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speed_Bashing-om: yeah sorry00:00
speed_RickJames00:00
diablo_hi room00:02
Bashing-omspeed_: And that bad drive is no longer connected ? so now what error do you get when booting the SSD ?00:04
speed_Bashing-om: No I didn't remove the bad SSD> i've got to take the doors off. BRB. Over due for that.00:04
micesis there a cups issue with 16.1?00:11
mices16.1000:11
renforhola00:12
renforcomo les va00:12
Bashing-om!es | renfor00:13
ubotturenfor: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:13
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RicKJamesBashing-om: OK. Removing that SSD correct the issue. Thanks for your help.00:24
RicKJamesIt appears to have been failing slowly over time I guess, at any rate, ubuntu and grub have been doing well.00:25
Bashing-omRicKJames: Great ! .. that drive is likely recoverable with rebuilding the partition tables .00:25
simon2hey! just tried changing my cursor on the root window by executing `xsetroot -cursor_name watch` - nothing happens, any ideas why?00:27
simon2`xsetroot -solid "#000000"` for example, works great00:27
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marin_Hello from guam00:34
marin_I'm having trouble with SSH.00:34
marin_I am trying to connect to a Joyent machine using root@xxx.xxx.xx.x00:34
marin_however I am being prompted for a password that I didn't set up00:35
tubalHello. So... Software Updater. It's icon appears in the launcher, but doesn't respond to a left-click. It has a right-click menu that includes 'Install All Available Updates'. That can't be its default behaviour, is it?00:35
tubal16.10amd6400:35
wedgiemarin_: then what were you expecting it to ask you for?00:35
tubalbtw, I'm quite comfortable with apt-get. I'd just like to know how the GUI approach should work.00:36
tobias_littlejoin /#<ubuntu 16.04>00:36
tobias_littlehey00:36
tobias_littleanybody here00:37
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tobias_littlejust need help00:37
wedgiemarin_: to log in as root you need a few things: sshd has to be configured to allow root login via ssh (many distros ship with that off by default), and you need credentials... a password, or better yet, set up ssh keys00:37
tobias_littlei just update my ubuntu to 16.0400:37
tubalmarin_: And it's usually discouraged, is it not, wedgie?00:38
tobias_littleand i messup with resolution problem00:38
wedgietubal: i would tend to avoid it, but in some cases it is necessary.00:39
tobias_littlei can change it more than 1024 x 76800:39
wedgiemarin_: OR, ssh as a non-root user, and use sudo00:40
marin_okay I will try that wedgie00:47
marin_oh I see the first part of your question00:47
wedgiemarin_: before you go any further, what's your ultimate goal here?00:48
marin_I guess I didn't explain further00:48
marin_<wedgie> I'm attempting to upgrade a Ghost blog installation on a SmartOS machine hosted w/ Joyent00:48
marin_I've generated SSH keys and imported them succesfully, but they don't seem to work00:49
wedgiemarin_: ok, cold be a couple reasons: 1. the sshd on the other side doesn't allow root to log in via ssh. I'm not very familiar with smartos but typically the config is somewhere like /etc/ssh/sshd_config00:50
wedgie2. The pub key wasn't put in the right place or the permissions are wrong. How did you copy the pubkey to the smartos machine?00:51
marin_using the GUI offered by joyent00:52
wedgiemarin_: can you pastebing the output of: ssh -v root@the.ip.address       (sanitize the ip address, if necessary)00:53
marin_http://pastebin.com/HkQRn8Yz00:55
MenzieIsFixingThHey, what's the new package name for the 16.10 LTS kernel stack?00:56
MenzieIsFixingThI forgot what it was00:56
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wedgiemarin_: looks like it's not accepting the key. Make sure you gave it the right public key in the joyent gui. Unfortunately, beyond that it isn't really an ubuntu question. May be best to take it up with joyent support if you continue to have trouble00:58
MenzieFixesThat was poorly worded; I meant the LTS kernel stack "yakkety" for 16.04 LTS :P00:59
marin_ok thank you!01:00
Bashing-om!hwe | MenzieFixes01:01
ubottuMenzieFixes: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack01:01
MenzieFixesThanks Bashing-om01:01
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DwickieIs there anyone available to help me with an SSL certification authentication issue I am having?01:10
qwebirc737Is there anyone on here?01:12
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tgm4883!ask | Dwickie01:19
ubottuDwickie: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:19
tgm4883qwebirc737: ^01:19
L0rdLaravel!patience01:20
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/01:20
Dwickiehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/879628/ssl-certificate-issues-521-524?noredirect=1#comment1369281_87962801:24
DwickieThat has all of the information of my question in an easy to read/understand form.01:25
puchogenzohi guys01:25
tubalSo... Software Updater. It's icon appears in the launcher, but doesn't respond to a left-click. It has a right-click menu that includes 'Install All Available Updates'. That can't be its default behaviour, is it?01:26
tubalbtw, I'm quite comfortable with apt-get. I'd just like to know how the GUI approach should work.01:26
wedgieDwickie: is that the whole file? Have you enabled SSL? Have you created a virtual host listening on port 443?01:27
gambl0rehelo01:29
gambl0re?01:29
wedgieDwickie: the error log seems to be complaining about the format of your cert file01:29
tubal!patience01:29
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/01:29
DwickieOkay, is it the file extension format, or the syntax?01:29
tgm4883Dwickie: the contents of the file possibly?01:29
wedgieDwickie: not really sure. You might be better off in #httpd01:29
DwickieOkay, thanks you for help regardless!01:30
wedgienot likely to be the name of the file, though. The contents01:30
tgm4883Dwickie: It says it's expecting to see "trusted certificate" which makes me think you have a binary file01:30
DwickieHmm... I have a trusted certificates from NameCheap...01:31
tgm4883Dwickie: no, I mean. If you open the file can you read what it says at the top?01:31
DwickieYes, I can read the entire thing.01:31
Dwickiehttp://pastebin.com/mZJwXatr01:32
tgm4883Dwickie: well surely not the entire thing right?01:32
DwickieThat's it of my crt...01:32
DwickieI do have the key file01:32
tgm4883Dwickie: that's what is in your .crt  file?01:32
DwickieYes,01:32
tgm4883Dwickie: that's a log you just posted....01:33
Dwickieoh shoot wrong one...01:33
wedgiehopefully that's not what's in his cert :P01:33
Dwickielmfao01:33
tgm4883wedgie: lol, that would be not so good :)01:33
Dwickiesorry here it is: http://prntscr.com/e48ug901:33
tgm4883Dwickie: that's not your certificate01:33
wedgiethat's a csr01:33
tgm4883Dwickie: that's your certificate request01:34
DwickieOh damn, then I did something wrong...01:34
tgm4883Dwickie: yea, you need to get the .crt from namecheap01:34
wedgieDwickie: that is the file you submit to namecheap to get them to sign your cert. Then they send you back the certificate01:34
tgm4883Dwickie: first line should be "-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----"01:34
DwickieOkay, that would explain it. Thank you I'll be back with an update.01:35
tgm4883Dwickie: Also, your CRT isn't private01:35
wedgieyes, please don't pastebin the key :P01:35
tgm4883yea, pastebinning the key would mean it's time to get a new key01:36
DwickieI never pastebinned it.01:36
DwickieI prntscrned it and blocked out a huge chunk.01:36
DwickieI just copied the wrong link earlier. :P01:36
tgm4883Dwickie: yea, we were just saying that info isn't private info. The .key file however is01:36
wedgieDwickie: doesn't matter because that wasn't your key anyway01:36
DwickieOh, yes. too many certificate file names for me to keep them straight.01:37
DwickieI have never opened my key file.01:37
tgm4883Dwickie: FWIW, your key file should start with "-----BEGIN PRIVATE KEY-----"01:37
Dwickietgm4883 checks out. It began like that.01:38
tgm4883Dwickie: ok, so then just grab the actual crt file and overwrite the wrong one and try restarting apache01:39
DwickieWill do. be back in a few.01:39
enlightenmeplsHi folks. I need some help. I have a special XLR microphone which is connected to a Focusrite Scarlett Solo which is connected to my computer with a serial usb. Unfortuanately, I cannot get the microphone to work. When I rightclick the sound icon on the toolbar and click Sound Settings, nothing happens. Can someone help me out with this?01:40
enlightenmeplsI was reading up on something called pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Are these something I need to install to get the microphone to work?01:40
enlightenmeplsOr can it work right out of the box?01:40
tgm4883enlightenmepls: not sure about that device, but pavucontrol does have better control than the default stuff. For microphones though I don't see it giving you much more control than you have with the standard stuff.01:42
enlightenmeplsIs there a way I can open up the sound settings without using the icon on the tool bar?01:43
enlightenmeplsI cannot even get it open using the icon.01:43
tgm4883enlightenmepls: there's likely a "sound" option in the control center01:43
tubalenlightenmepls: Press the windows key, then type System Settings in the entry field.01:46
enlightenmeplsAlright, many thanks.01:48
enlightenmeplsI got it to work.01:48
DwickieFixed it.01:51
DwickieThank you guys very much. I just seem to have an issue with my html now...01:51
wedgieDwickie: now test it out with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/01:51
causativeis there a way to run System Test for only the tests that don't require user interaction?01:51
DwickieOn the http:// it displays perfectly normal however it https:// the CSS doesn't seem to be working well.01:52
DwickieI also have to enable an auto-redirect to the https.01:52
george_drudge1701:53
causativeor a list of which tests require user interaction?01:54
Dwickiewedgie Thank you. As across the board.01:54
wedgieDwickie: nicely done01:55
DwickieI don't mean to be impatient, but does anyone know why when i go to https:// the CSS on my website seems to be not working well.01:55
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tgm4883Dwickie: you'll probably need to give a little more detail and pastebin your whole site conf file01:59
wedgieDwickie: "Blocked loading mixed active content “http://mclist.co/template/css/custom.css”01:59
daxprobably because you're including it as HTTP and your browse... yup01:59
wedgietrying to pull in stuff using HTTP from an HTTPS page01:59
daxthe URL in your link attribute should either be relative or use HTTPS02:00
daxlink element*02:00
tgm4883yep02:00
DwickieOh okay, so all of the links need to be changed?02:00
Dwickie(just trying to verify what you're saying)02:00
adamgokay why is gnome-keyring-daemon taking 2.3gb of resident memory02:00
wedgieDwickie: as an aside, looking at the web console in your browser is a good way to troubleshoot some of that kind of thing02:01
daxoh nvm i see why02:01
daxDwickie: <base href="http://mclist.co/">02:01
adamg(I am running a bunch of SSHs in a loop, continuously,but I don't remember this happeneing)02:01
daxDwickie: dunno why that's there, but it should be https, not http02:01
adamg16.04,.02:01
dax(it's also rather pointless)02:01
DwickieOkay, I will have to fix all of that. Thank you for all of your help. I will get going on all of that.02:01
DwickieDax: I should remove that base part?02:02
daxit's unnecessary and is what's breaking things, so yes :)02:02
DwickieHaha, sure thing. Thank Dax and others.02:02
daxif you can't remove it for whatever reason, switching the http bit in it to https should work02:02
jacks_hi, i have a toddler who keeps ejecting the dvd drive, i've tried locking it with cdctl -o1 and eject -i on but it still ejects the proc info suggests it can be locked/disabled is there any other way of doing it short of pulling the power02:06
jacks_can i somehow mask that interrupt or something02:07
DwickieJust removing the <base> fixed it, thanks Dax.02:07
gambl0rehow do i improve performacnce with ubuntu running inside virtualbox02:08
jacks_if it helps ioctl returns 002:09
gambl0rewhat?02:09
jacks_gambl0re, install the guest tools02:10
gambl0rei did02:10
tgm4883gambl0re: give more resources to the VM? Give less resources to the VM? You really didn't give us many details to go on here02:11
gambl0rewhat details would you like to know02:12
jacks_have you installed preload, modified vm.swapiness , even got a swap partition02:12
tgm4883(eg. what do you mean by performance? What are you trying to do in the VM that has bad performance? What hardware did you give the VM? What hardware does your host have? What does the CPU/RAM usage look like on the HOST/VM?)02:12
waltmanAnyone know if there's been a problem with ubuntu forums? I posted this 2 days ago and it seems odd that it's only had 1 view. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235118102:19
waltmanOf course I'm also still very interested in the questions I asked there. :)02:20
chilifingerI'm having an issue with file permissions reverting back from what i manually set them to, i tried using auditd to see what was causing the change and its only showing the changes i make manually and not showing where the new change is coming from. Any ideas?02:22
zykotick9chilifinger: is this file permissions on a regular file?  on ext4 filesystem?02:24
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chilifingeryes, regular file on ext4.02:24
chilifingerfolder with video files, ran chmod -R 777 /dir after a few minutes files start reverting back to their previous permissions.02:25
wedgiechilifinger: maybe put together something with inotify to see what is messing with the files02:27
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tatertotschilifinger: does the symptom occur with files in "other" folders?02:36
Npcoany good iso builders?02:36
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chilifingertatertots: it happens only in the folder containing my videos. if i run chmod -r 777 on my video folder all the permissions for each folder inside and videos get changed to 0777, after a few minutes certain files revert back02:38
tatertotschilifinger: is it consistently the same files changing?02:40
tekeli-litatertots, may i eat you?02:42
chilifingertatertots: yes02:42
* tekeli-li salivates02:43
tatertotschilifinger: what do those files have in common?02:45
chilifingerthey're all video, thats about it.02:46
tatertotschilifinger: oh really?02:46
wedgiechilifinger: have any sort of software that you use to manage it your videos? Maybe it's doing something02:46
obsessive_RPertatertots02:47
obsessive_RPerare pretty good02:47
chilifingerive already disabled about everything thats running on the system.02:47
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velushello all i hope someone is awake, i have installed ubuntu on my spare hdd, so i can swap drives when i need to, but when i try to load ubuntu it gets past the first screen (generally a blank purple screen) then get to the blinking curser but stick on that, i have even had that on that for over an hour but dosent move02:47
obsessive_RPerbut did you know the brown stuff on potatos is poison02:47
veluscan i get some help with this please?02:47
tatertotschilifinger: are you sure you are looking with a detailed enough lens?....video on a pc can be .avi .mp4 .mpg .m2ts02:47
tatertotschilifinger: are you insinuating they are all of the exact same file type AND extension??02:48
chilifingerall are mkv, not sure why that would make a difference02:48
tatertotschilifinger: are there mkv files that are "not" effected by this symptom?02:49
chilifingeryeah, there are. its only the more recent files that are causing the problems.02:50
tgm4883chilifinger: sharing this with any other PCs over the network? Are these sitting on other network attached storage? What permissions are the files changing to?02:50
CarlFKvelus: reboot, hold the shift key down.  this should bring up the grub menu02:50
causativethe brown stuff on potatos?  you mean the peel?02:50
tatertotshi obsessive_RPer02:50
velustried that and gone in to recover mode same thing02:51
CarlFKvelus: doe you see "loading kernel..."  ?02:51
velusno just a blinking curser02:51
tatertotschilifinger: is it possible the files are in use (by another application) while you are observing permissions change?02:52
chilifingertgm4883: files are downloaded from another server of mine with seperate file permissions, when i change them on my end they revert to the permissions from when i pulled the file02:52
tgm4883chilifinger: any errors in syslog when you change the file permission?02:53
wedgiechilifinger: do you have an rsync job or something that pulls them?02:53
chilifingeri do, but its disabled02:53
chilifingerand the videos aren't in the directory that is monitored02:54
tgm4883chilifinger: do the permissions still change if you 'chattr +i filename'02:55
CarlFKvelus: grub menu, find recovery, hit e for edit, find the word nomodtest, add "nosplash" after it02:58
velusok then i am guessing a restart02:58
chilifingertgm4883, syslog isnt showing any problems02:58
causativewhy is it that Checkbox (system testing) is asking me for a password, but not using the standard permissions popup?  should I be concerned?03:01
causativealso I tried entering an incorrect password and it proceeded... although perhaps it would have failed some test later due to that03:02
causativeI'm concerned that the program might be storing my pw, because it's not using the standard popup03:03
chilifingertgm4883, give me a few moments to verify. it usually changes within a couple of minutes03:04
RNevilleHello, just installed a Nvidia Gefore GTX 760 graphics card; total newbie to graphic cards, running Ubuntu 16.04; how should I installed driver for this card?03:04
colchaHello guys, I can't install the build essential package!03:04
RNevilleplease03:05
