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flexiondotorgqengho_ I've just seen your email to John. Nice one! Thanks very much for your help.00:15
qengho_flexiondotorg: my pleasure to help.00:17
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hikikohi06:00
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LaneyHELLO!09:02
willcookeHI!09:02
seb128hey Laney willcooke09:02
Laneyhey seb128, hey willcooke09:04
Laneyhow's it going?09:04
willcookehow's it going seb128, Laney09:04
seb128good! I had tennis lessons yesterday, we played double and look at the strategies that can be used, was nice09:05
seb128you?09:05
willcookesame09:05
didrockshey Laney, willcooke. Re seb12809:05
willcooke;D09:05
willcookemorning dadrocks09:05
Laneyhey dodrocks09:06
didrocks:p09:06
Laneyyeah, good09:06
Laneydid some errands and stuff yesterday then watched Sherlock in the evening09:06
Laneythis series was a bit silly09:06
Laneybut still fun09:06
davmor2Morning all09:07
didrockswhat season/episod?09:09
didrockshey davmor209:09
flexiondotorgMorning Laney didrocks willcooke seb128 hikiko09:09
didrocksmorning flexiondotorg09:09
Laneydidrocks: I think it's series 409:11
Laneywas on a few weeks ago09:11
seb128hey davmor2 flexiondotorg09:14
Laneyhey flexiondotorg, aloha davmor209:16
* Laney is getting told off by IS via automated emails09:16
* Laney trembles09:16
Laneylandscape is timing out though09:22
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seb128Laney, "Landscape and Ksplice Uptrack Check "?09:38
seb128I'm getting some of those as well09:38
Laneyyeah that09:38
Laneywhat do you get it for?09:38
seb128langpacks09:39
Laneydidn't know those were in the cloud :-o09:39
seb128hehe09:39
* didrocks welcomes pitti as Hugo users :)11:59
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* flexiondotorg thinks pitti should've getnikola.com ;-)12:14
Sweet5harkjbicha: congrats to your LibreOffice contribution. Welcome onboard! :)12:29
didrocksflexiondotorg: well, you need to install a python stack though12:31
flexiondotorgsnap install nikola12:31
didrockshugo upstream is really reactive, just sent some PR and it was already merged :)12:32
jbichaSweet5hark: my 2nd LO commit was accepted in 5 min which seems crazy fast to me https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/33973/12:40
Sweet5harkjbicha: we should be very quick with non code changes. The risk that they bring instability or regressions is low. keep them coming ;)12:43
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pittididrocks: oh, you are using that too?13:05
Laneyjust got a £15 eurostar voucher for the delays ...13:08
didrockspitti: yeah! Moved to it over the christmas holidays (https://didrocks.fr/), I wanted to blog as well about it. Using caddy for serving those static files and handling let's encrypt certificate. Result: I just git push to https://github.com/didrocks/website, and then, a webhook rebuild the website!13:11
pittididrocks: hah, neat!13:12
didrockspitti: I wasn't using wordpress though but dotclear. So needed to write my own importer. Took me a little bit more time than you I guess :)13:13
pittididrocks: you have an extra + in your googleplus property, drop it (https://plus.google.com/++DidierRoche doesn't exist)13:13
* desrt randomly hugs pitti13:14
didrockspitti: oh, correct, thanks for noticing!13:14
* pitti hugs desrt back -- how was your Leuven pub crawl?13:15
desrtwasn't much of a pub crawl in the end, in fact... leuven was pretty dead on a sunday night, so we went back to sanne's house and cooked and hung out there13:15
desrtbut was very nice, thanks :)13:15
desrtwas your trip home sufficiently uneventful?13:16
pittiyeah, it was, all worked impeccably13:16
desrt♥ ICE13:16
pittiwas nice to go with tdaitx13:16
desrtis that michael's nick?13:17
pittizipping through the night with 300 km/h :)13:17
desrtoh wait.  that was the other guy you went with by train, ya?13:17
pittidesrt: no, Tiago's13:17
desrtright13:17
pittidesrt: he's in the foundations team :)13:17
desrti'm bad with newbies13:17
Laneynewbie is > 2008, right?13:17
desrtya.  pretty much.13:18
pitti(> 1.5a, just saying)13:18
desrtemployee_number > 10013:18
desrtback in köln, life returns to normal13:19
desrteverything feels very good13:19
GunnarHjseb128: Hi Sebastien, reminding you of two pending items: 1. Language pack update xenial, and 2. bug #1655782. A new delta language pack seems to have been created last Sunday.14:13
ubot5bug 1655782 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) "Elfdalian layout + merge with Debian 2.19-1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165578214:13
hikikoseb128, do you know how to store a git project in bzr?14:26
hikikoshould I use the bzr-git tool14:26
