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MobileRoeyhaiiiiiii00:59
user|60614kubuntu made a big mistake sticking with Digikam, which choked on it's own vomit and crapped my photo tags - I should have known not to "upgrade" when things work01:17
user|60614wow, this doesn't even work.... you guys are funny01:17
user|60614yup , just as I thought01:18
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knroHey. Suppose I have this udev rule SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1618", ATTRS{idProduct}=="2972", MODE="0666", if I remove ATTRS{idProduct}, does the rule apply to all USB devices whose vendor is 0x1618 ?06:33
hateballInteresting question, which I know not the answer to06:35
hateballknro: #kubuntu is usually rather idle at these hours, you may get more respons in #ubuntu or even ##linux06:35
knrohateball: thanks I'll try that06:35
knro#/join ##linux06:36
knrolol06:36
hateball:)06:40
morfeoxhello06:48
morfeoxI have a problem, can someone help me please06:48
morfeoxwith new installation of kubuntu 16.0406:48
morfeoxsomething happen and now, when I get in the app discover to search, find and install an app, well simple don't find anything, discover is empty06:51
morfeoxI try to reload or download actualizations but send me an error that says: "could not download package"06:52
valorieoh, ..... I remember something about this, morfeox06:52
valorielet me search a bit06:53
morfeoxthanks valorie06:53
valorieI think it is appstream or so06:53
valorie!info appstream06:53
ubottuappstream (source: appstream): Software component metadata management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.1-1 (yakkety), package size 33 kB, installed size 164 kB06:53
valoriemorfeox: can you open a terminal or konsole?06:53
valorieand type: apt-cache policy appstream06:54
valorieor copy/paste06:54
morfeoxyes, I have one open, tell me06:54
valorietype: apt-cache policy appstream06:54
valorieand paste what you see06:54
morfeoxgive me this:06:55
morfeoxhttps://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMrP62VwSV06:55
morfeox???06:56
valoriehmmm, that doesn't look right06:57
valoriebut try: `sudo apt install -f`06:57
valorief=fix06:57
morfeoxok06:57
valorieto see if something is missing06:57
morfeoxgive me this valorie:07:01
morfeoxmorfeox@MORFEOX-PC:~$ sudo apt install -f07:01
morfeoxLeyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho07:01
morfeoxCreando árbol de dependencias07:01
morfeoxLeyendo la información de estado... Hecho07:01
morfeox0 actualizados, 0 nuevos se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.07:01
valorieI don't read spanish, but it seems to say everything is fine07:02
valorie:(07:02
morfeoxwell yes, all is in 007:02
valorieso morfeox: after you installed, or while you were installing, did you do updates?07:02
morfeoxyes07:03
valoriein not, please `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`07:03
morfeoxupdate and upgrade07:03
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valorienot upgrade07:03
valoriefull-upgrade07:03
morfeoxok07:04
morfeoxwait07:05
valorieare you getting some updates?07:08
morfeoxhttps://thepasteb.in/p/BghPpGqJ59MUY07:09
valorieyou have it set to use the CD, DVD or USB still07:10
valorieit isn't upgrading from the internet07:10
valorieyou'll have to set that in Discover, in Sources07:11
valorieuncheck CD or DVD07:11
morfeoxdid it07:11
valorieand do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade again07:11
morfeoxdid it too07:14
morfeoxsomething more07:14
morfeoxmaybe reboot for the change make effect?07:15
valorieit will also be good to add backports: `sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`07:15
valorieyou can read about it: http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-5-bugfix-release-in-xenial-and-yakkety-backports-now/07:16
viewer|91931Hey guys, am i right her to ask for kubuntu related support?07:16
valoriethis is the support channel, yes07:17
morfeoxwell, for me, thanks valorie and other friend for the help07:17
valoriemorfeox: don't thank me until Discover is fixed for you!07:18
valoriealthough I prefer Muon over Discover07:18
morfeoxI do it all and in this moment I go to reboot my PC and test again if something doesn't work, I comeback for help07:18
morfeoxthanks07:18
morfeoxbye07:18
morfeoxgood tip07:18
morfeoxI try and install software-center of ubuntu, that has no problem?07:19
valorieI would suggest either Muon or synaptic07:19