tgm4883RNeville: use the built in driver manager03:05
tgm4883!details | colcha03:05
ubottucolcha: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.03:05
RNevilletgm4883, not sure what "Driver Manager" is and where to look for it under Ubuntu 16.0403:05
colchaAPT doesn't let me install the package build-essential, it drops the following: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.03:06
tgm4883RNeville: search for 'driver' in the dash, I think it will pop up as a result03:06
tgm4883RNeville: I run mate now, so IDK what it's called03:06
colchaI've already tried apt-get clean, and dpkg --configure -a. It does not solve the issue.03:06
kang0Anyone comes from Windows?03:06
Bashing-omRNeville: Also ^ What was the old card ? Consider purging the old driver prior to installing a new driver .03:06
colcha luckily, the aptitude shows a litlle more info. It says: libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (=2.23-0ubuntu3) but is installed 2.23-0ubuntu503:06
RNevilleWas running integrated on board AMD graphics - first video card, ever, for me03:07
tgm4883colcha: what version of ubuntu?03:07
colchatgm4883: 16.04 Xenial03:07
tgm4883colcha: did you try 'apt update' ?03:08
colchayes, I've tried apt-get update, apt-get install -f, dpkg --configure -a, and so on...03:08
JC_Yanghi, all, I've got a usb touchscreen and the built-in driver works with it, but the calibration done with xinput_calibrator is not correct, where I touch invoke something elsewhere. How to get the calibration done correctly?03:08
tgm4883colcha: can you pastebin the output of  'apt policy libc6-dev'03:09
chilifingertgm4883: setting the file to immutable keeps it from chaning permission.03:09
colchaapt-cache policy tells me something interesting:  (line 1) *** 2.23-0ubuntu5 10003:09
colcha        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status     (line 2) 2.23-0ubuntu3 50003:09
colcha        500 http://ubuntu.mirrors.pair.com/archive xenial/main amd64 Packages03:09
colchatgm4883: sorry, thats the apt-cache policy from libc6.03:10
tgm4883colcha: you either don't have the updates repo enabled anymore, or your mirror is broken03:10
colchatgm4883: mmm... how do I solve that? when I do apt update, it looks fine to me. Does not give me a warning or something03:12
Bashing-om!info libc6 xenial03:12
ubottulibc6 (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.23-0ubuntu5 (xenial), package size 2214 kB, installed size 9581 kB03:12
colchatgm4883: apt policy libc6-dev drops the following: 2.23-0ubuntu3 50003:13
colcha        500 http://ubuntu.mirrors.pair.com/archive xenial/main amd64 Packages03:13
RNevilleBashing-om , Should I used X.org driver or Nvidia binary driver, and if so,  which one: "one marked tested"?03:14
tgm4883colcha: can you pastebin the output of 'apt update'03:14
tgm4883!pastebin | colcha03:14
ubottucolcha: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:14
velusdone that CarlFK nothing but i went in to commandline in grub and put in intrid and i got alloc magic broken at then a hex location but i dont rember the exact location?03:16
RNevilleBashing-om, Of course, I do want to get the best performance out of this new video card03:16
Bashing-omRNeville: I run with the X.org driver just fine . Try it and see  how it performs for your use case ( not gaming !) .03:16
RNevilleI'm want to run Lightworks, NLE03:16
RNevilleNot a gamer, at all03:17
colchatgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23922642/03:17
colchatgm4883: the rest its ok... did not paste it, because its in another language...03:18
Bashing-omRNeville: The open source driver does so well for me I gave not even considered to install the proprietary driver .03:18
RNevilleI think I'm already running the X.org driver, I installed this card, and Ubuntu came up and running using this new video cards HDMI interface03:18
Bashing-omRNeville: ' sudo lshw -C display ' . see what the driver is in the configuration line .03:19
tgm4883colcha: yea you're mirror is out of date03:20
tgm4883colcha: you'll need to switch to another mirror or wait for them to sync03:20
RNevilleBashing-om, just launced Lightworks and got this message http://pastebin.com/veaGsBMS03:20
tgm4883colcha: but considering that package version came out in Nov-2016, I would say it's better if you switch03:21
tgm4883colcha: so you'll need to open software sources and select a different mirror to use03:21
Bashing-omRNeville: Well looks like proprietary may be the way to go for you .. but wont hurt to see what the performance is like with nouveau .03:22
RNevillek, Bashing-om03:22
hiexpobetter if you posted the whole terminal might get you fixed faster03:22
hiexpo@ RNeville03:23
colchatgm4883: but how do I know if the new repo its synced or not?03:23
colchatgm4883: the new mirror I mean...03:24
tgm4883colcha: test it? Or look in the repo first and see if it's there03:24
hiexpoRNeville, propri drivers are sometimes better03:24
RNevillethx hiexpo03:25
hiexpoRNeville, I use them always03:25
RNevillewhat is "@ RNeville" please , hiexpo03:26
hiexpoRNeville, just meant read up03:26
RNevilleok, hiexpo03:26
Bashing-omRNeville: when ya get to the point to try the proprietary driver, eun : ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' as the terminal way .03:26
RNevilleok, Bashing-om03:27
Bashing-omrun/eun*03:27
colchatgm4883: ok, I'll try, thanks for the help bro!03:27
RNevillewill, these last commands install proprietary drivers, Bashing-om03:28
RNevilleif I want to paste from command directly to pastebin , what is command please ?03:29
Bashing-omRNeville: Yeah .. the system will install what it thinks best . no sweat . I bet the choice is 367 version .03:29
RNevillecommand line /command*03:30
Bashing-omRNeville: The paste command pastebinit < command_string .03:30
RNevillethx, Bashing-om03:31
RNevilleBashing-om , when I run  sudo lshw -C display this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23922713/03:32
Bashing-omRNeville: Yepper; running the open source driver " driver=nouveau " .03:34
RNevillethx, Bashing-om03:34
Bashing-omRNeville: How does Lightworks perform with nouveau as the driver ?03:35
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Guest20248just trying to figure this out03:36
RNevilleHaven't tried it Bashing-om , but will here shortly (before I move to proprietary Nvidia driver)03:37
Bashing-omRNeville: K :)03:37
RNevilleBashing-om, I launced Lightworks, and it seems to run - but don't have my media files online, as yet, so I might not be able to try it out tonight03:41
RNevilleHowever, will wait to switch to Nvdia proprietary drivers so I can determine quality of native linux driver, with Lightworks03:42
Bashing-omRNeville: That s the way to do it . test and see , many times in many applications you find that open source does the better ,03:46
RNevillethanks for this advice Bashing-om03:46
RNevilleLightwork does seem much more responsive , now that I have a video card installed03:47
RNevilleAgain, lightworks does launch and controls seems to work fine - again, just no media to properly check out Lightworks completely03:48
Bashing-omRNeville: Happy2help .03:49
flatstuffthe lightworks site recommends that you install propreitery card drivers before installing lightworks03:49
Ven0mThis sucks03:56
jayscandiyes03:56
Ven0mIs there a way to get rid of molded brains inside your head?03:57
sachinHey Guys ! I am gonna buy a laptop today(core i3 processor) . What model would you guys suggest?03:57
Ven0mI have multiple brains molded in my head. they used me to flee since they were fugitives03:58
Ven0mnow they just cause problems all day long03:58
Ven0mI wish i was crazy and this was just part of my illness, but unfortunately its REAL and i have no clue what to do03:59
ParaplegicRacehosachin, I have been happy with my Lenovo's but it all depends on what your use-case is03:59
Ven0mMRI won't detect them04:00
Ven0mI'm running out of options04:00
ParaplegicRacehoTechnical drivers question. Anybody around to answer?04:00
ParaplegicRacehoMy render box is using my integrated graphics for display and four AMD GPUs for math coprocessing. I want to add more GPUs. Can I use my USB 3 ports via USB pcie x16 powered risers?04:03
fishcookerwe have full disk usage issue how to purge the package safely using apt or even dpkg http://vpaste.net/bzKoi because when do apt-get install -f or even $ apt-get autoremove it complain about the full disk http://vpaste.net/IdV9V04:13
Bashing-omfishcooker: show ' df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in pastebins .04:15
fishcookersorry it takes time Bashing-om i don't have pastebinits installed http://vpaste.net/dNjVl04:28
Bashing-omfishcooker: Out of inodes " 989296 957223  32073   97% / " lets see what dpkg can do with removing old kernels . Going to go smoke on it . back soonest .04:32
fishcookeri think dpkg --remove should be fine for the old kernel04:34
fishcookerthis is because we do kernel upgrade automatically without remove the old one04:35
wom12Hey, is anyone good with Virtualbox or VMWare?04:37
wom12Assuming anyone is on XD04:37
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Bashing-omfishcooker: Let take a poke at it ' sudo dpkg -P linux-{headers,image}-3.13.0-{95,96}-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-{95,96} ' . See how this flys  then see what we can do else .04:43
wom12Hello, is anyoen familiar with VMWare or Virtualbox?04:43
wom12Idk if this is the right place but it seems like the only place and ive been working on this issue for a week04:43
wom12guess nothing?04:44
Bashing-omwom12: many here are - not me. ask your question .04:45
wom12My host is Windows 10. I have an Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop VM and a Windows 10 VM. My goal is to let Windows 10 VM connect to the Ubuntu VM and share internet connections04:46
wom12So Windows 10 VM would have to pass through Ubuntu VM. They are both on the same internal network while the Ubuntu VM is also bridged04:46
wom12Im trying every combination on making them see each other from setting manual IP's to DHCP04:46
wom12Nothing works04:46
wom12Any idea?04:47
BaronesHi community, I'm having a issue that didn't find any solution, suddenly my asus laptop battery span greatly decreased04:51
BaronesI have no clue why04:51
Baronesbefore I reinstall a new OS, I would like to try to fix it and learn through it04:51
tatertotsBarones: are you using the least power consumption gpu if you have multiple gpu's?04:53
Baronestatertots, yes, I'm using Prime to switch between gpu's04:57
Baronestatertots, and now I'm using the nvidia gpu04:57
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FreederI'd like to set up a virtual interface to pull an ipv6 address from my ISP... can anyone assist me in starting out?05:09
nomica 'virtual interface'  consists of what05:10
nomica program?05:10
Freedereth0:005:10
Freedernetwork interface05:11
nomicisn tthere a #networking05:11
nomicor ask on forum  = ubuntu forum .. is efficient to leave a forum message05:11
jmynk2536can users see other users browsing history?05:12
tripelb Hi, I want to mirror and control my phone through my laptop. Screen, keyboard, touchpad. Android marshmallow. Ub 14.04 ATM.05:15
jmynk2536use android side sync05:15
tripelb#android-dev were unhelpful,dismissive,mocking folks.05:16
jmynk2536its free and avalible for linux05:16
tripelbjmynk2536: android side sync. What does it run in? Phone or Ubuntu?05:17
tripelbNomic ask in #freenode05:17
tripelbjmynk2536 nope05:18
delinquentmeWhy would a PID change?06:11
delinquentmeis the common ... ?06:11
teegeeHey, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here: # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 57153 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.2106:36
teegeeiptables: No chain/target/match by that name.06:36
teegeeiptables -t nat -L PREROUTING works, so it must be the match06:37
nomicx..x.06:37
phoen1xinteresting'06:42
phoen1xthis is kind a chatting room ?06:42
gowhari#cocoa-init07:16
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Le_Thuggfvtyfcvbuyihy07:34
Le_Thug*07:34
lotuspsychjeLe_Thug: can we help you?07:34
JC_Yanganybody experienced with xinput_calibrator?  it simply can not calibrate my touchscreen correctly07:36
JC_Yangand from the man page, I can't find useful hints to tackle my problem07:37
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oleshello, why lib64ncurses5-dev beeing a 64 bit package depends on i386 binaries?07:40
oleslib64ncurses5-dev:i386          - developer's libraries for ncurses (64-bit)07:40
lotuspsychjeJC_Yang: can this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen07:42
wesaliushi guys, I am trying to perform a fresh install of ubuntu. Right now I am in a live cd, I see both my 30 Gb SSD and 500 Gb HD. When I try to run the installation, none of those are available07:46
wesaliusany advices on how to make the HD "visible" to the installer?07:46
oleswesalius, are they unmounted at the installation moment?07:48
JC_Yanglotuspsychje: I've done calibration with xinput_calibrator, but the result are not correct, where ever I touched reach some where else07:48
wesaliusoles: yes, I unmounted them.07:49
wesaliusI checked now07:49
wesaliusfdisk sees them too07:49
oleswesalius, so you see empty window in the installer's partitions suggestion menu?07:52
wesaliusyes07:52
wesaliusI just went ahead and formatted the disk to see if that helps07:52
FManhi07:52
Tahr-Poopwesalius, pastebin the output of : sudo parted -l07:52
Tahr-Poopwesalius, ensure that AHCI mode is enabled in BIOS07:54
wesaliusTahr-Poop: http://pastebin.com/bZMGea3j07:54
wesaliusthe installer looks like this07:56
wesaliushttps://snag.gy/bzLaGE.jpg07:56
Tahr-Poopwesalius, what happens when you click on click on plus button07:58
wesaliusbefore it exited with error, now when I tried, it just fails (dissapears without anything)07:59
wesaliusand now the SSD i tried to format dissapeared for good08:01
wesalius sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda08:01
wesaliusFound invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory.08:02
wesaliusI might want to fix that GPT right?08:02
Tahr-Poopwesalius, convert to GPT only if your computer supports (U)EFI mode08:03
wesaliusTahr-Poop: ha, I wrote a new partition table using gparted to the disk, now it appeared08:04
wesaliuslets see if the installation goes through08:05
Tahr-Poopwesalius, do same thing with /dev/sdb08:06
wesaliusTahr-Poop: no, /dev/sdb contains my data and is readable ok08:06
wesaliusfrom the file manager08:06
wesaliusI can browse np08:06
Tahr-Poopok08:06
wesaliusseems its solved08:07
wesalius:-)08:07
wesaliusinstallation is proceeding08:07
wesaliusI havent used ubuntu in like 6+ years. Have been running Arch, I am curious how far did you guys get :-)08:08
wesaliusTahr-Poop: anyway, thanks for responding :-)08:08
glachehi08:09
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willemb_after an aptitude upgrade, my nvidia drivers seem to be stuffed.08:29
willemb_geforce 610 on ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS0108:30
willemb_xorg.0.log says 00~Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)01~08:30
willemb_i tried the 304 and the 378 drivers08:31
bharathow to install ubuntu alongisde win10?08:31
willemb_aha! just found that bumblebee is blacklisting my drivers08:32
cfhowlett!dualboot | bharat08:32
ubottubharat: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot08:32
bharatits not working08:32
bharatin boot menu its not decting my current os08:32
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bharathello08:34
Tahr-Poopbharat, boot menu of linux or windows?08:34
bharatwindows08:34
willemb_!nvidia |bharat08:35
ubottubharat: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing »08:35
bharat<Tahr-Poop> i'm using win1008:35
bharatwhich version will run in my lap? imusing lenovo B59008:37
Tahr-Poopbharat, boot into live ubuntu and pastebin the output: sudo parted -l08:40
bharat<Tahr-Poop> yes i did08:41
Tahr-Poopbharat, where is the pastebin URL/link?08:42
kang0Recovery image don't have boot information?08:42
bharatwhich version will run in my lap? imusing lenovo B59008:42
kang0What is boot info?08:42
cfhowlettbharat, stop08:42
bharatwait 1 mins i will send08:42
bharat<cfhowlett>what?08:43
glacheHow can I change the 'quick flash of the default login screen' that I see right before my new login screen shows?  It kind of flashed the old one for a second.08:44
cfhowlettbharat, Tahr-Poop has asked you more than once for information.  you did not answer his question, you repeated your question.  ignoring questions from people trying to help is not right.08:45
glache)*;08:46
bharat<cfhowlett>i don't know how to boot into live ubuntu and pastebin the output: sudo parted -108:48
cfhowlettbharat, do you have an ubuntu USB?08:48
bharat<cfhowlett> nope i have ubuntu CD08:49
cfhowlettbharat, OK, boot from the CD08:49
bharat<cfhowlett> i did08:51
cfhowlettbharat, open a terminal08:51
bharathow?08:51
bharatits asking try ubuntu or install ubuntu08:52
cfhowlettTRY ubuntu08:52
bharati clcked on install ubuntu08:52
Tahr-Poopbharat, press ctrl+alt+t08:52
cfhowlett<escape> key08:52
bharatok <tahr - Poop>08:52
spancahello everyone, is there a command to bulk edit pdf metadata? I tried exiftool but it doesnt work on pdfs08:54
johnny_|_Hi. I am using ubuntu 17.04 live persistent usb. I accidentaly deleted my sources.list. Now I am not sure which is the correct location that holds original file. is it  /rofs/etc/apt/sources.list or /rofs/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list? (the latter one also has deb-src entries).08:55
bharat<cfhowlett> are we connected?08:55
cfhowlettjohnny_|_, ask #ubuntu+108:55
cfhowlettbharat, I see you08:55
Tahr-Poopspanca, try pdfinfo/pdftk/PDFMtEd08:55
spancacd ..08:55
spancahaha08:55
bharatin terminal what i have to type?08:56
cfhowlettbharat, sudo parted -l | pastebinit08:56
bharatok08:56
bharatwait 1 min08:56
spancaTahr-Poop, I found pdftk, too, but couldnt make it work08:56
spancaor, rather, the right command to make it work08:57
Tahr-Poopspanca, pdftk foo.pdf dump_data output metadata.txt08:59
