[00:00] <speed_> Bashing-om: yeah sorry
[00:00] <speed_> RickJames
[00:02] <diablo_> hi room
[00:04] <Bashing-om> speed_: And that bad drive is no longer connected ? so now what error do you get when booting the SSD ?
[00:04] <speed_> Bashing-om: No I didn't remove the bad SSD> i've got to take the doors off. BRB. Over due for that.
[00:11] <mices> is there a cups issue with 16.1?
[00:11] <mices> 16.10
[00:12] <renfor> hola
[00:12] <renfor> como les va
[00:13] <Bashing-om> !es | renfor
[00:24] <RicKJames> Bashing-om: OK. Removing that SSD correct the issue. Thanks for your help.
[00:25] <RicKJames> It appears to have been failing slowly over time I guess, at any rate, ubuntu and grub have been doing well.
[00:25] <Bashing-om> RicKJames: Great ! .. that drive is likely recoverable with rebuilding the partition tables .
[00:27] <simon2> hey! just tried changing my cursor on the root window by executing `xsetroot -cursor_name watch` - nothing happens, any ideas why?
[00:27] <simon2> `xsetroot -solid "#000000"` for example, works great
[00:34] <marin_> Hello from guam
[00:34] <marin_> I'm having trouble with SSH.
[00:34] <marin_> I am trying to connect to a Joyent machine using root@xxx.xxx.xx.x
[00:35] <marin_> however I am being prompted for a password that I didn't set up
[00:35] <tubal> Hello. So... Software Updater. It's icon appears in the launcher, but doesn't respond to a left-click. It has a right-click menu that includes 'Install All Available Updates'. That can't be its default behaviour, is it?
[00:35] <tubal> 16.10amd64
[00:35] <wedgie> marin_: then what were you expecting it to ask you for?
[00:36] <tubal> btw, I'm quite comfortable with apt-get. I'd just like to know how the GUI approach should work.
[00:36] <tobias_little> join /#<ubuntu 16.04>
[00:36] <tobias_little> hey
[00:37] <tobias_little> anybody here
[00:37] <tobias_little> just need help
[00:37] <wedgie> marin_: to log in as root you need a few things: sshd has to be configured to allow root login via ssh (many distros ship with that off by default), and you need credentials... a password, or better yet, set up ssh keys
[00:37] <tobias_little> i just update my ubuntu to 16.04
[00:38] <tubal> marin_: And it's usually discouraged, is it not, wedgie?
[00:38] <tobias_little> and i messup with resolution problem
[00:39] <wedgie> tubal: i would tend to avoid it, but in some cases it is necessary.
[00:39] <tobias_little> i can change it more than 1024 x 768
[00:40] <wedgie> marin_: OR, ssh as a non-root user, and use sudo
[00:47] <marin_> okay I will try that wedgie
[00:47] <marin_> oh I see the first part of your question
[00:48] <wedgie> marin_: before you go any further, what's your ultimate goal here?
[00:48] <marin_> I guess I didn't explain further
 I'm attempting to upgrade a Ghost blog installation on a SmartOS machine hosted w/ Joyent
[00:49] <marin_> I've generated SSH keys and imported them succesfully, but they don't seem to work
[00:50] <wedgie> marin_: ok, cold be a couple reasons: 1. the sshd on the other side doesn't allow root to log in via ssh. I'm not very familiar with smartos but typically the config is somewhere like /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:51] <wedgie> 2. The pub key wasn't put in the right place or the permissions are wrong. How did you copy the pubkey to the smartos machine?
[00:52] <marin_> using the GUI offered by joyent
[00:53] <wedgie> marin_: can you pastebing the output of: ssh -v root@the.ip.address       (sanitize the ip address, if necessary)
[00:55] <marin_> http://pastebin.com/HkQRn8Yz
[00:56] <MenzieIsFixingTh> Hey, what's the new package name for the 16.10 LTS kernel stack?
[00:56] <MenzieIsFixingTh> I forgot what it was
[00:58] <wedgie> marin_: looks like it's not accepting the key. Make sure you gave it the right public key in the joyent gui. Unfortunately, beyond that it isn't really an ubuntu question. May be best to take it up with joyent support if you continue to have trouble
[00:59] <MenzieFixes> That was poorly worded; I meant the LTS kernel stack "yakkety" for 16.04 LTS :P
[01:00] <marin_> ok thank you!
[01:01] <Bashing-om> !hwe | MenzieFixes
[01:01] <MenzieFixes> Thanks Bashing-om
[01:10] <Dwickie> Is there anyone available to help me with an SSL certification authentication issue I am having?
[01:12] <qwebirc737> Is there anyone on here?
[01:19] <tgm4883> !ask | Dwickie
[01:19] <tgm4883> qwebirc737: ^
[01:20] <L0rdLaravel> !patience
[01:24] <Dwickie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/879628/ssl-certificate-issues-521-524?noredirect=1#comment1369281_879628
[01:25] <Dwickie> That has all of the information of my question in an easy to read/understand form.
[01:25] <puchogenzo> hi guys
[01:26] <tubal> So... Software Updater. It's icon appears in the launcher, but doesn't respond to a left-click. It has a right-click menu that includes 'Install All Available Updates'. That can't be its default behaviour, is it?
[01:26] <tubal> btw, I'm quite comfortable with apt-get. I'd just like to know how the GUI approach should work.
[01:27] <wedgie> Dwickie: is that the whole file? Have you enabled SSL? Have you created a virtual host listening on port 443?
[01:29] <gambl0re> helo
[01:29] <gambl0re> ?
[01:29] <wedgie> Dwickie: the error log seems to be complaining about the format of your cert file
[01:29] <tubal> !patience
[01:29] <Dwickie> Okay, is it the file extension format, or the syntax?
[01:29] <tgm4883> Dwickie: the contents of the file possibly?
[01:29] <wedgie> Dwickie: not really sure. You might be better off in #httpd
[01:30] <Dwickie> Okay, thanks you for help regardless!
[01:30] <wedgie> not likely to be the name of the file, though. The contents
[01:30] <tgm4883> Dwickie: It says it's expecting to see "trusted certificate" which makes me think you have a binary file
[01:31] <Dwickie> Hmm... I have a trusted certificates from NameCheap...
[01:31] <tgm4883> Dwickie: no, I mean. If you open the file can you read what it says at the top?
[01:31] <Dwickie> Yes, I can read the entire thing.
[01:32] <Dwickie> http://pastebin.com/mZJwXatr
[01:32] <tgm4883> Dwickie: well surely not the entire thing right?
[01:32] <Dwickie> That's it of my crt...
[01:32] <Dwickie> I do have the key file
[01:32] <tgm4883> Dwickie: that's what is in your .crt  file?
[01:32] <Dwickie> Yes,
[01:33] <tgm4883> Dwickie: that's a log you just posted....
[01:33] <Dwickie> oh shoot wrong one...
[01:33] <wedgie> hopefully that's not what's in his cert :P
[01:33] <Dwickie> lmfao
[01:33] <tgm4883> wedgie: lol, that would be not so good :)
[01:33] <Dwickie> sorry here it is: http://prntscr.com/e48ug9
[01:33] <tgm4883> Dwickie: that's not your certificate
[01:33] <wedgie> that's a csr
[01:34] <tgm4883> Dwickie: that's your certificate request
[01:34] <Dwickie> Oh damn, then I did something wrong...
[01:34] <tgm4883> Dwickie: yea, you need to get the .crt from namecheap
[01:34] <wedgie> Dwickie: that is the file you submit to namecheap to get them to sign your cert. Then they send you back the certificate
[01:34] <tgm4883> Dwickie: first line should be "-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----"
[01:35] <Dwickie> Okay, that would explain it. Thank you I'll be back with an update.
[01:35] <tgm4883> Dwickie: Also, your CRT isn't private
[01:35] <wedgie> yes, please don't pastebin the key :P
[01:36] <tgm4883> yea, pastebinning the key would mean it's time to get a new key
[01:36] <Dwickie> I never pastebinned it.
[01:36] <Dwickie> I prntscrned it and blocked out a huge chunk.
[01:36] <Dwickie> I just copied the wrong link earlier. :P
[01:36] <tgm4883> Dwickie: yea, we were just saying that info isn't private info. The .key file however is
[01:36] <wedgie> Dwickie: doesn't matter because that wasn't your key anyway
[01:37] <Dwickie> Oh, yes. too many certificate file names for me to keep them straight.
[01:37] <Dwickie> I have never opened my key file.
[01:37] <tgm4883> Dwickie: FWIW, your key file should start with "-----BEGIN PRIVATE KEY-----"
[01:38] <Dwickie> tgm4883 checks out. It began like that.
[01:39] <tgm4883> Dwickie: ok, so then just grab the actual crt file and overwrite the wrong one and try restarting apache
[01:39] <Dwickie> Will do. be back in a few.
[01:40] <enlightenmepls> Hi folks. I need some help. I have a special XLR microphone which is connected to a Focusrite Scarlett Solo which is connected to my computer with a serial usb. Unfortuanately, I cannot get the microphone to work. When I rightclick the sound icon on the toolbar and click Sound Settings, nothing happens. Can someone help me out with this?
[01:40] <enlightenmepls> I was reading up on something called pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Are these something I need to install to get the microphone to work?
[01:40] <enlightenmepls> Or can it work right out of the box?
[01:42] <tgm4883> enlightenmepls: not sure about that device, but pavucontrol does have better control than the default stuff. For microphones though I don't see it giving you much more control than you have with the standard stuff.
[01:43] <enlightenmepls> Is there a way I can open up the sound settings without using the icon on the tool bar?
[01:43] <enlightenmepls> I cannot even get it open using the icon.
[01:43] <tgm4883> enlightenmepls: there's likely a "sound" option in the control center
[01:46] <tubal> enlightenmepls: Press the windows key, then type System Settings in the entry field.
[01:48] <enlightenmepls> Alright, many thanks.
[01:48] <enlightenmepls> I got it to work.
[01:51] <Dwickie> Fixed it.
[01:51] <Dwickie> Thank you guys very much. I just seem to have an issue with my html now...
[01:51] <wedgie> Dwickie: now test it out with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
[01:51] <causative> is there a way to run System Test for only the tests that don't require user interaction?
[01:52] <Dwickie> On the http:// it displays perfectly normal however it https:// the CSS doesn't seem to be working well.
[01:52] <Dwickie> I also have to enable an auto-redirect to the https.
[01:53] <george_> drudge17
[01:54] <causative> or a list of which tests require user interaction?
[01:54] <Dwickie> wedgie Thank you. As across the board.
[01:55] <wedgie> Dwickie: nicely done
[01:55] <Dwickie> I don't mean to be impatient, but does anyone know why when i go to https:// the CSS on my website seems to be not working well.
[01:59] <tgm4883> Dwickie: you'll probably need to give a little more detail and pastebin your whole site conf file
[01:59] <wedgie> Dwickie: "Blocked loading mixed active content “http://mclist.co/template/css/custom.css”
[01:59] <dax> probably because you're including it as HTTP and your browse... yup
[01:59] <wedgie> trying to pull in stuff using HTTP from an HTTPS page
[02:00] <dax> the URL in your link attribute should either be relative or use HTTPS
[02:00] <dax> link element*
[02:00] <tgm4883> yep
[02:00] <Dwickie> Oh okay, so all of the links need to be changed?
[02:00] <Dwickie> (just trying to verify what you're saying)
[02:00] <adamg> okay why is gnome-keyring-daemon taking 2.3gb of resident memory
[02:01] <wedgie> Dwickie: as an aside, looking at the web console in your browser is a good way to troubleshoot some of that kind of thing
[02:01] <dax> oh nvm i see why
[02:01] <dax> Dwickie: <base href="http://mclist.co/">
[02:01] <adamg> (I am running a bunch of SSHs in a loop, continuously,but I don't remember this happeneing)
[02:01] <dax> Dwickie: dunno why that's there, but it should be https, not http
[02:01] <adamg> 16.04,.
[02:01] <dax> (it's also rather pointless)
[02:01] <Dwickie> Okay, I will have to fix all of that. Thank you for all of your help. I will get going on all of that.
[02:02] <Dwickie> Dax: I should remove that base part?
[02:02] <dax> it's unnecessary and is what's breaking things, so yes :)
[02:02] <Dwickie> Haha, sure thing. Thank Dax and others.
[02:02] <dax> if you can't remove it for whatever reason, switching the http bit in it to https should work
[02:06] <jacks_> hi, i have a toddler who keeps ejecting the dvd drive, i've tried locking it with cdctl -o1 and eject -i on but it still ejects the proc info suggests it can be locked/disabled is there any other way of doing it short of pulling the power
[02:07] <jacks_> can i somehow mask that interrupt or something
[02:07] <Dwickie> Just removing the <base> fixed it, thanks Dax.
[02:08] <gambl0re> how do i improve performacnce with ubuntu running inside virtualbox
[02:09] <jacks_> if it helps ioctl returns 0
[02:09] <gambl0re> what?
[02:10] <jacks_> gambl0re, install the guest tools
[02:10] <gambl0re> i did
[02:11] <tgm4883> gambl0re: give more resources to the VM? Give less resources to the VM? You really didn't give us many details to go on here
[02:12] <gambl0re> what details would you like to know
[02:12] <jacks_> have you installed preload, modified vm.swapiness , even got a swap partition
[02:12] <tgm4883> (eg. what do you mean by performance? What are you trying to do in the VM that has bad performance? What hardware did you give the VM? What hardware does your host have? What does the CPU/RAM usage look like on the HOST/VM?)
[02:19] <waltman> Anyone know if there's been a problem with ubuntu forums? I posted this 2 days ago and it seems odd that it's only had 1 view. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2351181
[02:20] <waltman> Of course I'm also still very interested in the questions I asked there. :)
[02:22] <chilifinger> I'm having an issue with file permissions reverting back from what i manually set them to, i tried using auditd to see what was causing the change and its only showing the changes i make manually and not showing where the new change is coming from. Any ideas?
[02:24] <zykotick9> chilifinger: is this file permissions on a regular file?  on ext4 filesystem?
[02:24] <chilifinger> yes, regular file on ext4.
[02:25] <chilifinger> folder with video files, ran chmod -R 777 /dir after a few minutes files start reverting back to their previous permissions.
[02:27] <wedgie> chilifinger: maybe put together something with inotify to see what is messing with the files
[02:36] <tatertots> chilifinger: does the symptom occur with files in "other" folders?
[02:36] <Npco> any good iso builders?
[02:38] <chilifinger> tatertots: it happens only in the folder containing my videos. if i run chmod -r 777 on my video folder all the permissions for each folder inside and videos get changed to 0777, after a few minutes certain files revert back
[02:40] <tatertots> chilifinger: is it consistently the same files changing?
[02:42] <tekeli-li> tatertots, may i eat you?
[02:42] <chilifinger> tatertots: yes
[02:43]  * tekeli-li salivates
[02:45] <tatertots> chilifinger: what do those files have in common?
[02:46] <chilifinger> they're all video, thats about it.
[02:46] <tatertots> chilifinger: oh really?
[02:46] <wedgie> chilifinger: have any sort of software that you use to manage it your videos? Maybe it's doing something
[02:47] <obsessive_RPer> tatertots
[02:47] <obsessive_RPer> are pretty good
[02:47] <chilifinger> ive already disabled about everything thats running on the system.
[02:47] <velus> hello all i hope someone is awake, i have installed ubuntu on my spare hdd, so i can swap drives when i need to, but when i try to load ubuntu it gets past the first screen (generally a blank purple screen) then get to the blinking curser but stick on that, i have even had that on that for over an hour but dosent move
[02:47] <obsessive_RPer> but did you know the brown stuff on potatos is poison
[02:47] <velus> can i get some help with this please?
[02:47] <tatertots> chilifinger: are you sure you are looking with a detailed enough lens?....video on a pc can be .avi .mp4 .mpg .m2ts
[02:48] <tatertots> chilifinger: are you insinuating they are all of the exact same file type AND extension??
[02:48] <chilifinger> all are mkv, not sure why that would make a difference
[02:49] <tatertots> chilifinger: are there mkv files that are "not" effected by this symptom?
[02:50] <chilifinger> yeah, there are. its only the more recent files that are causing the problems.
[02:50] <tgm4883> chilifinger: sharing this with any other PCs over the network? Are these sitting on other network attached storage? What permissions are the files changing to?
[02:50] <CarlFK> velus: reboot, hold the shift key down.  this should bring up the grub menu
[02:50] <causative> the brown stuff on potatos?  you mean the peel?
[02:50] <tatertots> hi obsessive_RPer
[02:51] <velus> tried that and gone in to recover mode same thing
[02:51] <CarlFK> velus: doe you see "loading kernel..."  ?
[02:51] <velus> no just a blinking curser
[02:52] <tatertots> chilifinger: is it possible the files are in use (by another application) while you are observing permissions change?
[02:52] <chilifinger> tgm4883: files are downloaded from another server of mine with seperate file permissions, when i change them on my end they revert to the permissions from when i pulled the file
[02:53] <tgm4883> chilifinger: any errors in syslog when you change the file permission?
[02:53] <wedgie> chilifinger: do you have an rsync job or something that pulls them?
[02:53] <chilifinger> i do, but its disabled
[02:54] <chilifinger> and the videos aren't in the directory that is monitored
[02:55] <tgm4883> chilifinger: do the permissions still change if you 'chattr +i filename'
[02:58] <CarlFK> velus: grub menu, find recovery, hit e for edit, find the word nomodtest, add "nosplash" after it
[02:58] <velus> ok then i am guessing a restart
[02:58] <chilifinger> tgm4883, syslog isnt showing any problems
[03:01] <causative> why is it that Checkbox (system testing) is asking me for a password, but not using the standard permissions popup?  should I be concerned?
[03:02] <causative> also I tried entering an incorrect password and it proceeded... although perhaps it would have failed some test later due to that
[03:03] <causative> I'm concerned that the program might be storing my pw, because it's not using the standard popup
[03:04] <chilifinger> tgm4883, give me a few moments to verify. it usually changes within a couple of minutes
[03:04] <RNeville> Hello, just installed a Nvidia Gefore GTX 760 graphics card; total newbie to graphic cards, running Ubuntu 16.04; how should I installed driver for this card?
[03:04] <colcha> Hello guys, I can't install the build essential package!
[03:05] <RNeville> please
[03:05] <tgm4883> RNeville: use the built in driver manager
[03:05] <tgm4883> !details | colcha
[03:05] <RNeville> tgm4883, not sure what "Driver Manager" is and where to look for it under Ubuntu 16.04
[03:06] <colcha> APT doesn't let me install the package build-essential, it drops the following: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:06] <tgm4883> RNeville: search for 'driver' in the dash, I think it will pop up as a result
[03:06] <tgm4883> RNeville: I run mate now, so IDK what it's called
[03:06] <colcha> I've already tried apt-get clean, and dpkg --configure -a. It does not solve the issue.