hikikothat is in the repos?14:26
seb128GunnarHj, hey, right, still on my list!14:32
seb128hikiko, why do you want to do that?14:32
hikikoseb128, chromium uses git by default14:32
seb128hikiko, why do you want to put it in bzr?14:33
hikikoand it seems to work :D14:33
hikikowith bzr-git installed you just run bzr commands14:33
hikikoseb128, it has 1million files14:33
seb128well, whatever works for you, but would be better to work with git if that's what they use no?14:34
hikikoyes14:34
hikikobut I have to push it to bzr14:34
hikikoto lp sorry14:34
seb128lp does git14:34
seb128hikiko, https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git14:34
hikikoso git push lp:~ ...14:34
seb128hikiko, read ^14:35
hikikocool :)14:35
hikikoyeah14:35
hikikothanks seb12814:35
seb128yw!14:35
qengho_hikiko: It would be nice if git had a humane UI.14:38
GunnarHjseb128: The plan is to call for testing on Thursday via a message like this:14:42
GunnarHjhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2016-October/007251.html14:42
GunnarHjWill you be able to get them in -proposed by then?14:42
GunnarHjIt would be good to get this done before translations are opened for zesty, since the latter will make the translators busy.14:42
seb128GunnarHj, I'm going to try yes ... did you get a response from wgrant about zesty opening?14:46
GunnarHjseb128: Nope.14:46
seb128:-(14:46
seb128try email maybe?14:46
GunnarHjseb128: Ok.14:46
seb128thanks14:46
Trevinhohey guys...15:00
Trevinhomitya57: hi, would you mind to check https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1600136/comments/14 ?15:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1600136 in snapd (Ubuntu) "App indicator does not show icon for Qt apps or with custom icons" [High,In progress]15:00
Laneyafternoon Trevinho ...15:27
willcookeit's that time again15:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-02-0715:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Feb  7 15:30:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:30
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willcookeLots of people out today15:30
willcookeRoll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt,  dgadomski(out), fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron (hols), hikiko, laney, qengho (out), seb128, sweet5hark (out), themuso (out), tkamppeter (hols), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)15:30
hikikohi15:30
seb128hey Trevinho!15:30
seb128_o/15:30
flexiondotorgo/15:30
qengho_Hey! I'm here.15:31
Trevinhoo/15:31
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Trevinho(hi seb128)15:31
Trevinho(and Laney )15:31
Trevinho(and others...)15:31
desrtword.15:31
willcookelet's start15:33
willcooke#topic andyrock15:33
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willcooke# worked on u8 branches after review15:33
willcooke# some reviews15:33
willcooke#topic attente15:33
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attentehey15:33
attenteset up a ppa for general gtk-mir testing: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/gtk-mir15:33
attentebest to test with miral-shell instead of u8. there are some weird scaling issues with u8 (doesn't render windows if the width or height are greater than 480 o.O)15:33
attente(eof)15:34
willcookenice one, thanks attente15:34
willcooke#topic desrt15:34
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desrthai15:34
desrthad a couple of part days due to travel, but still a pretty good week15:34
desrtlots of good conversations at fosdem, and reviewed a bunch of patches (in-person nagging is very effective)15:34
desrtwork continues on the proxy.  it's shaping up pretty nicely, and i expect it to be usableish by next meeting15:35
desrtapparmor patches still outstanding :/15:35
* willcooke makes a note to chase again15:35
desrtbasically, aiming for gnome freezes here15:35
desrteof15:35
attentefeature freeze in a little over a week too...15:36
willcookethanks desrt15:36
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:36
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willcooke* working on bug #1598183 (testing patches suggested in upstream bug)15:36
willcooke* trying to reproduce bug #164658515:36
willcooke* researching for bug #165469615:36
ubot5bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159818315:36
ubot5bug 1646585 in Nvidia "oem-config replaces /etc/resolv.conf symlink with a hard file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164658515:36
ubot5bug 1654696 in Nvidia "Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop ubiquity documentation is lacking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165469615:36
willcooke#topic FJKong15:36
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FJKonghi15:36
