[00:59] <MobileRoey> haiiiiiii
[01:17] <user|60614> kubuntu made a big mistake sticking with Digikam, which choked on it's own vomit and crapped my photo tags - I should have known not to "upgrade" when things work
[01:17] <user|60614> wow, this doesn't even work.... you guys are funny
[01:18] <user|60614> yup , just as I thought
[06:33] <knro> Hey. Suppose I have this udev rule SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1618", ATTRS{idProduct}=="2972", MODE="0666", if I remove ATTRS{idProduct}, does the rule apply to all USB devices whose vendor is 0x1618 ?
[06:35] <hateball> Interesting question, which I know not the answer to
[06:35] <hateball> knro: #kubuntu is usually rather idle at these hours, you may get more respons in #ubuntu or even ##linux
[06:35] <knro> hateball: thanks I'll try that
[06:36] <knro> #/join ##linux
[06:36] <knro> lol
[06:40] <hateball> :)
[06:48] <morfeox> hello
[06:48] <morfeox> I have a problem, can someone help me please
[06:48] <morfeox> with new installation of kubuntu 16.04
[06:51] <morfeox> something happen and now, when I get in the app discover to search, find and install an app, well simple don't find anything, discover is empty
[06:52] <morfeox> I try to reload or download actualizations but send me an error that says: "could not download package"
[06:52] <valorie> oh, ..... I remember something about this, morfeox
[06:53] <valorie> let me search a bit
[06:53] <morfeox> thanks valorie
[06:53] <valorie> I think it is appstream or so
[06:53] <valorie> !info appstream
[06:53] <valorie> morfeox: can you open a terminal or konsole?
[06:54] <valorie> and type: apt-cache policy appstream
[06:54] <valorie> or copy/paste
[06:54] <morfeox> yes, I have one open, tell me
[06:54] <valorie> type: apt-cache policy appstream
[06:54] <valorie> and paste what you see
[06:55] <morfeox> give me this:
[06:55] <morfeox> https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMrP62VwSV
[06:56] <morfeox> ???
[06:57] <valorie> hmmm, that doesn't look right
[06:57] <valorie> but try: `sudo apt install -f`
[06:57] <valorie> f=fix
[06:57] <morfeox> ok
[06:57] <valorie> to see if something is missing
[07:01] <morfeox> give me this valorie:
[07:01] <morfeox> morfeox@MORFEOX-PC:~$ sudo apt install -f
[07:01] <morfeox> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[07:01] <morfeox> Creando árbol de dependencias
[07:01] <morfeox> Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
[07:01] <morfeox> 0 actualizados, 0 nuevos se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
[07:02] <valorie> I don't read spanish, but it seems to say everything is fine
[07:02] <valorie> :(
[07:02] <morfeox> well yes, all is in 0
[07:02] <valorie> so morfeox: after you installed, or while you were installing, did you do updates?
[07:03] <morfeox> yes
[07:03] <valorie> in not, please `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[07:03] <morfeox> update and upgrade
[07:03] <valorie> not upgrade
[07:03] <valorie> full-upgrade
[07:04] <morfeox> ok
[07:05] <morfeox> wait
[07:08] <valorie> are you getting some updates?
[07:09] <morfeox> https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPpGqJ59MUY
[07:10] <valorie> you have it set to use the CD, DVD or USB still
[07:10] <valorie> it isn't upgrading from the internet
[07:11] <valorie> you'll have to set that in Discover, in Sources
[07:11] <valorie> uncheck CD or DVD
[07:11] <morfeox> did it
[07:11] <valorie> and do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade again
[07:14] <morfeox> did it too
[07:14] <morfeox> something more
[07:15] <morfeox> maybe reboot for the change make effect?
[07:15] <valorie> it will also be good to add backports: `sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`
[07:16] <valorie> you can read about it: http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-5-bugfix-release-in-xenial-and-yakkety-backports-now/
[07:16] <viewer|91931> Hey guys, am i right her to ask for kubuntu related support?
[07:17] <valorie> this is the support channel, yes
[07:17] <morfeox> well, for me, thanks valorie and other friend for the help
[07:18] <valorie> morfeox: don't thank me until Discover is fixed for you!
[07:18] <valorie> although I prefer Muon over Discover
[07:18] <morfeox> I do it all and in this moment I go to reboot my PC and test again if something doesn't work, I comeback for help
[07:18] <morfeox> thanks
[07:18] <morfeox> bye
[07:18] <morfeox> good tip
[07:19] <morfeox> I try and install software-center of ubuntu, that has no problem?
