| anon^_^ | everyone must be watching the pooper bowl | 01:57 |
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| cpaelzer | good morning | 07:10 |
| mitya57 | Laney: thanks, Sphinx migrated now! \o/ | 08:15 |
| Laney | mitya57: someone skipped it ... | 09:05 |
| tjaalton | doko: hi, just a heads up that mesa et al will migrate to llvm-4.0 for zesty, probably post-ff as llvm-4.0 is still at rc1 | 09:21 |
| Mirv | tjaalton: will you be the guy to switch the verification tag in bug #1641017? I see a community testing is mentioned, so I didn't dare to tag it as done just based on my testing. | 09:31 |
| ubottu | bug 1641017 in mesa (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Mesa 12.0.6 - multiple important fixes, stable branch" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641017 | 09:31 |
| Mirv | I did tag the other two bugs, especially as I happen to have Radeon 7750 mentioned in the other bug | 09:32 |
| tjaalton | Mirv: yeah, guess I should | 09:38 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: could versioning the symbols be a solution? | 10:20 |
| lolek | hello everybody, I hope this is not wrong channel for this question, I'm trying to understand how the global menu in ubuntu is being done as I'm trying to fix one application behavior | 10:45 |
| lolek | so far I thought it's taking the app menu that's not hidden and is using it as a menu, but it seems it's not working like this, so my question is how can I have multiple global menus and switch between them? | 10:46 |
| juliank | I'm thinking about just pushing ndiswrapper 1.60-3 from yakkety/zesty to xenial to make it build with newer kernels (bug 1625089). Opinions on that? | 10:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1625089 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu Xenial) "ndiswrapper <= 1.60-2 ADT test failure with linux 4.8.0-11.12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625089 | 10:46 |
| juliank | It's a very leaf package in universe, the changes (https://anonscm.debian.org/git/collab-maint/ndiswrapper.git/diff/?id=debian/1.60-3&id2=debian/1.59-6) are fairly tiny, and I don't really want to bother rolling custom updates for stable series for a project that's on basic life support. | 10:47 |
| juliank | apw: ^ basically ready to go | 10:53 |
| juliank | AKA package built, not signed yet... | 10:53 |
| juliank | Uploaded now, but oh well, 1.60-3~ubuntu16.04.1 might not have been the best versioning choice - I think it should have been 1.60-3~ubuntu0.16.04.1? | 10:59 |
| juliank | or well, it's a ~, so it does not really matter | 11:00 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: could work, but then how much more symbols would it be | 11:00 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: that is part of the "it might be an upstream bug, but I have to fix packaging for now" story IMHO | 11:01 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: it would be the same number of symbols per shared library still though, no? | 11:06 |
| rbasak | IIRC, libmysqlclient20 does this. | 11:06 |
| juliank | There's an ndiswrapper 1.61 now, but it failed to build or something, so no upload of that one ... | 11:07 |
| juliank | If we can just upload the new uploads to xenial (assuming neither I nor upstream do anything except basic life support), we can even continue having working ndiswrappers in xenial with new kernels. | 11:09 |
| juliank | We have the same problem with new kernels in precise and trusty, but they never got an update for ndiswrapper (but they probably also have no automated testing of dkms builds) | 11:10 |
| juliank | Unfortunately, I cleaned up the packaging after trusty/vivid (wily?) [see 1.59-4 changelog], so these would require backporting quite some stuff which I'm not really fond of doing (it's up for grabs if someone is interested in that stuff) | 11:13 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: yeah I just meant this is a fix that I might propose upstream for the following versions | 11:23 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: do you have a pointer to the libmysql example to I can refer to it? | 11:24 |
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| rbasak | cpaelzer: I'm not sure, sorry. I'm not even sure how to confirm the symbols are versioned. I thought they were, but objdump/nm don't seem to think so. | 11:27 |
| * rbasak 's linker-fu is weak. | 11:27 | |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: honestly I just think different versions of same so in the same exetubale space are doomed to cause trouble - the question for me is how to resolve that so that it won't happen | 11:39 |
| apw | juliank, i can reject that for you if you want to change the version | 11:40 |
| juliank | apw: Nah, I think it's normal for the ~ ones | 11:40 |