spancaoh thank you, Tahr-Poop!08:59
Tahr-Poopspanca, after editing metadata.txt run > pdftk foo.pdf update_info metadata.txt output foo_updated.pdf09:00
spancaTahr-Poop, thank you very much!09:00
donavan01I just downloaded ubuntu mate and im trying to get the wifi working and unfortunately I dont have access to the internet to get apt-get to work but I found a tar.gz file with the drivers from broadcom but there are no instructions that I find all that is in the file is a lib and scr folder and a makefile any suggestion my linux skills are pretty basic09:01
spancaTahr-Poop, I presume I can replace the filename with * in order to batch edit?09:01
cfhowlettdonavan01, please read      /msg ubottu broadcom09:02
boboliudonavan01, why not just try "./configure&&make&&make install"09:03
Tahr-Poopspanca, aye09:03
donavan01than09:03
donavan01sorry that should have been thanks\09:05
donavan01boboliu ... can you expound on that a little09:07
lanceyt09:08
alan__tets09:13
boboliudonacan01, it's common way to install asource code pack. in usual,developer have prepared everything in a script. you just need run "./configure". make will complie and make install will install them to true directory.09:14
OerHeks!build09:14
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)09:14
WechKepsitting on the toilet09:14
WechKepmy ass is a blast09:15
WechKepfire smelling diarrhea09:15
WechKepout of my ass09:15
cfhowlettWechKep, stop it09:15
WechKepno fucking paper09:15
cfhowlett!ops | WechKep09:15
ubottuWechKep: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu09:15
WechKephey baby lick my ass till your face turns blue!09:15
WechKepYou're finished rimmin' me and you want some more09:16
WechKepYa say ya don't flush but your out the door09:16
WechKepI'm back in the...with a cup09:16
WechKepScoop it outta the toilet 'cause you wanna slurp it up09:16
alan__how to gila?09:16
spancaTahr-Poop, but exiftool and calibre still show the old metadata on foo_updated.pdf09:22
spancaeven thought metadata.txt is the newer version09:22
spancathough*09:22
donavan01Thanks for the help I have some more reading to do but thanks for getting me headed in the right direction09:24
Tahr-Poopspanca, https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?s=8a272a6f06fc69569e58e52711ca1925&p=432875&postcount=509:28
spancaTahr-Poop, does it mean that the new metadata will be shown after it is saved again?09:34
SnardbafulatorJust...09:35
SnardbafulatorJust ate a burger at the sleazy joint09:35
SnardbafulatorNow I gotta take a shit, get to the point09:35
SnardbafulatorSittin' on the toilet, my ass is a blast09:35
SnardbafulatorRunnin' smelly diarrhea outta my ass09:35
spancaI dont get this. after all the progress in editing file, data etc. metadata is still like a holy grail09:35
spancawrestling with the heck for over half an hour09:36
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spancaI am getting this error when cloning git: '/info/refs not valid: is this a git repository?' can you please tell me what the error is here?09:42
rokonhello room09:42
OerHeksspanca, maybe that repository is created in the Mercurial DVCS format instead of Git09:44
spancaOerHeks, I cant see it on the package's page. but when I try install via download, and run the .sh install command, I get this; https://paste.ubuntu.com/23924233/09:46
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OerHeksspanca, so that script checks but does not create /usr/local/share/applications09:48
OerHekscontact the writer?09:48
rokoncan any one help , ubuntu running on mac host , running opererp-server localhost but i want it from ip , that i can see from ssh mac host09:48
spancaso how can I edit pdf metadata?09:49
spancapdftk doesnt change nothing09:50
rokonspanca is that for me09:50
spancarokon?09:50
rokonyes09:50
spancano, it is not09:51
rokon:(09:51
rokoni am new ubuntu user09:51
spancawelcome :)09:51
SpeirosHi folks.09:52
rokonwhere i can get help09:52
SpeirosWhat kind of help rokon?09:53
cfhowlettrokon, here.  be patient09:53
rokon:D09:53
rokoncan any one help , ubuntu running on mac host , running opererp-server localhost but i want it from ip , that i can see from ssh mac host09:53
cfhowlettrokon, please read       /msg ubottu patient09:53
cfhowlettrokon, please read       /msg ubottu patience09:53
spancain year 2017, there is a deep, well-kept secret in file management. that is called pdf metadata edit. it is sacred knowledge, which requires initiation. nowhere to be found on the net. same holds for other file formats except for images.09:54
Tahr-Poopspanca, have you tried calibre yet?09:54
rokon /msg ubottu patience09:54
cfhowlettrokon, remove the spaces before /msg09:55
Tahr-Poopspanca, read 4th comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/78369609:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 783696 in calibre "Calibre doesn't actually include metadata in *.pdf's" [Undecided,Invalid]09:55
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spancaTahr-Poop, yes, calibre does seem to convert pdf metadata, thank you!10:03
royal_screwup21I'm trying to install pandas, which is a python module, using pip, but to no avail. This is error showing up on the terminal: https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPprqLXV6uY Can someone give me a pointer as to how I should go about resolving this error?10:03
spancaI mean edit pdf metadata10:05
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ashish192.168.1.1010:09
Tahr-Pooproyal_screwup21, fix permission of /home/linux/.cache/pip either by file manager or CLI chown command10:10
Speirosspanca I haven't found anywhere yet, but adobe acrobat might be the go.  It's not a free format, the PDF format.10:11
SpeirosSorry, not OS.10:12
rokonok i making it simple , on virtualbox running ubuntu ,i have to network , i want to change localhost ip10:14
rigo_hi. it's 16.04.01 lts x64 up to date. on a laptop, the lid is closed and i use the display port. the signal goes through a receiver and from there to a tv. the thing is if i turn off the tv, the laptop turns off or hibernates. which i don't want to.. but don't want to disable the hibernate function completely10:18
ppfin a shell script, how do i best log the entire stdout/stderr to a file (without eating it up)10:20
jatt >file 2>&110:22
ppfjatt: i'm in the shell script already10:23
ppfplus, that also consumes the output (i.e., no terminal output)10:23
ppfi'd like tee-like behaviour instead10:23
ppfto clarify the "in the script" part: consider a running shell script, that's redirecting it's _own_ output10:24
spancahello again :) exiftool shows the creator and producer of pdf file different from calibre does. the former's entries are 'writer' and 'LibreOffice 5.1.' respectively, whereas the latter just shows 'unknown'.10:26
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spancasame for other file formats such as odt10:28
slaxhow to change ubuntu theme ?10:30
rigo_hi. it's 16.04.01 lts x64 up to date. on a laptop, the lid is closed and i use the display port. the signal goes through a receiver and from there to a tv. the thing is if i turn off the tv, the laptop turns off or hibernates. which i don't want to.. but don't want to disable the hibernate function completely10:31
spancaand not sure if calibre changes metadata. when I export the files from calibre to desktop folders, the metadata is shown the same as before in exiftool.10:32
saifulhi10:35
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Speirosspanca workshare.com offers a trial, using their features to remove metadata from PDF, although I've not used it.  Being a trial, it would be limited to how many times you can use it I guess.10:38
Speirosspanca Still, Adobe Acrobat is the correct program it seems.10:38
bharathi there10:40
bharathow to install ubuntu 12.04tls along side with win1010:40
Speirosbharat you could use a virtual machine.10:41
MonkeyDust!dualboot | bharat start here10:41
ubottubharat start here: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot10:41
bharat<MonkeyDust> how to install dualboot?10:41
MonkeyDustbharat  open this link ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?action=show&redirect=DualBoot%2FWindows10:42
bharati tried but its not working10:42
MonkeyDustbharat  what's not working? what do you mean by 'not working'?10:43
bharatmonkeydust its not showing install along side with windows10:44
bharat<MonkeyDust>can you help me to install ubuntu?10:45
MonkeyDustbharat  start from the beginning, what have you tried, what goes wrong etc10:45
bharatbooted from CD10:47
bharatand clicked on install ubuntu10:47
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bharat<MonkeyDust> its showing installation type10:49
bharat<MonkeyDust> are we connected?10:50
MonkeyDust!details | bharat10:51
ubottubharat: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.10:51
bharat<MonkeyDust> its asking for installation type10:53
bharati clicked on something else10:53
bharat<MonkeyDust> what details you want?10:54
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bharat<MonkeyDust> are we connected?10:56
ledenibharat, on first place why ubuntu 12.04 will be quick end of life10:56
bharat<ledeni> i'musing Lenovo B590 for this lap ubuntu 14.04 will support?10:57
bharatanyone help10:59
bharatanyone help me10:59
Tahr-Poop!EOL | bharat11:01
ubottubharat: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:01
Speirosbharat If you have the installation options, it means that you are starting the installation.  If  you choose to install to a hard drive, it will give you the option to choose the hard-drive.  If you do this, you won't be able to have both running at the same time though.  Also, you need to be sure you are not damaging your already-installed system.11:01
bharat<Tahr - Poop> how to create disk partation?11:02
bharat<Tahr-Poop> are weconnected?11:05
Speirosbharat What are you looking to do?  Are you wanting to have a choice of which OS you open, or are you wanting to run both at the same time?11:05
bharatyes11:05
bharat<Speiros> dual boot11:06
Speirosbharat So one OS at a time?11:06
bharat<Speiros> Yes11:07
Speirosbharat Ok.11:07
bharat<Speiros> ubuntu is not decting my current OS11:08
Speirosbharat You won't be able to edit your disk partition type, as Windows 10 is already installed, unless you have a secondary drive.  If there are other options, can somebody else interject?  I believe this is correct though.11:09
bharat<Speiros> Yes i have secondary drive11:10
Speirosbharat Ah, excellent.11:10
Speirosbharat Are you prepared to format it?11:10
eronishi11:11
bharat<Speirous> yes11:11
eronisI'm a bit confused about ubuntu release support11:11
ikoniain what way confused ?11:12
eroniscould you tell me why some packages have 3 years of support, some of them has 5 etc.11:12
eronisFor example Xubuntu has 3 years of support11:12
ikoniaxubuntu is a meta package11:12
Speirosbharat Ok.  So far, you have opened up your installation, and have seen the options to choose from, as far as a disk install, or to just use it from the disk, is this correct?11:12
eronisis it an obligation to use 3 years or can I use 5 years ?11:12
eronisWhat is meta ?11:12
ikoniaeronis: the bottom line is an LTS release has 5 years of support,11:12
ikoniathe official stance is that it has 5 years of server support and 3 years of desktop support11:13
bharat<Speiros> exactly11:13
ikoniaso if a package is a desktop package it will not be maintained post 3 years11:13
ikoniathe realisty is that a lot of the server and desktop packages cross over11:13
Speirosbharat Ok.  If you are ready to install to a disk, choose that option, and it should guide you through the installation.  I have to leave in about 10 minutes though, but can help in these early stages.11:14
eronisIs it a security risk to have it more than 3 years as desktop os ?11:14
eronisSome distros do it you see11:14
eronisLinux Mint, Linux Lite11:14
ikoniano distros do it11:14
eronisSo basically, I have 3 years of support for every release ?11:15
ikoniaif a product has $X years of support, and you use it longer than $X years that is a risk as it will be unmaintined11:15
eronisAnd I have some unsupported packages even now on my 16.04 LTS11:15
eronisis it a risk ?11:15
ikoniaeronis: no, you will have 3 years of support for the Desktop packages of an LTS release (only LTS) and 5 years of package support for a server release of an LTS version11:15
eronisTo have them in my system ?11:15
Speirosbharat I mean, if you are ready to install to your hard drive.  If you do this, the option will come up so you can choose which hard drive to use.11:16
ikoniaeronis: yes, unmaintained packages are a risk because they are unmaintained11:16
iranenthat's why i love rolling distros like arch or solus11:16
bharat<Speirous> how to contact you?11:16
bharati mean if i have any doubt can i ask you?11:16
eronisOk, now I understand how support works.11:16
eronisThanks for your time :)11:17
eronisAnd help :)11:17
ikoniano problem11:17
SpeirosI need to go away for a few hours, but if you stay in this room, and let people know you are doing an install, it will work.  Are you installing onto this computer, or another one?11:17
bharatthis computer11:18
Speirosbharat I see.  It isn't possible to be able to talk on here then.  Do you use the IRC client on your phone at all?11:18
bharatno11:18
Speirosbharat That's okay, as I don't either.11:19
bharatthen how to contact you?11:19
bharatby mail?11:19
Speirosbharat All I can suggest is firstly, look at the information given previously about considering which operating system to load.  If using your version, then know it won't be supported after about three months...11:19
bharatubuntu 14.04 will spuuort for my lap?11:20
Speirosbharat Also, keep in mind your disk names, so you don't accidentally install onto your existing hard-drive.  If you've got as far as the prompts, it appears it will work.11:20
ikoniaubuntu 14.04 is tha earlier LTS release, I'd suggest you target 16.04 if this is a new install11:20
ikonia14.04 however is fine11:20
Speirosbharat I think so.  I used to have 14.04 on a laptop.11:21
Speirosbharat When choosing a file system, I'd use ext3 for my Ubuntu install.11:21
bharatmine lenovo b59011:21
TalcheWhy ext3 and not ext4 speiros?11:22
Speirosbharat How much RAM and Hard disk space?11:22
bharatin google its showing 12.04lts for this model11:22
bharat117GB free space11:22
SpeirosTalche Only because there's no need for ext4 yet, due to it being less than 2TB, and also that it doesn't need defragmenting.11:22
floating_rainwhy don't you all use 16.04 LTS?11:22
bharat& 1.5GB ram free11:22
iranenext4 is better11:23
Speirosbharat That would be fine.11:23
TalchexD11:23
TalcheI made a fresh ubuntuserver install with ext411:23
TalcheSo already a mistake :D11:23
SpeirosTalche I use ext4 too, but it's no problem...I hope:P11:23
bharat<Speiros> are you on facebook?11:23
TalcheAhh.. Fine than11:24
Speirosbharat No, I'm afraid.  If you are on here in about 2 hours, I will be here to help out if needed.  I won't be giving personal information out though.11:24
bharatokay11:24
TalcheBtw anyone has any experience with running a small home server?11:24
ikoniaTalche: whats the problem ?11:25
Speirosbharat I'll be back soon.  I need to do something important:)  See you in 2 hours approximately if you're still here.11:25
bharat<Speirous> may i know you're name?11:25
TalcheHmm.. I have a couple of problems ikonia :)11:25
kang0Is it possible to convert Ubuntu into .wim file?11:25
kang0Or image11:25
Speirosbharat Speiros:)11:25
bharatsure i will be there11:25
Speirosbharat Ok mate.  See you soon:)11:25
TalcheFirst one is that i can ssh through the same network over a second pc11:25
TalcheBut cannot ssh from other network...11:26
ikoniaTalche: ok ?11:26
jonkriWhat does it mean when apt-get is trying to fetch a file (http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/snapd/ubuntu-core-launcher_2.20.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb) that doesn't exist (the server returns 404)? Neither running apt-clean, or replacing /etc/apt with a clean copy of another Ubuntu installation, makes a difference.11:26
TalcheAnd i'm on a dynamic ip11:26
ikoniaTalche: so thats most likley a routing problem11:26
ikoniajonkri: looks like it's looking for snaps11:26
jonkriWhere may the apt-related state resulting in that problem be?11:26
TalcheOr can it be port forwarding trouble?11:26
TalcheIm pretty noob at servers11:27
TalcheBut willing to learn :)11:27
ikoniaTalche: are you trying to access it over the internet11:27
jonkriikonia: It is, yeah. What does that mean? http://lpaste.net/95268756087688396811:28
TalcheIkonia, yes i tried over 3g, doesnt go through11:28
ikoniajonkri: it means that packages are not on that server11:28
ikoniaTalche: right, so you're trying to access it over the internet11:28
ikoniaTalche: what is the EXACT command you are using to access it over the internet11:29
TalcheI got myself juicy ssh11:29
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jonkriikonia: What is requesting them, though?11:29
TalcheSo i just tried username@ip:2211:29
ikoniajonkri: I'd guess the way you've configured snap11:29
ikoniaTalche: what IP11:29
Talche192.168.0.10311:30
ikoniaTalche: thats a private non-routeable address11:30
ikoniaTalche: that will never work on the internet11:30
TalcheThe only one that i get through ifconfig11:30
ikoniaTalche: so there is your first problem11:30
ikoniaTalche: that is the internal IP - not the public IP11:31
TalcheOk... I kinda guessed it11:31
TalcheBut now im wondering11:31
floating_rainthat's funny11:31
ikoniaok, so there is your first problem solved11:31
ikoniause the public IP11:31
TalcheIf i can use some dynamic dns service to have a fixed address rhat i could use11:32
ikoniaDNS is nothing to do with this problem11:32
ikoniayou are using a non-internet IP on the internet11:32
ikoniause the internet IP - problem solved11:32
TalcheOk11:32
TalcheIll try it now11:32
smith_Hello everyone11:34
smith_i have an issue during iscsi target discovery11:35
smith_coonnectin refused11:35
smith_to discover target11:35