[07:19] <valorie> I would suggest either Muon or synaptic
[07:20] <valorie> the ubuntu software center is pretty bad
[07:21] <viewer|91931> fantastic :) i have a problem regarding my wlan. It worked perfect out of the box, but after inatalling a wlan repeater where i used a lan cable, it shut down my wlan. i can connect or even see a my own wlan with a pluged in adapter. The symbol is a red disconnect for the lan adapter. So, how to get my wlan back? Disclaimer: Im pretty noob but i ca
[07:21] <viewer|91931> n handle the terminal^^
[07:24] <viewer|91931> If you need any further logs or anything, i need the commands. Used is the Kubuntu 18.1 Version.
[07:24] <morfeox> thanks, I'm making upgrating before reboot
[07:25] <valorie> 18.1?
[07:25] <valorie> there is no such Kubuntu version
[07:25] <valorie> I'm running the alpha of the next version, which will be 17.04
[07:25] <valorie> I'm afraid your wlan problem isn't a kubuntu problem
[07:26] <valorie> you might get more help in ##linux or so
[08:25] <estan> hi folks. we're delivering a software to customers on a kubuntu laptop that is included with our product (a mineral analysis machine). the software is packaged as an *buntu package that comes pre-installed.
[08:25] <estan> now, i'd like to offer the user the option of upgrading the software from within its GUI.
[08:26] <estan> is there a proper API or command i should run to do the equivalent of "sudo apt update && sudo apt install our-software" ?
[08:26] <estan> i'd like it to launch the official Kubuntu package manager to do the upgrade.
[08:27] <hateball> estan: Do you intend to hold the package then, until the user explicitly wants to upgrade it through the apps gui?
[08:28] <hateball> otherwise, assuming you have a repo, it'd be upgraded alongside the rest of the packages with regular intervals
[08:28] <hateball> (by default)
[08:32] <estan> hateball: right, i indent to let the user just update the package when he/she feels to (it's configured to use the stable component of our APT repo).
[08:33] <estan> hateball: but the reason i sometimes want to prompt the user to upgrade is that we have a data format that the user loads in the program, and this data format might change in a way that bumps it's major version number. if the user tries to load some incompatible data, i want to prompt to upgrade.
[08:34] <estan> e.g. "Your version of our-software is too old to open this data. Please upgrade by clicking [Here]".
[08:34] <estan> i'd like to provide this option just as a convenience, since it's not necessarily the case that the user has updated the software before trying to open such incompatible files.
[08:35] <estan> (when we release the software that produces data with a new incompatible format, we'll first deploy a new version of the software for viewing it)
[08:37] <estan> *bumps its.
[08:38] <estan> (where deploy == upload to our APT repo).
[08:39] <estan> i'm not even sure what the official graphical Kubuntu package manager is called, since i always do such things from command line :)
[08:40] <estan> i was just thinking if there was some standardized DBus API, or package upgrade API, that i could use, that would launch the package manager UI to update the APT lists + upgrade an installed package.
[08:41] <estan> is there such a thing as a "preferred graphical package manager" on *buntu btw? (e.g. something configured through update-alternatives?).
[08:43] <estan> i see that by default, there's an update manager (plasma-discover-updater) in the menu, and a "software central" (plasma-discover)..
[08:47] <estan> if i could launch plasma-discover in some way such that it automatically does an "look for updates" and then presents just our package pre-selected for upgrade, that would work. but i haven't found a way to do that.
[08:52] <estan> things i've also found installed are apturl, apturl-kde and qapt-batch, but i'm not sure if any of them are considered "official" on kubuntu, or if they can do what i want.
[08:58] <estan> qapt-batch seems to come close, it has an --update command and an --install command, but it seems i can't give both at the same time, and if i first run with --update, and then with --install our-software, then the user must press a "Close" button when the update finishes, which is not very nice.
[09:00] <estan> it seems i would need to write my own updater using libqapt to get exactly what i want.
[09:00] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:17] <viewer|19890> Hey Guys, i have a problem with my WLAN on Kubuntu 16.10 (if anyone is reading this again, i´m sorry, i lost connection due to mobile service holes). It worked out of the boxwith my wlan stick but to configure a wlan repeater i had to use an ethernet cable (worked great tho!) and now i can't get a wlan connection. The symbol will stay for an ethern
[10:17] <viewer|19890> et connection but red (disconnect i guess). I have tried to restart the system, plugged the adapter in another usb slot but nothing will change. I tried running "iwconfig" "iwlistchan" and "lsusb" and can paste them if it´s usefull for troubleshooting. Thanks in advance.