FJKongcould you give me 1 min to prepare the update?15:37
willcookeFJKong, sure15:37
FJKongthx15:37
willcooke#topic flexiondotorg15:37
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flexiondotorgTime appropriate greetings!15:37
flexiondotorg- Providing snap assistance to about a dozen ISVs and upstream projects currently.15:37
flexiondotorg- Drinking our own champagne. If there is a snap I've apt purged the debs and installed the snaps.15:37
flexiondotorg- Spotify snap tested by Spotify. Had feedback from Spotify, more improvements in progress and close to upstreaming. Meeting with them on Thursday.15:37
flexiondotorg- Assisting the Raspberry Pi Foundation with adding AppArmor to their kernel.15:37
flexiondotorg- Introduced Chad to John Cox from the Raspberry Pi Foundation regarding Chromium patches.15:37
flexiondotorg- Tested snaps, in particular classic snaps, on Ubuntu 14.04 (broken, but being fixed) and Debian 9 (working). snapd in Debian has had reexec reinstated recently.15:37
flexiondotorg- Helping some upstream Electron apps get snapping using pure Snapcraft and electron-builder. This is preparation ahead of more focused out reach to a number of high profile Electron projects.15:38
flexiondotorg🎬15:38
willcookethanks flexiondotorg15:38
hikiko+nice ascii15:38
flexiondotorgsnap install emoj ;-)15:38
willcookeflexiondotorg, hikiko is working on the Mir b/e for Cr.  That will help / be of interest to Electron apps too soon.15:39
willcooke(plus andyrock is going to be helping on that too)15:39
willcooke#topic hikiko15:39
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hikikohi15:39
hikikochromium: learning how gn and ninja work - i am now able to get compile errors15:39
hikikofrom an almost empty "mir platform" under ozone (chromium doesn't use makefiles),15:39
hikikogot a look at mirclient code and mir basics, mir/miral servers etc15:39
hikikolowgfx: fixed compiz (old lowgfx parts), some errors, about to do the review's fixes in ucc15:39
hikikoeof :)15:40
hikikosorry15:40
willcookethanks hikiko15:40
willcooke:)15:40
willcooke#topic Laney15:40
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Laneyah crap, finding an emoji, one sec15:41
LaneyOK!15:41
Laney• Went to FOSDEM - travelled & had a swap day15:41
Laney∘ pink killer15:41
Laney• Verified gst 1.8.3 for xenial. It got released, but turns out there's a problem in -libav. Was only in proposed for like 3 months. Debugged that and filed an upstream bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778283 to see how they want it to be fixed.15:41
willcookelol15:41
ubot5Gnome bug 778283 in gst-libav "gst-libav 1.8.3 loses encoders/decoders vs 1.8.2 when built with system ffmpeg 2.8.10" [Normal,New]15:41
desrt...the important things in life15:41
Laney• asgen15:41
Laney∘ worked on & pushed an efficiency improvement around base suites & stable releases15:41
Laney∘ backported appstream to x/y15:41
Laney∘ updated asgen in staging, tested the above fix, updated in production15:41
Laney∘ as a bonus it should have fixed some other packages (e.g. wine works now)15:41
Laney• autopkgtest15:41
desrt+1 on pink killer15:41
Laney∘ made it so that autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud and autopkgtest-virt-qemu can be used fully offline if you have a local archive mirror and a cloud image to hand (means you can run tests on the train for the next item)15:41
Laney∘ worked on kernel oops detection in qemu runner during fosdem train - partially works, needs a bit more effort15:41
Laney∘ issue with cp OOMing(!) on s390x when testing some packages, turned out to be hitting the limit on the lxc cgroup, which we were configuring to be 1800M. Raised that a bit15:41
Laney🍶15:41
willcooke:D15:42
willcookethanks a lot Laney15:42
willcookeqengho, are you really here?15:42
qenghoYep.15:42
willcooke#topic qengho15:42
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qenghoI can't do UTC to here math. :(15:42
qengho* in-progress: Debugging assertion failure in latest Chromium. It's a week old now. :( Must fix soon.15:42
qengho* in-progress: Upstreaming Cr patches from RPi dev.15:42
qengho* done: Updated browser test-snap.15:42
qengho* done: Some licensing research for legal team.15:42
qenghoAlso, helping tor get their bug fixes in X.15:43
qenghoeof15:43
willcookethanks qengho!15:43
willcooke#topic seb12815:43
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seb128Laney, would be good if we had some sort of autopkgtest or such on -av to make sure we don't regress, I've to admit I've no clue how to properly test is to verify the SRU for example15:43
seb128oh15:43
seb128• removed old-unmainted unity scopes from zesty15:43
seb128• reviewed/discussed geonames changes proposed by aacid15:43