[03:06] <kang0> Anyone comes from Windows?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Also ^ What was the old card ? Consider purging the old driver prior to installing a new driver .
[03:06] <colcha>  luckily, the aptitude shows a litlle more info. It says: libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (=2.23-0ubuntu3) but is installed 2.23-0ubuntu5
[03:07] <RNeville> Was running integrated on board AMD graphics - first video card, ever, for me
[03:07] <tgm4883> colcha: what version of ubuntu?
[03:07] <colcha> tgm4883: 16.04 Xenial
[03:08] <tgm4883> colcha: did you try 'apt update' ?
[03:08] <colcha> yes, I've tried apt-get update, apt-get install -f, dpkg --configure -a, and so on...
[03:08] <JC_Yang> hi, all, I've got a usb touchscreen and the built-in driver works with it, but the calibration done with xinput_calibrator is not correct, where I touch invoke something elsewhere. How to get the calibration done correctly?
[03:09] <tgm4883> colcha: can you pastebin the output of  'apt policy libc6-dev'
[03:09] <chilifinger> tgm4883: setting the file to immutable keeps it from chaning permission.
[03:09] <colcha> apt-cache policy tells me something interesting:  (line 1) *** 2.23-0ubuntu5 100
[03:09] <colcha>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status     (line 2) 2.23-0ubuntu3 500
[03:09] <colcha>         500 http://ubuntu.mirrors.pair.com/archive xenial/main amd64 Packages
[03:10] <colcha> tgm4883: sorry, thats the apt-cache policy from libc6.
[03:10] <tgm4883> colcha: you either don't have the updates repo enabled anymore, or your mirror is broken
[03:12] <colcha> tgm4883: mmm... how do I solve that? when I do apt update, it looks fine to me. Does not give me a warning or something
[03:12] <Bashing-om> !info libc6 xenial
[03:13] <colcha> tgm4883: apt policy libc6-dev drops the following: 2.23-0ubuntu3 500
[03:13] <colcha>         500 http://ubuntu.mirrors.pair.com/archive xenial/main amd64 Packages
[03:14] <RNeville> Bashing-om , Should I used X.org driver or Nvidia binary driver, and if so,  which one: "one marked tested"?
[03:14] <tgm4883> colcha: can you pastebin the output of 'apt update'
[03:14] <tgm4883> !pastebin | colcha
[03:16] <velus> done that CarlFK nothing but i went in to commandline in grub and put in intrid and i got alloc magic broken at then a hex location but i dont rember the exact location?
[03:16] <RNeville> Bashing-om, Of course, I do want to get the best performance out of this new video card
[03:16] <Bashing-om> RNeville: I run with the X.org driver just fine . Try it and see  how it performs for your use case ( not gaming !) .
[03:16] <RNeville> I'm want to run Lightworks, NLE
[03:17] <RNeville> Not a gamer, at all
[03:17] <colcha> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23922642/
[03:18] <colcha> tgm4883: the rest its ok... did not paste it, because its in another language...
[03:18] <Bashing-om> RNeville: The open source driver does so well for me I gave not even considered to install the proprietary driver .
[03:18] <RNeville> I think I'm already running the X.org driver, I installed this card, and Ubuntu came up and running using this new video cards HDMI interface
[03:19] <Bashing-om> RNeville: ' sudo lshw -C display ' . see what the driver is in the configuration line .
[03:20] <tgm4883> colcha: yea you're mirror is out of date
[03:20] <tgm4883> colcha: you'll need to switch to another mirror or wait for them to sync
[03:20] <RNeville> Bashing-om, just launced Lightworks and got this message http://pastebin.com/veaGsBMS
[03:21] <tgm4883> colcha: but considering that package version came out in Nov-2016, I would say it's better if you switch
[03:21] <tgm4883> colcha: so you'll need to open software sources and select a different mirror to use
[03:22] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Well looks like proprietary may be the way to go for you .. but wont hurt to see what the performance is like with nouveau .
[03:22] <RNeville> k, Bashing-om
[03:22] <hiexpo> better if you posted the whole terminal might get you fixed faster
[03:23] <hiexpo> @ RNeville
[03:23] <colcha> tgm4883: but how do I know if the new repo its synced or not?
[03:24] <colcha> tgm4883: the new mirror I mean...
[03:24] <tgm4883> colcha: test it? Or look in the repo first and see if it's there
[03:24] <hiexpo> RNeville, propri drivers are sometimes better
[03:25] <RNeville> thx hiexpo
[03:25] <hiexpo> RNeville, I use them always
[03:26] <RNeville> what is "@ RNeville" please , hiexpo
[03:26] <hiexpo> RNeville, just meant read up
[03:26] <RNeville> ok, hiexpo
[03:26] <Bashing-om> RNeville: when ya get to the point to try the proprietary driver, eun : ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' as the terminal way .
[03:27] <RNeville> ok, Bashing-om
[03:27] <Bashing-om> run/eun*
[03:27] <colcha> tgm4883: ok, I'll try, thanks for the help bro!
[03:28] <RNeville> will, these last commands install proprietary drivers, Bashing-om
[03:29] <RNeville> if I want to paste from command directly to pastebin , what is command please ?
[03:29] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Yeah .. the system will install what it thinks best . no sweat . I bet the choice is 367 version .
[03:30] <RNeville> command line /command*
[03:30] <Bashing-om> RNeville: The paste command pastebinit < command_string .
[03:31] <RNeville> thx, Bashing-om
[03:32] <RNeville> Bashing-om , when I run  sudo lshw -C display this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23922713/
[03:34] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Yepper; running the open source driver " driver=nouveau " .
[03:34] <RNeville> thx, Bashing-om
[03:35] <Bashing-om> RNeville: How does Lightworks perform with nouveau as the driver ?
[03:36] <Guest20248> just trying to figure this out
[03:37] <RNeville> Haven't tried it Bashing-om , but will here shortly (before I move to proprietary Nvidia driver)
[03:37] <Bashing-om> RNeville: K :)
[03:41] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I launced Lightworks, and it seems to run - but don't have my media files online, as yet, so I might not be able to try it out tonight
[03:42] <RNeville> However, will wait to switch to Nvdia proprietary drivers so I can determine quality of native linux driver, with Lightworks
[03:46] <Bashing-om> RNeville: That s the way to do it . test and see , many times in many applications you find that open source does the better ,
[03:46] <RNeville> thanks for this advice Bashing-om
[03:47] <RNeville> Lightwork does seem much more responsive , now that I have a video card installed
[03:48] <RNeville> Again, lightworks does launch and controls seems to work fine - again, just no media to properly check out Lightworks completely
[03:49] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Happy2help .
[03:49] <flatstuff> the lightworks site recommends that you install propreitery card drivers before installing lightworks
[03:56] <Ven0m> This sucks
[03:56] <jayscandi> yes
[03:57] <Ven0m> Is there a way to get rid of molded brains inside your head?
[03:57] <sachin> Hey Guys ! I am gonna buy a laptop today(core i3 processor) . What model would you guys suggest?
[03:58] <Ven0m> I have multiple brains molded in my head. they used me to flee since they were fugitives
[03:58] <Ven0m> now they just cause problems all day long
[03:59] <Ven0m> I wish i was crazy and this was just part of my illness, but unfortunately its REAL and i have no clue what to do
[03:59] <ParaplegicRaceho> sachin, I have been happy with my Lenovo's but it all depends on what your use-case is
[04:00] <Ven0m> MRI won't detect them
[04:00] <Ven0m> I'm running out of options
[04:00] <ParaplegicRaceho> Technical drivers question. Anybody around to answer?
[04:03] <ParaplegicRaceho> My render box is using my integrated graphics for display and four AMD GPUs for math coprocessing. I want to add more GPUs. Can I use my USB 3 ports via USB pcie x16 powered risers?
[04:13] <fishcooker> we have full disk usage issue how to purge the package safely using apt or even dpkg http://vpaste.net/bzKoi because when do apt-get install -f or even $ apt-get autoremove it complain about the full disk http://vpaste.net/IdV9V
[04:15] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: show ' df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in pastebins .
[04:28] <fishcooker> sorry it takes time Bashing-om i don't have pastebinits installed http://vpaste.net/dNjVl
[04:32] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: Out of inodes " 989296 957223  32073   97% / " lets see what dpkg can do with removing old kernels . Going to go smoke on it . back soonest .
[04:34] <fishcooker> i think dpkg --remove should be fine for the old kernel
[04:35] <fishcooker> this is because we do kernel upgrade automatically without remove the old one
[04:37] <wom12> Hey, is anyone good with Virtualbox or VMWare?
[04:37] <wom12> Assuming anyone is on XD
[04:43] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: Let take a poke at it ' sudo dpkg -P linux-{headers,image}-3.13.0-{95,96}-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-{95,96} ' . See how this flys  then see what we can do else .
[04:43] <wom12> Hello, is anyoen familiar with VMWare or Virtualbox?
[04:43] <wom12> Idk if this is the right place but it seems like the only place and ive been working on this issue for a week
[04:44] <wom12> guess nothing?
[04:45] <Bashing-om> wom12: many here are - not me. ask your question .
[04:46] <wom12> My host is Windows 10. I have an Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop VM and a Windows 10 VM. My goal is to let Windows 10 VM connect to the Ubuntu VM and share internet connections
[04:46] <wom12> So Windows 10 VM would have to pass through Ubuntu VM. They are both on the same internal network while the Ubuntu VM is also bridged
[04:46] <wom12> Im trying every combination on making them see each other from setting manual IP's to DHCP
[04:46] <wom12> Nothing works
[04:47] <wom12> Any idea?
[04:51] <Barones> Hi community, I'm having a issue that didn't find any solution, suddenly my asus laptop battery span greatly decreased
[04:51] <Barones> I have no clue why
[04:51] <Barones> before I reinstall a new OS, I would like to try to fix it and learn through it
[04:53] <tatertots> Barones: are you using the least power consumption gpu if you have multiple gpu's?
[04:57] <Barones> tatertots, yes, I'm using Prime to switch between gpu's
[04:57] <Barones> tatertots, and now I'm using the nvidia gpu
[05:09] <Freeder> I'd like to set up a virtual interface to pull an ipv6 address from my ISP... can anyone assist me in starting out?
[05:10] <nomic> a 'virtual interface'  consists of what
[05:10] <nomic> a program?
[05:10] <Freeder> eth0:0
[05:11] <Freeder> network interface
[05:11] <nomic> isn tthere a #networking
[05:11] <nomic> or ask on forum  = ubuntu forum .. is efficient to leave a forum message
[05:12] <jmynk2536> can users see other users browsing history?
[05:15] <tripelb>  Hi, I want to mirror and control my phone through my laptop. Screen, keyboard, touchpad. Android marshmallow. Ub 14.04 ATM.
[05:15] <jmynk2536> use android side sync
[05:16] <tripelb> #android-dev were unhelpful,dismissive,mocking folks.
[05:16] <jmynk2536> its free and avalible for linux
[05:17] <tripelb> jmynk2536: android side sync. What does it run in? Phone or Ubuntu?
[05:17] <tripelb> Nomic ask in #freenode
[05:18] <tripelb> jmynk2536 nope
[06:11] <delinquentme> Why would a PID change?
[06:11] <delinquentme> is the common ... ?
[06:36] <teegee> Hey, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here: # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 57153 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.21
[06:36] <teegee> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
[06:37] <teegee> iptables -t nat -L PREROUTING works, so it must be the match
[06:37] <nomic> x..x.
[06:42] <phoen1x> interesting'
[06:42] <phoen1x> this is kind a chatting room ?
[07:16] <gowhari> #cocoa-init
[07:34] <Le_Thug> gfvtyfcvbuyihy
[07:34] <Le_Thug> *
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Le_Thug: can we help you?
[07:36] <JC_Yang> anybody experienced with xinput_calibrator?  it simply can not calibrate my touchscreen correctly
[07:37] <JC_Yang> and from the man page, I can't find useful hints to tackle my problem
[07:40] <oles> hello, why lib64ncurses5-dev beeing a 64 bit package depends on i386 binaries?
[07:40] <oles> lib64ncurses5-dev:i386          - developer's libraries for ncurses (64-bit)
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> JC_Yang: can this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[07:46] <wesalius> hi guys, I am trying to perform a fresh install of ubuntu. Right now I am in a live cd, I see both my 30 Gb SSD and 500 Gb HD. When I try to run the installation, none of those are available
[07:46] <wesalius> any advices on how to make the HD "visible" to the installer?
[07:48] <oles> wesalius, are they unmounted at the installation moment?
[07:48] <JC_Yang> lotuspsychje: I've done calibration with xinput_calibrator, but the result are not correct, where ever I touched reach some where else
[07:49] <wesalius> oles: yes, I unmounted them.
[07:49] <wesalius> I checked now
[07:49] <wesalius> fdisk sees them too
[07:52] <oles> wesalius, so you see empty window in the installer's partitions suggestion menu?
[07:52] <wesalius> yes
[07:52] <wesalius> I just went ahead and formatted the disk to see if that helps
[07:52] <FMan> hi
[07:52] <Tahr-Poop> wesalius, pastebin the output of : sudo parted -l
[07:54] <Tahr-Poop> wesalius, ensure that AHCI mode is enabled in BIOS
[07:54] <wesalius> Tahr-Poop: http://pastebin.com/bZMGea3j
[07:56] <wesalius> the installer looks like this
[07:56] <wesalius> https://snag.gy/bzLaGE.jpg
[07:58] <Tahr-Poop> wesalius, what happens when you click on click on plus button
[07:59] <wesalius> before it exited with error, now when I tried, it just fails (dissapears without anything)
[08:01] <wesalius> and now the SSD i tried to format dissapeared for good
[08:01] <wesalius>  sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[08:02] <wesalius> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory.
[08:02] <wesalius> I might want to fix that GPT right?
[08:03] <Tahr-Poop> wesalius, convert to GPT only if your computer supports (U)EFI mode
[08:04] <wesalius> Tahr-Poop: ha, I wrote a new partition table using gparted to the disk, now it appeared
[08:05] <wesalius> lets see if the installation goes through
[08:06] <Tahr-Poop> wesalius, do same thing with /dev/sdb
[08:06] <wesalius> Tahr-Poop: no, /dev/sdb contains my data and is readable ok
[08:06] <wesalius> from the file manager
[08:06] <wesalius> I can browse np
[08:06] <Tahr-Poop> ok
[08:07] <wesalius> seems its solved
[08:07] <wesalius> :-)
[08:07] <wesalius> installation is proceeding
[08:08] <wesalius> I havent used ubuntu in like 6+ years. Have been running Arch, I am curious how far did you guys get :-)
[08:08] <wesalius> Tahr-Poop: anyway, thanks for responding :-)
[08:09] <glache> hi
[08:29] <willemb_> after an aptitude upgrade, my nvidia drivers seem to be stuffed.
[08:30] <willemb_> geforce 610 on ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS01
[08:30] <willemb_> xorg.0.log says 00~Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)01~
[08:31] <willemb_> i tried the 304 and the 378 drivers
[08:31] <bharat> how to install ubuntu alongisde win10?
[08:32] <willemb_> aha! just found that bumblebee is blacklisting my drivers
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | bharat
[08:32] <bharat> its not working
[08:32] <bharat> in boot menu its not decting my current os
[08:34] <bharat> hello
[08:34] <Tahr-Poop> bharat, boot menu of linux or windows?
[08:34] <bharat> windows
[08:35] <willemb_> !nvidia |bharat
 i'm using win10
[08:37] <bharat> which version will run in my lap? imusing lenovo B590
[08:40] <Tahr-Poop> bharat, boot into live ubuntu and pastebin the output: sudo parted -l
 yes i did
[08:42] <Tahr-Poop> bharat, where is the pastebin URL/link?
[08:42] <kang0> Recovery image don't have boot information?
[08:42] <bharat> which version will run in my lap? imusing lenovo B590
[08:42] <kang0> What is boot info?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> bharat, stop
[08:42] <bharat> wait 1 mins i will send
what?
[08:44] <glache> How can I change the 'quick flash of the default login screen' that I see right before my new login screen shows?  It kind of flashed the old one for a second.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> bharat, Tahr-Poop has asked you more than once for information.  you did not answer his question, you repeated your question.  ignoring questions from people trying to help is not right.
[08:46] <glache> )*;
i don't know how to boot into live ubuntu and pastebin the output: sudo parted -1
[08:48] <cfhowlett> bharat, do you have an ubuntu USB?
 nope i have ubuntu CD
[08:49] <cfhowlett> bharat, OK, boot from the CD
 i did
[08:51] <cfhowlett> bharat, open a terminal
[08:51] <bharat> how?
[08:52] <bharat> its asking try ubuntu or install ubuntu
[08:52] <cfhowlett> TRY ubuntu
[08:52] <bharat> i clcked on install ubuntu
[08:52] <Tahr-Poop> bharat, press ctrl+alt+t
 key
[08:52] <bharat> ok <tahr - Poop>
[08:54] <spanca> hello everyone, is there a command to bulk edit pdf metadata? I tried exiftool but it doesnt work on pdfs
[08:55] <johnny_|_> Hi. I am using ubuntu 17.04 live persistent usb. I accidentaly deleted my sources.list. Now I am not sure which is the correct location that holds original file. is it  /rofs/etc/apt/sources.list or /rofs/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list? (the latter one also has deb-src entries).
 are we connected?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> johnny_|_, ask #ubuntu+1
[08:55] <cfhowlett> bharat, I see you
[08:55] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, try pdfinfo/pdftk/PDFMtEd
[08:55] <spanca> cd ..
[08:55] <spanca> haha
[08:56] <bharat> in terminal what i have to type?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> bharat, sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[08:56] <bharat> ok
[08:56] <bharat> wait 1 min
[08:56] <spanca> Tahr-Poop, I found pdftk, too, but couldnt make it work
[08:57] <spanca> or, rather, the right command to make it work
[08:59] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, pdftk foo.pdf dump_data output metadata.txt
[08:59] <spanca> oh thank you, Tahr-Poop!
[09:00] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, after editing metadata.txt run > pdftk foo.pdf update_info metadata.txt output foo_updated.pdf
[09:00] <spanca> Tahr-Poop, thank you very much!