[10:20] <lordievader> viewer|19890: What is the output of 'ip l && ip a'?
[10:21] <viewer|19890> will take a short moment, i have to reboot into Kubuntu^^ Do i just copy it into kde paste and click on paste?
[10:34] <viewer|19890> Wlan Guy again. The command 'ip | && ip a’ throws me an error out "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'"
[10:39] <lordievader> It was not a pipe but the small L
[10:42] <viewer|19890> https://paste.kde.org/p3zndxxai (i'm using the ethernet cable to wlan repeater now to make it easier without rebooting for every command.)
[10:43] <lordievader> Why would you need to reboot for every command?
[10:43] <lordievader> Seems the driver works.
[10:43] <lordievader> What is the actual problem?
[10:45] <viewer|19890> i used the ethernet cable to configure the repeater. now i can't use my normal wlan stick. it won't show any connections. and reboot for kubuntu terminal and windows for working internet.
[10:46] <lordievader> viewer|19890: What is the output of 'sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan'?
[10:47] <viewer|19890> command failed: Network is down (-100)
[10:47] <viewer|19890> command failed: Network is down (-100)
[10:47] <viewer|19890> command failed: Network is down (-100)
[10:50] <lordievader> viewer|19890: Does 'sudo ip l s wlxbc054302f504 up' bring the interface up?
[10:51] <viewer|19890> no, i get "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
[10:52] <lordievader> Ah, what is the output of 'sudo rfkill list'?
[10:55] <viewer|19890> https://paste.kde.org/pcihbzuyu
[10:57] <lordievader> viewer|19890: This is what is keeping you from connecting: sudo rfkill unblock all
[11:02] <viewer|19890> if i'm not mistaken, i should see the wlan list now without unplugging the ethernet cable right? but the command sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan will output the same error
[11:03] <lordievader> viewer|19890: What does the 'sudo ip l s wlxbc054302f504 up' command do?
[11:04] <viewer|19890> nothing, no error or interface
[11:05] <lordievader> Good, now try to scan for ssids ;)
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:42] <viewer|19890> Jep that works now.i'll unplug the ethernet cable and restart and try to connect to one. Thanks lordievader!
[11:42] <lordievader> viewer|19890: No problem ;)
[11:42] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, how are you doing?
[12:10] <viewer|19890> Hey lordivader, wlan guy again. i unpluged the ethernet cable and did a restart, but it won't connect (or show in the control bar) to any wlan. "sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan" won't work from scratch only after "sudo ip l s wlxbc054302f504 up". So i find some SSID bu they won't show up in the network gui. any further advices?
[12:12] <lordievader> viewer|19890: Does NetworkManager manage the device?
[12:14] <viewer|19890> i think yes, in the info panel it states "NM-Version: 1.2.4". i'm using a translated version so i'm not sure.
[12:15] <lordievader> Can you configure the interface through Network Manager, and does it show wireless networks?
[12:16] <viewer|19890> it shows the active one (ethernet) and the wireless networks i connected to in the past (home wlan)
[12:17] <lordievader> Right, could you pastebin your /etc/networks/interfaces files?
[12:19] <viewer|19890> https://paste.kde.org/pwgoxbiqe
[12:22] <lordievader> viewer|19890: NetworkManager does not list the network you want to use?
[12:24] <viewer|19890> it does, once my router and the wlan repeater but with duplicated entries. one shows my last connection and one states i never connected to it. The connect button is greyed out it i highlight them
[12:25] <viewer|19890> *when
[12:26] <lordievader> Are they in range?
[12:26] <viewer|19890> yes, if i switch to windows they work with the same wlan stick
[12:27] <lordievader> Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo iw dev wlxbc054302f504 scan'?
[12:29] <viewer|19890> https://paste.kde.org/psjpfsqjy
[12:30] <lordievader> I see alot of networks, I suppose it should just work.
[12:32] <viewer|19890> unfortunately not. My own router and extender are in the list and they have the same name in the networkmanager, but it just won't work
[12:32] <lordievader> Won't work how?
[12:33] <viewer|19890> if i plug out the ethernet cable i can't connect to any wlan
[12:34] <viewer|19890> they won't even be displayed in the network symbol where dummies like me connect to them ;)
[12:34] <lordievader> Does it list other networks?
[12:34] <viewer|19890> no, not a single one
[12:36] <lordievader> What is in the NM logs about the wifi nic?
[12:36] <viewer|19890> where do i find them?