seb128• went to fosdem was nice to see $people there, some nice discussions/sessions (including Bjoern's and p_itti's)15:43
seb128• started looking at emails from #is about langpack jobs issues15:43
seb128• trying to keep up with snappy world discussions/changes15:43
seb128• usual distro work (launchpads bugs triages, helped people on IRC, ...)15:43
seb128</week>15:43
willcookethanks seb12815:44
willcooke#topic Sweet5hark15:44
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willcooke- Thursday, Tuesday: travel15:44
willcooke- Friday: TDF BoD all-day meeting15:44
willcooke- Saturday, Sunday: FOSDEM15:44
willcooke- Monday, Tuesday: LibreOffice Hackfest https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM201715:44
willcooke- LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 snap update15:44
willcooke- found various snap launchpad/store upload issues, workarounds15:44
willcooke- LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 to prereleases ppa15:44
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:44
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willcooke* Contined looking into possible patches to backport from pulseaudio upstream for Xenial. Still testing and trying to determine how much can be backported without possibly breaking too much or changing too much of pulseaudio itself, if any. Was going to send a patch list to Konrad, but I haven't yet got a patch list finalized yet.15:44
willcooke* Trying to chase down a race condition at unity 7 desktop load in zesty. Sometimes the unity panel is accessible, sometimes not. For whatever reason, unity-panel-service often starts before at-spi and doesn't end up registerring its presence in the registry daemon.15:44
willcooke* Started looking into possibly getting espeak dropped from main if that hasn't happened automatically already, now that brltty and speech-dispatcher dont explicitly pull in espeak, and use espeak-ng instead.15:44
willcooke#topic Trevinho15:45
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Trevinho · Some updates to various snapcraft PRs (tests, refactoring)15:45
Trevinho · Updated Qt patches15:45
Trevinho · Prepared packages update to backport qt patches to ubuntu15:45
Trevinho· attended FOSDEM15:46
Trevinho · Remmina upstream work for snapcraft push through travis15:46
TrevinhoEOF15:46
willcookethanks Trevinho15:46
willcooke#topic robert_ancell15:46
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willcooke- Landed snap:// support upstream in gnome-software15:47
willcooke- New features for snapd-glib15:47
willcooke- Small snapd fixes and documentation improvements15:47
willcooke#topic FJKong15:47
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FJKongback15:47
FJKonglearn about merge:15:47
FJKong1 pygtk #1662101 finish and waiting for upload15:47
FJKong2 subversion still in progressing15:47
FJKongjust back from holiday15:47
FJKongnot too much to update here15:47
FJKongeof15:47
willcookethanks FJKong15:47
willcooke#topic AOB15:47
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willcookeAnyone got any other news they want to share?15:48
LaneyFJKong: no diff on there15:48
FJKongLaney: pygtk?15:48
Laneyyes15:49
willcookeIf no one has anything, let's close the meeting and Laney and FJKong can continue15:50
willcooke#endmeeting15:50
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Feb  7 15:50:15 2017 UTC.15:50
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-02-07-15.30.moin.txt15:50
willcookethanks all15:50
seb128thanks!15:50
Laneycheers15:50
willcookeHealth note:  *finally* think I've got rid of this cough / cold / blargh \o/15:50
Trevinhogood15:50
Laneyseb128: testing> yes, but it's hard to think about how it could look in autopkgtest15:51
jbichaLaney: thanks for fixing up asgen15:51
Laneymhm15:51
FJKongLaney: I want to upload to lp, what format of url should i use?15:52
LaneyFJKong: make a debdiff and attach that15:52
Laneydebdiff debian_package.dsc your_new_package.dsc15:52
seb128Laney, yeah, I'm not sure either, maybe rather a build time thing that check the options enabled in the config.h (or whatever the buildsystem provides)?15:52
FJKonglet m try15:53
jbichais it possible to do an appstream update for xenial itself (not just xenial-updates, -security)? for instance unknown-horizons should show up in appstream now that some .xpm icons are allowed15:53
Laneyno15:53
Laneyhttps://github.com/ximion/appstream-generator/issues/2915:53
jbichaso I need to do a no-change rebuild in xenial-updates for any packages like that?15:53
Laneycurrently you need to upload the thing again15:54
desrti don't know if i mentioned it, but gtk hackfest is coming up in london in march 20-2215:54
desrtmakes sense for at least attente to go to that, and maybe laney based on proximity15:55
