akxwi-dave | morning | 10:09 |
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flocculant | davmor2: are you the oem whizzkid? if so - do you test oem and encryption? | 12:25 |
davmor2 | flocculant: no due to the fact that an oem would have to set an encryption key password which would null and void the whole point of the encryption :) | 12:26 |
davmor2 | flocculant: oem is a mode that is used as stand alone, you can test with encryption it's just not the typical way it would ship | 12:26 |
flocculant | that was what I thought - just checking :) | 12:27 |
* flocculant toddles of out again | 12:27 | |
flocculant | knome: when you've got 30 minutes ish :) | 17:10 |
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flocculant | bluesabre: something occurs to me - 14.04 goes EOL, I assume 3years after release, which is in ~2 months - do we start telling users soon? | 17:49 |
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knome | flocculant, yes? | 19:35 |
knome | :) | 19:35 |
knome | my take on EOL is that we can wait until the EOL date as the core system is supported anyway | 19:36 |
knome | it's not like the world collapses 3 years after the release | 19:36 |
knome | but we should probably start preparing the news etc. | 19:36 |
flocculant | ack on core being supported | 19:38 |
flocculant | so we wait till it's EOL - then tell people at the same time as it being EOL - instead of giving some warning? | 19:38 |
flocculant | that's friendly ;) | 19:39 |
knome | heh | 19:39 |
knome | well, i'll happily hear other opinions | 19:39 |
knome | i just don't know if it's sensible to shout that 14.04 will be EOL very early either | 19:39 |
knome | at least before we have a new thunar SRU on 16.04 | 19:39 |
flocculant | well it's LTS - and it goes EOL in ~2 months | 19:40 |
flocculant | and yea - would be goot to sru thunar for 16.04 absolutely | 19:40 |
flocculant | just got my head in taskmanager for a few minutes for ochosi | 19:41 |
knome | part of my rationale is that we don't support releases for 3 years because we don't have the manpower to do more | 19:42 |
knome | but in case we don't feel like the next LTS is quite ready (which is unforunate), we still *can* as the core is supported to | 19:42 |
knome | it would be different IMO if the ubuntu core was also only supported for 3 years | 19:42 |
knome | then we would definitely want to make sure people upgrade soon | 19:43 |
flocculant | ochosi: so played about with columns add yea as you saw - all over the place http://paste.ubuntu.com/23942957/ | 19:48 |
flocculant | knome: yea I would agree with that sentiment | 19:48 |
knome | so maybe schedule an article a few weeks before the EOL date and another one on EOL, or sth | 19:48 |
flocculant | 4 would be the week prior to beta 1 freeze | 19:49 |
flocculant | final beta | 19:50 |
knome | so we don't want 3 weeks at least | 19:50 |
flocculant | nearly had kittens then - cos that's next week :D | 19:50 |
flocculant | 3 weeks would be final beta week | 19:51 |
flocculant | but yea - some time before then again on eol makes sense | 19:51 |
flocculant | anyway - was a passing thought mostly brought on by me remembering the last couple of eol's ' oh - we're eol now - best tell people' | 19:52 |
knome | mhm | 19:52 |
knome | yep | 19:52 |
flocculant | so - and I think we've possibly had this discussion previously ... | 19:53 |
flocculant | anyway to have some sort of freeform text box at http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-qa | 19:53 |
flocculant | bit sort of blueprint whiteboardish | 19:54 |
knome | right'o | 19:54 |
knome | will look at that | 19:54 |
flocculant | knome: reasoning for that is things like the folder/image issue we're seeing in desktop settings | 19:55 |
flocculant | someone mentioned it to me - I looked - asked ochosi where to report it - then it got forgotten by everyone - then Simon mentioned it - then Sean did - but nothing had been written down anywhere | 19:56 |
flocculant | now - seems that we just need somewhere to note qa/dev issues to me until reported 'somewhere' | 19:57 |
knome | yep, that seems all fair and doable | 19:57 |
flocculant | if it's loads of work then qa blueprint whiteboard will suffice | 19:57 |
knome | nah | 19:57 |
flocculant | ok - ta :) | 19:59 |
flocculant | I'd rather it was on the tracker - and on the qa tab - seems best place for it till it's properly reported | 19:59 |
flocculant | ochosi: moving columsn - seems to be no specific pattern to what works and what doesn't | 20:28 |
ochosi | yeah, it's fairly random in my experience too | 20:28 |
flocculant | same with hiding/adding - though at some point task disappears and then comes back | 20:28 |
ochosi | but it's sorta broken i guess | 20:28 |
ochosi | as far as i can tell it's even broken in the current release | 20:29 |
ochosi | restarting the taskmanager fixes the visible columns i think | 20:29 |
flocculant | ochosi: well - I didn't manage to break current | 20:29 |
ochosi | oh | 20:32 |
ochosi | humm | 20:32 |
ochosi | btw, any news from robert on the greeter issue? | 20:32 |
flocculant | ochosi: noticed something else - in current - box for the tick, in git - no box | 20:32 |
ochosi | box for the tick? | 20:32 |
flocculant | ochosi: nope - waiting for him to wake a bit then ping him | 20:32 |
ochosi | i guess i need a screenshot for that | 20:32 |
flocculant | ochosi: where you choose which columns | 20:33 |
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flocculant | http://i.imgur.com/MxPoE67.png is current | 20:34 |
flocculant | http://i.imgur.com/Ph77Svs.png is git | 20:34 |
ochosi | that's just gtk3 (current) vs. gtk2 | 20:40 |
ochosi | you could build git with "./autogen.sh --enable-gtk3" then they would look the same | 20:41 |
flocculant | ochosi: aah ok :) | 20:41 |
flocculant | ochosi bluesabre - reply from robert in -desktop re locking bug | 20:55 |
ochosi | well if he has it on his "to fix" list, i'm happy | 20:56 |
ochosi | i trust him | 20:56 |
* flocculant wonders if a mail to our testers re that and maybe replacing with gnome-screensaver or something in the interim would be an idea | 20:56 | |
flocculant | ochosi: yea :) | 20:56 |
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