[12:37] <lordievader> journalctl -u NetworkManager
[12:39] <viewer|19890> https://paste.kde.org/pi3rmz9kw
[12:40] <viewer|19890> oh wow, i got it
[12:42] <viewer|19890> actually had to click on the small checkbox left of the wlan symbol...now it shows me all networks... i feel stupid and ashamed. Thanks for all the help!
[12:42] <viewer|19890> And sorry for taking so much time :/
[12:43] <lordievader> No problem, glad you fixed it
[12:44] <viewer|19890> Thanks and have a nice day!
[13:33] <onyx_rrr> hello)
[15:57] <hans_> Moin!
[15:58] <lordievader> o/
[16:02] <BluesKaj> 'morning ...guess that's what he means
[17:19] <TBotNik> Help! DPKG has a major error and has trashed my server. Getting error: "Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary ddirectories fullD?). Check your installation".  This is because dpkg is hanging and causing the disk to fill.  Help please.  Also experiencing the same on my laptop here, but refusing to reboot, so as to not loose inet connection to get help!
[17:23] <TBotNik> All: Went through Recovery mode, deleted all in the /tmp dir, but didn't help.  The enabled disk r/w and looked for all the *.deb and *.part downloads, deleted, but still get msg.  Do not know what file types dpkg creates, so no idea what to delete for that!
[17:25] <BluesKaj> TBotNik:  try sudo dpkg --configure -a , then apt upgrade , or if necessary sudo apt -f install
[17:25] <TBotNik> All: The error is in the dpkg created for MySQL to upgrade from 5.5.x to 5.7 and on the laptop, during build, has called this 7 times, even though only declared once
[17:26] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Those cmds do not work, since its disk full and those require space to run!
[17:26] <BluesKaj> TBotNik:  that's all i can suggest
[17:27] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Any cmd to dpkg, recalls the bad MySQL config that was downloaded.  Have to be able to erase the file for dpkg that contains the pointer to the package containing the error.
[17:29] <BluesKaj> apt-cache policy 'nameofpackage'
[17:52] <lordievader> TBotNik: Can you show some console output of the problem?
[18:41] <Simonious> halp, something went wrong (most of the errors are at the end).  I'm trying to set up VNCserver (obviously?)
[18:41] <Simonious> http://pastebin.com/f2gi0SUY
[18:41] <sryates81> hey this might be a really stupid question but here it goes. i installed unity tweaker. its installed it works from terminal but dosent show up in the main menu anywhere
[18:41] <sryates81> any ideas peeps
[18:45] <sryates81> just cant understand why it dosent apear in the list of apps
[19:29] <Simonious> okay.. setup VNC server, but when I connect I get this and can't do anything.. I was hoping to see something more like the Xdesktop on console..  but at least I want to be able to do something.. https://ibin.co/3BUVnoGdDTyd.png  Where did I go wrong?
[19:34] <al9898> hello :) is there any other software store for kubuntu other than discover?
[19:34] <Simonious> can KDE run w/o 3d accel?
[19:35] <Simonious> I'm told that might be related to my problem
[19:52] <Dragnslcr> al9898- if you just mean a different program for installing software from the repository, you can try out muon
[19:52] <Dragnslcr> !info muon
[19:56] <al9898> dragnslcr: cool thank you i used that before in kubuntu 14.04 but in 16.04 they changed to discover which is buggy and does not work
[20:02] <mparillo> Simonious: In a VMware VM, I always turn off acceleration. Otherwise Google Maps in Chrome will crash the entire VM (not Plasma, not Linux, the entire VM).
[20:02] <mparillo> Simonious: I assume I am unable to do some neat kwin effects, but I do not miss them.
[20:59] <wolfgang_> .
[21:00] <wolfgang_> .
[21:02] <wolf> .
[22:03] <jorgito> hi all
[22:43] <nezer> O_0
[22:43] <nezer> Hello, friends!
[22:44] <nezer> I am f**ing novice. And so... Do you know about scrolling with keyboard in Konsole (while mc running) ??? I remember, that it was... Shift+PageUp... But now???
[22:46] <cablop> hello
[22:46] <cablop> simple question:
[22:47] <nezer> )))
[22:47] <cablop> should i use Kubuntu-backports or Neon?
[22:47] <cablop> i need a KDE that works, that is not obsolete, and that is ready for production
[22:47] <nezer> Ok, i will answer but... Do you know about scrolling with keyboard in Konsole (while mc running) ??? I remember, that it was... Shift+PageUp... But now???