noobuntuHow do I get times new roman on ubuntu? The pdf reader evince is substituting dejavu sans which is breaking my pdf.11:36
noobuntuIf it substiuted a serif font even that would be OK11:36
jonkriThanks, ikonia!11:37
ikoniajonkri: sorted ?11:37
jonkriikonia: I wasn't the one experiencing the problem, so I can't tell yet, sorry.11:38
ikoniajonkri: you think you've found it though ?11:38
jonkriBut I bet you're right. apt-get wanted to install some snap packages.11:38
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noobuntuOK I got the required font but it still is not using it. Here's an image http://i.imgur.com/C0VfOwy.png11:44
noobuntuRebult font cache too (fc-cache -f -v)11:45
BluesKajHowdy folks11:45
estrellaCTbuongiorno11:47
estrellaCTgood morning11:48
Talcheikonia11:49
Talchestill i cant connect with public ip to the server :(11:49
Talcheimust be doing something wrong i gues...11:49
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x_Hi11:54
x_How do I make Ubuntu read my iPhone photos?11:55
Talchequit11:55
x_It can already recognize it, but not read photos11:55
afrokarlssonguten morgen, schprechen sie deutch?12:00
MonkeyDust!de12:00
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:00
bloonyI dont have a usb stick.. can I install ubuntu from windows 10 somehow? I found a solution with unetbootin and wubi, but it doesnt work with windows 10.. only older versions.. is there a replacement for this in windows 10?12:06
rorybloony: It's uber hacky and breaks a lot in my experience. Consider Virtualbox if you want to try it out. Otherwise I'd strongly recommend finding a USB stick. You can get a 4GiB one extremely cheaply.12:08
iranencan you burn it to dvd?12:08
bloonyI don't want to just try it..12:09
bloonydont have a dvd reader on this12:09
afrokarlssonclockwork orange maybe12:09
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luke_skywalkerhi12:10
luke_skywalker how are you?12:10
bloonyI'm traveling in india and wont be able to get a stick before a few days, but wanted to set it up now when I have access to a good internett connection12:10
luke_skywalkerindia, thats is a spirit12:11
iranendo you have even SD card, you can use it too i guess12:11
luke_skywalkerno12:11
luke_skywalkeri dont have sd card, but my r2 need a one12:12
noobuntubloony you can get usb sticks just about enywhere, even in India12:12
koffeinfriedhofbloony: I do not know anything about win10, but perhaps you may prepare a little partition on your harddisk and place a bitwise copy of the stick there. Are you familiar with linux?12:13
luke_skywalkerdarth vader is my father12:13
koffeinfriedhof!ot | luke_skywalker12:13
ubottuluke_skywalker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:13
MonkeyDustluke_skywalker  do you have an ubuntu question?12:13
luke_skywalkeryes i have ubuntu question, why ubuntu exist?12:14
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MonkeyDustluke_skywalker  to annoy you ... now go to another channel12:15
brotherBoxany idea when python3.6 will be the standard for python3 in ubuntu?12:15
luke_skywalkerhave you some slut channel?12:16
noobuntuCan anyone help with my font problem i asked?12:16
MonkeyDustnoobuntu  hit the up arrow to repeat your question12:16
luke_skywalkerMonkeyDust hit your fat ass12:17
brotherBoxcan an op please take care of this joker12:17
koffeinfriedhofnoobuntu: you may copy your fontfile to your system. But I do not know the graphical way in ubuntu itself.12:17
luke_skywalkeri kill you in one moment12:18
koffeinfriedhofnoobuntu: You may copy it to "~/.local/share/fonts/truetype" and update fs-cache12:18
luke_skywalkerim jedy knight12:18
Fuchsluke_skywalker: yes, hello, network staff here, would you mind stopping the silly threats? Thank you.12:19
luke_skywalkerno12:20
Fuchsyes.12:20
luke_skywalkerno12:20
brotherBoxyou dont agree with freenode staff12:20
brotherBox*Disagree12:20
luke_skywalkerno12:20
brotherBoxyeah, when in doubt they're always right12:21
toogleyi'm not sure if i understand the manpage of ln correctly: when i make a link from ~/dir/zshrc to ~/.zshrc - i have to use ln -s ~/dir/zshrc ~/.zshrc right?12:21
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luke_skywalkersorry12:22
koffeinfriedhofluke_skywalker: This is a support channel for ubuntu, not a replacement for psychotherapy12:22
luke_skywalkerok12:22
luke_skywalkerlet it be12:23
koffeinfriedhoftoogley: Yes. The first parameter is the target. ~/.zshrc would then be the link to ~/dir/zshrc12:23
toogleykoffeinfriedhof: thanks12:24
bloonygot disconnected.. no theres no sd card reader on it either12:25
koffeinfriedhofbloony: I do not know anything about win10, but perhaps you may prepare a little partition on your harddisk and place a bitwise copy of the stick there. Are you familiar with linux?12:25
bloonykoffeinfriedhof: I've used linux for a bit.. Im a programmer..12:26
bloonykoffeinfriedhof: so I can make a partition and use unetbootin to make a boot on that partition?12:27
noobuntukoffeinfriedhof: fc-cache right, theres no fs-cache command12:28
bloonywhen its booted the installer is in the memory, right? so I can remove all partitions in the installer and then use the whole hdd to install?12:29
koffeinfriedhofnoobuntu: sorry, fc-cache is right12:30
noobuntuDidn't work. tried qpdfviewer and okular viewer too, same problem. File renders fine in windows though.12:31
koffeinfriedhofbloony: Without a stick? No. You need an installation medium. I thought of using a virtualbox-Installation to prepare the free partition(s) on the host, e.g. get some free space in windows (unformatted), install virtualbox with ubuntu, give it access to the host, format the free partitions in ext4 and create your installation "manually" copying the installed vbox-ubuntu to the real harddisk.12:32
Tahr-Poopbloony, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM12:33
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SatieHey guys, I cannot acess many sites because of a request timeout problem12:33
arnold_shwarzennno problemo12:33
koffeinfriedhofnoobuntu: You may try to use your font globally using "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/" as folder and "sudo fc-cache" to update.12:34
arnold_shwarzennhi12:34
koffeinfriedhofTahr-Poop: he has no dvd or stick to boot from12:35
denisДратути12:39
SatieAnd I've already tried many browsers and also used the Manjaro12:39
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Guest90816Дратути12:39
Guest90816что я вчера бухал, почему у меня на ноуте стоит убунту?12:40
koffeinfriedhof!ru12:40
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:40
Tahr-Poopbloony, whats your partition table type?12:41
bloonyTahr-Poop: ntfs I think.. its a default windows 10 install12:42
ViciousLooRollis there any cheaper alternatives to photon?12:43
clubmate_hello i have a question abou plymouth(currently running ubuntu maté 16.04)12:44
Tahr-Poopbloony, thats file system, in disk management open properties of internal hdd and tell us partition style12:45
clubmate_are you talking to me ?12:45
clubmate_tahr-poop12:46
Tahr-Poopclubmate_, nope, i was talking to bloony12:46
clubmate_ok12:46
clubmate_does anybody in here have further experiences with plymouth ?12:47
Tahr-Poopclubmate_, just ask your question12:48
jonkriikonia: Unfortunately, I didn't find the problem, after all. :)12:48
clubmate_ok as i said i used to have installed ubuntu mate 15.1012:49
clubmate_whit a custom splash for plymouth12:50
Jackneillhey12:50
clubmate_whith12:50
qwereanyone know the solution for adjusting brightness in ubuntu 16.04 of Toshiba satellite pro c640? I have tried all the solutions from the ubuntu forums but none of them worked, I have tried this for 3 days12:50
Jackneilli downloaded the latest 16.10 img. 64 bit. is it compatible with no uefi bios?12:50
bloonyTahr-Poop: theres a efi system partition (260mb), recovery partition (1000mb), and a main windows partition (27gb)12:50
Satieqwere: did you tried xrandr?12:50
clubmate_but as i updated to 16.04 the splash changed to the edubuntu theme12:50
Jackneillunetbootin will suffice for creating a live usb?12:50
qwereyeah I did12:51
qwerebut it did not work12:51
qwereI did grub and gedit also, but my OS was crashed12:51
clubmate_http://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts12:52
SatieType xrandr and put the result in the pastebin12:52
qwereokay I will12:53
clubmate_sometimes google is the easiest way to get answers to your questions12:54
Tahr-Poopbloony, google > xboot grub4dos iso emulation12:55
koffeinfriedhofclubmate_: http://bfy.tw/9tBE :)12:56
qweredo I have to type only xrandr12:56
clubmate_ok as i said i used to have installed ubuntu mate 15.10 with a custom splash screen for plymouth, but as i updated to 16.04 the splshscreen changed to the edubuntu splash. Now i tried several ways to get rid of the edubuntu splash but it seens that just the shutdown splash is changing but the bootup splash is the edubuntu just like before... eventhough i deleted the original edubuntu folder...12:57
clubmate_thanks koffeinfriedhof for your frther help ;)12:58
koffeinfriedhofclubmate_: scnr :) did you try "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u"12:59
clubmate_yes of yourse12:59
clubmate_course13:00
qwerehttp://pastebin.com/xkCTFuVG13:01
qwerethis is my pastebin error13:01
clubmate_i changed the theme serveral times until i got mad and deleted all themes except the one i wanted... them opened the terminal and marked the original maté theme... but it only shows up while shutting down the computer... however while booting up the edubuntu splash shows up with no reason to me13:01
koffeinfriedhofclubmate_: In "/lib/plymouth/themes/NAME" do you find the configuration. I do not actually have access to it (only an ubuntu server without a plymouth theme). Perhaps you'll find solution there?13:04
clubmate_thanks ill trie that... btw are you a german?13:06
OnkelTemHi13:06
sdasdahey guys, everytime i log into my ubuntu i have to do ifconfig up and sudo service network manager restart. how can i enable my wifi automatically on startup?13:06
sdasdaplease help13:06
koffeinfriedhofdue to my awful grammar sometimes? :D Yes, I am13:06
OnkelTemWhat is Ubuntu Core and can I use it somehow for my Desktop PC?13:06
clubmate_koffeinfriedhof... haha yeah i recognized due your grammar, bc im too ;D13:07
k1lOnkelTem: see https://www.ubuntu.com/core  for starters. but most user want the traditional ubuntu on their desktop13:08
OnkelTemI think about creating a set of [minimal, virtual] hosts running the same system to deploy and run there several docker containers. I don't think Ubuntu 16.04 for Desktop is a good choice for it's using too much space13:08
OnkelTemk1l: I read it. Didn't understand a thing :)13:08
noggerhi, i'm an elementary os user, I had a little window request to insert my password to upgrade system sources, I usually negate because not sure where that come from, but today i was distracted and i inserted my sudo password, shoul I reinstall?13:08
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OnkelTemmaybe I should consider Ubuntu Server for my task?13:09
qwereAnyone please check the brightness problem of my laptop using ubuntu and this is the error I got in my pastebin : http://pastebin.com/xkCTFuVG13:09
OnkelTemOr Ubuntu Core?13:09
k1lOnkelTem: ubuntu core is more like the android model. you dont change the system, only with a whole new install/update.13:09
koffeinfriedhofnogger: #elementary13:09
OnkelTemk1l: Ah, I see13:09
sdasdaguys help please my wifi isn't working13:10
k1lOnkelTem: you can ask in #snappy13:10
noggerno one responding on #elementary, i have to do accounting asap, since elementary is based on ubuntu i thought of asking here13:10
OnkelTemk1l: snappy is a packaging system I believe, right?13:10
OnkelTemk1l: why would I?13:10
OnkelTemk1l: or you mean getting more info on the Core?13:11
k1lOnkelTem: yes its both. new package system for apps and new system setup like ubuntu core13:11
clubmate_sdasda u got any error messages or what? explayn your problem in particular13:11
Arpit97sdasda, use lan cable and then install proper wifi driver13:11
sdasdaclubmate_ when i start my computer i have to sudo ifconfig ra0 up, and then restart the network manager to be able to have wifi13:11
clubmate_thats a option13:11
sdasdait doesn't start automtically13:11
nogger@koffeinfriedhof no one responding on #elementary, i have to do accounting asap, since elementary is based on ubuntu i thought of asking here *edit not sure how to respond to an user on irc13:11
sdasdai have the driver and everything is configured but the ra0 is always down not up13:12
ioriasdasda, cat /etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 999913:12
k1lnogger: see if they offer support on forums or something else. or you can ask in ##linux . this channel here is for ubuntu only13:12
koffeinfriedhofnogger: "based on". ubuntu is "based on" debian. But they could hardly help you with e.g. Unity. One chooses its distro with its community. I never used elementary or had a look at. So I can't help you with this distro.13:12
ViborHi, I just read this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656/how-to-move-usr-to-a-new-partition/668#668 . Can someone please explain why when a directory is mounted over by a filesystem, this directory has to be found by mount --bind, and since ls -a tells it's neither hidden nor unhidden but it still occupies / space, where is it actually? Thanks :)13:13
sdasdai dont understand ioria13:13
noggerdoes this request ever happen in ubuntu?13:13
ioriasdasda, run it, and paste the ulr resulting13:13
ioria*url13:13
clubmate_sdasda hope it helps you out http://askubuntu.com/questions/228673/change-ra0-to-wlan0-in-ubuntu-10-1013:14
SpeirosHey people:)13:14
noggeri know it's a bad question but i have to choose between doing unprotected accounting or face the consequences of losing a time frame13:14
komododragonhy13:14
clubmate_hi13:14
ViborHope my question is not out of topic ...13:17
SpeirosWhat is it?13:17
ViborHi, I just read this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656/how-to-move-usr-to-a-new-partition/668#668 . Can someone please explain why when a directory is mounted over by a filesystem, this directory has to be found by mount --bind, and since ls -a tells it's neither hidden nor unhidden but it still occupies / space, where is it actually? Thanks :)13:18
ViborSpeiros: This13:18
Speiroslol okay Vibor:)13:18
ViborSpeiros: And here is a very good example of mount --bind, but it does not seem to answer my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/669/is-it-possible-to-delete-files-when-another-filesystem-is-mounted-on-the-path13:20
SpeirosVibor I see.  I couldn't tell you the reasons why, as I don't know.  Someone with more knowledge than me will probably be able to answer it in time though:)  If you are using Ubuntu, then you are also in the correct place to be asking it.13:23
ioriaVibor, it's not that directory, it's all root (/) A bind mount takes an existing directory tree and replicates it under a different point.13:23
ViborUbuntu has the strongest community13:24
Apachezmy google-fu is failing, is there a boot parameter or such to avoid that "please remove the installation medium then press enter" text when rebooting?13:25
ioriaVibor, and it's not 'hidden', it's just, we can say, overmounted13:25
hawAny people here?13:26
Apacheznah, just 1800 bots and you13:26
Viborioria: So, the only way to access the overmounted directory is to bind it to another point, right?13:26
haw1800 bots?13:27
ioriaVibor, i never done personally, but looks like that13:27
hawinteresting13:27
Speiroshaw do you have a question mate?13:27
hawNo mate13:28
ApachezSpeiros: I had a question...13:28
hawI just installed xchat client13:28
SpeirosApachez Yes, I saw it, but I don't know the answer.  In time someone will be able to help out:)13:29
hawI execute chmod 777 -R / yesterday LOL~~~~13:29
Viborioria: Thanks:)13:29
ioriaVibor, no problem13:29
Speiroshaw Ok...13:29
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hawafter that, I reinstall my system...13:29
Speiroshaw And what happened?13:31
piero!list13:31
ubottupiero: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:31
hawMy system DOWN!13:31
hawSo said13:32
Speiroshaw Ok.  Are you sure the changing the permissions was the problem?  If so, then do you recall what they were before you changed them, and can you change them back?13:32
joinrerhi13:32
joinreri can't paste to the sites, the ports are blocked why ?13:33
joinrerI use ufw firewall, and the default ruleset13:33
joinrer? What's Wrong here ?13:33
hawSpeiros, I have MANY PROBLEMS, i reinstall my system yesterday night.13:33
hawgod bless me, I will kick off my wisdom tooth tomorrow!13:33
hawSome people told me it will be horrible pain. :)13:34
hawBLOODY PAIN....13:35
koffeinfriedhof!ot | haw13:35
ubottuhaw: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:35
Speiroshaw Sorry to hear about your toothache mate.  As regards your computer, what specifically did you change the permissions in?13:35
hawNow it's okay, I fixed it. Thank you.13:36
hawI will be change the channel. :)13:36
Speiroshaw Ok.13:36
NarcM93hello there13:40
Speiros:)13:40
Ishkais there a way i can download the entire RFC index with like wget or something?13:40
Ishkahttps://tools.ietf.org/rfc/index13:41
hawHello Speiros, yesterday after reinstall my system(ubuntu), then reboot computer, the system show me a blue screen and say: Some problems happened, do you want to report that. I don't know whats happened13:41
hawI just installed an Nvidia driver.13:42
Ishkahaw ive gotten that message also13:43
Speiroshaw Oh, Nvidia.  Sorry, but I also have had trouble with Nvidia, and I don't know how to  help with that.  There are many on here who can help with that problem though, so don't let my negativity to Nvidia turn you off, as many have had assistance with those drivers, and successfully too, for the most part, they've had them resolved.13:44
Ishkaon litteraly every version of ubuntu. and i just ignored it and everything was fine lol13:44
