:59] <valorie> but not our bugs