valoriethe ubuntu software center is pretty bad07:20
viewer|91931fantastic :) i have a problem regarding my wlan. It worked perfect out of the box, but after inatalling a wlan repeater where i used a lan cable, it shut down my wlan. i can connect or even see a my own wlan with a pluged in adapter. The symbol is a red disconnect for the lan adapter. So, how to get my wlan back? Disclaimer: Im pretty noob but i ca07:21
viewer|91931n handle the terminal^^07:21
viewer|91931If you need any further logs or anything, i need the commands. Used is the Kubuntu 18.1 Version.07:24
morfeoxthanks, I'm making upgrating before reboot07:24
valorie18.1?07:25
valoriethere is no such Kubuntu version07:25
valorieI'm running the alpha of the next version, which will be 17.0407:25
valorieI'm afraid your wlan problem isn't a kubuntu problem07:25
valorieyou might get more help in ##linux or so07:26
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estanhi folks. we're delivering a software to customers on a kubuntu laptop that is included with our product (a mineral analysis machine). the software is packaged as an *buntu package that comes pre-installed.08:25
estannow, i'd like to offer the user the option of upgrading the software from within its GUI.08:25
estanis there a proper API or command i should run to do the equivalent of "sudo apt update && sudo apt install our-software" ?08:26
estani'd like it to launch the official Kubuntu package manager to do the upgrade.08:26
hateballestan: Do you intend to hold the package then, until the user explicitly wants to upgrade it through the apps gui?08:27
hateballotherwise, assuming you have a repo, it'd be upgraded alongside the rest of the packages with regular intervals08:28
hateball(by default)08:28
estanhateball: right, i indent to let the user just update the package when he/she feels to (it's configured to use the stable component of our APT repo).08:32
estanhateball: but the reason i sometimes want to prompt the user to upgrade is that we have a data format that the user loads in the program, and this data format might change in a way that bumps it's major version number. if the user tries to load some incompatible data, i want to prompt to upgrade.08:33
estane.g. "Your version of our-software is too old to open this data. Please upgrade by clicking [Here]".08:34
estani'd like to provide this option just as a convenience, since it's not necessarily the case that the user has updated the software before trying to open such incompatible files.08:34
estan(when we release the software that produces data with a new incompatible format, we'll first deploy a new version of the software for viewing it)08:35
estan*bumps its.08:37
estan(where deploy == upload to our APT repo).08:38
estani'm not even sure what the official graphical Kubuntu package manager is called, since i always do such things from command line :)08:39
estani was just thinking if there was some standardized DBus API, or package upgrade API, that i could use, that would launch the package manager UI to update the APT lists + upgrade an installed package.08:40
estanis there such a thing as a "preferred graphical package manager" on *buntu btw? (e.g. something configured through update-alternatives?).08:41
estani see that by default, there's an update manager (plasma-discover-updater) in the menu, and a "software central" (plasma-discover)..08:43
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estanif i could launch plasma-discover in some way such that it automatically does an "look for updates" and then presents just our package pre-selected for upgrade, that would work. but i haven't found a way to do that.08:47
estanthings i've also found installed are apturl, apturl-kde and qapt-batch, but i'm not sure if any of them are considered "official" on kubuntu, or if they can do what i want.08:52
estanqapt-batch seems to come close, it has an --update command and an --install command, but it seems i can't give both at the same time, and if i first run with --update, and then with --install our-software, then the user must press a "Close" button when the update finishes, which is not very nice.08:58
estanit seems i would need to write my own updater using libqapt to get exactly what i want.09:00
lordievaderGood morning09:00