Ishkaso unless it starts causing major problems and you have backups before tat error message you should be fine13:45
Ishkai am13:45
hawI'm worried about that happened again. It's horrible exception.13:45
Speiroshaw What Nvidia card was it?  Do you know the specifics?13:46
hawGTX 67013:46
Speiroshaw Thanks.  Maybe there's an article, or a log somewhere...I'll have a quick look online.13:46
hawVery very thank you, maybe my video card to old.13:47
hawtoo13:47
SpeirosAnd which Ubuntu are you using haw?13:48
haw16.0413:48
Ishkawell maybe your card would have the drivers on an older version of ubuntu like 4.1013:48
Ishkajk13:48
Ishkaget a new card13:48
cipher6Ok So, I'm running unity on 16.04, computer wouldn't let me Super+L to lock, so I went to the bathroom come back and my laptop is playing super porny jazz music, the screen is locked, and the password field is full of dots that I cna't erase to log in,13:49
Speiroshaw Thanks.13:49
stenosis101Hey there. I have a question about the look and feel of snap apps. Recently I installed the latest version of inkscape and libreoffice on my xubuntu 16.04 system by using the available snap application. In the end both looked very clunky and didnt used the default theme of my desktop environment. Applications provided by an appimage on the other hand don't have this problem. So my question is, why does a snap desktop appli13:49
stenosis101cation wont use the default environment theme and is there a way to change this behavior??13:49
cipher6Also, the gear button in the top right wouldn't respond to clicks to open the menu,13:49
Saitohi people.13:49
hawdetails: I reinstall my system--> Upgrade some software-->Install N's driver, then alert me a msg:some problem blah blah, I reboot my computer... blue screen... never get in desktop again...13:50
ioriacipher6, can you open a console ?13:51
cipher6Couldn't had to do a hard power down,13:51
cipher6looks like the porn jazz was from a rogue web ad,13:51
Speiroshaw There's a link here, but it states "14.04 and up" although not specifically 16.04.  It might be helpful to look at it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia13:51
cipher6the computer locking after I walked away, filling the password field nad not being clickable is still unexplained13:52
tatertotshaw: are you chatting from the computer right now?13:52
OnkelTemFolks, is there a package with sounds good for notifications and etc?13:52
ioriacipher6, try with ctrl+alt+l13:52
OnkelTemEverytime an requires a sound I have to search my hdd with lots of shitty sounds13:52
hawThanks, Speiros, U r professional.13:52
OnkelTemEverntime an +app13:52
Speiroshaw Well, not yet:)  I've a long way to go in this field.  If it works though, I'll be happy:)13:53
Ntemishello13:53
hawIshka thank you for your suggesting.:)13:54
Ntemisi need to push a lot of folders from one dir to another, in that dir there are same name folders with diff content and i want them merged13:54
Ntemishow i do it from cmd?13:54
SpeirosNtemis It's not definite, but here's a link that might help.  Let me know if it's a suitable option, specifically answer 14.  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/127712/merging-folders-with-mv/12771314:01
SpeirosNtemis That isn't showing multiple directories though, I don't think.14:02
Ntemistried mv and says Directory not empty14:02
SaitoPeople! pay attention>14:03
joinrerhow do i know the firefox holds all the files, and thier list14:03
joinrersay list of all the files owned by firefox?14:03
joinrerand also the vice versa the package that holds thatfile ?14:04
NtemisSpeiros: rsync -av works14:04
joinrerboth for local and sync databases14:04
masoud_hi14:04
SpeirosNtemis Nice.14:04
joinrerboth the installed on computer and also on the sync databases14:04
SaitoPeople. I got sth to ask.14:04
SaitoMay I continue?14:05
zykotick9!ask | Saito14:05
ubottuSaito: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:05
SpeirosSaito Just ask mate.14:05
SaitoHave you guys given a try to other distro like remix or phoenix?14:05
SpeirosNtemis Note that it mentions it will potentially leave empty directories to clean up after.  I think it will accomplish your mission, but will require clean up.  In my opinion that is.14:06
SaitoIf you have then, do they boot alongwith ubuntu?14:06
SpeirosSaito No, but I used Fedora early on.  I prefer Ubuntu.14:06
SaitoYeah, I am also a Ubuntu guy. But, where I reside there is a shortage of power.14:07
SaitoWith Ubuntu on it, my laptop stays up only for a few hours.14:07
SpeirosSaito I see.  Have you tried Lubuntu for instance?14:08
SpeirosSaito I haven't used it myself, but it is a lighter version.14:08
SaitoI have tried it once, but on a desktop.14:09
johan__^^14:09
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masoud_what is easiest way to set up vpn in ubuntu?14:10
SpeirosSaito I am unsure of how much difference it would make for your power outages.14:10
SaitoRemix and Phoenix are android-based actually. And,so they sound like less energy consuming to me.14:10
SpeirosSaito Hmm.  I'm not sure about any of the Android-based distros, although my bias is based on the lack of security on a phone, and this with minimal knowledge to protect myself.14:13
SaitoWell thanks for your time. I'll give it a try.14:16
SpeirosSaito Best wishes, and hoping it works for you, whichever one you choose:)14:17
Tahr-Poop_Saito, dual booting phoenixos/remixos is risky, last time it formatted my whole hdd to gpt making data unrecoverable; I think booting from usb is more safer option14:19
SpeirosTahr-Poop_ Hopefully he/she chooses Lubuntu.14:23
matti;]14:47
OnkelTemGuys, I feel really overwhelmed with all these modern Lego-style things: docker, snaps, juju14:56
OnkelTemHow to figure out WHAT do I need to learn and use? :)14:56
OnkelTemAn hour ago I though I need to build a set of docker images but after viewing couple of videos on juju I'm not sure anymore14:57
OnkelTemWhat do I need is a development environment, which I can use from Desktop and Laptop14:57
brunch875hey I want to change fstab so that sdb2 is mounted over /opt14:58
brunch875but /opt already has stuff14:58
brunch875is it fine to just cut and paste onto partition?14:58
brunch875or could there be some unexpected side-effects to that?14:58
adrian_1908my uneducated guess is that there should be no side effects to be expected. /opt is pretty barebones by default, just data lying there until you call it.15:00
adrian_1908what "stuff" is there, if I may ask?15:00
brunch875click.ubuntu.com15:00
brunch875google chrome, Riot and wine-staging folders15:00
brunch875worst that would happen is me reinstalling those, really15:01
adrian_1908brunch875: yes, but if you move them away and then back onto the newly mounted drive, it really should work. I cannot think of a reason for this to cause problems.15:02
brunch875adrian_1908: thanks, I just needed the encouragement15:02
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adrian_1908brunch875: good luck!15:02
k1l_OnkelTem: did you look at lxd/lxc already?15:05
k1l_brunch875: if you mount that over /top the old stuff will not be seen anymore.15:06
brunch875k1l_: yeah, I have it mounted on /media/brunch/programs right now15:06
brunch875going to move it there15:06
brunch875then edit fstab15:06
brunch875then reboot15:06
brunch875so /media/brunch/programs -> /opt15:07
brunch875and current /opt is left empty15:07
Tahr-Poop_ /opt calibre  click.ubuntu.com  kde3  vivaldi  yandex15:11
lord_daemonUbuntu consegue montar partição ufs para escrita?15:12
lord_daemonCan Ubuntu mount UFS partition for writing?15:12
gambl0rewhats the best way to upgrade ubuntu 14 using virtualbox15:15
k1l_lord_daemon: what happens when you mount it?15:16
k1l_gambl0re: ubuntu 14.04 can only be upgraded to 16.04 through the LTS path. the gui updater or "do-release-upgrade" on cli will work15:16
popeygambl0re: you have ubuntu 14.04 inside virtualbox and want to upgrade it?15:18
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OnkelTemk1l_: and that one too. One more name :)15:22
|\nhello, should i report this http://i.imgur.com/prtVObJ.png ?15:24
OnkelTemk1l_: and Vargant on top. So many lego's pieces w/o any understanding :)15:24
k1l_OnkelTem: hard to tell you what to use without knowing what you want and need. lxd/lxc is very nice if you want to let run linux (apps) on linux15:25
gambl0reyes i have ubuntu 14 inside birtualbox15:28
gambl0rethe reason i want to upgrade because its running so slow....15:29
gambl0reand maybe if i upgrade it fixes the issue15:29
OnkelTemk1l_: My setup is quite... regular. I'm a PHP developer, most time using LAMP. I'd like to build a portable development environmet so that I could easily switch from Linux Desktop to Linux Laptop and just continue working. And I don't want maintain two of them with usual ways.15:29
OnkelTemSo at this moment I'm selecting a good architecture15:32
gambl0rehello?15:33
OerHeksgambl0re, if you think upgrading solves that, go for it?15:34
popeygambl0re: unlikely upgrading will make it faster15:35
OerHeksindeed, i would check the host for unwanted processes.15:37
OnkelTemI would split my task into two subtasks: select a read-only part of the system (this includes services) and select a system to maintain data.15:37
WhitorHI all,  I have a weird issue. 16.04 printing to an HP 2100 laserjet.  When I print... nothing comes out... but if I open the print queue, I see my print job and it clears automatically! If I print multiple things... they hang out in the print queue until I open it. As soon as I do, the print queue dumps and everything come out of the printer. And ideas?15:40
lord_daemonk1l_ Read only the ufs partition15:40
WhitorSo, my process is > Print, open queue, go get my paper.     Not horrible, but It's my wife's laptop and I'd like to fix this for her.15:42
OerHeksWhitor, maybe this page is any help >> sudo hp-setup -i >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/770243/hp-laserjet-wont-print-16-04-lts15:44
WhitorOerHeks, thanks. I'll take any leads!15:45
OerHeksremove the printer first!15:45
WhitorOerHeks, I see that! just read through.... I will try it15:46
Whitorthx again!15:46
Apachezwhen doing "cpio -id /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-37-generic" on the initrd provided through ubuntu only a single file is getting extracted, how come?15:55
RNevilleHello everyone, have a problem with grub booting from undesired Harddrive, need to reset grub , running Ubuntu 16.0415:57
RNevilleForget grub command to get it reset15:58
OerHekseasy to forget, there is no grub reset command, just reinstall16:01
OerHeks!grub16:01
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:01
mage9000Hello! Problem (Ubuntu 16.10): Getting no sound from my Asus SupremeFX Hi-Fi (USB audio module that comes with the ROG RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 motherboard). I can select "Analog output, SupremeFX Hi-Fi" in the sound settings, but the head phones are silent when I run the sound test. It's also listed by Alsa (e.g. in alsamixer and ReNoise) - but it's silent.16:03
ppf!sound | mage900016:03
ubottumage9000: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.16:03
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wendicoHello, im trying to install unvanquised in ubuntu 14.04 LTS (up to date) but the command to add the repository "sudo sh -c ‘echo deb http://debs.unvanquished.net trusty main > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unvanquished.list’" returns "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unvanquished.list’: Permission denied". Can anyone help me in what is the problem. Thank you very much.16:21
ouroumovwendico, try sudo echo directly instead of using a sh -c layer16:22
k1l_wendico: do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unvanquished.list" and add the line "deb http://debs.unvanquished.net trusty main" manually if its not already there.16:22
k1l_or use "sudo -i" instead of the sudo sh.16:23
wendicosudo `echo or sudo -i returns the same, "permision denied" i go ahead try nano and tell u16:24
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k1l_for ubuntu you usually use  echo bla | sudo tee something16:26
tekeli-liouroumov, It won't work becaus the redirection is performed by the same bash shell which is calling sudo. that shell doesn't get the super powers.16:26
wendicoi did sudo nano and the line is there twice, and only those 2 lines in there, nevertheless when i do sudo apt-get install unvanquished i get "unable to locate package"16:27
k1l_wendico: remove one of the lines.16:27
k1l_wendico: then run "sudo apt update"16:27
wendicodoing it16:28
Miles_Prowerhello16:28
wendicoohh16:29
mage9000ppf: The USB sound device seems to be detected correctly by ALSA. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23926353/16:29
tekeli-liwendico, is it working now?16:29
wendiconow, sudo apt-get update gives me the error: Failed to fetch http://debs.unvanquished.net/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 107.189.33.26 80]16:29
wendicoso i still cant locate the package, i guess i added a wrong line to repository?16:30
tekeli-liwendico, I think 404 means the server can't find the file you requested. Check the URL very carefully.16:30
k1l_wendico: because that repo is down. talk to them to fix their stuff16:30
wendicoohh so the repo is down,16:31
wendicois good, at least is not a problem in my ubuntu hehe16:31
wendicothank you very much for the help, im gonna try to look in another repo16:31
tekeli-liGood luck wendico16:32
wendicothank you very much, u are awesome help in this channel like always!16:32
ioriawendico, maybe now it's working ... http://debs.unvanquished.net/trusty/main/16:35
helga_hello?16:36
tomreynwendico: don't use debs.unvanquished.net, it's legacy, no longer supported16:37
tomreynthey decided against providing .deb's16:38
wendicodo you mean i should not install unvanquished?16:38
tomreyni'm saying you will need to install it some other way.16:38
wendicocan you tell me how, im not very experiencied in ubuntu, should i donwload deb package?16:39
tekeli-liwendico, If you don't intend to use the repository you added earlier then you should remove it.16:41
tomreynwendico: you could use the "getdeb"/"playdeb" PPA16:41
wendicoi just deleted it hehe16:41
wendicoi deleted the lines with nano, is that ok?16:41
tomreynwendico: or you could decide against using APT to install it and od it as the unvanished developers suggest, clicking on the 'download' button on their front page.16:41
Miles_Prowerwhat is everyone up to16:41
tomreynwendico: yes that's okay16:41
tomreynhttp://www.playdeb.net/software/unvanquished16:43
tekeli-liI found a PPA "0.50.0-1~getdeb3~yakkety"16:43
tomreynyakkety is ubuntu 16.10, not 14.04, which you have16:43
tomreynpackages are release specific (most of the time)16:43
tekeli-li^ That's important16:43
tomreyni.e. you can't just use a package made for yakkety on trsuty16:44
wendicoi did hit the download button on the unvanquished web page but i get a tar.gz with some kind of scrip inside16:44
wendicoi dont know how to install that16:44
tomreynyou don't install it. it's an archive file. you unpack it to a new directory, then run that script.16:44
backboxa16:45
tomreynbut if this sounds a bit finicky you may be better off using the playdeb PPA16:45
wendicook, i decompresed and run it16:45
tomreynkeep in mind this software will never get updates unless you manually update it by downloading again, removing the old version.16:46
zykotick9wendico: note, once you use that binary install (vs. installing from a deb or a repo) uninstalling/updating will be much harder.  just sayin'16:46
wendicook that was easy, i was worried because inside the tar compresed file, the updater file said "not known file type"16:46
wendicoohh zykotick9 thank you for sayin, no i did hit install anyways16:47
wendicoif i need to uninstall i should have to read a guide?16:47
wendicoi normally always try to install from a repo16:48
kaminishiI would like to install Ubuntu but using an existing home folder. The installer will overwrite this folder?16:48
claudiusYou can make a backup16:49
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humoroustwoHello16:49
tomreynwendico: what zykotick9 just said is entirely true for non-packaged (.deb / apt) software you download and install using sudo. if you just unapck some archive in your home directory like you did here, all without sudo, and you trust those folks not to do malicious things, then you're probably okay, too.16:49
wendicokaminishi, i have the home folder in a separate partition and if i dont click format my home folder is always there with its things on reinstall16:49
humoroustwoI'm trying to run intellij as sudo so that I can update it16:49
wendicothank u tomreyn,16:50
wendicoi think i can trust the unvaquised team, i used to love tremulous aswell16:50
humoroustwoI've run idea.sh in the install directory, but it presents me with an installation wizard. Does anyone with knowledge of intellij know how to approach this?16:50
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wendicoHello again, i want to learn programing for android devices (i think that means in java) on my ubuntu desktop, i dont know how to program in any language even though im very familiar with code and i did created some webpages (html without java scripts). where should i start? should i install Android Studio for linux or do you recommend me to start somewhere else to make it easier for me to learn?16:56
tomreynhumoroustwo: maybe use this https://launchpad.net/~mmk2410/+archive/ubuntu/intellij-idea-community16:56
tomreynnote it's non-official. another non-official approach is the script at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30130934/how-to-install-intellij-idea-on-ubuntu16:57
SatieI've receiving "request timeout" in some websites17:01
tomreynSatie: and... you're looking for assistence in diagnosing those?17:02
SatieThe problem is that they didn't worked on Manjaro too17:03
humoroustwotomreyn: Cheers, I'll give it a go. Are you aware if intellij has any dependencies? The internet says that to uninstall it, you have to simple delete some folders :P17:03