[09:01] <donavan01> I just downloaded ubuntu mate and im trying to get the wifi working and unfortunately I dont have access to the internet to get apt-get to work but I found a tar.gz file with the drivers from broadcom but there are no instructions that I find all that is in the file is a lib and scr folder and a makefile any suggestion my linux skills are pretty basic
[09:01] <spanca> Tahr-Poop, I presume I can replace the filename with * in order to batch edit?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> donavan01, please read      /msg ubottu broadcom
[09:03] <boboliu> donavan01, why not just try "./configure&&make&&make install"
[09:03] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, aye
[09:03] <donavan01> than
[09:05] <donavan01> sorry that should have been thanks\
[09:07] <donavan01> boboliu ... can you expound on that a little
[09:08] <lancey> t
[09:13] <alan__> tets
[09:14] <boboliu> donacan01, it's common way to install asource code pack. in usual,developer have prepared everything in a script. you just need run "./configure". make will complie and make install will install them to true directory.
[09:14] <OerHeks> !build
[09:14] <WechKep> sitting on the toilet
[09:15] <WechKep> my ass is a blast
[09:15] <WechKep> fire smelling diarrhea
[09:15] <WechKep> out of my ass
[09:15] <cfhowlett> WechKep, stop it
[09:15] <WechKep> no fucking paper
[09:15] <cfhowlett> !ops | WechKep
[09:15] <WechKep> hey baby lick my ass till your face turns blue!
[09:16] <WechKep> You're finished rimmin' me and you want some more
[09:16] <WechKep> Ya say ya don't flush but your out the door
[09:16] <WechKep> I'm back in the...with a cup
[09:16] <WechKep> Scoop it outta the toilet 'cause you wanna slurp it up
[09:16] <alan__> how to gila?
[09:22] <spanca> Tahr-Poop, but exiftool and calibre still show the old metadata on foo_updated.pdf
[09:22] <spanca> even thought metadata.txt is the newer version
[09:22] <spanca> though*
[09:24] <donavan01> Thanks for the help I have some more reading to do but thanks for getting me headed in the right direction
[09:28] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?s=8a272a6f06fc69569e58e52711ca1925&p=432875&postcount=5
[09:34] <spanca> Tahr-Poop, does it mean that the new metadata will be shown after it is saved again?
[09:35] <Snardbafulator> Just...
[09:35] <Snardbafulator> Just ate a burger at the sleazy joint
[09:35] <Snardbafulator> Now I gotta take a shit, get to the point
[09:35] <Snardbafulator> Sittin' on the toilet, my ass is a blast
[09:35] <Snardbafulator> Runnin' smelly diarrhea outta my ass
[09:35] <spanca> I dont get this. after all the progress in editing file, data etc. metadata is still like a holy grail
[09:36] <spanca> wrestling with the heck for over half an hour
[09:42] <spanca> I am getting this error when cloning git: '/info/refs not valid: is this a git repository?' can you please tell me what the error is here?
[09:42] <rokon> hello room
[09:44] <OerHeks> spanca, maybe that repository is created in the Mercurial DVCS format instead of Git
[09:46] <spanca> OerHeks, I cant see it on the package's page. but when I try install via download, and run the .sh install command, I get this; https://paste.ubuntu.com/23924233/
[09:48] <OerHeks> spanca, so that script checks but does not create /usr/local/share/applications
[09:48] <OerHeks> contact the writer?
[09:48] <rokon> can any one help , ubuntu running on mac host , running opererp-server localhost but i want it from ip , that i can see from ssh mac host
[09:49] <spanca> so how can I edit pdf metadata?
[09:50] <spanca> pdftk doesnt change nothing
[09:50] <rokon> spanca is that for me
[09:50] <spanca> rokon?
[09:50] <rokon> yes
[09:51] <spanca> no, it is not
[09:51] <rokon> :(
[09:51] <rokon> i am new ubuntu user
[09:51] <spanca> welcome :)
[09:52] <Speiros> Hi folks.
[09:52] <rokon> where i can get help
[09:53] <Speiros> What kind of help rokon?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> rokon, here.  be patient
[09:53] <rokon> :D
[09:53] <rokon> can any one help , ubuntu running on mac host , running opererp-server localhost but i want it from ip , that i can see from ssh mac host
[09:53] <cfhowlett> rokon, please read       /msg ubottu patient
[09:53] <cfhowlett> rokon, please read       /msg ubottu patience
[09:54] <spanca> in year 2017, there is a deep, well-kept secret in file management. that is called pdf metadata edit. it is sacred knowledge, which requires initiation. nowhere to be found on the net. same holds for other file formats except for images.
[09:54] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, have you tried calibre yet?
[09:54] <rokon>  /msg ubottu patience
[09:55] <cfhowlett> rokon, remove the spaces before /msg
[09:55] <Tahr-Poop> spanca, read 4th comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/783696
[10:03] <spanca> Tahr-Poop, yes, calibre does seem to convert pdf metadata, thank you!
[10:03] <royal_screwup21> I'm trying to install pandas, which is a python module, using pip, but to no avail. This is error showing up on the terminal: https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPprqLXV6uY Can someone give me a pointer as to how I should go about resolving this error?
[10:05] <spanca> I mean edit pdf metadata
[10:09] <ashish> 192.168.1.10
[10:10] <Tahr-Poop> royal_screwup21, fix permission of /home/linux/.cache/pip either by file manager or CLI chown command
[10:11] <Speiros> spanca I haven't found anywhere yet, but adobe acrobat might be the go.  It's not a free format, the PDF format.
[10:12] <Speiros> Sorry, not OS.
[10:14] <rokon> ok i making it simple , on virtualbox running ubuntu ,i have to network , i want to change localhost ip
[10:18] <rigo_> hi. it's 16.04.01 lts x64 up to date. on a laptop, the lid is closed and i use the display port. the signal goes through a receiver and from there to a tv. the thing is if i turn off the tv, the laptop turns off or hibernates. which i don't want to.. but don't want to disable the hibernate function completely
[10:20] <ppf> in a shell script, how do i best log the entire stdout/stderr to a file (without eating it up)
[10:22] <jatt>  >file 2>&1
[10:23] <ppf> jatt: i'm in the shell script already
[10:23] <ppf> plus, that also consumes the output (i.e., no terminal output)
[10:23] <ppf> i'd like tee-like behaviour instead
[10:24] <ppf> to clarify the "in the script" part: consider a running shell script, that's redirecting it's _own_ output
[10:26] <spanca> hello again :) exiftool shows the creator and producer of pdf file different from calibre does. the former's entries are 'writer' and 'LibreOffice 5.1.' respectively, whereas the latter just shows 'unknown'.
[10:28] <spanca> same for other file formats such as odt
[10:30] <slax> how to change ubuntu theme ?
[10:31] <rigo_> hi. it's 16.04.01 lts x64 up to date. on a laptop, the lid is closed and i use the display port. the signal goes through a receiver and from there to a tv. the thing is if i turn off the tv, the laptop turns off or hibernates. which i don't want to.. but don't want to disable the hibernate function completely
[10:32] <spanca> and not sure if calibre changes metadata. when I export the files from calibre to desktop folders, the metadata is shown the same as before in exiftool.
[10:35] <saiful> hi
[10:38] <Speiros> spanca workshare.com offers a trial, using their features to remove metadata from PDF, although I've not used it.  Being a trial, it would be limited to how many times you can use it I guess.
[10:38] <Speiros> spanca Still, Adobe Acrobat is the correct program it seems.
[10:40] <bharat> hi there
[10:40] <bharat> how to install ubuntu 12.04tls along side with win10
[10:41] <Speiros> bharat you could use a virtual machine.
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot | bharat start here
 how to install dualboot?
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> bharat  open this link ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?action=show&redirect=DualBoot%2FWindows
[10:42] <bharat> i tried but its not working
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> bharat  what's not working? what do you mean by 'not working'?
[10:44] <bharat> monkeydust its not showing install along side with windows
can you help me to install ubuntu?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> bharat  start from the beginning, what have you tried, what goes wrong etc
[10:47] <bharat> booted from CD
[10:47] <bharat> and clicked on install ubuntu
 its showing installation type
 are we connected?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !details | bharat
 its asking for installation type
[10:53] <bharat> i clicked on something else
 what details you want?
 are we connected?
[10:56] <ledeni> bharat, on first place why ubuntu 12.04 will be quick end of life
 i'musing Lenovo B590 for this lap ubuntu 14.04 will support?
[10:59] <bharat> anyone help
[10:59] <bharat> anyone help me
[11:01] <Tahr-Poop> !EOL | bharat
[11:01] <Speiros> bharat If you have the installation options, it means that you are starting the installation.  If  you choose to install to a hard drive, it will give you the option to choose the hard-drive.  If you do this, you won't be able to have both running at the same time though.  Also, you need to be sure you are not damaging your already-installed system.
[11:02] <bharat> <Tahr - Poop> how to create disk partation?
 are weconnected?
[11:05] <Speiros> bharat What are you looking to do?  Are you wanting to have a choice of which OS you open, or are you wanting to run both at the same time?
[11:05] <bharat> yes
 dual boot
[11:06] <Speiros> bharat So one OS at a time?
 Yes
[11:07] <Speiros> bharat Ok.
 ubuntu is not decting my current OS
[11:09] <Speiros> bharat You won't be able to edit your disk partition type, as Windows 10 is already installed, unless you have a secondary drive.  If there are other options, can somebody else interject?  I believe this is correct though.
 Yes i have secondary drive
[11:10] <Speiros> bharat Ah, excellent.
[11:10] <Speiros> bharat Are you prepared to format it?
[11:11] <eronis> hi
 yes
[11:11] <eronis> I'm a bit confused about ubuntu release support
[11:12] <ikonia> in what way confused ?
[11:12] <eronis> could you tell me why some packages have 3 years of support, some of them has 5 etc.
[11:12] <eronis> For example Xubuntu has 3 years of support
[11:12] <ikonia> xubuntu is a meta package
[11:12] <Speiros> bharat Ok.  So far, you have opened up your installation, and have seen the options to choose from, as far as a disk install, or to just use it from the disk, is this correct?
[11:12] <eronis> is it an obligation to use 3 years or can I use 5 years ?
[11:12] <eronis> What is meta ?
[11:12] <ikonia> eronis: the bottom line is an LTS release has 5 years of support,
[11:13] <ikonia> the official stance is that it has 5 years of server support and 3 years of desktop support
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[11:13] <ikonia> so if a package is a desktop package it will not be maintained post 3 years
[11:13] <ikonia> the realisty is that a lot of the server and desktop packages cross over
[11:14] <Speiros> bharat Ok.  If you are ready to install to a disk, choose that option, and it should guide you through the installation.  I have to leave in about 10 minutes though, but can help in these early stages.
[11:14] <eronis> Is it a security risk to have it more than 3 years as desktop os ?
[11:14] <eronis> Some distros do it you see
[11:14] <eronis> Linux Mint, Linux Lite
[11:14] <ikonia> no distros do it
[11:15] <eronis> So basically, I have 3 years of support for every release ?
[11:15] <ikonia> if a product has $X years of support, and you use it longer than $X years that is a risk as it will be unmaintined
[11:15] <eronis> And I have some unsupported packages even now on my 16.04 LTS
[11:15] <eronis> is it a risk ?
[11:15] <ikonia> eronis: no, you will have 3 years of support for the Desktop packages of an LTS release (only LTS) and 5 years of package support for a server release of an LTS version
[11:15] <eronis> To have them in my system ?
[11:16] <Speiros> bharat I mean, if you are ready to install to your hard drive.  If you do this, the option will come up so you can choose which hard drive to use.
[11:16] <ikonia> eronis: yes, unmaintained packages are a risk because they are unmaintained
[11:16] <iranen> that's why i love rolling distros like arch or solus
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[11:16] <bharat> i mean if i have any doubt can i ask you?
[11:16] <eronis> Ok, now I understand how support works.
[11:17] <eronis> Thanks for your time :)
[11:17] <eronis> And help :)
[11:17] <ikonia> no problem
[11:17] <Speiros> I need to go away for a few hours, but if you stay in this room, and let people know you are doing an install, it will work.  Are you installing onto this computer, or another one?
[11:18] <bharat> this computer
[11:18] <Speiros> bharat I see.  It isn't possible to be able to talk on here then.  Do you use the IRC client on your phone at all?
[11:18] <bharat> no
[11:19] <Speiros> bharat That's okay, as I don't either.
[11:19] <bharat> then how to contact you?
[11:19] <bharat> by mail?
[11:19] <Speiros> bharat All I can suggest is firstly, look at the information given previously about considering which operating system to load.  If using your version, then know it won't be supported after about three months...
[11:20] <bharat> ubuntu 14.04 will spuuort for my lap?
[11:20] <Speiros> bharat Also, keep in mind your disk names, so you don't accidentally install onto your existing hard-drive.  If you've got as far as the prompts, it appears it will work.
[11:20] <ikonia> ubuntu 14.04 is tha earlier LTS release, I'd suggest you target 16.04 if this is a new install
[11:20] <ikonia> 14.04 however is fine
[11:21] <Speiros> bharat I think so.  I used to have 14.04 on a laptop.
[11:21] <Speiros> bharat When choosing a file system, I'd use ext3 for my Ubuntu install.
[11:21] <bharat> mine lenovo b590
[11:22] <Talche> Why ext3 and not ext4 speiros?
[11:22] <Speiros> bharat How much RAM and Hard disk space?
[11:22] <bharat> in google its showing 12.04lts for this model
[11:22] <bharat> 117GB free space
[11:22] <Speiros> Talche Only because there's no need for ext4 yet, due to it being less than 2TB, and also that it doesn't need defragmenting.
[11:22] <floating_rain> why don't you all use 16.04 LTS?
[11:22] <bharat> & 1.5GB ram free
[11:23] <iranen> ext4 is better
[11:23] <Speiros> bharat That would be fine.
[11:23] <Talche> xD
[11:23] <Talche> I made a fresh ubuntuserver install with ext4
[11:23] <Talche> So already a mistake :D
[11:23] <Speiros> Talche I use ext4 too, but it's no problem...I hope:P
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[11:24] <Talche> Ahh.. Fine than
[11:24] <Speiros> bharat No, I'm afraid.  If you are on here in about 2 hours, I will be here to help out if needed.  I won't be giving personal information out though.
[11:24] <bharat> okay
[11:24] <Talche> Btw anyone has any experience with running a small home server?
[11:25] <ikonia> Talche: whats the problem ?
[11:25] <Speiros> bharat I'll be back soon.  I need to do something important:)  See you in 2 hours approximately if you're still here.
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[11:25] <Talche> Hmm.. I have a couple of problems ikonia :)
[11:25] <kang0> Is it possible to convert Ubuntu into .wim file?
[11:25] <kang0> Or image
[11:25] <Speiros> bharat Speiros:)
[11:25] <bharat> sure i will be there
[11:25] <Speiros> bharat Ok mate.  See you soon:)
[11:25] <Talche> First one is that i can ssh through the same network over a second pc
[11:26] <Talche> But cannot ssh from other network...
[11:26] <ikonia> Talche: ok ?
[11:26] <jonkri> What does it mean when apt-get is trying to fetch a file (http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/snapd/ubuntu-core-launcher_2.20.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb) that doesn't exist (the server returns 404)? Neither running apt-clean, or replacing /etc/apt with a clean copy of another Ubuntu installation, makes a difference.
[11:26] <Talche> And i'm on a dynamic ip
[11:26] <ikonia> Talche: so thats most likley a routing problem
[11:26] <ikonia> jonkri: looks like it's looking for snaps
[11:26] <jonkri> Where may the apt-related state resulting in that problem be?
[11:26] <Talche> Or can it be port forwarding trouble?
[11:27] <Talche> Im pretty noob at servers
[11:27] <Talche> But willing to learn :)
[11:27] <ikonia> Talche: are you trying to access it over the internet
[11:28] <jonkri> ikonia: It is, yeah. What does that mean? http://lpaste.net/952687560876883968
[11:28] <Talche> Ikonia, yes i tried over 3g, doesnt go through
[11:28] <ikonia> jonkri: it means that packages are not on that server
[11:28] <ikonia> Talche: right, so you're trying to access it over the internet
[11:29] <ikonia> Talche: what is the EXACT command you are using to access it over the internet
[11:29] <Talche> I got myself juicy ssh
[11:29] <jonkri> ikonia: What is requesting them, though?
[11:29] <Talche> So i just tried username@ip:22
[11:29] <ikonia> jonkri: I'd guess the way you've configured snap
[11:29] <ikonia> Talche: what IP
[11:30] <Talche> 192.168.0.103
[11:30] <ikonia> Talche: thats a private non-routeable address
[11:30] <ikonia> Talche: that will never work on the internet
[11:30] <Talche> The only one that i get through ifconfig
[11:30] <ikonia> Talche: so there is your first problem
[11:31] <ikonia> Talche: that is the internal IP - not the public IP
[11:31] <Talche> Ok... I kinda guessed it
[11:31] <Talche> But now im wondering
[11:31] <floating_rain> that's funny
[11:31] <ikonia> ok, so there is your first problem solved
[11:31] <ikonia> use the public IP
[11:32] <Talche> If i can use some dynamic dns service to have a fixed address rhat i could use
[11:32] <ikonia> DNS is nothing to do with this problem
[11:32] <ikonia> you are using a non-internet IP on the internet
[11:32] <ikonia> use the internet IP - problem solved
[11:32] <Talche> Ok
[11:32] <Talche> Ill try it now
[11:34] <smith_> Hello everyone
[11:35] <smith_> i have an issue during iscsi target discovery
[11:35] <smith_> coonnectin refused
[11:35] <smith_> to discover target
[11:36] <noobuntu> How do I get times new roman on ubuntu? The pdf reader evince is substituting dejavu sans which is breaking my pdf.
[11:36] <noobuntu> If it substiuted a serif font even that would be OK
[11:37] <jonkri> Thanks, ikonia!
[11:37] <ikonia> jonkri: sorted ?
[11:38] <jonkri> ikonia: I wasn't the one experiencing the problem, so I can't tell yet, sorry.
[11:38] <ikonia> jonkri: you think you've found it though ?
[11:38] <jonkri> But I bet you're right. apt-get wanted to install some snap packages.
[11:44] <noobuntu> OK I got the required font but it still is not using it. Here's an image http://i.imgur.com/C0VfOwy.png
[11:45] <noobuntu> Rebult font cache too (fc-cache -f -v)
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:47] <estrellaCT> buongiorno
[11:48] <estrellaCT> good morning
[11:49] <Talche> ikonia
[11:49] <Talche> still i cant connect with public ip to the server :(
[11:49] <Talche> imust be doing something wrong i gues...
[11:54] <x_> Hi
[11:55] <x_> How do I make Ubuntu read my iPhone photos?
[11:55] <Talche> quit
[11:55] <x_> It can already recognize it, but not read photos
[12:00] <afrokarlsson> guten morgen, schprechen sie deutch?