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viewer|19890Hey Guys, i have a problem with my WLAN on Kubuntu 16.10 (if anyone is reading this again, i´m sorry, i lost connection due to mobile service holes). It worked out of the boxwith my wlan stick but to configure a wlan repeater i had to use an ethernet cable (worked great tho!) and now i can't get a wlan connection. The symbol will stay for an ethern10:17
viewer|19890et connection but red (disconnect i guess). I have tried to restart the system, plugged the adapter in another usb slot but nothing will change. I tried running "iwconfig" "iwlistchan" and "lsusb" and can paste them if it´s usefull for troubleshooting. Thanks in advance.10:17
lordievaderviewer|19890: What is the output of 'ip l && ip a'?10:20
viewer|19890will take a short moment, i have to reboot into Kubuntu^^ Do i just copy it into kde paste and click on paste?10:21
viewer|19890Wlan Guy again. The command 'ip | && ip a’ throws me an error out "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'"10:34
lordievaderIt was not a pipe but the small L10:39
viewer|19890https://paste.kde.org/p3zndxxai (i'm using the ethernet cable to wlan repeater now to make it easier without rebooting for every command.)10:42
lordievaderWhy would you need to reboot for every command?10:43
lordievaderSeems the driver works.10:43
lordievaderWhat is the actual problem?10:43
viewer|19890i used the ethernet cable to configure the repeater. now i can't use my normal wlan stick. it won't show any connections. and reboot for kubuntu terminal and windows for working internet.10:45
lordievaderviewer|19890: What is the output of 'sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan'?10:46
viewer|19890command failed: Network is down (-100)10:47
viewer|19890command failed: Network is down (-100)10:47
viewer|19890command failed: Network is down (-100)10:47
lordievaderviewer|19890: Does 'sudo ip l s wlxbc054302f504 up' bring the interface up?10:50
viewer|19890no, i get "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill"10:51
lordievaderAh, what is the output of 'sudo rfkill list'?10:52
viewer|19890https://paste.kde.org/pcihbzuyu10:55
lordievaderviewer|19890: This is what is keeping you from connecting: sudo rfkill unblock all10:57
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viewer|19890if i'm not mistaken, i should see the wlan list now without unplugging the ethernet cable right? but the command sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan will output the same error11:02
lordievaderviewer|19890: What does the 'sudo ip l s wlxbc054302f504 up' command do?11:03
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viewer|19890nothing, no error or interface11:04
lordievaderGood, now try to scan for ssids ;)11:05
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BluesKajHi folks11:22
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viewer|19890Jep that works now.i'll unplug the ethernet cable and restart and try to connect to one. Thanks lordievader!11:42
lordievaderviewer|19890: No problem ;)11:42
lordievaderHey BluesKaj, how are you doing?11:42
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viewer|19890Hey lordivader, wlan guy again. i unpluged the ethernet cable and did a restart, but it won't connect (or show in the control bar) to any wlan. "sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan" won't work from scratch only after "sudo ip l s wlxbc054302f504 up". So i find some SSID bu they won't show up in the network gui. any further advices?12:10
lordievaderviewer|19890: Does NetworkManager manage the device?12:12
viewer|19890i think yes, in the info panel it states "NM-Version: 1.2.4". i'm using a translated version so i'm not sure.12:14
lordievaderCan you configure the interface through Network Manager, and does it show wireless networks?12:15
viewer|19890it shows the active one (ethernet) and the wireless networks i connected to in the past (home wlan)12:16
lordievaderRight, could you pastebin your /etc/networks/interfaces files?12:17
viewer|19890https://paste.kde.org/pwgoxbiqe12:19
lordievaderviewer|19890: NetworkManager does not list the network you want to use?12:22
viewer|19890it does, once my router and the wlan repeater but with duplicated entries. one shows my last connection and one states i never connected to it. The connect button is greyed out it i highlight them12:24
viewer|19890*when12:25
lordievaderAre they in range?12:26
viewer|19890yes, if i switch to windows they work with the same wlan stick12:26