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humoroustwotomaw: ah wait I'm using pro D:17:04
humoroustwonot intellij community17:04
tomreynhumoroustwo: if you'll be using the PPA i pointed you to, i would expect that dependencies are resolved automatically. i do not use this software, though, and do not have any first hand experience.17:04
OerHeksSatie, check with some extrnal source like http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/17:06
tomreynhumoroustwo: the stackoverflow description of the script posted there states it works with either variant17:06
SatieAlready tried, thanks OerHeks17:07
lol768Hello! I have a Radeon GPU and am trying to change from fglrx to xserver-xorg-video-ati17:07
lol768I am using software-properties-gtk17:09
lol768Choosing the open source driver and clicking apply does nothing17:10
lol768stderr says "Warning: install transaction not completed successfully: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.234'}:( org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages"17:10
realmistwhy can't I paste, and I use curl on ptpb and other I just can't paste due to some silly reason ?17:11
realmistI use ufw, as the firewall17:11
Talchehi all17:13
humoroustwotomreyn: Can I have the link to that stackoverflow description please? I'm struggling to find it :P17:15
siva_machinahello17:15
tomreynhumoroustwo: i posted it earlier: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30130934/how-to-install-intellij-idea-on-ubuntu17:16
humoroustwoWhoopsy, didn't see that. I thought there was a link on the launchpad or something17:17
humoroustwoI thought it would have been a bit pecular :P17:17
Talcheguys17:17
Talchewhen i set up a server, do i need to do any port forwarding for it to be accessible from other pcs?17:17
ppfTalche: port forwarding where?17:22
FredeI have an ubuntu system running as a bridge, currently, between my router and my internet. The bridging is working successfully and I can communicate through it. On the ubuntu system I'm also running squid. If I set up my computer to use my ubuntu system as proxy it works great. I want to do transparent proxying. I'm trying to get it to work with IPtables but so far no luck. Anyone know how I would accomplish that?17:22
Talchehmm17:22
Talcheany?17:22
Talchenever did it before..17:22
Talcheactually i'm noob in this stuff, so i'm only learning17:22
ppfTalche: nothing wrong with that. read up on what port forwarding is and does17:25
MonkeyDustFrede  that question sounds very specific, not sure if it's for this channel ... try #squid or ##security17:25
FredeMonkeyDust: Thanks. I'll try :)17:26
Talcheok17:26
Talcheand how can i see the external ip on the machine17:26
Talchesince it is server and i have only terminal?17:26
ppfthe external ip is the ip of the router, you need to ask the router17:26
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MonkeyDustTalche  dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com17:27
ppfip addr to list the ips of the server machine17:27
z1hazei have a relatively simple question i think. I have a web server, and an ssh user. i want the ssh user to be abllowed to create/modify/delete files in the web server folders.. what permissions does the ssh user need?17:27
z1hazethe web server is www-data:www-data of course and i have given the ssh user added to group www-data and gave the whole folder permissions of 775 yet he can still not use git on the webserver17:28
LavinhoIt is possible to use RAM memory with less voltage than the original netbook17:28
Lavinho?17:28
XunHi all17:30
XunI need help17:30
z1hazei solved it, i just had to restart the ssh session17:30
masshi17:30
masshow can i set up vpn in ubuntu?17:31
XunI need support with a touch bar on a gt70 msi. It works but nothing happen17:31
XunThis touch buttons are seen by ubuntu but there is nothing associated to them17:31
Xunhow can I set up them?17:32
Talchegot it working bro17:33
Talchethank youuuu17:33
XunI need support with a touch bar on a gt70 msi. It works but nothing happen. This touch buttons are seen by ubuntu but there is nothing associated to them. How can I set up them?17:34
MonkeyDustXun  is it a tablet or phone?17:35
XunIt's a laptop17:35
Xungaming laptop17:35
LavinhoIt is possible to use RAM memory with less voltage than the original netbook?17:36
ppfLavinho: beyond the knowledge of #ubuntu17:38
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DJonesLavinho: You might find some help if you join ##hardware (may be #hardware) but certainly not something that was supported by in #ubuntu17:43
Talcheguys.... anyone willing to help with a longer issue?17:45
Talcheor to form it better17:45
Talcheanyone willing to teach me ? :D17:45
alkisg!ask17:46
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:46
LavinhoCannot send to channel: ##hardware17:47
Lavinhohelp me17:48
ducasse!register | Lavinho17:48
ubottuLavinho: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.17:48
vaskozlHey I'm getting a new laptop this week and I am probably going to switch from 2 years of Arch Linux to Ubuntu.17:56
vaskozlI really like unity and think its the best environment hands down.17:56
vaskozlPlanning to do a minimal or command line install.17:56
MonkeyDustvaskozl  that's great ... prepare a usb or dvd so you can try it17:56
vaskozlIs it possible to simply install unity without the packages the utilities?17:57
MonkeyDust!mini | vaskozl there's this17:57
ubottuvaskozl there's this: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:57
xanguavaskozl: what would "simple unity" be?17:57
vaskozlI mean the DE with the search, hud and panel.17:58
vaskozlLike ubuntu-desktop but smaller.17:58
ducassevaskozl: installing the unity package would only install the environment itself, it seems. look at the dependencies.17:58
ioriamaybe a install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop17:58
vaskozlAh if just unity is sufficient that is awesome!17:59
ducassevaskozl: the scopes etc are just recommends, so you can easily avoid them as well.18:00
ioriavaskozl, a bit old but maybe works http://ask.xmodulo.com/install-minimal-ubuntu-desktop.html18:00
vaskozlThat's exactly what I was looking for, thank you!18:03
ioriagood luck18:03
mcphailI'm seeing stupidly high CPU usage from a "Web Content" process when running firefox these days. See https://ovh.themcphails.uk/index.php/s/GYkTSLuHM0wjm7N for > 20% CPU usage for a single tab with the Google homepage open. Anyone else seeing this?18:05
weolionce I open librewriter, how do i open back hte libreoffice suite ?18:06
weolihow do  I go back to libreoffice start page, if I started the librewriter ?18:06
farnkeyssomeone please help. I did a bad thing... I was trying to remove a file and accidently did rm -fr wrong and it removed all files (other than the hidden ones). Most things appear to be working ok. But desktop dir is gone, and now when I try to log in to the GUI after putting my password for my user it gives me a quick flash to "/dev/sda6: clean, 309538/41123840 files, 12159288/164476416 blocks" then it goes right back to the login s18:06
farnkeysI did create a new Desktop through ssh18:07
ioriamcphail, usually it'a an advertisement  ....18:07
farnkeysbut something else appears to be wrong18:07
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ioriamcphail, it opens silently behind the main page18:08
mcphailioria: nope. Happening on several "simple" pages. Some complex pages aren't affecting CPU usage18:08
TalchePeople, i need some help registering a new (free) domain for my server, and since i am on a dynamic IP i am not sure what to do... When i go to the page to register it i guess i will also need a DNS... So how to set up this DNS?18:08
ioriamcphail, oh18:08
mcphailioria: happening is afe mode as well, so not profile/extension error18:09
ducasseTalche: that is a more appropriate question for ##networking18:09
mcphail*in safe mode18:09
Talchethank you18:09
ioriamcphail,  flashplayer (or similar) involved  ?18:09
mcphailioria: I've tried with adobe flash and pepperflash. No noticeable change18:10
hehefarnkeys: are u capable of loginin?18:10
ioriamcphail,  no idea then ... how often it happens ?18:11
hehe farnkeys: even i get all the time "clean, 309538/41123840 files, 12159288/164476416 blocks", but i havn't deleted anything18:11
mcphailioria: noticed my fan spinning the past few days, but can't pinpoint exactly when it started. I think there was a firefox update quite recently. Don't know if that was a trigger18:12
ioriamcphail,  yes, to 5118:13
weoliducase hi, yyou did reply t o some of my questions , earlier , os I was wondering you could just tell me about it18:13
inclineleave18:13
mcphailioria: I'll keep poking around and see if I can find out more. Wanted to know if I was the only one :)18:14
ioriamcphail,  i noticed that too, but as i said, it was a stupid addv window18:14
ioriamcphail,  had to use pkill18:14
farnkeyshehe yes I can log in via ssh18:17
farnkeyslooks like I may have figured it out18:17
farnkeysrm .Xauthority18:17
farnkeyssudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME18:17
farnkeyschmod +x -R $HOME18:17
farnkeysreboot18:17
brainyronI'm having difficulty getting my backlight keys to work on my asus laptop.  I've tried a few of the common fixes I found through searching (acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=) but to no effect.  When I run acpi_listen and hit the proper hotkeys, I don't see any output -- I'm wondering if there's a special driver I'd need and if I'm SOL18:17
hehe farnkeys: nice to knwo:)18:18
farnkeyschmod +x -R $HOME might not be needed. Looks like that command will make all files executable if you do that18:19
mcphailioria: oddly, in the google example I posted above, CPU usage drops dramatically if I sign in to my Google account. Might be some javascript the current firefox iteration isn't liking?18:21
ioriamcphail,  maybe...18:22
ioriamcphail,  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321997/debugging-high-near-total-cpu-memory-usage-of-web-content-application-on-lin18:22
ioriamcphail,  sy, not useful18:23
twtduckHey guys, can I use the google authenticator pam module as a second factor for my vsftpd authentication?18:24
mcphailioria: yes - followed that trail already. That's why I tried changing flash player18:24
ioriayeah18:24
mcphailioria: CPU usage is normal if I log in: https://ovh.themcphails.uk/index.php/s/3AMFa2fO3eF5KlZ18:26
cybhi18:26
ioriamcphail,  i see18:26
LooCfurFuchs, that wasn't the christian thing to do, you're supposed to turn the other cheek. I be Fuchsed up18:28
farukmalı arap faikten alıyorum edirneye kadar da ben kullanıyorum arabayı18:28
cybanyone know resolving host lag in client browser on LAN Apache2 server18:29
ioriamcphail,  "Future versions of Firefox will run the browser UI in a separate process from web content."  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox18:29
twtduckcyb: How are you connecting to the server? Local ip?18:29
cybtwtduck yes on 192.168.1.0/24 one ubuntu server and two clients18:30
twtduckcyb How is pinging the server?18:31
cybtwtduck, when I try to connect to webpage on local server ... I can have 30 sec of lag before loading page18:31
cybping is fine between 100-200ms18:32
mcphailioria: yes, that may be an influence here. I'm asking in #firefox, but suspect they'll ask me to seek support for the Ubuntu build here...18:32
SaltyKawaiiNekohello. you only offer support for Ubuntu here, right?18:32
SeveasSaltyKawaiiNeko: any official ubuntu derivative is supported too18:32
twtduckcyb That is extraordinary for a LAN network. Might want to check your network configuration.18:33
saitoh183How do you delete a override file you created for a systemclt service18:33
Seveassaitoh183: with rm...18:33
twtduckSaltyKawaiiNeko What are you looking for help with?18:33
SaltyKawaiiNekoummm I have a hardware-related problem that I can replicate in any OS18:33
SaltyKawaiiNekothis isn't the right channel, I think18:33
SeveasSaltyKawaiiNeko: probably best to take it up with whoever sold you the hardware18:33
twtduck@SaltyKawaiiNeko What hardware is giving you trouble?18:34
ioriamcphail,  right, you know, some people  is in  hurry to get the new FF ! :þ18:34
cybtwtduck, I know ... but lag is only when I want to access web page on server ... if I try to connect to server with other protocol .. ssh for example there is no lag18:34
Seveastwtduck: it seems unlikely that you can use google auth for vsftp directly, as the ftp protocol doesn't have anything direct. Quick google found a way to do it with radius and a special auth server, which is the direction I would take it too.18:34
saitoh183Seveas, where are the override files saved...couldnt seem to find it18:35
Seveassaitoh183: isn't that in /etc/systemd/system?18:35
cybtwtduck :  I did that ;(18:35
SaltyKawaiiNekoit's my hard disk drive. I think it's not broken, I just misconfigured something or I fucked up replacing my PSU and my graphics card. I just wanted some hardware-related help, could you please indicate me any channel to start looking?18:35
SeveasSaltyKawaiiNeko: ##hardware maybe18:36
twtduckcyb, What is the file transfer speed over, say, ftp? It could just be taking forever to load because of extraordinarily low bandwidth?18:36
SeveasSaltyKawaiiNeko: but try here too. If it's too offtopic and nobody knows, we'll shoo you away anyway ;)18:36
saitoh183Thanks...damn typpo18:36
mcphailioria: got to have shiny things ;)18:36
ioriamcphail,  yep, they think it's an easy task18:37
Seveasmcphail: mercury is shiny. Turn into a mad hatter :)18:37
vaskozlJust spun up a virtual machine and fired up the minimal iso.18:38
vaskozlIt is amazing!18:38
vaskozlEspecially the disk configuration where you can configure lvm and luks (dm-crypt) so well.18:39
vaskozlReally, really impressed.18:39
vaskozlIs it possible to fallback to a cli and possibly install f2fs?18:39
SaltyKawaiiNekoOk, I changed my PSU and my graphics card. I didn't touch the SATA cables. Since then, my hard disk drive becomes "RAW" intermittently. as it is an intermittent issue, it's VERY hard to troubleshoot. when I try to test the disk, it magically starts working again fine. this happens in all OSs, however, all SMART tests passed and I think the hardware is ok. i've tested it with several tools. as I said, not sure if this is the18:40
SaltyKawaiiNekoright place for this...18:40
SeveasSaltyKawaiiNeko: I'd start with powering down and re-plugging the sata and power cables18:42
ioriaSaltyKawaiiNeko, what was the original issue ?18:42
SaltyKawaiiNekoSeveas: I already tried that, I've even switched them between drives18:42
SaltyKawaiiNekoioria: original issue?18:42
mcphailSaltyKawaiiNeko: make sure all your PSU->mobo connections are firmly seated. I had a similar problem with a slightly loose ATX cable18:43
ioriaSaltyKawaiiNeko, why are you doing that ? what is your prob ?18:43
Seveasioria: read a few lines up :)18:43
SaltyKawaiiNekoioria: i just upgraded my graphics card. as it requires a lot of power, I had to change my PSU. there was no "original issue".18:44
ioriaSaltyKawaiiNeko, ok18:44
SaltyKawaiiNekoi'll ask ##hardware too. thank you guys.18:45
SeveasSaltyKawaiiNeko: you sure the new psu has enough oomph?18:45
SaltyKawaiiNekoSeveas: enough what?18:46
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Seveaspower18:46
SaltyKawaiiNekoyes i upgraded it to one with enough power for everything18:48
ioriaSaltyKawaiiNeko,  drives become 'RAW'  if they are disconnected without the correct unmount or unplugging or for a power loss18:48
SaltyKawaiiNekoyeah that's why i think the hardware is ok18:49
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SaltyKawaiiNekohowever i've spent some hours here checking the connections and everything i can't figure out the issue...18:49
mcphailSaltyKawaiiNeko: any you have definitely checked the ATX connector to the motherboard?18:50
ioriaSaltyKawaiiNeko,  sorry, you can exclude a physical damage ( i hope is not)18:50
ioria*can't18:50
SaltyKawaiiNekoioria: if it's that, I'm very unlucky that it happened just when i changed my graphics card and PSU18:51
ioriaSaltyKawaiiNeko,  unplug the cord, turn off the switch, press power button for 1 minute ...  discharge the static of your hands ...18:52
SaltyKawaiiNekook I'll check the ATX connector (again)18:53
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SaltyKawaiiNekoany more recommendations before I disconnect and I open my computer?18:55
mcphailSaltyKawaiiNeko: check the voltages from your PSU as well (you'll need a voltmeter and a paperclip)18:56
SaltyKawaiiNekoI have to shut down this computer down and I don't have more at this moment, I'll lose connection to this IRC channel. I'm waiting for messages before I quit.18:56
SaltyKawaiiNekomcphail: these are my voltages measured using HWMonitor: https://i.gyazo.com/0b817af244ca2ae59af3d9c339baee30.png. (Columns are: Value / Min / Max)18:59
SaltyKawaiiNekomcphail: what do you think?19:02
mcphailSaltyKawaiiNeko: You can never trust software to check a PSU voltage. You'll need a voltmeter19:04
elias_aSaltyKawaiiNeko: IMHO the 3.3 voltage is way too low, 5V and -5V are clearly out of range, too.19:04
SaltyKawaiiNekomcphail: understood19:04
elias_amcphail: That is true. And a proper voltmeter.19:05
SaltyKawaiiNekoumm and what if voltages are bad? what does that mean? faulty PSU?19:05
mcphailSaltyKawaiiNeko: yes19:05
SaltyKawaiiNekoumm... :/19:06
SaltyKawaiiNekothis is not a cheap psu...19:06
elias_aSaltyKawaiiNeko: There's a thing called warranty.19:09
SaltyKawaiiNekoi know, but I obviously hope that i don't have to go into that mess19:11
elias_aSaltyKawaiiNeko: You don't want to go on using a faulty PSU, either...19:12
longxiadid i miss a patch or update on tcpdump from ubuntu or did they miss the last new version from januari 18th? Also, ubuntu seems to have made the security notices a bit harder to find since a few months.19:12
SaltyKawaiiNekoelias_a: yeah. want i want is a working PC, but with my luck...19:12
ioriamcphail, http://i.imgur.com/9PxmwLt.jpg    it takes almost the same ram of ff19:18