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> !de
[12:06] <bloony> I dont have a usb stick.. can I install ubuntu from windows 10 somehow? I found a solution with unetbootin and wubi, but it doesnt work with windows 10.. only older versions.. is there a replacement for this in windows 10?
[12:08] <rory> bloony: It's uber hacky and breaks a lot in my experience. Consider Virtualbox if you want to try it out. Otherwise I'd strongly recommend finding a USB stick. You can get a 4GiB one extremely cheaply.
[12:08] <iranen> can you burn it to dvd?
[12:09] <bloony> I don't want to just try it..
[12:09] <bloony> dont have a dvd reader on this
[12:09] <afrokarlsson> clockwork orange maybe
[12:10] <luke_skywalker> hi
[12:10] <luke_skywalker>  how are you?
[12:10] <bloony> I'm traveling in india and wont be able to get a stick before a few days, but wanted to set it up now when I have access to a good internett connection
[12:11] <luke_skywalker> india, thats is a spirit
[12:11] <iranen> do you have even SD card, you can use it too i guess
[12:11] <luke_skywalker> no
[12:12] <luke_skywalker> i dont have sd card, but my r2 need a one
[12:12] <noobuntu> bloony you can get usb sticks just about enywhere, even in India
[12:13] <koffeinfriedhof> bloony: I do not know anything about win10, but perhaps you may prepare a little partition on your harddisk and place a bitwise copy of the stick there. Are you familiar with linux?
[12:13] <luke_skywalker> darth vader is my father
[12:13] <koffeinfriedhof> !ot | luke_skywalker
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> luke_skywalker  do you have an ubuntu question?
[12:14] <luke_skywalker> yes i have ubuntu question, why ubuntu exist?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> luke_skywalker  to annoy you ... now go to another channel
[12:15] <brotherBox> any idea when python3.6 will be the standard for python3 in ubuntu?
[12:16] <luke_skywalker> have you some slut channel?
[12:16] <noobuntu> Can anyone help with my font problem i asked?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> noobuntu  hit the up arrow to repeat your question
[12:17] <luke_skywalker> MonkeyDust hit your fat ass
[12:17] <brotherBox> can an op please take care of this joker
[12:17] <koffeinfriedhof> noobuntu: you may copy your fontfile to your system. But I do not know the graphical way in ubuntu itself.
[12:18] <luke_skywalker> i kill you in one moment
[12:18] <koffeinfriedhof> noobuntu: You may copy it to "~/.local/share/fonts/truetype" and update fs-cache
[12:18] <luke_skywalker> im jedy knight
[12:19] <Fuchs> luke_skywalker: yes, hello, network staff here, would you mind stopping the silly threats? Thank you.
[12:20] <luke_skywalker> no
[12:20] <Fuchs> yes.
[12:20] <luke_skywalker> no
[12:20] <brotherBox> you dont agree with freenode staff
[12:20] <brotherBox> *Disagree
[12:20] <luke_skywalker> no
[12:21] <brotherBox> yeah, when in doubt they're always right
[12:21] <toogley> i'm not sure if i understand the manpage of ln correctly: when i make a link from ~/dir/zshrc to ~/.zshrc - i have to use ln -s ~/dir/zshrc ~/.zshrc right?
[12:22] <luke_skywalker> sorry
[12:22] <koffeinfriedhof> luke_skywalker: This is a support channel for ubuntu, not a replacement for psychotherapy
[12:22] <luke_skywalker> ok
[12:23] <luke_skywalker> let it be
[12:23] <koffeinfriedhof> toogley: Yes. The first parameter is the target. ~/.zshrc would then be the link to ~/dir/zshrc
[12:24] <toogley> koffeinfriedhof: thanks
[12:25] <bloony> got disconnected.. no theres no sd card reader on it either
[12:25] <koffeinfriedhof> bloony: I do not know anything about win10, but perhaps you may prepare a little partition on your harddisk and place a bitwise copy of the stick there. Are you familiar with linux?
[12:26] <bloony> koffeinfriedhof: I've used linux for a bit.. Im a programmer..
[12:27] <bloony> koffeinfriedhof: so I can make a partition and use unetbootin to make a boot on that partition?
[12:28] <noobuntu> koffeinfriedhof: fc-cache right, theres no fs-cache command
[12:29] <bloony> when its booted the installer is in the memory, right? so I can remove all partitions in the installer and then use the whole hdd to install?
[12:30] <koffeinfriedhof> noobuntu: sorry, fc-cache is right
[12:31] <noobuntu> Didn't work. tried qpdfviewer and okular viewer too, same problem. File renders fine in windows though.
[12:32] <koffeinfriedhof> bloony: Without a stick? No. You need an installation medium. I thought of using a virtualbox-Installation to prepare the free partition(s) on the host, e.g. get some free space in windows (unformatted), install virtualbox with ubuntu, give it access to the host, format the free partitions in ext4 and create your installation "manually" copying the installed vbox-ubuntu to the real harddisk.
[12:33] <Tahr-Poop> bloony, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[12:33] <Satie> Hey guys, I cannot acess many sites because of a request timeout problem
[12:33] <arnold_shwarzenn> no problemo
[12:34] <koffeinfriedhof> noobuntu: You may try to use your font globally using "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/" as folder and "sudo fc-cache" to update.
[12:34] <arnold_shwarzenn> hi
[12:35] <koffeinfriedhof> Tahr-Poop: he has no dvd or stick to boot from
[12:39] <denis> Дратути
[12:39] <Satie> And I've already tried many browsers and also used the Manjaro
[12:39] <Guest90816> Дратути
[12:40] <Guest90816> что я вчера бухал, почему у меня на ноуте стоит убунту?
[12:40] <koffeinfriedhof> !ru
[12:41] <Tahr-Poop> bloony, whats your partition table type?
[12:42] <bloony> Tahr-Poop: ntfs I think.. its a default windows 10 install
[12:43] <ViciousLooRoll> is there any cheaper alternatives to photon?
[12:44] <clubmate_> hello i have a question abou plymouth(currently running ubuntu maté 16.04)
[12:45] <Tahr-Poop> bloony, thats file system, in disk management open properties of internal hdd and tell us partition style
[12:45] <clubmate_> are you talking to me ?
[12:46] <clubmate_> tahr-poop
[12:46] <Tahr-Poop> clubmate_, nope, i was talking to bloony
[12:46] <clubmate_> ok
[12:47] <clubmate_> does anybody in here have further experiences with plymouth ?
[12:48] <Tahr-Poop> clubmate_, just ask your question
[12:48] <jonkri> ikonia: Unfortunately, I didn't find the problem, after all. :)
[12:49] <clubmate_> ok as i said i used to have installed ubuntu mate 15.10
[12:50] <clubmate_> whit a custom splash for plymouth
[12:50] <Jackneill> hey
[12:50] <clubmate_> whith
[12:50] <qwere> anyone know the solution for adjusting brightness in ubuntu 16.04 of Toshiba satellite pro c640? I have tried all the solutions from the ubuntu forums but none of them worked, I have tried this for 3 days
[12:50] <Jackneill> i downloaded the latest 16.10 img. 64 bit. is it compatible with no uefi bios?
[12:50] <bloony> Tahr-Poop: theres a efi system partition (260mb), recovery partition (1000mb), and a main windows partition (27gb)
[12:50] <Satie> qwere: did you tried xrandr?
[12:50] <clubmate_> but as i updated to 16.04 the splash changed to the edubuntu theme
[12:50] <Jackneill> unetbootin will suffice for creating a live usb?
[12:51] <qwere> yeah I did
[12:51] <qwere> but it did not work
[12:51] <qwere> I did grub and gedit also, but my OS was crashed
[12:52] <clubmate_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[12:52] <Satie> Type xrandr and put the result in the pastebin
[12:53] <qwere> okay I will
[12:54] <clubmate_> sometimes google is the easiest way to get answers to your questions
[12:55] <Tahr-Poop> bloony, google > xboot grub4dos iso emulation
[12:56] <koffeinfriedhof> clubmate_: http://bfy.tw/9tBE :)
[12:56] <qwere> do I have to type only xrandr
[12:57] <clubmate_> ok as i said i used to have installed ubuntu mate 15.10 with a custom splash screen for plymouth, but as i updated to 16.04 the splshscreen changed to the edubuntu splash. Now i tried several ways to get rid of the edubuntu splash but it seens that just the shutdown splash is changing but the bootup splash is the edubuntu just like before... eventhough i deleted the original edubuntu folder...
[12:58] <clubmate_> thanks koffeinfriedhof for your frther help ;)
[12:59] <koffeinfriedhof> clubmate_: scnr :) did you try "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u"
[12:59] <clubmate_> yes of yourse
[13:00] <clubmate_> course
[13:01] <qwere> http://pastebin.com/xkCTFuVG
[13:01] <qwere> this is my pastebin error
[13:01] <clubmate_> i changed the theme serveral times until i got mad and deleted all themes except the one i wanted... them opened the terminal and marked the original maté theme... but it only shows up while shutting down the computer... however while booting up the edubuntu splash shows up with no reason to me
[13:04] <koffeinfriedhof> clubmate_: In "/lib/plymouth/themes/NAME" do you find the configuration. I do not actually have access to it (only an ubuntu server without a plymouth theme). Perhaps you'll find solution there?
[13:06] <clubmate_> thanks ill trie that... btw are you a german?
[13:06] <OnkelTem> Hi
[13:06] <sdasda> hey guys, everytime i log into my ubuntu i have to do ifconfig up and sudo service network manager restart. how can i enable my wifi automatically on startup?
[13:06] <sdasda> please help
[13:06] <koffeinfriedhof> due to my awful grammar sometimes? :D Yes, I am
[13:06] <OnkelTem> What is Ubuntu Core and can I use it somehow for my Desktop PC?
[13:07] <clubmate_> koffeinfriedhof... haha yeah i recognized due your grammar, bc im too ;D
[13:08] <k1l> OnkelTem: see https://www.ubuntu.com/core  for starters. but most user want the traditional ubuntu on their desktop
[13:08] <OnkelTem> I think about creating a set of [minimal, virtual] hosts running the same system to deploy and run there several docker containers. I don't think Ubuntu 16.04 for Desktop is a good choice for it's using too much space
[13:08] <OnkelTem> k1l: I read it. Didn't understand a thing :)
[13:08] <nogger> hi, i'm an elementary os user, I had a little window request to insert my password to upgrade system sources, I usually negate because not sure where that come from, but today i was distracted and i inserted my sudo password, shoul I reinstall?
[13:09] <OnkelTem> maybe I should consider Ubuntu Server for my task?
[13:09] <qwere> Anyone please check the brightness problem of my laptop using ubuntu and this is the error I got in my pastebin : http://pastebin.com/xkCTFuVG
[13:09] <OnkelTem> Or Ubuntu Core?
[13:09] <k1l> OnkelTem: ubuntu core is more like the android model. you dont change the system, only with a whole new install/update.
[13:09] <koffeinfriedhof> nogger: #elementary
[13:09] <OnkelTem> k1l: Ah, I see
[13:10] <sdasda> guys help please my wifi isn't working
[13:10] <k1l> OnkelTem: you can ask in #snappy
[13:10] <nogger> no one responding on #elementary, i have to do accounting asap, since elementary is based on ubuntu i thought of asking here
[13:10] <OnkelTem> k1l: snappy is a packaging system I believe, right?
[13:10] <OnkelTem> k1l: why would I?
[13:11] <OnkelTem> k1l: or you mean getting more info on the Core?
[13:11] <k1l> OnkelTem: yes its both. new package system for apps and new system setup like ubuntu core
[13:11] <clubmate_> sdasda u got any error messages or what? explayn your problem in particular
[13:11] <Arpit97> sdasda, use lan cable and then install proper wifi driver
[13:11] <sdasda> clubmate_ when i start my computer i have to sudo ifconfig ra0 up, and then restart the network manager to be able to have wifi
[13:11] <clubmate_> thats a option
[13:11] <sdasda> it doesn't start automtically
[13:11] <nogger> @koffeinfriedhof no one responding on #elementary, i have to do accounting asap, since elementary is based on ubuntu i thought of asking here *edit not sure how to respond to an user on irc
[13:12] <sdasda> i have the driver and everything is configured but the ra0 is always down not up
[13:12] <ioria> sdasda, cat /etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:12] <k1l> nogger: see if they offer support on forums or something else. or you can ask in ##linux . this channel here is for ubuntu only
[13:12] <koffeinfriedhof> nogger: "based on". ubuntu is "based on" debian. But they could hardly help you with e.g. Unity. One chooses its distro with its community. I never used elementary or had a look at. So I can't help you with this distro.
[13:13] <Vibor> Hi, I just read this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656/how-to-move-usr-to-a-new-partition/668#668 . Can someone please explain why when a directory is mounted over by a filesystem, this directory has to be found by mount --bind, and since ls -a tells it's neither hidden nor unhidden but it still occupies / space, where is it actually? Thanks :)
[13:13] <sdasda> i dont understand ioria
[13:13] <nogger> does this request ever happen in ubuntu?
[13:13] <ioria> sdasda, run it, and paste the ulr resulting
[13:13] <ioria> *url
[13:14] <clubmate_> sdasda hope it helps you out http://askubuntu.com/questions/228673/change-ra0-to-wlan0-in-ubuntu-10-10
[13:14] <Speiros> Hey people:)
[13:14] <nogger> i know it's a bad question but i have to choose between doing unprotected accounting or face the consequences of losing a time frame
[13:14] <komododragon> hy
[13:14] <clubmate_> hi
[13:17] <Vibor> Hope my question is not out of topic ...
[13:17] <Speiros> What is it?
[13:18] <Vibor> Hi, I just read this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656/how-to-move-usr-to-a-new-partition/668#668 . Can someone please explain why when a directory is mounted over by a filesystem, this directory has to be found by mount --bind, and since ls -a tells it's neither hidden nor unhidden but it still occupies / space, where is it actually? Thanks :)
[13:18] <Vibor> Speiros: This
[13:18] <Speiros> lol okay Vibor:)
[13:20] <Vibor> Speiros: And here is a very good example of mount --bind, but it does not seem to answer my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/669/is-it-possible-to-delete-files-when-another-filesystem-is-mounted-on-the-path
[13:23] <Speiros> Vibor I see.  I couldn't tell you the reasons why, as I don't know.  Someone with more knowledge than me will probably be able to answer it in time though:)  If you are using Ubuntu, then you are also in the correct place to be asking it.
[13:23] <ioria> Vibor, it's not that directory, it's all root (/) A bind mount takes an existing directory tree and replicates it under a different point.
[13:24] <Vibor> Ubuntu has the strongest community
[13:25] <Apachez> my google-fu is failing, is there a boot parameter or such to avoid that "please remove the installation medium then press enter" text when rebooting?
[13:25] <ioria> Vibor, and it's not 'hidden', it's just, we can say, overmounted
[13:26] <haw> Any people here?
[13:26] <Apachez> nah, just 1800 bots and you
[13:26] <Vibor> ioria: So, the only way to access the overmounted directory is to bind it to another point, right?
[13:27] <haw> 1800 bots?
[13:27] <ioria> Vibor, i never done personally, but looks like that
[13:27] <haw> interesting
[13:27] <Speiros> haw do you have a question mate?
[13:28] <haw> No mate
[13:28] <Apachez> Speiros: I had a question...
[13:28] <haw> I just installed xchat client
[13:29] <Speiros> Apachez Yes, I saw it, but I don't know the answer.  In time someone will be able to help out:)
[13:29] <haw> I execute chmod 777 -R / yesterday LOL~~~~
[13:29] <Vibor> ioria: Thanks:)
[13:29] <ioria> Vibor, no problem
[13:29] <Speiros> haw Ok...
[13:29] <haw> after that, I reinstall my system...
[13:31] <Speiros> haw And what happened?
[13:31] <piero> !list
[13:31] <haw> My system DOWN!
[13:32] <haw> So said
[13:32] <Speiros> haw Ok.  Are you sure the changing the permissions was the problem?  If so, then do you recall what they were before you changed them, and can you change them back?
[13:32] <joinrer> hi
[13:33] <joinrer> i can't paste to the sites, the ports are blocked why ?
[13:33] <joinrer> I use ufw firewall, and the default ruleset
[13:33] <joinrer> ? What's Wrong here ?
[13:33] <haw> Speiros, I have MANY PROBLEMS, i reinstall my system yesterday night.
[13:33] <haw> god bless me, I will kick off my wisdom tooth tomorrow!
[13:34] <haw> Some people told me it will be horrible pain. :)
[13:35] <haw> BLOODY PAIN....
[13:35] <koffeinfriedhof> !ot | haw
[13:35] <Speiros> haw Sorry to hear about your toothache mate.  As regards your computer, what specifically did you change the permissions in?
[13:36] <haw> Now it's okay, I fixed it. Thank you.
[13:36] <haw> I will be change the channel. :)
[13:36] <Speiros> haw Ok.
[13:40] <NarcM93> hello there
[13:40] <Speiros> :)
[13:40] <Ishka> is there a way i can download the entire RFC index with like wget or something?
[13:41] <Ishka> https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/index
[13:41] <haw> Hello Speiros, yesterday after reinstall my system(ubuntu), then reboot computer, the system show me a blue screen and say: Some problems happened, do you want to report that. I don't know whats happened
[13:42] <haw> I just installed an Nvidia driver.
[13:43] <Ishka> haw ive gotten that message also
[13:44] <Speiros> haw Oh, Nvidia.  Sorry, but I also have had trouble with Nvidia, and I don't know how to  help with that.  There are many on here who can help with that problem though, so don't let my negativity to Nvidia turn you off, as many have had assistance with those drivers, and successfully too, for the most part, they've had them resolved.
[13:44] <Ishka> on litteraly every version of ubuntu. and i just ignored it and everything was fine lol
[13:45] <Ishka> so unless it starts causing major problems and you have backups before tat error message you should be fine
[13:45] <Ishka> i am
[13:45] <haw> I'm worried about that happened again. It's horrible exception.
[13:46] <Speiros> haw What Nvidia card was it?  Do you know the specifics?
[13:46] <haw> GTX 670
[13:46] <Speiros> haw Thanks.  Maybe there's an article, or a log somewhere...I'll have a quick look online.
[13:47] <haw> Very very thank you, maybe my video card to old.
[13:47] <haw> too
[13:48] <Speiros> And which Ubuntu are you using haw?
[13:48] <haw> 16.04
[13:48] <Ishka> well maybe your card would have the drivers on an older version of ubuntu like 4.10
[13:48] <Ishka> jk
[13:48] <Ishka> get a new card
[13:49] <cipher6> Ok So, I'm running unity on 16.04, computer wouldn't let me Super+L to lock, so I went to the bathroom come back and my laptop is playing super porny jazz music, the screen is locked, and the password field is full of dots that I cna't erase to log in,
[13:49] <Speiros> haw Thanks.