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| cpaelzer | rbasak: after I summarized I'm kind of leaning towards the symlink-compat-lib solution I described for now | 11:40 |
| juliank | Only the non-~ ones have a 0. in front usually | 11:40 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: and starting the discussion upstream how they want it in the long term | 11:40 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: yet - I feel unsure enugh still that I'd really want some feedback from the more experienced packagers | 11:41 |
| apw | juliank, i suspect they are either ubuntu0.16.04.1 or ~16.04.1, but as long as they are consistent between releases so they sort right it doesn't matter much | 11:41 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: I agree it's problematic, but I also think it's inevitable for complicated applications. libmysqlclient is an example - it may be that two different libraries need that for certain apps. If symbols are versioned, it should work correctly I think. The problem might come if the library breaks ABI only. | 11:41 |
| rbasak | (breaks ABI without declaring it, that is) | 11:41 |
| rbasak | Or, if the application wants to pass handles or data across different ABI versions of the same library. Then I'm not sure how to declare that relationship in dependencies in a clean way. | 11:42 |
| juliank | apw: Right. It just felt kind of wrong without "ubuntu" in there IMO (that would be 1.60-3~16.04.1) | 11:42 |
| juliank | pbuilder has 0.227~ubuntu16.04.1 similar to my ndiswrapper upload, I think that looks nicer | 11:43 |
| apw | juliank, then that is good enough | 11:43 |
| juliank | apw: I accidentally have "(LP: ##1625089)" [two #] in the changelog, but the entry below it has the correct one, so the bug tracking works fine... :) | 11:46 |
| apw | heh, it is one of those days isn't it | 11:46 |
| juliank | apw: I love how you are talking to yourself in the semi-automated "please test" message :D | 12:01 |
| apw | juliank, heh .. lovely isn't it | 12:02 |
| apw | once the publisher gets caught up i'll wack that one and get the test rerun | 12:02 |
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| mapreri | juliank: that's proposed for xenial-backports, not xenial-updates though. | 12:37 |
| juliank | mapreri: Ah, well. Both are technically backports, though, one is just tiny enough to SRU it | 12:38 |
| mapreri | (but apparently in ubuntu the same versioning is used for all pockets) | 12:38 |
| juliank | mapreri: Well, there's no clear rule on that anyway, except for the security rules. | 12:39 |
| juliank | And these don't have ~ rules ... | 12:39 |
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| ogra_ | pitti, oops ... http://planet.ubuntu.com/ | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | i guess you're cached there ... | 12:51 |
| pitti | ogra_: yeah, I got re-hacked after restoring everything, I permanently shut it down now | 12:56 |
| pitti | so planet's cache needs to get purged | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | yeah, no idea who owns planet nowadays | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | or how one would purge it | 12:57 |
| juliank | ogra_: maybe pitti's attacker can help :D | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | lol | 12:57 |
| juliank | pitti: Your blog got hacked twice? | 12:58 |
| juliank | that's incredible. | 12:58 |
| pitti | two days ago already, so three times | 12:58 |
| juliank | I did not know you were such a valuable target :D | 12:58 |
| pitti | daily.2 looks good | 12:58 |
| pitti | hugo looks pretty good, and https://github.com/SchumacherFM/wordpress-to-hugo-exporter seems to do quite an amazing job | 12:59 |
| juliank | probably | 13:00 |
| juliank | I'm thinking of converting my ikiwiki to jekkyl, dropping the host and just hosting my website on github ... | 13:00 |
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| smoser | bdmurray, when you arrive... were you looking at the xenial cloud-init sru ? (you requested SRU info on one of the bugs, i've added it). is there anything you need from me. | 15:30 |
| nacc | rbasak: around? | 17:01 |
| rbasak | nacc: o/ | 17:10 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer, nacc or maybe caribou: I'd appreciate a review of my squid3 merge please. https://code.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+git/squid3/+merge/316496 | 19:46 |
| rbasak | I'll upload it in a week if nobody has had time to review by then. | 19:47 |
| rbasak | Review workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging/GitWorkflow#Reviewing_Merges | 19:49 |
| nacc | rbasak: I will try if I can find the cycles :) | 19:50 |
| sarnold | it's 90% changelog, 90% QRT tests | 19:50 |
| nacc | sarnold: yeah, because a lot of stuff is being dropped in the merge (afaict) | 19:51 |