lord4163Anyone here that runs wordpress?19:18
lord4163Was working in the admin panel and it crashed :/19:19
BlueSharklord4163: try #wordpress19:20
lord4163BlueShark: Will do, seems like MySQL crashes o.019:21
BlueSharkThen #mysql maybe.19:21
lord4163Suspect the OOM killer19:21
mcphailioria: yes, the Web Content thing seems to be associated with firefox. No idea why I'm seeing such silly CPU usage, though19:21
ioriamcphail, good spot, btw19:22
lord4163BlueShark: Been running Tor on there too, probably out of memory on the VPS.19:22
lord4163[103923.414141] Killed process 1676 (mysqld) total-vm:1105516kB, anon-rss:147772kB, file-rss:0kB19:22
lord4163There we go19:22
BlueSharkAre we talking about a Desktop machine or a Serveer?19:23
lord4163VPS19:23
ioriamcphail, it's now taking 65% cpu19:23
Jharmhi, i was hopping to get a littel help, i was setting up a VPN. But ever time i try to connect from client side i get this error: TLS Error: cannot locate HMAC in incoming packet, not sure whats wrong19:24
lord4163Jharm: OpenVPN?19:24
Jharmyes19:24
lord4163Jharm: Oh you must use the tls-auth directive19:24
Jharmtry to connect from windows to linux box19:24
mcphailioria: I know people moan about ff being a cpu and memory hog, but I've never had problems until now19:24
Jharmi think i did: i un comment in server. conf and base.conf19:25
lord4163Jharm: I set up OpenVPN yesterday, and had to use tls-auth ta.key19:26
lord4163key-directionn 119:26
ioriamcphail, can you please go to www.google.com   and check it again in top ? tx19:26
Jharmshould it be a specific path, for example: tls-auth /etc/user/openvpn-ca/keys/ta.key19:27
Jharmor just tls-auth ta.key19:27
mcphailioria: I get redirected to google.co.uk, but still getting > 20% CPU19:28
Jharmyes lord key-direction is set to 119:28
lord4163Jharm: yes specific path ;)19:28
lord4163Jharm: In your ovpn profile too?19:28
Jharmok let me see if thats my issue19:28
ioriamcphail, thanx... i think we have a problem19:28
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Jharmyes ok19:28
mcphailioria: back to < 2% if I sign in to google19:28
Jharmi think did it correctly maybe thier is a typo19:29
Jharmtx19:29
ioriamcphail, interesting19:29
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lord4163Jharm: Yes, awesome! :)19:31
lord4163Jharm: can you check one thing for me?19:32
Jharmoh sure19:32
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lord4163Jharm: are you on Ubuntu 16.04?19:32
Jharmyes19:32
lord4163Jharm: systemctl status openvpn@server19:33
lord4163Jharm: do you get an error there about pid a file?19:34
lord4163about a pid file*?19:34
saitoh183is version ver 3.0.0 of fuse available via apt install?19:36
Jharma few errors: TLS Error: TLS key negociation fail19:37
SaltyKawaiiNekoi'm going to measure the voltages19:37
SaltyKawaiiNekosee you guys :/19:37
JharmTLS handshake failed19:37
Jharmand readiing acknowledgement19:38
Jharmdont sdee pid file error19:38
lord4163Jharm: That must be old, but do journalctl -u openvpn@Bilberry-Traffic | grep PID19:38
lord4163I got this weird error, but that pops up sometimes.19:39
lord4163openvpn@Bilberry-Traffic.service: PID file /run/openvpn/Bilberry-Traffic.pid not readable (yet?) after start: No such file or directory19:39
Jharmwierd nothing happens with that command19:40
lord4163Jharm: Oh then you haven't gotten that error19:40
lord4163It may just be me19:40
Jharmyes it must19:40
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Jharmmy issue must be with tls path as mentioned before19:41
BlueSharkHi, I'm facing RAM issues on Google Chrome (running Ubuntu 16.10). Anyone else having the same issue?19:41
Jharmi have two ta.key files one in ~/openvpn-ca/keys/ and other in /etc/openvpn, with one should i use?19:44
lord4163Jharm: the one referenced in your config file :D19:45
clissold345saitoh183, check http://packages.ubuntu.com/19:45
anonymous_hello19:46
saitoh183ok..it is tstill 2.9.719:46
Jharmok thanks a bunch for all your hlep19:46
Jharmhlep19:46
anonymous_help19:47
lord4163Jharm: You can just remove that key, you probably generated it in the wrong directory.19:47
anonymous_&help19:47
lord4163Jharm: the one in /etc/openvpn19:48
radialneonHello, I've recently started using Ubuntu 16.04.1 and noticed that the sound is a little strange. At some moments, the speaker volume is too loud, at others it's too low. Any tips on how I might investigate this?19:48
Jharmgood thinking19:49
mcphailioria: there's a profiler in ff. If I log in to google, ff is spending 96% of time in the "Gecko" function and CPU usage is low. If I'm not logged into google, Gecko is only at 66% and "Graphics" is at 21%. Do you see similar?19:49
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ioriamcphail, same 25% logged or not ....19:52
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mcphailioria: hmm19:53
ioriamcphail, wait ...19:53
fishcookeranyone get issue with scrambled X if we using ubuntu in long time... im used to use many GNU screen open, and tab browser open... after i automatically logout then login again i got the scrambled window with unreadable text19:54
ioriamcphail,  right, now stable at 0.3 (if logged)19:54
fishcookeranyone got the same issue there?19:54
clissold345!sound | radialneon19:54
ubotturadialneon: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.19:54
glachehi19:54
glache How can I change the 'quick flash of the default login screen' that I see right before my new login screen shows?  It kind of flashed the old one for a second.19:55
mcphailioria: if I look at the "waterfall" plot in the profiler, it is mainly "paint" and "recalculate style" events which are being spammed if not logged in. Far fewer of these when logged in19:57
ioriamcphail,  i wonder what it might be ... i'am on a simple dual-core i cannot afford such a loss19:59
mcphailioria: same here. Only notices it because my PS2 emulator was stutering. Can't interrupt Gran Turismo!20:00
mcphailioria: I'm going to try the upstream ff20:01
glacheWhy when I copy files, does it change them from executable to non-executable?20:01
bekksglache: what is the source filesystem and what is the target filesystem?20:01
glacheI'm coping from my home directory on one PC, to a flash drive, to the home directory on another PC20:02
bekksglache: Which filesystem is on the flash drive?20:03
ioriamcphail,  oky20:03
glacheExt420:03
al9898hello:) Does anyone know why a usb wireless network adapter will not automatically connect to a network upon startup, but will connect without me taking any actions once i simply remove the usb adapter and reinsert it?20:04
alkisgal9898: go to the connection properties, is it marked as available for all users?20:04
bekksglache: And where in that two-phase copy process the permissions get lost?20:05
AleatheriThanks, clissold345 (former radialneon here)20:05
glacheWhen I copy to the flash drive20:05
bekksglache: So what are the mount options of that flash drive?20:05
alkisgglache: if you mount the drive with sudo, does it work? because afaik udisks uses special mount options20:06
glacheHow can I mount with sudo?20:06
bekksglache: You dont. Just tell us what the current mount options are :)20:06
glacheWhen I plug it in, it automatically mounts20:07
alkisgWhy not? It's just an umount/sudo mount away...20:07
bekksglache: So what are the mount options?20:07
mcphailioria: upstream is still bad, although CPU usage and the "Graphics" blame in the profiler are both about 5% less20:07
alkisgThe mount options used to be hardcoded in udisks.c... had to recompile to change them20:07
alkisgI haven't checked udisks220:07
bekksalkisg: because try&error isnt necessary, "mount" will tell us everything we need to know. :)20:07
glacheI was wrong, it's actually msdos partition.20:07
ioriamcphail,  i see... i'am trying the same20:08
alkisgHehe20:08
bekksglache: The partition type is irrelevant. The filsystem type is.20:08
glacheSorry, that is the filesystem type.20:08
al9898alkisg: yes i even have the password stored for  all users20:08
mcphailioria: I'm going to have to take the dog out a walk, but I'll check my /awaylog when I'm back. Let me know how you get on20:08
bekksglache: So thats the reason why the permissions are lost. vfat doesnt support linux permissions.20:08
ioriamcphail,  ok20:09
alkisgal9898: can you try to logout so that you are in the login screen (lightdm), *then* insert the stick, then login, and see if it works then?20:09
glacheohhh, alright, looks like I'll have to use another flash drive or reformat this one.  ty20:09
ZoderUckhi20:12
al9898yes it works then it works even if i don't logout if i simply pull the adapter our and plug it back in20:12
alkisgal9898: the second one would work even if it was a user connection; the first one means it's an issue with the boot process20:13
alkisgal9898: so to sum up, if you boot  to login screen, then insert stick, then login, it works, but if you boot with the stick preinserted, it doesn't, right?20:14
al9898yes20:16
alkisgOK, sounds like an issue with network-manager to me20:17
alkisgI'd file a bug report...20:17
al9898ok i will do that20:17
al9898had one ready to go but wanted to know if someone had a solution before i did20:18
ioriamcphail,  mainstream i think is better ...20:18
al9898alkisg: im using a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 it never did it on my old ubuntu 14.04 so ijm definately goign to fiel the bug report20:20
alkisgal9898: another thing to try would be, sudo service-network-manager stop, while inside the user session, then plug stick, then start nm, and see if it connects20:21
al9898alkisg: ok will try20:22
roposo i have set ownership to myself and the root how do i remove myself?20:23
bekksropo: ownership of what? And what exactly did you?20:23
ropoof a directory20:24
lord4163ropo: how do you remove yourself from what?20:24
ropochown -R me ~/usr/{some directories}20:24
bekksropo: Which directories in particular?20:25
OerHekschown root:root20:25
ropothen i realised i messed up, and chown -R me ~/usr/{lib/node_modules, bin, local}20:25
ropothen i realised i messed up, and chown -R root ~/usr/{lib/node_modules, bin, local}20:25
lord4163ropo: that won't work, remove the spaces20:26
lord4163ropo: and usr is located in your home dir?20:26
bekksropo: are you talking about /usr/... or ~/usr/... ?20:26
roposorry /usr20:26
ropoto be precise, i did sudo chown -R $(whoami) $(npm config get prefix)/{lib/node_modules,bin,share}20:28
ropo`-rwxr-xr-x  1 ubuntu root      155008 Oct 14 16:02 sudo` this thing concerns me20:28
ropoubuntu = my usernmae20:29
ropobekks: yes /usr20:29
bekksropo: I'd restore a backup or reinstall that thing then.20:30
ropobekks backup of what?20:31
bekksropo: BAckup of what you messed up.20:31
ropobut i have messed up the /usr20:32
bekksropo: Yes. So restore your backup of /usr20:32
ropohow do i do that?20:32
lord4163ropo: You just change the permissions back using chown, or what is your goal?20:32
bekksropo: How did you create your backup before?20:32
ropoi never did20:32
bekksropo: So its nothing worth to be kept. Just reinstall then.20:33
muzmmilhi can anybody help me installing offline wikipedia on RPI?20:33
ropothe os?20:33
bekksropo: Yes.20:33
ropobah!20:33
OerHeksusing proper full root:root would do > sudo chown -R root:root $(npm config get prefix)/{lib/node_modules,bin,share}20:34
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xrandr_laptopHi there20:35
xrandr_laptopI just installed 16.04 desktop on my laptop. Things tend to run a little slow. Is there a way I can speed up the response time on my laptop?20:35
bekksxrandr_laptop: Which CPU do you have and how much RAM do you have?20:35
lord4163ropo: or you just explain to us what your problem is, we don't have crystal balls!20:36
xrandr_laptop3.4 gb ram, AMD E1-1500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2 processor20:37
ropoi changed the ownership of /usr to root and myself20:37
bekksropo: Either to root or to yourself.20:37
roposudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set20:38
ropoi got this ^20:38
lifeformsI have quite the predicament on an ancient box that I do-release-upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04: rsyslog is no longer logging everything (userspace programs/logger/postfix for instance. kernel does log). I compared /etc/rsyslog.conf, /etc/rsyslog.d, and dpkg -l|grep syslog between the upgraded box and a clean one, they're the same. from a forum thread, I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure rsyslog and afterwards sudo apt-get install --reinstall rsyslog which h20:38
muzmmilwikipedia offline on RPI .....raspbian os???20:38
bekksropo: you changed the owner, not the permissions, did you?20:38
ropoyes20:38
bekksropo: So set the owner as you have been told above :)20:39
ropook, what about the sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set ?20:39
lord4163ropo: That is NOT describing your problem/goal, that is describing an action.20:39
bekksropo: root has uid 0.20:39
xrandr_laptopbekks, that's the info you requested20:40
tomreynxrandr_laptop: hmm that's a rather slow CPU. about RA: 3.4 GB sounds like you are runing a 32-bit OS?20:40
xrandr_laptoptomreyn, it's running 64 bit actually20:40
bekksxrandr_laptop: your cpu is a very slow one.20:41
xrandr_laptopbekks, yeah the laptop is kinda old. About 6 years old20:41
SchrodingersScat!flavors | xrandr_laptop, you can try different flavors of ubuntu.  I happen to go with xubuntu more often than not, but lubuntu is supposedly even lighter.20:41
ubottuxrandr_laptop, you can try different flavors of ubuntu.  I happen to go with xubuntu more often than not, but lubuntu is supposedly even lighter.: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE20:41
xrandr_laptopugh, I don't want to reinstall :(20:42
SchrodingersScatthat's up to you20:42
mcphailioria: yes, slightly better. Still not perfect, though20:42
xrandr_laptopI guess I'll just have to live with this for awhile. I just spent the better part of 2 hours setting this laptop up the way I like it20:42
tomreynxrandr_laptop: there's no need to reinstall, there are meta packages to switch between flavors.20:43
roposo i did, sudo chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo20:43
ropoand it says: sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set20:43
mcphailioria: don't see the same issue with Chrome20:43
alkisg$ sudo find /usr ! -uid 0 ==> /usr/bin/at20:44
alkisg$ ls -lha /usr/bin/at ==> -rwsr-sr-x 1 daemon daemon 50K Ιαν  15  2016 /usr/bin/at20:44
alkisgropo, this ^ is the only thing I have in /usr not owned by root20:44
alkisgThe setuid bit is about permissions, not owner20:44
ropoalkisg: so what should i do?20:44
ioriamcphail, yes, after a reboot is still consuming memory, but cpu is ok   (confused)20:45
alkisgropo: first, restore at to the proper owner. Then, think why the permissions were changed...20:45
xrandr_laptoptomreyn, are there instructions for this?20:45
mcphailioria: hmm. I'll try a reboot20:45
ioriamcphail, yes, please20:45
bekksxrandr_laptop: sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop   <-- for installing xubuntu, e.g.20:45
xrandr_laptopok thanks20:45
xrandr_laptopbrb20:45
ropoalkisg: just to make sure, everything under /usr is supposed to be owned by root, right?20:45
alkisgropo, everything except at20:45
alkisgropo, at least in my normal installation20:46
alkisgropo, if you have any weird packages, you might have other files not owned by root there20:46
adalbertHi, question, Does anyone know of an elegant way to redirect dhcp users of a wifi hotspot to a login page on apache2.  I got the redirect working for the http protocol , but https keeps complaining about Certificate Authorization ...20:46
alkisgropo, sudo should be like this: $ ls -lha /usr/bin/sudo ==> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 157K Αύγ  17 16:19 /usr/bin/sudo20:46
xrandr_laptopand back20:46
alkisgropo, but it's not the only one; if you somehow changed the permissions, there are others files to check20:46
xrandr_laptopwanted to change my Hexchat theme :)20:46
tomreynxrandr_laptop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306282/can-i-change-my-ubuntu-install-into-a-different-flavour-like-kubuntu#answers20:47
mcphailioria: no improvement for me20:47
ioriamcphail, no answer on #firefox20:48
bekksioria: How long did you wait there?20:48
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mcphailioria: yes. Saw you'd joined. I asked earlier and just got the usual "try safe mode" answer20:48
test12345|2so is anybody using handbrakecli on ubuntu 16.04? just wanted to try it on my tiny server, but sudo apt-get install handbrake-cli  seems to only give me some man pages20:48
ioriabekks, to be honest, not much20:48
bekksropo: a very few packages install file under /usr which arent owned by root. A very very few.20:49
mcphailbekks: I've been there for a couple of hours20:49
ropobekks: i see20:50
ropoomg i can't sudo now20:50
ropo:(20:50
bekksropo: what did you do?20:50
ex-novoayy lmao20:51
lord4163ropo: use su20:51
ropobekks: whenever is sudo  i get sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set20:51
bekkslord4163: root has no pw by default, so he cant use su.20:51
lord4163bekks: ah :D20:52
ioriamcphail, sy, cannot help any further20:52
bekksropo: So show us the output of "ls -lha /usr/bin/sudo" then.20:52
lord4163ropo: boot from live usb and fix it20:52
ropo-rwxr-xr-x 1 ubuntu root 152K Oct 14 16:02 /usr/bin/sudo20:52
ropolord4163: i am on a server :)20:52
ropo:(20:52
bekksropo: You need to reboot from a live cd/usb and fix it.20:53
lord4163ropo: VPS?20:53
adalbert-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 136808 Aug 17 15:20 /usr/bin/sudo20:53
ropoaws20:53
mcphailioria: thanks for looking :)20:54
ioriamcphail, np20:54
ropocan't we just chmod or chown?20:54
bekksropo: No.20:54
adalbertsu?20:54
bekksadalbert: root has no pw set by default, so no su.20:54
adalbertright20:55
ropodamn.20:56
tekeli-liWhat options exist, if any, to interact with my fruity i-devices in Ubuntu?20:56
lord4163tekeli-li: syncthinng20:56
Simoniousis it tough to get ubuntu with no GUI?  does that question even make sense?20:56