[13:49] <stenosis101> Hey there. I have a question about the look and feel of snap apps. Recently I installed the latest version of inkscape and libreoffice on my xubuntu 16.04 system by using the available snap application. In the end both looked very clunky and didnt used the default theme of my desktop environment. Applications provided by an appimage on the other hand don't have this problem. So my question is, why does a snap desktop appli
[13:49] <stenosis101> cation wont use the default environment theme and is there a way to change this behavior??
[13:49] <cipher6> Also, the gear button in the top right wouldn't respond to clicks to open the menu,
[13:49] <Saito> hi people.
[13:50] <haw> details: I reinstall my system--> Upgrade some software-->Install N's driver, then alert me a msg:some problem blah blah, I reboot my computer... blue screen... never get in desktop again...
[13:51] <ioria> cipher6, can you open a console ?
[13:51] <cipher6> Couldn't had to do a hard power down,
[13:51] <cipher6> looks like the porn jazz was from a rogue web ad,
[13:51] <Speiros> haw There's a link here, but it states "14.04 and up" although not specifically 16.04.  It might be helpful to look at it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:52] <cipher6> the computer locking after I walked away, filling the password field nad not being clickable is still unexplained
[13:52] <tatertots> haw: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[13:52] <OnkelTem> Folks, is there a package with sounds good for notifications and etc?
[13:52] <ioria> cipher6, try with ctrl+alt+l
[13:52] <OnkelTem> Everytime an requires a sound I have to search my hdd with lots of shitty sounds
[13:52] <haw> Thanks, Speiros, U r professional.
[13:52] <OnkelTem> Everntime an +app
[13:53] <Speiros> haw Well, not yet:)  I've a long way to go in this field.  If it works though, I'll be happy:)
[13:53] <Ntemis> hello
[13:54] <haw> Ishka thank you for your suggesting.:)
[13:54] <Ntemis> i need to push a lot of folders from one dir to another, in that dir there are same name folders with diff content and i want them merged
[13:54] <Ntemis> how i do it from cmd?
[14:01] <Speiros> Ntemis It's not definite, but here's a link that might help.  Let me know if it's a suitable option, specifically answer 14.  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/127712/merging-folders-with-mv/127713
[14:02] <Speiros> Ntemis That isn't showing multiple directories though, I don't think.
[14:02] <Ntemis> tried mv and says Directory not empty
[14:03] <Saito> People! pay attention>
[14:03] <joinrer> how do i know the firefox holds all the files, and thier list
[14:03] <joinrer> say list of all the files owned by firefox?
[14:04] <joinrer> and also the vice versa the package that holds thatfile ?
[14:04] <Ntemis> Speiros: rsync -av works
[14:04] <joinrer> both for local and sync databases
[14:04] <masoud_> hi
[14:04] <Speiros> Ntemis Nice.
[14:04] <joinrer> both the installed on computer and also on the sync databases
[14:04] <Saito> People. I got sth to ask.
[14:05] <Saito> May I continue?
[14:05] <zykotick9> !ask | Saito
[14:05] <Speiros> Saito Just ask mate.
[14:05] <Saito> Have you guys given a try to other distro like remix or phoenix?
[14:06] <Speiros> Ntemis Note that it mentions it will potentially leave empty directories to clean up after.  I think it will accomplish your mission, but will require clean up.  In my opinion that is.
[14:06] <Saito> If you have then, do they boot alongwith ubuntu?
[14:06] <Speiros> Saito No, but I used Fedora early on.  I prefer Ubuntu.
[14:07] <Saito> Yeah, I am also a Ubuntu guy. But, where I reside there is a shortage of power.
[14:07] <Saito> With Ubuntu on it, my laptop stays up only for a few hours.
[14:08] <Speiros> Saito I see.  Have you tried Lubuntu for instance?
[14:08] <Speiros> Saito I haven't used it myself, but it is a lighter version.
[14:09] <Saito> I have tried it once, but on a desktop.
[14:09] <johan__> ^^
[14:10] <masoud_> what is easiest way to set up vpn in ubuntu?
[14:10] <Speiros> Saito I am unsure of how much difference it would make for your power outages.
[14:10] <Saito> Remix and Phoenix are android-based actually. And,so they sound like less energy consuming to me.
[14:13] <Speiros> Saito Hmm.  I'm not sure about any of the Android-based distros, although my bias is based on the lack of security on a phone, and this with minimal knowledge to protect myself.
[14:16] <Saito> Well thanks for your time. I'll give it a try.
[14:17] <Speiros> Saito Best wishes, and hoping it works for you, whichever one you choose:)
[14:19] <Tahr-Poop_> Saito, dual booting phoenixos/remixos is risky, last time it formatted my whole hdd to gpt making data unrecoverable; I think booting from usb is more safer option
[14:23] <Speiros> Tahr-Poop_ Hopefully he/she chooses Lubuntu.
[14:47] <matti> ;]
[14:56] <OnkelTem> Guys, I feel really overwhelmed with all these modern Lego-style things: docker, snaps, juju
[14:56] <OnkelTem> How to figure out WHAT do I need to learn and use? :)
[14:57] <OnkelTem> An hour ago I though I need to build a set of docker images but after viewing couple of videos on juju I'm not sure anymore
[14:57] <OnkelTem> What do I need is a development environment, which I can use from Desktop and Laptop
[14:58] <brunch875> hey I want to change fstab so that sdb2 is mounted over /opt
[14:58] <brunch875> but /opt already has stuff
[14:58] <brunch875> is it fine to just cut and paste onto partition?
[14:58] <brunch875> or could there be some unexpected side-effects to that?
[15:00] <adrian_1908> my uneducated guess is that there should be no side effects to be expected. /opt is pretty barebones by default, just data lying there until you call it.
[15:00] <adrian_1908> what "stuff" is there, if I may ask?
[15:00] <brunch875> click.ubuntu.com
[15:00] <brunch875> google chrome, Riot and wine-staging folders
[15:01] <brunch875> worst that would happen is me reinstalling those, really
[15:02] <adrian_1908> brunch875: yes, but if you move them away and then back onto the newly mounted drive, it really should work. I cannot think of a reason for this to cause problems.
[15:02] <brunch875> adrian_1908: thanks, I just needed the encouragement
[15:02] <adrian_1908> brunch875: good luck!
[15:05] <k1l_> OnkelTem: did you look at lxd/lxc already?
[15:06] <k1l_> brunch875: if you mount that over /top the old stuff will not be seen anymore.
[15:06] <brunch875> k1l_: yeah, I have it mounted on /media/brunch/programs right now
[15:06] <brunch875> going to move it there
[15:06] <brunch875> then edit fstab
[15:06] <brunch875> then reboot
[15:07] <brunch875> so /media/brunch/programs -> /opt
[15:07] <brunch875> and current /opt is left empty
[15:11] <Tahr-Poop_>  /opt calibre  click.ubuntu.com  kde3  vivaldi  yandex
[15:12] <lord_daemon> Ubuntu consegue montar partição ufs para escrita?
[15:12] <lord_daemon> Can Ubuntu mount UFS partition for writing?
[15:15] <gambl0re> whats the best way to upgrade ubuntu 14 using virtualbox
[15:16] <k1l_> lord_daemon: what happens when you mount it?
[15:16] <k1l_> gambl0re: ubuntu 14.04 can only be upgraded to 16.04 through the LTS path. the gui updater or "do-release-upgrade" on cli will work
[15:18] <popey> gambl0re: you have ubuntu 14.04 inside virtualbox and want to upgrade it?
[15:22] <OnkelTem> k1l_: and that one too. One more name :)
[15:24] <|\n> hello, should i report this http://i.imgur.com/prtVObJ.png ?
[15:24] <OnkelTem> k1l_: and Vargant on top. So many lego's pieces w/o any understanding :)
[15:25] <k1l_> OnkelTem: hard to tell you what to use without knowing what you want and need. lxd/lxc is very nice if you want to let run linux (apps) on linux
[15:28] <gambl0re> yes i have ubuntu 14 inside birtualbox
[15:29] <gambl0re> the reason i want to upgrade because its running so slow....
[15:29] <gambl0re> and maybe if i upgrade it fixes the issue
[15:29] <OnkelTem> k1l_: My setup is quite... regular. I'm a PHP developer, most time using LAMP. I'd like to build a portable development environmet so that I could easily switch from Linux Desktop to Linux Laptop and just continue working. And I don't want maintain two of them with usual ways.
[15:32] <OnkelTem> So at this moment I'm selecting a good architecture
[15:33] <gambl0re> hello?
[15:34] <OerHeks> gambl0re, if you think upgrading solves that, go for it?
[15:35] <popey> gambl0re: unlikely upgrading will make it faster
[15:37] <OerHeks> indeed, i would check the host for unwanted processes.
[15:37] <OnkelTem> I would split my task into two subtasks: select a read-only part of the system (this includes services) and select a system to maintain data.
[15:40] <Whitor> HI all,  I have a weird issue. 16.04 printing to an HP 2100 laserjet.  When I print... nothing comes out... but if I open the print queue, I see my print job and it clears automatically! If I print multiple things... they hang out in the print queue until I open it. As soon as I do, the print queue dumps and everything come out of the printer. And ideas?
[15:40] <lord_daemon> k1l_ Read only the ufs partition
[15:42] <Whitor> So, my process is > Print, open queue, go get my paper.     Not horrible, but It's my wife's laptop and I'd like to fix this for her.
[15:44] <OerHeks> Whitor, maybe this page is any help >> sudo hp-setup -i >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/770243/hp-laserjet-wont-print-16-04-lts
[15:45] <Whitor> OerHeks, thanks. I'll take any leads!
[15:45] <OerHeks> remove the printer first!
[15:46] <Whitor> OerHeks, I see that! just read through.... I will try it
[15:46] <Whitor> thx again!
[15:55] <Apachez> when doing "cpio -id /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-37-generic" on the initrd provided through ubuntu only a single file is getting extracted, how come?
[15:57] <RNeville> Hello everyone, have a problem with grub booting from undesired Harddrive, need to reset grub , running Ubuntu 16.04
[15:58] <RNeville> Forget grub command to get it reset
[16:01] <OerHeks> easy to forget, there is no grub reset command, just reinstall
[16:01] <OerHeks> !grub
[16:03] <mage9000> Hello! Problem (Ubuntu 16.10): Getting no sound from my Asus SupremeFX Hi-Fi (USB audio module that comes with the ROG RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 motherboard). I can select "Analog output, SupremeFX Hi-Fi" in the sound settings, but the head phones are silent when I run the sound test. It's also listed by Alsa (e.g. in alsamixer and ReNoise) - but it's silent.
[16:03] <ppf> !sound | mage9000
[16:21] <wendico> Hello, im trying to install unvanquised in ubuntu 14.04 LTS (up to date) but the command to add the repository "sudo sh -c ‘echo deb http://debs.unvanquished.net trusty main > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unvanquished.list’" returns "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unvanquished.list’: Permission denied". Can anyone help me in what is the problem. Thank you very much.
[16:22] <ouroumov> wendico, try sudo echo directly instead of using a sh -c layer
[16:22] <k1l_> wendico: do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unvanquished.list" and add the line "deb http://debs.unvanquished.net trusty main" manually if its not already there.
[16:23] <k1l_> or use "sudo -i" instead of the sudo sh.
[16:24] <wendico> sudo `echo or sudo -i returns the same, "permision denied" i go ahead try nano and tell u
[16:26] <k1l_> for ubuntu you usually use  echo bla | sudo tee something
[16:26] <tekeli-li> ouroumov, It won't work becaus the redirection is performed by the same bash shell which is calling sudo. that shell doesn't get the super powers.
[16:27] <wendico> i did sudo nano and the line is there twice, and only those 2 lines in there, nevertheless when i do sudo apt-get install unvanquished i get "unable to locate package"
[16:27] <k1l_> wendico: remove one of the lines.
[16:27] <k1l_> wendico: then run "sudo apt update"
[16:28] <wendico> doing it
[16:28] <Miles_Prower> hello
[16:29] <wendico> ohh
[16:29] <mage9000> ppf: The USB sound device seems to be detected correctly by ALSA. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23926353/
[16:29] <tekeli-li> wendico, is it working now?
[16:29] <wendico> now, sudo apt-get update gives me the error: Failed to fetch http://debs.unvanquished.net/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 107.189.33.26 80]
[16:30] <wendico> so i still cant locate the package, i guess i added a wrong line to repository?
[16:30] <tekeli-li> wendico, I think 404 means the server can't find the file you requested. Check the URL very carefully.
[16:30] <k1l_> wendico: because that repo is down. talk to them to fix their stuff
[16:31] <wendico> ohh so the repo is down,
[16:31] <wendico> is good, at least is not a problem in my ubuntu hehe
[16:31] <wendico> thank you very much for the help, im gonna try to look in another repo
[16:32] <tekeli-li> Good luck wendico
[16:32] <wendico> thank you very much, u are awesome help in this channel like always!
[16:35] <ioria> wendico, maybe now it's working ... http://debs.unvanquished.net/trusty/main/
[16:36] <helga_> hello?
[16:37] <tomreyn> wendico: don't use debs.unvanquished.net, it's legacy, no longer supported
[16:38] <tomreyn> they decided against providing .deb's
[16:38] <wendico> do you mean i should not install unvanquished?
[16:38] <tomreyn> i'm saying you will need to install it some other way.
[16:39] <wendico> can you tell me how, im not very experiencied in ubuntu, should i donwload deb package?
[16:41] <tekeli-li> wendico, If you don't intend to use the repository you added earlier then you should remove it.
[16:41] <tomreyn> wendico: you could use the "getdeb"/"playdeb" PPA
[16:41] <wendico> i just deleted it hehe
[16:41] <wendico> i deleted the lines with nano, is that ok?
[16:41] <tomreyn> wendico: or you could decide against using APT to install it and od it as the unvanished developers suggest, clicking on the 'download' button on their front page.
[16:41] <Miles_Prower> what is everyone up to
[16:41] <tomreyn> wendico: yes that's okay
[16:43] <tomreyn> http://www.playdeb.net/software/unvanquished
[16:43] <tekeli-li> I found a PPA "0.50.0-1~getdeb3~yakkety"
[16:43] <tomreyn> yakkety is ubuntu 16.10, not 14.04, which you have
[16:43] <tomreyn> packages are release specific (most of the time)
[16:43] <tekeli-li> ^ That's important
[16:44] <tomreyn> i.e. you can't just use a package made for yakkety on trsuty
[16:44] <wendico> i did hit the download button on the unvanquished web page but i get a tar.gz with some kind of scrip inside
[16:44] <wendico> i dont know how to install that
[16:44] <tomreyn> you don't install it. it's an archive file. you unpack it to a new directory, then run that script.
[16:45] <backbox> a
[16:45] <tomreyn> but if this sounds a bit finicky you may be better off using the playdeb PPA
[16:45] <wendico> ok, i decompresed and run it
[16:46] <tomreyn> keep in mind this software will never get updates unless you manually update it by downloading again, removing the old version.
[16:46] <zykotick9> wendico: note, once you use that binary install (vs. installing from a deb or a repo) uninstalling/updating will be much harder.  just sayin'
[16:46] <wendico> ok that was easy, i was worried because inside the tar compresed file, the updater file said "not known file type"
[16:47] <wendico> ohh zykotick9 thank you for sayin, no i did hit install anyways
[16:47] <wendico> if i need to uninstall i should have to read a guide?
[16:48] <wendico> i normally always try to install from a repo
[16:48] <kaminishi> I would like to install Ubuntu but using an existing home folder. The installer will overwrite this folder?
[16:49] <claudius> You can make a backup
[16:49] <humoroustwo> Hello
[16:49] <tomreyn> wendico: what zykotick9 just said is entirely true for non-packaged (.deb / apt) software you download and install using sudo. if you just unapck some archive in your home directory like you did here, all without sudo, and you trust those folks not to do malicious things, then you're probably okay, too.
[16:49] <wendico> kaminishi, i have the home folder in a separate partition and if i dont click format my home folder is always there with its things on reinstall
[16:49] <humoroustwo> I'm trying to run intellij as sudo so that I can update it
[16:50] <wendico> thank u tomreyn,
[16:50] <wendico> i think i can trust the unvaquised team, i used to love tremulous aswell
[16:50] <humoroustwo> I've run idea.sh in the install directory, but it presents me with an installation wizard. Does anyone with knowledge of intellij know how to approach this?
[16:56] <wendico> Hello again, i want to learn programing for android devices (i think that means in java) on my ubuntu desktop, i dont know how to program in any language even though im very familiar with code and i did created some webpages (html without java scripts). where should i start? should i install Android Studio for linux or do you recommend me to start somewhere else to make it easier for me to learn?
[16:56] <tomreyn> humoroustwo: maybe use this https://launchpad.net/~mmk2410/+archive/ubuntu/intellij-idea-community
[16:57] <tomreyn> note it's non-official. another non-official approach is the script at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30130934/how-to-install-intellij-idea-on-ubuntu
[17:01] <Satie> I've receiving "request timeout" in some websites
[17:02] <tomreyn> Satie: and... you're looking for assistence in diagnosing those?
[17:03] <Satie> The problem is that they didn't worked on Manjaro too
[17:03] <humoroustwo> tomreyn: Cheers, I'll give it a go. Are you aware if intellij has any dependencies? The internet says that to uninstall it, you have to simple delete some folders :P
[17:04] <humoroustwo> tomaw: ah wait I'm using pro D:
[17:04] <humoroustwo> not intellij community
[17:04] <tomreyn> humoroustwo: if you'll be using the PPA i pointed you to, i would expect that dependencies are resolved automatically. i do not use this software, though, and do not have any first hand experience.
[17:06] <OerHeks> Satie, check with some extrnal source like http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[17:06] <tomreyn> humoroustwo: the stackoverflow description of the script posted there states it works with either variant
[17:07] <Satie> Already tried, thanks OerHeks
[17:07] <lol768> Hello! I have a Radeon GPU and am trying to change from fglrx to xserver-xorg-video-ati
[17:09] <lol768> I am using software-properties-gtk
[17:10] <lol768> Choosing the open source driver and clicking apply does nothing
[17:10] <lol768> stderr says "Warning: install transaction not completed successfully: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.234'}:( org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages"
[17:11] <realmist> why can't I paste, and I use curl on ptpb and other I just can't paste due to some silly reason ?