Laneyan alternative to what I said there would be to make a package containing the appstream15:55
desrt(sorry for missing AOB)15:55
Laneyprobably still would need some work to generate that15:55
LaneyI think fedora does it like that, maybe?15:56
Laneydesrt: if it's the same room as the gnome-software hackfest (think it is) then it's pretty small15:57
Laneyso my presence might be irritating15:57
desrtthe venue has not yet been fully-determined15:58
attentethe page says it's limited to 12 people16:00
seb128desrt, is there an agenda for the hackfest?16:00
attenteseb128: https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/GTK201716:00
seb128attente, thanks16:00
desrtin particular, attente being there to bring the mir backend up to speed on GSK (and find out what is even required for that) would be very useful16:01
seb128yeah16:01
seb128the agenda seems GSK work only though16:02
seb128well, not my business to say if Laney is interested in that16:02
desrtthat's just the points that people have added so far16:02
desrtas always, what is discussed is what is discussed16:02
desrtbut ya... gsk will be a big issue there, clearly16:02
desrti'm thinking about paying my own ticket to pop over and crash on a couch for a night or two16:03
seb128willcooke, ^ in any case one for you I guess, sending at least attente would make sense in context of GTK4/mir16:05
willcooke+116:05
jbichawhy is unity8 installing a bunch of -dev packages on zesty now?16:45
Laneyjbicha: try to install unity8 a-dev-package- and then drill down16:47
tyhickswillcooke, desrt, attente: hey - the apparmor userspace patches are still on track and jjohansen should get them out this week16:53
willcookewoot - thanks tyhicks16:53
desrttyhicks: how about the kernelside?16:53
attenteawesome16:53
desrtie: not returning "/" for the list16:53
attentethat's user space16:53
attentekernel side patch was already committed16:53
desrtah.  cool.16:53
tyhickswillcooke, desrt, attente: the apparmor kernel patches have already landed in zesty, yakkety, xenial, and are queued up for the 4.11 kernel merge window16:53
desrti thought the issue was that the kernel didn't let us list out the dfa conents16:53
desrt*contents16:54
tyhicksjjohansen: can you comment? ^16:54
jjohansenoh you can get the contents of the dfa, but that is not what you want16:54
desrtokay.  i believe you :)16:54
desrtlooking forward to the userspace stuff16:55
tyhicksdesrt: what's still not there is the kernel -> userspace notification system but jj is going to continue working on that after the userspace stuff is finished16:55
jjohansenso first there are two parts.16:55
jjohansenpart 1: key value store, that has landed in the kernel16:55
jjohansenpart 2: is the update notification system, that has not though the goal is to land it this week16:55
tyhicksdesrt: as we discussed, it's not the end of the world if the notifications aren't available immediately16:55
jjohansenuserspace side, you will get an api to get a list out of the kernel, I should have those up later today/tomorrow16:56
jjohansenand you can start using them16:56
jjohansenthe update notification side of things again later in the week16:56
tyhicksthanks jjohansen!16:57
jjohansenright, I will say notifications by eow is the goal but if needed it may take a little longer and we will deal with it16:57
desrtfwiw, there is nothing in the architecture on my side to deal with notifications, so that's something that i'd have to add here anyway16:59
desrti don't expect that to make it by feature freeze16:59
tyhicksI don't expect the notification system to make feature freeze, either17:02
tyhicksmaybe it is something we can request an exception for17:03
tyhickswe'll decided based on schedules and complexity17:03
seb128https://github.com/Microsoft/gvfs17:31
Laneybahaha17:32
seb128nice namespace conflict ;-)17:32
seb128https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudioalm/2017/02/03/announcing-gvfs-git-virtual-file-system/17:32
chrisccoulsonseb128, lol17:45
chrisccoulsonI'm familiar with name conflicts - we frequently have people pop in to #oxide, asking about http://oxidemod.org/ ;)17:45
seb128:-)17:45
flexiondotorgdavmor2 That audio player you tested. It was missing from the Sound Indicator. Fixed it, will publish soon.18:01
Laneynight!18:03
davmor2flexiondotorg: oh nice18:33
willcookeright, dinner time.  Night all18:38
mitya57Trevinho, re bug #1600136, your debdiff LGTM, but it's more for Mirv rather than me, because he can test on touch devices.20:14
ubot5bug 1600136 in snapd (Ubuntu) "App indicator does not show icon for Qt apps or with custom icons" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160013620:14
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