SimoniousI've got a machine I want to setup for shell use only20:57
Simoniousit'll run headless most of the time20:57
bekksSimonious: Just install the server variant, done.20:57
lord4163tekeli-li: or not20:57
Simoniousbekks: thanks20:57
Bashing-om!minimal | Simonious20:57
ubottuSimonious: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:57
zykotick9Simonious: or mini, and don't select a desktop environment20:57
tekeli-lilord4163, thanks, i'll look into it.20:57
k1l_Simonious: server and desktop share the same kernel and base system. so install the server version and you can start using it wihtout a desktop.20:57
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lord4163tekeli-li: I was wrong actually :(20:57
SimoniousI'm planning to set this machine up as a NAS, I tried freeNAS, don't like it.  Considering arch, but leaning ubuntu.20:58
cybex_hi all, I am completely lost. I am trying to setup a linux box as a router. I have enabled port forwarding. I have added iptable rules to forward traffic between interfaces. I have setup interfaces with static ip's and metrics where the actual router gatway is the lowest, did I miss anything?20:58
Simoniousa couple of you said server, a couple of you said mini/minimal - Should I be leaning more towards one of those and why?20:59
StuckMojoso i'm trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04.1 and i'm getting "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." How do i tell what packages are tripping it up?20:59
k1l_Simonious: you want a server install20:59
Simoniousk1l_: ty21:00
bekksSimonious: they all share the same kernel. The just differ by the installed package sets.21:00
zacwallsWould I be able to format a 1 TB HDD as NTFS and mount it like a filesystem?21:00
zacwalls*as a21:00
k1l_StuckMojo: might be an 3rd party package or a PPA making issues. you should look into the logs from the updater21:00
Bashing-omSimonious: As k1l_ said, does not matter . both share the same base .21:00
k1l_StuckMojo: "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999"21:01
SimoniousNext question: I've got two 1T drives and two 2T drives I want to use for the NAS, I'm planning to go straight mirroring software RAID for 3T of storage PLUS a ~300G OS/boot drive - any reason that is a bad plan?21:01
bekksSimonious: For the OS, 10G are sufficient.21:01
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StuckMojok1l_: http://termbin.com/32ky21:02
k1l_zacwalls: yes, you can format and use ntfs. but you can only use that as data partitions, not as system partitions21:02
Simoniousbekks: Alright, I probably have a smaller drive laying around21:02
bekksSimonious: you dont need a separate drive, actually :)21:02
zacwallsk1l_, a data partition?21:02
Simoniousbekks: I know, but I like the idea of the OS and the data store being seperate21:03
k1l_zacwalls: you can run the ubuntu system on that21:03
StuckMojok1l_: i think this is from more than one attempt21:03
bekksSimonious: And you like the idea of not mirroring your OS, too?21:03
StuckMojok1l_: let me clear the file and try again so i get just a single list21:03
zacwallsk1l_, but I wouldn't be able to store files on it?21:04
k1l_StuckMojo: no. i hav to think about itt a bit, wait21:04
k1l_zacwalls: sure. that is what a data partition is for21:04
Simoniousbekks: The OS is quickly replaceable, heck I can boot off a USB stick21:04
bekksSimonious: So dont waste a drive for it then :)21:04
StuckMojok1l_: too late ;)21:04
zacwallsk1l_, oh so I have it backwards :)21:04
zacwallsperfect21:04
* Simonious thinks21:04
SimoniousI do have another question21:05
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Simoniousdoes mirroring tell you when a drive fails?21:05
SimoniousI think that is the wrong question..  How do I track drive health?21:05
k1l_StuckMojo: "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | nc termbin.com 9999"21:05
bekksSimonious: You need to monitor it, yes.21:05
Arkikashello21:05
StuckMojohttp://termbin.com/iw2221:06
StuckMojok1l_: the list was just as big anyway21:06
k1l_StuckMojo: 2017-02-04 15:05:17,529 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'postgresql-plperl-9.1' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'21:06
k1l_that is the cause, afaik21:06
StuckMojoaha, yes i see it21:06
StuckMojoi can kill that21:07
k1l_StuckMojo: and whatever "nerolinux" is21:08
StuckMojok1l_: binary cd/dvd burner21:08
StuckMojocommercial crap. i can dump that too21:08
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lifeformsSimonious: smartmontools is good for monitoring drive health with SMART21:13
Simoniouslifeforms: ty :)21:13
StuckMojok1l_: thanks21:13
xrandr_laptopbrb21:14
xrandr_laptopooh, better theme :)21:15
StuckMojok1l_: so, i'm not sure removing that is going to help. i installed postgres from the official postgres apt repo21:16
ropohow do i enter recovery mode from command line21:16
StuckMojoi think that repo is being disabled as part of the upgrade process, so it wants to remove all those packages21:16
StuckMojoany way around that?21:16
StuckMojoi.e. i think if i remove that 9.1 plerl, it will complain about a different one21:16
StuckMojoi mean, in a pinch i can remove all the pg packages and just reinstall them after the upgrade...21:17
bekksropo: you need to do that in the grub prompt.21:18
ropobekks:  and how do i do that?21:19
ropoyou mean on start up?21:19
k1l_StuckMojo: did you disable universe repo?21:19
bekksropo: right before booting, in the bootloader, yes.21:20
StuckMojok1l_: not explicitly21:20
k1l_please look at it if its disabled.21:20
k1l_make sure universe and security are not disabled21:20
StuckMojok1l_: it is not, currently21:21
ropothanks bekks and lord416321:21
StuckMojoyeah so the PGDG apt repo does have xenial packages..21:22
StuckMojoso i think if i could get it not to disable that repo during the upgrade, it would go smoothly21:22
k1l_pgdg?21:22
lord4163ropo: you press shift when it boots, that will open grub21:22
StuckMojopostgres development group21:23
lord4163the grub menu*21:23
bekkslord4163: He's on a AWS instance. No remote console.21:23
StuckMojohttp://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/21:23
k1l_StuckMojo: uh, so its not the ubuntu package but a 3rd party one21:23
StuckMojoyes, sort of21:23
ropolord4163: thanks but i am on a remote server21:24
ropoaws21:24
k1l_no, if its not from the ubuntu repos its a 3rd party one.21:24
StuckMojopgdg takes the official debs and builds them for all debian and ubuntu releases, in all supported PG versions21:24
bekksropo: So reinstall.21:24
ropobtw can we tell them to reinstall?21:24
StuckMojoso that you're not stuck with whatever pg version the distro thinks you must have21:24
k1l_StuckMojo: the packages in the ubuntu repos get automated testings. so that 3rd party install is what the upgrade breaks.21:24
k1l_StuckMojo: so revert that package to the official state and the upgrade will work21:25
lord4163ropo: Ah, I don't have any experience with AWS.21:25
k1l_StuckMojo: btw ubuntu offers postgresql-plperl-9.3 for 14.0421:25
StuckMojok1l_: that's the point, there aren't official packages of those versions. that's why the pgdg repo exists21:25
glache14/f/cali21:25
bekksglache: Wrong networl.21:25
StuckMojoi'm a pg developer. i need many versions21:25
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corelectronicHow can I make windows operating system again?21:25
StuckMojoanyway. so there's no way to get it not to disable that repo during the upgrade? which means i'm stuck unintalling and reinstalling those packages21:26
lord4163ropo: DigitalOcean has an HTML5 console and doesn't cost a fortune and you can take snapshots of the machine.21:26
k1l_StuckMojo: no, the point is ubuntu cant handle 3rd party packages and guarantee a smooth upgrade.21:26
glachelol, jk, sorry21:26
corelectronicHEY MY FRİENDS ?21:26
corelectronic How can I make windows operating system again?21:26
ropolord4163: does it listen to key events?21:26
StuckMojok1l_: i understand what you're saying21:26
k1l_StuckMojo: ok.21:27
ropokeyboard*21:27
StuckMojok1l_: i'm just looking for a way to force it ;) if it breaks, i'll keep both pieces21:27
lord4163ropo: what do you mean?21:27
lord4163ropo: yes?21:27
k1l_StuckMojo: you could use ppa-purge to revert to the ubuntu state of the package so the repo doesnt break the upgrade21:27
corelectronicANANIZIN AMI AQ21:27
corelectronicTÜRK YOKMU LAN BURDA AMQ21:27
corelectronicOÇLAR21:28
ropolike will it be like a general monitor?21:28
StuckMojok1l_: i'll just uninstall them and put them back after21:28
tgm4883StuckMojo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/147080/comments/921:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 147080 in update-manager-core (Ubuntu Jaunty) "do-release-upgrade should make disabling third party repositories optional" [Wishlist,Fix released]21:28
StuckMojotgm4883: oh sweet21:28
lord4163ropo: Yes, you see it boot. Sign up using https://m.do.co/c/4c0dbd9339dc and you get $10 for free21:29
ropolord4163: anyways, leave it, getting a new server ;(21:29
bekksropo: Why not just reinstall that thing, finally?21:30
bekksropo: you could have done that two hours ago already.21:30
ropobekks: how do i reinstall?21:31
bekksropo: BY asking the AWS support to initiate a reinstall.21:31
ropodo they do that?21:31
bekksropo: Ask them?21:31
tomreyni don't think there is something called "AWS support"21:33
bekkstomreyn: At least there is some place where he got his AWS instance from.21:34
bekkstomreyn: Thats the place to go to now :)21:34
tomreynyes, probably the AMI repository21:34
dh128hello! i want to know if it's worth making a PPA for a script + related files I intend to host21:34
StuckMojotgm4883: BAM! that did it, thanks! i left only the pgdg repo enabled, i let it disable all the others. and i edited that one by hand to point it to xenial befor running the upgrade tool21:34
StuckMojonow it's happy21:34
StuckMojok1l_: thanks as well21:34
reisiodh128: you already established it's worth your time since you clearly want to do it, and people clearly want you to, or so you said21:36
dh128reisio: im still new to linux in general21:37
dh128reisio: if it's more hassle than it's worth then i'd just redirect people to the github page21:37
reisiodh128: oh, well21:37
reisioI think probably if you weigh the ease of installing a ppa21:37
reisiovs the ease of running a script you put on github21:37
reisioyou may as well go with the latter21:37
reisiofor this particular thing21:38
reisioyou can put sudo apt-get install blah lines into your script if you want21:38
dh128reisio: yeah i think i'll do that21:39
dh128it's only 4 commands anyway21:40
reisiodh128: too right21:42
reisiosh ftw21:42
reisioI wrote all of Eurasia in sh21:42
reisiothat's why it's so robust21:42
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dh128yeah21:43
dh128still can't believe google got me this far21:43
dh1283 days ago i didn't know what a hashbang was21:43
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reisioI think 'shebang' is older, so I use that21:46
reisiobut we should really think of an altogether funnier-still name for it21:46
weeverhi guys21:51
reisiohi wee21:52
reisioby wee21:52
posIf I dd an ubuntu iso onto a flashdrive or use grub isoloop the installer will fail at mounting the install media (since there is no ODD or media). anyone found a way to beat this?21:52
reisioODD?21:56
posoptical disc drive21:59
reisiopos: what actually happens after you dd the image and boot the flash drive?21:59
posinstaller runs but fail at detecting and mounting the install media22:00
reisiocan you be more specific?22:00
poswell, it can't detect an install disk since there is no ODD and no media to mount :)22:01
reisiothat statement is somewhat at odds with your other statement 'installer runs'22:03
poswell, ofc the curses installer runs (using server iso/media), i set up language, keyboard layout and then it fails at finding and mounting install media22:04
reisiothe curses installer?22:05
reisioyou using the minimal?22:05
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posreisio, server installer, the text, boxes and colors gui22:18
zg34omg22:18
arunsHi, I am running Ubuntu 16.04. Just noticed that getting sound from the left speaker but not the right. Checked alsamixer and couldn't find any channels that would have been related to the right speaker, so wonder if there's a setting I need to change in any of the .conf files for pulseaudio?22:23
arunsOr maybe it could be some sort of permissions issue?22:23
k1l_aruns: or maybe its a cable/hardware issue? :)22:23
arunsk1l_: It was working fine earlier today.22:23
arunsI will give you some of my hardware info.22:24
arunsI get HDA Intel at 0xf6afc000 irq 30 running cat /proc/asound/cards22:24
daniel-4Anyone know about a rootkit that Rkhunter found? kWARN-- [rootkit004w] Chkrootkit has detected a possible rootkit installation Possible Linux/Ebury - Operation Windigo installed22:24
tgm4883aruns: contrary to popular belief, things don't usually just break randomly. What changed from when it was working earlier?22:24
StuckMojotgm4883: k1l_: thanks again22:25
StuckMojociao22:25
k1l_daniel-4: you still need to look into the issues rkhunter is finding yourself. its not a "one click and everything is done automatically". rkhunter brings up a lot of false positives22:26
arunstgm4883: Nothing really, I removed a few Vagrant boxes and was doing some work with the JVM through Scala and Java.22:26
arunstgm4883: Oh, I also installed vim-gnome.22:27
arunsThat's the only package I installed today.22:27
arunsI don't know whether that package is to blame or not.22:27
tgm4883aruns: laptop/desktop? You've tested the audio in the sound settings for each channel? You've checked the cableing didn't come unplugged (or halfway unplugged)22:28
arunstgm4883: Dell Latitude E5400 laptop. I've checked under the Sound Settings GUI and on Alsamixer.22:28
daniel-4kil_: not sure I only installed Ubuntu now and ran it as it showed in previous install.22:28
arunsI've tested on two separate earphones.22:29
tgm4883aruns: have you tried the built in speakers?22:29
arunstgm4883: Will do that now22:29
k1l_daniel-4: as i said: you have to rule out the "positives" from rkhunter if they are false positives or real issues manually. for your "issue"https://www.cert-bund.de/ebury-faq  i guess its just a false positive by rkhunter.22:30
arunstgm4883: Plays on both channels with built in speakers.22:30
tgm4883aruns: you've checked that you don't have some gunk/fuzz/lint in your 3.5mm port?22:31
daniel-4kil_: ok thanks22:31
arunstgm4883: I can't really much in the port.22:31
aruns*really see much22:31
arunstgm4883: And it's playing on the left bud when earphones connected, just not the right.22:32
arunsBut maybe worth cleaning out the 3.5mm port at some point then, I guess?22:32
arunsJust to be on the safe side.22:32
tgm4883aruns: yes22:32
arunsOK, thanks.22:33
ubuntuuserHello I have a problem I am trying to move the bios update into my /boot/efi folder so that I can upgrade my dell xps13 bios however I cannot get permission to move anything into the folder I have tried chown and chmod any ideas ?22:40
tgm4883ubuntuuser: have you tried sudo?22:41
ubuntuusertgm4883: yes22:44
OerHekssudo cp should work , http://askubuntu.com/questions/676594/flashing-bios-update-on-dell-xps-13-201522:44
ubuntuusertgm4883: it says operation not permitted22:45
tgm4883ubuntuuser: can you pastebin the command and output you had?22:45
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k1l_wasnt that changed due to some software removing the stuff inside the uefi folder firmware?22:45
journalso do you guys think snap packages will take off and do you believe they are break proof unlike apt22:46
tgm4883journal: what is break proof?22:46
k1l_journal: this channel is for technical issues only. for talk/polls better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for technical issues ask in #snappy22:46
journalk22:47
k1l_journal: and snap packages are already in use and the ubuntu touch is changing to use snap pacakges instead of the the old click packages22:47
ubuntuusertgm4883: pastebin.com/YeELKppU22:48
tgm4883ubuntuuser: no, 'sudo cp filename /boot/efi/'22:49
ubuntuusertgm4883: duh thanks mate!22:52
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glacheCan I recursively list all executable files in a directory?23:16
glachefind . -perm /u=x,g=x,o=x23:17
hankleHey, I have a fresh install of 16.04 LTS and can't seem to get anything to work. I've tried setting it as a static which gets me the "up and down" arrow rather than searching. However, when I try to ping my gateway (or any other local machines) I get destination unreachable errors. I feel like I've exhausted a lot of the options I have and am wondering if there's something else I should try23:17
hanklesorry, I can't seem to get a wired connection to work23:18
StuckMojowhat's the preferred terminal on xenial? gnome-terminal's transparency doesn't seem to work in openbox now23:26
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StuckMojohmm...eterm seems to still work23:29
zykotick9StuckMojo: no idea about transparency, but... you might want to check out urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode) if you want an "old-school-serious-terminal".... ymmv23:35
StuckMojozykotick9: thx23:37
adalbertHi, what desktop file manager is better than Thunar ? Thunar keep crashing and hanging , what a buggy file manager my god ... I need better !!23:39
caniocaniuccio23:44
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glacheI have several executables in a directory, how can I add them all to my system path permanently?23:50
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k1l_put them into ~/bin or expand the path with that directory23:51
glacheHow can I expand it?  I need to add it to the list.23:53
k1l_!path23:53
ubottuThe $PATH variable tells the shell where to look for the commands you tell it to run. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables23:53
glachety23:55
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