| rbasak | It's the total diff againt Debian you're seeing in the preview diff. It's a good sign when that's all that's remaining :-) | 19:52 |
| rbasak | https://git.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/squid3/log/ may be more helpful in understanding what the delta actually is. | 19:52 |
| rbasak | And https://git.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/squid3/log?id=logical/3.5.12-1ubuntu8 is what it was before. | 19:53 |
| dobey | who knows anything about lubuntu? | 20:32 |
| wxl | dobey: #lubuntu(-devel) | 20:32 |
| dobey | wxl: well i just need to know if it depends on xdg autostart functionality for starting indicators, or if it uses upstart or systemd instead | 20:33 |
| dobey | and if fossfreedom is around, i need to know the same about budgie | 20:34 |
| wxl | dobey: the indicators are all within lxpanel which is started with autostart | 20:34 |
| dobey | wxl: so indicator-messages and indicator-application are started with autostart? | 20:35 |
| fossfreedom | dobey: same on budgie - budgie-desktop starts the indicator | 20:35 |
| wxl | dobey: yep. | 20:36 |
| dobey | hmm. :-/ | 20:37 |
| dobey | hmm, no, it looks like lxpanel is actually loading .so files for indicators? or am i reading this code wrong? | 20:47 |
| wxl | yepp. that's what i'm saying. the indicators are plugins that are built into lxpanel. | 20:48 |
| wxl | but lxpanel is loaded with autostart, which in turn loads those indicators. | 20:48 |
| dobey | hmm, i wonder why indicator-messages and indicator-sound are seeded in lubuntu | 20:48 |
| wxl | hm. maybe i'm wrong | 20:49 |
| wxl | there's no -messages in a yakkety vm but -sound is there | 20:51 |
| dobey | but indicator-sound doesn't provide libsoundmenu.so | 20:52 |
| wxl | -application is there, too | 20:53 |
| wxl | but not messages | 20:53 |
| wxl | and this coincides with the manifest | 20:53 |
| smoser | bdmurray, i've just uploaded cloud-init_0.7.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2_source.changes | 21:26 |
| smoser | which has a fix on the sru you let in earlier today. | 21:26 |
| smoser | :-( | 21:26 |
| smoser | would appreciate a quick review and let that into -proposd. | 21:29 |
| bdmurray | smoser: accepted | 21:32 |
| smoser | thanks | 21:32 |
| wxl | dobey: libsoundmenu.so is provided by indicator-sound-gtk2 which lubuntu does have | 21:32 |
| dobey | wxl: yeah, i see that now, but i don't understand why that depends on indicator-sound | 21:33 |
| dobey | i also don't see any evidence that budgie is using ubuntu indicators at all | 21:33 |
| smoser | bdmurray, can you reject the upload to yakkety-proposed | 21:34 |
| smoser | for cloud-init. | 21:34 |
| smoser | and i am uploading it again right now. | 21:34 |
| wxl | dobey: well, i can't speak as to why indicator-sound-gtk2 depends on indicator-sound, if that's what you mean | 21:35 |
| dobey | wxl: sure. was just pointing out what i discovered. i'm in this rabbit hole because i'm making changes to indicator-sound that could potentially break some of the other flavors, so trying to make sure i don't | 21:36 |
| wxl | dobey: speaking for lubuntu, i appreciate your consideration :) | 21:36 |
| Unit193 | infinity: Howdy. Is there something I can follow to track the progress of geoip-database getting an "automatic" backport? Also, you seem to be the dpkg guy. Know if that's getting merged for zesty, or is that held up on LP .buildinfo support? | 22:08 |
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| fossfreedom | dobey: in the case of Ubuntu Budgie - we do not make any use of any of the indicator-* packages. So no impact on our side if you make changes to indicator-sound | 22:46 |
| fossfreedom | cjwatson: just wondering if our (Ubuntu Budgie) merge request is nearing the top of your todo list? TIA https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-cd/+bug/1659278 | 22:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1659278 in debian-cd (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Budgie does not boot directly to ubiquity try/install screen" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:52 |
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| wxl | cyphermox: caribou: if i understand this whole patch pilot thing correctly, you guys are on call to help with sponsorship, no? i've been trying for almost a week now to get my konversation in yakkety sponsored so i can pursue an sru https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/1635911 | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1635911 in konversation (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Konversation crashes on quit - please package latest version" [High,Triaged] | 23:47 |
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