[17:11] <realmist> I use ufw, as the firewall
[17:13] <Talche> hi all
[17:15] <humoroustwo> tomreyn: Can I have the link to that stackoverflow description please? I'm struggling to find it :P
[17:15] <siva_machina> hello
[17:16] <tomreyn> humoroustwo: i posted it earlier: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30130934/how-to-install-intellij-idea-on-ubuntu
[17:17] <humoroustwo> Whoopsy, didn't see that. I thought there was a link on the launchpad or something
[17:17] <humoroustwo> I thought it would have been a bit pecular :P
[17:17] <Talche> guys
[17:17] <Talche> when i set up a server, do i need to do any port forwarding for it to be accessible from other pcs?
[17:22] <ppf> Talche: port forwarding where?
[17:22] <Frede> I have an ubuntu system running as a bridge, currently, between my router and my internet. The bridging is working successfully and I can communicate through it. On the ubuntu system I'm also running squid. If I set up my computer to use my ubuntu system as proxy it works great. I want to do transparent proxying. I'm trying to get it to work with IPtables but so far no luck. Anyone know how I would accomplish that?
[17:22] <Talche> hmm
[17:22] <Talche> any?
[17:22] <Talche> never did it before..
[17:22] <Talche> actually i'm noob in this stuff, so i'm only learning
[17:25] <ppf> Talche: nothing wrong with that. read up on what port forwarding is and does
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Frede  that question sounds very specific, not sure if it's for this channel ... try #squid or ##security
[17:26] <Frede> MonkeyDust: Thanks. I'll try :)
[17:26] <Talche> ok
[17:26] <Talche> and how can i see the external ip on the machine
[17:26] <Talche> since it is server and i have only terminal?
[17:26] <ppf> the external ip is the ip of the router, you need to ask the router
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> Talche  dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[17:27] <ppf> ip addr to list the ips of the server machine
[17:27] <z1haze> i have a relatively simple question i think. I have a web server, and an ssh user. i want the ssh user to be abllowed to create/modify/delete files in the web server folders.. what permissions does the ssh user need?
[17:28] <z1haze> the web server is www-data:www-data of course and i have given the ssh user added to group www-data and gave the whole folder permissions of 775 yet he can still not use git on the webserver
[17:28] <Lavinho> It is possible to use RAM memory with less voltage than the original netbook
[17:28] <Lavinho> ?
[17:30] <Xun> Hi all
[17:30] <Xun> I need help
[17:30] <z1haze> i solved it, i just had to restart the ssh session
[17:30] <mass> hi
[17:31] <mass> how can i set up vpn in ubuntu?
[17:31] <Xun> I need support with a touch bar on a gt70 msi. It works but nothing happen
[17:31] <Xun> This touch buttons are seen by ubuntu but there is nothing associated to them
[17:32] <Xun> how can I set up them?
[17:33] <Talche> got it working bro
[17:33] <Talche> thank youuuu
[17:34] <Xun> I need support with a touch bar on a gt70 msi. It works but nothing happen. This touch buttons are seen by ubuntu but there is nothing associated to them. How can I set up them?
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Xun  is it a tablet or phone?
[17:35] <Xun> It's a laptop
[17:35] <Xun> gaming laptop
[17:36] <Lavinho> It is possible to use RAM memory with less voltage than the original netbook?
[17:38] <ppf> Lavinho: beyond the knowledge of #ubuntu
[17:43] <DJones> Lavinho: You might find some help if you join ##hardware (may be #hardware) but certainly not something that was supported by in #ubuntu
[17:45] <Talche> guys.... anyone willing to help with a longer issue?
[17:45] <Talche> or to form it better
[17:45] <Talche> anyone willing to teach me ? :D
[17:46] <alkisg> !ask
[17:47] <Lavinho> Cannot send to channel: ##hardware
[17:48] <Lavinho> help me
[17:48] <ducasse> !register | Lavinho
[17:56] <vaskozl> Hey I'm getting a new laptop this week and I am probably going to switch from 2 years of Arch Linux to Ubuntu.
[17:56] <vaskozl> I really like unity and think its the best environment hands down.
[17:56] <vaskozl> Planning to do a minimal or command line install.
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> vaskozl  that's great ... prepare a usb or dvd so you can try it
[17:57] <vaskozl> Is it possible to simply install unity without the packages the utilities?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> !mini | vaskozl there's this
[17:57] <xangua> vaskozl: what would "simple unity" be?
[17:58] <vaskozl> I mean the DE with the search, hud and panel.
[17:58] <vaskozl> Like ubuntu-desktop but smaller.
[17:58] <ducasse> vaskozl: installing the unity package would only install the environment itself, it seems. look at the dependencies.
[17:58] <ioria> maybe a install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <vaskozl> Ah if just unity is sufficient that is awesome!
[18:00] <ducasse> vaskozl: the scopes etc are just recommends, so you can easily avoid them as well.
[18:00] <ioria> vaskozl, a bit old but maybe works http://ask.xmodulo.com/install-minimal-ubuntu-desktop.html
[18:03] <vaskozl> That's exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
[18:03] <ioria> good luck
[18:05] <mcphail> I'm seeing stupidly high CPU usage from a "Web Content" process when running firefox these days. See https://ovh.themcphails.uk/index.php/s/GYkTSLuHM0wjm7N for > 20% CPU usage for a single tab with the Google homepage open. Anyone else seeing this?
[18:06] <weoli> once I open librewriter, how do i open back hte libreoffice suite ?
[18:06] <weoli> how do  I go back to libreoffice start page, if I started the librewriter ?
[18:06] <farnkeys> someone please help. I did a bad thing... I was trying to remove a file and accidently did rm -fr wrong and it removed all files (other than the hidden ones). Most things appear to be working ok. But desktop dir is gone, and now when I try to log in to the GUI after putting my password for my user it gives me a quick flash to "/dev/sda6: clean, 309538/41123840 files, 12159288/164476416 blocks" then it goes right back to the login s
[18:07] <farnkeys> I did create a new Desktop through ssh
[18:07] <ioria> mcphail, usually it'a an advertisement  ....
[18:07] <farnkeys> but something else appears to be wrong
[18:08] <ioria> mcphail, it opens silently behind the main page
[18:08] <mcphail> ioria: nope. Happening on several "simple" pages. Some complex pages aren't affecting CPU usage
[18:08] <Talche> People, i need some help registering a new (free) domain for my server, and since i am on a dynamic IP i am not sure what to do... When i go to the page to register it i guess i will also need a DNS... So how to set up this DNS?
[18:08] <ioria> mcphail, oh
[18:09] <mcphail> ioria: happening is afe mode as well, so not profile/extension error
[18:09] <ducasse> Talche: that is a more appropriate question for ##networking
[18:09] <mcphail> *in safe mode
[18:09] <Talche> thank you
[18:09] <ioria> mcphail,  flashplayer (or similar) involved  ?
[18:10] <mcphail> ioria: I've tried with adobe flash and pepperflash. No noticeable change
[18:10] <hehe> farnkeys: are u capable of loginin?
[18:11] <ioria> mcphail,  no idea then ... how often it happens ?
[18:11] <hehe>  farnkeys: even i get all the time "clean, 309538/41123840 files, 12159288/164476416 blocks", but i havn't deleted anything
[18:12] <mcphail> ioria: noticed my fan spinning the past few days, but can't pinpoint exactly when it started. I think there was a firefox update quite recently. Don't know if that was a trigger
[18:13] <ioria> mcphail,  yes, to 51
[18:13] <weoli> ducase hi, yyou did reply t o some of my questions , earlier , os I was wondering you could just tell me about it
[18:13] <incline> leave
[18:14] <mcphail> ioria: I'll keep poking around and see if I can find out more. Wanted to know if I was the only one :)
[18:14] <ioria> mcphail,  i noticed that too, but as i said, it was a stupid addv window
[18:14] <ioria> mcphail,  had to use pkill
[18:17] <farnkeys> hehe yes I can log in via ssh
[18:17] <farnkeys> looks like I may have figured it out
[18:17] <farnkeys> rm .Xauthority
[18:17] <farnkeys> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[18:17] <farnkeys> chmod +x -R $HOME
[18:17] <farnkeys> reboot
[18:17] <brainyron> I'm having difficulty getting my backlight keys to work on my asus laptop.  I've tried a few of the common fixes I found through searching (acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=) but to no effect.  When I run acpi_listen and hit the proper hotkeys, I don't see any output -- I'm wondering if there's a special driver I'd need and if I'm SOL
[18:18] <hehe>  farnkeys: nice to knwo:)
[18:19] <farnkeys> chmod +x -R $HOME might not be needed. Looks like that command will make all files executable if you do that
[18:21] <mcphail> ioria: oddly, in the google example I posted above, CPU usage drops dramatically if I sign in to my Google account. Might be some javascript the current firefox iteration isn't liking?
[18:22] <ioria> mcphail,  maybe...
[18:22] <ioria> mcphail,  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321997/debugging-high-near-total-cpu-memory-usage-of-web-content-application-on-lin
[18:23] <ioria> mcphail,  sy, not useful
[18:24] <twtduck> Hey guys, can I use the google authenticator pam module as a second factor for my vsftpd authentication?
[18:24] <mcphail> ioria: yes - followed that trail already. That's why I tried changing flash player
[18:24] <ioria> yeah
[18:26] <mcphail> ioria: CPU usage is normal if I log in: https://ovh.themcphails.uk/index.php/s/3AMFa2fO3eF5KlZ
[18:26] <cyb> hi
[18:26] <ioria> mcphail,  i see
[18:28] <LooCfur> Fuchs, that wasn't the christian thing to do, you're supposed to turn the other cheek. I be Fuchsed up
[18:28] <faruk> malı arap faikten alıyorum edirneye kadar da ben kullanıyorum arabayı
[18:29] <cyb> anyone know resolving host lag in client browser on LAN Apache2 server
[18:29] <ioria> mcphail,  "Future versions of Firefox will run the browser UI in a separate process from web content."  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox
[18:29] <twtduck> cyb: How are you connecting to the server? Local ip?
[18:30] <cyb> twtduck yes on 192.168.1.0/24 one ubuntu server and two clients
[18:31] <twtduck> cyb How is pinging the server?
[18:31] <cyb> twtduck, when I try to connect to webpage on local server ... I can have 30 sec of lag before loading page
[18:32] <cyb> ping is fine between 100-200ms
[18:32] <mcphail> ioria: yes, that may be an influence here. I'm asking in #firefox, but suspect they'll ask me to seek support for the Ubuntu build here...
[18:32] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> hello. you only offer support for Ubuntu here, right?
[18:32] <Seveas> SaltyKawaiiNeko: any official ubuntu derivative is supported too
[18:33] <twtduck> cyb That is extraordinary for a LAN network. Might want to check your network configuration.
[18:33] <saitoh183> How do you delete a override file you created for a systemclt service
[18:33] <Seveas> saitoh183: with rm...
[18:33] <twtduck> SaltyKawaiiNeko What are you looking for help with?
[18:33] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> ummm I have a hardware-related problem that I can replicate in any OS
[18:33] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> this isn't the right channel, I think
[18:33] <Seveas> SaltyKawaiiNeko: probably best to take it up with whoever sold you the hardware
[18:34] <twtduck> @SaltyKawaiiNeko What hardware is giving you trouble?
[18:34] <ioria> mcphail,  right, you know, some people  is in  hurry to get the new FF ! :þ
[18:34] <cyb> twtduck, I know ... but lag is only when I want to access web page on server ... if I try to connect to server with other protocol .. ssh for example there is no lag
[18:34] <Seveas> twtduck: it seems unlikely that you can use google auth for vsftp directly, as the ftp protocol doesn't have anything direct. Quick google found a way to do it with radius and a special auth server, which is the direction I would take it too.
[18:35] <saitoh183> Seveas, where are the override files saved...couldnt seem to find it
[18:35] <Seveas> saitoh183: isn't that in /etc/systemd/system?
[18:35] <cyb> twtduck :  I did that ;(
[18:35] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> it's my hard disk drive. I think it's not broken, I just misconfigured something or I fucked up replacing my PSU and my graphics card. I just wanted some hardware-related help, could you please indicate me any channel to start looking?
[18:36] <Seveas> SaltyKawaiiNeko: ##hardware maybe
[18:36] <twtduck> cyb, What is the file transfer speed over, say, ftp? It could just be taking forever to load because of extraordinarily low bandwidth?
[18:36] <Seveas> SaltyKawaiiNeko: but try here too. If it's too offtopic and nobody knows, we'll shoo you away anyway ;)
[18:36] <saitoh183> Thanks...damn typpo
[18:36] <mcphail> ioria: got to have shiny things ;)
[18:37] <ioria> mcphail,  yep, they think it's an easy task
[18:37] <Seveas> mcphail: mercury is shiny. Turn into a mad hatter :)
[18:38] <vaskozl> Just spun up a virtual machine and fired up the minimal iso.
[18:38] <vaskozl> It is amazing!
[18:39] <vaskozl> Especially the disk configuration where you can configure lvm and luks (dm-crypt) so well.
[18:39] <vaskozl> Really, really impressed.
[18:39] <vaskozl> Is it possible to fallback to a cli and possibly install f2fs?
[18:40] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> Ok, I changed my PSU and my graphics card. I didn't touch the SATA cables. Since then, my hard disk drive becomes "RAW" intermittently. as it is an intermittent issue, it's VERY hard to troubleshoot. when I try to test the disk, it magically starts working again fine. this happens in all OSs, however, all SMART tests passed and I think the hardware is ok. i've tested it with several tools. as I said, not sure if this is the
[18:40] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> right place for this...
[18:42] <Seveas> SaltyKawaiiNeko: I'd start with powering down and re-plugging the sata and power cables
[18:42] <ioria> SaltyKawaiiNeko, what was the original issue ?
[18:42] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> Seveas: I already tried that, I've even switched them between drives
[18:42] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> ioria: original issue?
[18:43] <mcphail> SaltyKawaiiNeko: make sure all your PSU->mobo connections are firmly seated. I had a similar problem with a slightly loose ATX cable
[18:43] <ioria> SaltyKawaiiNeko, why are you doing that ? what is your prob ?
[18:43] <Seveas> ioria: read a few lines up :)
[18:44] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> ioria: i just upgraded my graphics card. as it requires a lot of power, I had to change my PSU. there was no "original issue".
[18:44] <ioria> SaltyKawaiiNeko, ok
[18:45] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> i'll ask ##hardware too. thank you guys.
[18:45] <Seveas> SaltyKawaiiNeko: you sure the new psu has enough oomph?
[18:46] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> Seveas: enough what?
[18:46] <Seveas> power
[18:48] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> yes i upgraded it to one with enough power for everything
[18:48] <ioria> SaltyKawaiiNeko,  drives become 'RAW'  if they are disconnected without the correct unmount or unplugging or for a power loss
[18:49] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> yeah that's why i think the hardware is ok
[18:49] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> however i've spent some hours here checking the connections and everything i can't figure out the issue...
[18:50] <mcphail> SaltyKawaiiNeko: any you have definitely checked the ATX connector to the motherboard?
[18:50] <ioria> SaltyKawaiiNeko,  sorry, you can exclude a physical damage ( i hope is not)
[18:50] <ioria> *can't
[18:51] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> ioria: if it's that, I'm very unlucky that it happened just when i changed my graphics card and PSU
[18:52] <ioria> SaltyKawaiiNeko,  unplug the cord, turn off the switch, press power button for 1 minute ...  discharge the static of your hands ...
[18:53] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> ok I'll check the ATX connector (again)
[18:55] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> any more recommendations before I disconnect and I open my computer?
[18:56] <mcphail> SaltyKawaiiNeko: check the voltages from your PSU as well (you'll need a voltmeter and a paperclip)
[18:56] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> I have to shut down this computer down and I don't have more at this moment, I'll lose connection to this IRC channel. I'm waiting for messages before I quit.
[18:59] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> mcphail: these are my voltages measured using HWMonitor: https://i.gyazo.com/0b817af244ca2ae59af3d9c339baee30.png. (Columns are: Value / Min / Max)
[19:02] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> mcphail: what do you think?
[19:04] <mcphail> SaltyKawaiiNeko: You can never trust software to check a PSU voltage. You'll need a voltmeter
[19:04] <elias_a> SaltyKawaiiNeko: IMHO the 3.3 voltage is way too low, 5V and -5V are clearly out of range, too.
[19:04] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> mcphail: understood
[19:05] <elias_a> mcphail: That is true. And a proper voltmeter.
[19:05] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> umm and what if voltages are bad? what does that mean? faulty PSU?
[19:05] <mcphail> SaltyKawaiiNeko: yes
[19:06] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> umm... :/
[19:06] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> this is not a cheap psu...
[19:09] <elias_a> SaltyKawaiiNeko: There's a thing called warranty.
[19:11] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> i know, but I obviously hope that i don't have to go into that mess
[19:12] <elias_a> SaltyKawaiiNeko: You don't want to go on using a faulty PSU, either...
[19:12] <longxia> did i miss a patch or update on tcpdump from ubuntu or did they miss the last new version from januari 18th? Also, ubuntu seems to have made the security notices a bit harder to find since a few months.
[19:12] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> elias_a: yeah. want i want is a working PC, but with my luck...
[19:18] <ioria> mcphail, http://i.imgur.com/9PxmwLt.jpg    it takes almost the same ram of ff
[19:18] <lord4163> Anyone here that runs wordpress?
[19:19] <lord4163> Was working in the admin panel and it crashed :/
[19:20] <BlueShark> lord4163: try #wordpress
[19:21] <lord4163> BlueShark: Will do, seems like MySQL crashes o.0
[19:21] <BlueShark> Then #mysql maybe.
[19:21] <lord4163> Suspect the OOM killer
[19:21] <mcphail> ioria: yes, the Web Content thing seems to be associated with firefox. No idea why I'm seeing such silly CPU usage, though
[19:22] <ioria> mcphail, good spot, btw
[19:22] <lord4163> BlueShark: Been running Tor on there too, probably out of memory on the VPS.
[19:22] <lord4163> [103923.414141] Killed process 1676 (mysqld) total-vm:1105516kB, anon-rss:147772kB, file-rss:0kB
[19:22] <lord4163> There we go
[19:23] <BlueShark> Are we talking about a Desktop machine or a Serveer?
[19:23] <lord4163> VPS
[19:23] <ioria> mcphail, it's now taking 65% cpu
[19:24] <Jharm> hi, i was hopping to get a littel help, i was setting up a VPN. But ever time i try to connect from client side i get this error: TLS Error: cannot locate HMAC in incoming packet, not sure whats wrong
[19:24] <lord4163> Jharm: OpenVPN?