lordievaderCould you pastebin the output of 'sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan'?12:27
viewer|19890https://paste.kde.org/psjpfsqjy12:29
lordievaderI see alot of networks, I suppose it should just work.12:30
viewer|19890unfortunately not. My own router and extender are in the list and they have the same name in the networkmanager, but it just won't work12:32
lordievaderWon't work how?12:32
viewer|19890if i plug out the ethernet cable i can't connect to any wlan12:33
viewer|19890they won't even be displayed in the network symbol where dummies like me connect to them ;)12:34
lordievaderDoes it list other networks?12:34
viewer|19890no, not a single one12:34
lordievaderWhat is in the NM logs about the wifi nic?12:36
viewer|19890where do i find them?12:36
lordievaderjournalctl -u NetworkManager12:37
viewer|19890https://paste.kde.org/pi3rmz9kw12:39
viewer|19890oh wow, i got it12:40
viewer|19890actually had to click on the small checkbox left of the wlan symbol...now it shows me all networks... i feel stupid and ashamed. Thanks for all the help!12:42
viewer|19890And sorry for taking so much time :/12:42
lordievaderNo problem, glad you fixed it12:43
viewer|19890Thanks and have a nice day!12:44
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onyx_rrrhello)13:33
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hans_Moin!15:57
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BluesKaj'morning ...guess that's what he means16:02
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TBotNikHelp! DPKG has a major error and has trashed my server. Getting error: "Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary ddirectories fullD?). Check your installation".  This is because dpkg is hanging and causing the disk to fill.  Help please.  Also experiencing the same on my laptop here, but refusing to reboot, so as to not loose inet connection to get help!17:19
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TBotNikAll: Went through Recovery mode, deleted all in the /tmp dir, but didn't help.  The enabled disk r/w and looked for all the *.deb and *.part downloads, deleted, but still get msg.  Do not know what file types dpkg creates, so no idea what to delete for that!17:23
BluesKajTBotNik:  try sudo dpkg --configure -a , then apt upgrade , or if necessary sudo apt -f install17:25
TBotNikAll: The error is in the dpkg created for MySQL to upgrade from 5.5.x to 5.7 and on the laptop, during build, has called this 7 times, even though only declared once17:25
TBotNikBluesKaj: Those cmds do not work, since its disk full and those require space to run!17:26
BluesKajTBotNik:  that's all i can suggest17:26
TBotNikBluesKaj: Any cmd to dpkg, recalls the bad MySQL config that was downloaded.  Have to be able to erase the file for dpkg that contains the pointer to the package containing the error.17:27
BluesKajapt-cache policy 'nameofpackage'17:29
lordievaderTBotNik: Can you show some console output of the problem?17:52
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Simonioushalp, something went wrong (most of the errors are at the end).  I'm trying to set up VNCserver (obviously?)18:41
Simonioushttp://pastebin.com/f2gi0SUY18:41
sryates81hey this might be a really stupid question but here it goes. i installed unity tweaker. its installed it works from terminal but dosent show up in the main menu anywhere18:41
sryates81any ideas peeps18:41
sryates81just cant understand why it dosent apear in the list of apps18:45
Simoniousokay.. setup VNC server, but when I connect I get this and can't do anything.. I was hoping to see something more like the Xdesktop on console..  but at least I want to be able to do something.. https://ibin.co/3BUVnoGdDTyd.png  Where did I go wrong?19:29
al9898hello :) is there any other software store for kubuntu other than discover?19:34
Simoniouscan KDE run w/o 3d accel?19:34
SimoniousI'm told that might be related to my problem19:35
Dragnslcral9898- if you just mean a different program for installing software from the repository, you can try out muon19:52
Dragnslcr!info muon19:52
ubottumuon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.6.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 337 kB, installed size 2018 kB19:52
al9898dragnslcr: cool thank you i used that before in kubuntu 14.04 but in 16.04 they changed to discover which is buggy and does not work19:56
mparilloSimonious: In a VMware VM, I always turn off acceleration. Otherwise Google Maps in Chrome will crash the entire VM (not Plasma, not Linux, the entire VM).20:02