[22:48] <cablop> my interest is not to be on the testers group, but in the users of the latest stable tech
[22:48] <cablop> nezer, in Konsole? let me try
[22:49] <krytarik> cablop: Backports then.
[22:49] <nezer> mc is running
[22:49] <cablop> well, nezer, in Konsole Shift + PgUp or Shift + PgDn do what you want
[22:49] <cablop> nezer, what do you mean with mc
[22:49] <nezer> no (
[22:49] <nezer> Not during mc
[22:50] <cablop> thanks krytarik
[22:50] <nezer> start mc and try
[22:50] <nezer> Midnight Commander
[22:50] <cablop> i think i don't have it installed
[22:50] <nezer> sudo apt install mc )
[22:50] <nezer> it's oldschool )
[22:53] <cablop> lol
[22:54] <cablop> tooo old school
[22:54] <cablop> it made me remember the far manager
[22:54] <nezer> yes... or Norton Commander in DOS-period
[22:54] <cablop> sadly i can't find how to do that scrolling
[22:54] <nezer> but i like it )
[22:54] <nezer> ok, thank you )
[22:54] <cablop> and i installed, now removed it
[22:55] <cablop> if i don't know how to use it i think it is a very dangerous piece of SW to leave around
[22:55] <cablop> not dangerous by itself... but the user xD
[22:56] <cablop> now i have this issue... htop does not open in KDE
[22:56] <nezer> I am novice in Linux ) But last year i coded for HP-UX
[22:56] <cablop> it just try to start then closes
[22:56] <cablop> but if i call it in Konsole it just runs
[22:56] <nezer> and Shift+PageUp was able for mc
[22:56] <nezer> if start mc, you will be in $HOME
[22:56] <nezer> sorry for my english
[22:58] <nezer> Not at your directory for develop
[22:58] <nezer> like $HOME/devel/projetc/1
[22:58] <nezer> *project
[22:58] <Dragnslcr> nezer- shift+pgup and shift+pgdn work for me in Konsole
[22:58] <nezer> yes, but try to start mc
[22:58] <nezer> Midnight Commander
[22:58] <nezer> and try to scroll with Shift+PageUp
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> I don't use Midnight Commander, so I can't help you there
[23:05] <cablop> nezer, try in #ubuntu channel
[23:06] <cablop> as mc is not a KDE thing, maybe you'll find someone else using that vintage file browser
[23:07] <nezer> Thank You ) But mc is not Unity thing too
[23:07] <nezer> just old utility
[23:07] <nezer> But i think, that konsole is not able to catch Shift+PageUp
[23:07] <nezer> while mc is running
[23:12] <krytarik> nezer: This page suggests it's just PgUp/Dn: https://midnight-commander.org/wiki/doc/common/actions
[23:12] <cablop> nezer, or maybe the other way... it is catching the thing and not allowing mc to catch it
[23:12] <cablop> intercepting i fact
[23:12] <cablop> *in fact
[23:15] <nezer> krytarik, but it is not scrolling (( PageUp/Dn move only cursor
[23:17] <nezer> cablop, do you know method to do it? To disable cathching by mc this hotkey Shift+PageUp? )
[23:19] <cablop> sadly not
[23:19] <cablop> you can use mc in a different terminal btw
[23:21] <nezer> or type while(1); before end of "int main()source
[23:21] <nezer> "int main()"
[23:22] <nezer> it will let me see last log ))
[23:22] <nezer> but it's too strange (
[23:23] <nezer> I want to create source file, compile it, link.... start it!!! And want to see my "Hello, world!"
[23:23] <cablop> c? C++?
[23:23] <nezer> and mc is perfect for it... but not for scrolling to see "Hello, world"
[23:23] <nezer> c
[23:23] <nezer> pure
[23:24] <cablop> well
[23:24] <cablop> i didn't code in C for a long long time xD
[23:25] <nezer> I am very old )
[23:25] <nezer> joke )
[23:26] <nezer> it doesn't matter... C or poetry )))
[23:26] <nezer> it was very useful to use Shift+PageUp in HP-UX
[23:26] <nezer> SunOS
[23:26] <nezer> etc...
[23:27] <nezer> Ok, thank you very much for helping
[23:27] <nezer> Where are you from ?
[23:49] <cablop> nezer, me? or everyone?
[23:55] <nezer> cablop, you
[23:57] <cablop> Colombia
[23:57] <cablop> and you?
[23:58] <nezer> Moscow, Russia
[23:59] <cablop> we both are non native english speakers