[19:24] <Jharm> yes
[19:24] <lord4163> Jharm: Oh you must use the tls-auth directive
[19:24] <Jharm> try to connect from windows to linux box
[19:24] <mcphail> ioria: I know people moan about ff being a cpu and memory hog, but I've never had problems until now
[19:25] <Jharm> i think i did: i un comment in server. conf and base.conf
[19:26] <lord4163> Jharm: I set up OpenVPN yesterday, and had to use tls-auth ta.key
[19:26] <lord4163> key-directionn 1
[19:26] <ioria> mcphail, can you please go to www.google.com   and check it again in top ? tx
[19:27] <Jharm> should it be a specific path, for example: tls-auth /etc/user/openvpn-ca/keys/ta.key
[19:27] <Jharm> or just tls-auth ta.key
[19:28] <mcphail> ioria: I get redirected to google.co.uk, but still getting > 20% CPU
[19:28] <Jharm> yes lord key-direction is set to 1
[19:28] <lord4163> Jharm: yes specific path ;)
[19:28] <lord4163> Jharm: In your ovpn profile too?
[19:28] <Jharm> ok let me see if thats my issue
[19:28] <ioria> mcphail, thanx... i think we have a problem
[19:28] <Jharm> yes ok
[19:28] <mcphail> ioria: back to < 2% if I sign in to google
[19:29] <Jharm> i think did it correctly maybe thier is a typo
[19:29] <Jharm> tx
[19:29] <ioria> mcphail, interesting
[19:31] <lord4163> Jharm: Yes, awesome! :)
[19:32] <lord4163> Jharm: can you check one thing for me?
[19:32] <Jharm> oh sure
[19:32] <lord4163> Jharm: are you on Ubuntu 16.04?
[19:32] <Jharm> yes
[19:33] <lord4163> Jharm: systemctl status openvpn@server
[19:34] <lord4163> Jharm: do you get an error there about pid a file?
[19:34] <lord4163> about a pid file*?
[19:36] <saitoh183> is version ver 3.0.0 of fuse available via apt install?
[19:37] <Jharm> a few errors: TLS Error: TLS key negociation fail
[19:37] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> i'm going to measure the voltages
[19:37] <SaltyKawaiiNeko> see you guys :/
[19:37] <Jharm> TLS handshake failed
[19:38] <Jharm> and readiing acknowledgement
[19:38] <Jharm> dont sdee pid file error
[19:38] <lord4163> Jharm: That must be old, but do journalctl -u openvpn@Bilberry-Traffic | grep PID
[19:39] <lord4163> I got this weird error, but that pops up sometimes.
[19:39] <lord4163> openvpn@Bilberry-Traffic.service: PID file /run/openvpn/Bilberry-Traffic.pid not readable (yet?) after start: No such file or directory
[19:40] <Jharm> wierd nothing happens with that command
[19:40] <lord4163> Jharm: Oh then you haven't gotten that error
[19:40] <lord4163> It may just be me
[19:40] <Jharm> yes it must
[19:41] <Jharm> my issue must be with tls path as mentioned before
[19:41] <BlueShark> Hi, I'm facing RAM issues on Google Chrome (running Ubuntu 16.10). Anyone else having the same issue?
[19:44] <Jharm> i have two ta.key files one in ~/openvpn-ca/keys/ and other in /etc/openvpn, with one should i use?
[19:45] <lord4163> Jharm: the one referenced in your config file :D
[19:45] <clissold345> saitoh183, check http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[19:46] <anonymous_> hello
[19:46] <saitoh183> ok..it is tstill 2.9.7
[19:46] <Jharm> ok thanks a bunch for all your hlep
[19:46] <Jharm> hlep
[19:47] <anonymous_> help
[19:47] <lord4163> Jharm: You can just remove that key, you probably generated it in the wrong directory.
[19:47] <anonymous_> &help
[19:48] <lord4163> Jharm: the one in /etc/openvpn
[19:48] <radialneon> Hello, I've recently started using Ubuntu 16.04.1 and noticed that the sound is a little strange. At some moments, the speaker volume is too loud, at others it's too low. Any tips on how I might investigate this?
[19:49] <Jharm> good thinking
[19:49] <mcphail> ioria: there's a profiler in ff. If I log in to google, ff is spending 96% of time in the "Gecko" function and CPU usage is low. If I'm not logged into google, Gecko is only at 66% and "Graphics" is at 21%. Do you see similar?
[19:52] <ioria> mcphail, same 25% logged or not ....
[19:53] <mcphail> ioria: hmm
[19:53] <ioria> mcphail, wait ...
[19:54] <fishcooker> anyone get issue with scrambled X if we using ubuntu in long time... im used to use many GNU screen open, and tab browser open... after i automatically logout then login again i got the scrambled window with unreadable text
[19:54] <ioria> mcphail,  right, now stable at 0.3 (if logged)
[19:54] <fishcooker> anyone got the same issue there?
[19:54] <clissold345> !sound | radialneon
[19:54] <glache> hi
[19:55] <glache>  How can I change the 'quick flash of the default login screen' that I see right before my new login screen shows?  It kind of flashed the old one for a second.
[19:57] <mcphail> ioria: if I look at the "waterfall" plot in the profiler, it is mainly "paint" and "recalculate style" events which are being spammed if not logged in. Far fewer of these when logged in
[19:59] <ioria> mcphail,  i wonder what it might be ... i'am on a simple dual-core i cannot afford such a loss
[20:00] <mcphail> ioria: same here. Only notices it because my PS2 emulator was stutering. Can't interrupt Gran Turismo!
[20:01] <mcphail> ioria: I'm going to try the upstream ff
[20:01] <glache> Why when I copy files, does it change them from executable to non-executable?
[20:01] <bekks> glache: what is the source filesystem and what is the target filesystem?
[20:02] <glache> I'm coping from my home directory on one PC, to a flash drive, to the home directory on another PC
[20:03] <bekks> glache: Which filesystem is on the flash drive?
[20:03] <ioria> mcphail,  oky
[20:03] <glache> Ext4
[20:04] <al9898> hello:) Does anyone know why a usb wireless network adapter will not automatically connect to a network upon startup, but will connect without me taking any actions once i simply remove the usb adapter and reinsert it?
[20:04] <alkisg> al9898: go to the connection properties, is it marked as available for all users?
[20:05] <bekks> glache: And where in that two-phase copy process the permissions get lost?
[20:05] <Aleatheri> Thanks, clissold345 (former radialneon here)
[20:05] <glache> When I copy to the flash drive
[20:05] <bekks> glache: So what are the mount options of that flash drive?
[20:06] <alkisg> glache: if you mount the drive with sudo, does it work? because afaik udisks uses special mount options
[20:06] <glache> How can I mount with sudo?
[20:06] <bekks> glache: You dont. Just tell us what the current mount options are :)
[20:07] <glache> When I plug it in, it automatically mounts
[20:07] <alkisg> Why not? It's just an umount/sudo mount away...
[20:07] <bekks> glache: So what are the mount options?
[20:07] <mcphail> ioria: upstream is still bad, although CPU usage and the "Graphics" blame in the profiler are both about 5% less
[20:07] <alkisg> The mount options used to be hardcoded in udisks.c... had to recompile to change them
[20:07] <alkisg> I haven't checked udisks2
[20:07] <bekks> alkisg: because try&error isnt necessary, "mount" will tell us everything we need to know. :)
[20:07] <glache> I was wrong, it's actually msdos partition.
[20:08] <ioria> mcphail,  i see... i'am trying the same
[20:08] <alkisg> Hehe
[20:08] <bekks> glache: The partition type is irrelevant. The filsystem type is.
[20:08] <glache> Sorry, that is the filesystem type.
[20:08] <al9898> alkisg: yes i even have the password stored for  all users
[20:08] <mcphail> ioria: I'm going to have to take the dog out a walk, but I'll check my /awaylog when I'm back. Let me know how you get on
[20:08] <bekks> glache: So thats the reason why the permissions are lost. vfat doesnt support linux permissions.
[20:09] <ioria> mcphail,  ok
[20:09] <alkisg> al9898: can you try to logout so that you are in the login screen (lightdm), *then* insert the stick, then login, and see if it works then?
[20:09] <glache> ohhh, alright, looks like I'll have to use another flash drive or reformat this one.  ty
[20:12] <ZoderUck> hi
[20:12] <al9898> yes it works then it works even if i don't logout if i simply pull the adapter our and plug it back in
[20:13] <alkisg> al9898: the second one would work even if it was a user connection; the first one means it's an issue with the boot process
[20:14] <alkisg> al9898: so to sum up, if you boot  to login screen, then insert stick, then login, it works, but if you boot with the stick preinserted, it doesn't, right?
[20:16] <al9898> yes
[20:17] <alkisg> OK, sounds like an issue with network-manager to me
[20:17] <alkisg> I'd file a bug report...
[20:17] <al9898> ok i will do that
[20:18] <al9898> had one ready to go but wanted to know if someone had a solution before i did
[20:18] <ioria> mcphail,  mainstream i think is better ...
[20:20] <al9898> alkisg: im using a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 it never did it on my old ubuntu 14.04 so ijm definately goign to fiel the bug report
[20:21] <alkisg> al9898: another thing to try would be, sudo service-network-manager stop, while inside the user session, then plug stick, then start nm, and see if it connects
[20:22] <al9898> alkisg: ok will try
[20:23] <ropo> so i have set ownership to myself and the root how do i remove myself?
[20:23] <bekks> ropo: ownership of what? And what exactly did you?
[20:24] <ropo> of a directory
[20:24] <lord4163> ropo: how do you remove yourself from what?
[20:24] <ropo> chown -R me ~/usr/{some directories}
[20:25] <bekks> ropo: Which directories in particular?
[20:25] <OerHeks> chown root:root
[20:25] <ropo> then i realised i messed up, and chown -R me ~/usr/{lib/node_modules, bin, local}
[20:25] <ropo> then i realised i messed up, and chown -R root ~/usr/{lib/node_modules, bin, local}
[20:26] <lord4163> ropo: that won't work, remove the spaces
[20:26] <lord4163> ropo: and usr is located in your home dir?
[20:26] <bekks> ropo: are you talking about /usr/... or ~/usr/... ?
[20:26] <ropo> sorry /usr
[20:28] <ropo> to be precise, i did sudo chown -R $(whoami) $(npm config get prefix)/{lib/node_modules,bin,share}
[20:28] <ropo> `-rwxr-xr-x  1 ubuntu root      155008 Oct 14 16:02 sudo` this thing concerns me
[20:29] <ropo> ubuntu = my usernmae
[20:29] <ropo> bekks: yes /usr
[20:30] <bekks> ropo: I'd restore a backup or reinstall that thing then.
[20:31] <ropo> bekks backup of what?
[20:31] <bekks> ropo: BAckup of what you messed up.
[20:32] <ropo> but i have messed up the /usr
[20:32] <bekks> ropo: Yes. So restore your backup of /usr
[20:32] <ropo> how do i do that?
[20:32] <lord4163> ropo: You just change the permissions back using chown, or what is your goal?
[20:32] <bekks> ropo: How did you create your backup before?
[20:32] <ropo> i never did
[20:33] <bekks> ropo: So its nothing worth to be kept. Just reinstall then.
[20:33] <muzmmil> hi can anybody help me installing offline wikipedia on RPI?
[20:33] <ropo> the os?
[20:33] <bekks> ropo: Yes.
[20:33] <ropo> bah!
[20:34] <OerHeks> using proper full root:root would do > sudo chown -R root:root $(npm config get prefix)/{lib/node_modules,bin,share}
[20:35] <xrandr_laptop> Hi there
[20:35] <xrandr_laptop> I just installed 16.04 desktop on my laptop. Things tend to run a little slow. Is there a way I can speed up the response time on my laptop?
[20:35] <bekks> xrandr_laptop: Which CPU do you have and how much RAM do you have?
[20:36] <lord4163> ropo: or you just explain to us what your problem is, we don't have crystal balls!
[20:37] <xrandr_laptop> 3.4 gb ram, AMD E1-1500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2 processor
[20:37] <ropo> i changed the ownership of /usr to root and myself
[20:37] <bekks> ropo: Either to root or to yourself.
[20:38] <ropo> sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
[20:38] <ropo> i got this ^
[20:38] <lifeforms> I have quite the predicament on an ancient box that I do-release-upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04: rsyslog is no longer logging everything (userspace programs/logger/postfix for instance. kernel does log). I compared /etc/rsyslog.conf, /etc/rsyslog.d, and dpkg -l|grep syslog between the upgraded box and a clean one, they're the same. from a forum thread, I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure rsyslog and afterwards sudo apt-get install --reinstall rsyslog which h
[20:38] <muzmmil> wikipedia offline on RPI .....raspbian os???
[20:38] <bekks> ropo: you changed the owner, not the permissions, did you?
[20:38] <ropo> yes
[20:39] <bekks> ropo: So set the owner as you have been told above :)
[20:39] <ropo> ok, what about the sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set ?
[20:39] <lord4163> ropo: That is NOT describing your problem/goal, that is describing an action.
[20:39] <bekks> ropo: root has uid 0.
[20:40] <xrandr_laptop> bekks, that's the info you requested
[20:40] <tomreyn> xrandr_laptop: hmm that's a rather slow CPU. about RA: 3.4 GB sounds like you are runing a 32-bit OS?
[20:40] <xrandr_laptop> tomreyn, it's running 64 bit actually
[20:41] <bekks> xrandr_laptop: your cpu is a very slow one.
[20:41] <xrandr_laptop> bekks, yeah the laptop is kinda old. About 6 years old
[20:41] <SchrodingersScat> !flavors | xrandr_laptop, you can try different flavors of ubuntu.  I happen to go with xubuntu more often than not, but lubuntu is supposedly even lighter.
[20:42] <xrandr_laptop> ugh, I don't want to reinstall :(
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> that's up to you
[20:42] <mcphail> ioria: yes, slightly better. Still not perfect, though
[20:42] <xrandr_laptop> I guess I'll just have to live with this for awhile. I just spent the better part of 2 hours setting this laptop up the way I like it
[20:43] <tomreyn> xrandr_laptop: there's no need to reinstall, there are meta packages to switch between flavors.
[20:43] <ropo> so i did, sudo chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[20:43] <ropo> and it says: sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
[20:43] <mcphail> ioria: don't see the same issue with Chrome
[20:44] <alkisg> $ sudo find /usr ! -uid 0 ==> /usr/bin/at
[20:44] <alkisg> $ ls -lha /usr/bin/at ==> -rwsr-sr-x 1 daemon daemon 50K Ιαν  15  2016 /usr/bin/at
[20:44] <alkisg> ropo, this ^ is the only thing I have in /usr not owned by root
[20:44] <alkisg> The setuid bit is about permissions, not owner
[20:44] <ropo> alkisg: so what should i do?
[20:45] <ioria> mcphail, yes, after a reboot is still consuming memory, but cpu is ok   (confused)
[20:45] <alkisg> ropo: first, restore at to the proper owner. Then, think why the permissions were changed...
[20:45] <xrandr_laptop> tomreyn, are there instructions for this?
[20:45] <mcphail> ioria: hmm. I'll try a reboot
[20:45] <ioria> mcphail, yes, please
[20:45] <bekks> xrandr_laptop: sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop   <-- for installing xubuntu, e.g.
[20:45] <xrandr_laptop> ok thanks
[20:45] <xrandr_laptop> brb
[20:45] <ropo> alkisg: just to make sure, everything under /usr is supposed to be owned by root, right?
[20:45] <alkisg> ropo, everything except at
[20:46] <alkisg> ropo, at least in my normal installation
[20:46] <alkisg> ropo, if you have any weird packages, you might have other files not owned by root there
[20:46] <adalbert> Hi, question, Does anyone know of an elegant way to redirect dhcp users of a wifi hotspot to a login page on apache2.  I got the redirect working for the http protocol , but https keeps complaining about Certificate Authorization ...
[20:46] <alkisg> ropo, sudo should be like this: $ ls -lha /usr/bin/sudo ==> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 157K Αύγ  17 16:19 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:46] <xrandr_laptop> and back
[20:46] <alkisg> ropo, but it's not the only one; if you somehow changed the permissions, there are others files to check
[20:46] <xrandr_laptop> wanted to change my Hexchat theme :)
[20:47] <tomreyn> xrandr_laptop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306282/can-i-change-my-ubuntu-install-into-a-different-flavour-like-kubuntu#answers
[20:47] <mcphail> ioria: no improvement for me
[20:48] <ioria> mcphail, no answer on #firefox
[20:48] <bekks> ioria: How long did you wait there?
[20:48] <mcphail> ioria: yes. Saw you'd joined. I asked earlier and just got the usual "try safe mode" answer
[20:48] <test12345|2> so is anybody using handbrakecli on ubuntu 16.04? just wanted to try it on my tiny server, but sudo apt-get install handbrake-cli  seems to only give me some man pages
[20:48] <ioria> bekks, to be honest, not much
[20:49] <bekks> ropo: a very few packages install file under /usr which arent owned by root. A very very few.
[20:49] <mcphail> bekks: I've been there for a couple of hours
[20:50] <ropo> bekks: i see
[20:50] <ropo> omg i can't sudo now
[20:50] <ropo> :(
[20:50] <bekks> ropo: what did you do?
[20:51] <ex-novo> ayy lmao
[20:51] <lord4163> ropo: use su
[20:51] <ropo> bekks: whenever is sudo  i get sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
[20:51] <bekks> lord4163: root has no pw by default, so he cant use su.
[20:52] <lord4163> bekks: ah :D
[20:52] <ioria> mcphail, sy, cannot help any further
[20:52] <bekks> ropo: So show us the output of "ls -lha /usr/bin/sudo" then.
[20:52] <lord4163> ropo: boot from live usb and fix it
[20:52] <ropo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 ubuntu root 152K Oct 14 16:02 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:52] <ropo> lord4163: i am on a server :)
[20:52] <ropo> :(
[20:53] <bekks> ropo: You need to reboot from a live cd/usb and fix it.
[20:53] <lord4163> ropo: VPS?
[20:53] <adalbert> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 136808 Aug 17 15:20 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:53] <ropo> aws
[20:54] <mcphail> ioria: thanks for looking :)
[20:54] <ioria> mcphail, np
[20:54] <ropo> can't we just chmod or chown?
[20:54] <bekks> ropo: No.
[20:54] <adalbert> su?
[20:54] <bekks> adalbert: root has no pw set by default, so no su.
[20:55] <adalbert> right
[20:56] <ropo> damn.
[20:56] <tekeli-li> What options exist, if any, to interact with my fruity i-devices in Ubuntu?
[20:56] <lord4163> tekeli-li: syncthinng
[20:56] <Simonious> is it tough to get ubuntu with no GUI?  does that question even make sense?
[20:57] <Simonious> I've got a machine I want to setup for shell use only
[20:57] <Simonious> it'll run headless most of the time
[20:57] <bekks> Simonious: Just install the server variant, done.