mparilloSimonious: I assume I am unable to do some neat kwin effects, but I do not miss them.20:02
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jorgitohi all22:03
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nezerO_022:43
nezerHello, friends!22:43
nezerI am f**ing novice. And so... Do you know about scrolling with keyboard in Konsole (while mc running) ??? I remember, that it was... Shift+PageUp... But now???22:44
cablophello22:46
cablopsimple question:22:46
nezer)))22:47
cablopshould i use Kubuntu-backports or Neon?22:47
cablopi need a KDE that works, that is not obsolete, and that is ready for production22:47
nezerOk, i will answer but... Do you know about scrolling with keyboard in Konsole (while mc running) ??? I remember, that it was... Shift+PageUp... But now???22:47
cablopmy interest is not to be on the testers group, but in the users of the latest stable tech22:48
cablopnezer, in Konsole? let me try22:48
krytarikcablop: Backports then.22:49
nezermc is running22:49
cablopwell, nezer, in Konsole Shift + PgUp or Shift + PgDn do what you want22:49
cablopnezer, what do you mean with mc22:49
nezerno (22:49
nezerNot during mc22:49
cablopthanks krytarik22:50
nezerstart mc and try22:50
nezerMidnight Commander22:50
cablopi think i don't have it installed22:50
nezersudo apt install mc )22:50
nezerit's oldschool )22:50
cabloplol22:53
cabloptooo old school22:54
cablopit made me remember the far manager22:54
nezeryes... or Norton Commander in DOS-period22:54
cablopsadly i can't find how to do that scrolling22:54
nezerbut i like it )22:54
nezerok, thank you )22:54
cablopand i installed, now removed it22:54
cablopif i don't know how to use it i think it is a very dangerous piece of SW to leave around22:55
cablopnot dangerous by itself... but the user xD22:55
cablopnow i have this issue... htop does not open in KDE22:56
nezerI am novice in Linux ) But last year i coded for HP-UX22:56
cablopit just try to start then closes22:56
cablopbut if i call it in Konsole it just runs22:56
nezerand Shift+PageUp was able for mc22:56
nezerif start mc, you will be in $HOME22:56
nezersorry for my english22:56
nezerNot at your directory for develop22:58
nezerlike $HOME/devel/projetc/122:58
nezer*project22:58
Dragnslcrnezer- shift+pgup and shift+pgdn work for me in Konsole22:58
nezeryes, but try to start mc22:58
nezerMidnight Commander22:58
nezerand try to scroll with Shift+PageUp22:58
DragnslcrI don't use Midnight Commander, so I can't help you there23:05
cablopnezer, try in #ubuntu channel23:05
cablopas mc is not a KDE thing, maybe you'll find someone else using that vintage file browser23:06
nezerThank You ) But mc is not Unity thing too23:07
nezerjust old utility23:07
nezerBut i think, that konsole is not able to catch Shift+PageUp23:07
nezerwhile mc is running23:07
krytariknezer: This page suggests it's just PgUp/Dn: https://midnight-commander.org/wiki/doc/common/actions23:12
cablopnezer, or maybe the other way... it is catching the thing and not allowing mc to catch it23:12
cablopintercepting i fact23:12
cablop*in fact23:12
nezerkrytarik, but it is not scrolling (( PageUp/Dn move only cursor23:15
nezercablop, do you know method to do it? To disable cathching by mc this hotkey Shift+PageUp? )23:17
cablopsadly not23:19
cablopyou can use mc in a different terminal btw23:19
nezeror type while(1); before end of "int main()source23:21
nezer"int main()"23:21
nezerit will let me see last log ))23:22
nezerbut it's too strange (23:22
nezerI want to create source file, compile it, link.... start it!!! And want to see my "Hello, world!"23:23
cablopc? C++?23:23
nezerand mc is perfect for it... but not for scrolling to see "Hello, world"23:23
nezerc23:23
nezerpure23:23
cablopwell23:24
cablopi didn't code in C for a long long time xD23:24
nezerI am very old )23:25
nezerjoke )23:25
nezerit doesn't matter... C or poetry )))23:26
nezerit was very useful to use Shift+PageUp in HP-UX23:26
nezerSunOS23:26
nezeretc...23:26
nezerOk, thank you very much for helping23:27
nezerWhere are you from ?23:27
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cablopnezer, me? or everyone?23:49
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nezercablop, you23:55
cablopColombia23:57
cablopand you?23:57
nezerMoscow, Russia23:58
cablopwe both are non native english speakers23:59

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