[20:57] <lord4163> tekeli-li: or not
[20:57] <Simonious> bekks: thanks
[20:57] <Bashing-om> !minimal | Simonious
[20:57] <zykotick9> Simonious: or mini, and don't select a desktop environment
[20:57] <tekeli-li> lord4163, thanks, i'll look into it.
[20:57] <k1l_> Simonious: server and desktop share the same kernel and base system. so install the server version and you can start using it wihtout a desktop.
[20:57] <lord4163> tekeli-li: I was wrong actually :(
[20:58] <Simonious> I'm planning to set this machine up as a NAS, I tried freeNAS, don't like it.  Considering arch, but leaning ubuntu.
[20:58] <cybex_> hi all, I am completely lost. I am trying to setup a linux box as a router. I have enabled port forwarding. I have added iptable rules to forward traffic between interfaces. I have setup interfaces with static ip's and metrics where the actual router gatway is the lowest, did I miss anything?
[20:59] <Simonious> a couple of you said server, a couple of you said mini/minimal - Should I be leaning more towards one of those and why?
[20:59] <StuckMojo> so i'm trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04.1 and i'm getting "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." How do i tell what packages are tripping it up?
[20:59] <k1l_> Simonious: you want a server install
[21:00] <Simonious> k1l_: ty
[21:00] <bekks> Simonious: they all share the same kernel. The just differ by the installed package sets.
[21:00] <zacwalls> Would I be able to format a 1 TB HDD as NTFS and mount it like a filesystem?
[21:00] <zacwalls> *as a
[21:00] <k1l_> StuckMojo: might be an 3rd party package or a PPA making issues. you should look into the logs from the updater
[21:00] <Bashing-om> Simonious: As k1l_ said, does not matter . both share the same base .
[21:01] <k1l_> StuckMojo: "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:01] <Simonious> Next question: I've got two 1T drives and two 2T drives I want to use for the NAS, I'm planning to go straight mirroring software RAID for 3T of storage PLUS a ~300G OS/boot drive - any reason that is a bad plan?
[21:01] <bekks> Simonious: For the OS, 10G are sufficient.
[21:02] <StuckMojo> k1l_: http://termbin.com/32ky
[21:02] <k1l_> zacwalls: yes, you can format and use ntfs. but you can only use that as data partitions, not as system partitions
[21:02] <Simonious> bekks: Alright, I probably have a smaller drive laying around
[21:02] <bekks> Simonious: you dont need a separate drive, actually :)
[21:02] <zacwalls> k1l_, a data partition?
[21:03] <Simonious> bekks: I know, but I like the idea of the OS and the data store being seperate
[21:03] <k1l_> zacwalls: you can run the ubuntu system on that
[21:03] <StuckMojo> k1l_: i think this is from more than one attempt
[21:03] <bekks> Simonious: And you like the idea of not mirroring your OS, too?
[21:03] <StuckMojo> k1l_: let me clear the file and try again so i get just a single list
[21:04] <zacwalls> k1l_, but I wouldn't be able to store files on it?
[21:04] <k1l_> StuckMojo: no. i hav to think about itt a bit, wait
[21:04] <k1l_> zacwalls: sure. that is what a data partition is for
[21:04] <Simonious> bekks: The OS is quickly replaceable, heck I can boot off a USB stick
[21:04] <bekks> Simonious: So dont waste a drive for it then :)
[21:04] <StuckMojo> k1l_: too late ;)
[21:04] <zacwalls> k1l_, oh so I have it backwards :)
[21:04] <zacwalls> perfect
[21:04]  * Simonious thinks
[21:05] <Simonious> I do have another question
[21:05] <Simonious> does mirroring tell you when a drive fails?
[21:05] <Simonious> I think that is the wrong question..  How do I track drive health?
[21:05] <k1l_> StuckMojo: "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:05] <bekks> Simonious: You need to monitor it, yes.
[21:05] <Arkikas> hello
[21:06] <StuckMojo> http://termbin.com/iw22
[21:06] <StuckMojo> k1l_: the list was just as big anyway
[21:06] <k1l_> StuckMojo: 2017-02-04 15:05:17,529 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'postgresql-plperl-9.1' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'
[21:06] <k1l_> that is the cause, afaik
[21:06] <StuckMojo> aha, yes i see it
[21:07] <StuckMojo> i can kill that
[21:08] <k1l_> StuckMojo: and whatever "nerolinux" is
[21:08] <StuckMojo> k1l_: binary cd/dvd burner
[21:08] <StuckMojo> commercial crap. i can dump that too
[21:13] <lifeforms> Simonious: smartmontools is good for monitoring drive health with SMART
[21:13] <Simonious> lifeforms: ty :)
[21:13] <StuckMojo> k1l_: thanks
[21:14] <xrandr_laptop> brb
[21:15] <xrandr_laptop> ooh, better theme :)
[21:16] <StuckMojo> k1l_: so, i'm not sure removing that is going to help. i installed postgres from the official postgres apt repo
[21:16] <ropo> how do i enter recovery mode from command line
[21:16] <StuckMojo> i think that repo is being disabled as part of the upgrade process, so it wants to remove all those packages
[21:16] <StuckMojo> any way around that?
[21:16] <StuckMojo> i.e. i think if i remove that 9.1 plerl, it will complain about a different one
[21:17] <StuckMojo> i mean, in a pinch i can remove all the pg packages and just reinstall them after the upgrade...
[21:18] <bekks> ropo: you need to do that in the grub prompt.
[21:19] <ropo> bekks:  and how do i do that?
[21:19] <ropo> you mean on start up?
[21:19] <k1l_> StuckMojo: did you disable universe repo?
[21:20] <bekks> ropo: right before booting, in the bootloader, yes.
[21:20] <StuckMojo> k1l_: not explicitly
[21:20] <k1l_> please look at it if its disabled.
[21:20] <k1l_> make sure universe and security are not disabled
[21:21] <StuckMojo> k1l_: it is not, currently
[21:21] <ropo> thanks bekks and lord4163
[21:22] <StuckMojo> yeah so the PGDG apt repo does have xenial packages..
[21:22] <StuckMojo> so i think if i could get it not to disable that repo during the upgrade, it would go smoothly
[21:22] <k1l_> pgdg?
[21:22] <lord4163> ropo: you press shift when it boots, that will open grub
[21:23] <StuckMojo> postgres development group
[21:23] <lord4163> the grub menu*
[21:23] <bekks> lord4163: He's on a AWS instance. No remote console.
[21:23] <StuckMojo> http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/
[21:23] <k1l_> StuckMojo: uh, so its not the ubuntu package but a 3rd party one
[21:23] <StuckMojo> yes, sort of
[21:24] <ropo> lord4163: thanks but i am on a remote server
[21:24] <ropo> aws
[21:24] <k1l_> no, if its not from the ubuntu repos its a 3rd party one.
[21:24] <StuckMojo> pgdg takes the official debs and builds them for all debian and ubuntu releases, in all supported PG versions
[21:24] <bekks> ropo: So reinstall.
[21:24] <ropo> btw can we tell them to reinstall?
[21:24] <StuckMojo> so that you're not stuck with whatever pg version the distro thinks you must have
[21:24] <k1l_> StuckMojo: the packages in the ubuntu repos get automated testings. so that 3rd party install is what the upgrade breaks.
[21:25] <k1l_> StuckMojo: so revert that package to the official state and the upgrade will work
[21:25] <lord4163> ropo: Ah, I don't have any experience with AWS.
[21:25] <k1l_> StuckMojo: btw ubuntu offers postgresql-plperl-9.3 for 14.04
[21:25] <StuckMojo> k1l_: that's the point, there aren't official packages of those versions. that's why the pgdg repo exists
[21:25] <glache> 14/f/cali
[21:25] <bekks> glache: Wrong networl.
[21:25] <StuckMojo> i'm a pg developer. i need many versions
[21:25] <corelectronic> How can I make windows operating system again?
[21:26] <StuckMojo> anyway. so there's no way to get it not to disable that repo during the upgrade? which means i'm stuck unintalling and reinstalling those packages
[21:26] <lord4163> ropo: DigitalOcean has an HTML5 console and doesn't cost a fortune and you can take snapshots of the machine.
[21:26] <k1l_> StuckMojo: no, the point is ubuntu cant handle 3rd party packages and guarantee a smooth upgrade.
[21:26] <glache> lol, jk, sorry
[21:26] <corelectronic> HEY MY FRİENDS ?
[21:26] <corelectronic>  How can I make windows operating system again?
[21:26] <ropo> lord4163: does it listen to key events?
[21:26] <StuckMojo> k1l_: i understand what you're saying
[21:27] <k1l_> StuckMojo: ok.
[21:27] <ropo> keyboard*
[21:27] <StuckMojo> k1l_: i'm just looking for a way to force it ;) if it breaks, i'll keep both pieces
[21:27] <lord4163> ropo: what do you mean?
[21:27] <lord4163> ropo: yes?
[21:27] <k1l_> StuckMojo: you could use ppa-purge to revert to the ubuntu state of the package so the repo doesnt break the upgrade
[21:27] <corelectronic> ANANIZIN AMI AQ
[21:27] <corelectronic> TÜRK YOKMU LAN BURDA AMQ
[21:28] <corelectronic> OÇLAR
[21:28] <ropo> like will it be like a general monitor?
[21:28] <StuckMojo> k1l_: i'll just uninstall them and put them back after
[21:28] <tgm4883> StuckMojo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/147080/comments/9
[21:28] <StuckMojo> tgm4883: oh sweet
[21:29] <lord4163> ropo: Yes, you see it boot. Sign up using https://m.do.co/c/4c0dbd9339dc and you get $10 for free
[21:29] <ropo> lord4163: anyways, leave it, getting a new server ;(
[21:30] <bekks> ropo: Why not just reinstall that thing, finally?
[21:30] <bekks> ropo: you could have done that two hours ago already.
[21:31] <ropo> bekks: how do i reinstall?
[21:31] <bekks> ropo: BY asking the AWS support to initiate a reinstall.
[21:31] <ropo> do they do that?
[21:31] <bekks> ropo: Ask them?
[21:33] <tomreyn> i don't think there is something called "AWS support"
[21:34] <bekks> tomreyn: At least there is some place where he got his AWS instance from.
[21:34] <bekks> tomreyn: Thats the place to go to now :)
[21:34] <tomreyn> yes, probably the AMI repository
[21:34] <dh128> hello! i want to know if it's worth making a PPA for a script + related files I intend to host
[21:34] <StuckMojo> tgm4883: BAM! that did it, thanks! i left only the pgdg repo enabled, i let it disable all the others. and i edited that one by hand to point it to xenial befor running the upgrade tool
[21:34] <StuckMojo> now it's happy
[21:34] <StuckMojo> k1l_: thanks as well
[21:36] <reisio> dh128: you already established it's worth your time since you clearly want to do it, and people clearly want you to, or so you said
[21:37] <dh128> reisio: im still new to linux in general
[21:37] <dh128> reisio: if it's more hassle than it's worth then i'd just redirect people to the github page
[21:37] <reisio> dh128: oh, well
[21:37] <reisio> I think probably if you weigh the ease of installing a ppa
[21:37] <reisio> vs the ease of running a script you put on github
[21:37] <reisio> you may as well go with the latter
[21:38] <reisio> for this particular thing
[21:38] <reisio> you can put sudo apt-get install blah lines into your script if you want
[21:39] <dh128> reisio: yeah i think i'll do that
[21:40] <dh128> it's only 4 commands anyway
[21:42] <reisio> dh128: too right
[21:42] <reisio> sh ftw
[21:42] <reisio> I wrote all of Eurasia in sh
[21:42] <reisio> that's why it's so robust
[21:43] <dh128> yeah
[21:43] <dh128> still can't believe google got me this far
[21:43] <dh128> 3 days ago i didn't know what a hashbang was
[21:46] <reisio> I think 'shebang' is older, so I use that
[21:46] <reisio> but we should really think of an altogether funnier-still name for it
[21:51] <weever> hi guys
[21:52] <reisio> hi wee
[21:52] <reisio> by wee
[21:52] <pos> If I dd an ubuntu iso onto a flashdrive or use grub isoloop the installer will fail at mounting the install media (since there is no ODD or media). anyone found a way to beat this?
[21:56] <reisio> ODD?
[21:59] <pos> optical disc drive
[21:59] <reisio> pos: what actually happens after you dd the image and boot the flash drive?
[22:00] <pos> installer runs but fail at detecting and mounting the install media
[22:00] <reisio> can you be more specific?
[22:01] <pos> well, it can't detect an install disk since there is no ODD and no media to mount :)
[22:03] <reisio> that statement is somewhat at odds with your other statement 'installer runs'
[22:04] <pos> well, ofc the curses installer runs (using server iso/media), i set up language, keyboard layout and then it fails at finding and mounting install media
[22:05] <reisio> the curses installer?
[22:05] <reisio> you using the minimal?
[22:18] <pos> reisio, server installer, the text, boxes and colors gui
[22:18] <zg34> omg
[22:23] <aruns> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 16.04. Just noticed that getting sound from the left speaker but not the right. Checked alsamixer and couldn't find any channels that would have been related to the right speaker, so wonder if there's a setting I need to change in any of the .conf files for pulseaudio?
[22:23] <aruns> Or maybe it could be some sort of permissions issue?
[22:23] <k1l_> aruns: or maybe its a cable/hardware issue? :)
[22:23] <aruns> k1l_: It was working fine earlier today.
[22:24] <aruns> I will give you some of my hardware info.
[22:24] <aruns> I get HDA Intel at 0xf6afc000 irq 30 running cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:24] <daniel-4> Anyone know about a rootkit that Rkhunter found? kWARN-- [rootkit004w] Chkrootkit has detected a possible rootkit installation Possible Linux/Ebury - Operation Windigo installed
[22:24] <tgm4883> aruns: contrary to popular belief, things don't usually just break randomly. What changed from when it was working earlier?
[22:25] <StuckMojo> tgm4883: k1l_: thanks again
[22:25] <StuckMojo> ciao
[22:26] <k1l_> daniel-4: you still need to look into the issues rkhunter is finding yourself. its not a "one click and everything is done automatically". rkhunter brings up a lot of false positives
[22:26] <aruns> tgm4883: Nothing really, I removed a few Vagrant boxes and was doing some work with the JVM through Scala and Java.
[22:27] <aruns> tgm4883: Oh, I also installed vim-gnome.
[22:27] <aruns> That's the only package I installed today.
[22:27] <aruns> I don't know whether that package is to blame or not.
[22:28] <tgm4883> aruns: laptop/desktop? You've tested the audio in the sound settings for each channel? You've checked the cableing didn't come unplugged (or halfway unplugged)
[22:28] <aruns> tgm4883: Dell Latitude E5400 laptop. I've checked under the Sound Settings GUI and on Alsamixer.
[22:28] <daniel-4> kil_: not sure I only installed Ubuntu now and ran it as it showed in previous install.
[22:29] <aruns> I've tested on two separate earphones.
[22:29] <tgm4883> aruns: have you tried the built in speakers?
[22:29] <aruns> tgm4883: Will do that now
[22:30] <k1l_> daniel-4: as i said: you have to rule out the "positives" from rkhunter if they are false positives or real issues manually. for your "issue"https://www.cert-bund.de/ebury-faq  i guess its just a false positive by rkhunter.
[22:30] <aruns> tgm4883: Plays on both channels with built in speakers.
[22:31] <tgm4883> aruns: you've checked that you don't have some gunk/fuzz/lint in your 3.5mm port?
[22:31] <daniel-4> kil_: ok thanks
[22:31] <aruns> tgm4883: I can't really much in the port.
[22:31] <aruns> *really see much
[22:32] <aruns> tgm4883: And it's playing on the left bud when earphones connected, just not the right.
[22:32] <aruns> But maybe worth cleaning out the 3.5mm port at some point then, I guess?
[22:32] <aruns> Just to be on the safe side.
[22:32] <tgm4883> aruns: yes
[22:33] <aruns> OK, thanks.
[22:40] <ubuntuuser> Hello I have a problem I am trying to move the bios update into my /boot/efi folder so that I can upgrade my dell xps13 bios however I cannot get permission to move anything into the folder I have tried chown and chmod any ideas ?
[22:41] <tgm4883> ubuntuuser: have you tried sudo?
[22:44] <ubuntuuser> tgm4883: yes
[22:44] <OerHeks> sudo cp should work , http://askubuntu.com/questions/676594/flashing-bios-update-on-dell-xps-13-2015
[22:45] <ubuntuuser> tgm4883: it says operation not permitted
[22:45] <tgm4883> ubuntuuser: can you pastebin the command and output you had?
[22:45] <k1l_> wasnt that changed due to some software removing the stuff inside the uefi folder firmware?
[22:46] <journal> so do you guys think snap packages will take off and do you believe they are break proof unlike apt
[22:46] <tgm4883> journal: what is break proof?
[22:46] <k1l_> journal: this channel is for technical issues only. for talk/polls better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for technical issues ask in #snappy
[22:47] <journal> k
[22:47] <k1l_> journal: and snap packages are already in use and the ubuntu touch is changing to use snap pacakges instead of the the old click packages
[22:48] <ubuntuuser> tgm4883: pastebin.com/YeELKppU
[22:49] <tgm4883> ubuntuuser: no, 'sudo cp filename /boot/efi/'
[22:52] <ubuntuuser> tgm4883: duh thanks mate!
[23:16] <glache> Can I recursively list all executable files in a directory?
[23:17] <glache> find . -perm /u=x,g=x,o=x
[23:17] <hankle> Hey, I have a fresh install of 16.04 LTS and can't seem to get anything to work. I've tried setting it as a static which gets me the "up and down" arrow rather than searching. However, when I try to ping my gateway (or any other local machines) I get destination unreachable errors. I feel like I've exhausted a lot of the options I have and am wondering if there's something else I should try
[23:18] <hankle> sorry, I can't seem to get a wired connection to work
[23:26] <StuckMojo> what's the preferred terminal on xenial? gnome-terminal's transparency doesn't seem to work in openbox now
[23:29] <StuckMojo> hmm...eterm seems to still work
[23:35] <zykotick9> StuckMojo: no idea about transparency, but... you might want to check out urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode) if you want an "old-school-serious-terminal".... ymmv
[23:37] <StuckMojo> zykotick9: thx
[23:39] <adalbert> Hi, what desktop file manager is better than Thunar ? Thunar keep crashing and hanging , what a buggy file manager my god ... I need better !!
[23:44] <canio> caniuccio
[23:50] <glache> I have several executables in a directory, how can I add them all to my system path permanently?
[23:51] <k1l_> put them into ~/bin or expand the path with that directory
[23:53] <glache> How can I expand it?  I need to add it to the list.
[23:53] <k1l_> !path
[23:55] <glache> ty
[23:58] <Asmodeous> hrm